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>>32356021
24 year old virgin self improooving to REVOLTMAXX

>>32356260
Idgaf about the "revolt" or "incels". I just wanna get laid.

>>32356260
That's not happening lol. If neither The Trump Supporters nor March on Wall Street (people who actually exist in the real world and have applicable skills) couldn't do it then neither can you tbqh.

>>32356301
You represent 90%+ of said demographic then. More a reflection of male loneliness than a genuine usable political force.

>>32356323
Not really. Incels don't exist, virgins do.

>>32356322
Lol ok. Dreamthester is still retarded btw. Should have known I'd get this on the incel thread. I can't relate ofc but i have my own issues. I'm not saying you're less of a person for that. I think not getting laid at all by 30 would probably be reflective of other issues aswell though yeah. I think that's why so many jincels are ironically jacked as fuck and not at all how they describe themselves. Paranoid Schizophrenia will turn anybody into a "gymcel" if it's strong enough. The reason you're not getting laid is ironically also why you're working out all the time. Constant state of danger etc.

>>32356327
Probably? Idk dude I'm still going off my high-school sociology classes lol. I think the "truecels" are outnumbered by "gymcels" (90%+ of which are undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenics eith the not having sex thing not actually being the root issue and women being less disgusted and more afraid probably) yes.

>>32356334
Again, incels don't exist. Just say virgins. Incel implies hard determinism/no free will which is absurd. It is like saying you are inpoor or infat. I know that it is in my power to get laid, I am just asking what to do with the build up sexual/emotional frustration I have build up these last 10+ years. Incels just have a victim mindset and blame outside circumstances. I don't

>>32356327
My guess is that it was likely weird nerdy guys in tech support who genuinely couldn't get laid initially after gamergate and then the schizophrenics and people with personality disorders who probably look fine but don't have a real grasp on what's happening to them found out about it and that's when all the "gymcels" appeared,because a man who is a paranoid schizophrenic or severely emotionally unstable is morelikely to take an interest in fitness etc and most of them genuinely aren't able to process what the actual problem is.

>>32356021
I started a small business selling mushrooms for food. I have started talking to lots of girls through that who think the mushroom thing is cool but I'm still very lonely and anxious when trying to connect with people.

>>32356352
That's fair enough bro. I didn't mean to come at you. I'm just saying that basically I think what you're running into is people with less tangible problems maybe who can't process them. Like "my girlfriend left me for reasons I don't understand so my life problems are because I'm an incel",I had a friend who was a methhesd and went directly from quoting third wave feminism to talking about Jordan Peterson and telling me he was a sigma male which partially informs this. I canno5 imagine he's alone in this. He had had girlfriends/relationships before etc and if he hadn't had sex it was likely not because he was an incel but because of (like I said) mental instability/emotional instability and drug abuse. I don't doubt women weren't trying to sleep eith him AT THAT POINT but fuck was that not the cause of his issues.

>>32356357
Idc about fitness too much desu. Im a dyel and people think I look swole lol, I have a good face too I just like to do my own things

>>32356378
Oh that's fair enough bro. I'm not saying "YOU'RE LE HECKIN INCEL" thiuvh,I get where you're coming from. Everybody has problems and things they feel like they missed out on. That said you seen to have less issues than like I said a lot if the people who chose to blame their entire lives on that.

>>32356359
Nice. I like champignons (on my meat/pizza). Do you sell those?
>I'm still very lonely and anxious when trying to connect with people
Do you have male friends?

>>32356352
>It is like saying you are inpoor or infat
not really? inpoor is 100% real. if you have what Stephen hawking had and you're not genius irreplaceable you're going to be poor and have a bad life. you won't be hired for shit.

>>32356390
Thanks. Guess Ill be alright since I am mentally stable and dont do meth lol

>>32356399
No one is forcefully stopping you from getting rich. But this isn't an incel thread so either give me advice or fuck off

>>32356378
Like I said you seem reasonable and well adjusted. You're not going to go attack an abortion clinic or whatever the fuck. You don't identify with it because the people who do are visibly insane and oftentimes disturbing on a level where if they unironically were getting laid society would have failed. You're morelike "aw man that sucks" and then moving on with your day. You not wanting to identify as an incel given what they do in practice is reasonable. No need to justify that.

>>32356404
This guy I'm prettysure had been laid before too. Nobody joins a terrorist cel because they weren't getting enough pussy. Most "Incels" probably have something way way worse going on than just a failure to connect with women.

>>32356395
I sell mostly Oyster Mushrooms and Lion's Mane. shiitake,pioppino, and maitake too.

I recently broke up with my best friend since 4th grade because of lots of drama including defending another friend finding out about a woman at a store I was attracted to and telling her I was a virgin. It's really insane and cost me most my friend group but all those guys were honestly pretty bad for me.
I've got one friend from work who is a nice helpful guy but surprisingly stupid and makes gross jokes about banging my mom, and my mom met him and said he was being weird and flirty, so I'm trying to distance myself.
The mushroom thing has gotten me a whole ton of aquaintences who I sometimes do stuff like hunt for mushrooms or trade compost for weed but most are dad's and can't hang out.

I was running a pirate FM radio station playing techno and met a guy who him and his friends all listened and invited me to go to a music festival but I haven't been able to hang out with them since.

The only friend who remembered my birthday is this girl who has a boyfriend that I have a lot in common with but she has severe depression and is super flaky.

I have so many hobbies and interests, I'm ambitious, have a well paying day job, own a home, cook, run 5k's, and I make people laugh but I can't keep friends.
Every morning I wake up and am having an anxiety attack for no reason.

>>32356404
Luke there's guys way worse off than that who call themselves incels too. That's why half the incel discussions are "well i got laid when I was younger but....the voices are torturing me and they sound like women....okay!?!?@?" than anything real. Someone brought this retarded bullshit up to you and you vetoed it because 6ou trakize advocating for more school shootings won't get you laid or get you the respect of your peers and that half of these guys would still be ticking Tim bombs regardless. If I wanted to be a dick I could harp on you not getting laid but you're right that you're not an "Incel",and that these issues even if they make you sad are not life and death nor do we need sherry law or government mandated gf or whatever the fuck. They totally exist though. There actual issues just seem to be mental health or substance abuse related in my experience. You're just not wanting to associate with people who are both morally dubious and insane beyond all belief which yk good for you. There's probably a big invisible gap there though.

>>32356021
Cope with what?
It's not a big deal.

In your 30s you should have money to quit your job and come back to university again which means you are very close to losing virginity, partying, hooking up, dating etc. all the fun shit in life.
>>32356260
revolts are impossible in capitalist society
even your improooving is not to revolt but to empower capitalists to let them exploit you better, you spend more money on improvement, you will live longer giving them more money from your labor and consomerism
>>32356352
you're wrong
incels exist because everyone who wants to have consensual sex but doesnt is an incel, thats what the word stands for. its like saying there are no poor or fat because some arent. some people are forced to be incels for a few years before they have a chance to change it just like no one can go from fat to slim overnight. if you are fat you're gonna stay fat until you lose weight, for months or years even. same with incels, you are forced to stay celibate until you are back in school and get to speak to women again. Incel is a word to describe specific people and you project your own shortcomings on the, They all know what their actual problem is and all of them have the winner mindset and dont blame anything. You are.

>>32356477
So in short I have no male friends who live less than two hours away and meeting a woman I feel safe with and can flirt with feels impossible.
I've had hoes hit on me before but the thought of a hook up makes me have a panic attack.

>>32356536
That's not going to happen in university in your 30s,Schooler. You're giving advice that has literally never worked.

>>32356545
Yes it will, that's the whole point of universities. My advice is the only thing that can work.

>>32356557
It will not for the type of men you are talking too. I get that unmitigated cocains addiction and autism aren't exactly the same thing so it probably worked for you,but that's not the issues we're realistically addressing. (No I do not believe you are not a hard drug addict.)

>>32356477
>>32356539
You sound like a chill dude desu
>thought of a hook up makes me have a panic attack.
It is totally normal to be nervous for a date. You probably "overreact" because you have little experience with women

The biggest predictor of a male ending up a loser like this is no strong father figure in the home to teach their son how to be a man.

The biggest contributing force is the inevitably resulting devouring mother who fills the void of a father figure and creates a mess through her own dysfunctional nerosis.

The only way to fix the problem is to unwrap the mother, forgive her and seek out strong male role models to complete development into a man. But choose wisely, if you choose the wrong role models you'll end up an insecure weasel desperate for validation like little andy tate.

>>32356580
I feel ok on dates, I'm just talking about an attractive woman touching and pulling on me after I just met her.

I don't want to have sex unless I know she really likes me. The thought of being intimate with a stranger is too painful.

>>32356568
yes it will. you do not adress fundamental issue that virgins face which is no option to speak to women outside of schools except for mutuals who set you up with them.
>>32356585
>seek out strong male role models
This is shit that's exclusivly said by faggot self improvement grifters on twitter.
Real men dont need other men telling them how to wipe their ass, they just know it automatically.
IN fact majority of these male role models are what CAUSES incels and keeps men virgins because as soon as men have sex, they wont need these models so they tell them shit that doesnt work so that they can keep grifting them. You are just a sucker who fell for some scam and now want others into your pyramid scheme.

I'm getting there, 28 here.
I take comfort in knowing that I've had three different situations in my life where I could have gotten laid, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

>first one: during high school, a girl said she liked me. i ignored her because... despite being above average looking, im a high level sperg. a few months later, she pulled me into the school's girls' bathroom during a time where the school was pretty much empty. i just told her i was not interested and left. that was 10 years ago and she hates me to this day. she has told people i have a small dick and came instantly despite me never even touching her. i dont care to be honest.

>second one: in university, a girl i knew texted me "wanna come over? im alone rn". i said no thanks, i'm busy. she doubled down and said "really? i had made some lemon cake just for us" and I, being the absolute autismomaxxd retard that I am, replied with "thanks but I dont like lemon cake". we literally have not talked since.

>third one: girl i know from a game who lives really far away from me. i was actually going to get with her, we had arranged the whole meet up, planned everything. however a week before i was gonna take the plane to go there a person from my family became sick and i couldn't leave so i had to cancel everything. she had told me all the things she wanted me to do to her and said she'd do anal, she's kind of a freak.

I obviously want to have sex and I think about it constantly, but it doesn't hurt me as much because I know for a fact that it isn't something impossible for me.
I still talk to that third girl, we're an on and off thing. Really think it's gonna finally happen with her but who knows, I'm not holding my breath. We haven't arranged anything but, knowing both of our schedules, it's probably happening in april/may next year. We're gonna make it, bros.

>>32356605
I see. Good luck to you

>>32356619
Good luck to you

I'm 36
I'm getting some shit fixed out. A reason why I rejected the few chances I had in my 20s is purely physical and needed expensive surgery. It's late, but I'm getting that fixed right now, if only so that at least I'm in good health.
I don't, I really can't cope with it. I do feel the need for someone in my life. I do feel like I am deserving of some love at least.

>>32356021

Consultations bro, help me help you
Eight countries, 50+ bodies, and recently engaged
Most in the street that I've seen have what it takes, they just don't have the proper packaging to attract who they want. Just need some fine tuning and fashion help

@btcsavagex

>>32356817
>grifting on /adv/
You are even worse

>>32356585
>The biggest predictor of a male ending up a loser like this is no strong father figure in the home to teach their son how to be a man.

I grew up with a single dad which also makes you turn out crazy and fucked up, you just see it less often

>>32356021
I'm 34, have a 75+ body count and, honestly, I wish I was a virgin. Chasing women and navigating all of the chaos that comes with it has genuinely been a net negative on my life. I've spent months to years completely head fucked over some girl that in the end never gave a shit about me. I almost feel like its heroin - that I've had really high highs but also really low lows and I wish I never would've discovered it. I have consciously chosen not to have sex or interact with women. Its been 2+ years and I've never been happier. Trust me, OP, the grass is not always greener. Looking back at it, my life would've turned out much better if I hadn't met all of the women I wasted time with.

>>32356536
>you spend more money on improvement, you will live longer giving them more money from your labor and consomerism

>he doesn't know how communist revolutions or the militant monarchist uprising of japan had worked in the past.

>>32356619
>she doubled down and said "really? i had made some lemon cake just for us" and I, being the absolute autismomaxxd retard that I am, replied with "thanks but I dont like lemon cake".
rofl

>>32356021
Haven't wanted to have sex once in my life because I grew up being pushed over, both by girls and guys, primarily by girls because I grew up around them and I was attractive. I'd be called cute all the time, but I was too scared to pursue. This made only the predators/narcissists brave enough to insist in pursuing me, as if I was some sort of prize (normal girls understand it's not worth the effort). So being pursued by these types of people just reinforced my misbelief.

This went on all my life. Pursued by the insisting women, only to know they don't really like me because they don't even know me, and if they do get to know me, they'll just move on to the better guy.

I've been like this for 30+ years and most recently had a similar experience. Girl chased me for years, because I'm attractive, funny and financially well off. But the moment my humanity emerged and she perceived it as some sort of slight against her, she quickly ditched me, reminding me of how things are. I hadn't had a close encounter with a girl for 8 years, and when this girl appeared, I thought things might've changed, and now I don't know if it still is me or if it was another narcissist I attracted, once again reminding me to just stay away, there's no benefit. I don't need the emotional connection and what is the point of sex without the emotional connection.

>>32356357
>people with personality disorders who probably look fine but don't have a real grasp on what's happening to them
I'm this type of people. Approached all my life, objectively attractive in a unique way, literally hit on by my doctor last week (a homo), but permanently a virgin. I indeed don't know what is happening to me
Can you elaborate?

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>>32356817
>grifting on a Mongolian underwater basket-weaving forum

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>>32356021
I'm 5'6", not good looking, poorfag and got an average sized dick so no woman will ever want me, however I got tired of being a virgin so for a while I hired escorts in my late 20s but that got very expensive so I don't do it anymore. I'll never be able to just get a woman to like me. I don't really cope, or get mad about it anymore now that I'm in my 30s I guess I'm just rather indifferent about it most days but some days I wish I could get a GF but that isn't possible unless I end up a richfag somehow someday but it won't be love.

im not a virgin but im pretty sure im an undiagnosed schizoid with severe childhood traumas

>>32356021
I am one week away from being 23 years old and I sometimes find it hard to believe I have made it this far in life and yet I haven't done anything with a woman. But I am not actively trying, at all, because I really just do not care to. I feel it'd be a waste of time when I could just watch movies and jerk off instead.

I know I won't be like this when I'm 30. I will surely have lost my virginity by then.

>>32356021
I just do I guess. I remind myself of the small victories and the nuclear options of passport broing and hookers give me comfort even if I don’t use them. I'm not a truecel though I'm just autistic broke and carless

>>32356611

Roflmao. No mate. No one just knows how to be a man, just like no one just knows how to be a woman. That's why we have an epidemic of adult children in society who have no clue how to be adults, and how to be their gender.

This is something the same sex gender parent is supposed to teach both passively through existing, and actively through spending quality time together. But people with single parent families, or absent parent families, don't have those role models. So they have to be sourced externally.

You can cope and cry all you like, but that's reality.

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>>32356260
basado champ. TOTAL SUPREME GENTLEMEN VICTRIX

>>32356021
it's ok to lie flat if you're tired, somewhere out there is a warm hole waiting for you to build a life together

>>32358334
cope and seethe
you just fell for some faggot scam designed to trick faggots
Everyone knows how to be their gender you dysgenic tranny freak
Keep seething and go back to your twitter daddy you fucking autist.

I never understood the shame involved with being a virgin. I’m a 28 year old male virgin.

>>32357416
31 year old virgin here. Girls fucked with my head too I just never got to cum.

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>>32356021
38 year old virgin who's not even been hugged in 15 years. At this point I'm a bit of a recovering shut-in. You get used to it but on a mental level stuff starts breaking down just like your body would when you age and neglect it. A lack of touch and infrequent socialization in real life seems to have effects I didn't expect. One guy here mentions waking up with panic attacks for no reason, very similar to me as of last year. Never been so anxious in my life, then suddenly I'm in the ER and they're suggesting I get on buspirone just before my 38th birthday. Bizarre hormonal imbalances that make you cry like a bitch for a few hours out of nowhere to empty your reservoir of pent-up frustration. Usually it's so you can keep going along like everything is fine, like your mind is naturally trying to shed the despair so you can keep functioning. This happens to me every three to six months or so now.

In terms of productive things I do everything I can. I focused on what I knew I could change, so I lost 150+ lbs in about two years, built up a small freelance career from one of my hobbies, and I learned to drive and got a car. I cook a ton, draw a ton, write, read, watch films by the garbage truck full, lift, boxing, gardening, and collect baseball caps. About all that's holding me back is living with a slowly dying morbidly obese mother with a narcissism streak, but I've learned to ignore her a lot recent years.

I hope anons dealing with this unfortunate lifestyle the best. It's rough, and I'll likely never reverse it enough for a relationship of any kind, but I take solace in maybe making enough money to help close friends and family who did stick with me and helped me keep sane. If I can do that much and fulfill some creative goals, I'll find a way to accept my life's summation once the reaper calls.

>incel revolution
How would that look any different to your average spree killer?

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>>32356021
36 y/o. I just do what I can and take it one week at a time. Accepting the fact that I'll never get married and have children is the hardest part

>>32356021

honestly having sex would probably only make things worse in the end.

>be me
>25 5'6 (170 in non autism) manlet
>been laid with about 6-7 girls throughout my life
>was in a 4 year relationship
>had two opportunities for threesomes (declined in both cases as it would have felt disrespectful to the person i am with)
>do the thing 3-4 times a day and develop a physical need for it

>currently no gf for the past year and a half

>need to do the thing but literally had a falling out with everyone and i cba to make new friends
>que perpetual loop of self-hate because you know you can do something about it as you did before but feels like you completely lost the build guide as to how to do it

To be honest I would rather die than deal with another girl.

>>32356021
I was a 30yr old virgin, then I called a few whores a couple times, now I am a 30yr old loser, still the same, just not virgin. I will just end it all by 40, I am blowing all my money on climbing some of the tallest and most dangerous mountains. Hopefully I freeze to death on Annapurna or something.

>>32356260
based af

>>32356021
Nani mo nakatta

>>32356260
fpbp
>>32356301
>>32356316
>>32356536
seethe n sneed

>>32357416
>Trust me
i don't
you'd never in a million years choose an incel life over a life of getting tons of pussies, never
as for being "head fucked over some girl" that's seems like nothing more than weakness on your part, the fact that you got over it proves it as much
i don't know if you enjoy bragging or just like to bait incels, but this what you wrote is one steaming pile of hot dogshit and you absolutely know it

>>32358272
>I know I won't be like this when I'm 30. I will surely have lost my virginity by then.
31 yo virgin here, had the same situation when i was 23
nothing changed, even after significantly overhauling my lifestyle for the last 3 years (working out, salsa dancing, leaning sax, socializing and many other things)
but i hope that this fate worse than death will not befall you when you rich 4th decade of your life
take care

I am probably supposed to care but I don't at 29. Probably would have helped my depression last year but IDK, so I am just doing what I can everyday to move forward and hopefully still take care of my parents as they age. Maybe even keep the house if I can get a decent job.
>>32359264
I would presume some sort of organization and function, but I suspect the people who would make up it's inhabitants are still happy doing there thing, or too miserable to care.

>>32362322
>nothing changed, even after significantly overhauling my lifestyle for the last 3 years (working out, salsa dancing, leaning sax, socializing and many other things)

But how? Inceldom is a disease caused by lack of socializing, how can you do all that and still get nothing?

>>32362408
You may as well wonder how are there healthy smokers reaching their 80s and young non-smoking people diying from cancer. The answer? Fuck knows.
That's the worst of it. That you know you did everything and still end up failing. Soul-crushing.
Would love nothing more than just to end it all, but i have amazing parents and a sister and for their sake and their sake alone, i bear the yoke of incelhood, because i care about them and dont want to cause them any further suffering

>>32362469
No I mean, how is it actually possible? I'm an incel reaching my 30s and I had a brief period of time where I tried asking girls out a lot, most of them agreed and it was just from one place, I could have been doing so much more. It never went anywhere because I don't have my shit together and I'm not particularly good with women. But still, that was just a few months. You've done more than me, so I'll ask again, how?

>>32362322
Meh, I have very strong confidance that I can lose it, and do not expect to end up like you at all. I'm sure you'll get to 40 and still be a virgin where I will have lost mine in the next year or so.

>>32362524
Paying for a hooker doesn't count nigger

>>32359650

pretty much yeah - my last relationship that ended (the 4yr one) turns out I was being "ungrateful" and "unloving" despite taking her to visit almost our entire country, working 2 jobs to provide enough money for me, her and all her wants not just the needs. Buying her a car, fixing said car and not to mention the disrespect at many many moments all that for mediocre blowjobs that happen once in a blue moon and burnt rice as "meals" (most of the time I did the cooking exactly because of that)

So yeah, honestly would rather have remained a shut out virgin than to actually love someone :)

>>32362408
Because none of them allow for speaking to women. None of them allow actual "socializing" they dont allow for forming of bonds or speaking verbally regularly and for long time with women.

Only school does it. Inceldom is a disease caused by not speaking to women in school and at parties specifically. You can do everything except for coming back to school and you will still be an incel.

I thought I was going to be a 30+ virgin, but after driving to a ghetto having sex with an escort, I lost my virginity at 29... Despite having autism.

>>32362308
>you'd never in a million years choose an incel life over a life of getting tons of pussies, never
An incel life? Never. A MGTOW life? Absolutely.

>as for being "head fucked over some girl" that's seems like nothing more than weakness on your part, the fact that you got over it proves it as much
Well, I mean, how would you know? You've never touched a woman.

Have done it twice with escorts many years ago which helped me realize the actual act is so insignificant, it's un-believable people would actually neck themselves over something so petty. I got a flat tyre once and I remember that event more vividly than the 2 times I've put pole in the hole.

That and I've grown up with the fact that women hate me, have always hated me. Don't even have to say anything, if I so much as make eye contact even accidentally they make a face at me like you would if a homeless person paraded his bubonic diseased scrotum in your face.

There's no coming back from that. Women my age are awful human beings anyway in anything other than a professional interaction.

>>32362528
Technically not so much, because then you'd be discounting one night stands where you overly treat the girl but get sex afterwards. It's either you spend 300 dollars on her or give her 300 dollars.

I honest to god have no idea how to say that without sounding offensive.

>>32363043
>because then you'd be discounting one night stands where you overly treat the girl but get sex afterwards
My brother, if you've spent more than $40 worth of drinks at a bar on a one night stand you're doing them wrong and you have no clue what a one night stand is. I face fucked girls in my car in the parking lot of a downtown goth bar for an entire year and spent probably less than $100 doing so.

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>>32362339
>I would presume some sort of organization and function
Let's be honest, they wouldn't do shit. An incel revolution would be a joke and nothing more. A bunch of fat losers who are afraid of the outside world are hardly going to be agents for change.

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>>32356021
I'm still a virgin at 33 because I've only met 2 girls in my entire life that I was attracted to. 2. I'm as picky as a woman. Though maybe it's just because I live in America where the average woman is 300 pounds when you include the 100 pounds of makeup caked on their ugly ass face. The ugliness of women has turned me into a furry.

>>32363080
She (pic related) is prettier than any human woman.

>>32363080
>>32363084
Young virgins, take a good look at this guy. That's what's in your future. Imagine being that guy.

Unmarried sex is a trick. What is delivers is so much less than what it costs. I lost my virginity late and I regret it because it was typical drunk shenanigans with a thot who couldn't ever love me. I'd rather have been a virgin til 40 than deal with the fallout from that time and the subsequent women I would deal with.

>>32356536
why is university the only way to have access to women? not only are there LOTS of incels even in college because being in college doesnt make you not autistic, but theres plenty of places to meet women without being in uni.
bars, clubs, concerts, events, dating apps, hell even just go outside to any major city area and theyre everywhere...

>>32356352
i think the incel argument would be that there are some people who are so genetically unattractive or mentally ill that nobody would ever have sex with them. most incels arent real incels, but some people certainly are.

>>32356536
>In your 30s you should have money to
pay hookers

>>32363294
>why is university the only way to have access to women?
Because it is. It's the only place where lots of women go without being surrounded by meat shield, which offers things to break ice about and start and continue conversations (what is your major/what class are you waiting for? what is it like?) and where women aren't deadly afraid of speaking.
>reddit location spam
all of these have been debunked countless times
none of these allow speaking to strangers, none have things to talk about, bars have meatwalls around women same with clubs, in concerts they just stare at stage and there's loud noise, no events outside of uni/friends, no one speaks to strangers outside on streets, on dating apps there's gender imbalance that makes it mathematically impossible to ever meet women most ....

>>32363302
That's not what we're talking about.

>>32356021
>you still want sex
sure
>no matter what
that's bullshit. sex is not *that* hard to come by if you're truly willing to expend every effort and under any circumstance. If you still haven't had sex is because there are some things you're unwilling to do for it.

>>32363378
>You only 'need' to breathe and live for some starfish sex from the used up whores while others get a wild ride from virgins for free
Uhuh.

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>can tell when underage girls are into me
>can tell when older women are into me
>invisible by own age group
What the fuck is this shit man, come on

>>32362524
best of luck to you
i've managed to conquer my sexual urges so i couldn't care less if i end up living 100+ years as a virgin
but i really hope you succeed, since i don't think anyone can or should go about it the way i did

>>32363026
>Well, I mean, how would you know? You've never touched a woman.
i would know because i fell in love a couple of times and ceased by means of consciously choosing not to be anymore
as for "never touching a woman", that is absolutely false, and has no bearing on the validity on the statements that i've put forth

>>32362475
>No I mean, how is it actually possible?
I know what you mean and i've told you: Fuck. Knows.
there is no logical, satisfactory answer, it just is
i've stopped bothering to understand it, i've just accepted my fate and managed to mentally get into sort of state where i couldn't give any less fuck about any kind of romantic encounter with women and even started going on nofap since june of '21.
if you really wanna dig further into it, you are welcome to ask and provide theories as to why i ended up like this and i will provide you with as much necessary info as i am able

>>32356536
>In your 30s you should have money to quit your job and come back to university again which means you are very close to losing virginity, partying, hooking up, dating etc. all the fun shit in life.

I know this is bait, but I'll bite. I'm 27 and I'm in my second year of university. Pretty much all of my classmates are 20 years of age, give or take. Every single one of them is extremely immature. Most of them have no direction in life and don't know what the fuck they are doing. The girls (emphasis on 'girls', because they are not women yet) are shallow and only care about three things:
- looks
- cars
- having a good time

They certainly don't care about personal qualities or character. Unless you appeal visually to zoomer girls or are filthy rich, you won't have much success in uni/college in your 30s, Im afraid.

Academically, I'm crushing it and am at the top of the class. Next year I'll be my close buddy's best man at his wedding. I know I have value as a man, but the girls at uni don't see it. They only see the bland exterior.

>>32364704
Forgot to add. If you are in your 30s, you will never really fit in with your classmates, unless you are as immature and unambitious/directionless as them. At best, you'll be acquaintances with them.

>>32364611
>i would know because i fell in love a couple of times and ceased by means of consciously choosing not to be anymore
I'm not sure if this counts. Any incel virgin can fall in love with someone. Like I fell in love with the Porsche sitting at the dealership down the road. That doesn't translate to me having any actual experience. I'm talking about actual experience in a relationship with a woman.

>as for "never touching a woman", that is absolutely false, and has no bearing on the validity on the statements that i've put forth
Its absolutely valid. You're making value statements about the validity of an experience you have zero first hand knowledge of. You have no clue what constitutes weakness in an intimate relationship or whether or not one experience is more preferable than the other because you know nothing about it. You've never done it. You're just guessing.

I went from having little to no friends at 25 to having a large social circle of friends at 31 so I think my trajectory is going in the right direction and I need to be more patient and less forceful in trying to make relationships work with incompatible women. Rather than thinking "never ever," I feel like it'll happen eventually and I'm pretty regularly meeting new women.

>>32356021
I hired an escort to take my wizard powers away. I do not regret it.

>>32364704
>Every single one of them is extremely immature.
So what? Be immature with them, that's the fun part of everything. If you're an incel chances are you're very immature yourself
You want to have a good time as well, you want to party and date and do fun things with fun people, that's the whole point of dating and coming back to university.
>>32364714
That's good because it means everyone who comes back with the desire to just party, date, hookup and socialize (all incels) will fit right in and have a great time.

>>32356021
I won't read cope threads.

>>32356260
You are revolting.

>30+ virgin

Just pay for it at this point bro

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I still have a large backlog of loli sex games I know I'll enjoy

I'm not a virgin, lost it at 31 in a ONS, but I never had a gf and it seems that I never will have one, can't cope with this stuff, you just live one day at a time. What keeps me from an hero is sleep time, if I didn't have quality sleep I would be feeling sorrow 24/7, which would be unbearable.

>>32356021
I don't really feel like past experiences influence happiness very much unless they are actively effecting the present. Being a 30+ virgin is not different from being a 30+ non-virgin in this light. There are probably other specific things about yourself or life that are making you upset, and these things may influence why you are a virgin.

I’m seeing an escort this Friday, I’m bringing 3 Trojan thins and I haven’t jerked off in 2 weeks. I couldn’t get hard the first time but I’m thinking it will work this time. Dont care about if it counts or not just tired of all the bullshit and unfairness regarding sex/relationships.

I’m dating a girl off an app now and after 3 dates all she wants is a kiss in the cheek lmao. Hopefully I can practice sex with the escort so I don’t embarrass myself with future gfs.

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>>32356260

>>32356334
reminder...not to swim in pools if your living in a place without water

>>32364383
>cougars like me
Go for the cougars anon, you don't have to marry one just do a short fling with some 35 or 40+ year old woman to get some experience

>>32356568
>I get that unmitigated cocains addiction and autism aren't exactly the same thing so it probably worked for you,
it didn't lmao, he's giving "advice" that has hasn't even taken himself.

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>>32356021
It's over as soon as you turn 18 and leave the school system without a well established social circle. You go to work, but you won't make any friends, just coworkers. You join a sports club, same deal. It's over, because everyone already has their social circles locked in since childhood. You'll be nothing more than a coworker, destined to be alone for life. Social life and relationships are like trains you have to catch at the quay, a race against time that takes place during adolescence. And by extension, logically of course, no social life and no women.
But normies don't understand this because they are clueless normies who think you can walk into a bar full of strangers and magically form a social life like in The Sims. Only women can start from scratch and create a social life and get a boyfriend from scratch because of their status as women.

Whether you're 30 or not it doesn't change anything, maybe for the normies, but for you and me Chud, a year is like any other, the sands of time flowing towards nothingness, nothing less.. nothing more.

>>32363294
because university have women in their prime 18-22

>>32356536
Reminder that I met my wife on omegle, and that makes schooler seethe.

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>>32356021
I heard that dating while being lean is dating on easy difficulty.
I'm fat but muscular and I'm losing weight pretty fast.

WAGMI

>>32375825
People treat me a bit better now that I'm not fat but I'm not "lean" yet, we'll see if that changes anything.

>>32356021
I won't read cope threads. OP has no intention of actually doing anything.

>>32356021
>How do you cope while not giving up?
Giving up on what?

I don't really have a problem with being a virgin over 30. I'm not asexual, but I just never put the effort in to get a gf.
I do plan on trying some dating soon though, because I've had some online encounters and those made me want to have a real relationship.
But I'm not feeling like I've missed out. Like, I always had things going on in my life that were more important to me than being in a romantic relationship and I never went out of my way to get into one, e.g. online dating.

>>32376026
Life ends and begins at 12% anon

>>32377452
I'll see if I can get to that water fasting.

>>32364734
>any actual experience
No one is talking about experience. I am talking about being mentally strong enough to break through "falling in love crap", something that you had to struggle to do admittedly while i can easily ignore the urges and overcome them through sheer will. It's like a fat person telling me: "You have no idea how impossible it's to stop eating junk food. You wouldn't know because you disciplined yourself to stop after you've had enough so until you start devouring 1000s of calories a day, it doesn't count."

>You're just guessing.
I am not. I know. I am not a weakling. If you got rekt emotionally for practicing weakness with a woman and you only ended up being a bit down for a while, consider yourself lucky. There are even bigger retards than you, who lose their families, money, property, honor and fuck knows what else for being far weaker than you and not one of them fails to make me laugh. You may find pleasure in weakness, i don't, no matter what's the situation or if i have experience or not.

>>32371141
this is the undisputed truth

>>32356498
NTA but incel as an insult has really lumped in a lot of people who are a genuinely incels, as in, the definition of the phrase, involuntarily celibate, but are otherwise perfectly fine human beings who just for a variety of different reasons have had sex. These people are not the demographic the insult is aimed at but they still get lumped in and made to feel awful and hear bad things said about themselves, but none of the people who say these things care or give a shit about these people so it doesn't really matter to them if these faceless people are lumped in.

I think this is where a lot of the problems are coming from and a lot of people are unfairly copping a lot of flak and its driving a lot of young blokes to a bad path because of it and I see a lot of problems in the future arising because of this.
Most of these people probably could get laid if they were willing to massively drop their standards or go after those they aren't interested in which is fair enough and very reasonable but it definitely creates some issues when they can't find a suitable women, don't get me wrong, some dudes have way too high standards and I am not talking about that, just talking about the fellas being realistic.

>>32375825
Eh, I would believe it if I were fat for all my life. I didnt get any attention when I was skinny in early 20s. Now Im just a fat wizard in mid 30s

>>32356021
Marry a woman.

>>32371141
>You join a sports club, same deal.
True. I joined a BJJ gym (obviously there are no women there) and I actually talk to lots of people there but they all disappear the moment I leave.

>>32356021
You stop caring around the age of 30. I'm a 36 year old virgin and my sex drive basically disappeared in my late 20s. I haven't watched porn in over a year and looking at women does nothing for me anymore.

>>32375825
I'll try. Its really difficult to maintain muscle and lean out though and I'd like to keep what I earned there

>>32381198
I hope to reach this stage one day.

>>32381198
I don't think that's normal bro. I'm a 37 year old virgin and still have a sex drive and porn addiction that I need to abstain from with discipline. I don't pursue women because I don't have much to offer and I also don't want someone around me even more neurotic than I am.

>>32381244
idk. I've talked to other virgins my age and some have the same experience as me. I guess your brain just subconsciously realizes it's never going to happen so it just shuts down those functions.

>>32381244
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>>32356021
32 year old german here
I have never had a date, never kissed someone and never had sex. Sure, I wonder a bit but by now pretty much all my desires have dulled considerably.
A lot went wrong in my life so that I never made any human connections. Right now I have a corporate job and manage at least financially. But I am exhausted and constantly tired. Suffering from MS does not help either.

I guess my time for experiencing sex is over since I am physicially very limited now, pretty much everything hurts all the time and so forth.

I just don't seem to have the energy anymore to even get really depressed or feel anything extrordinarily, so I just tend to keep to myself and try as best as I can to financially secure my existence. I guess there is no coping required anymore...

(Also I hate these captchas, I need like 10 attempts. What happened to the 9 pictures?)

>>32381601
>>32381198
wait so you didnt masturbate either for over a year? maybe you are just full blown impotent? i mean ..

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>>32380847
Skinny isn't the same as lean, anon bro.

Go lift.

>>32382454
Lifting wont change my goblin face.

>>32356021
I'm a 36 year old virgin.
It's just over. I missed out on everything.
Will probably just kill myself after my mom dies since there's not really any point in living. Right now I just get up and go to work for nothing. Just to get taxed so I can fund a society I'm not even a part of. It's the existence of a cuck.

i'm a 27 year old virign. i honestly just don't really think about it that much.

>>32356260
>So anon why do you intend on toppling society
>I uhh... Can't get a gf
You guys are pathetic

>>32383307
>Right now I just get up and go to work for nothing
What do you do in free time?

>>32383528
Zombiebrowse the internet, same as I have done since I was 18.

>>32383644
Why don't you do something to give your life meaning?
Learn the drums and join a band
Meet a woman and start a family
Make an app and change the world

>>32356021
I dont cope. It pisses me off.
But then again, what can i do?

>>32384146
>Meet a woman and start a family
>I'm a 36 year old virgin.
Did you read his post?

33 here, work from home so no social life, live with my parents cus i spent most of the year sick (and several months throughout the years)
only had one girl interested in me, she was very pretty and all over me but my undiagnosed autism ruined it, she moved to the us and doesn't plan on coming back
i signed up for yoga classes cus im still weak but that's next year and probably not suitable to flirt there
another xmas/new year alone

>>32381766
durchhalten bruder, du kannst immer ein teures hobby anfangen und damit zufrieden werden.
puff gibts auch noch, falls du unbedingt mal einlochen musst, oder das leben zu schlimm wird kek

>>32356619
>"thanks but I dont like lemon cake"
That's chadmaxxing bro

>>32385155
Danke für die Rückmeldung.

Vor Nutten oder dem Puff ekel ich mich etwas. Ich vermute, mir geht es mehr darum, dass mich eine Frau will; damit meine ich eine mit Standards und nicht irgend eine Hörige oder so. Da ich dafür aber nicht wirklich etwas anbieten kann wird das wohl nichts.

Mit der MS hab ich kaum kräfte mich über Wasser zu halten im Alltag, ich schaff meinen Job und gerade so meinen Haushalt. (Reha)-Sport fällt da häufig flach und für Hobbies ist da nix mehr...

TL;DR: I don't want hookers and my MS makes me too exhausted for hobbies

>>32383255
Losing weight will most likely do it. A lot of us aren't ugly, we are just fat.

Lose the weight anon, you can do it.

>>32364383
Underage girls are too young to be fed bullshit dating advice, cougars grew out.

>>32388012
Not going to lie, its a tough path. Especially when eating/drinking provides positive stimulation.