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>What is /htgwg/?
How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?
These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice
Context is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/
https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)
https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html
https://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating
(new suggestions with working links are welcome)

REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.

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well lads, posted a few weeks ago about fucking milf when i have preggo GF

shit is blowing up now. got a baby boy and MILF has completely fallen and is craving my dick 24/7 and i think im falling for MILF too. GF mad as fuck i've started to distance myself and we're about to get counceling. might have to just drop the nuke on her and hope she doesnt self-kops. she said she would move back south and leave the baby with me if she broke up during a fight. luckily MILF seems chill and said she'd support me and we'd sort thing out. i just hope my dad doesnt kick the shit out of me, but luckily he just broke his fucking back on holiday, lmao.

PS, 3 years ago i was a KHV. dating apps fucking sucks.the key seems to be to find that one guy that knows the whole fucking town and get invited to party with all the single milfs he knows.

wish me luck, fuckos
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>Be 15
>Girl I sat next to in class would always tell me I'm smart and funny pretty much every day
>Call her autistic and she gets sad and I don't apologize
>Vibe with her is worse after that
>Be 17
>Playing card game and talking with some girl in my class
>She keeps rubbing my legs with her legs under the table
>Beat her at the game and never speak to her again
>Be 19
>Telling some girl a funny story and when I start doing an impression of a guy we know she starts laughing so hard she has to use the bathroom cause she was going to pee herself
>She tells me I'm one of the funniest people she's met before
>Don't ask her out, leave instead
>She gets a bf a couple months later
>Be 19 (later that year)
>Female friend invites me to her apartment and says her roommates aren't home
>We're sitting on her bed together looking at each other and she says she's bored and asks what we should do
>I say "uhh idk.." and change the subject
>We ended up just talking for like 5 hours
I have literally gone skydiving but the idea of even hugging a woman seems so alien to me.
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>>33920846
Kissed my qt boss a couple of times at her party she invited me too. I guess we were both drunk. Both times though it started slow then she initiated heavily into it and kissing aggressively but then pulled back eventually saying we can't. Maybe because our work relationship.

Anyways throughout the night we were holding and rubbing hands and bunch. I was touching and combing my fingers through her hair etc.

What does this mean? Is she deep down attracted to me? Should I discuss what happened with her or just go about like nothing happened? Won't be seeing her til Wednesday.
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I’ve liked a coworker for a while. We’ve had a few casual chats; she’s friendly and open. Twice she brought me bread in the morning, and one time she told me she’d thrown up earlier that day. That felt surprisingly personal, like she trusted me.
I’d like to get closer, but I’m shy and don’t want to make her uncomfortable. How can I tell if she might be interested, or just being kind? Any advice on how to approach this without it being awkward?
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>>33921082
Bruh. She wanted you and absolutely wouldve if youd have given her like a bare kinimum excuse or plausible deniability. I bet all you had to have said was some dumb shit like: its too late now or we've already gone this far, and you coulda gotten your dick wet. Dont say shit, but maybe slip a tease in sometime. She'll probably come to you if you dont seem like you let it effect you.
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>>33921196
Where do I go from Here
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>>33920887
im rather stay a khhv then lose all self respect
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>>33920898
yeah youre gonna get turned away at the gates of agartha regardless
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Hey, autistic guy who looks, hobby, and fitmaxxed but realized his social skills regressed.
Where do I go to meet women? When is it okay to cold approach?
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>>33921265
>Where do I go to meet women?
Depends, what kind of woman/relationship are you looking for?
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>>33921255
Too fucking bad because when you are 30 like me you best be a damn good boy toy for the 27-35 year olds. Alright. Yeah life sucks now, but you can make suck even more by avoiding responsibility.
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>>33920898
Motherfucker hugs are fucking easy from women. You have got to be so fucking ugly this dog would be jealous of your looks if you can't even get a hug.
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What’s the best way to get over a girl you got a little attached to after sex and she blew off the chance of anything happening in the future? I feel empty.
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What do I do if I'm so out of practice when it comes to conversation that I just bore people or make them feel awkward with my slow stuttering and monosylabic responses? Don't tell me practice makes perfect, I'm looking for a quick fix here.
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If a girl is trying to you up with friend and you do not find this friend attractive, what is the best way to let them down easy and not have them think you are an asshole. Alternatively what do you say/do if you did find them attractive?

Situation 1: I was at this party and this girl who I knew but didn't really talk to came up to me excited and introduced me to her friend. I did not find her friend attractive.

Situation 2: Girl who I didn't really know but chilled with before wants to set me up with her friend and wanted to show me her friend's insta.

Situation 3: Girl in my class is recently single (so am I) and my friend said we would look good together and I had been talking to said girl a bit before she and her bf broke up. This girl was attractiveish, but not my type.
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>>33921708
Stop being a pussy and just say no thanks.
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>>33921265
>When is it okay to cold approach?
Never. That's basically rape.
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Where do even I meet people? I am always indoor. I have no hobbies.

And the times I am outside at events I do not have the courage or want to "talk" to people.
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>>33921708
"She's cute but I'm not looking for a relationship right now." You're making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
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>>33922012
>Where do I even meet people
>I am indoors
Go outdoors. Find hobbies outside your house. Find *something* you're interested in outside of your home.
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>>33922012
You could also get a job doing something you like, and make friends that way.
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>>33922047
I am not interested in anything. Nothing peaks my interest. I think it is say to safe I am just waiting for death.
>>33922055
I have colleagues but I am not sure I can call them my friends.
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>Had a good time yesterday :)
>Me too, when are you free again? Would like to see you
>No response
If I don't hear from her in two weeks, should I even try again? I think no and stick to my guns, but what do you think?
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>>33921545
>she blew off the chance of anything happening in the future
How?
I guess the only way is meeting new girls
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>>33920846
went out last friday alone. ended up just drinking and smoking by myself. saw a few people I wanted to approach but they were deep in their groups. I need a fucking social buffer man.
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>>33922860
Im about to hang out with some fellow goths at the goth bar near me despite more than a decade of being friendless. its amazing how fast life can turn around.
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>>33922925
How to get a goth baddie? With big boobs or without
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Too picky regarding women?

Should I fix this or no? It's not even a looks pickiness thing, it's that I basically demand I get to know them extensively before I'm interested. Also usually if they're otherwise not fucked in the head I don't seem to be interested.
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>>33923038
I dont know, theyre all other men in their 20s
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>>33923180
yeah probably. I struggle with not being attracted to most women because porn-brain, but if you are only attracted to fucked women you are likely avoiding rejection from a woman you actually want or you are only trying to get laid or seeking chaos that you're comfortable with.
liking fucked women gives you the power in the dynamic because if you leave, it's her fault in your rationalization, which may or may not be true. I've been on both sides of that coin.
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hinge dried up on me. jumped on it ab a month ago and got decent amt of likes, but girls would at least match with me a decent amount. started texting off app with a girl and she flaked on me after like 2 weeks. now I'm back on the app and literally not even getting likes. is this a scam to get me to buy premium? how do yall get around this?
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So I had a first date (dinner) with a girl I met on Hinge over the weekend. Things went well, I got her number, and we're currently texting.

Trying to plan a second date. I'm thinking mini golf or axe throwing (yeah, yeah, they're reddit, but I'm looking for something active/fun), then ice cream after.

Looking for any advice on how to push things forward (get a kiss, be romantic, etc.).
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I got this girls number outside of a store a couple weeks ago. She was quickly responding to me, so I called her and set up a date in a few days. She warned me she could possibly sleep in from a late work shift but agreed to it anyway. In the meantime she sent me a pic of her halloween costume, we talked a little but I left it quiet. The day comes and she doesn't show up. I call her and she had just woken up and had a late shift. She texted me "can we reschedule?" I texted her to meet later in the day and got no response.

The next day I texted her, asking when she'd be available. She said "tomorrow night maybe?"
I said sure, lets meet at x place at x time.

that morning, she said she forgot something and had to cancel.
I responded "gay" and we had more talking through text, teased her a little but then left her on read for a few days after she sent a double text how she definitely wants to get together this week. I texted her a couple words yesterday and she replied pretty quickly.

Idk what to do, I'd feel like a fool asking her out again. I was thinking of calling her in a few days to reestablish something, but I feel like I'm just being led on. I barely feel any attraction to her now so I can't imagine how she feels.

In other news, I had a fling with a serious actual 10/10 earlier this year while traveling, she would keep visiting me and cooking for me before she broke up with me. I'm now back home surrounded by hotties who aren't nearly as interesting as her but I'm nervous around them. I thought it was supposed to get better. I spit on, spanked and was cooked food by a much more attractive woman than most of the population.
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>>33920887
I hope your dad heals or gets an experimental powered exosleleton so he is able to kick your teeth in jesus
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>>33923698
hug her upon arrival. that breaks the contact barrier early. axe throwing will be nice esp if alcohol is involved and you can keep composure. don't be afraid to bump into her, touch her arm, etc. if she recoils, the give her space. you should see it in her eyes if she wants you to kiss her.
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>>33923740
that last paragraph made everything else seem pointless.
either shoot your shot with this hoe or delete her number.
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Going on my first real date at 27. What do I do if she asks about my previous relationships or some shit? Would that even happen?
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>>33923800
avoid lying because you might have a tell, but maybe stick with "yeah never really been in anything that was serious". leave it at that
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>>33923800
>What do I do if she asks about my previous relationships or some shit?
Tell the truth with confidence, like it’s no big deal.
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>>33923792
Shoot my shot as in asking her out for a 3rd time? Or throwing a hail mary, like come over n fuk?
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>>33923820
whichever you want desu you know her vibe more than me. maybe you could be goofy ab it and be like "hail mary here, dinner at 7 on thursday" or whatever
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>>33923827
recommending this because I'm deciding if I want to do the same thing with some girl I'm in a similar situation with lol.
haven't talked since friday tho so it's prolly cooked.
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>>33920846
is the moid who's making these threads daily using progressively uglier pictures of women on OP on purpose lol
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>>33923784
We hugged at the beginning and end of the first date. She also let me see her phone, so I think she's pretty open.

I'm just unsure/nervous about how to escalate further. I suppose the alcohol and physical exertion will help.
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>>33923740
Theres always a chance that she genuinely had these excuses but I always have the assumption that shes genrally feel unsure and shy, so instead of being forward about it she makes up dumb reasons to justify cold feet. She probably does want to meet you actually, but women tend to overthink (nothing rational about it though lol) to the point where they get flakey and noncommunicative. I think this is how they rationalize shit tests, BTW. Basically fabricating a situation where your actions can be used as an excuse for them to drop you rather than go out of their comfort zone and get to know someone.

Ask her out one more time and be very clear and firm that this is the last time you'll be patient about it.
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>>33923962
Like the other guy said, just touch her. Obviously start with taps on the shoulder, brushing arms, but you can make your way towards her hand, maybe further down her back without crossing into touching her ass obviously. Read her reaction before progressing though, like if she draws away then thats a signal to stop pushing your luck
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>>33924005
>Obviously start with taps on the shoulder, brushing arms, but you can make your way towards her hand, maybe further down her back
NTA but how do you do this without it seeming forced/creepy?
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M30

All this happened during a company event. I forgot my cream for dry hands so I asked one female coworker in the hotel hallway. She is a bit older than me, married and quite hot. She is usually quite friendly with me.

She says yeah I have some in my room. So we go together there. We're alone. She gives the cream to me and says I need to pee. She doesn't close the toilet door completely. I can hear her peeing.

So I'm standing there thinking what to do, I remember her hugging me when we see each other and laughing at my jokes, but at the same time I've only seen her like 3 times in my life and she is from a different culture (also HR) so I did nothing.

My question is - is this normal? Was she in for something more?
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>>33923978
I texted her 2 nights I'm free this week. No question, leaving the floor for her since the ball is in her court to reschedule.
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>>33924103
It's only creepy if she doesn't like you.
>>33924121
No mate
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>>33924135
>Okay I'll look at my schedule and I'll let you know

She either really likes texting me and feels like I don't text enough or she is just delaying the inevitable 3rd flake. Either way she could have just waited to text me. I make her wait days, hours and she gets back to me within 30 minutes or even immediately if I'm faster.

This is a huge difference from previous girls because I used to text them faster even if I was super busy, but I've started a new practice of ignoring my phone and letting myself be in the moment in my life.

Guys, its better to make them wait for text than the other way around.
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>>33924103
Without seeming forced isnt the point. If anything youre trying to make it obvious. Like obviously dont just poke her shoulder out of nowhere. But if i have to explain what a normal situation where putting a hand on someone's shoulder is then im sorry for you.
Without seeming creepy is >>33924175. If she likes you enough to do multiple dates then she shouldn't think youre creepy.at this point.
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>>33920846
i got a coffee date tommorow. how do i get info about her without it seeming like interrogation? i dont want to just ask questions, how do i make her to open up?
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>>33924550
Is the concept of getting to know someone completely lost on you retards?
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Focus on who she is, not what she is. Yes she is hot, but she is serving you coffee. Focus on the coffee. Focus on how she is working at a cafe to serve coffee. The more you focus on details like that, rather than she looks hot and has a beautiful face, the more likely you are to have her as a girlfriend. Women like guys who listen to them, not guys who ogle at them. However, nothing wrong with finding women hot, but you just got to see her as more than just a hot woman. Otherwise, there is no real love.
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I've been on dates with several women this year but is getting ghost and told there is no romantic connection normal? Often times i go on 1-3 dates and i flirt and do all that stuff and even kiss / make out but it often leads to nothing. It this just how it is these days?
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>>33920846
I matched with a girl last week and invited her to hang out over the weekend. She ended up saying she couldn’t due to work. We are still talking tho, should I bother inviting her out again or wait for her to invite next time?
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>>33924631
Are you inviting them over to go watch something after?
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>>33920846
>HTGWG, when modern dating is full of gold digging whores and baby mamas trying to trick simps into paying their electric bill
Lol
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>>33924650
No, not after the first few dates.
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>>33921114
Don't have much advice for you, just a little further along that same track as you. I'm having lunch with her tomorrow, but still not really sure how she feels. How much do you actually work with her?
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So, there is a girl i met at an event, she was in my team (random team) at first I didn't have anything on her (just a normal team mate) but as time passed, after the event, I took her no. (didn't ask explicitly, took everyone's number to share some info related to event, during event).

As we talked I began to feel for her, and at first, things went pretty well (what I believe) then the graph went down as she got to know that I like her, she sent me a photo (I didn't ask, it was included in the context, she gave on her will) and after some time, when the graph was low, I don't know if I made it too low by complimenting her or not, please tell me, this was the compliment:

"those memory bytes that stored your photo for few amount of seconds are now will be called as Golden bytes and shall live forever till eternity."

I added: "apologies if it was... odd"

then there was a buffer in b/w, and then I texted her, then we started talking like before (for like 2-3 days). I was again going out of control thinking about her, but then I decided to stop texting to see if she texts or not, then 2-4 days passed, no text, then she texted "Hey, Whats up", then again nothing much talk since then.


Any advice??
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>>33920846
Apparently you need a minimum of 6 photos to be able to even have a profile on Hinge now. I only have 2 good photos of myself. I haven’t had any friends in 5 years, so I have no one to take photos of me. What do I do here?
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>>33923779
>>33921255
i can see why you say that.
lost feelings for her months ago due to all the fights we've had since the start, or i wouldnt have gone down this road. we both have baggage and other shit that fuel the fire downhill, and neither of us is can communicate properly so shit just gets worse every time.
looking back, we both should have seen the red flags.
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>>33924717
Bro you what graph?? If she texts you she's waiting for you she's waiting for you to ask her out
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>>33924195
While I normally agree that you should pace out your responses, theres also something to be said about showing more enthusiasm by shortening the gap between replies. In this way youre kind of showing interest and availability. If you show enough interest then she will feel like her own interest is being reciprocated and will get her more enthusiastic in return. This is an important consideration if you have someone who has been present enough to message you over the course of a week. Get her to actually eagerly want to meet her.

Of course don't do this immediately with any girl because it can come off needy, but the whole thing about women being attracted to aloof men isnt really accurate to begin with. They might like nonchalance and indifference when they first meet you, but once they have your attention they expect you to become emotionally available. Unless you are a literal 11/10 perfect idealized man, they arent going to put up with being ignored. I mean ffs thats exactly why they cheat.
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>>33924631
Are you specifically meeting women in their later 20s who are looking for long term relationships? Because yes thats normal
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>>33924638
You fell for the first shit test in the book, congrats. Read this thread for more insights
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>>33924694
Not much. We work in different areas and sit at opposite ends of the office. Today she came over to ask for a phone charger. I can tell she likes me as a person, but I’m not sure if she’s actually into me. Personally, I think it’s impossible she would be, but my self-esteem is really low right now, so my perception might be off. Ironically, I can’t even trust my own judgment. I’m not that ugly, just average i think. But she’s a 10/10 to me. Is it possible that she feels a slight attraction? Or is it more of a yes-or-no kind of thing?
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>>33924717
Literal android over here

>>33924909
Congrats, now youre bringing a child into a fucked up family situation because youre too retarded and horny to make intelligent choices. I hope you wise up and raise this kid to not be an absolute failure
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>>33924638
This is the kind of thing where you have to be able to feel the vibes. Look, it can be anything from she got slammed with a 36 hour weekend or she had other dates lined up. The way i personally feel something like this out is her interest and her lamentations for not being able to.

When you find real chemistry with one person just once, you can later better feel out the vibes with others.
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hey anons, i want to know how generally meet up with woman? i'm sitting at home almost everyday, but want to find someone, who also want to spend time together via discord, and maybe at my or her home.

i'm probably look good enough, but i just can't find anybody in the internet with my lifestyle. advices?

is there girls, that live like me? i'm 21 and i want somebody of my age.
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ok I'm not hopeless. i get haircuts and smell nice and dress well. I'm fat but I can talk to girls at school and they'll say hi to me and i can get matches on the apps they just don't talk to me before the time expires. I'm so close but i just don't know what is the last thing i have to do to get intimacy
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There's this hot older milf who's a part of this organization I go to. We've spoken to each other before, she invited me out to a thing once. The vibes that I get is that she's maybe sort of interested. How do I get her to go out on a date with me?
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>>33925282
Reading this hurts. Have fun beating yourself up 5 years down the line if not sooner for having spent THE prime year sitting at home all the time

Be in school/uni whatever go join a frat go socialize and get rejected a bunch until you get good. Simple shit. Do not waste that age retard
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What should I do for a second date? We're both uni students. I have basically no money so preferably something cheap/free. Our first date we had lunch and hugged at the end. I'm guessing I should try to kiss her next time right? I've never done that before.
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>>33925134
What’s the shit test? The fact I’m still here might kinda show I’m not the brightest and need to be spoonfed
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>>33925156
I’d like to give her the benefit of the doubt. Should I try asking her out, but this time for dinner or something? Or maybe ask her about her schedule before throwing out plans?
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these threads are hilarious. It's either incels giving advice to other incels or pathetic losers who lucked out and got an ugly/fat gf thinking they are in a position to help anyone
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>>33926000
Still am at the other side improving my life while you're on the side I'm observing just complaining. Go ahead, be all this intelligent practical talk, see where it leads you as opposed to being someone like me who actually applies what he learns, but just doesn't have the skill to express it. I don't know maybe you should sell toilets since you make shit sound good.
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>>33926000
Do you actually read these threads? Lots of normalfags here
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Remember, focus on the power of being an example, not your social skills. It'll help out every-time you feel you are too socially awkward for a woman. Even if you are a stuttering nervous wreck, a group of assholes stand no chance to someone who is all action and no word. You want to know what all word and no action is? A prima donna. Think of that next time you got these assholes trying to steal your girl at a bar; All talk and no action is just prima donnas.
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>>33926042
Do you have any friends, Zach? You should commit suicide. You take yourself so serious all the time
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>>33925282
Holy shit, literally what the other anon said. I spent 6 years in college, going to class then coming home and gaming. Biggest waste of fucking time and my best years I hope to God youre trolling.
>lifestyle
You arent living you fucking idiot, wake up before its too late
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>>33926048
My conscious is so damn strong nothing you throw at me can throw me off it. I can live without friends, relationships, support, and any of that. Hell I can live without a fucking computer. You, you can't do shit without your ability of making these excuses you usually do. One day a girl is gonna look at me and you, and while you give that jackass smile of yours I'm gonna be like a pirate giving his tales from being on a ship.
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>>33926048
Side note, if you hate me so much why don't you try to kill me instead of getting me to kill myself. Pussy.
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>>33925807
Bro google cheap dates ffs. Arcade, hike, beach, karaoke, mini golf, fucking anything. If she doesnt like cheap shit and dumps you for it dont sweat it, means she wasnt actually interested in you. Try activity based stuff unless youre a good talker, sitting down and chatting for an hour or two isnt always stimulating. Yes, kiss her on the second date retard, shoulda been the first desu.
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>>33922856
I think I scared her off by trying to be too romantic too quickly. She sent me a long text about how we’re on slightly different pages, how she wouldn’t be able to do “us” justice due to how busy she is with work and living in another town and finished it off by saying that there’s someone out there for me. Real bummed about it because it could’ve been a nice casual thing whenever she’d come back into the city that might’ve developed over time if I didn’t overplay my hand.
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>>33925857
>but this time for dinner
I wouldn’t, but that’s me. Dinner is something i’d reserve for someone overtly enthusiastic. You said you’re still talking; just keep talking and ‘press’ for meeting up.
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>>33926117
>I think I scared her off by trying to be too romantic too quickly.
>She sent me a long text about how we’re on slightly different pages
This is something to feel good about. You didn’t scare her off. You’re just on different pages. The goal isn’t to find a woman; the goal is to find a woman who connects with you and who you are and how you act.

I know this will sound like cope, but if someone doesn’t click with you, that’s something to be happy about, because you won’t want to be with her either.
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I think I'm being flirted with and I'm not sure what to do. Bear with my meme arrow whining for a moment:

>messed up childhood, tldr emotional abuse, pussy dad, hated that I was growing up.
>mostly recovered, ego smaller but stronger, body image better but not "health at any size" good. Paradoxically much slimmer since I stopped trying to starve myself.
>still can't figure out small talk, even with guys I know. I'm not hugely afraid of people not liking me, I try asking about their interests and stuff like people suggest, but sooner or later run into "and then what"?
>It's much worse with women because I grew up getting blamed for her raging and sobbing, and my dad's example is to be a giant simp.

So I've asked for help with this sort of thing, and I haven't really gotten any really relevant advice, I know this is way too deep a topic for a thread like this on a mongolian basked weaving forum, but I'm pretty sure a woman from work was flirting with me.

I live in a blue city in a purple state which has recently been flooded with brown people who don't speak english, which is over 50% of night shift where I work. Everyone's hours were cut recently, and started getting better this week. There's one woman there, I don't interact with her much, she's come to me a few times when she was having problems with the equipment or finding something and said she missed me... flattering since she doessn't speak english well.

I've been right in the middle of a "crushingly depressed about being lonely and unable to satisfy my sex drive very often" phase but this has me thinking... would fucking a woman I'm not really attracted to make me feel better or worse? I've done it before and enjoyed it, but that was after I talked to them on naughty chatrooms or something and knew they were lewd. I feel like paying her attention and flirting back would be way easier since we don't speak the same language. Would using her be wrong? Or is that what they like?
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>getting comfortable with singles events, but how can I tell when someone likes me vs just being nice?
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>>33922105
I feel that, I game just go keep myself engaged, it's not all "boy, I think i'm going to play vidya instead of being out having fun like a normal person" like the trolls say.

I started playing D&D a couple years back, that game ended and WotC has gotten turbo gay, but I still play board and card games with my friends every week. I'm on this thread to ask, I haven't met any girls at the game store playing nerd stuff, but it's something to look forewards to and remind yourself that other people mostly just want people to hang out with too, not a perfect person they have judged worthy to spend time with their glorious selves.
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Got a girl who wants to cheat on her bf with me
The problem is I'm enough of a moralfag to feel bad for the fella and I also ended a relationship a couple of months back and I think haven't healed completely from that
I have also been cheated on and I promised myself I'd never cause such harm on someone ese, not even indirectly
My counterpoint is that I'm really fucking horny, I'm not sure what to do
Any advice?
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>>33926622
Stop worrying about what they think of you start thinking about what you think of them. If you like them then escalate, their response will tell you what you want to know.
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>>33926658
unless you're friends (or at least friendly acquaintances with the guy) i'd say go for it if she's attractive. i'm a bit biased because to me, fucking another man's woman is the hottest thing ever. important to have a discussion about expectations/boundaries up front of course. is she trying to leave him for you or does she just want some side dick?
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>>33926117
she's just not that into you. being "romantic too quickly" or on "slightly different pages" is not an obstacle to actual attraction. if a woman is actually into you, she'll make it easy. chalk up a lesson learned and move on.
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>>33926666
>Those digits
Whoa thanks, satan
She just wants sex, she told me she's done this before because she has a very high libido and her bf doesn't
Also I've met the guy but very briefly, I'd be surprised if he even remembers me
I do agree it's hot as shit but at the same time I feel like an asshole, I can't decide what to do
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>>33926692
If you feel morally against it specially due to your experience then why tf would you want to inflict the same suffering? Pussy and horniness will come and go, but the guilt from your moral compass will nag at you for a longer time if not scar you forever.
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>>33926292
Got it, thanks fren
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>>33925815
She flakes to see if youre interested and persistent enough to ask her out again.
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>>33926658
Sounds like you already know the answer. Dont do it.
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>>33926747
>>33926791
Yeah you guys are probably right, I'm just gonna consider it a nice ego boost
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>>33921317
Being a boy toy for 27-35 year olds sounds hot.
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>Probably the weekend :)
>Ok, saturday works for me. Let me know if it works for you
>What days in the week are you available?
>Thursday or friday work for me, let me know if they work for you
>No response... yet
Fuck.

Should've done something different?
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>>33926658
Just jerk off for the horniness
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>>33927018
Follow-up
>Let me check and I will let you know
Options for me
>Sure, check your agenda and let me know
>Sure, however it sounds your agenda is too complicated for us to get together at the moment. If you can't, we can do it another time, no problem
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>>33925626
the main issue here is that i had my prime few years ago. i just dont want spend time and everyday fucking some bitches. i just want some chill girl, that prefer comfy time at home and gaming instead of fuck-parties every weekend.

and i dont don't get why yall got mad for my opinion on how i wanna live my life
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>>33926051
get laid incel, you're becoming angry asshole. i dont wanna fuck random hoes. instead i prefer comfy life with one girl that i like (if there any)
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>>33927262
>main issue here is that i had my prime few years ago. You're only 21, your prime is just getting started. There's more to life than high school antics, man
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>>33925128
I replied to her asking about her weekend, it was nice but I'm still waiting on hearing about her schedule.
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>have oneitis obsession
>decide that the best cure would be to meet other girls
>somehow get an absolute baddie of a gf that is also really sweet and fun through cold approach
>still can’t let go of oneitis despite my gf hardcore mogging her in looks and having many interests in common

How do I fix this I thought getting other women would stop me thinking about her.
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>>33920846
how do i stop being a cuck?
i grew up without my dad in the picture (died early), my mom never dated, and the only relationship talk i got from my older sister was her venting about ugly guys hitting on her, so i fell into the classic "don't approach women unless they basically tell you to" trap.
luckily for me, i often find myself in scenarios where girls are pretty forward and willing to initiate, but beyond that initial part i'm very much lost.
i hide my cowardice behind chivalry and it's hurt me a lot more than it's ever helped. especially when i know i should be escalating things but i don't know how to. girls have called me out on this before, sometimes outright telling me to break the touch barrier or asking if i'm physically affectionate at all.
i've actually lost girls because i've been too "well-trained", believe it or not.
and i feel guilty about it, too, because i definitely want to ask them out, flirt with them, kiss them, fuck them, whatever, but either i keep the polite charade on for too long and they lose interest/get creeped out or i drop it and the real, unpolished, deeply awkward and sexually repressed me comes out and they lose interest/get creeped out. feels like i have a lot of shit to work through but i don't have money for therapy. how can i get past this and actually engage with these women fully and honestly?
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>>33928983
>inb4 nice guy
kind of but not really? like i don't exist to please women. i can say no and am the first to express when something isn't going to work out for me. i can put my foot down and i don't expect being "nice" or whatever is going to get me anything. i just do it because i can't get it through my head that women are sexual beings who can welcome attraction lmao.
i'm just low-energy and don't want to give someone else a bad time while i'm enjoying myself. i think that's selfish and kills the whole point of dating.
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>>33925156
I literally just experienced this
>have date set up
>she flakes because she came down with a fever or something
>but has very enthusiastically has been messaging me and trying to get to know me
>was also eager to set up another date as soon as possible
I guess ill see her tomorrow evening but based on how shes been communicating I think it will go well
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>>33927018
You're not decisive enough. Women like men who make decisions. And at every point, you kept putting control in her hands instead of being definite so she could simply go yes or no.
>Probably the weekend
That means saturday. But instead of saying something like
>Ok. Let's do Saturday at 2
you basically asked her if the weekend was okay again. So now she doesn't want to spend her weekend with you and pushes to the weekdays which will always be more limited in comparison.
>When are you free during the week?
>LET ME KNOW IF THURSDAY IS OKAY WITH YOU
Please don't take this as me making fun. But what you're subconsciously doing is asking for her permission at every. single. fucking. step. Women don't like that. You're pushing her into the leadership position and as much as women say they're boss bitches and independent, their actions speak otherwise. You were supposed to say:
>I can do Thursday at 5.
No question. No permission.
>Let's do Thursday at 5
That would work too. You don't need to directly ask
>OH my god, fair lady, is this okay with you? I'll totally move everything around to suit your every whim.
(Yeah you didn't say that, but that's the energy you're projecting). By saying "Lets do Thursday at 5" or my other examples, she'll...tell you if it doesn't work. It's baked in. And you look like a man.

She basically stopped responding because you came across way too passive while also putting the burden of meeting on her. Women like leaders. What are your thoughts?
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The other night, I noticed a sign that a girl was into me for the first time in my life; the surprising thing was that everything about that day was completely normal. I didn't do anything special, I wore my glary ass glasses out, I even forgot to wash my hair before I left. I barely got any time to talk to this cashier since the place was so busy, but I could clearly see her eye fucking me on my way out. Even if I wasn't all that into her, that look she gave me was so raw that I can't self depreciate like how I used to anymore. It's a strange feeling, cause I thought I'd feel happier, but it's more like I saw Bigfoot and now I have to believe in everything. I have no choice but to test the limits, right? How do I keep that momentum when there's a girl I actually have to go up to instead of one that I'm expected to talk to (cashier, etc)?
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>>33923698
>Looking for any advice on how to push things forward (get a kiss, be romantic, etc.).
Here's a corny trick - tell her you can read her future from her palm. Take her hand, touch her here and there, but tell her, you can't actually read future and just needed and excuse to touch her hand.

Or better yet, just invite her over and make a move
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>>33927018
>Hey, let's grab a coffee on Thursday, 7pm, at X
>Hey, I'm busy, how about next week?
>Alright, Tuesday, same place, same time?
>Sure
It's that easy
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>>33929474
I don't know, it's because she's been vague and doesn't tells me days she's free in specific, she said "probably" on the weekend which to me sounds like a maybe date.
So now it's in the air, to the days I suggested she only said she would let me know when she's free, so to me that means "no". If she wanted she would've said yes to saturday at 7 as she suggested.
Last convo
>Sure, let me know when you are free
>Also if your agenda is too complicated when can do it in another time, no problem
>Okayyy
>hugh sticker
If I hear from her, I'll assume she's figured out her schedule and ask her out.
If I don't, I'll wait 1 - 2 weeks to ask her out again
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>>33929786
I don't usually have problems asking women on definite dates, but I kinda recognize when they are not comital, flakey and vague
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>>33929580
A look from a service employee isnt enough to go off of but honestly if its inspiring you to be confident and try new things then go for it, king
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>>33929994
It was about as explicit of a message as you could get with how she looked at me. It was because it was so real, she looked at me like she hoped I'd come back and see her again. It's less about that specific situation, I guess, and more about the fact that normal me when I'm not trying can actually be attractive to someone. I've always tried to convince myself that it's incorrect, and now I have hard evidence for the contrary. I'm just worried that I'm gonna see an opportunity to talk to a girl that I find super cute and then get stabbed by that invisible spear that freezes me in place again. It's a lot different going up to a girl that wasn't expecting to talk to someone new, and I don't really want to wait for the "perfect" moment when I finally go to a party or a similar event again
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>>33920846
>Be me, man trying to date women online.
>Profile #1: "I like Harry Potter and Sushi, buy me things."
>I unmatched her
>Profile #2: "I'm a Christian"
>I ask her what it means to her to be a Christian
>She says "You'know, I've never really thought about it"
>We unmatched
>Profile #3: Nose ring and lists of mental illnesses
>We don't even match in the first place
>Profile #4: "I hate the modern world and most things in it, but I still go out to clubs and party with friends I don't like because I'm afraid of being alone"
>I tell her "Why don't you try to find better friends with healthier hobbies?"
>We Unmatched
>Profile #5: I open with a shitty pick up line and try to ease into real conversation, she seems engaged, then I ask her "So what kind of plans do you have for your life?" To which she says "I don't know"
>We unmatched
>Profile #6: Pretty much the same as #5, but when I ask her what her values are and if she would ever want kids she says "Not yet, I just want to travel and party."
>We unmatched
Why are women so God Damn unscrupulous? It's like they legitimately don't care about anything at all, nor think about their lives in any capacity. I'm losing my find trying to find a single woman who can actually communicate, has personal principles, can hold a fucking conversation, and maybe isn't a total moron?
Like ya, they hate hookup culture, but they engaged in all the shallow materialistic things they hate with no regard as to that behavior being the root of their problems.
What the fuck am I even supposed to do when women just don't take relationships seriously in any capacity?
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>>33930252
>Be me, man trying to date women online.
You're retarded
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Anyways had an OK date yesterday
>Intense eye contact
>She talked 80% of the time
>She leaned over the table the whole time
>I remained aloof the whole date
>End of the date whe kissed at my car
>Thought she would end the kiss soon but the was really kissing me
>She said we should do it another time
>Played it cool and just said Sure
>Said goodbye and left
While she's educated, cute and we share similar family values, I'm still don't see it her more than a 6.5 (personally)
Let's see what happens
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>>33930252
Lmao youre supposed to just flirt and have a fun time when you matched. Not grill them like its a job interview.
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>>33930267
It sucks when I make rookie mistakes with girls I have a higher attraction level, but with girls I have OK attraction level it's easier
Why didn't I play it cool like this with the chick I liked better? Why the f did I try the set the next date the same day? Fuck. Just a bit frustrated and venting a bit here. Good luck bros.
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>>33930253
Yes, I suppose that was my first mistake. But I don't see how I can really meet people these days outside of apps, the odds of running into somebody is exponentially harder, and even then they still think and act in the same ways as they do online.

>>33930272
Asking real genuine questions used to be pretty normal. It's just that women fear that level of intimacy because they don't have any morals.
I'm supposed to spend hours of my time talking about trivial mundane shit that is typically hedonistic and materialistic, all to find out that She Doesn't Even Want Kids in the First Fucking Place?
Tell me, why should I waste my time with women who don't share my values?
They don't even put their values in their fucking bios, because all they want to do is party and fuck around.
You're proving my point, because you're encouraging this behavior.
I don't want a fucking cheap lay, I want a wife.
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>>33930267
She just texted me lol
>Hello :)
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>>33930321
Nah he's right you're acting like a clown. Go hang out with muslims or indians or wherever they do arranged marriages and look for a wife that way. Sounds more up your alley.
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>>33930500
>You're telling me you don't want to sleep around and engage in cheap sex with women you'll never speak to again in your life, and you think this is a bad thing? What are you gay?
>No dude, wanting children is bad actually, you should be waiting until your 30
>Cmon bro, just take a hit, have a drink, your not some kind of Prude or something are you?

Insanity is looking at how dysfunctional the world is today and deciding against all evidence to Promulgate the very behaviors that are leading us to live such vapid and unfulfilling lives.
You don't need to join some religious nut-house to want to engage in objectively healthier behaviors.
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>>33930321
Have you tried the pic related approach?
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>>33930514
>match with a girl
>flirt over texts while you set up a date for later in the week
>meet her during the date and sus put these questions in person when you can actually have a nuanced interaction
The crazy part is that you dont have to pay for her food or coffee or whatever, and you also dont have to have sex or smoke weed with her on the spot. Its insane I know.
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>>33930553
I'm not grilling these women dude, I do the flirting shit, I do the small talk, but the moment I ask even a small relevant question in the conversation it's like their brains just turn off or something.
I'm not opening every conversation with:
>"So how many babies do you want to have?"
Usually they'll mention something about their niece/nephew or being around kids, and when the topic of that particular discussion is ended I'll ask
>"Do you see yourself having kids?"
And the answer is usually No, or Not Yet, if they even answer at all.
This used to be relationship 101, now people are treating me like some sperg for even asking it.
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>>33930570
But this is what I'm saying dude, we cant even get to that point because all they want to do is go to a club or party.
I'd love to maybe go hiking with a chick to get to know her, but hell, half of them are overweight and can't even get up out of their chairs without a noticeable effort.
Go check out their profiles for yourself man, most of them will say:
>Don't want kids
And ya, I don't have many people in my area, so I'm kinda forced to look for long distance. I acknowledge this is bad, but I dont have many options.
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21 and 31, yay or nay?
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I don't even get replies to my messages on hinge, it's not like i send dry messages like hi hey, I ask genuine questions based on their profiles.
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>>33930666
It's because most women have a Roster. You matched with them, but so did 100 other men. Now you're in a Que where she's only going to reply to you after she's run through the other 99 guys in her DMs.
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>>33930688
Man it's been a month
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>>33930688
And the only time I was shown interest, it was a fake profile.
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>>33930688
I'm willing to put in effort, but I should get a response back to do so.
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>>33930599
What app are you using? Id recommend hinge if youre not already on it since people tend to put their best foot forward and are way more transparent about what they want. Also age range helps too, idk how old you are or what youre looking for but women on these apps who are <25 tend to be there to fool around and not do anything serious, whereas women >25 tend to be in the boat where they find it hard to meet men irl bit would otherwise want to have a long term relationship.
>inb4 old toasties "ready to settle down now"
This is definitely an archetype but dont conflate it with respectable women who cant find dates. Honestly theyre in the same boat as we are a lot of the time
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>>33930710
>>inb4 old toasties "ready to settle down now"
I agree, and I'm not concerned too much about age. However, a woman beyond the age of 30 covered in tattoos (as most are) and piercings should be handled with caution.
I have my age Filters set for 20-31, I'm 26 for context. I prefer the chicks closer to my age typically, but who knows.
>What app are you using?
I started off trying to use Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, etc. But they were all trash, pretty much all party girls with nothing going on upstairs, and I couldn't use filters to help select for people more aligned with me.
I'm currently using EHarmony and Duolicious, the former has a lot of filters that make things easier, and people can add a lot more description to their account (Which most women don't).
Duolicious has to filter through a lot of mentally ill people, but there are a few reasonable chicks on there, they are just a bit neurotic.
Aside from that I feel like I've exhausted all my option. Probably gonna get a rock climbing membership and just embrace being single forever at this point because chicks only really care about abortion and eating Mcdonalds it feels like.
I've matched with probably two dozen women so far, just none of them really commit, and I'm sure that most of them have me on a roster just like >>33930688
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>>33930688
Add beta orbiters from work, IG, Facebook, Tinder and exes
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>>33920846
Met a girl at an event. She was there with her aunt, and after a while the aunt told me to look at how beautiful her niece is (she’s 23). We talked for a bit, and she was laughing at my jokes, but since it was a work-related event, I couldn’t really flirt properly. Before the event ended, she asked me for my “professional” Instagram.

Now I’m wondering — should I text her, or does she just seem not that interested? Also wtf do i say? it's been 4 days
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>>33930744
You could start by saying hi, as lame as that sounds. I really have no other context here to assume you have any reason to talk to her with plausible deniability. And frankly sometimes you just need to be forward about it. Say hi and maybe ask her how she's doing. Try to get to get to know her like you would IRL and try flirting how you would've in person
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>>33930744
text her, tell her you're the guy she talked to at that event
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>>33930744
Just say
>Hey X, when are you free to get a cup of coffee?
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>>33930792
>>33930794
Well she was with her aunt the whole time, laughing at my jokes etc, she even showed me a pic of her car and it was a selfie pic with her being dressed sexy but at other times she was just silent and distant so it wasn't clear she was interested. Also are 5 days without sending her anything too late?

>>33930836
The problem is that she lives an hour away from here.
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>>33930916
No just fucking send it. You literally have nothing to lose at this point
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>>33920846
Where can I meet women when all I do is lift after work during the week and most of my friends (I’m 27) aren’t really going out anymore. I want a gym girl but idk how to start a convo with them at the gym without being creepy
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>>33931031
Apps
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>>33930956
My dignity?
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>>33931047
I’ve tried that. It hasn’t worked at all
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What is the right balance between talking a lot or talking a little with a woman?

If you talk too much, the mystery that attracts her will disappear.

If you talk too little, she won't know anything about you to be attracted to you.
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>>33930956
This
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>>33931138
what if she ghosts?
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>>33931066
>If they don’t want to be with me, I don’t want to be with them
Here’s a mindset that helped change my view on that.
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>>33931180
Then you can stop worrying about her and focus on the next girl.
>>33931069
Oke go say hi to the girls at the gym then.
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How do I get my first rimjob?
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>>33930688
This makes irl approach sound so much more appealing. Every girl has hundreds of guys on her phone. How many have had the balls to talk to her in person?
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>>33931180
Then you forget about her and meet new girls
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>>33921114
>Twice she brought me bread in the morning, and one time she told me she’d thrown up earlier that day. That felt surprisingly personal, like she trusted me.

That's tenuous. Comfortable, maybe. Trust is stronger.

You should try flirting with her and gauge her response. Don't go overtly sexual, ie: nice ass. Try complimenting her if you genuinely like something about her presentation, or some double entendre.
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>got a cute fwb
>kinda paranoid she will get other partners and will get an std or has one
Im using condoms of course, but what do i do? The advice ive seen says just keep it wrapped and enjoy it while it lasts. I feel like asking would just jeoporadize us being fwbs the same way asking for a relationship would, she'd be like wtf do you care? She is pretty nice though
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>>33931291
>How many have had the balls to talk to her in person?
About as many guys that have come to this exact same idiotic conclusion.
Every female either has a roster, or has no contacts whatsoever, and you're not going to see the latter variety in public life.
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>>33932001
So you’re just talking straight blackpill bullshit. Real life is not the internet.
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>>33932049
I'm speaking from my experience online and in person. Promiscuity has devalued us all, we're all living in the hell of that behavior. It's precisely because I've slept around a lot that I am black pilled.
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Are dating apps a good idea? People tell me I'm good looking but I have no clue where to go to meet women.
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>>33931809
Keep it wrapped
Get tested a least once a year
Get the HPV vaccine if possible
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>>33932241
So, you acted like a whore and therefore see only whores. Stop fucking giving “advice” to other men that there is no hope just because you swung your dick into every strange and act like that means in the entire fucking world there is nothing left with meaning.
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>>33932273
>are they good
No
>are they a good idea
Yes

They generally suck, but use them anyway because its like idle farming dates if you do it right (good pics and profile info) and helps you practice texting and dating. Just dont solely rely on it
>>33932278
All done, I guess Ill just keep enjoying destroying her while I can
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>>33932241
I'm not gonna say you're lying but from my personal experience this is not true at all. Out of all the girls I've slept with (no small amount), I think only two were actual whores with high body counts. Most girls didn't really seem to enjoy sleeping around at all and just preferred to have one guy. Maybe you're just hanging around with total sluts?
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>>33932273
They're good if you follow rules 1&2 to any extent. Of course, you have to expect lots of flakes, times when there are no matches coming it, the works. But ultimately you're just sitting at home waiting for a match, so it's low effort anyway
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>>33932874
Seriously. This is why i called him a blackpilled asshole. The vast majority of girls are not that. They can’t escape their biology. They desperately need and want just one guy…just one guy.
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>>33932892
What is the meta for finding a girlfriend at the mall?
I go out pretty often but the dating app is always the fallback because there is no interaction at bars/clubs/etc
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kill women
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>>33933158
only after society has collapsed enough to avoid scrutiny and then you might as well rape the attractive ones
alas there are too many shabbos goyim to see such a just reality in my time
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>>33932755
>Ill just keep enjoying destroying her while I can
Enjoy
I'll enjoy destroying my fwb on saturday;)
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>>33933065
>What is the meta for finding a girlfriend at the mall?
I just do dating apps, more time/cost effective. With matches on the apps you can assume there's at least some semblance of interest. WIth real life approach, you better be confident and charismatic and be able to take lots of rejections. Not saying you shouldn't do it, but it takes a lot of luck
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okay boys i think ive deduced it. i hit off with girls who read books the most. im highly stimulated by conversation, and they seem to want to talk to me about how ketchup is made.

i was on medication that killed all of my romantic interest during my teens so now im playing catchup. ive been progressively looksmaxxing. should be good.
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>>33933648
bonus points for ptsd/cptsd. theyre just like me, low self esteem, dont care about anything, dont believe in concepts like a just world.
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>>33933648
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Just got rejected, bros
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>>33934007
Good. Move on and don't beg. Never contact again
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>>33934019
Not even as friends? I got her number
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>>33934052
No. Never
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how should i ask the contact of this girl that works near me? How do you think would be a nice way that doesnt sounds like a creep? Were not totally strangers i work as a cashier on a market and she comes there often and i did went to her store a few time too so we changed few words
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>>33932714
I didn't see a problem with that behavior until I stopped and everyone else kept engaging with it as if pre marital sex was healthy or normal.
Mercy me, god forbid I try to talk morality from transparently discussing my sins.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is far more difficult then any other period in history, because everyone engages with this shit and thinks it's healthy and normal, and they're not, and neither was I.

>>33932874
Even normal girls have +2 body counts these days. I'd like to engage with women who aren't total whores, but I can't find them online or apps, and I can't seem to find them in person, because again, it is becoming more common to be promiscuous.
I agree my experience is bad, I just have no idea where to meet women who have more personal goals in mind, like starting a family, or trying to find a life partner.

>>33932919
You don't think the reason the majority of women advocate for abortion is because they sleep around and see a need for it?
If you honestly think that this point in history is somehow better or equal than any other point in history, you're delusional.
It is harder to find committed partners these days than ever before, nd while I agree decent women exist, they are harder to find than ever before.
So I ask again, where do you go to find such women who are actually healthy and capable of commitment? Because if you can't provide an answer, your perspective is worthless.
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>>33920887
Holy based, I kneel
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>>33920846
Best places in New York to find a Asian gf?
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>>33931241
Girls eat butt. Is she your girlfriend? Are you guys 'official'? Do you do sexually gradifying actions to her?
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How does one ask a woman out? What is the process, what is said, and how do you find success? I'm autistic and need examples that work
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>>33934052
Why would you?
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>>33934395
By phone or in person?
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>>33934395
>are you free to grab coffee this weekend?
Then she either says yes or she doesn't.
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>>33934444
That puts them on the defensive. Instead say what you want.
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>>33934452
Miss me with that pua bullshit buddy.
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>>33934395
You are trying to walk before you even know how to crawl. Learn to body language before you start opening your mouth. If you can get girls to smile back at you without you losing your shit and spending the rest of the day fantasizing about marrying her, then you might be ready to start talking.
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>>33934452
Yeah that's what makes a woman feel most like she wants to meet up with you, pressure
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>>33932892
What are rules 1&2?
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>>33934575
1. Be attractive
2. Dont be unattractive
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>>33934452
Then ask what days are you available this week first
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>>33934196
Can you explain why?
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>>33934700
Or just say you want to take them out, and have something specific.
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Does anyone else hold off on kissing a girl until you know whether she has herpes?
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>>33934735
You said she rejected you, why do you want to pursue someone who doesn't want you?
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>>33934756
I'm not going to. I'm just bored.
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>>33934746
The very first time I got a BJ, we woke up the next morning, and she had a blister on her lip
I was freaking out
Got every medical test I could
Guilted her into covering half my medical bills
When the tests came back negative, I dumped her
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>>33934746
Cold sores are visibly apparent.
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>>33934746
No, because you have more than likely been exposed to it a dozen times already and if you didn’t catch it then, you won’t ever catch it. You have to be an immunelet to actually get the sores.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMenAdvice/s/tgRNCXaqG8

Why do men go on Reddit and say gay shit like this? And why do women eat it up? It’s like how suddenly age gaps became demonic within the last 5 years, now we have to pretend to be platonic friends with women? How much harm is reddit doing to the perception of men?

>ERM I HAVE TONS OF SMOKING HOT FUCKABLE FEMALE FRIENDS BUT THEYRE LIKE LITTLE SISTERS AND ITS GROSS TO WANT TO FUCK THEM
>Dozens of upvotes

I have never had a woman friend I didn’t want to bury my cock into, even if she was ugly. Why can no one just be honest? Why do people need to virtue signal?
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>>33934822
Reddit is a Skinner box. Don't worry about it.
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>>33934855
It is something to worry about
These attitudes permeate beyond the skinner box
a lot of people finding themselves alone full of regret
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How do I learn small talk? Theres this girl i want to know better but i suck at keeping a conversation it usually goes like
>its damn cold/hot today
>her answer
>the weather here is crazy changing all the time
>her answer
And done i dont know what else to talk even if the girl is a good talker and not the type who give short answers to kill the conversation, how should I proceed? Maybe ask about her since i dont know nothing but I feel that might sound too intimate or i might be bothering her
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>>33934855
A lot of impressionable young women see stuff like that thread and take it to heart.

Look at how demonized age gaps have suddenly become
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>>33920846
> be me
> 31yo
> fit, eat clean, dress aight
> millionaire software fag
> normies can smell my spectrum from miles away
> no friends no gf
I need autistic anons to say something. Normies don't know that feel and can't help
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>>33935001
It really doesn’t matter what women think.
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>>33934992
>Theres this girl i want to know better
Why would you want that?
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>>33935032
Shes my type
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>>33935010
Teach me how to be a millionaire and I’ll teach you how to get women
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>>33935041
Then ask her out.
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>>33935053
I barely know her, hence why i need to know her better before doing so
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>>33935058
Stop complicating things. Just ask her out.
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>>33935066
Im NOT going out with someone i dont know
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>>33935073
Stay single then. I don’t care.
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>>33935078
I never said i want to her to be my gf either why are making fanfics in your head?
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>>33935083
>she’s my type
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>>33935086
Shes pretty and i want to know her, anything past that depends on knowing her
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>>33935047
First you'll need to forsake everything beside food, water, sleep and exercise. That part comes naturally if you're autistic because no one wants to hang out with you.

Then you spend all your time obsessively learning how to use a computer and you start developing your first web app or game (the web part is important because people need to be able to see your shit).

You spend enough years in Plato's cave doing this and then you apply to the software jew megacorpos with links to your shit and get a decent wage.

Since you have no friends you basically have the same lifestyle as a NEET, so everything goes into savings account/stock portfolio.

There you have it, how to get rich by being a miserable autist
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>>33935104
And you can get to know her on a date.
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>>33935112
I can do that just talking with her and not needing to make compromises like dating
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>>33935119
>I can do that just talking with her
Hahahaha. No you literally can’t since your original post is about your inability to do that.
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>>33935027
It does though

>>33935107
Eh I want to be one quicker than years of effort. If you really are having a tough time with women, just hire hot escorts. Or hire me to be like Hitch.
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>>33935128
That why im asking for help, you also need to know how to talk for a date so your idea is also not the optimal here
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>>33935132
>person asks for help lifting a car
>offers them a jack
>I DIDN’T ASK FOR A JACK, I ASKED FOR HELP LIFTING A CAR
>turn 360 and walk away
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>>33935131
I've been coping using escorts occasionally
It's better than nothing at all but it's still cope
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>>33935135
What does that even mean? I need to talk in a date and i need to talk with her to ask her out so eitherway i need to learn conversation skills
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>>33935141
Asking someone out does not require conversation skills. And guess what, if she accepts then whatever conversation happens on the date starts with the baseline that she likes you. And if she likes you, you can talk about whatever the hell you want to,
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>>33935136
I would give you all my advice but I’m not doing it for free unfortunately. You’re a millionaire, you’ll figure it out
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>>33935136
Look, if you’re like deep millionaire rich, you can just hire yourself a social manager/assistant.
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>>33935155
>augh h-h-hello, w-w-wanna *stutters* go out?
Nice way to get your ass kicked or laught at
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>>33935157
As I said I need the help of another autist because normie advice doesn't work on us
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>>33935167
I will once again refer you to >>33935078
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>>33935174
I’m on /adv/, in what world do you think I’m a normie? I’m just attractive and don’t look or carry myself like a nerd and it works for me. I’m not a shut in NEET, but I’m an autist about a lot of stuff for sure. Saying you can’t be helped is dooming yourself but ok!
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>>33935162
> you can just hire yourself a social manager/assistant
Yes of course but you can't pay people into liking you, which really sucks because I would have done so long ago.

I deliberately pick escorts that are all business, just fuck and don't pretend to like me because a side effect of autism is a very low tolerance for fakeness
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>>33920846
How do I find older women (above/around 25) with a high sex drive?
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>>33935192
Sure, but you can have yourself a personal assistant that sets up an entire social life for you.
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>>33935189
>I’m just attractive
Congrats, although I didn't looksmax everything I already put a reasonable amount of effort into this stat, including surgeries.

I identified the issue as being a very strong strain of autism, the kind that can make you rich but also very unlikeable.

Elon Musk is the prime example of what I'm talking about
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>>33935218
Are you dumb? Elon Musk has 16 children with some of the hottest women on Earth and millions of people who love him/say he’s a good boss/etc

I’m definitely not wasting anymore time, it would be wasted on you if you already decided to self diagnose and my help is valuable
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>>33933486
I assume I am confident well above the average but from where I draw confidence from being work doesn't seem to translate to occasioning women
I need to know how to bridge the gap because women seem very schizophrenic when I do anything beyond the scope of a dating app
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>>33935228
> Elon Musk has 16 children
He has more, including multiple in vitro with women he's never had sex with.

The vast majority of those procreated the natural way were through extremely transactional intercourse with employees.

You are selling help without having shown any sign of your competence to someone who's been asked financial help hundreds of time, you must be very attractive if you fuck despite this lack of self awareness
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>>33935243
It’s a numbers game. They’re either going to like you or not, and you just keep asking until you find one that likes you.
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>>33935228
Musk doesn't have a harem he pays a few of his employees to in vitro his sperm and co-parent with him. I'd say a quarter of his kids at most were conceived with actual sex.
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>>33935248
He’s been married twice, and the women he’s had more children with were in longer relationships. Grimes never came out and said he was a bad guy, for example. Is money a factor? Sure, but if you notice none of these women come out and talk badly about it him, he fucks around for fun and pumps babies out and enjoys life.

>You are selling help without having shown any sign of your competence to someone who's been asked financial help hundreds of time, you must be very attractive if you fuck despite this lack of self awareness

We’re on an anonymous Tibetan basket weaving forum, my autistic friend. I have no idea what you even look like, which would be where I would start with the advice. I could and would help you, but the barriers need to come down and you need to accept people know better than you do, even about yourself at times.

>>33935257
Are you gonna turn into a samefag on me now too?
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>>33935199
The gym girls
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>>33935262
Thanks anon but I think I have give more value to you by just telling my boring tale of how autists become engineers than you have given me by teasing your services

I'm glad you're successful in that dimension, and I genuinely hope you'll get as successful in your money making skills
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>>33935304
Enjoy the escorts then
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>>33935314
Thanks, I do but it's not the point. Take care anon
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How do I talk to women without feeling like an anxious boring weirdo that's just wasting their time until they find an excuse to leave and gossip about how a mouthbreathing retard tried to interact with them?
I figured putting myself out there would be the best way it really hasn't changed my anxiety level at all.
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>>33935348
Can’t help you to stop hating yourself.
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>>33935357
Lame
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>>33935348
assume of attitude of careful misogyny
Women know intuitively they need to be subjugated and beaten if necessary
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>>33935398
The fuck are you talking about that sounds insane
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>>33935404
I know
blame neo liberal feminists for cultivating such a sick and depraved world
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>>33935348
> anxious
> boring
> weirdo
> mouthbreathing retard
People hate people who hate themselves.

If you smear yourself with your own shit, people will see it and smell it, and they'll throw some more shit at you because you've advertised yourself as a human toilet.

You need to stop doing this, however most of us are in the same boat, so if we knew how we wouldn't be here
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>>33935422
The secret is to love yourself but hate your life because your life is ordinarily beyond your ability to change significantly
So when people arbitrarily decide that you must also hate yourself you can torture them cartel style
Don't ask me why women like sodomy and horrendous violence for I do not know the answer
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Unfortunately you seem to be dealing with the same self esteem issue I am. I hope it works out, ask her out on a lunch date. Its low stakes for both of you.
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>>33935450
You the post next time otherwise you are gaslighting anons to bait glowies into death traps
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>>33927224
Ended up sending a mix of check your schedule and hit me up with the takeaway
She said sure and two days later (today) invited me sushi
;)
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>>33935286
How do u talk to them with no introduction?

>>33935010
Same predicament actually but not millionaire but trying to build my company

>>33934357
What is the appeal of girls eating your ass? My buddy does this shit

>>33931228
How do I randomly talk to them at the gym without looking weird or creepy
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>>33935556
The horny ones are the ones that lift weights btw not the cardiobunnies. Doesn't have to be at the gym they will 90% of the time put it in their dating profile.
The girls at your gym you have to build slowly just start with eye contact while walking past into hi s into small talk but you have to be non autistic.
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>>33935556
> Same predicament actually but not millionaire but trying to build my company
Based. Beware of the normies who will inevitably try to take your shit because they can't create.
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>>33935010
You're a self-proclaimed millionaire, so clearly you shouldn't have a reason to not just figure it out at some point. Pay someone to figure it out for you if it's too much. Quit your job and lock yourself in a room for a year until you're ripped, literally do anything but ask what 4chan thinks you should do.
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>>33920846
There seems to be two types of women.
>A.) Bleeding heart liberals, who are polyamorous and support LGBT Satanism
>B.) White supremacists who want to exterminate me because I'm Asian
How do I find a woman who is not a woke retard but also isn't racist towards me (but racism towards negroids or kikes is fine)?
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>>33935639
>Find me a racist woman that wants to fuck an Asian guy
Can't help you there. You should start by deleting all of the frogs on every device you have
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>>33935645
The frogs stay.
And I did actually manage to get a based and racist gf who made an exception for my peoples. Although she ended up dumping me after 2,5 years.
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>>33935648
You dated a chick that "made an exception for Asians"? Are you surprised that she ended up ditching you? Any woman that's actually into Asian guys is going to turn tail when she finds out that you think she secretly hates or pities you.
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>>33935656
So what do I do? I don't want a cuck relationship with some bisexual niggerlover.
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>>33935639
Have you considered dating an Asian woman you brainless retard?
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>>33935660
How about you get over the fact that you're Asian? You can't change that, and the longer you cling to those frogs, the worse off you're gonna be in the future. Please tell me you're under 30
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>>33935667
Oh, I would, but there are barely any in my country. The few that are around seem to only date men of other races.
>>33935669
I am over that. The problem is that the majority of people here hate me for my race and the few that don't are turboliberals who have a load of problems of their own.
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>>33935678
>I am over that
No you're not. You believe it's the main reason on why women aren't into you. They're either retarded leftists or they're heckin based racists that also hate Asians because, guess what, they're racist. You cling to the belief that if only you weren't who you were, maybe girls would be into you. I could cry on here for the rest of my life because I'm short, and everyone in this thread would be right for calling me a faggot. So I'm calling you a faggot.
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>>33935678
>The problem is that the majority of people here hate me for my race

Let me guess, you're "Asian" AKA Indian.
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>>33935685
I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he's Indian I get it, he's fucked.
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>>33935638
> You have money so you can buy anything
Not how it works unfortunately.

Also being a millionaire in the software industry is really not a big deal. Lots of people are.
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>>33935575
Yeah I’m not into cardio bunnies more just wheyfu types. What’s your experience with it? Girls who lift and not cardio broads

>>33935630
I’ve noticed that I’m a black sheep w/ friends since they are 9-5ers and they rag on me for what I do kek but fuck it
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>>33935682
It... actually is the main reason why they're not into me.
I've been called racial slurs to my face my entire life. I've overheard girls' conversations about me. I have always been The Other. I am never my own person, I have always just been The Yellow Man. People have always seen me race-first.
In school, in the army, at work. I have never been anything other than the Token Asian Guy. I had never been given a chance to show anything but that.
Constantly belittled, bullied. Fucking people RANDOMLY PICKING ME UP FOR NO REASON. Calling me a dog-eater, or a commie, or a spy.
You know what, anon? Fuck you.
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>>33935685
>>33935687
No, East Asian. But not the kind everyone likes. No, I'm a Chinaman. The race you're socially allowed to make fun of.
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>>33935688
>Other people are millionaires so I can't find success socially
I obviously don't need to ask if you're retarded, so what I mean is that you don't have to worry about being broke AND having no social skills. Money can't buy you happiness or a good social life, but it can grease the wheels for whatever the hell you want to do. You're gonna have to sacrifice your time if you want social skills. I don't know what advice you want other than "fail with people socially until you get better".
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>>33935693
Do you live in a cartoon? It's a fucked up existence, but you're gonna have to drop that resentment in order to feel any better at all.
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>>33923854
I peeked ahead and you're probably not going to like the next one either
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>>33935699
Checked

Why does this simple sentence got so many of you mindbroken: money doesn't solve everything.

Thanks for your input.
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>>33935704
It gets even worse, I just don't have the heart to talk about it here.
Living like this, how could I not be resentful?
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>>33935747
You’re always welcome to go back home.
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>>33935747
So do you want me to tell you that your life is over and you should just kill yourself, or do you want the truth. It's blatantly obvious that you need to drop the idea that your life is never going to get better, or else you're gonna live the rest of your life wanting to kill yourself. You obviously don't want to, or you would've done it by now, so you can either continue to lay in the dirt or you can claw your way out. There's really nothing else to it
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>>33935693
Ah well. At least you're not an Asian woman. Truly repulsive creatures, but maybe I just haven't met the good Asian women yet
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>>33935749
I have no home which to return to. I was born in this country, only speak the language here, only have citizenship here.
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>>33935759
Do you have any actionable steps with which I can, as you say, claw my way out?
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>>33935852
foment sectarian unrest
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Do you have to have friends in order to get a girlfriend?
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>>33935905
Looksmatch notfat metrics



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