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Lets discuss animals that could have existed, animals that might exist somewhere or animals that might exist in the future.
Where might evolution take the human race?
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You can read all tomorrows right here http://www.sivatherium.narod,ru/library/Ramjet/01_en,htm (replace the commas with periods)
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>>2452402
A planet where life never evolved membranes so that the whole ocean is one continuous organism. Is that even remotely possible?
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>>2452415

truly the worst hell.
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>>2452402
we already have this thread
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Assuming the other thread is at it's image limit..

For those who make their own species, how do you come with naming them? I've had one for over a decade and I still haven't come up with a name I like or suits them and now that I'm really trying to nail them down and flesh them out better it's driving me nuts. I want something akin to wolf, bear, deer, etc something short in syllables and sound just as natural. So far I've been taking Latin words and words from other languages, try to shorten them and switch around.
Might be more of a /tg/ question and I'd post a pic of them but I'm not at home but they're basically big hairless gorilla-crocodile-eel-ground sloths.
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>>2452414
Probably not.
Nor would it be all one organism if it were possible.
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>>2452457
You mean like their scientific name?
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>>2452414
Expedition has that amoebic sea which is a really cool idea

the version in the book where its basically one titanic colonial organism is way better than the one in the "alien planet" tv show where its just a living membrane around a regular sea
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>>2452457
stupidus faggaholicus
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>>2452407
benis
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I like to see what kind of bizarre things people come up with. Most of the time I just laugh at their monstrosities and look for their flaws though.
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>>2452587
this guy has a neck cock fetish
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>>2452457
Oh, good name is almost a half of the work. It is rather easy to outline the features of species knowing its possible ancestor from the number of modern animals and the trends of evolution. And the good name is really a problem. It must be rather easily pronouncing. Also I try to use for my invented lifeforms any words of folks living now in area of future existance of this species.
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>>2452415
Are those mouths or vaginas?
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>>2452587
Ill make aome creatures on spore if I get a chance.
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>>2452402
How about a human analog that wasn't a total piece of shit. Now THAT'S speculative biology.
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>>2452415
me on the left
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>>2452674
Mouths.
The little round holes are the vaginas
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>>2452402
>Earth but vertebrates developed 3 pairs of legs (basically an excuse for 6-limbed dragons)

>A large, marine amphibian (which existed in the Triassic) that evolved into a filter feeder using their internal gills.

>The aquatic sloth Thalassocnus survived and became fully (or at least majorly) adapted as a marine grazer.
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>>2453228
>Could have happened, we have lobefinned fish with 3 pairs of lobes

>Possible

>weren't thalassocnus already marine grazers?
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>>2453367
>weren't thalassocnus already marine grazers?
I mean more than they were, like if they became like herbivorous seals, or even like manatees.
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Does inferno count as specbio?
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>>2453530
I would say no. Dope creature design though.

>>2452694
Source? Context?
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>>2452457
Teag
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>>2453185
Is the one on the right performing felatio then?
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>>2453894
Don't listen to him, the holes are where the dicks come out. The slits ARE the chynas.
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>>2452429
Worse than the Hell of the Upside Down Sinners?
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>>2452457
I've never really named anything. Though if I ever start I'd just look up latin, greek, and roman words that best describe it's features.
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>>2452587
Well here's something old of mine.
The biped comes from hexapods, with the forelimbs becoming mandibles.
In the background is a ground based glider that is able to run fast enough to glide across the plains saving some energy when migrating over it's planet's long stretches of land.
The quadruped below only has one orifice. It poops like a bird through the "anus" at the tip of it's tongue.
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>>2454141
>The quadruped below only has one orifice. It poops like a bird through the "anus" at the tip of it's tongue.

mein gott
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>>2453780
It's art done by H.G wells about Mars wildlife. here is the source http://io9.gizmodo.com/h-g-wells-remarkable-scientific-article-about-evolut-1583255122?IR=T. there was another image too.
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>>2454163
H.G wells is very underrated
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>>2454287
Yes, that is very true.
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>>2452596
That's what you get from a utopia-obsessed hipster.
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>>2454293
I never got that impression from kosmen
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>>2454293
>>2454638
Yeah... what the fuck is he talking about?
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>>2452414
probably not since membranes are incredibly important in maintaining favorable chemical environments inside
I have no idea how cell-less life would even function, it would be molecular anarchy
though you could probably have a colony ocean, even though I think the density couldn't be thermodynamically justified, that's a lot of fucking cells you're talking about
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It would be neat with some sort of group-based octopus that managed to develop intelligence and rudimentary land capability, and have them congregate in areas with many shallows, where they can do basic metalsmithing and woodcutting and firemaking above water, but mainly live in the water. It would be a comfy scene with some little tribe that managed to find a secluded position near the shoreline and put up a border fence that went between microscopic islands, guarding themselves from marine predators and keeping flocks of herd-fish inside, and with fire pits/forges on islands inside the enclosment operated by octopi sticking their heads and a few tentacles out of the water, since wet environments are much more pleasant at this stage in their evolution. I think I'll draw it some day.
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>>2454798
You still have to deal with the water corroding the iron tools they make way faster than if they were on land.
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>>2454798
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>>2452434
Where?
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>>2454163
I see. Thank you.

>>2454287
Agreed. The guy pretty much invented speculative evolution and some of his ideas still holds up.

>>2454141
Nice. Very barlowe-esque.

>>2454798
I dunno about the metallurgy thing but otherwise it sounds kewl.
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>>2454141
>>2454151
That... that means it also gives birth and fucks through its mouth.
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>>2454163
>http://io9.gizmodo.com/h-g-wells-remarkable-scientific-article-about-evolut-1583255122?IR=T.
Thank you very much for this link!
This article had been translated into Russian in 2013, but here we see original illustrations to it, and it's very good!
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>>2453958
>>2453185
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>>2452415
Do those things even have more than one sex?
I always assumed they were hermaphrodites, probably because it would kinda fit.
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>>2452402
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>Where might evolution take the human race?
humans are going to be less intelligent because niggers outbreed cumskins and asians
because 1st word helps niggers
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>>2452414
"where life". Life is division, life is order, order is division. Membranes are so important for life.
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Life in Earth is so fucking important and strange, I don't understand why you want to create new pseudo-animals. Nature always tries to be as simple as it can, in fact cells are circular and not squares.

>Anyway, a strange animal could be a plant who reproduces itself by some worms produced inside the tree that when they leave the tree, they search a place water-nearby under the ground to die and grow up another tree where they died.
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>>2455348
>Anyway, a strange animal could be a plant who reproduces itself by some worms produced inside the tree that when they leave the tree, they search a place water-nearby under the ground to die and grow up another tree where they died.

Sounds like it could be some advance Tunicate that has adapted a way to use photosynthesizing microbes, and uses its juvenile stage as a means to propagate.
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>>2454708
don't know
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>>2452674
Does it matter?
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>>2455624
yes
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R8 my pitch pls.

>a "realistic" sea serpent
>that is, a biologically plausible creature that is responsible for many victorian-era sea serpent sightings but is now extinct or dangerously close to extinct in the 21st century because overfishing by humans wiped out its food supply

>creature is not an eel or a reptile but in fact a giant marine salamander that can grow up to perhaps 60 meters in length, though at most only weighing 3 tonnes due to its very thin profile
>like the much smaller axolotl the beast remains in its larval state its entire life retaining its bright red external gills which sailors liken to "the shaggy mane of a horse" often present in descriptions
>as such the creature rarely, if ever, has to surface for air
>eggs are laid by females in secure underwater rock outcroppings where they are fertilized by the males
>eyes are tiny and set at the front of the distinctive wedge-shaped head with a sharply flattened top surface with the long red gill filaments trailing behind the jaws
>laterally propulsive tail takes up almost three quarters of the monster's total length, with the four stubby paddle limbs restricted to the front quarter
>keratin based cone shaped appendage on head is a powerful electrochemical receptor that the beast uses to sense other creatures around it with excellent precision; sailors of liken it to a horn although it is never used for fighting
>mottled grey skin covers the entire body

>despite a fearsome reputation for devouring sailors, the beast is a harmless filter or vacuum feeder and is quite shy around any animal that may potentially be a predator
>exact diet is debatable but fierce competition with humans for food spelled the end for the legendary sea serpent when man indiscriminately pilfered its prey
>overall, a passive lifestyle, grazing diet and slow metabolism ease the creature's energy demand for a beast its size

If any of this is implausible, I'm open to suggestions to tweak this imaginary sea monster.
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>>2455852
Are salt water inhabiting amphibians a thing?
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>>2455950
crab-eating frogs are the only ones.
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>>2455852
>60 meters in length
Stop going for shock value.
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>>2455950

The Earth was literally crawling with them during the Devonian period.

>>2455961

Should have said that average adult length is 15-20 meters but a handful of "legendary" individuals can approach 60 meters long and 2 meters thick.
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>>2455852

If they all died we would have found skeletons of those things sooner or later.

2/10
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>>2455852
Crypto's honestly believe the over fishing thing is a reason that fewer and fewer people report seamonsters. It's funny, but it's also sad as hell.
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>>2456489
Not true. It's believed that there are whole species we will never discover because their bone structure was too weak or they thrived in conditions that didn't allow for the formation of fossils.
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>>2456535

It doesn't have to be fossils. >>2455852 Mentioned the creature existing up until the late 19th or early 20th century. There would be intact skeletons on the ocean floor of what would be essentially whale sized amphibians. There would also be occasional beached carcasses that would be impossible to downplay as anything else.
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>>2455852
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>>2456631

Lol penis head
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Would anyone want to start a astrobiology project that spands a few different planets?
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>>2460046
I had an idea for a project where humanity terraforms mars, venus and the moon before abandoning them in favor of a dyson swarm thus leaving the inner solar system to evolve independently.
Would this be a good idea?
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We're about to get decimated by global warming
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>>2456631

So it evolved "niggas" displayed on its side?
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>>2460113
Your mom's ass is about to be decimated. How about a parasite that lives in fresh water, drawn to fecal matter from the animals that bathe and drink in it? Then, similar to the candiru, it tries to swim up the asshole for the source. It would then form an anus inside of that anus, plugging up the original, and effectively stopping the flow of shit from the host. Then, it would feed on that straight from the intestines, and what eventually exits is its more efficient poop. I'm imagining a bulbous end with a narrow hole, like two funnels stuck together, to make sure it stays put. Then it would grow lengthwise and girthwise as it matures. Needs a name, though.
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>>2454293
???
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unfortunately you are incorrect
we will just move toward poles from equator
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His thread needs some dougal dixion
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Dixon is one of great foundators of speculative biology. I think H. G. Wells mentioned above was one of the first ones. I would be interesting to trace the chronology of articles, books and the most important projects in spec.bio.

<---- Pic related is a cover of Russian edition of "After Man..." published in 2017.
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>>2464247
I always found the art for that book really wonky
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>>2465226
Just try to make in better, ok?

So, what about the chronology of spec evo works and events?
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who else /Terraforming/ here?
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don't forget to mention the name of the project - Nea by Joshua Knuppe.
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>>2464234
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>>2466022
Kek
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>>2461415
thinlyveildicus analfetishus
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>>2460097
That would be pretty cool, but all of those planets would need continuous intervention to keep their biospheres from being destroyed, wouldn't they? Are we assuming that the humans that moved to the Dyson Swarm are actively maintaining those worlds as an experiment, or did you have something else in mind?
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>>2460097
Mars and the moon are absolutely positively impossible to terraform because they lack a magnetosphere.
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>>2466106
Send Ceres on a collision-course with Mars. A terraforming impactor is a good way to ignite the planet's internal dynamo and create a debris belt that will become a new moon which will create tidal forces, keeping that dynamo going.
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>>2456505
Oh you.
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>>2466355
Polychaetes are so wonderfully bizarre.
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>>2452674
yes!
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I've been trying to draw a placoderm based dragon for weeks now, any tips?
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>>2466962
any exact species in mind?
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>>2466969
Well the only one I know really is dunkleosteus
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>>2466082
Mostly just advanced technology.
>>2466106
Making an artificial magnetosphere would be trivial for any civilization capable of making a dyson swarm.
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>>2452402
I'm thinking of writing a story and am curious what would be the most interesting/likely scenario for an alternate history where another sapient species coexists on earth alongside humans and evades human discovery until about the 17th century.
My ideas are
*other species of human (homo florensis,maybe some kind of isolated neaderthal population)
*Another primate of some kind (Gorillas/orangatans/chimps)
*Some kind of cetacean (either modern aquatic species or some kind of land dwelling species that continued to live on land until the modern era)
*Some kind of sapient bird/avian dinosaur (I'm not quite sure what kind of bird to go with ideas include corvids/parrots and emus, if not a completely fictional family and genus)
>Cephalopods
>Arachnids (like if the theories of jumping spider intelligence were correct)
>Something completely off the wall like sapient pachyderms
What do you guys think?
I'm imagining the species in question would have to live someplace that was mostly untouched by advanced human civilization until relatively recently in history so that their existence doesn't alter much recorded history.
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>>2452587
Did this guy ever make anything out of these ideas?
I vaguely recall him writing out some kind of fictional history of the world's colonization by turks or something but I don't know if anything ever came of it.
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>>2467303
>*other species of human (homo florensis,maybe some kind of isolated neaderthal population)
>*Another primate of some kind (Gorillas/orangatans/chimps)
These are the most original and interesting.
Although, it could be argued that the first is already true in our timeline.
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>>2467314
>These are the most original and interesting.
Sapient apes have been done many times.
I can't think of any fictional sapient birds or pachyderms
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>>2467049
lemme sketch something for you
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>>2467830
Cheers man
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>>2452414
>>2452579
Read Solaris. A living, sentient ocean that creates immortal waifus to fuck with pleb humans.

Agree with >>2454790 though, membranes are essential to life.
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>>2467841

well, it aint the prettiest because im slightly drunk and it was done in a hurry but i hope it helps you
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>>2467857
That looks great, cheers
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>>2467326
This is true. War for the Planet of the Elephants does sound nice.

Also
>captcha
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>>2455296
Oh god I wish I was a real life furry so god damn badly. I'd love to feel what having soft fur and a tail is like.
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>spec evo thread
>no rhinogrades
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>>2469363
>nose jumping
>nose fishing
>nose walking

All of these seem horribly inefficient for rodents
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>>2469363
>Jewish Evolution
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>>2452419
Pepe?
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>>2452415
Berserk?
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If the Trunko sea monster was real, what kind of animal would it be?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunko
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>>2455852
My take on it would be that they are giant frilled sharks (pic related), which explains why they are so rare (stay in the deep for the most part, already rare to begin with) and why little evidence of their existence is found (cartilaginous fish leave no fossils but their jaws)
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>>2469383
From what I can gather, they're not rodents. IIRC, they're the descendants of some obscure group(s?) of Mesozoic mammals that remained relatively isolated (along with several primitive insects, and a form of gliding snail) until the Quaternary.
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>>2470477
Still, for any small creatures, growing a nose to jump seems a bit insane. Then again, spec evolution can be crazy if given time.
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>>2452414
Geneticist here: yes and no. In the most liberal terms an ecosystem IS an organism.
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>>2470582
Well, this was one of the first of its genera, so you're bound to have a few hiccups.
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>>2470595
>nose is replaced by literal leg
>bony ear fins
>only one pair of actual limbs
Jesus Christ, and I thought the one using its nose as a drill was odd.
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>>2470635
actually nvm on the last thing, just noticed the vestigial legs
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>>2469588
Trunko was real.
It was a rotting whale carcass.
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test
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So, people, what are any other good projects on speculative biology?
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>>2471676
There was the speculative dinosaur project.
But it's dead now.
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So, about the Trunko. The initial report states that the two orcas dies in the 'battle'. So a few questions; 1. If the orcas died and Trunko was just a carcass, why did they die? 2. If they died, did anyone see their corpses? 3. If Trunko was a globster, why would the two orcas play with it and why did they die because of it?
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Balloon plant. A cluster of sacs at the base of the plant's large bladder convert atmospheric moisture to hydrogen gas, which keeps the balloon plant aloft. The outer membrane is photosynthetic, and large groups of the plants grow in the sunny clearings left by forest fires. Closest Earth Cousin: Kelp forests: The undersea plants have gas-filled pneumatocysts that help them grow toward the surface to convert light energy to chemical energy.
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>>2471539
No, I mean if it wasn't just a rotting whale corpse, and the description was actually describing a living species
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>>2471984
It is translated in Russia. The author of translation plans the placing of Spec to new site (I think both original and translated versions). Of course, I know Spec and even tried to propose new topic - the feather lice of dinosaurs and Spec birds.
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>>2465883
>>2465884
>>2465887
>>2465891
>>2465894
>>2465899
Search for >>2465988 revealed nothing. What's the idea behind this? Engineering life forms for colonizing Mars?
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>>2472047
The report of a "battle" between Trunko and the orcas was an extremely exaggerated secondhand account. There are photographs of the rotten carcass, which looks just like every severely rotten whale carcass ever found.
http://karlshuker.blogspot.com/2010/09/behold-trunko.html
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Ecosystem where every organism evolved from Homo sapiens
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Was thinking about how sex could work if there were 3 biological genders. Threw together some examples I could think up in MS Paint.

The sociological ramifications of 3 biological genders would be fun to think about too.
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>>2452415
>Crave those crazy squares
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>>2472126
How about male, female, and sporophyte?
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>>2472126
>if there were 3 biological genders
Isn't that true to an extent, though? Being intersex is surprisingly common, upper estimates put it at the same level as being born with red hair. It's usually linked with infertility though.
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>>2472151
>being intersex is common
>in a species with only two genders
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>some time in the future, gene editing and actually producing new species becomes so easy that every high school student has to do it in biology class
>people also do it as a hobby
>when they run out of ideas for new species, they browse through internet archives of old speculative biology discussions (including the threads on /an/) and actually create the species anonymous users came up with back in 2017
Would you be fine with this?
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>>2472156
Read the post you replied to. Being intersex is about as common as being born with red hair.
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>>2472084

hyrotrioskjan.deviantart.com
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>>2472156
It's an artificial non-functioning gender.
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>>2471676
The Anu project is great imo if you're into alien spec. I'll post some pics.
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>>2472072
Fucking russians get all the breaks.
You guys get your own translation and yet us who speak the language it was originally written in can't even access it anymore
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>>2472151
People who say that intersex people are common really need to look up the medical definition of intersex.
For example if you have a micropenis or an enlarged clitoris you technically count as intersex.
I'm not joking.
This is just another example of colloquial meaning running up against scientific definition.
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>>2472126
The top and bottom ones wouldn't actually work in the real world, any system that requires all 3 genders to reproduce would significantly reduce the reproductive rate without having much of an increase to genetic diversity.
The second and third from the bottom would be unstable and tend towards the extinction of one of the genders, thus turning them into a bi-gender species.
The second from the top might work but I can't think of any examples of it.
The third from the top works and actually exists in many plants.
In fact many plants have even more genders than 3.
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>>2472740
Mwa-hahahahaaaa!
But I think author of the translation will place also an original versionof pages there.
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>>2472126
Yfw some parasites have reproductive scenarios as convoluted.
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>>2472126
>The sociological ramifications of 3 biological genders would be fun to think about too.

Every alpha, beta, omega fanfic ever
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>>2452413
>>2452411
>>2452409
This is just the game spore
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>>2475006
After playing spore, I can attest to this.

However, they are surprisingly not penis monsters, so kudos to their maker for that.
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>>2472126
What about the fungal mating system? 100s of different recombinations of four genders....
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Would the concept of "paleocene dinosaurs" work? I thought of a scenario in which the dwarfed descendants of the American tsintaosaurus live and develop alongside paleocene mammals, such as the pantodonts.
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>>2475037
You could use the real world analogy for referance
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatara
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>>2475061
>extinct on mainland, persists on islands
Not sure that'd work, considering the anomalies occured in New Mexico, which is pretty much landlocked.
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>>2475072
It was geologically water covered with islands. But im not shure which time that was been a while since college. Wasnt there a inland sea? Just you could have them survive isolated but eh im not shure how you would sustain them even in fiction after they specialise to island or isolation.
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>>2475084
Not so much island dwarfism as it is coping with limited resources.
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>>2475086
But that would increase the pressure from predators, drive adaptation. Your beast would change, unless something took out the predators first, then reduced resources.
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>>2475091
So it'd be better to keep them at their original size, and let selection do the rest?
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>>2475101
Eh for argument sake you could make it codependant on a plant that makes its meat toxic to predators. Then have that plant have a blight reducing resources . Then you get your dino hobbling between two confused deer in a sunny forest.
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>>2475120
But for believability you would have to have some kind of isolation while the rest of the subspecies die off.
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>>2475120
>>2475123
I'd think they'd bounce back, considering their success during the Mesozoic. It may be that they developed within the basin while the paleocene and early eocene were going on, but were able to spread during the late eocene and the oligocene. Bear in mind, they'd probably only be present in North (possibly Central) America at this time.
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>>2475009
Seriously, why is Ramjet so obsessed with dicks?
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>>2475206
Because dick is a natural part of male, at least. And I see some problems in your mind. Do you want to speak about it?
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>>2475206
Also, seems to me you have no dragon dildo collections and experience? Buy and use some to understand nature more. Helped me a lot.
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Our evolution will take us to AI. Tranhumanism is where we are headed.
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>>2475237
He has an entire alien world of SPORE-tier dick monsters. I would love to speak about it.
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>>2475270
Eh but hopefully we keep a breeding poulation of people, if only for the ability to go back to the drawing board. Imagine everything is A.I then some recordbreaking solar flare knocks out everything electrical, then there is no flesh and blood hand to push the restart switch on all humanity has become. Somewhere the next day a bird pecks on the well crafted unseeing eye of a world leader. It is not edible, not usefull and the bird flaps off irritated it wasted the effort.
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>>2475484
If we're technologically adept enough to completely mechanize our race, we'd easily have contingency plans if a solar flare occurs. We'd possibly even have a Dyson sphere by then, so it wouldn't even be a problem.
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>>2475528
We indicate poor long term planning daily.
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This is a species I drew today. Not particularly imaginative, primarily influenced by the crab and primates. Semi aquatic, walks on the sea bed (doesn't swim), stores water in its body so that it can survive off of land for great lengths of time, omnivorous, highly social, perhaps inhabits a tidally locked planet but can withstand great temperature and pressure variations allowing them to spread further into either hemisphere outside of the more habitable zone than most life on their planet. Perhaps migratory/nomadic.

I'd like to try something that isn't so heavily influenced by life on earth.
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>>2475840
>The floppy version of this after shedding exoskeleton

Haha!

Draw it plz.....
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>>2452406
Is this the book with the superior alien race that genetically alters the human race beyond recognition because they were bore
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>>2475206
Was he ever a bug scientist? They classify and identify so many type by the convolution on the branches of their dick. Entire days looking at artificially erect flydicks might do that to a guy. But if so then his dick designs are bland by comparison to bug dick so eh.
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This shit is so fucking good. Ive never seen a better SpecEvo than this in my entire life. Would recommend to anyone who loves birbs
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Does this look too fantasy?
It's suppose to be a vertebrate plant hybrid. The hard growths shoot out and back from the shoulders to provide counter balance.
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>>2476500
Why dies it posess so many nipples?
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>>2476519
They're suppose to be root endings. I was thinking that maybe as it "sleeps" it could also root into the ground until it becomes active again? I'm very confused about the dynamics of plants though; on the surface there is a heavy stance on "plants can't do things quickly" but on the other hand we have proof that individual varieties can be very quick to grow, adapt and can animate to a certain extent.
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>>2476331
Nah, they did it for "deus vult" reasons. Man got in the way of their galactic conquest by not dying like a good inferior species, and so they punished them. The Qu are some weird-ass people.
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>>2476527
I think that sounds like a pretty good concept. Do the roots suck nutrients out of the soil while its sleeping?
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>>2475840
Looks like it'd fit right into Monster Hunter's world.
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>>2476500
Yes, though it could still work as a manufactured animal. I can't see loose roots like what you've drawn working for a mobile animal that needs to get up and move at a moment's notice. Maybe give it spikes that can fold up on it's underbelly that it jabs into the ground while resting, almost like a kickstand that absorbs nutrients. It will need a tail if that's it's stance, though you can keep the growths above it's "arms". I'd imagine they work both as counter balances and mating displays.
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>>2475840
Ape main, arrowhead sub?

9/10 would raise until hall of fame
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>>2475840
This is fucking awesome
Top tier speculative evolution concept
Zany as hell, but grounded in reality
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>>2475840
Behavioral aspect of ape >all noise and posturing no real fighting
Behavioral aspect of crab > will posture endless. Unless hungry then will hold you at arms length while plucking limbs off to eat in a moment.
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>>2476560
Yeah. My thoughts are what if the ground is mushy enough that rooting could happen in a shorter amount of time. I'm not an expert, but my orchids have these thick tubey roots that seem really durable; when I re-pot them they don't care very much it seems weither I preserve all the roots or very few. So what I was thinking as that during the "digestive" or "resting period" apex predators take, what if it rooted to pull minerals and stuff that's not found in their kills?

>>2476603
I really like the kickstand idea. The reason it doesn't have a tail is I don't know how to avoid the 'rex look'. I'm willing to add one, but what kind of tail would not make it's silhouette not automatically match up with ol' rex? And the boney / barky growths were definitely put there as counter balances; although I never thought of mating displays, that's a really good idea! Like antlers.
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>>2477543
>The reason it doesn't have a tail is I don't know how to avoid the 'rex look'.
You could have the legs placed further up the body, though it may end up looking like a chicken. Really as long as the portion in front of the legs is balanced by the portion behind the legs it should look well balanced.
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>>2475206
literally the first and most important part of understanding ramjet is that the parts of his aliens that look like cocks are their mouths and the parts that look like mouths are sheaths for their real cocks
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I ddon't remember the documentary, but I recall seeing one where a quail evolved into some sort of four-legged digging creature. Anyone know what that documentary was called?
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>>2478024
I think you're talking about "The Future is Wild", aka the show with squid monkeys and 150 ton tortoises
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https://youtu.be/eL5Cmj70rTc?t=1827
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A symbiotic inderdimentinal species that is long lived and hyper intelligent but needs another species to breed. Maybe the hyper intelligent species helps the other species a little but because it only breeds every once in a while and it is long lived and its only option isnt on one planet. ..if a species destroys itself it does not care too much. And because helping too much creates dependant societies the evolution of the carrying beast is little effected aside from a curious tendancy to grow attached to interspecies relationship. Raising other beasts for food, companionship, and even regularly having sex with the other animals around it.
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>>2478409
So basically Asari from Mass Effect but omniscient?
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>>2476493
link?
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>>2478756
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/topic/5745788/1/
Here ya go bud
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>>2472756

Assuming this is an alien ecosystem on any scale, I cannot see how any of them are unworkable.
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>>2480078
They're unworkable for the reasons I listed above.
No amount "hurr durr it's da aliums so anting is posible!" will fix the basic conceptual problems with most of those methods of reproduction.
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>>2480245

I do not think you have thought this through. Saying "its aliums!!!!!" is a good enough reason to not disregard any hypothetical form of reproduction for reasons that should be obvious. You are simply wrong, they are not unworkable in an alien biosphere, my friend :)
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>>2472160
Are there tourneys?
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specino
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>2480548
retard
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I've always wondered why no animal has taken the reverses skunk approach. Spraying (bad) liquid out of its mouth/face would be a pretty great defense
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How about a bird that lives solely off its ability to scare shit? Think a sort of peacock/parrot hybrid that uses the tail to scare shit visually and has its throat evolved specifically to make noises of bigger, scarier shit than the things that want to eat it
Eats things like bugs or small reptiles/mammals, probably
Called the Chatterbird
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>>2481012
Probably because the nose if right above the mouth not to mention the foul liquid also tastes awful making creatures throw up the animal they ate. Speaking of which the closest thing you will get is that some birds projectile vomit their stomach contents as a defense mechanism. Although of your talking about spraying things like venom and such a lot of animals do that from their mouth. There is even a lizard the sprays blood out of it's eyes.
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>>2481012
Certain marine birds can spray half-digested fish from their throats. Pretty nasty for me.
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http://cmkosemenillustrated.tumblr.com/post/100507734285/dreamt-of-this-haunting-woman-with-an-insect-like
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>>2481012
It would also be less useful when fleeing, although probably better when cornered.
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>>2480548
>"no they're workable in aliun enveroment ur wrong"
>provides no evidence or backing to his argument

Yeah, I can see that working. For Spore creatures.

Speaking of which, how do the Spore creatures mate?
Ingame, they simply dance around one another, and then one shits out an egg half its size ala Kiwi.
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>>2481250
>be cm.koseman
>asleep
>bug woman sucking your dick
>somehow get aroused by mandibles on penis
>bug woman eats penis
>Bustanut.jpg
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>>2481273
He's T*rkish of course he's aroused by his fellow insects.
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>>2481250
>memo will have his soul eaten by a succubus before he finishes his snaiad book
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>>2481281
>imagine being this sociopathic
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>>2481616
t. turkroach
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>>2475840
>crab alien
>no pincers in sight

snibbeti/snabs
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>>2472092
that has been overdone alreaddy, terraformed planets with organisms from earth howeverhas rarely been touched upon in detail
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>>2479938
This was great, I read the whole thing
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>>2482437
I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as i did. It's still my favorite SpecEvo project to this day
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>>2467308
>turkroaches
>colonizing anything after the fall of the ottoman empire
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>>2476500
I feel like I've seen that before.
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>>2469588
my take would be some distant cousin of sirenians that grew a trunk for foraging and or mating
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>>2452457
Look up mythology, foreign languages, or even just start spouting nonsense sounds until you get something that "sounds" like them. Just spitball, it will take some time, but try everything. Even if it's something goofy... like lettuce+red. Rettuce. Leretucce Recuttel Derletcuee

Hell, I've gotten ideas from old captcha codes (all hail Lord Inglip)
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>>2475206
I've followed him for a long time and I get the impression that it's his defiance of what he feels is a sexually repressed culture. Breaking free of blind tradition is a theme in his works, and I wouldn't be shocked if his distaste for religious fundamentalism has something to do with it.
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>>2478562
Hyper intelligent. .. even a super computer is only as good as the data points given it. Omniscient. .. nah.
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>>2478562
How much more real if no.*Autistic screeching folowed by fumbling*
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>>2484122
Could you say that in English?
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>>2484125
Eh poking fun at anyone in the crowd obscure religious lore aware. Forgot for a second this was /an/ not /lit/
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>>2484125
Have a distracting speculitive biology flying spider
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>>2484154
Alternatively
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>>2452402
Speculative biology:
Hive mentality and chemical communication in a advanced species augmented by technologies to the point a individual is part of a supercomputer made of biotechnology but still reserves individual concept and physical separation most of the time.
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Am I the only one that is extremely disappointed that I may never get to see a real alien creature in person or even a real photograph? I want to be able to go onto wikipedia and look at a completely real unedited natural light photo of an alien and read all about it (A picture like pic related that I pulled from wikipedia).

No matter how realistic a photo of a hypothetical alien creature is I still know it's not real and it doesn't satisfy me.
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>>2452402
A advanced human sub species that uses its dna as a template through a immortal lifetime, but augments it with chimeric technology in the form of new cells added to their own to switch up the experience with new cellular chemistry, new preferred nerve routes. For example suddenly after a innumerable lifetime you pick up some other genetic format actually like rap music, or appreciate onions.
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>>2484176
You could have edgy trendfollowers that use chimeric trendsets. Like several limbs or eyes, (or make the idea set here for fun... maybe...two livers and a tendancy to drink from one genetically pop culture popular specimen in Arkansas )
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>>2484192
>Imortals on benders
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>>2452402
Sentient sedentary separate species specimens sometimes sexually speciate spontaneously somehow


Eh bedtime. ...
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>>2467303
/x/ rep over here, why not Bigfoot?
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>>2472160
Betcha the ones browsing /tg/ and /qst/ will win, how bout it /an/?
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>>2452457
If they're alien, I decide on the phonemes and some basic rules of the language of the species (if they are sapient), or of the first species who'd describe them. Then I look at how other languages express the meaning I think the name should stem from and see how it can be done within the limits I set for the language.
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>>2484202
(Speculativly speaking similar simehow)Sexually strange sponges spontaneously sterile ? Scintillating scenario.
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>>2484304
>ones from /tg/
>literally all animal space marines
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>>2484687
but we have bouncing grubs
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>>2484304
>>2484977
Awful




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