Loli thread. Hand drawn edition.
I think it's really cute when lolis first learn about sex and what their pussies are for
>>943141799Very cute <:
pajeets have loli sized dicks
>>943142236shut up bastard nigger
>>943143089Shut up bitch maam
>>943141799<3 sasha-chan
>>943143808Hawtt
Hina Bump :3
>>943142236>loli sized dicksbut lolis don't have those...
>>943143978Looks super comfy
>>943147382The DLC isn't even out yet, y'all are so fast.
Happy Fall Times
One day you'll stand before God and you'll have to try to justify the things you masturbated to.
>>943159632Unless you are saved by Jesus, then your sins are not counted
>>943159632i will accept His judgment with a boner
>>943159632How do you justify finding pleasure in fantasizing about winged girls getting their wings ripped off? Nah I’m going straight to hell straight away no need to even try
Who's the artist that did the doujins where one she's a delivery girl, another is one spending the night with a teacher or some stranger when it rains and the last one I remember is a girl living in with some guitarist/musician. I also remember one of the girls had a jacket with a fur collar
>>943159632ti ho trovato bellissima
Pedophilia is a mental illness.
>>943160986Thinking mental illness exists is a mental illness
>>943162533not all of them are fat and ugly btw, just saying
>>943141799My butthole is always open for traffic in either direction.
good morning everyone <3
>>943163110But Hina-chan...This is AI generated no?What did OP state?
>>943143089SHAT UP SAAARR!! SAAARR WE HAVE HUUUGE DICKS SAAAR!
moar loli
>>943147329Textolyte makes great Tomoko art>>943147402Evil status: filled
What websites have Loli anymore? Seems like the major rule 34 sites have removed it
>>943166992Loads! There's loads of boorus like ATF or Gel. Pixiv is overflowing with loli too. It ain't hard to find.
>>943167322Any place AI gen videos of lolis? I only know the chan with an 8
>>943146479Trans lolis do, and trans lolis are lolis.
>>943167934pixiv is flooded with ai gen videos of loli. Just have to be quick cause they love to take them down when they look too realistic.
>>943163110Your butt is AI generated.
>>943168280Stop posting AI Slop in loli threads
>>943168319I feel like we all have our own definition of "slop" AI. I think it looks good.
>>943168422AI """art""" wasn't made by a human, and therefore is all slop.Stop flooding the loli threads with it. Make your own AI Loli threads if you want to post it, but don't spam it here.
>>943168569Your definition of "spam" is as loose as you definition of "slop"
>>943168569if its good, why would you care if its ai or not?
>>943168666oh, they're just a raging gatekeeper that's upset their college art degree is tanking on the loli-market. they do this everyday.
>>943168666What's wrong with making your own thread? This is the hand drawn one.
>>943168738an art degree could be useful to make the best of ai, ai gens are shit if you don't know what you're doing. so maybe anon is angry for no reason
>>943168569Idk I’ve seen some pretty washed artwork from both traditional artists and ai artists alike. Considering the fact that ai is new, I do believe that plays a role in why some people aren’t welcoming to the tech.Also to your point about ai art not being produced from start to finish; that is true in a lot of cases. But there are plenty of people you don’t hear about who level ai in a way that compliments their work — which I do believe it was designed for.I’d ask that you toss your bias to the side, and tell me for yourself “what’s a practical use of AI”?I’m completely open to a scenario where we agree, disagree, or agree to disagree! ( ˶'꒳'˶)
>>943168838> anon is angry for no reasonbingo
𐔌՞꜆. ̫.꜀՞𐦯 Here comes the big scary ai here to take your job and boner away ~
>>943169055taking my boner away because you made me cum?
>>943168923welcome Hina!I'd say the power of AI is in the speed of data processing. The ability to take massive amounts of data, correlate and then extract information from it. It's indispensable nowadays for business processing and is hooked into many aspects of global systems just based on the sheer amount of data we generate.
>>943169147this is the best GIF i've ever seen
>>943169055I do worry that AI will phase out certain low level jobs that we need as a society. Not everyone can/should go get a college degree, so we need shelf stockers, broom pushers, and ditch diggers as much as we need engineers and doctors. I'm sure there will be a transformation... but it remains to be seen imo. i'm not a supporter of a utopia view were we will all just sit around on beaches once AI does everything. I think people need things to do...
>>943169147Without a doubt; artificial intelligence has integrated itself into so many levels of society that we haven’t even experienced the full extent of where it’ll go.One of my professors talks about it non stop and I can tell he’s worried. AI (or AGI) will eventually displace a lot of people someday. Generative ai has already done that, on some minor levels.>>943169302I agree. It’s probably to out benefit that we learn how to do both. Traditional media and AI tools — so your odds of being displaced are lower. It’s best that we learn this stuff now, so it’s entirely impossible to go against it. You can still do this while going to art school and learning all the fundamental basics you can. One thing ai still does really poorly is muscle structure. And lighting as well. Eventually that won’t be the case, but there’s a lot still worth learning on your own before you use ai.That’s why we see so much slop.
>>943169119Yes :3
>>943168923>>943169055>>943169532>>943169586Pick up a pencil
>>943169532AI as a tool I think is good and only serves to benefit humanity. But AI replacing people is where things start to turn bad IMO. The hard part is where that line exists and how governments could hold that line to the betterment of society (which is literally their job). AI pilots, AI warehouses, AI factories, AI bus drivers, AI truck drivers... this is dystopian cause these people NEED jobs. What are they gonna do otherwise? I'm a software engineer, and I know first hand the power and limitations of AI though. We call it vibe coding and AI is 100 years away from replacing software devs for MANY reasons: project managers couldn't write concise specs to save their life, projects are just too immense for AI to understand all the ramifications and context, and AI messes up... alot, that may seem fine cause people mess up too, but people can also be held responsible and fix things, AI is very bad at that.
>>943169586you've done a pretty good job ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>943146479loli-compatible is probably what he meant. Normal adult dicks would most likely injure a loli
>>943170473some lolis have dicks, deal with it bigot
>>943170473idk, loli are surprisingly springy and stretchy!
>>943170546rapist mentality
>>943169702I do actually! :vI use both hand drawn, photo bashed, traced, and ai prompt assets to make my stuff. BUT I know you didn’t suggest that in good faith — so for your punishment; I’ll be sharing some new hina art later today!Blessing for the 99%Punishment for the 1%>>943170190I agree. There are some jobs and careers that are essentially irreplaceable.
>>943171732>photo based>loliKill yourself
>>943171792Don't feed the trolls.
>>943171966i don't think using ACTUAL CSEM as a base for your loli ""art"" is just "trolling"
>>943171792You don’t know what photo bashing is? :0I didn’t say “Photo based” I said “Photo bashed” which is completely different. Now I’ve traced over adult models before in the past — but nothing for this year. :3
>>943172109You keep feeding them, they keep replying. Trolls want attention. Look what you've done.
>>943171792educate yo self
>>943172212free bumps
>>943172317Not when it's ugly spam. Kill yourself immediately.
>>943172237Don’t worry, they’ll come up with a reason not to like it. I hope they do, because mental gymnastics is a favorite sport of mine! ( ˶T꒳T˶)
>>943172317thanks for letting me know.i will be sageing from now on
>>943172237not gonna lie, that's pretty cool
>>943172408hina's a pretty cool cat. I hear they do it all on their phone too!
>>943172747I saw that yesterday, pretty crazy
>>943172371I'm not good at gymnastics, but I do like tying people up in pointless arguments
>>943172371Of course you like mental gymnastics, you lolicons are masters of it>technically it's ephebophilia>she's a 3000 year old dragon>it's just a drawing
>>943172900sage
>>943168319Make me!
>>943172408Thx! ( ◠‿◠) I try!I don’t want the ai doing ALL the work. Where’s the fun in that?But I will say; back in early 2023, it was all ai prompts. I basically had no control over the outcome, and didn’t understand a lot of what I consider today as fundamentals.2024 however is a different story and where I learned more about what tools work best for me, so I really started to polish what I could do.This year was basically me refining & mastering all that I'm currently capable of. >>943172850Same ( =w=) hehe
>>943172900You guys even renamed yourselves to "MAPs" in an attempt to join the LGBTQIA+ communitysage
>>943172987Announcing sage is a bannable offense.
>>943173118ok, i'll stop
>>943168319Cmon sucker, make me stop! Whatcha gonna do?
I got to hang out with a cute loli all day yesterday, was a good time
>>943173274I thought it was two days ago. and it was a couple of your nieces friends at the mall buying xmas presents, right?
>>943172962lol, throwing random pipimi pillows in is classic AI backgroundyour design has smoothed out really nicely and the quality is vastly improved. Ever consider other styles? Like maybe pixel, or maybe chalk or crayon?
I'm fat, ugly and dumb. Please someone end my misery.
>>943173634Do it yourself, pussy
>>943173634you're posting some cute loli, so you must not be dumb.
>>943173516I’ve considered pixel art absolutely! Though I don’t necessarily have the skill set to master it in such a way that could rival some of the best I’ve seen. It can’t just be pixel art adjacent. Every pixel must be different intentionally placed and considered with a proper palette sheet.Eventually I’ll move towards that, but I need to study more and learn before I do. It probably won’t be hina art or even nsfw art by the time I do. We’ll see :3
>>943173274Calling real children "lolis" are you?This is why i lost all faith in humanity.
>>943173676I need a helping third hand for that.
>>943173337Friday I took my nieces out to the mall and stuff. yesterday just one of them stayed with me, we mostly hung out at the house
>>943173775That’s a lot of arms you got there :3
>>943173832Exactly!This is why AI cannot be trusted to make art.
I'm so fat and ugly, I just ate 20 chocolate bars to get over how ugly I am.
>>943173865AI is here to staycope, dilate and lose your shit as much as you want
>>943173737I'm kind of surprised to hear you sound like such a perfectionist. you understand the journey you have to go on and how much better it can get if you practice. but motivation is incredibly important too (maybe even the most important thing) and you should go at the pace you're enjoying <3
>>943173865The real question is? Watcha gonna do about it?
>>943173865Ai slop in this case occurs when a person either doesn’t clean their work (much like how when someone who uses a 3D printer to make a sculpture).You need to be intentional. Mindful of the subtleties. And consistent. There’s nothing wrong with making art that sometimes doesn’t feel right, or can sometimes fall flat. But a third arm is hard to miss. Same with inconsistent lighting. Stale expressions, and so on. I say be creative and try to experiment :3I’ve made a lot of mistakes too, so as a good rule of thumb; try to avoid these mistakes
>>943173821lucky! how'd it go? you guys play some games? maybe watch some tv?
>>943174017I forgot to mention; this can also happen if you don’t include the proper negative prompts.
>>943173865as the old russian proverb goes: trust, but verify. It's a tool, and should be used as such; meaning it's only as good as the person wielding it. Call of Duty is paying for skipping the verify step right now xD
>>943174017Stop coping my art, bitch!
Anyone wish they were the loli?
>>943174247yeah, duh
>>943174247Only if I get to not be AI
i want to do lolis, but I'm too lazy to draw.
>>943174517cute
>>943172962that's a rather large behind for a loli
>>943174588Fat flap, is that you?
>>943174247Of course not, I do not want to imagine being fucked by a guy.
>>943174031It was really fun. We lounged around all morning, watched some cartoons and stuff. Then around 1 we went to lunch and had to do a few errands. Came back and played some card games, made some tacos for dinner when gf got home. We sat in the hot tub for a little while
all AI posts are slopBBC and gore spammers are preferable to AI posters, at least they could be filtered by file hashbehead AI posters
>>943174907Come here and behead me then you bag of piss.
>>943174907Truth Nuke
>>943171732>I use both hand drawn,This is only technically correct since you steal hand drawn assets from other real artists. But you go ahead and mislead like that, it's all you can do to delude yourself and others.Ya know tbh I do like some of the hina stuff, but I always wonder which actual art you stole and traced over to make the good ones. Because god knows you're not smart enough nor creative enough to make them on your own, otherwise you wouldn't have to rely on a program to do it for you.>Inb4; aDapT wITh tHe TiMeS. nEW TeCHnolOgYThat's just cope for your lack of talent and we all know it, including you.
>>943174657I’ll definitely exaggerate features in order to maximize its appeal :3
>>943174969So whatcha gonna do about it?
>>943174961my life's dream is to invent a way to drown people over the internet
>>943174907True. They even got told politely to fuck off in the OP, so rude. At least their attention seeking is making them namefag so you can filter them that way for now.
>>943175086>drown peoplein what?water? piss? cum?
>>943174578thx
>>943174851wow, that sounds like a perfect day tbh! damn, I would love to just spend the day chillin with a loli. livin the dream man!
>>943175125Shut up fat flap. You still need to prove to us that you are really fat and ugly, or not.
>>943175205moar?
>>943175152
>>943174973It’s a modern method for achieving what many consider to be a new form of art. It’s not here to replace traditional methods. It’s not here to belittle your work — assuming you’re a legacy style artist.But it is here to stay. You can either leverage it to better your work, or ignore it while others jump ahead of you. I choose to include these tools to enhance (and teach) my work. And thankfully I’ve met a lot of great artists who I talk with on discord all the time. Some big names, and smaller ones.My only two issues with ai are how it began (which I agree wasn’t great) and the amount of genuine bad art it can produce — when the person in control doesn’t understand fundamental basics.There’s also a third concern, but it’s mostly a non issue. That being a lot of ai art tends to look or feel very similar across the board. Which is why I go out of my way to (usually) avoid these similarities.But with everything; it’s a learning experience
>>943174812gay
>>943175242It was nice. She was dressed really cute in kinda tight jeans and a tank top that showed off a little bit of her stomach. But she looked amazing in her bikini she wore in the hot tub
>>943174247I only wish to lolify others
>>943175444for example who?
>>943175500You.
>>943172371>>943172747You're getting more and more obvious with the samefagging hina. What is this now like 2 or 3 different accounts you have to talk to yourself? Like you weren't even subtle dude, several accounts suddenly start spamming loli threads around the same time, and all of them give praise to "hina-chan" and argue in favor of ai slop? Not to mention all the "anonymous" people who suddenly defend you in every thread, when previously the majority opinion was against ai outside of the degen threads? You're actually fucking retarded if you thought this would go unnoticed. Go do the world a favor and kys
>>943175336>peeEW
>>943174588What is this qr code
>>943175687it's a glowie
>>943173775>>943173832And now you've created yet another account to talk with yourself. Let me guess, this one is gonna post "broken" ai images, and the great hina-chan will always swoop in to give amazing advice on how to fix it, thereby "proving" how oh so hard it is to make ai slop, and trying to make it seem like a real skill. That sound about right?
>>943175687Session
>>943175833i don't think hina is samefagging
>>943175580shut the fuck up and post some loli faggot
>>943175303>>943175833Oh nvm its even worse than I thought, you just want a new persona to argue with yourself and ragebait
>>943176184>ragebaitback in my day it was called "trolling"
>>943175359>Some big namesNames and proof you fucking liar
>>943176408where is her penis?
>>943175580Are you suggesting that in GIF-Chan! ( ._.) as flattering and cool as that would be, I’m just me. Only one account.If I had multiple accounts, why would I have made a huge deal about me being falsely banned some months ago? Wouldn’t it make more sense for me to just make a new account and post without going through the trouble of sending 4chan emails and appeals? Seems kinda obvious on that front, but maybe you’re stupid and don’t know. In which case, I’m sorry you didn’t know. Maybe now you won’t be stupid. Surely… :3
>>943176467go to the shota thread if you want that
>>943176267You want me to post screen shots from my private discord chats to other artist? Out of respect for them, no. ( =w=)But tell you what, message me on pixiv and I will
>>943176527Because you're clearly desperate for attention and validation. This daily routine is probably the only thing you actually have to look forward to in your miserable life
>>943176671>This daily routine is probably the only thing you actually have to look forward to in your miserable lifeIf that's true, let them have it. They are clearly not in a good mental state and they should be allowed to have an outlet.
less talk, more cunnyposting
>>943176671Being annoying to the folks who tried to ruin my name is a very fun pastime — I must admit. Seeing them cope and seethe, while going out of their way to have a public meltdown melts my heart. I get a lot of satisfaction from it. Which also encourages me to make more art. So it’s a win win for me and for those who actually enjoy my work for what it is! ( ˶' ꒳ '˶)
>>943176655With all of your talent I'm sure you could edit out any of the private parts, and just prove that there is any conversation at all. You won't though, because if you posted proof here then you risk someone realizing that they're fake. Much less chance of that in a one on one chat. Fucking liar, what real artist would ever waste their time with a thieving ai fag like you
>>943176973Don't even engage with the Aifag, they like attention
>>943175687The woman pictured is rumored to have underaged pics of herself in existence and available somewhere online.The QR code is someone's link to a sesion chat where they claim to have and be willing to share said pics.It's a big fed glowie trap to get people to openly request CP from an undercover federal agent.This is less for an opportunity to catch actual pedophiles, and more an excuse to get leverage on a variety of curious civilians so they can bully you into participating in their schemes later on.Basic blackmail from ham-handed fatfuck glow boys.
>>943177046I'll keep engaging with them until the stop flooding the threads with ai slop
>>943176885How about you show us what we’re really here for, fat flap?
>>943159632One day you will notice your lies about your life and how you made yourself an nigger of an fictive character made by a few mens laughing at you now.Kys or pray to enki
>>943177143What country is that?
>>943176885>tried to ruin my nameIt was ruined from the start by posting ai garbage
>>943177175Russia
>>943177175That's not a country, That's the "pride flag" lolicons made for themselves after rebranding as MAPs to try to goin the lgbt
>>943168666>if it’s goodThere is an enormous subjective load on that condition
>>943177143I remember making this in December of 2024. At the time; I didn’t know what those colors truly meant, and a mod on Sankaku (super nice btw) gave me a brief overview and explained why it’s not good. I completely wasn’t aware and decided to make a new one without the colors ( °w°)It’s art that exists now, so I can’t denounce it. Art for me has always been an evolving journey. You live and you learn <3
>>943177445why would we want to be lumped in with faggots??
>>943168666AI """""art""""" is NEVER good
>>943177681Both ai and traditional art can be a hit or miss. Lots easy to be completely fooled by both
>>943177721Nobody gives a fuck what you’ve got to say. Just show us that you are fat and ugly, or not.
>>943177721>chose to include flag prominently in the background>didn't know what it meantyeah right
>>943177857i give a fuck about what hina has to say
>>943177857Now do it with a throbbing horsecock
>>943177857Nope. You’ll never see a pic of me! Some have. But you won’t :3>>943177870I go by requests a lot of times, so when someone suggests ideas, I’d say ok and make it. Knowing what I know now, I’m much more cautious! I was 18 at the time so it’s been a learning process for sure ( ^w^)
>>943177785You people are the cringiest faggots known to man. You deserve to be replaced. The machines have more soul than you ever did.
Totally soulless :3Meanwhile; OPM season 3 looks like the real soulless mess!~ ( =w=)
>>943178200Stop yapping and unprivate those flaps. Everyone here wants to see them, faking they care about your degenerated art.
>>943178556What I wanna know is how you got those golden suntan/tan lines. . . In the winter >_>
>>943168207well said sister
>>943178200You're like a 30 something autist dude. Stop with the 19 year old cutesy bullshit. Like seriously how much of a loser can you be
>>943178754
>>943178742You’re projecting again ( ˶' ꒳ '˶)Not everyone who likes loli is old you know. Twitter can prove that!
>>943178626Tight ass bitch. Hanging around in pedo threads but chickening out when push comes to shove.
>kindergarten_uniformsToT
>>943174517I've been a cgi artist since 1994 and let me tell you: it's an art. don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.
>>943179141I’m not dumb. I’m not gonna be baiting into posting me to prove a point to an anon who’ll just move the goal post again like they always do. It’s part of their coping strategy that hasn’t been working. :3the more annoyed they get, the more enjoyment I receive! I love it! Serves them right for what they tried to do to me! ( u_u)/
>>943179270Cgi is absolutely art, because it takes actual skill to make, and doesn't just amalgamate other works. Ai will never be art, because it's a program doing everything for you, and it does so by stealing art from actual artists. This isn't a difficult thing to understand you retard
>>943179459You've never tried to make an AI image in your life, faggot.
>>943178894>Not everyone who likes loli is oldYou're right, but you certainly are, and you're not fooling anyone either. Also based on the way you pretend to speak, you've clearly never had any real interaction with females before, which is probably part of why you're such a massive loser
>>943179459I view ai art in the same light as 3D printing. Doesn’t take much to begin the work, but it does take effort to finalize and polish the final look. Same way scalpers need to smooth the edges, paint the look, and assemble the parts is the same way any artist who uses ai has to clean their works, and finalize all the details.That doesn’t take anything away from people who sculpt with clay, or someone who paints with a brush. Right? ( ,,¬﹏¬,,)
>>943179392You’re as dumb as a box of crayons. Hanging around here, thinking anyone gives a fuck about your ugly sketches. Everyone is nice to you because they want to see your flaps.
>>943179488>Can't say that I'm wrong>Has to resort to poor attempt at ad hominemKek, pathetic loser.
back from adulting! what'd I miss? looks like more ai art debate xD
>>943179699The debates never end. But that’s ok. I like to upset these people :3You didn’t miss a whole lot but welcome back <3
>>943179627Do you ever fear that you might overdose from all that copium
>>943179685Tell me more about the psychic abilities the machine has that makes every image perfect. Explain to me how some images in the Degen thread look good and others look like someone out them through a washing machine. Since it's so fucking easy and the machine does everything for you.
>>943179755I like to exist under practical circumstances & conditions! c:You’re more than welcome to challenge my view with your own, and see if there’s a meaningful shift in the way we think. Or we can just agree to disagree ^^
>>943179761Cope and seethe harder dude. Ai slop isn't art, and it never will be.
>>943177089Thanks for the context, I've been trying to understand why these have been spammed in these threads
>>943179740idk, maybe some people just can't get it up unless they can taste the crayon shavings ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>943176930
>>943179885Lmaooo xD omg that’s so mean!!Idk but the more upset they get, the happier I am. Justice has been served <3
>>943179740Hina, any progress on the Hina x Anya crossover?
>>943180011maybe a Hina x Kokkoro crossover too? lol (ෆ^ᵕ^ෆ)
>>943179838I do it for fun. You're the retard that's going to die starving and unknown in the gutter. But that has little to do with AI art.
>>943180209Still working in the Anya x hina art <3
>>943180318the need intensifies...
>>943179827Think of it this way. If I were to commission an artwork, and then edit it a bit to better fit my exact liking, would it be right to then claim the art as my own work? Do art restorers get to claim the paintings or pieces just because they do a touch up?This is how ai works, and this is what you do, it's that simple. It doesn't matter how "far it's come", it's core is still theft, and that makes you and other ai "artists" thieves. You're not an artist, and ai isn't art.
>>943180041Yes, I've made this one utilising my best paint brush made of my finest pubic hair.What do you think?
>>943180385The argument then comes down to "where is the line". This is literally something I question about everything in life on a daily basis. Where does the line exist between X and Y? When does it step over that line and become unacceptable?If I assemble a kit car, did I "build" the car? Do I have to cast the parts from metal myself? Do I have to mine the iron and smelt it? If I assemble 1000 disparate elements from 1000 separate works, and assemble them into something "new", did I create something? At what point can you call yourself an "artist"? what does that word even mean? The world is shades of grey EVERYWHERE.tldr; Look up "Ship of Theseus".
>>943180532hello again Hina! Still hoping for more preggo and cumflation
>>943180532I think identity theft is not a joke! Millions of families suffer every year!
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>>943180734What's the matter gif-chan hun kun bun mun? Don't you like my bbf art for us two?Aaaahaha sue me, bitch!
>>943180865careful, your schizophrenia is showing. tldr; look up "clanging words"
Another fake account.If the name doesn’t read “( °^°) Hina Chan!~” it’s a fake. That accounts missing the exclamation mark :3>>943180352>>943180619>>943180734>>943180820
>>943181000you don't really have to explain, the fakes are glaringly obvious. which is ironic really. they're as slop as the AI they condemn
>>943181120That’s very true! xDJust wanted to make sure you knew lol
>>943180619>The argument then comes down to "where is the line"It doesn't though, this is just how you're justifying it. If you take another person's art and claim it as your own, that's theft. There's no line, there's no argument to be had about it. Ai " artists" use a program to automatically create a composite image made from others artwork (almost always fed to the machine without permission), and claim it as their own original works. Imagine the same thing but with an android programmed to do that. Would it be your work, or the androids?As far as the ship of theseus, it's not like that at all. It's more like having someone build you a copy of another ship, but then nailing a few extra planks of wood to it and saying you built the ship.
>>943181000> If the name doesn’t read “( °^°) Hina Chan!~” it’s a fakewait, you don't have an exclamation mark... FAKE!
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>>943181000You're truly really a mental retard.
>>943181209In order to be theft, the thing being stolen needs to have value. Most AI art looks like trash because the world hasn't produced an actual artist since the 1960s.
>>943181209 You know nothing John Snow. Maybe educate yourself on how AI really works first, then explain how it's different than the actual human brain, then come back.
>>943181220I just realized the mark is only showing for me ( ;-;) idk why. But sad
>>943181000What the fuck are you talking about? None of your posts have an exclamation mark. You do know this site keeps track of the posts from namefags right? All the posts from hina-chan in this thread have been from the same personAre you retarded or actually schizophrenic
>>943181417I figured as much. I'v posted enough ascii to realize characters get missed. no biggie.
>>943181417You're so dumb, you can't even read properly.
lol, they couldn't prove samefagging, so they decided to do it themselves. get a life.
>>943181313So you have no actual argument then, and are trying to be dismissive by pretending that I'm somehow ignorant. Ok.
>>943181668> Ai " artists" use a program to automatically create a composite image made from others artworkyour whole premise is flawed cause that's not how AI works. it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how AI creates images. it's as flawed as saying the only REAL artists that have ever existed were blind. Does AI need to be trained on images? Yes. But so do HUMANS!!! AI doesn't just copy. go educate yourself on how they taught AI to SEE images. like, literally view an image in the same way HUMANS view images. AI isn't as dumb as you want it to be.
>>943181768>like, literally view an image in the same way HUMANS view imagesNo they don't you fucking idiot. The program scans the image, pixelizes it, and then breaks it down into color codes and position. It then compares that against a database of tags and corresponding images to determine what it's probably looking at. When you enter a prompt, it's doing the same thing and comparing tags to generate a composite of matching features from its database. A database fed mostly by stolen art.Just cause you watched one fucking hype video or read an article or something doesn't mean you understand how the technology works, clearly.
>>943182292LOL this "database" thing is so retarded. Please explain how does whole danbooru database (several TB of images) fits into a 6GB checkpoint.
>>943182468It's not an internal storage you dipshit. They can and often are programmed to use other sources as their database. It's a trawling program
>>943182754Wow amazing. I wonder how it still works when I disconnect the internet cable. Damn CIA backdoors receiving signals from the moon haahahahhahahahahahahahah retard
>>943182754we are going to have to agree to disagree then cause we can't move past the premise that you feel individual pixels of color are "stolen". That, plus you have no understanding of what you're talking about, means we aren't gonna make any headway here. AI SEES images in the same way you do. There isn't a database of pixels matched up to keywords. You can show it 1000 images of a Chocolate Chip cookie, then show it a book, then ask it to make an image of a Chocolate Chip cookie. It'll make an image unlike any other Chocolate Chip cookie of the 1000 it's ever SEEN before. It knows how perspective works, and distance, and shading, and composition, and tone, and it knows this as well as you do. It isn't just cataloging pixels. It knows what the images are.
>>943182789>I wonder how it still worksYeah I bet you do since you obviously only have a surface level understanding of how these things work, if even that.It can't "create" anything without being fed data based on other works to compile. This is why you can tell it to make images in the style of specific artists, because it was fed the images in the first place, and knows how to replicate them. Database is not synonymous with storage you retard
>>943183022>It knows how perspective works, and distance, and shading, and composition, and tone,These are all things that can be programmed with tags and image recognition. Do you think chatgpt is sentient too? Do you think it actually thinks about what you're saying to form an authentic human response? Of course not. It matches key words that you type with its database of tags and pulls an amalgamate response from its database (i.e. the Internet in this case). It wouldn't function without the internal match and compare programs, it's how all generative ai currently works. Image generators included. They function because they've been fed stolen art, and know how to replicate it based on a complicated system of tags.
>>943183219I'm part of a team that trains these models. I know a little bit.There's a database of images during training. Just like there's also a "database" of everything you ever saw in life as an artist.There's no database at inference. Only condensed knowledge. Just like there's no literal database in your head when you draw, only concepts, shapes and colors and shades.
Do "real artists" pay every fellow artist they study from and trace art from? Yeah... I doubt it. You have to study from plenty of sources and most of you are dirt poor.
>>943183666>>943183892On a conceptual level yes it's similar to how we learn and think to create, and from the standpoint of technological progress, I can even respect it for what it's capable of.The problem is that you wouldn't go to an artist, ask them to make something for you, and then go claim that art as your own original work. You are doing this with ai though, and at the end of the day it's still a machine reliant on a database of stolen art. When you use ai, you are stealing the hard work of real artists to make up for your own lack of ability, and in some cases even profiting from blatant theft. It's disingenuous and shows a clear lack of integrity and self respect. Therefore ai "artists" are worth only contempt and pity.
>>943183666There's no database as we don't store with perfect memory. The memory of what we seen is always recreated. Not a picture perfect copy. Therefore even after the first viewing of the image, there is distortion that can occur. Mixed with human inconsistencies, this is part of the reason why art style are created because it's our way of simplification of the world around us.
>>943166676did we ask for a lolibaba? no. Get this hag out of here
Well, I drew this by hand. See if you recognize her.
>>943189178You know that's a freaking child.......
>>943189326Oh, really?My drawing is a child?When was she born? Please tell me.
>>943159632how does he justify killing billions of people and allowing kids to be r****d and trafficked?
>>943184954>There's no database as we don't store with perfect memory.You see it clearly when you are looking at it. That's the equivalent of the model training part.>Therefore even after the first viewing of the image, there is distortion that can occur. Mixed with human inconsistencies, this is part of the reason why art style are created because it's our way of simplification of the world around us.This is the equivalent of how several TB of anime images transfer to several GB of model weights.It is exactly the same information condensation as in humans.
>>943144454what was it?
