>tfw the only thing standing between me and 7-8 figs (eventually 9-10) is my lack of knowledge in coding trading bots I can't breathe
>>58939460>is my lack of knowledge in coding trading botsif you think it'll make you that much money then just learn how to do it
>>58939473The problem is I'm barely above average when it comes to learning concepts which is the same as being retarded. My genetics don't allow me to go further beyond
>>58939477Well.. maybe with a tutor I could do it. Self teaching? I never actually tried and AI online can probably help me out a bit. At best I could see myself being very half-assed
just confused as to why you'd need to make your own trading bot, if you got to 7 fig then just keep doing what you were doing
>>58939482Trading bot can replace the income from a job while risking low capital and can create more avenues for investments. I can accumulate much harder from gains from a bot than from my wage slave job
>>58939477i believe in you anonjoo can do it
i have to be honest fren, i think trading bots aren't actually real. There's no tangible way to predict the market. However considering your big portfolio, there's a lot of devs willing to work with ya. Just my two cents
>>58939537>i think trading bots aren't actually real. There's no tangible way to predict the marketThere is. I see the predicted movements in real time. Over years too. Not just some one time thing. Once, I even tried one of my methods and it yielded about 19 wins in a row with one loss. I deviated from it and that account went bust. Didn't retry it after that. Also it takes a lot of mental fortitude which quite frankly I don't have. I'd rather set it and forget it. All this to say those 19 wins in a row were not done from randomness. The game is to see what the whales are doing. They basically communicate with indicators
>>58939558You mean looking for large market order flow?
>>58939460Even if you could code you wont make a profitable trading botThere are very good bots available for free where you can implement your own strategy and still barely anyone makes a profit t. codemonkey
>>58940421Nope
>>58940443Wrong. Some of my methods might turn into duds, BUT I am 100% confident in others. Confident to the point where I'd put billion dollar limit orders if I had that kind of cash
>>58940518Clusters of buy/sell orders within large liqudation zones?
>>58940557No
>>58940522>he thinks he can put in billion dollar orders>in an unvetted personal account>without market impact and having marketmakers frontrun himso you know nothing about trading.
Kek! buy and hold MBM and you're OK jeet.
>>58940594...do you know how limit orders even work? Lmao. Ya no shit the whole thing probably wouldn't fill in one go. As for frontrunning, meme. As long as you have the orders somewhat laddered
>>58940636They wont fill. Market will run out of sellers/buyers. You need liquidations
>>58940652>t-they won't fill!You're retarded
>>58940522Then why arent you rich yetHire someone to build your little bot
>>58940721Emotional side of my brain made me go full retard. If I were a robot, I'd have been good
>>58940697>price $100>anon buys it all>price now $200>anon buys it all>price now $300>anon wants to cash out>nobody buys anon's bagspost a 5 year account summary hotshot. you're a straight retard.
>>58940729You're a fucking moron. If it hits a support, some/all of the order gets filled depending on the dump. What the fuck do you think makes it pop up in the first place? You're so fucking stupid and it's funny because you think what you're saying isn't bullcrap lmao Shut the fuck up and learn what limit orders are and how they fill. Your comment is ridiculously low IQ
>>58940729Let me dumb it down further. Say you have a limit order at "50k". If it hits, some/all of the order gets filled depending on the amount. Then it needs to rehit to fill more if it didn't already. Why is that hard for you to understand? I just happen to know where the ultra supports are at aka where to put limit orders for worst case scenarios. Your logic doesn't even compute because you're saying it's literally impossible for any limit order to work ever which is so god damn fucking retarded. Your stupidity actually pisses me off
>>58940729Also I know your types. You're going to try to save face. There's nothing to save. Your "logic" is garbage
Money already scales mostly, if you’re bullish on SPY and it keeps working, you can just buy a hundred shares instead of 50. Most bot trading to my knowledge is to take advantage of split second arbitrage opportunities created by market buys and sells on exchanges.
>>58940854>Most bot trading to my knowledge is to take advantage of split second arbitrage opportunitiesNo, bots aren't designed to do one thing only. They are designed to automate and refine (with backtesting) whatever method you have in mind
>>58940861The majority of volume coming from autonomous execution though is market order and fractional front running I believe, HFT front running makes up like 50% of the market or something ridiculous. So sure it’s not all you can do, but its the majority of profitable stories about algo trading you hear, since again money is already scalable. You can refine and backtest strategies yourself, you don’t need ML AI goobldeegook to turn a profit in the market unless you actually require persistent trading to make it work.
>>58939460>>58939477>bro if only i was smarter, then i would get rich!>why don't you get smarter then?>i can't because [bullshit excuse]you don't deserve to make it.
>>58939477Have you considered that your low iq might have mistaken how profitable trading bots would be? Why tf do you imagine your bots would consistently profit? What exactly would you have them do?
>>58941008>So sure it’s not all you can do, but its the majority of profitable stories about algo trading you hearMy methods are not related to arbitrage. >>58941016Because I manually backtested them, you fucking retard. Also, one method alone yielded 19 wins in a row, you fucking clown. You can't read, dumbass? Fucking obviously there's potential there with enough refinement which can only be done with actual backtesting and you need to know code for that
>>58941032To be more specific, I manually counted how one of my methods would perform. That's what I mean by manual backtesting. But this caveman level is not enough to get it down to a science
>>58941012>completely worthless post to shit up the threadJeet
>>58941032A lot of strategies work great in certain market conditions, and absolutely tank when conditions change. It’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about.
>>58941036Let me guess… you manually back tested by looking at bottoms and imagining that you had a bought buying the right points. Kek. Reality is you program specific indications which get triggered at points that aren’t just the bottom. This is the difference between dialing in a strategy via programmatic backtesting vs your biased manual review
>>58941047You fucking moron. I hate low IQs like you. Ya no shit that's true hence why BACKTESTING is a thing, you absolute dumbass monkey. For instance one of my methods works best in crab markets so obviously during highly volatile times, I'd want that one turned off.Basically with backtesting I would be able to see the dates where it fails, zoom in by looking at the charts during those times, and see what kind of conditions were present (and I already have a good idea which conditions lead to the most volatility), and then make it so the bot doesn't enter during said times Do you niggers even know what backtesting even is? Holy shit, you're braindead
>>58941059You’re the one talking about manual back testing faggot. >hur dur you low iqs don’t know what backtesting isWake up to yourself retard
>>58941055...the fuck, retard? You're making up random bullshit that has nothing to do with the way I look at charts LMAO 101 projectionBut anyways no. For instance I use an indicator, used the method for a month straight, and saw how many succeeded and how many failed without bias. Again though this is caveman backtesting. Retard. I got 19 wins in a row one time with caveman level backtesting so obvious, you fucking inbred, if I had a proper way to backtest, I could refine it to a much higher level
>>58941063Lmfaoooo idiot. Again I literally yolo traded real money and got 19 wins in a row at one point. Dumb retarded cunt trying to save face LMFAO. Again, this was with caveman levels of backtesting hence why I'd need real backtesting to REFINE IT.God DAMN, you are slow in the head
>>58941066Sure thing champ. You have a winning strategy that produced 19 wins in a row, but you haven’t bothered to try it since. How does that make sense? If it’s so profitable why are you manually trading that strategy every day?
>>58941072>You have a winning strategy that produced 19 wins in a row, but you haven’t bothered to try it since. How does that make sense?Why do you think, retard? It was flawed. I need proper backtesting to refine it. Just LMAO at the fact that I have to dumb it down this hardLOOOOOOL
As someone that has programmed trading bots, I will tell you that it’s generally not worth it to program indicator strategies. These only work when market conditions are right, but get absolutely fucked when the market throws a curve ball… something Bitcoin is known for. Best bots are designed to capture and profit from other traders mistakes
>>58941083It’s dumbed down in your mind anon. You’re just too low iq yourself to realize this.
>>58941072>If it’s so profitable why are you manually trading that strategy every day?Manual trading is fucking retarded. The psychological impact is a debuff that fucks trades that would have otherwise succeededOn top of that, manual trading is imperfect which means even with a method, it's akin to gambling. A bot on the other hand treats the method you want to use as PURE MATH. PURE PROBABILITY. You can refine it by pushing out all the shit that would otherwise make it fail which in turn increases the odds of winning and the ROI How are you this slow? You a third worlder?
>>58941090No, you're too slow to understand the most basic concepts. Under 100 IQ over here, LMAO Look, inbred. I know probability isn't your strong point. Go back to eating crayons
>>58941087>that it’s generally not worth it to program indicator strategies. Translation: "I failed at it and would blow a fuse if you succeeded at it therefore stop trying. I failed at it so everyone else would automatically fail".Blah blah blah. Shut the fuck up
>>58941092Kek. We get it, you’re smarter than the market and everyone else… just too dumb to learn how to program.
>>58941098Translation: the only bots that are consistently profitable aren’t the ones trying to beat the market… it’s the ones trying to beat other market participants…arbitrage
>>58941102I won't discount your coding knowledge, but you're an idiot if you think that automatically means you'd be a better trader. I'm half tempted to just show you some of my strategies to shut your bitch mouth up, but that's probably the 3D chess you were plying at so nope. Not happening. You aren't getting shit from me
This OP is fucking retarded. Imagine coping and rationalizing this hard why it’s not your fault you don’t make any money. Probably a femanon desu
>>58941111No, I got it right the first time.
>>58941113I don’t care about your strategy faggot. You aren’t special.
>>58941116Retard. I'm saying if I had the coding knowledge to backtest my methods, I'd be able to refine them to their best form. Illiterate as hell. Fuck, this board is dumb as shit, kek
>>58939477that's one of the gayest excuses i've read in a really long time.
>>58941120The funny thing is I know my strategies are special :) They just need refinement. Fyi I caught the covid dump before it happened. Same with the May 2021 crash. I didn't catch the exact bottom of the covid crash, but I did catch the exact bottom of the May 2021 crash. By exact bottom, I mean it was spot, but my limit order was only off by a little under 2%. Let's say 3%. So basically about a ~30x leverage limit long at that spot limit buy would have technically survived and would have caught a 24% wick. It was probably closer to like 38% and then it dumped back down to a 24% catch, but I don't recall it exactly. Point is I know what I've got :) Proper refinement is al I need
>>58941121And I’m saying if you had the programming knowledge to be able to properly back test your strategy, it would reveal the weak points to you that you aren’t aware of right now.
>>58941140Kek. >>58941055
>>58941142That is quite literally my entire fucking point, moron. That if I had proper backtesting, I could find all weaknesses and weed them out. Iirc I literally caveman backtested by a few years and the success rate was about 90% or so. Again, you can't just win 19 mother fucking times in a row through some sheer luck 50/50 coinflip. That shit doesn't happen. That in itself shows it's not just some throwing darts bullshit
>>58941151The fact that you’re talking about taking 30x leveraged trades with a bot strategy makes this conversation even funnier desu. So your strategy would have almost caught two big bottoms in the last 4 years… where else would it have been triggered programmatically anon? You don’t even know because you are “manually back testing”
>>58941147Kek what? I btfod that already. Getting desperate?
>>58941162>The fact that you’re talking about taking 30x leveraged trades with a bot strategy makes this conversation even funnier desu.Non-argument. My point is just showing how accurate the thing I look at is, retard>So your strategy would have almost caught two big bottoms in the last 4 years… where else would it have been triggered programmatically anon?Fucking LOL. Dumbfuck. I have multiple methods in mind. The ones I described there are super macro moves that caught a 50% dump and technically a 24% wick in a day's time. That's ONE method. I have about 2 dozen. Mostly the same ones with small adjustments so some can be yolo trades and others can be safe ones. Also it's more than 2, but I'm not showing you shit. It's actually easier to count since those conditions rarely happen
>>58941175Damn, it’s really too bad then huh. You’d be 8-9 figures, like you said, if only you had the skills to profit from your strategy. Tough burden to bear.
>>58941197So.. another non-argument LOLEat a dick, faggot
>>58941175>I have about 2 dozenJack of all trades, master of none. Refuses to describe his methodology in fear of criticism. Yeah, lmao. Its a nothinburger.>>58941140Alright, so literally as I asked before. Putting your buys/sells in high liquidation zones before whale orders. What a faggot you are for saying no before. If its same result you arrive at in a different way, its still same result
>>58941576>Jack of all trades, master of none.That's not how it works, you fucking retard. Stopped reading there. Just what the fuck LOL. Nonsense comment
If you had a profitable system, you would use it and not be afraid of criticism against it. Not having 20 different ones lmao
>>58941606Again, that's not how it fucking works, you dumb retard. Different methods are simply different opportunities. Also again, illiterate fuck, I don't have 100% confidence in them without backtesting to filter out any clogged shit in the system first. Can you dumb retards learn to read english before coming to an english board?
>>58941641Well I do have confidence with a few for spot buys (long term holds), but that's not the same. That's very slow and steady gains while the one with more opportunities for compounding (like the one that yielded 19 wins in a row) is the one in need of backtesting. That one has the potential of compounding stupidly hard with the right effort invested into it.
>>58941641whats your portfolio total right now anon? 4-5 figures? >tfw the only thing standing between me and 7-8 figs (eventually 9-10) is my lack of knowledge in coding trading bots you sound unhinged
>>58941652Went back down to 5 figs since my emotional side screwed me at the very tail end of the last bull. The issue was ignoring my analysis because I got greedy/emotional. My analysis on the macro was right, but my greedy side won. Also it's not that I sound "unhinged". It's that you feel very insecure over someone being able to see something that you can't. I already know the potential of my methods. Again, they just need refinement.Again, dumbfuck, you can't just win 19 times in a row through sheer luck. Probability doesn't work like that. Shit like that doesn't just "happen" the same way you won't flip heads 19 times in a row. You're low IQ for thinking otherwise
>>58941668:)
>>58941668you're talking about growing a 5 fig portfolio into 9-10 anon....unhinged. at some point you can only trade size on longer timeframes anyway, which you don't need a bot for.
>>58941673you dumb retard, nobody is suggesting trading is a coin flip but you. I've definitely hit 19 trades before too. scalping during a crab is easy mode. the problem is being confidently wrong once wipes out a lot of gains.
>>58941688Nigger, my point is that method was better than a coinflip aka had good odds (MUCH better than 50%) to even yield those results. You're genuinely slow as hell.
>>58941687Nigger I almost hit 7 last bull (which is where my greedy kicked in and overpowered my analytical side). Just shut the fuck up, newfag. You don't know crypto
>>58941697kek, not from scalping like a bot you didn't. from buying low caps and riding them up...just like the rest of us. I've been doing this since 2014. I've hit million dollar trades before too. you really aren't special....just retarded. I'm starting to think this whole thread is a larp desu, where you're just pretending to be a this dense.
>>58941708>I-I was here since 2014 and almost hit 7 figs tooKys
>>58941693I'm sure it is under certain market conditions. then the market moves beyond your bots params and you are either sidelined or bagholding. then what? cut losses or fomo in. just like the rest of us. you don't need a bot, you need to get your head straightened out so that you aren't overly greedy or emotional...as you said.
>>58941712no, I didn't say I almost hit 7 figs. I said I've hit million dollar trades. more than once. this market is easy come, easy go. we've all made money, and we've all been wrecked. you have some mental issues though that seems to make you think you got tricked or something, but your bot wont
>>58941716>I'm sure it is under certain market conditions.Yes, crab markets. We've been over this, inbred >then the market moves beyond your bots params and you are either sidelined or bagholding. God damn, you're an idiot.Bot accounts would be their own shit. Not related to typical spot longs, moron. Holy fucking shit, they aren't mutually exclusive. Just what the hell is wrong with your brain? Holy shit, you're dumb. On top of that THAT IS LITERALLY THE FUCKING POINT OF BACKTESTING. FUUUUUUCK, you're an actual MORON. Do you even know what backtesting is? Define it right now. I am 100% convinced you're clueless on it
>>58941724>mental issues>because I want to refine my methodsLmfao the projection. Go see a therapist. Well that shit doesn't work so.. just go kys I guess, kek
>>58941725anon, log off and go outside. you are not well.
>>58941732You can't even define backtesting, can you?>g-go outside :((( Please stop beating my ass. I won, okay? Pwease let me have this :( kek
>>58941731then refine then and quit crying on a basket weaving forum about how unfair it is that you don't have the skill needed to do what you want to do. seriously, just shut the fuck up and go write your bots you fucking pushover.
>>58941739I can't refine it properly. I'm not a coder. We've been over this. You might have dementia coupled by bad reading comprehension
>>58941742and you have a weak will, so you can't learn either. pity OP everyone. he could have been a billionaire, but he's not a coder.
>>58941746>weak willNo, I'm just realistic. Everyone has their own strengths. Look at people like kevin o leary. Guy can't code for shit, but has people smarter than him work under him. The smart thing is to find people that are good at specific things rather than trying to be the one that is good at everything since no one is good at everything
>>58941746>>58941750See this is what I mean actually. Coder = smarter than me... yet the dumb bitch can't figure out something as fundamental as this because it's not one of his strengths. His brain is not wired in a way that allows for scalability such as building an empire which I can probably do one day.
>>58941750>>58941757jfc, imagine being this retarded. >I'm a trading genius but I'm also dumb so I can't profit from itsounds like you aren't a trading genius then are you faggot.
>>58941641Okay, so you havent tested you system thoroughly and you are reluctant to share the details as such. That is fine. There's definitely lots of opportunities. You should focus on having a couple solid ways to take profit. Dont have yourself spread thin over many strategies. It either works or it doesnt and only way to find out for sure is to livetest
>>58941770He hasnt yet hit the point of depression and despair on the dunning kruger scale lol. Give him time to get some experience
>>58941770>jfc, imagine being this retarded.I literally have to dumb shit down I went over already lmao>sounds like you aren't a trading genius then are you faggot.dumb stupid ass nigger. We've been over this. My methods are incomplete. The methods in themselves are good, but they need refinement. Why so you choose to be slow? Why did you drink the mercury? >Okay, so you havent tested you system thoroughlyI did manually, stupid fuck. You and your low IQ disingenuous takes. Just mad because I don't give a flying fuck about your arbitrage bullshit, kek. But again, like I said a trillion times already, caveman backtesting is okay for getting a ballpark, but not getting it down to a science
>>58941778Nigger I've hit rock bottom multiple times and have been in the markets longer than you. You're not on my level. This is probably your year one lolIt's ironic that you talk about dunning kruger when you're just describing yourself. Maybe when the twink bitch does their first cycle you can talk to me.
>>58941771>reluctant to share the details as suchThe thing is you're not entitled to them :) I found the methods on my own. You can bitch and moan all you want, but I'm not giving them to you
>>58941781no, I get it man. I'm an incredible boxing strategy, but my hands just move to slow. I would probably be the greatest boxer in the world right now, but I was just born this way with slow hands. it sucks
>>58941794Your example is retarded. Define backtesting if you want me to humor your low IQ further You clearly don't even know what it is.
>>58941797nigger...you're the one that doesn't understand backtesting! you've never even done it before! running an algo on historical data is beyond the scope of your understanding, so you came crying here about it.
>>58941800I actually have done backtesting before with some shit code where it didn't even do exactly what I wanted so it wasn't giving me accurate results. I'll just dumb it down for you since you can't figure it out. Backtesting is basically when your code is tested to see how it would have performed in the past i.e. past 10 years. It measures the total successes and failures while also telling you the roi and when it failed. Happy? You learned something new
anyway, good chat. sometimes I larp on chinese pussy whistling forumns too. was fun. great bate
Wow this thread is still going, retard delusional OP has never heard the phrase money talks bullshit walks apparently kekeke
>>58941811well at least you learned what backtesting is from me. If you ever need help learning more basic terms, just let me know
>>58941812Yes money talks.. I got 19 trades right in a row. That's literally me putting my money where my mouth is, you cock gurgling faggot
>>58941819wow 19 whole trades nigger, good for you. I made 10,000% on options in Covid nigger suck my taint and git gud
>>5894182719 trades in a row is not "normal", you stupid fucking mouth breathing retardAlso what you describe, even if not some faggot tier larp, is not replicable while my method is replicable (namely during boring ass crab markets). Dumb fucking idiot, LOL
>retard discovers scalpingI'm a trading god!!!
>>58941827For you, mouth breathing cock gurgling moron: >>58941673So easy, right? :) Do it. :) Ya that's what I thought. Go back on munching on cock LOL
>>58941849>wahhhh I can replicate my luck! I made 19 trades wahhhhThen where’s the fucking money nigger faggot, surely you came to /biz/ to post lambo and dab on us poors right, not to whine about how you COULD be rich right? Dumbass
>>58941792>Hasn't even hit six figures, let alone 7. A lot of brag for someone below middle class. Its okay though. You will get there one day
>>58941857Nigger I've done scalping on my first month in crypto. The difference is the methods I have now actually have potential. sloooooow as heeeeell lmfao I keep having to repeat myself. Also lol at you coming back
>>58941858How about you post your trading account then faggot
>>58941859You can't read, nigger faggot? It's incomplete. Even though it made a lot of money, the last trade wiped it. It's not good unless it gets refined to account for those losses This is legitimately probably around the 20th time I had to explain this same fucking shit LOL. Inbred>>58941863A lot of cope from a fucking idiot that didn't know what backtesting was until I explained it LOL Go back to your imaginary 7 figs you made multiple times tho. Fucking idiot LOL
>>58941863for the record if you were here since 2014 and still didn't make it, you're actually a genetic dead end. I'd have kms >>58941865Why would I do that? Sure, I can look for the window and screenshot it, but the. you dumb niggers would just find a new reason to bitch and moan. I don't care if you don't believe my 19 win in a row (fyi I had multiple instances of multiple wins in a row when I was doing this. 19 just happens to be the longest streak. Some averaged 7-9 which is still a lot. But again, incomplete method).
>>58941872>duhhh I lost it! How about I repeat myself then retard, MONEY TALKS BULLSHIT WALKS. You lost it all, you’re a poorfag larping loser trying to dab on shitcoin addicts, good day nigger
>>58941872Unless its a bot, backtesting wont do much aside from very basic insight. Having benefit of hindsight makes retards truly think they are gods who are about to make 9 figs. Oh and chasing whale orders then giving it off as "your profitable strategy" is laughable.
>>58941886>for the record if you were here since 2014 and still didn't make it, you're actually a genetic dead end. I'd have kmsYou were here in 2014 and you still havent hit six figs? LMAOOOOOO
>>58941901...? The other anon was here since 2014. Not me. God damn, learn to read, idiot>>58941893>basic insight Can you not open your mouth anymore? Many stupid people are here, but you have them all beat >>58941890Yes money talks.. 19 wins in a row is my money talking :)It shows it had potential. Look at this pic:>>58941673:)Then take a probability class. You sorely need it
>>58941919And since I'm dealing with low IQ inbreds, that pic is relevant since it shows that the method I used for the 19 wins had a much greater win rate than 50%. When I manually backtested it (ballpark/halfasses), it was about a 90% win rate in over 2 years or so. I think I went even further back, but whatever.
>>58941919>muh 95% winrate!Is different than having cold hard cash in hand retard, how many times I gotta say it? A martingale strategy has a 99.999% winrate over a long enough time period, but that one loss makes you lose it all. You’re an idiot, I’m sorry to say. Throwing more numbers at me that aren’t a bank account with 1mm+ does literally nothing to help your case
>>58941936How many times do I have to say it :)The method yielded 19 wins. That means it has potential when refined.Your retard bitch ass brain doesn't have the power to see potential. You only see "what's available now" when I clearly stated it's incomplete. It's like baking a cake and wanting it when it's half made instead of fully formed. Inbred logic
>>58941919That was me, and I’m not the one who didn’t make it. Yes I’ve been trading crypto since 2014 and I'm not poor. We are shit posting in the middle of the day after all while wagies work.
>>58940825>>58940831>>58940833post your 5 year summary
If any of you were capable of the shit you're arguing about i doubt you'd be posting on the underwater basket weaving forum about it. Go outside or something.
i have a feeling this retard is white line anonanyway if you can't learn to code in like 1 month you have brain damageand absolutely no right to talk to other people as your peers, let alone insult them lmao
>>58942559You dumb niggers don't know how to read. Biz is jeeet IQ >>58941952You didn't make it, lmao. Prove it, faggot>>58942622You're a dumb stupid homeless nigger if you think that coding can be learned in a month
>>58942724>You're a dumb stupid homeless nigger if you think that coding can be learned in a monthkek no, not only i code but i've also seen women learning it more or less that fastyou are just very very stupid, that's all
>>58942766OP has a humiliation fetish or something
>>58942766Stop the cap, you dumb faggot. Most people will learn in a month is very basic shit that isn't even useable. Not straight up writing your own shit that works exactly how you want.
>>58942775Nah, you dumb niggers are simply in denial You dumb faggots don't understand probability. If you did, you'd realize why this pic matters: >>58941673It's basically like a bunch of retards ganging up together and thinking they are doing something while I'm just bitch slapping left and right
>>58942777it's not some kind of black magic anon, you are just too dumb
>>58942786Oh, you're right! I'll be a rocket engineer by thinking about it... aand done. I know engineering now. Wow, that was fucking easy! Retard kek
>>58942793this exact comparison makes it immediately clear that you are dumb as fuck and have no idea what you are talking aboutit's not rocket science at all, a trading bot doesn't have some advanced logic or optimization shenanigans, you literally have to write words to explain the computer what do you want to dotoday it's even easier with fucking chat gpt, you can literally ask it "hey write me a function that does this"math is not even involveddo you know how many pajeets are coders? literally anyone with a brain can grasp it in one month and become good in like 2-3you are just retarded or lazy, no other explanation
>>58942802I tried chatgpt. It wasn't able to do specific things even after asking it to clarify like 5 times in a row. It says something like "sure, for this function just type this thing in" yet it didn't actually do what it said it did You are a capping faggot
>>58942808that's because you are retarded or lack the very basics (that anyone can learn in 4 weeks)i code since 2015 and i'm cto of a small company now, i had dozens of very retarded interns that still could codei know what i'm talking about, you don't, you should just shut up and listen
>>58942808By "it didn't do what I said to do", I mean the code wasn't doing what it said it was capable of doing. The issue is there is no real reference I know to use to get specific functions i.e. opening candles based on specific time on x time zone for instance. For instance "open a long on the second 4hr candle". Say I wanted a function like that and asked chatgpt. It straight up doesn't work. It opens a long randomly (can be seen during backtesting). Played with it for a while. Just didn't do what I wanted. A real coder would probably be able to figure stuff like this out
>>58942808post your 5 year summary
>>58942815Thing is you're pulling my leg, faggot. I'd have more motivation if I didn't think it would be a waste of effort. The walls I hit are less about it being "complex" and more about not being able to figure out why certain code that says is doing x thing doesn't actually do it meaning I need intimate knowledge that not even chatgpt has
>>58942818"a real coder" keknigga just read the code and follow jtwhat the fuck do you mean RANDOMLY? random literally doesn't exist in ITyou need a brain, not coding lessons
>>58942825"this piece of code [paste] doesn't do XX, can you explain why?"you can talk to chatgpt you know, it's way smarter than you
>>58942819No point. The accounts I have are mixed with multiple methods and once they fail, they get burnt since I was mostly just seeing how far I could take them. So for instance the 19 win in a row was making good money up until it got hit like 2 times in a row or some shit like that. So basically I'd have to adjust the strategy with backtesting. For instance finding when it fails to reduce future failures and seeing what the perfect leverage and stop loss combination is with trial and error (during backtesting). That and seeing things from a monthly and yearly performance to see the exact market conditions on the macro that yield success (though again it's mostly through crab markets for this one).!
>>58942828Okay, faggot. Let's be more specific. Pic related say I put that code in on tradingview's backtesting feature. Guess what? It won't open a long at 01:00 UTC nor close it at 02:00 UTC even though it says that's the right code for it. It's not. So how the fuck am I supposed to figure out the right code for it? I can ask chatgpt again "Didn't work. Fix it" and it will keep giving me different code that simply won't do it This is what I mean. I can't see myself figuring it out just by "studying forums" or "asking chatgpt to clarify a million more times".
>>58942832Ya, I tried that: >>58942855Played with it for a few hours. My main issue isn't a grind. I can grind. The issue is I think it would be a fruitless grind.
>>58942855i have no idea where to test it, do i have to register?did you get something like this one?
>>58942883Tradingview desktop has the feature. You go to "pine editor", then "add to chart", then "strategy tester". //@version=5indicator("Long Position at Specific Times", overlay=true)// Define time intervals for opening and closing positionsopenHour = 1 // 01:00 UTCcloseHour = 2 // 02:00 UTC// Convert hours to minutes since the start of the dayopenTime = timestamp(year(timenow), month(timenow), dayofmonth(timenow), openHour, 0)closeTime = timestamp(year(timenow), month(timenow), dayofmonth(timenow), closeHour, 0)// Check if the current time is within the specified intervalinOpenPeriod = (timenow >= openTime and timenow < closeTime)inClosePeriod = (timenow >= closeTime)// Entry and exit conditionsif (inOpenPeriod and not inOpenPeriod[1]) strategy.entry("Long", strategy.long)if (inClosePeriod and not inClosePeriod[1]) strategy.close("Long")is what I getI didn't test this one specifically, but I was doing it the other day and it just wasn't opening longs/shorts at the right times
>>58942883and ya I'm pretty sure you need an account it's free
>>58939460Hey OP, I did some work with gekko bot probably 6 or 7 years ago and there were some add ons for it where you could really do some monster backtesting. I did millions of backtests against historical data but couldn’t ever get anything I could use cause I would always just overfit the parameters to the past data and then of course the performance wouldn’t match up in real life. I am NOT any kind of great genius programmer AT ALL and I was able to figure it out so it might help you.
>>58942920>overfit the parameters to the past datathis is why every investment prospectus: past results do not predict future results. every recession and bull market is slightly different. you're better off trying to figure out the macro data and holding for 5-8 years at a time.
>>58942893Hmmm... actually it seemingly worked this time (after chatgpt corrected a few errors). Not a good example of the issue I ran into.
>>58942981well at least I think it worked
>>58942992Hmm. Fuck it. I'll try again even though it's pointless. When I put my total method, it flops though but whatever. I'll play around for a few hours again
>>58943032Okay okay. I'm making progress. Was able to get it to perfectly match an indicator I use that has the code hidden
>>58943083Hmm. Spoke too soon. It lags by one. For example one day/week/month depending on the time frame.
>>58943083>>58943094there you go, you'll figure it outremember that llms are parrots, they don't really understand and they can hallucinatetry to understand the single parts, the building blocks, read the documentation if some line really looks like alien languageyou are already coding
I can't do it. I'll keep trying I guess. Or I'll just have to hire a guy off of fiver eventually since my bags will probably be worth 6 figs again before I can even learn anything significant Idk, man. This is 1x, but like I really feel it should be much higher than that. It's also entering a lot of trades wrong.. so it's funny that it's still profitable despite that
>>58943356I guess sometimes less is more, kek. Only 13 trades for this one and outperforms 318.
>>58943360>>58943356Fyi this is basically a "1x with usd" so basically if you close the trade with btc as the collateral, you get any potential btc gains too so basically it's outperforming btc by ~7% on a 1x But again that's bullshit. I know my method would squeeze out more (this isn't the complete method either).
>>58943356>>58943360I notice people stopped shit talking when I pull up. This is with paki hindu code. Imagine with good code. Just imagine it.
