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Glorious Gold Edition

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/ (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

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Oh look, another britannia themed general
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How do we cope with 1 Bitfuck being worth more than 1kg of gold?
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>>59268290
By the fact that it's outside the system and metals being real.
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>>59268290
we ask ourselves how this came to be
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>>59268307
Don't reply to shills they get paid for every (you) without having to engage in any meaningful way.
Imagine this gif everytime you see somebody spitting utter venom at what has historically always been real money.
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Bitcoin is beating silver by 55,500%

Hmmmm. Mr Market has spoken and yall are btfo. There is no recovery from this. You lost. And that's not even counting the 40% premium you paid, the taxes and discounts you will get charged when you sell. Gas, the wear and tear. Your time shilling here. All for a 55,500% loss. Epic!

This is some psychic pain. Lmao
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>>59268504
Are you retarded? It started from zero, it has literally infinite gains on everything.
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Eternal Treasure
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Filter early and often. Do not engage.
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Still sorting through my late grandpa's change. I have about 25+ rolls of pennies to sort through.
All post '81 pennies are going to the coinstar. I'm definitely keeping the pre '82 pennies, nickels and quarters.
Do you think I should bother keeping the dimes? I intend to get an Amazon gift card and buy some silver on there. I know it's overpriced but this is thee one time I'd buy from there.
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>>59268814
1982 pennies are sometimes copper too (buy a cheap digital scale (pic related) off amazon
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>>59268814
Dude cash it out for Bitcoin you will be a millionaire or keep it and it's worth less than a mcdouble
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>>59268814
why not order some silver rounds from costco online or one of those refilable cards and hit one of the bullion sellers in op? if your willing to buy overpriced from scamazon, and lose 10%, take the extra step imo and go a safer route.

rule of thumb, if you can see copper in the ridges its junk. otherwise, yes, keep the dimes, worth more than the nickles in melt.
>https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
from OP
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>>59268410

>if someone disagrees with you they must have been paid to do so!

The absolute state
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>>59268504

I still hold some silver unfortunately, it’s funny when there’s a silver “shortage” the premiums to buy go up but the spot price stays the same so basically it costs more to buy but you don’t get more when you sell LOL
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>>59269100
Full article here.
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>>59269008
>1982 pennies are sometimes copper too
I know, that's why I'm putting '82+ in with the ones going and keeping 1981 and older.
>scale
I do have a reloading scale already, but a backup wouldn't be bad.
>>59269100
>costco online or one of those refilable cards and hit one of the bullion sellers in op? if your willing to buy overpriced from scamazon, and lose 10%, take the extra step imo and go a safer route.
I don't have a Costco membership, and they don't do refillable cards at the machines by me.
Though I could ask a family member for cash for the Amazon card.
Now, back to my question, is it also worth putting in the dimes or should I save them?
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>>59269199
you can go to the bank and load up on dimes, nickels, and quarters any time you want. Half dollars too I guess.
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>>59269217
>any time you want
That's not the point here, fren. But thanks.
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>>59269233
well whatever works for you then. When they got rid of silver coins it took something like 60 years for them to become valuable enough to sell in small quantities, and even then I doubt the sellers made back what it cost to store them for 60 years. Assuming the original stackers were still alive 60 years later, which is unlikely.

I'd guess cupronickel might take even longer to pay off, but I don't have a crystal ball or anything. Personally I don't stack copper or nickel.
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>>59269217
>>59269233
I suppose I should share a pic of the results so far. There's still half a jar full of pre '82 pennies and more to sort (1/2)
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>>59269286
I think I remember this hoard. Was it almost a year ago you got it?
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>>59269284
>don't stack copper or nickel
Yeah me neither in terms of getting change from my local NTB branch ;)
...but since this is from my deceased grandpa I might as well consider it heirloom change.
Pic 2/2 is what I have left to contend w/
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>>59269311
>since this is from my deceased grandpa I might as well consider it heirloom change.
sounds like a good plan.

I'd definitely go look up mint error dates and sort to see if there's anything valuable before you cash in whatever you decide not to keep.
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>>59268814
Coin autist here, keep any 2009s, 1982 small date is copper. Also some other keydates 83 P double die, 84 P double ear, 92 D or P close AM, 94 P double die, 95 P or D double die, 97 P double ear, 98 - 00 Wide AM, 15 double die.
Just some that come to mind
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>>59269295
Earlier this year, April I think.
>>59269327
>mint error dates
Definitely going to give that a shot once I get through the initial sorting.
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>>59269286
Keep stacking those pennies. Copper & Zinc are comically undervalued as well and just a few years ago the price of base metals were randomly popping off 10X price spikes.
If $4 copper does a 10x you have $40 per pound which you can obtain for the low price of $1.52 (1 pound of 95% copper pennies).
See pic related: People may be all sorts of paper millionaires but the actual change floating around the globe is actually quite scarce. If credit collapses people will be looking under their couch cushions for this stuff. Remember Covid? Banks stopped handing out change except for businesses. The Feds were very nervous of a collapse that they started giving away free cash, but also they shut down physical coinage. (Hyperinflating currencies get replaced once the debts are cleared. The old coinage gets reused because it is costly to create and distribute.)
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>>59269286
Imagine putting all your energy into literal pennies when you can easily make $100 an hour doing anything or start a business and get rich. What causes such small thinking and low expectations for your own worth?
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>>59269368
>Zinc
I think it'll be worth consolidating the post '81 pennies into silver. The more I think about it, I'm definitely going to do the dimes too. Hopefully someone in my family will want to give me cash for my Amazon code that I'll then take said cash to my LCS for generics. Or silver dollars. There's a few places I haven't tried yet that I'll call around.
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>>59269426
>easily make $100 an hour doing anything or start a business
Because it's fun and how do you easily make $100 an hour?
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>>59269426
People don't usually believe how much their time is worth until they actually own or manage a business.

like literally, they can't imagine making $100 per hour mowing lawns or mopping floors self-employed. They sincerely don't believe it's possible that their contract janitor at work gets paid 5-10 times what they do.
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Let me join all digital gold chads of /pmg/ and thank president trump for saving bitcoin from the predations of Gary Gensler , Pocahontas and Bill Nye. Good over Evil
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>>59269452
I clean offices for over $100 per hour. I do environmental cleanup for over $250 per hour. Usually I pay people $20 per hour and then charge over $100 per hour, but you get the idea.
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>>59269471
>thank president trump
There's a good chance he'll kill the economy just like Harris would have, just in different ways. Especially with BTC and how rehypothecation of debt is the only reason numbers on the screen go up.
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>>59269443
I think you're right. Any sizable amount of value stashed away in base metal coinage is better off being converted into silver.
With that said, under no circumstance do I ever turn in my coins unless I plan to invest it or pay off a debt.
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>>59269478
Ok that makes sense. I was waiting for crypto wizard to babble on about ETFs and other fake economy bullshit. Last year my aunt paid me $400 a month to mow her lawn every other week. It was about $100/hr.
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>>59269513
yeah not sure what he was talking about but I'd guess it's owning a business. The gross rate is over $100 per hour for most labor in the US now.
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>>59269513
>I was waiting for crypto wizard to babble on about ETFs and other fake economy bullshit.
he's wrong anyways.
not everything is about making money. I make enough money but I still collect aluminum cans to recycle, and sort my change looking for mint errors. Sometimes I actually waste time and money just for fun. Like when I'm posting here.

he's doing the same thing. He's not getting paid to be here, and if he is getting paid it's not much.
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>>59269478
how long have you been doing that for? always businesses and not private homes?
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>>59269663
Businesses, government, and industrial. When I first started I cleaned houses but that's a huge pain in the ass. Much harder work.

I've been doing it 22 years now.
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>>59269494
I don't think he will kill it and i don't think he can save it, but he bought time. And he caused bitcoin to go up 50% this month. Animal spirits are afoot and 2025 is maybe the last chance to get rich quick off crypto. Another 2x-5x gonna be nice insulation from the poors
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>>59269513
>ETFs and other fake economy bullshit

Lmao what a loser mentality. You really drank the koolaid

>dad why are we poor
>i chose to invest in real stuff like pennies because i read on an incel scam forum that modern finance is fake
>thanks dad, i sure appreciate this real cardboard box we live in whatever happened to your plan to get rich off pennies?
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>>59269812
he's right, it takes 40 years or so for the average murrican to become a millionaire investing in stocks and index funds.

even investing in BTC righ now you'd probably need $100k and a couple decades of waiting to become a millionaire. If bitcoin hasn't been cracked by then.
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>>59269841
That's not even what he said. He says ETFs are fake. Retard think. He's a broke moron sorting thru pennies who thinks he has it all figured out. He "knows" he's a poor loser so in fact he is.

Like all the retard stackers here he wastes his life on a scam. Retards have no business investing in anything unless they have six figures
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>>59269959
I absolutely have it all figured out. You're the >>59269812
>koolaid
Drinker. You don't hold it, you don't own it.
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>>59269959
>no business investing in anything unless they have six figures
Oh wait...
Post your 6 figures. And that's just me being a complete retard and gambling.
Post portfolio or shut the fuck up.
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>>59269841
Lol my dude, I started just this cycle with two coins at 34k each in December, sold them at 71k in Q2 this year for 37k x2 profit. I then put my 142k into BTC at 60k, and will be selling 2.36 BTC for 236k when this pops at 100k. This is by no means a liberal outlook and without a doubt one of the most conservative plays out of anymore here. I’ll then pivot into known altcoins for a minimum 3x return, again extremely safe and exiting in 2025 with about 600k after taxes. This is completely passive income and nothing to do with my normal day job. If Trump makes good on his no tax on crypto policy, I’m going to absolutely BTFO anything you would make.
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>>59270047
that's active trading, not passive investing.

but good job. I doubt 99.9% of americans can do that, since in fact they don't.
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>>59269812
>Incel scam forum
This is how we know your a kike. Try and touch silver Jew.
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>>59270063
That’s also one of the worst return rates out of all of my friends who are up 5x or so because they moved in at 2022 with 16k. Like I said these are the most normie smoothbrain plays available. Doge is probably going to 15x.
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>>59270077
agreed, maybe.

but crypto is not stocks or funds, and most people can't afford to sit and watch a single ticker every day for years. The average american dumps some cash into a retirement account every month and takes an entire lifetime to become a millionaire.
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>>59270077
actually I'm exaggerating here
>>59270085

since the average american will never be a millionaire. But of those that become millionaires, it usually takes their entire adult life to get there.
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>>59270085
>takes an entire lifetime to become a millionaire
And even that's not guaranteed. The best hedge towards wealth is building a good base of PMs. These shills ITT want us to pump their bags. We fill our own here.
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Are you in this for investing or do you like collecting for numismatic value too
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>>59270085
CRYPTO BASTARDS WON LEAVE UNTIL EVERYONE IN /pmg/ JOINS THEM. DO NOT RESIST.
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>>59270132
I don't even believe in regular fiat, crypto is just like a token it's not even backed by any government.
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>>59270132
>scam fake guru wants others to pump his bags
No shit.
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>>59270137
>don't even believe in regular fiat, crypto is just like a token
Exactly what the common public idiot doesn't understand. Everything is built around hype instead of what used to be called common sense. BTC will lead to additional inflation and ultimately more bank collapses.
And us w/ silver will sit back and enjoy our lives while people who formerly had big numbers on a screen will be living in poverty.
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>>59270128
both
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>>59270132
Buy at the top! This asset class hasn't totally imploded from $60,000 down to $16,000 in the past. Be sure to buy at the top! Don't want to miss the tendies! You'll be a millionaire!
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>>59270132
I think a person can do whatever they want, including both crypto and metals, or neither crypto nor metals

I'm just not sure why crypto is getting shilled in the metals thread. Seems like the wrong place.
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>>59270185
They want more people in on the ponzi scheme. It's obvious.
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>>59270185
Anyone investing in crypto may be somewhat familiar with the concept of reckless money printing and the financial world may not be totally safe. These people are researching how to make money and stumbled upon BTC and have herd the shill-talking points.
These people are confused and perturbed by the fact that they are so excited for crypto but the longest running general on /biz/ is mostly against it. They understand that PMG is a threat to them, but being amateurs who have no idea what it is they are doing they really don't know how to handle it that people can just sit around investing in something that apparently makes no gains. They don't understand it, but they can sense the danger it poses to them. It points to them being wrong and they really don't have the talking points to defeat it either.
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>>59270196
>>59270180
>>59270142
>>59270137
It's good these poor retards don't understand and invest in crypto. I would rather have the smartest and richest people in the world supporting it

Let these broke luddites stew in their misery
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>>59270196
My friend Stacey bought dog food with BTC yesterday. We're reaching peak saturation when the average wiccan girlboss on the street is buying the stuff. Time will tell how long the game can last, but usually the more people pile in the smaller the returns become.
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>>59270230
>the longest running general on /biz/


Lmao, the one where everyone loses money and eventually leaves and the fresh fish save up for weeks to buy a 1 ounce round for $98
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>>59270240
If we can just get everyone in the world to buy .01 BTC, we will be giga rich anon.
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>>59270280
If we could get everyone in the world to buy an ounce of silver we'd also be rich
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>>59270294
But silver is actually needed so we can’t have people buying it all up. If people owned all the silver, the world would be screwed. That’s why Bitcoin is better. One person could own all the bitcoin in the world and nothing would stop working.
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>>59269670
my first business was cleaning, worked up to 400 cleaners in a major US city
then i got into finance because margins are shit and illegals work for 5 dollars an hour
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>>59270266
I'm going to my fundamental & historical analysis. You'll be sucking dick for Mercury Dimes because no one will want your cuck-coins when real-world scarcity reasserts itself.
The amount of IOUs the financial system has to shit out like toxic waste is all you need to know the thing is ruined. The Fed ruined their balance sheet in 2008 and there is no way to walk it back without revaluing gold as that is the only asset on their balance sheet to keep them solvent. The world is going to get rugpulled and cuck-coins will be the LAST thing people trust.
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>>59270329
we'll make more silver.
>>59270356
true facts. Where I live if a biz employes illegals their competitors will sue them into the ground. But then they just change their name and go right back to work.

margins are why I got into industrial enviro. Much higher profits, but a lot more red tape.
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>>59270280
I'm already rich. There's four times more millionaires as there are bitcoins. I'm the super elite despite what poors do
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>>59270416
>I'm already rich.
and we totally believe you
you once stayed at a vietnamese beach resort that allows americans to stay for free.
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>>59270369
in my city the companies generally hire citizens, the illegals work for themselves and they just outnumber everyone. despite charging way less they also work harder and theres just no competing with them at manual labor. after 10 years id stacked entire neighborhoods of rich people because they didnt trust illegals to not steal their shit so it was ok. until covid forced me to lay off every single employee and kill my business overnight. without illegals i would have been 10x bigger, maybe 200mm+ annual territory. still made it tho so whatever
back in 2010 i started cleaning houses myself, had a few houses a month id make 1k per house off of. stupid fucking easy work too. kills any office job even if you have no interest in scaling it
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>>59270441
I'm fine with a million a year gross and have no interest in growing. I'm lazy. But it's an easy business to break into and one of the easier ones to scale.
congratulations on your success, I know a few people that have done what you did. I'd guess you're set for life.
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>>59270360
>You'll be sucking dick for Mercury Dimes
I'm first in line! And I'm going to get two of those robot dogs, strap dildos on them and program them to spit roast IQDELETE until their batteries run out.
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>>59270416
I’m talking giga rich though. We’ll start with these losers and get them to buy, then we get a one on one with Trump and get the US to buy. Once that happens the rest of the world will follow. When everyone is in, we cash out and bam! giga rich.
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>>59270240
>don't understand and invest in crypto
I have more in BTC than you have in all your assets combines, and probably your family's assets too >>59269989
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>>59269728
>I don't think he will kill it and i don't think he can save it, but he bought time. And he caused bitcoin to go up 50% this month. Animal spirits are afoot and 2025 is maybe the last chance to get rich quick off crypto. Another 2x-5x gonna be nice insulation from the poors
It's not even just that Trump isn't competent enough to clean up this mess he is also having most of the world try to fuck with him as hard as possible. The powers that be want to drop this entire circus on his head. Trump can pump everybody full of hopium until Janurary 20th and then who knows what will happen. The national debt can't even pretend to be paid off in normal ways now. Trump could order wave after wave of military to confiscate mehican cartel gold to keep everything goint a bit longer. There are many things Trump can do to keep CONfidence in the economy on the surface to keep the hopium train choo chooing a bit longer. Grade A hopium from Trump is really the main ingredient keeping the global economy from shitting blood right now. Without him the stock market would have exploded overnight from the election and Putin would have already launched the nukes from no hope of any sort of diplomacy. The top 10% of burgers own most of the stock market so it's not like that is a real metric on the health of the overall economy.
I refuse to believe that everything will just get better without anything batshit happening first.
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>>59270483
True, when the united states sets up its strategic bitcoin reserve that will cause a quick double then china joins in $1,000,000 per bitcoin
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>>59270530
trump talks nonstop shit he’s such a jew i cant take him seriously, but if he actually sets up a reserve you’re probably right
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>>59270530
Exactly now you are getting it. But your numbers are a bit low. There is no reason bitcoin can’t hit $500 trillion in market cap if we sucker everyone in!
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>>59270530
>china
They're absolutely buying more silver and gold. They'll weaponize BTC against the west.
>>59270251
>average wiccan girlboss on the street is buying the stuff
They spend money on things other than overpriced crystals?!?
For real though they seem like the demographic to buy PMs over crypto.
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>>59270530
>when the united states sets up its strategic bitcoin reserve
I don't think you understand how the US works

they're not going to make a reserve out of something they don't control. That's third world thinking
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>>59270626
considering they can impliment a single law and crash the market if they want, they kind of do
in reality we seem to be talking about israel given aipac has paid everyone off, they prefer this kind of control given they have no real military to speak of
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>>59270530
So the economy goes hopelessly in debt consuming EVERYTHING it made, neglecting it's manufacturing base, neglecting its infrastructure, building a service economy instead of investing in production for 80 years straight. And all of this is going to be ok because of crypto?
Scarcity is NOT ENOUGH to justify any semblance of purchasing power. The world is fundamentally going to be impoverished because we over consumed and underproduced.

If the government has any capacity to revalue BTC it will be solely on the back of their gold holdings. So why, then, not just own the real deal and avoid the counterparty risk? Historical analysis proves they revalue metals to fight deflation and the GSR proves silver is undervalued.
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>>59270648
whoever's in charge, it doesn't matter. I'm just guessing they make a new electronic coin to replace the dollar so they have full control from day one.

bitcoin would make a lot of average people rich, and the US government isn't in the business of making random people rich.
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You guys are forgetting that crypto is helping the US finance its debt. We have to grow this thing to $500 trillion and the world will be saved.
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>>59270726
>crypto is helping the US finance its debt
Robbing Peter to pay Paul..
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>>59270673
it does matter who’s in charge because creating such a reserve will pump things 10x and they just insider trade non-stop
trump is also just a grandpa and likes seeing shit that makes kids happy, he is uniquely that person that’d do it for the kids. even though he’s a gigantic jew
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No one wants to hear the opinion on crypto from people who have been wrong about crypto for ten years. Also poors, no one needs your opinions on finances, if you are poor you are wrong about finances. Make $500,000 in business or the stock market or crypto until then stfu
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>>59270913
>Make $500,000 in business or the stock market or crypto until then stfu
it's all relative. $500k is poor to the average US millionaire.

conversely a stack worth $2k is more money than most americans have on hand.
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I wish we could kill all the poors… all they had to do was buy bitcoin.
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>>59270938
>stack worth $2k is more money than most americans have on hand
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I do have some crypto but I'm still mad PM's are still being ridiculously tamped
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You don’t have to study or start a business or invest in stocks. If everyone would just buy bitcoin and sit at home watching it go up, we all will be rich.
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>>59270944
Crypto dorks get the .45 caliber retirement plan.
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>>59270968
if everyone is rich, nobody is.

wealth comes from inequality, not equality
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>>59270981
I will die happy with my secret keys and no one will ever see my bitcoins again
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>>59270993
your secret keys will be brute-force hackable in less than 20 years. They might be hackable right now.
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>>59270938
>>59270958
>mfw ~$12k in pm in a box next to my pc
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>>59270981
>big talk
lightinging_bolt.exe
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>>59271028
Nonsense breakthrough technologies like bitcoin never become obsolete. We will finally give up on gold and silver and use only bitcoin for the next 5000 years.
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>>59270963
>PM's are still being ridiculously tamped

Retards believe this. It makes you unaccountable for your falling for an obvious scam


>>59271030
You are poor, quit falling for and obsessing over scams and get a job
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>>59271062
>We will finally give up on gold and silver and use only bitcoin for the next 5000 years.
we've had 80 years of peace. We probably won't go another 20 years without an event that renders crypto useless.
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>>59271069
Crypto literally isn't money
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>>59271069
We are trying to help them but we can’t convert them if you insult them.
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>>59271058
>lightinging_bolt.exe
speerGoldDots230grJHP.rar
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i just got 10k in gold from an inheritance.

i'm new to this, reading up, i heard that gold might crash like it did in the 80s

what do you guys think
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>>59271206
Larp
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>>59271206
Gold doesn't "crash," the US dollar moves in relation to gold. The dollar is still fundamentally a gold derivative. Hang onto it, it might save your life someday.
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>>59271206
Did you read that in the other comment you wrote 5 minutes earlier?
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>>59271234
it's kind of a lifesaver right now. i want to keep as much invested as possible though

>>59271231
apologize
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>>59271248
lol. it was a way of starting a discussion
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>>59271287
Nice buffalos
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Today's new...
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>>59271568
As much as I don't like Chuck on coins (I have 9 Britannias w/ Chuck on them), that unicorn is slick looking.
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>>59270360
>I'm going to my fundamental & historical analysis. You'll be sucking dick for Mercury Dimes because no one will want your cuck-coins when real-world scarcity reasserts itself.
If you can buy one bj for one Mercury Dime then I'm sure a few pure ounces would effectively make somebody your own personal pleasure adventure slave for about 10 years or so. Even 5 years would be wild as shit. If you effectively own them as a pleasure adventure slave you can also effectively pimp them out because without you they would be starving. Needless to say I am going to be fascinated by all of the mini warlords that will spawn from the financial reset. Power abhors a vacuum and the majority if not the vast majority of normalfags won't have anyway out of poverty in the great reset other than back breaking manual labor or being pleasure adventure slaves since they decided to keep most if not basically all of their wealth in every place but their own hands.
When the first great depression started the banks told people to get fucked when they came to withdrawal. Bonnie and Clyde had tens of thousands come to their funerals for sticking it to those very same banks. The banks pinkie promise they wouldn't do it again though :^)
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>>59271629
Yeah - it is what it is.
One cool thing about this coin - look at the diamond to the right of the date - it looks double-stamped. I thought lens reflection? Looked under a magnifying glass - it's real. It's a super faint ghost of the diamond, and the one on the left has it (towards the date) as well, though it didn't show up in this pic. The Dragon (pic related) doesn't have it.
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>>59271295
Gold was weird in the 80's
It was illegal to own for most of the prior 50 years
The price was held down artificially for the prior 2500 years, with enormous suppression for the prior 50

so price discovery was very strange. Prices went from $35- over $900 in less than 10 years, and then people thought it had gone too high. And considering inflation, it might have been too high.

now we've had a lot more time for price discovery and a crash is much less likely. We've also seen the dollar self-destruct since the 80's.

I can't predict the future, but this isn't anything like the gold markets of the 80's. We had an enormous bull run on gold and coins, which was followed by recession. That's still possible, but not very likely. The people that got burned by gold in the 80's are still buying it, and we're a lot more careful now. It's probably not going to crash. It might, but probably not.

also to be quite blunt, almost nobody was investing in gold or stocks or anything back then. The modern markets where everyone is investing is a very new thing. Billions more dollars in the market, probably trillions. And those dollars stabilize the price. Back in the 80's almost nobody invested in gold, or stocks, or anything because we had a much smaller population, and much poorer on average.

the 80's are basically a lifetime ago. Those of us that were buying gold in the 80's are now old men. Or dead. It was a long time ago and very different times. If you were 20 in 1980 you're now 64 and pushing retirement. We're talking mostly boomers. An entirely different market from today. Young people can't imagine how much things have changed, and old people don't like to think about it. Everything boomed and then crashed in the 80's, it was a decade of greed and financial bubbles as rich people tried to find ways to hold onto their wealth. That's still happening, but in much bigger ways now. The markets aren't smol anymore. Prices are much more stable.
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>>59271287
Nice inheritance!
Crash? Who knows. Clearly a lot of America has faith in Trump 'fixing' the economy, and that might make the dollar stronger and gold come down again.
I'd still recommend keeping it as-is: gold. If it crashes, buy more. If it goes up, Maybe wait for a dip.
I'm sure whoever left it to you thought it's a good idea to keep it. And it's easy to pass on a lot of wealth this way.
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>>59271739
Ohh nice! I'm not seeing it in any other pics for the same coin elsewhere.
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>>59271295
also for comparison,

in the 80's $3 per hour was a decent wage for most of the decade, and $7/hour was a rich man's wage. The dollar was simply worth much more back then. Not sure how gold prices compare when adjusted for wages, but it was probably much more expensive then at $900/oz than it is now at 3 times that.
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>>59271810
If my memory is true about wages and prices,

then wages have almost done a 10x, meaning gold would have to be at about $9000 per ounce to equal 80's prices.

we are not in an 80's style gold bubble, not even close.
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>>59271822
in fact $2700 gold would be about equivalent to $270 gold in the 80's. Close to the crash price and nowhere near the peak.
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>>59271822
my memory is wrong, the peak was in 1979 at around $640

but that still indicates about $8k gold compared to wages in my area. We are low compared to the late 70's and early 80's. Probably very low.
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>>59271923
If gold goes to $8k per ozt while wages in my area are around $25/hr we'd be back to 1979 prices.

gold can nearly triple before I'd worry about it being in an 80's style bubble.
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>>59271956
that's assuming 1979 was a bubble and the 90's were an accurate price for gold. Which may not be true. In fact gold may be much scarcer and more valuable than current market conditions indicate.

same deal with plat, silver, copper, tin, etc.
it's entirely likely that metals are underpriced when compared to real demand.
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>>59271971
>it's entirely likely that metals are underpriced when compared to real demand.
particularly as we're churning out billions of chipsets, motherboards, screens, inks, batteries, vehicles, cans and everything else using metals. The bigger and richer the world population gets, the more metal is worth.
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>>59272009
personally I'd hold onto gold. Any gold I can get.
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>>59272046
You were making more than middle class workers in my area, even your girl was making more.

in my area construction labor was making about $7 and restaurant workers made closer to $3

I'm fairly rich right now, but I expect you still make more than me.
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>>59272061
Retired now. Pension totals about $40k. It's adequate for here - $11k goes into just taxes and insurance on the house!
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>>59272145
we're old, I can live off of $24k per year now just like I did back then.
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>>59272156
Well thanks! I do wonder sometimes.
I guess being retired and still able to live off the pension and savings does qualify for 'rich'. A great explanation I heard was on the Cosby Show and paraphrasing that, "You can be wealthy but still need to work for your money. Rich is when your money works for you."
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>>59272214
I equate rich with lazy and still able to afford your hobbies

by that measure we both appear to be there.
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The most profitable company in the world. MSTR. Whose their master? Bitcoin digital gold, yeah baby!


lmao
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>>59270132
It's funny how easy it is to spot the pawns of the system, they all got the same script, and sing it in unison.

"Come on poor people, this is the future, you will be rich, there is no trap, we are here too, you can trust us, make the poor rich, it has always been our dearest wish..."

Personally, it's not a question of resistance, these people are so predictable, when you know the plan of the great reset, you don't need to be intelligent to understand that their worst enemy is the currency which is outside the system, outside their control during the implementation of their new all-digital world order, and there is only one, it's the precious metal, it's not more complicated than that.
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>>59273182
>It's funny how easy it is to spot the pawns of the system, they all got the same script, and sing it in unison.

Yep. This webm outright tells you what the trick is all about. Would love to know where the audio version of it is.
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>>59270137
>it's not even backed by any government.
Good? Like gold and silver, then.
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the oldest scam in the world is going on today.
The two or three accomplices win, to convince everyone else that there is no scam.

Buy crypto, we all win, there will be no scam.
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>>59270663
Correct. Everyone is hypnotized by fiat money and forgot that actually producing goods is what allows human beings to live. America is like a giant department store Christmas tree with thousands of brightly wrapped packages underneath it. But nobody knows that all the packages are empty. It is the gift of that limey faggot Keynes. The day for unwrapping the packages is coming soon and the gnashing of teeth will spread around the globe.
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>>59273255
People who bought crypto are now all retired

stacktards are all wagies working for fiat so they can buy silver shitcoins that the government wisely discarded
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What do you suggest for paying for stuff, especially online? We don't have teleportation yet, so physical money doesn't really work unless you think sending silver coins to amazon via mail is a solution.
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It's always funny to think about how no one on pmg ever made money on precious metals except mintanon, and he does it by charging 200% premiums to the retards here who shill their shitcoins 24/7/365
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>>59273382
I've made 200% gains since I started buying pms. Gold and silver are pretty close to their ATHs right now, everyone who isn't just now buying their first piece has made money on it.
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>>59273411
Lmao i remember you retards paying $45 for ASEs and that was 40% inflation ago
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https://x.com/skyler_fs/status/1860046425775833424

We are going much much higher
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>>59273415
>Responds within a minute on such a slow board.
Jesus Christ dude, do you have no life? Why don't you relax with your crypto millions that you claim you have? Why are you still here on 4chan?
And why do you assume that we don't have crypto as well? (Considering that's at an ATH right now, I just sold my BTC an hour ago because one should be fearful when others, like you, are greedy.)
And no, ASEs are for boomers to buy off of the television.
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Back in 2007, the S&P 500 was on a tear ALL year long, just as it was this year and highly overleveraged. The talking heads and the Fed spent all of 2007 reassuring everyone there was no recession coming, just as they did this year. In September of 2007, the Fed did a historic double sized 50 basis point rate cut while still insisting everything was fine. They did that same 50 BP cut this September while proclaiming it's all fine. By spring, everything was on fire. By fall of 2008, the S&P 500 was down 50%. It was the worst recession in decades. And it's upon us again.
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The problem is the financial reckoning caused by runaway debt/leverage will create a bottleneck that EVERYONE gets sucked in to and a fundamental revaluation of EVERYTHING will occur. The most important lens you need to decipher what is a good investment and what is not will be an asset's exposure to credit/debt.
Bonds = debt
Real Estate = highly leveraged capital
Stocks = most of them overbought/leveraged = credit
insurance = invested in bonds = credit
social security = bonds = credit.
precious metals = capital
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Historical precedent shows that anyone who held on to their gold and did not trust the banks/dollars avoided a loss of 70% of their purchasing power ($20.67 to $35 per ounce of gold).
So the standard is that everyone lost. But those with the metal actually gained wealth in that environment. And all of us about to pass through this event need to get accustomed to the idea that there will not be a V shaped recovery where you can sit in cash and then ride the collapse out and become wealthier than before. Because we will not be enjoying easy money probably for the rest of our lives. It could take decades to recapitalize the west and it will be a slow, miserable toil of depressed wages and people barely scraping buy to save a pittance before this economy really gets back up and running.
The balloon economy is going to actualize economic scarcity and there will be no reinflating the balloon. It will be musical chairs and things come screeching to a halt.
If you think that won't happen, then I would implore you to describe what the mechanism is that allows us to consume our way to prosperity on an infinite basis. That we don't need surplus and savings but bank credit is somehow enough. And if that is all it takes and there are no consequences, then let's start spending more and start taking on all sorts of new public work projects. Why not?
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>>59273434
>relax with your crypto millions
He's poor lol. Won't even post a portfolio.
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>>59273375
I pay people all over the world with paper US dollars instantly. It's called wiring money (by Western Union usually). I give paper dollars to Western Union, they give paper dollars to somebody in the Levant. No reason the same thing can't be done with gold and silver. This technology has existed for a very long time. Staring at numbers on a computer screen has induced a kind of amnesia in people such that they think everyone lived in the dark ages until now.
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>>59273449
>Historical precedent
That’s not what precedent means. Just say history shows. But I think you’re a bot considering you’re just rambling to yourself.
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>>59273460
>>59273375
The Sears catalog was a thing.
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>>59273434
>Why are you still here on 4chan?


Lmao, more projection. I'm literally in Japan, retired and doing whatever i want because I'm rich. I got rich by not getting scammed on metals like you. You are stuck seething on a past its sell date general praying for Armageddon so you can finally be someone with your stack of dimes. Thank G_d we are not the same. Anywho best of luck with your junkmetal I have 7 figures in that as well but don't to pretend it's an investment that will cure virginity since I already have 4 kids
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>>59273662
>G_d
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>>59273662
>>59273662
Oh and BTW i got that picture in the lobby at the money museum in Nagoya (and the sour expression of the rickshaw puller reminded me of the resident stackers), a huge collection of gold and silver coins from around the world, not that yall poors can afford time off from the grind but maybe the world will collapse and all your dreams come true!
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>>59273662
>Thank G_d
You just lost. Enjoy the lake of fire, demonic filth.
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>>59273662
>since I already have 4 kids
Forming a parasocial relationship with >>59209989 kids you take creepshots of is even creepier.
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>IQDELET can't delete /pmg/.
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Some people are so poor all they have is their money.
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>>59273726
>>59273715
>>59273707
>>59273700
The more you seethe the more you are locked in your failing investments. Lmao you were so mad you passed on a sure thing when bitcoin ETFs were approved. Your $400 portfolio could have grown to $1100. Not so funny now is it?
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>>59273816
The poor stay poor by spending like they're rich. The rich get rich by spending like they're poor, and investing.
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>>59273840
Whatever, you international child molester.
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>>59273816
These stackers don't even have any money. Literally zero money, lmao they are praying for "muh collapse" so they can buy virgins with their pet rocks
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>>59273840
>The more you seethe the more you are locked in your failing investments
I'm not mad when I could never afford a bitcoin token in the first place. Also, I have never bought any stock because I don't do stocks. I buy metals because they're counter party risk free and actually real, as in they have physical properties. I'm not the one who hangs out in a general not related to their own stuff for over a year trying to get people to sell their assets. That's the kind of behavior that tells me what I'm doing is on the right path. In other words, everytime you post your demoralization tactics it actually moralizes me.
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>>59273852
My post went right over your head, which was to be expected. You can't fix stupid.
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>>59273889
>I'm poor, here's why

Lmao

>>59273972
Pretty cool all these companies are adding bitcoin to their balance sheet. Gonna be fun when the mega caps join in. If you don't understand what I'm saying ngmi.
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>>59273498
People actually bought entire houses from the Sears catalog. This photo is from the 1897 catalog long before the Federal Reserve even existed.
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>>59273985
Most people don't have $50,000 to $100,000 to spend on a token.

>Muh ETF
Counter party risk anon, you appear to be tone-deaf that's the appeal of owning metals outright. Also I don't do stocks. BTW why haven't you left this place yet, it has been over a year.
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>>59274051
>>59274051
>muh Counter party risk

Lmao all you clowns can do is parrot coin merchant talking points
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>>59273852
If I was waiting for the civilzation to collapse I would be stacking copper and aluminum and fucking beans or something. Not precious metals. Retard.
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>>59274093
>Lmao all you clowns can do is parrot coin merchant talking points
Talking points that are true. Gold and silver's unique selling point is that they have no counter party risk. Also central banks are still buying gold in record numbers because we know gold revaluation is coming down the line. Cheapies for poor people will be wealthy by the end of the decade.
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>>59273460
So your solution is the nigger jew dollar which is based on a system of usury and infinite money printing and used to enslave all of humanity??
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finally back in stock
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>>59274112

>Gold and silver's unique selling point is that they have no counter party risk

Its not unique. So does any rock you can get for free. So does a banana so does your shit. Lmao you clowns believe everything premium grabbers tell you

Lmao
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>>59274144
Buy at a 5% premium plus shipping. Sell at a 5% discount plus shipping. Lose 40% to inflation, lose 298% against bitcoin. Sell, declare victory and brag on pmg., cry yourself to sleep
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>>59274136
Impressive number of pol buzzwords in one sentence. Do you ever have an original thought?
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>>59274153
>Its not unique
Unique Selling Point dumbass,
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>>59274153
random rocks, bananas, and shit do not meet all the qualifications of money, unlike PMs.
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>>59274418
But pms literally are not money
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>>59273985
>pretty cool all these companies are adding bitcoin
LOL Mara is literally fucking over their shareholders by massively diluting the shares in order to hold onto their precious bitcoin.
The whole crypto industry is a scam.
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>>59274470
>pms literally are not money
Oh no, it's retarded.
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>>59274549
>The whole crypto industry is a scam.
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>>59274144
Need to build up reserves, but that's a 'get'! In the meantime I'll settle for silver.
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>>59274470
Why were they money for thousands of years then? Wasn't Jesus Christ sold out for 30 silver pieces?
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>>59270626
>they're not going to make a reserve out of something they don't control
this, and if they do, it's both confirmation & admission the NSA created bitcorn.
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>Bullion dealer in my country selling a 1oz Gold Coin for only €14 over spot
>Its a Harry Potter coin
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>>59274656
>Wasn't Jesus Christ sold out for 30 silver pieces?
That's because the money changers weren't printing fiat debt receipts yet.
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>>59274678
Being into numismatics has its toll.
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>>59270762
How would pumping shitcoins make kids happy exactly?
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>>59274188
The dollar in digital form is not reliable as it's easily confiscated and in physical form it's not very convenient and you don't even get real gold or silver coinage. It's the worst of both worlds. And even a wad of cash doesn't help when you need to show an ID to use it or send some of it somewhere with Western Union or whatever.
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>>59274662
>NSA created bitcorn
https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash
Yep!
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>>59270993
>and no one will ever see my bitcoins again
yeah, we know, that's the fate of all BTCs eventually.
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>>59274706
I've only wondered this recently, but are the serial numbers on printed dollar notes still traceable or is it just gibberish by now?
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Just ignore the cryptojew.
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>>59274697
Don't y'all exist to pump your silver shitcoins so you can get a gf? That's basically your only sound argument (albeit never going to happen) to waging your life away to buy your junk silver
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>>59274759
>can get a gf?
I'm just tired of dating dumb women. Hopefully silver can get me a smart wife eventually.
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>>59274726
I'm not sure if it's actually done but it would be easy to scan the serials on ATMs when cash is pulled out and then check who put those notes into the bank again. My guess is they absolutely do it.
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>>59274656
So we're yap, another rock, why don't you hoard those
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>>59274726
The site (Where's George) is still up and responds to the serial #s. Whether anyone actually uses it - who knows?
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>>59274759
Don’t you just hold bitcoin so you can find a nice man to settle down with?
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Why are you guys arguing with the obvious troll?
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>>59274734
>Just ignore the cryptojew.
You'd have to be intellectually dishonest to not see the Deus Ex future we are headed towards. Everything digital will be hyper targeted for control. I don't give a ratfuck how gucci of a hacker you claim to be the NSA will figure out what you're doing online in some way shape or form. Edward Snowden is in some soviet bunker somewhere still to this day because of the NSA, he can never fucking leave after being put near the top of Uncle Sam's shitlist like that. I don't want to shit on people for crypto being wacky as fuck a few years ago but if you can't see the edge of the cliff at this point then you're lost and will never be found. Crypto would be great for the upper echelons of society but it's not meant for plebs at all at this point except to be a trap.
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>>59274830
He's our punching bag. Eventually reality will set in and he'll finally break.
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>>59273662
>G_d
Your yarmaluke is showing.
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>>59274830
>Why are you guys arguing with the obvious troll?
IQDELET refuses to go and we've got nothing better to do but to talk shit back at. It also gives us a reason to post why precious metals are the best asset for storing wealth against the system, which is great for newcomers and lurkers. In a sense, IQDELET is a /pmg/ asset.

KEKTOP!
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>>59274927
Even if he has a large amount of crypto, he'll an hero when he can't cash out.
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>>59274830
When his beach combing business dried up he came to us. Posting from a mcdonalds larping as a millionaire. I find it funny, because he is clinically insane.
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>>59275008
>Posting from a mcdonalds larping as a millionaire
I thought that was some different azn guy who just wanted to post his gold coin here. Wasn't sure if it had to do with those random Chinese posting in moon runes for those few days last year and then disappeared.
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>>59274983
>you can't cash out of crypto
How old are you that you're still repeating fud from literally 15 years ago?
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>>59275038
>repeating fud from literally 15 years ago
And it's beginning to happen again.
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>>59275063
I can see the same happening if you sell a kilo of gold.
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>>59275115
>sell a kilo of gold.
Absolutely yes, but my biggest gold piece is only 20g at this time. I'm honestly hesitant to buy 1toz gold even, I've stuck with quarter ounce/Sovs or LMUs for the most part. Even with silver, I have plenty of 10+toz bars, biggest being a 50. And I have fractionals out the ass. I can honestly see myself just buying 1toz silver rounds/coins and only quarter ounce/LMUs for gold from here on out.
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>>59275170
>And I have fractionals out the ass.
Most people will be bartering for small items. The largest bar I want to even think about buying is a 10z. Pic related is 4oz and basically makes me coom. Something like Mercury Dimes will be the best overall bartering silver in my opinion.
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>>59275170
20g of gold is worth less than $2000, very different from putting $23k into the bank. Anyhow, this is the bank's fault for not doing their job. It doesn't even have anything to do with crypto, banks close accounts of people who have done no wrong all the time. But there are other ways to cash out, like buying precious metals directly (some shops do it) or just going to a different bank.
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>>59275239
>4oz
Such an underrated size.
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>>59275240
>20g of gold is worth less than $2000
For now.
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>>59275269
I know, I'm hoarding gold and especially silver, too.
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>>59275269
Is the dollar to silver ratio up 100% since last year? What the fuck is going on?
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>>59275314
Things are accelerating
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>>59275291
Congratulations on your losses

>>59275239
>Most people will be bartering for small items.
Lmao, do retards actually believe this or are you a coin merchant gathering more premiums . Anywho if you believe this you are poor and schizo devoting your entire life to being a mark
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>>59267846
Fuck gold, btc is the new gold, and galaxis is the new meaning of community
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>>59275342
Not nearly fast enough. If my 200 ounces or so of silver is actually worth $200k then what's actually happening?
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>>59275314
It used to be more around 300x, but it got close to 400x at least once. Bu it's been consistently over 400x now and slowly rising for a while now. This is of course unprecedented.
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>>59275314
This is from Oct 2nd. As far back as I started saving them.
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>>59275403
So practically doubled over a year while silver has only gone up 10 bucks. They need to audit this shit and "paper silver" shouldn't even be a thing.
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>>59275427
Hey, enjoy the cheapies while they last.
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i still cant believe iqdelte posted a photo of himself admiring used condoms
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>>59275448
I think we've all enjoyed cheapies well enough. It's time for reality to set in.
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>>59274153
I mean at this point is just ramblings of a madman. The help you need is not in this thread and certainly not on 4chan. Seek professional help. I wish you luck.
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The last time he shilled this much a few months later we reached new all time highs. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
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>>59275495
No. No matter how much silver I own, it's not enough. I could own thee COMEX to my name, and doubling or tripling it wouldn't satisfy my greed.
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>>59275571
When silver saves the world you'll have to give up some of your coins and rounds eventually to buy something :/
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>>59275584
Not looking forward to this but I've accepted it. Hopefully I can buy slaves though.
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>>59274183
>brags about wasting money
>Cries that he is poor

That describes every stacker and every poor on the planet. Then you find some way to blame some innocent group for your failures
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>>59275584
I know. But until 0.25toz buys a months worth of quality groceries and 1toz is paying my mortgage and monthly bills, I want it as cheap as possible.
>>59275602
>slaves
They'll still have wagies in the future.
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New treasury secretary.... we are going much much higher....lmao stackers aren't but real investors are

>Democrats are running from it because they are trying to Wash off the stench of Sam Bankman-Fried and his family donations to the democratic party,


BESSENT: "I have been excited about the president’s embrace of crypto and I think it fits very well with the Republican Party, crypto is about freedom in the crypto economy is here to stay, the Democrats are running from it because they are trying to Wash off the stench of Sam Bankman-Fried and his family donations to the democratic party, they’re willing to take on the whole industry because the bad behavior on their part of one actor. I think everything is on the table with Bitcoin and to be one of the most exciting things about Bitcoin is for a generation of investors who posted great financial crisis have been looking for investment opportunities and soured on markets crypto is bringing in young people and the people who have not participated in markets and having a market culture in the U.S. and people believe in the market that works for them is the centerpiece of capitalism capitalism."
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>>59275698
>They'll still have wagies in the future.

You will be one of them since you threw your $ away
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>>59275534
I've been thinking as much myself. It's really nice that it's made so obviously inorganic to give us prep time, but I don't have any free cash to slurp with right now so I'm sad.
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>the value of a mercury dime can value from $1.50 to $1500
Will anyone really care about the grades of coins in 20 years?
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BESSENT: “Let’s follow El Salvador’s lead and turn the US into a third world shithole”
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>>59275803
>Will anyone really care about the grades of coins in 20 years?
20 fucking years from now the entire worldwide economy will either be reworked to actually work or we'll be in the NWO. People or the things running the planet will care 20 years from now. Right now anybody who even dips a pinkie toe into precious metals is already ahead of the curve but won't be for very long.
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>>59275803
yes
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>>59275803
>grades of coins
I'm running under the assumption of no. Doesn't mean that I still won't buy pieces that I fancy at a slight premium over generics or average junk.
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>>59275780
>don't have any free cash to
Why are poor people so excited to lose money?

Why are poors investing at all

Why do poors obsess over obvious scams

Why do poors devote their existence to enriching merchants

Lmao, poors love buying instant loser lottery tickets
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>>59275824
Lmao ironically that's what stacktards pray for the collapse of America, where they will be even worse off than today
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My first gold purchase will be arriving shortly, it's .9802 oz. old-school coin. I will post when new /pmg/ thread is made.
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>>59274112
Another unique selling point is that they have been the first choice for monetary medium for most of human history in every civilization that had money. Until the very recent fiat anomaly.
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>>59275865
Stacktards are such idiots. All America has to do is dca into bitcoin every month and all its debt problems disappear and the US and El Salvador rule the world.
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>>59274136
No my solution is to do with gold and silver what is already easily done with dollars. You wire it between trusted institutions. People who can't understand how gold and silver can be used in international transactions online need to be schooled on how the real world actually works - and has worked - for a very long time.
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Hopefully by the time the BRICS countries catch on, the US will own 95% of all bitcoin
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>>59275940
Lmao, a selling point? To whom? Governments decided that crap isn't money. Now whatcha gonna do incel? Nothing. You will use paper $ or e $ because it's not your choice
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>>59275959
I don't trust institutions, not even or maybe especially not governments. They have a bad track record with money. Gold and silver work very well locally but not globally. Not for individuals. Not without introducing a third party and counter party risk. I think if you go buy eggs from the farmer or the supermarket you should be able to pay with silver coins and maybe even get change in silver for a smaller gold coin.
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>>59275996
>I don’t trust third parties
So you don’t have any form of insurance?
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>>59276006
Lmao, the coin merchant didn't give him an excuse for that so he doesn't know how to respond. If there's one thing you notice about stackers they can only repeat what they are told
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>>59276086
He was starting to sound like a cryptofag so I just wanted to know what was so bad about trusting third parties in a free market.
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>>59271568
unbelievably beautiful Anon :)
I wish i had the money to spend on a full ounce but with how fast the price rises every month i cant afford to save up for one but maybe i make an exception for this one
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>>59276006
Ideally the money ought to be more reliable than the economy built on top of it or it's all going to crumble. The more important it is the less you want to rely on trust. Insurance companies are notorious for scamming customers so to me they're as trustworthy as banks are, not much. But I do technically have some kind of insurance, yes.
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>>59276236
>I wish i had the money to spend

Says every clown who got scammed on metal and wants to get scammed again
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i am finally at the point of accepting that the lighthouse 37mm capsules are indeed superior to the air-tite black ring 37mm capsules
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>>59275314
This is the oldest one I have saved.
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>>59276610
Actually this is the oldest, then there's the massive gap to March 24', then I have screenshots every couple weeks or so up to 400:1 and beyond.
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>>59276598
What do you use 37mm capsules for?
I'm about to need more 33mm capsules, but the Lighthouse ones have an extra overhang or lip around the edge that I don't like. What didn't you like about the Air-Tight?
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>>59276626
Are you saying that the amount of US dollars in existence has 2.5x since March of 2024?
400 x 2.5 =1000
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>>59276236
Thanks!
If you can swing it, it is indeed gorgeous. From the Queen's Beast series, the unicorn and the dragon fetched the highest post-mint premiums. So if you can do a unicorn, it should do well for you.

Another new...
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>>59276724
>Queens beast series
Yeah that was a good set i instantly bought the dragon during the one day dip when there where some shenanigans with the Japanese central bank
I didn't even know that these two had the highest premium the seller I got them from sold the entire series for only 50 euros more than a usual Brittania
The unicorn is unfortunately sold out already butt thr Bull of Clarence also looks stunning
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>>59276720
What >>59276626 shows is contracts for silver versus actual, physical silver. There's over 400 times the amount of 'paper silver' as it's called than deliverable silver. That's what keeps the price artificially low.
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>>59276720
>the amount of US dollars in existence has 2.5x since March of 2024?
No my friend. That number is the ratio of paper silver contracts to actual physical silver in existence. The amount of dollars has gone up, but it's not a part of this equation.
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>>59276626
>>59276720
>>59276804
It means they mined 800M(millions) ounces of physical silver worth about $24B(billions), but 320B(billions) paper ounces were traded back and forth on the exchanges worth about 9.6T(trillions).
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>>59276783
Last thread someone posted info that there's a Tudor Panther just came out. That's another one I'd bet will be in high demand.
>>>59249732
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>>59275996
Okay. You do as you like. Western Union wouldn't stay in business very long if it started stealing people's gold and silver.
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>>59276791
Yet when paper BTC was issued the price went up. Lmao you are just a shitty investor looking for excuses why you are a loser. What's funny is you've been posting that cope for 5 years while i got rich. You will keep posting it until you capitulate and take your 89% losses
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>>59276973
Coin merchants and mintanon are still in business despite constant fleecing. Fact is some low iq poors like to be scammed
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>>59276710
mostly phils so far. the berlin mint rounds i've gotten are also 37, but those already come in capsules. it's a stupid nitpick, but for certain sized coins, the air-tites with black rims will deform and require you to open the capsule to allow the foam to reform. this doesn't seem to happen with the 32mm black rim capsules. also, the 37mm air-tites almost seem too narrow for some of the coins. the limited "phils" would hardly close and will creak if you press around on the capsule with it in you hand.

the plastic used on the air-tites feels like it is probably higher quality. i don't think you'd be wrong to try those instead of more lighthouse capsules.

do you have any australian coins that come with their lipped capsules? their gold coins or the lunar series come in those, not their more shitty standard capsules with flat edges. i really like those for some reason and wish they sold them separately. i'd definitely use those for other 32mm gold coins at least.

>>59276724
>>59276783
nice
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>>59276996
>do you have any australian coins that come with their lipped capsules?
I don't know offhand, but I know I have no Aussie Au. There have been some very thick capsules that I've swapped out for thinner so they'd fit in the tubes, pic related. Can't recall if Aussie stuff was included in that.
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>>59276996
>>59277062
I forgot the pic, didn't i?
And thanks for the info on the capsules.
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>>59273889
that's from the onion faggot
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>>59277216
>oi vey goy don't show that all wealth is concentrated
>it's antisemitic
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>>59277073
yw. that will be another thing if you'd get the air-tites. you'd need the larger diameter tubes if you wanted to keep them stored in tubes.
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>>59277491
Remember to protect your commodity/(pretend money) .............from the air........bwah ha ha ha ha
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>>59277938
bruh you invest all your savings in hot air & vaporwaves, here we like to do the exact opposite : we don't want any contaminating our beautiful rocks.
We leave you all the air you want, free of charge lel.
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>>59277938
>his charizards are in plastic
I mean, they're also collectibles. If the condition matters it's not just a commodity. Some of my collectibles do a 10x or more within a day, most of them do a 2x in a day. Just because I buy them at auction in ebay for half price or less.

For me it's lighthouse quickslabs, but only because most of my collection is in NGC slabs and I like having all my holders the same size and style
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>>59278116
> If the condition matters

It doesn't. They are all getting melted down again and again for whatever crap sells tisay
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>>59278198
true in most cases, but there's no way of knowing what's going to be valuable in the future so you protect it all just in case.

like your pokemon you've posted before
most of it will be worthless trash
some of it might be valuable
no way to know which is which
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>>59276973
I'm sure it works OK most of the time unless you're on a list because you were protesting government tyranny (like happened in Canada). But even if it works Western Union is not really like cash where people can do seamless peer to peer transactions by just handing over stuff without involving a third party. This is also a matter of privacy.
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>>59276843
Totally ethical, of course.
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>>59269125
Why are you selling in the first place? NGMI
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Should people go all in on gold? I'm not sure but I think gold will be the new Bitcoin before silver. What is your take on this?
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>>59279548
silver is currently close to 4x undervalued vs. gold. Maybe 8x depending on the metric

but there's no guarantee either of them will blow up before the end of the financial system, and neither of them is likely to be the next bitcoin. I mean 100,000x gains are unlikely because silver and gold have never been worth zero like bitcoin has.
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>>59279548
>gold will be the new Bitcoin
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>>59279548
Gold is worth zero, silver is worth zero. Not only are they worthless, having no use case but you can make the case they are toxic and hazardous waste and have a negative value. When the fed stops propping them up they will inevitably crash
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>>59279769
thank you for coming back, IQ
I asked and you obeyed. You are a good thrall
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>>59279769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7NZPfl0l4

pmg needs its clown and whipping boy
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We are going much higher
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>>59279769
Legitimately dumbest post I've read on this board all day, and 80% of the catalog is filled with memecoin threads.
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>>59280440
Nocoiner detected, opinion discarded
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>>59280450
>>59280450
>nocoiner detected
Ok reductionist no-foundationer, whatever (You) say.
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>>59280450
þæs þrællles efn
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Every post of his is trolling outside of b or off topic and yet here he is.
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>>59280404
>p2p payment network that frees people from the clutches of government tyranny
>”bro look the government supports Bitcoin”
Have you ever stopped to think about how retarded your entire worldview is?
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>>59280722
he's my vietnamese condom kissing bot
he keeps my thread moviing.
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NEW THREAD

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>>59280745
>>59280745
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>>59280750
thank you baker
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>>59279769
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>>59278580
The criticism was that "physical money doesn't really work" for online purchases. My post shows that this is false. All that is required is a trusted agent. Free markets have long provided just such agents. It is a non-existent problem. As for privacy, there is no reason users of such services could not remain anonymous. All you really need is the redemption code which is transmitted directly to the recipient. No different than crypto.
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>>59279548
Gold will always have value. See it more as a better way to hold your wealth than some get rich quick thing



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