My friend is the highest paid developer in AmsterdamMakes an eye-watering €57,000 a yearAfter taxes nearly €23,000We were at the bar and the American guy sitting next to us spit out his beer when he heard this“That’s a 50% tax rate!” he loudly screamed“Actually 56% with social contributions,” my proud Dutch friend corrected him“Plus 21% VAT on everything I buy”“Bro you guys are really poor in Europe lol”Me and my friend look at each other in disbeliefFirst of all, €57,000 is an extremely high salary for an engineer in NetherlandsSecond, little does that barbaric yankee know, my friend just got promoted to the CTOHis new salary?€61,000How is that for "really poor"?This is what sustainable tech wages look likeI hope my startup will continue to grow so I can pay my engineers such high salaries as well
what ridiculous horsesit you american nigger
dutch women can't stop sitting on black dicks tho
cringe twitter copypasta - https://x.com/eurofounder/status/1995905048338202963
It’s funny because Netherlands is pretty much the highest quality country on the planet currently and what americans hope their country could be.
5€ @ McDonald's in Dutch
>>61427671>European Enterpreneur
>>61427671This seems like some type of disinfo shit. I work in a bank in the Nordics and make 130k euros
>>61427671If euros didn't pay ridiculous taxes and the US didn't subsidize their defense spending then how could they afford to import millions of Africans and Arabs?
Americans on average spend 17% of their income on cars and transportation related expensesAmericans on average spend 12% o their income on health insurance related expenses. So roughly 30% of their post-tax income goes towards things that Europeans pay for through taxes.
>>61427671The Yanks don’t get it. You are not just an entrepreneur, but an investor, and no better investment than in the public administration. We are thriving over here.
>>61427821hey, the walkable BBC is a real industry
>>61427855the key here is that Americans don't HAVE TOEuroniggers have two thirds of their paycheck taken out to finance more Nafris in their subway system
mfw i realize that this fake scenario would still be preferable to being born in the usa because:1. dutch men are tall unlike americans 2. dutch men arent getting a sexual organ amputated at birth and left incapable of experiencing an actual orgasm.
>>61427991the new dutch are largely circumcised thoughbeit
>>61427671Journeyman austria 50k. 35k after taxes.
>>61427940Yes they do, not all of them, but most of them. Not having health insurance would be stupid since it's so expensiveAnd America has no public transit unless you are in somewhere like NYC
>>61427795Nowhere is high quality if you're poor. Everywhere is high quality if you're rich.
>>61428402theres some 3rd world countries that just have no luxury offerings at all, like vietnamChina is dirt poor in general but they still have luxury hotels and luxury restaurants in the major cities
>>61427682fpbp
>>61427682what a retarded thread
>>61427682do americans really believe these hallucinations?
>>61427795I guarantee you no American wants the US to turn into a brown shithole where women get raped by muslims everyday like the Netherlands
> Europe>Enterpreneur
>>61428906>>61428944drown in piss, american monkeys
>>61428906your biggest city is literally just elected a muslim, you stupid american donkey
>>61428947>>61428955Seethe europoors, your shithole union is about to fall apart
>>61428955He has literally zero power outside NYC. Drink more copium, Europoor.
I am a Europoor and actually OP is correct. Our wages ARE a joke. We are being babysitted by the government and its pissing me off.
>>61429081but think of the quality of mustafa's healthcare
>>61429081>>61429102two american monkeys talking with each other
>>61429104shut the fuck up tranny no sane person wants to sponsor your HRT
>>61428984>biggest city is literally a brown commie shithole like every other american city>nnnoo, you are coping!!!
>>61428906You have never been to Netherlands it seems.>>61428402Kek the difference between a ”poor” danish person and a poor nigerian person is huge. Even a rich nigerian has to live in ficking nigeria.
>>61428967>your shithole union is about to fall apartKek this is what americans and russians pray for with tears on their eye’s every day, but in reality we just keep getting stronger.
>>61427671I live in Spain, I'm a web dev, I make 73k a year, after taxes that's roughly 45k I take home. In total I pay roughly 38% taxes.Not really pleasant, but not complaining, for an European I'm pretty loaded and I get to save/invest around 1k5 euros per month comfortably.
>>61429081Yeah and they wonder why the brain drain exists and why we don't get Australians here to run cheap bars anymore.
>>61429299keep replying to yoruself, you dumb mexican trash
>>61427795Dude that's like saying Massachusetts has the highest quality of life, best educated blah blah. Apples and Oranges. And don't think we don't know about your former colonies in Surinam and the slave coast that built all your cute shit in Amsterdam...
i sell cars side by side jews, pakis, and arabs. Inside the beltway. made 140k this year. literal fresh off the boat pakis i work with are making 15-20k a month. my manager with no college education from kosovo makes 50-70k a month.
>>61429271Bruh balkanchad here I make 3800 eur and take home 3200 eur. People went to protest taxes and mismanagement on monday. No Idea how you manage in your west EU communist shitholes.
>>61427671Damn I thought we had it bad here in the states w/taxes.
>>61430184>Dude that's like saying Massachusetts has the highest quality of life, best educated blah blah.How is it the same?And stuff that happened 300 years ago has little relevance today. High taxes work in creating a good society for all, not just the top 10% while the rest have to live in favelas.
>>61430438And your country has shit infrastructure and public services compared to Netherlands. This isn’t rocket science.
>>61427671>Engineer>Netherlands>57k€Netherland bros... im an electrician with 5 years of experience and rack in close to 80k€This cant be true right?
>>61431427CTO at my company makes ~€150k. Highest paid developers are making around €100k. €57k is a low medior developer salary. It's a far cry from the ridiculous USA tech salaries, but it's not as bad as OP dreamt up. >.t not even in Amsterdam but a smaller city
>>61427671Retarded post, you can earn more than that in Amsterdam. I earn more and live in the countryside lmao.
>>61427855>Americans have healthcareFinally got a foreigner to admit it. Never thought I would see it in my three decades of living. Next thing you know someone will point we also have “free” healthcare programs that make up a substantial portion of our government spending as well.
>>61431467Well OP was onviously jesting but that is pretty bad for a high up position. When I worked for some no name NFT start up they were paying the lead of our customer service team (VP title) between $200,000-$350,000 plus some good benefits. Granted that company went under when NFT’s lost 99% but I was making $60k for my first full-time job, handling support emails 2 hours a day. American start ups are high risk high reward, especially back when the money printer was still on and there was much more in the way of angel investors. My current business is going through a year long audit on account of the auditors being the same guys who handled FTC before it went under. I think that’s why wages are so high partially, lack of regulations coupled with good talent leads to higher investment.
>>61427855Still more freedom than us, I am forced to pay for a pension through taxes which I will likely never receive. I would rather save and invest the money myself. Too much socialism is just bad.
>>61431592I’ll believe that the amount of socialism that western/northern europe has is too much when i see it. But the statistics keep on putting these countries as the highest average living quality countries in the world. If they start dropping out and america stops having it’s homeless and crime problem, i’ll believe all the rich people boot lickers.
someone earning 57k euros in holland takes home 42.2k euros. so this is all bs. i ran it through a tax calculator. utter piffle
>>61427682This
There's people here on £80k who struggle to operate the door to get into the building.Wages have never been a reflection of your ability.
>>61429299>we don't get Australians here to run cheap bars anymore>2025>go to bar in Brussels>there is no longer a muscular 6'4" man to smile and give me a vegemite sandwichrecession indicator
>>61427940>actually you dont NEED transportation or medical careAbsolutely retarded take
>>61427671I appreciate the banter, EUfags need it, but 100k eur/yr is not unheard of for a senior dev in Amsterdam.That being said, the few places where it makes sense to be a dev in EU are Bulgaria, Poland and Romania. With some negotiating skills you can still land a 100k salary, which is 90k after tax and 80k after tax and rent, allowing you to save, invest and move up the social ladder. WEU fags will never know the feeling.>>61427855It's 30% of an average of 50k. It doesn't scale if you're actually good at something, therefore making decent money.>>61428502> like vietnamYou're a decade behind the curve, but let's say you said Cambodia, then the rest of your argument is valid.>>61428944There's tons of EU-born entrepreneurs, we just have to move outside the EU, that's all.
>>61429104Imagine defending the mindset that's going to destroy your home continent, fuck off, amerifats should be harsher on us.>>61429271Can't you ask your employer to freelance for the same amount (+ the tax he pays on top of the 75k) then move to Andorra?>>61430438The protests in Sofia are literally led by the barracuda-looking faggot who started the tax hikes, hope you're not attending, if this stupid Soros-funded fag gets into power again you'll get an ever bigger tax hike.>>61431423>And your country has shit infrastructure and public services compared to Netherlands. This isn’t rocket science.Shittier roads, by a mile, but even private healthcare is more affordable than the tax in the Netherlands, and yes, we don't take care of Mustafa, he can get a job if he insists on living there.>>61431750> But the statistics keep on putting these countries as the highest average living quality countries in the world.Because they define "living quality" as "socialist freebies". They're a literal nightmare if you have any ambition. I made a ton of Dutch friends here in Dubai, they literally teach their kids English, Arabic, Chinese and Russian and skip Dutch altogether.
>>61430184>And don't think we don't know about your former colonies in Surinam and the slave coast that built all your cute shit in Amsterdam...Non-white detected. Suriname was a dirt poor colony which we barely broke even on all things considered, and the triangular slave/sugar trade was the least profitable of the big Dutch ventures. Any profit we extracted from "slave trade" was dwarfed by profits from the East Indian spice trade, which in turn was dwarfed by the profits we made from our monopoly on the Baltic Sea trade. All that cute shit in Amsterdam was largely built using the profits made from trading grain, wood and flax over short, intra-Europe trade voyages. Very boring, but also very profitable. All the noise about "muh canals were built on the backs of black Suriname people!" is our equivalent of "The USA was built by slaves!", but even less accurate. The main purpose of that war cry is, same as Black Americans, to angle for gibs of course.
>>61427836I work part time as a senior nurse in the nordics, 29 hours a week and I make 69k$ mind you it's the most gay nigger nordics country sadly, but makes my salary all the more impressive.
>>61428502>>61429202Sure but we're not talking about Vietnam or Nigeria.Would you rather earn €50k in Europe or $200k in the USA? Obviously the latter.
>>61427671I'm not familiar with the Netherlands, but is Amsterdam actually a place with tech jobs or just for whores and weed? I know for a fact developers at ASML would have to make significantly more...but they are also not in Amsterdam.
>>61427795>highest quality country on the planet currentlyhousing is total garbage for 90% of the lets call it at under 35 yos today
>>61432372>100k in BulgariaLol
Developer of what? Shit?The average gross is 50kish in Amsterdam so can't plausibly tell me that a highly sought after specialised engineer just makes slightly more than that
>>61427682Yup
>>61427836>Lmao he works in finance and only makes 130k euro cuck bucksIs that before or after taxes aye lmao? It's like a quarter of what your junior NY banker makes ayeee
>>61427671I like the way you write.One sentence per line and hit enter twice.It's just got a certain je ne sais quoi.It's like you can't form complex thoughts that are longer than the average twit, but you are still able to string several of them together into something resembling a coherent hypothesis (even if it's still not that).I wonder who else does that.Who else writes one sentence on a line and hits enter twice.If only there were a website where such people congregated.You could go back there and never return.
>>61427693Why wouldn't they, the average 30 yr old American nigga makes 60k American dollars by working as a mere clerk in a DMV.
