How do people actually make good money in the stock market long term?Not “get rich in a week” stuffI mean realistic strategies.
>>62263691Buy index funds and wait 20 years
>>62263691DCA into VOO
>>62263691buying stocks low and selling them later when they're high
>>62263691Reddit told me to put all my money into a well diversified ETF like A2PKXG and now i am 16%/500€ up in the last 2 years or so eventhough i bought the top. if i actually made money i could myself see get rich with this
>>62263697>Buy index funds and wait 20 yearsthis, but it's actually 50 years
by investing as much as possible as early as possible
>>62263698this. the only realistic winning strategy for most of us is dca into spy/voo over 20 years. its pretty much guaranteed success. sure you can do options or try our hands on some penny stocks but at the end of the day thats just gambling and not investing.
>>62263691I've averaged like 22% per year for last 5 years I just do the opposite of what normies do and out perform index funds
>>62263691You must sell him your soul.
>>62263714God, I wish I would have started investing about 5 years earlier. But I was stupid, and working too much to think about anything else. I sat on about 80-100k dollars before I just started throwing funds into an etf brokerage fund. I'm only up 12k total because of this.If anyone can hear me, if you can read this, if you think waiting until you have enough money to invest is the play, INVEST RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
>>62263697>>62263713This but with what's going to happen in the next 10 years it's actually 60 years.
>>62263691Look at neglected sectors and industries. Then look at who is running what company and what they offer that is useful. Good way to find rebounds and start ups. Yes it takes days of research unless you know someone who also did this sort of research that will tell you what they found recently. All I can tell you is to avoid AI right now. It is a bubble.
>>62263871I think we all made the same mistake. I havent done anything for the first 7 years of working other than putting savings aside. Last 2 years once I started investing I saved more money with work+investing than I did in my first 2 years. It can really feel frustrating at times.
>>62263890I did thankfully contribute 15% into a 401k until i switched jobs to one that didnt have one. When i find a job with another 401k, you better believe im maxing out that shit.
>>62263691Yes there is a few ways.>DCA into low cost index>pros-Guaranteed results over a long enough time frame-Don't really need any specialized skills or knowledge>cons-It takes a LONG time to see results like 20 years+ before the snowball really gets going-You need discipline and patience to keep putting a chunk of your paycheck in every month>Active investing.Basically you buy undervalued assets and hold them for a year+ then sell at the right time and roll that money into new undervalued assets.>pros-You can DRAMATICALLY outperform the market if you're good I'm talking 50%-100% yearly returns.-You mostly only pay much lower cap gain tax rate.>cons-requires you have a brain and study the market. You can piggy back off internet stock gurus to some extent but that should always be only a starting point.-need to know when to hold em and when to fold em. Also when to take profit so you don't watch your asset that was 800% up drop down to 200%. Yes you're still in profit but you could have done so much better and then re-bought if you think it still has legs.-could potentially lose money overall if you're bad at it but a risk mitigation strategy will minimize this.>Short term trading.Either swing trading where you hold a position for a few days/weeks while its pumping or day trading where you could be in and out of a trade within minutes.>pros-Fastest way to make money. Potential profits are INSANE I'm talking 10x your entire portfolio in a year.>cons-Fastest way to lose money. You need a rock solid risk management as your #1 priority.-You also need to be smart, emotionally stable and have a good strategy.-You will be paying taxes as if it were ordinary income since you're holding for less than a year
>>62263878hush, don't tell the kids that the market can go downit always goes up, 16% per year. They buy stocks now and they'll all be millionaires in 10 years guaranteed. There's no way it could go down and stay down for a decade. That never happens.
>>62263713This, but it's actually 90 years. Dividends reinvested.
>>62263697This
Honestly, my advice is for you to save 30% into safe investments like land or metals, then 30% into recession proof industries like food, commodities, utilities, oil, gas, chinese industry, huawei, alphabet, mcdonalds, weapon industry, porn industry, travel, commerce, japanese and chinese bonds, then 30% in risky shit like cryptos, forex, or some IPO or find some shit like lending p2p or argentinian or mexican bonds, and then 1-3% into extremelly volatile shit like shitcoins.It's like the most ortodox normie pleb strategy.
>>62264035I'd say 20-20-60 respectively. If youre young, you need more risk.
>>62264044that 60 you mention has a 99% chance to lose money.
>>62263878This, and I would even say in the next 10 months.
>>62264049FINE. 30 30 30 10.
>>62263691Buy during crash reversals and leave once they're crashing again. I stayed and I'm about to lose it all!
>>62263691charizard > pikachu
>>62263691You either start with $100k and take safe plays or you start with <$100k and play the weighted lotto until you get lucky for a while. It's not your choice to make, honestly.
What about investing in like 10-20 stocks in companies you think will do well in the long term and keeping that for 10-30 years, reevaluating once in a while if the company goes to shit or something. Is that a good strat.
>>62263697Correct. This is the normal ass, no special IQ required choice that usually beats basically every other investing strategy while taking nearly no time. You just buy a low fee total market index fund like VTI, SCHB or similar.
>>62263691The big boys trade almost exclusively based on inside information because it's incredibly easy to feign plausible deniability and nobody ever gets prosecuted for it anyways. If you're a normal person then this >>62263697 is the only non-gambling way to do it.
dca into an index fund that pays dividends and pray that society doesn't collapse or get insider info somehow and pray nobody finds out, those are your only options at good money long term. Everything else is too risky and basically gambling, or requires a lot of work.
>>62265839Capital managers for middle class wagies do this as a full time job and most of them still don't beat the indices like SP500. Chances are you won't either
Charles Schwab lets you sell puts with all your $ stashed in their MMF funds as collateral which is ~3.5% APY gain. Sell whatever delta you like based on your risk tolerance then deposit the premium from this back into the MMF, roll it out if it goes the wrong way, or ultimately just do the wheel let it assign and sell covered calls until it goes the other way.
>FNGUwinners win
