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> What is your opinion on Animegao/kigurumi?

> is it considered appropriate here?

> or should I post it on /jp/?
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>>9880148
post it to the fursuit/mascot thread or keep it on /jp/
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Idk, I see them used in cosplay a lot. I cringe every time. They're uncanny valley as fuck and never look good.
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>>9880148
That's creepy as fuck
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>>9880166
I always got the impression that they're more common/popular in Japan and Korea than in the US.
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>>9880148
i'd consider it appropriate on here. especially if there's shit like feels thread. it's a costume. it belongs.
post ur kigs.
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>>9880148
There have been Animegao Kigurumi threads in CGL before.

1. The heads certainly are props
2. Many of the heads are hand made.
3. A lot of the costumes are either hand made or altered from what can be bought commercially.
4. Kigurumi performers show up at Anime events just like a lot of CGL fashions, so we are certainly talking about the same conventions.

As the readme file says.

/cgl/ is a board for the following: • Cosplay • Lolita • J-fashion • Conventions & gatherings • Sewing & prop-making • Craftsmanship tools/materials & tutorials

So it is Cosplay and if bitching about quality is not Craftmanship what is?
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Whenever I see this shit, the only thing I can think of is how ugly the man is wearing it. In theory it seems cool, put IRL its just insane.
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>the mask
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So fucking creepy.
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it's kind of hilarious how there's a more negative reaction towards this than the fursuit threads
>>9880304
plenty of attractive people wear em. it's just a diff type of style.
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Anyone ever seen male characters using these?
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>>9880298
This d e s u. They're hard to make well, particularly the heads. Just like fursuits, that alone should give them enough merit to be respected by serious costumers. Unfortunately a significant majority of this board thinks they're allowed to have opinions regarding costumes even though they have no experience with cosplay themselves.
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I love animegao! Would love to get my hands on one of the cyclops masks. Mini dump!
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>>9880325
>plenty of attractive people wear em. it's just a diff type of style.

Not unless they’re being paid e orbidant amounts of money to advertise something to creepy overweight virgins, no.

But this is absolutely every bit as creepy as fursuits. It’s not that one is more creepy than the other, you’re both equally repugnant.
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So explain the logic here: this is aimed at, what, men who are terrified of the opposite sex and can only approach things that look like cartoon characters?
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>>9880370
>wahhh this isn't my preferred form of costume
Maybe you'd prefer a more generalized board like >>>/b/ or >>>/r9k/. But unfortunately for you, this is the costume (+egl) board, so we're allowed to discuss costumes. Sorry sweetie!
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>>9880386
>come to new board
>spam shitty, creepy pics
>get offended when people say they don't like them and accuse them of being from /r9k/
newfag logic lmao
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>>9880358
>creepy one eyed shit
>lolita
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Those cyclops girls would be cute as dolls. But seeing it on a human is freaking me out and I don't like it.
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What about characters that canonically wear animegao?
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So like. How are these made? Are they comfy to wear or is it blistering hot in there.
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>>9880349
I want one of these masks so badly
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>>9880448
Depends on the material.Resin, 3D printed, etc. They tend to be padded with foam for comfort/fit so they get pretty sweaty.
Plus if you get the undersuit stuff and body padding then it can also make your body super sweaty
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Kig really grew on me. I remember years back I used to think they were pretty weird but after rediscovering them from a kig video with obscure techno over it, i've become really interested in how masks are made and the kig community. So far they just seem like really nice people who stay in their niche circle of friends who cosplay in kig. The uncanny look to them grew on me too, to the point that some of them look pretty cute in video.

post more cute kig
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>>9880497
>’kig’
>’kig community’
>they’re actually really nice people
>ie
>they can’t judge me for being a creepy fuck because they’re creepy fucks themselves

So it really is Furries 2.0

Is it the lack of eye contact due to the creepy helmets? Autists are supposed to have some weird thing about eye contact
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>>9880512
post animegao or gtfo
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>>9880530
There is plenty of creepy fetish normal cosplay shit too.
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>>9880530
Literally you’re the only person who’s posted a fetish picture in this thread. Everything else has been regular costumes. Self-fulfilling prophecy?
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I wouldn't wear kigu on a daily but would wear them for like performances i.e precure stage stuff.

Anyway I think it's cute and is more accurate to the real thing honestly but if you like, then you like them. If you dont then you don't.
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>>9880170
as somenoe who was disgusted by the form of 3d, this is heaven sent for me
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I think it's cute and I'm sure the people who wear them like, have reasons why right? like why deadpool wears a mask..? maybe not that deep but.. I have a friend i see every year at a con and they've always been nice and polite so I have a positive image of kigurumi mask wearers.
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>>9880371
This one is super cute! Is there a specific name for this style?
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>>9880663

Most people refer to this style as Ball Jointed Doll Kigurumi, or BJD Kig for short. Especially when they go the full distance with the jointed bodysuits.

BJD Kig tends to emulate the costume styles used by the actual Ball Jointed Doll figures.
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>>9880762
>bjd 'figures'
GTFO.
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No actually. Animegao Kigurumi was intended for little girls who adored Anime shows like Sailor Moon and Pretty Cure.

The companies designed live action stage shows, like theme park attractions, to market the programs directly to the kids. All the performers wore masks, so they looked as close as possible to their 2D counterparts in the cartoons.
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>>9880772
Over the years, Fans of the shows and the cartoons have been using these masks as a means to more accurately portray the cartoon characters that they identify with most.
Pic related to the Sailor moon Stage show. Actors posing with the women who provided the character voice for the cartoon.
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>>9880371
luluidoll on instagram, just in case anyone is curious
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>>9880326
Considering there are official stage kigs for Gintama, Pokemon, One Piece, etc...obviously. They don't seem to be as popular as girls due to most male characters lacking a wardrobe.
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>>9880370
/jp/ deletes them all the time so, no
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>>9880829
Then cgl should delete them too. /jp/ is a shit hole and we should have to deal with the scraps they don't even want
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>>9880448
I know some guys who do this, they had fans installed in the heads just like in a fursuit.
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>>9880349
So where are the noses
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>>9880831
/jp/ deletes them because they should go on /cgl/ because /jp/ doesn't want cosplay craft talk.
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>>9880879
it's not fetish gear shithead.
I'm not even into kig (think they're kinda creepy) but it's a legitimate craft and as
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>>9880772
said it was originated for children's stage shows.
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>>9880879
i highly doubt you read every thread on cgl
if you follow your logic, any cosplay can be viewed as fetish gear. not everybody is into it the way you're assuming everyone here is.
just hide and ignore it. youre acting like a child, cgl doesn't belong to you.
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>>9880852
their nose sits against a padded area above the lips in the kig. it's not as bad as you'd think!
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>Not a single pic of Natsuki
What are you ppl even doing?
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>>9880638
>as somenoe who was disgusted by the form of 3d, this is heaven sent for me

The posters of this thread in a nutshell
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>>9880933
They get deleted because you’re creepy no matter where you go
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I feel like the mods also like kigurumis, cause wew, even normal comments are deleted just because someone said something negative about kigurumi.
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>>9881131
The only deleted comments are those trying to derail the thread.
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So I love these masks but am completely lost on how to make one. Any good tutorials out there? Have any of you made one? If so, what materials did you use? Any tips? Please and thank you!
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>>9881160
3D printing seems to be the increasing in popularity, there's also the option of casting a mold from clay sculpt (costly) and pepakura. There's also shops like munimuni.jp that sell premade bases and other supplies for DIY, they also have tutorial videos on their YouTube.
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>>9881160
Fiberglass, FRP. Abs etc few people on the kigurumi discord made their own masks. Most people tend to buy then from a maker
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>>9881188
>Another creepy general ruled by a supersecret discord cabal
God this is getting so annoying
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>>9881190
Lol the discord isnt KCS or run by Cici so dunno what your complaints are. Mods are pretty open about stuff that goes on in there
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>>9881194
Idk who any of those people are but it's fucking stupid how we have so many generals in here run and organized by discords. It's like they're constantly shilling themselves all over the board and we can't get rid of them.
Keep your discord shit separate from my 4chan thanks
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>>9881203
>Keep your discord shit separate from my 4chan thanks
>not knowing 4chan got a discord server itself
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>>9880371
Where does luluidoll get her masks from? They're so beautiful
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>>9881258
Nukopan? I think?
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>>9881188

I make my own masks, but I'm not on the discord.

If you have the artistic skills to make your own masks, you can do unique and original characters. Or you can do established characters that no commercial maker does.
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>>9881266
Yeah, they are Nuko shells she modifies herself. She posts her progress pics at https://twitter.com/mi_te_yo
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>>9880383
Judging from what I've seen and read I would agree that this is mostly accurate
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>>9881301

Which only proves the point that anything can become a fetish.
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>>9880148
I think these are really creepy in real life but look cute in pics.
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they're kinda cute and i appreciate it as an art form,but i can't stop thinking about how 90% of the people wearing them are probably creepy middle-aged guys...and everytime i see one i just think of how awkward irl interactions would be like, something inbetween a silent kiddy mascot and an actual cosplayer...it just doesn't mesh with me
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>>9881297
>>9881258
>her
i refuse to believe there are girls inside any of these masks
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>>9881877
The girl inside luluidoll is mi_te_yo on Instagram. She's very cute.
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>>9881810
Because in a static photo, nothing is moving, but in person, the face doesn't move but the rest of the body does. (Personally they start to look creepy even in static photos when there's more than one photo of the same person in series, or when the photographer doesn't do a good job of making it look dead-eyed)
When people start to stick in some face driven animatronics into these masks then hopefully it'll negate the creepiness a bit.
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> What is your opinion on Animegao/kigurumi?
Anyone who has their entire body covered tends to give me the creeps. Their photos online almost always have some sort of fetish thing added to it and I find it extremely unsettling. But all of the animegao cosplayers I've seen in person stick to themselves or their social group and have never really done anything to set off actual red flags. I think the costumes that look like BJDs are actually kind of pretty though.
I guess if you're a big ugly who wants to cosplay this is the way to go. Wear foam tits. Be free.
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>>9882122
decide for yourself
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>>9882202
>Responding to soup
Kys newfag
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>>9881877

This is a case where a picture is worth a thousand words.

However, I know that's not going to convince some.
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>>9881297
The airbrushing (?) on this is really nicely done. Must take a lot of work to make these look so good.
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>>9881893

You may have a point there about a static expression.

True some kig mask makers have experimented with varying success adding animation.

But then even the latest Mickey Mouse mascots only blink their eyes, not move or roll the eyeballs as well. So don't go holding the fans to higher than professional standards.
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>>9882224
I don’t think that’s actually soup. It seems to be the new trend for everyone to put soup in the name field. Check out the bad cosplay thread literally half of the posters are “soup”
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>>9882237
What are you talking about? I’m the real soup.
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>>9881877

I don't have to take it on faith. I KNOW several of the girls who Kig as a hobby. Some of them even do Male Characters.
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>>9882225
There's little mechanical reason that with a big head like you'd get wit ha kig it wouldn't be possible to put some sort of framework in and a silicone skin on top of that for facial expressions. Disney parks keeping things simple's probably for maintenance's sake so that it's not breaking down more then they'd like. (Not really a problem if you're only going to be cosplaying for a few hours.)
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>>9881877

I don't have to take it on faith. I KNOW several of the girls who Kig as a hobby. Some of them even do Male Characters.

All be it a more Chibi version than the Anime.
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>>9881828
So, you are OK with the Creepy teenagers who do Kigurumi, or the Creepy females who make a living as stage actors doing Kig shows?

Granted interactions are a bit stilted. IRL most Kig Performers don't have a pre-recorded soundtrack to react to. Nor do they have the face flexibility of a Mime to get their point across. That's why they have Handlers to field questions the same as Mickey or Goofy might in the theme park..
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>>9882199

A little known fact about amateur Anemegao Kigurumi performance, is the Japanese style.

In nutshell these Kig performers strive to be more professional in public, than the Paid Stage actors. That includes major people skills when it comes to interacting with their younger audiences one on one.

Yes a group of Kig girls will stick to themselves, as they won't proactively attempt to interact with their audience. They let the audience make the first moves.
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>>9882283
Thats an actual kig. They are pretty well known on the lewd scene
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>>9882711

In that picture somebody IS wearing that Cow-girl mask. ( Ears, Horns, Stock tags, Cowbell choker. )
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>>9882681
>>9882777
Why do you even reply to the troll.
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>>9881890
She's also planning a bjd kig gala atm, girls-only at that.
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>>9883279
Of course she also opens a girls-only kig club.
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>>9883284
Details for the first event (you don't need to attend in kig):
https://passmarket.yahoo.co.jp/event/show/detail/017vkbzk78d0.html
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>>9883279
>>9883284
Is she gay?
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>>9883289
Considering she is married with children, no. You seem to forget that people share a dressing room at kig events and I doubt that Minori and Co want to get undressed next to dick owners.
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>>9883302
Japanese nerds are pretty much always segregating themselves by gender, what’s new.

Anyway, when it comes to small costumed meets, its really just not cost efficient to rent another room for one or two people of the opposite gender. It’s a way to keep costs down for the attendees as well.

>inb4 “you’re replying to a troll”
Yeah I know, I just wanted to share
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>>9880148
You think they make these as airsofting masks?
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>>9883456
If you can deal with the very limited vision, then yes.
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I kinda think they look cute
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdlfhDQv1oo
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>>9880378
Oh my sweet summer child, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Like, at all.
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I LOOOOVE kigurumi!

And yeah, I'm tired of the threads always being in /jp/ cause it's not a board for talking about costuming! Which yeah sorry y'all animegao is ancostumig hobby first, otaku hobby second!

NOW, let me introduce you to my favorite kiggers of all time! The one and only robo kig idols! I don't know much about them but I follow them on YouTube, and they do a weekly show I think where they signand dance. I love them so much! They are pure!!!
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>>9886218
I'll readily admit I like this. It's still unnerving but oddly charming because it's unnerving. I do have an odd fascination with Lulu though so I'm probably a bit biased towards this creator's doll masks.
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>>9880148
1. Good way to cosplay if you don't wanna show your face.

2. Where else

3. /jp/ may send you back here, since this is the most appropriate board. However, this board will also bitch about absolutely everything.
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>>9887802
it belongs on /jp/ and /jp/ has hosted this thread for years. There's no reason to change it because you want to be a dick and put your fetish gear on a new board.
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>>9887807
No, /jp/ is deleting these threads because they belong here. As for your unwarranted bitchiness, please come back when you're done with your PMS.
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>>9887807
Hoe, the only reason it was on /jp/ is because it was JUST an image dump thread.

If people are actually gonna talk about CREATING the costumes, WEARING the costumes, and the CULTURE, then yes this is absolutely the board for animegao.
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>>9887807
>Fetish

Try and say that to the pure faces of the robo idols and see if you don't get smacked! They would never do anything lewd!!!
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>>9880389
>hi im visiting from a new board
>you know more about this board than me? must be a newfag
Crossboarder logic. Go home.
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I really dislike that many makers dumped direct eye vision for those tiny eyelid slits. Did they forget that car tint is a thing? ManiaJun's even turn smaller and smaller with each release.
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>>9888148
Is that the vision LMAO!????
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Animegao aside this is scary as heck man
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>>9884581
>fangs
goooodddd this is so cute, I really gotta try making one. Sorta would like to add some weeb ass cat ears
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>>9888163
It is.
His masks with closed eyes have pretty big ones tho while smaller ones would be more fitting for those as there is a vision spot in the lashes anyways...
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>>9880888
I meant on the cyclops mask. Not your nose when you wear it.
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>>9880663

Looking at all the youtube footage I would hazard a guess that there is a sizeable contingent who use the "Doll" style Kigurumi masks as a basis for doing one form or the other off Fashion Kigurumi.

What Luluidoll is doing is a step deeper, in that the bodysuit mimics the Ball Jointed Doll armatures. This I would Consider BJD Kigurumi.

Again depending on the style of clothing, you could have Lolita Kigurumi, Steampunk Kigurumi, even Gothic Kigurumi.

So far as I am aware Shironuri still consists of painting your face white and has not progressed into using masks. However if it did, that style would probably be called Shironuri Kigurumi, as the Mask would be completely white.
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>>9888196
Hey that's actually pretty neat. You got a pic of the full outfit?
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Nope, only two close ups cause I'm a loser.
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>However if it did, that style would probably be called Shironuri Kigurumi, as the Mask would be completely white.
That's already a thing, masks that look like someone just painted the face.
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>>9888315
oh I assumed you weren't actually asking that since it's kinda obvious it's a stylistic choice? a nose on them would look really dumb
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>>9889765
At least for the younger looking ones, it really does look better (pic related) but then again, most anime characters barely have a nose nowadays.
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>>9888192
I know nothing about this, but I am stunned at how clean all the robotic/alien-esc ones are. Are these characters or OCs?
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>>9881893
I doubt animatronics will help. You've seen those 'realistic moving girl robot' prototypes in Japan. The creepiness is still there. IMHO
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OMG has anyone done one for Magicaloid from MGRP? That would be kawaii, plus probably the only legit way to cosplay that character.
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>>9890513
Yes but it looks little off due to how flat the hair was made.
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>>9890268
That's the great thing about having a human right there to pull motion from instead of it being 100% self sustaining, you can have the human, at least in a limited degree, puppeteer the face. (Moving jaw, etc.)
And with most androids they're shooting for absolute realism, which nosedives into the uncanny valley hard, not nearly as much of a problem for anime faces (When done right of course).
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That book may be useful for those into the robo-type.
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>>9890554
Thanks anon! Tho you're right, it could have been done better.
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>>9890564
So on all the listings I saw this is called the "Japanese edition". Does that mean there are editions in other languages?
I can't seem to find any others...
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>>9890669
There isn't any as far as I'm aware, maybe they wanted to make one but it never happend.
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>>9890686
Okay, it still looks very cool.
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All I really got.
Fresh* off twitter

>two weeks old
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Miku
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>>9893041
For something that looks like an official event these kind of wonky
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>>9893089
Fan made at AN opening ceremonies
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>>9893139
The CCS looks cute as heck.
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>>9893656
Cute! CUTE!! Though the lack of bellybutton is a little disturbing
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I've had this one in my hard drive for a while, glad to finally bust it out~
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/r/ing the train photo full of masked people inside
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>>9895649
>Rattling sounds

>>9895158
Hey don't be a brat
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>>9895646
Dude literally just Google those two words, it's right THERE.
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>>9887628
>>9887630
I'm getting huge G1 transformers vibes from these. I love it.
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>>9890836
I sually find kigs creepy but these two look really cute to me. Hope that with 3D printing this level of quality becomes the norm.
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Some cosplayers just want to get that cartoony video game look that sometimes only a mask can bring
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>>9880148
this is like being a fursuiter, but with "humans"
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>dressing up as anime characters is perfectly ok
>crossdressing as anime characters is generally ok
>but if you put an anime mask on it's automatically weird and gross
Sometimes I underestimate the amount of hypocritical (wo)manchildren on this board. Anime kigurumi can be done poorly or well, just like cosplay/lolita/fursuiting/general fashion. It's even less sexual than crossplay since the person involved is usually wearing a zettai suit and completely covering their face. It's weird but also neat, people put a lot of work into their masks/costumes/wigs to get them to work well together.
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>>9897238
I'd enjoy this image a lot more if it wasn't taken on the equator.
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>>9897248
My bad, I assumed the metadata had it rotated properly. Not a great pic since I took it on the fly, but I was super surprised to see anime kigu at a stateside con and thought it was really well done.
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>>9897256
Most definitely a man. That stance, a mile away I tell you.
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>>9897332
A lot of anime kigu are guys, so it wouldn't be surprising. I don't judge, though. I have nothing but respect for their dedication.
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>>9898212
Dump courtesy of the #着ぐるみ tag on twitter.
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>>9898195
>>9898206
Damn those masks are beautiful. If I had one like that I would want to wear it 24/7
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In pictures some of them look good, outside of pictures they probably look weird since they have absolutely no change in expression.
The cheap ones look creepy. I'd probably get one as long as it's well made.
They really remind me of those anime style fursuits.
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Goukaou released a BJD hada.
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I don't know if this counts as an example of animegao or kigurumi, but sarokichi creates masks that are breathtaking works of art. Her style of mask leans more toward the creepy side but they are extremely well done in my opinion. Some of her masks feature articulated jaws. More of her works can be found on her twitter account: @sarokichi.
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it's kind of shitty looking because most anime styles have lankier limbs and tinier heads than irl
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>>9899933
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>>9899941
I love these so much. Thank you, anon.
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This is out of hand
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Pass, it looks like too much effort to wear.
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>>9899531
>Goukaou
How do I get one?
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>>9900320
/jp/ has a kig thread with a link to a google doc full of kig resources like where to buy masks and hadatai. Goukaou is in there with plenty others.
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>>9900324
why do we need 2 threads though if there's already one on /jp/?
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>>9901890

Slightly different focus. This thread is more about the conventions and the costumes than /JP/
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>>9901890
/jp/ in general is only about image dumps, talking about makers, resources and so on gets nuked.
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Not sure why but UNIQLO started selling the obvious for under burquas but as it's spandex, it would work well as hood for under masks too
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Discord Kigurumi Mask Makers and Resources Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SxisIf9QyaETiM0OcIWNdPcgStnkKipKvSnc_z5MmEw/edit?usp=sharing
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>>9882202
oh my how lewd
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Those weren't even nipples but I covered them.
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>>9899937
Not into the kigu thing in general, I came in looking for video of the ballerina doll but omg, these creepy ones for Halloween are sooo perfect. 10/10 would wear for the scare.
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I just bought a blank one of these myself to make a project out of. I'm excited to give it a try.
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Well done follow-me eyes are the best.
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I think they are getting more accepted for cosplay but keep them out of any regular jfashion meets, there's a stigma. Like furry x lolita, they will hate it. But cod playing at a con? It will get some strange looks and maybe questions but I think it will be tolerated. Be prepared to remove it and show ID if needed and if you can't see well, use a handler to help you.
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>>9880349
Found the tag for these on Twitter! They are so adorable.
#ちもさんフレンズ
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>>9912334
>there's a stigma
It's beyond just a stigma; fursuits and masks like these are costumes and have no place at a fashion meetup.
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>>9912383
>no place at a fashion meetup
And that's sure why the ones in Japan are full of the BJD ones.
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>>9912623
The fashion meetups in which friends meet one another for shopping and fun are full of people wearing BJD masks? Interesting.
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>>9880148
I like the good looking ones, but most look like either creepy, badly made costumes or make you loose your entire neck. Seems the professional ones of the only ones I've seen looking good really. But when done good I love them for cosplay or maybe other events/happenings that allow costumes/extremely weird things (not necessarily in a bad way). Like high fashion photoshoots.
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>>9881258
>>9880371
>>9880787
http://luluidoll.jp/
She's a designer in designing/making art with these things, not just some random Instagrammer. She also did a photoshoot with Victorian Maiden.
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>>9912623
No they aren’t, anon. Where did you get this info because it’s very very wrong.
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>>9913053
Did you even read the thread or not look at any of the JP brand tea parties recently?
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>>9913069
That’s 1. Not full of or many. Despite wishful thinking. It’s a one-off character. This is a very niche thing that isn’t common so stop trying to make it seem like lolita fashion is full of it when it’s just a rare and occasional mostly commercial thing for done for publicity.
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>1
>at least 3 meetups over the past 2 months as posted here
delusional
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>>9913091
These aren’t regular meet ups they are brand meets, teas and photo shoots etc. ALL STAGED...and lulu is 1 character with a tightly controlled image that is trending right now. I get it that you probably really like her and that’s fine but don’t get to thinking that this is some new era next level lolita shit because to most of us in lolita it’s just one weird doll-masked character making a few commercial public appearances.
Sorry pal, lulu is not the new face of lolita.
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>>9913101
>thinking every Nukopan kig is lulu
kek
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>>9913106
All lulu, right?
>>9913095
>>9913091
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>>9913075
>>9913069

The rest, unknown and that’s not unusual, most people (and most lolitas) don’t know anything about these, that’s my point. This is a kigurumi head thread so of course interest is much higher but someone posted lulu to a fb lolita group and the most common reply was curious interest but ‘not lolita’.
We don’t need to wear Kigu heads, anon, we are for the most part decent looking lolitas. And I don’t know even one comm that would accept a Kigu head wearer at our regular comm meets at all. It would be really weird if someone showed up wearing one.
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>>9913124
...those aren't Lulu, only >>9913095 and >>9913069 is so thanks for proving me right.
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>>9913128
The other 3 are the same one though so there are 2 modeling for brands then? Look, like them as much as you want, no one is saying they are bad or weird or such but please do not pretend they are at all common in lolita fashion or even associated much with lolita fashion outside of some advertising and staged meets outside of maybe some isolated groups of people who wear them because these doll heads are not at all some kind of a lolita fashion thing.
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>>9913132
I never said they were common but you were the one saying they don't belong into lolita fashion, JP sees that different.
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>>9913132
Newsflash: All of lolita fashion is staged, nobody wears it in their daily life.
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>>9880148
I think they are fine for cosplay and advertising and as performance costumes but I’d be a little freaked out to just hang out with someone who did this as some kind of fashion thing or tried to associate it with lolita. I wouldn’t like it in that context.
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>>9913140
Why do I get the feeling you don’t get out much and spend a lot of time in strange places on the web, enough time to start thinking things like this are not uncanny valley levels of weird to most people?
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The response of people who are outside of the carefully controlled marketing photos is this.
More realistic side.

>>9913137
Everyday JP people react as so.
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>>9913176
>things like this are not uncanny valley levels of weird to most people
You mean like lolita?
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>>9913215
Ah, the very famous staged photo
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>>9913215
They will poke fun at lolita fashion like this, sure but odd frilly clothes aren’t anywhere nearly as high on the weirdness scale as identity-hiding expressionless doll masks.

Lolitas may dress somewhat like dolls but few to none of us desire to BE dolls.
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>>9913140
>nobody wears it in their daily life
Factually incorrect.
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>>9913488
I have yet to see anyone to work in Lolita besides those working in brand shops, even in Japan.
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>>9913661
It's true that most adults can't wear it daily because of work-related constraints, but saying that "nobody" wears it daily is an exaggeration and again, factually incorrect. Some adults are students who are free to wear what they want, others work in environments that don't put a lot of emphasis (if any) on looks or even encourage creativity, which allows people to wear lolita if they choose to. I work in an art school, my position isn't even directly related to art or fashion but I'm still allowed to wear whatever I want, so I wear lolita.
Is it rare to see lolitas on a regular day? Sure. Is it 100% impossible and implies no one ever wears it outside of conventions or meetups? No, absolutely not.
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>>9913669
>Is it 100% impossible and implies no one ever wears it outside of conventions or meetups? No, absolutely not.
Then why act like it it applies to every other niche subculture?
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>>9913672
If you mean the discussion upthread about the doll masks being "everywhere" at lolita meetups, it's because it's not true. The doll meetups may not all be for publicity, if there are enough people who do this it's entirely possible that there are meetups that are casual and organized by fans of these masks, who may also wear lolita; but it's not directly tied to what lolita meetups are about. It's like saying that because living dolls wear lolita sometimes, then lolita fashion is all about being a living doll. And judging by the responses this question got in the lolita gen >>9913129 I doubt the ordinary lolita comm would be okay with this. Also afaik Japanese lolitas don't really have communities like westerners do so comparing the two scenes is a bit misguided.
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>>9913688
>2018
>still taking sentences literal
Which doesn't change the fact that they are part of meetups and saying they shouldn't be there is stupid, more so when brands are collabing with Lulu for future "doll only" meetups to prevent dying by expanding the target audience.
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>>9913704
They are a part of some meetups... in Japan. And they're often (maybe always) official events rather than casual meetups between friends. This was said up thread as well but apparently you refuse to listen to anything that doesn't fit your narrative.
Also, brands collaborating with her is fine but that doesn't mean that all lolitas are on board with it. Of course quite a few love her, she wouldn't be popular otherwise, but that's like saying that because brands have collaborated with Disney then it means all lolitas must love Disney too.
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>>9913661

>tfw have worn IW and AP to work for last 4 years.

I mean, I don't work in fast food so maybe that's why we've never met? That, plus I think you don't really know what lolita actually looks like?

Some anons in one of the confessions thread also talked about wearing lolita to their workplace.
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>rather than casual meetups between friends
She actually does run around like that casually, too, meeting up with others.
>but that doesn't mean that all lolitas are on board with it
Which was not the subject to begin with
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