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I dont want to believe this to be true, but is it just me noticing this? I've been going to cons for going on 8 years now and this last AX was a big punch in the face to me. After day 2 I was thinking to myself that I wasnt seeing as many cosplayers as I normally would and then my friend actually said it aloud. Fanime was almost the same feeling but not to the extent that I was feeling at AX.

Someone please tell me I just happened to be at all the wrong places at the wrong times and just didnt see as many people.
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Probably because it's becoming a lot more mainstream. I would love to see statistics on it but it does feel like smaller cons have a higher ratio of cosplayers.
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Because fuck cosplaying around 100k people in the middle of the summer, shit is hot af and you can't even get around. Maybe if there were separate areas like comiket...
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It was fucking 110 degrees at AX anon. Cosplay isn’t going anywhere calm your tits.
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>>9938022
There was a ton more cosplayers last year because the heat wasn't as intense.
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>>9938022
Blame all the cosplay thots that cosplay for all that beta orbiter money.
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>>9938052
This but partially unironically. Them mainstream impression of cosplay is less an artisan's hobby and more a thing softcore porn artists do for money.
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Many people who normally cosplay didn’t at AX this year, myself included. Turns out it’s not fun to wear a costume while you need to wait in multiple hour long lines, push yourself through crowds of people, and stand in 100+ degree heat.

Cosplay is literally the most popular it’s ever been right now. There’s nothing to be concerned about.
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>>9938022
ehh i still saw lots of cosplayers. i think its mostly because of what someone already pointed out, anime is getting more and more mainstream every year. so theres a mass amount of normie fans compared to the weebs/cosplayers. so it just looks like there are less cosplayers.

at least thats how i see it. i go to SDCC every year and honestly it seems like i see more and more cosplayers every year.
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>>9938022
Cosplaying isn't becoming "less" popular. It's just that places like AX are becoming normie central. For every 1 cosplayer, there is like 40 more regular attendees to outnumber us.

So there isn't less of us. Just more of regular attendees.
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Thank Patreon and costhots.
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>>9938022
it feels like people are going to cons to pick up people. ax was hot af too.
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>>9938022
>Why aren't people wearing over complicated costumes and makeup in 100+ degree weather
Are you fucking retarded? I cosplay normally everyday of cons and even I said "no" to AX cosplaying. Why the fuck would I want to get in all black wizard robes with three layers of clothing in 100 degrees?
It's just that nobody wanted to get heatstroke. Hell, the temperatures were so bad that some people were taking to the ER due to the heat.
Cosplay isn't becoming unpopular, if anything, it's more popular than ever. It's just that people don't want to burn alive this year at AX.
Anime California is coming up and from what I heard, August is gonna be a lot cooler.
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Wanted to add in SDCC threads people are advocating not cosplaying. With the swarms of people and cramped hallways cosplay just gets in the way. Big industry cons people tend to have blinders on as we only care about what events we can see and swag to get. I don't got time to get my picture taken or take a picture as I gotta get in line to the next hype shit.

Plus with how crowded these cons are, I do not want to endanger my outfits, props or clog the hallways with huge photo lines.
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Yes, but only because cosplay had a massive spike in the last two years.
Now it is dropping back to normal levels while noncosplayer convention attendees are rising
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>>9939167
no one has thought cosplaying at sdcc was a good idea for half a decade, though. this is not new behavior and not indicative of any cosplay-specific trend, it's just a really poor con for cosplay for a bunch of con-specific reasons.
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its becoming more and more acceptable
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110+ degrees
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>>9938022
Anime North 2018 to me had more cosplayers then Anime North 2017.
This holds about the same for otakuthon 2016 vs 2017.
Con Bravo 2016 had more people then 2017. However cosplays have told me they dislike the con for how some are being treated.

Anime Expo 2017 kind of did have more cosplayers when compared to 2018. I think this has to do with the fact that heat wave changed a lot of people plans. I seen more people stay out for shorter times.
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>>9938022
there's no decline of cosplay. if anything, it's currently growing with the quality of the average costume and the number of people who are both aware of and participate
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celebs made it a little more trendy to wear costumes, i mean check the social media whenever halloween comes
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Just for reference...
Keep in mind, it is still far more popular than it was when this board started back in 2006, but it certainly seems to have been declining since 2015, so make of that what you will.
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>>9938052
Virgin alert
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When i started cosplay in 2004 there was maybe 200 people out of the 1000 at the con. I remember going to MCM Expo and it had about 5000 people show up.

Now it's over 100,000 and tons of people have aliexpress cosplays. So no it's not really dying it's just become more mainstream so people don't feel the need to do it at every single con because there will always be another around the corner with better weather and conditions.
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I think it's actually dropping due to the OMG you HAVE to cosplay! has reverted to cosplay if you want to. Costumes are not the most comfortable things to wear so I don't put mine on for trips to the vendor hall, standing in line for badge/autographs or any busy event.

I think I've also seen a decrease in the number of people doing cheap/half-assed cosplays as they just don't get the attention that they used to (rightfully so) which increases the number of plain clothes attendees.

The current boom and bust cycle of popularity doesn't help anything either. I like to get some mileage out of my cosplays if I plan on spending over $200 buying or that + 40 hours making them. It's too much work/money for something you only get to wear for one year and then the popularity kicks the bucket.
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>>9938968
>For every 1 cosplayer, there is like 40 more regular attendees to outnumber us.
This statement is accurate. Congoer attendance has gone up, but fewer cosplayers overall.
>>9938028
>Probably because it's becoming a lot more mainstream.
It's not....
>>9939949
>its becoming more and more acceptable
Not true.
>>9940142
>celebs made it a little more trendy to wear costumes
Also false.
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>>9942662
How is it not more mainstream? How many cosplay TV shows were there 5 or 10 years ago?
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Because its freaking hot in Southern california
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>>9942666
Actually, there's not any more cosplay TV shows now than there were 5 years ago. Unless something brand new came out this summer I was unaware of.
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>>9942666
My response was to cosplay not becoming more mainstream, not the presence of TV shows about that topic.
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>>9940964
>OMG you HAVE to cosplay!

Holy shit the first time I cosplayed it was 2006 Otakon and the girl who invited everyone to join her was like "you can't get in the car without a cosplay! uwu" Totally forgot this was a thing.

I guess we can gauge this by the drop in "Do I have to cosplay at a con?" posts
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>>9942677
I mean Cosplay Melee came out in 2017 so there actually is?
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>>9942678
how do you determine if something is mainstream or not?
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Did cosplay for Dragoncon a few years ago and the Georgia humidity tore me up just from wearing a damn jumpsuit.

I just go to cons in dad mode now. Oddly enough this gets me more attention.
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Am I a massive faggot if I decide to do a shirtless cosplay for horribly hot cons like AX?
Otakon is coming up and I'm really thinking of just saying fuck it and going as Haru from Free.
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>>9942731
are you ripped? if yes, you'll be fine
just remember the sunscreen and whatnot (remember a light jacket too for the random times where you're in the convention center in a cold ass air conditioned room)
no one wants a burn at a con
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>>9938028
>>9938970
I agree i feel like its becoming really mainstream and sexual
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>>9940147
Cosplay becoming more popular could just mean that there are more spectators. It doesn't necessarily mean there are more cosplayers.
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>>9942662

Cool. Maybe next time you can explain why you disagree with these anon's opinions.
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Since everything you need to make a good costume (wigs, etc) is a lot more accessible than 8 years ago when I first started cosplaying, the bar has been raised for cosplayers. It's pretty much get really good at cosplay by putting a ton of time and effort into your cosplays or gtfo. Not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, just in my experience it's a lot less about being casual and fun and way more about looking professional. Also the rise of instagram is probably a contributing factor.
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>>9942791
Well, nobody asked me to explain, so I don't feel compelled to.

>>9942681
Never heard of it. And I can't name another single co-goer I know who has even mentioned it.

Oh, okay so a *single* example proves your point? That's just a statistical outlier, brah.

>>9942695
Certainly not by the presence of TV shows. In the last 5 years vaping has become WAY more mainstream, but I'll be damned if I can think of a handful of TV shows about vaping. Do you know of any?

>>9942746
It's *always* been sexual. Where have you been?
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Its too hot at ax to wear my big stuff. It’s why ALA is my favorite con to cosplay at because it’s in January.
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>>9938968
>AX is becoming normie central
Ugh don't remind me, it hurts to think about. I've heard quite a bit of talk about people getting tired of AX because of all the damn people and just giving up on it.
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>>9938028
>Probably because it's becoming a lot more mainstream.
False

>I would love to see statistics on it but it does feel like smaller cons have a higher ratio of cosplayers.

This is probably accurate. More popular cons grab the attention of normies who attend for the eye candy. They See it like a zoo with the cosplayers as the attractions, like circus freaks.
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>>9938968
Every year I go to AX I overhear some dude complaining about weebs at a weeb convention. It boggles the mind
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>>9944975
some people have different definition for the term "weeb".

like me, i still use its "original definition" as in someone who thinks japan culture is superior to everything else. with the extension of it describing someone whos into anime in an autistic way, like those loud, overly eccentric anime fans.

i still think its dumb when people use the word "weeb" or "weeaboo" as someone who just likes anime or anything japan related since that wasnt really the original intention for the word.
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>>9944950
I'm pretty sure most people go for the panels, merch, and cosplays
seems really weird to try to divide it into "normies" and everyone else when literally everyone is there because they like anime, except for a few retards like in the other thread
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>>9944950
>They See it like a zoo with the cosplayers as the attractions, like circus freaks.
Fucking this
The worst of which being the cunts who take pictures without permission at clearly inappropriate times (like when you're eating or putting your wig on in the con's entrance queue)
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>>9944983
And even that's not the original usage. Before it was "Weeb/Weeaboo" based of the Perry Bible Fellowship comic, the term was "Wapanese", specifically for White Kids who tried to be Japanese.

Weeaboo covers more ground/races so it's an overall improvement, though.
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>>9944983
>i still think its dumb when people use the word "weeb" or "weeaboo" as someone who just likes anime or anything japan related since that wasnt really the original intention for the word.
This is honestly one of my biggest pet peeves nowadays. It's also annoying when normalfags label anything Japanese as "weeb"
>waiting for JSL to start
>overhear some faggot nearby calling the upcoming anisong music "weeb music"
Like what the fuck is that supposed to mean? Japanese people listen to this music too. "weeb" and "weeaboo" have really become buzzwords recently
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>>9944985
I mean when I started attending cons in the late 90s, merch was where it was at. That being said, remember this was the early days of ebay, Amazon, and online shopping. Now I don't got there for merch, but for panels.
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>>9945304
regardless, I don't know where these people think "normies" are coming from that will drop 200+ dollars so they can show up to a convention for anime when they don't like it at all. It's just a boogeyman
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RFID badges this year did stop some cosplayers from going to AX, since tons use to ghost and could not. I noticed because tons were outside shooting and never went inside once.
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Real cosplayers feel out of place. It's too many "cosplay groups" , non-fans,and "store bought". It's takening the fun out of it.
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>>9945964
>Real cosplayers
What a weird way to phrase things. As if there's some criteria where if you buy a part of your cosplay or commission a part of it you're not authentic.
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>>9945970
I mean, yeah. There is criteria. That's why cosplay comps have rules.
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>>9946022
There is a difference between competing and having fun with friends. So what if someone wants to buy/commission their entire cosplay to hang with their friends. Not everyone has the time to make every piece of their cosplay due to work/other priorities.
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>>9945964
This has been a thing since people began cosplaying. There have always been cosplay groups and people have always bought costumes. Granted, it's easier and cheaper to do it now. If you want to cosplay at a con but don't have the time, skill or resources, you can buy one. That should in fact, lower the bar to allowing more people to partake in the hobby rather than making it less popular.

People have been brought into groups who are not fans of the series for eons as well, because they want to cosplay with their friends.

There are plenty of people who make their costumes and compete and buy to wear for shits and giggles from time to time.

You wear a cosplay you are a real cosplayer. If you play dress up doll games you're probably not a real cosplayer.
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>>9946033
>If you play dress up doll games you're probably not a real cosplayer.

This exactly.This is so true that I actually got a visualization of JNig when I read it.

>>9946027
There's nothing wrong with using store bought stuff to hang out with friends and have fun. There is, however, a negative stigma to doing so. You just won't be seen as a real cosplayer.
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>>9946258
"Real" cosplayer lmao.
Are you in cosplay? Congrats, you're a real cosplayer. Is it good, we don't know, but it's cosplay.
Where are all these fake cosplayers that are wearing not-cosplays?
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>>9946267
Well, I just named one in my post above yours
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>>9946278
Nigiri for all the hate she gets, still wears cosplays. I don't see how her stuff is not cosplay even if it's stupid and exclusively lewds
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>>9946283
>I don't see how her stuff is not cosplay even if it's stupid and exclusively lewds
Then you don't understand what cosplay is.

>Nigiri for all the hate she gets, still wears cosplays

hmmmm....how does one wear a verb?
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>>9946292
Did you forget that a cosplayer is a person who wears a cosplay? If you're in a costume based on a pop culture character congrats, you're a cosplayer, you're cosplaying. Fuck outta here with your pedantic shit
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>>9946300
Fuck off you cultural marxist
Having standards help a hobby stay great
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>>9946300
>Did you forget that a cosplayer is a person who wears a cosplay?
I didn't forget a false piece of information. You don't wear a cosplay. cosplay is something that you do.

The combination of the words "costume" and "roleplay" is cosplay. It's a verb. That is to say that you cosplay at a con, or you cosplay a character. You wear a costume.

>If you're in a costume based on a pop culture character congrats, you're a cosplayer, you're cosplaying.

So every Elvis Impersonator, every character actor at Disney World, every stage actor, every every musician who performs live, and everyone in the military is a cosplayer? Way to lower the bar....good thing you're not in charge of any cosplay comp rules.
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>>9946305
>cultural marxist
and into the trash goes his opinion
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>>9946309
>Cosplay comp rules
Not every cosplay is entered in a competition
>Being this pedantic about the use of cosplay as a verb to refer to a costume
Weeeeeeeew
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>>9942680
Honestly
>>OMG you HAVE to cosplay!
Should come back. In addition to early 2000s anime and internet culture.
In addition to when I had a gf

I miss the early 2000s
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>>9946305
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>9946258
A person being a dress up doll is not what I implied.
>do you even dolldevine? lol
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>>9946332
Early 2000s was clearly the best time to be a fan of anime and attend cons in general
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Climate change kills cosplay.
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>>9938022
considering the community is becoming more elitist and shoving away cosplayers that don't look super canon (too fat, black, too old, bad details) we're pushing away people that want to cosplay but feel bullied. You can see we do this by the "bad cosplay" threads and shit like that. It doesn't matter if a minority does this or a majority, we're not being an inclusive community.

Also it was really hot at AX, so thats probably why there is fewer cosplayers.
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>>9946539
Part of what made cosplay amazing 15-20 years ago WAS the exclusivity.
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>>9944983
It started off as an insult towards people who would eat everything with chopsticks and use japanese phrases like arigato gozaimasu in every day conversations. But like any insult, normies misused it and people started to own that shit so the impact of the insult became meaningless.

>>9946309
So we're back to defining cosplay eh? Look, if you tell someone that you cosplay, they might ask who you cosplay as. The modern connotation to the word cosplay is that you dress up as a character from pop culture and go to cons. No one expects you to act like the character but some people do. It has nothing to do with if you make the costume or not. As for all those other things, there's a reason they don't call themselves cosplayers. LARPers are the perfect example because they literally dress up in costumes and roleplay. They don't call themselves cosplayers, they call themselves LARPers to differentiate the hobbies.
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I think the real answer lies in the participation and quality of costume contests.

How are the costume contests doing? What do the first, second, and third place costumes look like?
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>>9942795
I don't know why you wouldn't put a lot of effort into it to begin with.

Why would you want to look like shit?
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>>9938022

Ive been going to AX for 12 years and other cons.
It just depends on the con and the weather. AX hit 112° on saturday. Had friends decide not to wear the cosplays they had been working for months on. Understandably so.
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>>9946840
Do you not understand that the majority of people dressed up at a con just want to dress up as their favorite character and mess around.
Most people don't give a shit about Instagram likes or cosplay contests, which is another topic entirely because those are a shit show right now
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>>9946878
AX contest was a sick joke this year. I felt bad for the ones who had costumes they clearly spent several months on.
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>>9946906
Pretty much every contest now is bad since there's a on of issues that don't get addressed, like judges being biased and not really respecting non-dress sewing. Guys get grilled super hard and judges just pick their friends.
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>>9946779
>The modern connotation to the word cosplay is that you dress up as a character from pop culture and go to cons.
Incorrect. The definition of cosplay doesn't have anything to do with Pop Culture or attending cons. A person can cosplay without attending a convention can't they? In that case, attending a con has nothing to do with it and therefore isn't a requirement.

Furthermore, define "pop culture". I have seen many people cosplaying characters *not* from pop culture. Does this mean they aren't cosplaying?
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>>9947008
Maybe you should spend more time working on your cosplays instead of arguing about semantics online
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>>9947010
Well it's not my fault that someone else doesn't know how to cosplay....

My cosplay skills are just fine, btw
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>>9947017
Knowing how to cosplay and pedantically arguing online about bullshit no one cares about are two different things anon
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>>9946878
I do understand that.

But why would you want to look like shit? Even a modicum of effort helps.
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>>9947024
Most people don't look like shit...
Most people dress up well enough you can recognize them and they can have fun with their friends. That's it, that's all they want.
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>>9945225
>Like what the fuck is that supposed to mean? Japanese people listen to this music too. "weeb" and "weeaboo" have really become buzzwords recently

its just like using the term "nerdy" to describe things. "weeb" is just used in terms of japanese context.
yeah, its dumb but thats how it is nowadays.
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Firstly, 110 degrees. I’ve seen a lot of people in groups mention they aren’t cosplaying due to the weather. I was stupid enough to wear a full catsuit + armor to a convention in 100 degree weather and couldn’t even step outside once the entire day. Not convenient for a con.
Second of all, I feel like people are less willing to cosplay because of the internet reaction. Back then, if you did a shitty first cosplay people barely posted the photos to social media and instead posted them to albums listed on the con website that you would have to hunt and sort though for your pictures, but they were primarily shared between congoers. Nowadays you just have to search a hashtag or run a search and people are more than willing to rip cosplayers apart on social media - even the professional ones. No one likes to get shit on when they first start out but it makes you a better cosplayer in the end.
Third, cosplaying is expensive and takes time and effort. Most average nerds are floored by the cost an average costume takes, at least $70+ and maybe even 40+ hours of work. Most people aren’t going to want to do that for something they will wear only a handful of times.
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>>9947023
>bullshit no one cares about
Yet, there is an entire board dedicated to supposed bullshit......hmmmm maybe it's not as unimportant as you think it is....
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>>9947277
Are your retarded or can you just not read?
The stupid bullshit no one cares about is your dump pendantic definition of cosplay. No one cares what the original definition was it how you think there's some gate for what real and not real. People are just going to cosplay and have fun, and I guess you can sit here and say everyone is not a real cosplayer because they're not like the Asian girls you jack off to but who fucking cares?
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>>9947280
sigh.....

Yes, people cosplay and have fun. That is the point. You are just now figuring it out?

And yes cosplay comps have rules. The rules may vary from place to place but tend to follow the same basic guidelines (craftsmanship, integrity, performance).

You personally can't come along and change the definition of a word. If you don't like that, either get over it or publish your own dictionary.
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>>9947435
no one's trying to change the definition of the word, it just changed by itself as people used it in a different way. spending 10 posts arguing abut why you think cosplay can't be a noun is pedantic as fuck
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>>9947444
I'll spend as many posts as it takes. You can't seem to grasp a simple concept......sad really.
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>>9946972
cosplaying seriously as a guy is retarded as shit anyway, unless youre really handsome and fit/tall dont bother, just do it for fun/buy a good costume off ali
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>>9947456
....you understand that cosplay was indeed popularized by men, right?
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>>9947470
so was twitch streaming, now look at what its become
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>>9947473
lol I don't pay attention to Twitch; it's one of those things that I don't care about.
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>>9947482
ill spoonfeed the brainlet then.

jnig/patreon/momokun/instagram
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>>9947580

oh look, four MORE things I don't care about.
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>>9947008
You've confused connotation and definition.
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>>9946765
we're literally nerds in costumes we made at home, there were no insta models, there was no shaming, there were a fuck load of bad cosplays you fucking ape
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>>9949454
Perhaps that is the case.

Define "pop culture"

>>9949472
Yes, costumes we made at home. That is what made cosplay great back then. insta models have nothing to do with making a good costume.....idk why you even bring that up.

Regarding shaming, there absolutely was shaming. I watched a guy cosplaying as Vash get roasted by two of the judges during the pre-judging stage because he didn't know the name of his character, and when it was found out that he commissioned his friend to make his outfit for him, he became the laughing stock of the entire con. Shaming was most certainly a thing. Now at cons, fatties and uggos can have the shittiest-made cosplay and be a huge fucking landwhale but due to "cosplay at every size", everyone kisses your ass and worships the ground you walk on. Fuck that.

A fuck load of bad cosplays? I absolutely guarantee you there were a smaller percentage of bad cosplayers 20 years ago than there are today. The past 10 years have been a steady downhill slide in quality.
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>>9949584
Every time someone corrects you, you always crawl back to the idea that cosplay is only competitions. Stop. Barely anyone competes in those anymore after people realized how absolutely rigged it is and how shitty it is to spend half your con waiting to hear the judge say her friend wins.
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>>9949622
I'm not saying that cosplay is only in competitions. I'm saying that competitive cosplay is the only cosplay that counts for recognition.

Think about any hobby (weightlifting, tabletop games, cycling, yo-yo twirling, etc). You can enjoy your hobby and be amazing at it. But no matter how good you supposedly are, the people who compete at the hobby in an organized event and win are the ones who get professional recognition.
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>>9949626
>kai greene doesnt formally join mr olumpia anymore due to rigging(ie hes perma 2nd place)
>guess he has no right to call himself a bosybuilder

good job brainlet, are you confusing a hobbyist tailor(aka supercuck if male) for a cosplayer?

all your top cosplayers of the past like yaya and jnig have never made a single dress of their own, neither do most people now, its a waste of time you might as well raise your own cows for steak
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>>9949631
>top cosplayers
>jnig
lol you're delusional.

and btw wtf makes cosplayers supercucks?
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>>9949626
that's not how it works at all, that's not how it has ever been.
the funny joke cosplays or flashy but not as well put together ones have always gotten the most attention in halls

the fact that you're so hung up on contests, you constantly drop crossboarder memes, and the fact that you are unaware that cosplay quality across the board has been improved so much in the last 10 years, I'm thinking you've never even cosplayed once.
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Global warming affects Cosplayers
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>>9949644
cosplay quality (at least in the USA) has dropped significantly within the past 10 years. 2008-2012 was essentially the death knell of cosplay.

Regarding being "hung up" on contests: do you know how people determine top quality of anything? Having a contest. That's why we have any competition, from the smallest contest to the Olympics.
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>>9949654
alright you're definitely a troll then. There has been a huge increase in quality of the average cosplay in the last 10 years with the increase in availability of wigs, guides, materials, and everything else.
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>>9949657
lol nice bait. You are confusing quality and quantity.
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>>9949661
no one's that's replied to your stupid ass has confused that
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>>9949665
If that is the case, then you simply don't know what you're talking about.
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>>9949642
A man who does sewing for a hobby is a massive cuck beta, sorry.

Neckbeards who do the whole weapon/armor crafting thing may be somewhat autistic, but at least they still have their man card.
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>>9949675
So you're now attacking the SCA as well as cosplayers. If you hate cosplay so much, why are you even posting on this board?
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>>9949677
Anon is probably here to shitpost and rile you up.
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>>9949678
I'm on a cosplay board and I'm the only one here defending cosplay.....seems backwards.
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>>9949678
you should know /pol/ and /r9k/ people will sometimes reply to themselves to start a thread back up if no one takes the bait
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>>9949680
It's possible that other cosplayers see the shitposts and give up on the "argument" because it's pointless engaging someone who takes pleasure in getting people to respond. I'd advise the same to you, anon, you're wasting your breath.
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>>9949690
>>9949687
>>9949680
>implying you would ever have any respect at all for a man who spends hours upon hours sewing fabrics as a hobby

yeah ok
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>>9949690
>>9949687
I can believe this

>>9949694
Really? Then what's with all the cosplayer worship?
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>>9949694
Tailoring and alteration is an honourable profession tyvm
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>>9949710
>men cosplayers
>being worshipped

good one. the few ones that actually get even a fraction of the females all bought their own shit and are coasting by on looks(like the females).
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>>9949717
yeah, a guy who alters and tailors suits and other shit professionally works a dignified job.

The guy who cross stitches some weaboo naruto jumper for hours upon hours for dressing up is a massive beta.
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after 10+ years of cosplaying i've done almost every "dream" costume i've ever wanted to do and i'm happy with that. there's little drive to do something new now that i've done mostly everything. i figure other people might feel the same.
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>>9949728
This. This right here. This is why cosplay has been declining in quality; all of the talented cosplayers are retiring.

>>9949719
I wasn't saying men only. I just mean cosplayer worship in general.

>>9949720
Fuck it, then I guess all of my friends in the SCA are huge betas.
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>>9938970
And due to the news that happened during AX, add Momokun in there too
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>>9949780
>Momokun
WTF is Momokun and why is it important?
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>>9938968
AX just isn't really a "con" as we know it anymore. It's an "expo" now, like the name says, a place for people to go see official industry booths, panels, etc. Sucks for those of us who miss the old days when it was a social event for hardcore fans, but it's what the management wanted and I guess the US needed an official industry event. At least we have a lot of other cons in CA.
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>>9949784
She got caught sexually harassing cosplayers when it was announced she was a guest at one of the booths in the entertainment hall
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>>9938022

We really dont need more 2B and shitty Raven cosplayers anyway
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>>9949843
Holy shitballs she sounds like a douchecanoe
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>>9945225
>"weeb" and "weeaboo" have really become buzzwords recently
weve been using that word for years now. are you new
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>>9946332
>>9946421
This. Cosplay.com was super active. I got so many comments but now nobody write comments.
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>>9949728
>10+ years of cosplaying
Same here too. But since 2013/2014 I lost my big interest in cosplay. I still visit conventions but do no more cosplay. I wear only military outfits and this counts not really as cosplay.
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>>9950088
seconded. Cosplay.com was an outstanding place for info, news, and social interaction

>>9950114
Yep those years were the anticlimax of the death of cosplay in the states. I don't blame you for throwing in the towel
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>>9950132
Back then the cosplay community was in general more write-active. I got so many comments for my costumes, even the less good ones.
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>>9950024
She’s one of the more prominent cosplayers out there. I’m surprised you haven’t heard of her
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>>9949784
you live in the jungles or something? momokun is like, the 2nd biggest thing in cosplay, shes already surpassed jnig.
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>>9950253
lol pretty much everyone has already surpassed jnig....wasn't much there to out-do in the first place.

No I don't live in the jungles, just near London.
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>>9950479
>living in saudis sattelite country

well, its not really that surprising you wouldnt know anything at all about the happenings of the con world, after all, the uk doesnt even have a single con worth going to even if they gave free travel/lodgings.
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>>9950253
>>9950490
Sorry, I care about cosplaying not patreon whores
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>>9950536
Same here

>>9950490
I've only been here for two months, bruh. I'm an Amerifag. "all the happenings of the con world" didn't suddenly change nationwide in the past eight weeks.

Get a clue.
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>>9950479
>Person posting bait and trash talking America is a britfag
What a surprise lmao
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>>9950678
As I said, I am an Amerifag. I just happen to have spent the last two months living outside of London. The con scene here sucks royal balls. However, all of my previous statements come from my experiences in the states where my residence is.
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>>9944983

Weebs for me are the non japanese people often white people wishing they were japanese because they don't fit in among their on race. They also use japanese words in their daiy speaking which is fucking annoying. However I kinda grown older and sympathize with these people because they are just probably lonely and thats the only way they know how to connect with other people similar to them
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>>9938052

Best thing about con was hitting on these cosplay Thots because non of the beta would
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>>9949836

Time to go to ALA or smaller cons. Are there any cosplay cons ?
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>>9949861
>2B

that was 2017
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>>9950132
Why is Cosplay.com now so dead?
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>>9951662
Forums all over the web are dead/dying


Thanks 4chan/Lebbit
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>>9951662
this
>>9951698
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>>9951698
>Thanks 4chan/Lebbit
What? I think it's more Facebook and other social media like Instagram and Twitter. In my country all the cosplayers hang out on Facebook. I hate Facebook and some other social media sites. The community feel is really lost.
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>>9951757
>In my country all the cosplayers hang out on Facebook.
What country?
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>>9951909
In many european countries is Facebook very common.
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>>9950114
>>9950132
Best cosplay and conventions years are mid/end 00s.
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>>9938068
>it’s not fun to wear a costume while you need to wait in multiple hour long lines
Granted, but is there no way to change once inside?
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>>9952026
I would argue early/mid 00s, but yeah that sounds about right.

>>9952024
I know that; I was asking what country >>9951757
was from
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>>9949784
>WTF is momokun

thats PRETTY GOOD
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>>9938022
Because most cosplay contests are rigged.
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>>9952077
I mean, at my local cons, I can guarantee they are not. However, I do believe that it would be easy to rig a cosplay contest (like if a competitor is friends with the judges).

>>9952063
Sorry, I never heard of Momokun.
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>>9938022
my guess is that it's 1. cheaper to just walk around without buying a cosplay 2. people coming only for merch 3. the toxicity in the cosplay comm is getting bad especially with momokun and anime matsuri's recent call outs 4. this fucking heat is killing cosplays and we're overheating. 5. people would rather wear j fashions like fairy kei (which i've seen a lot lately nowadays) then overheat and die
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>>9939126
who are you quoting lmao
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>>9938059
>more a thing softcore porn artists do for money
So is it true then that many top professional cosplayers have a background as escorts?
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>>9938022
Maybe because anime conventions keep happening in super shitty hot weather?

If you check out normalfags, people doing cosplay or costumes seem to mainly happen during Fall and Winter, pretty much the Holiday Season or New Years when the Sun isn't so harsh.

Also, plenty of youtube videos showing people like dressing out at night rather than day.

All the similarities in all these events share one thing in common: The lack of sunlight

So yeah, maybe you should start trying to convince organizers to move all conventions to fall or winter.

Maybe Anime Expo should be moved sometime closer to Halloween.

It's not like this would create a new precedent since Anime Expo always happens near July 4th so moving Anime Expo to Halloween wouldn't really cause much stir.
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>>9949836
>Sucks for those of us who miss the old days when it was a social event for hardcore fans,


Why do people act like you can't socialize at cons like AX and SDCC?

>Going to room parties
>Hitting the nearby club scene
>Stopping cosplayers for photos and having conversations
>Talking to the people you wait in line with
>Bringing up someone's shirt or merch and chatting with them
>Meeting artists in the AA
>Cosplay gatherings and fan meetups

I've made so many friends this way at bot AX and SDCC. So much for them not being social
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>>9947733
>I don't care about it therefore it doesn't exist
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>>9952034
AX had a dumbass panels system this year where the lines for the panel rooms were *outside* -- under popup tents, sure, but you were still standing (sitting on the concrete may have been possible, but the queue aisles were pretty narrow) in 100F heat outdoors in order to go to a panel. When the panel started, staff would guide the lines indooors.

I get that it's supposed to be a method for cleaner queuing and to decrease hall congestion (with people not lining up outside of panel rooms), but there was no extra signage or information telling people where to go in order to line up. I was able to attend one panel on Thursday before the changes were implemented, and then gave up on trying to sit in on any more panels for the rest of the weekend.
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>>9952034
>>9965195
My irritation got away from me -- in addition to the panels lines, there were also the security checkpoints to enter the convention center at any point.

So to the point of changing once you got indoors, unless you only stayed in the common indoors/vendors/AA area and never left the convention center or never attended any panels, you would be standing in several outdoor lines throughout the day.
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UK here, I think it's just being flooded out by normies.

>Marvel/DC capeshit gets huge
>Netflix and the democratisation of TV means more sci-fi and supernatural dramas
>Weeb shit starts declining in popularity, cons now rebrand themselves to grab the comic book/TV crowd
>Hundreds of normies flock to the events, many of them have kids and don't cosplay
>Characters from the aforementioned TV shows look more normie as it is
>Cosplayers become the minority

When capeshit declines in popularity things will even out again.
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>>9938022
>Is cosplay becoming less popular?
Yes because why work your ass off to be accurate of a character when all the fags and thots would rather drool over a bikini version of said character?
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>>9965386
THIS
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>>9965386
Because you like making the cosplay? What a stupid question
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>>9965112
I mean pretty much, yeah.

I don't follow Reggae music....haven't ever even heard of a Reggae music festival, any upcoming concerts, or new Reggae albums coming out. So there it is.
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>>9965358
>UK here, I think it's just being flooded out by normies.
This.

Plus, your cons suck. Attended four of them in England and they are either huge and flooded with normies (MCM, Comic Con), or small and pathetic (like Alcon and LAGC)
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AX has been dangerous hot for several years
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>>9965979
Otakon has coincided with heat waves for the past several years, too.
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Srsly, mid/late 00s was the best cosplay years.
Early 10s was nice too. Since mid 10s cosplay is really less popular.
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>>9939126
>August is gonna be cooler
hahaha
August is the hottest month every year.
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>>9946460
Underrated post
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>>9971140
Why?
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>>9959434
Because people who classify themselves as hardcore fans are generally socially inept, boring to hang around and creepy.

They have these massive rose colored glasses about the early 2000s but they were creepy and ostracized then too. There were sites dedicated to making fun of creepy people at cons as early as 2002. Nobody liked them back then either.
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>>9971298
Early 00s was the cosplay quality not so good.
Mid and end 00s was the cosplay quality pretty good and many cosplayers. Since the mid 10s cosplay become less popular.
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>>9971525
Amethyst Angel’s Fun Foam armor tutorial. Clay or papier-mâché props. Halloween City wigs at worst, fashion wigs at best. Frankenpaterning. Casa satin. Yellow wigs for blonde characters.

Different times, my friend, different times.

I got out around 2007, so it’s always impressed me how far cosplay has come since then.

But yeah, don’t let anyone tell you cons in the early 2000s were a big autistic safe space for the socially retarded. Then, like now I’m sure, it was a way for nerdy people to get out of the house and socialize. By socialize I mean go out, grab food, grab drinks, loiter about, have room parties, date, fuck, have crazy drama, whatever. It was just the same as normal people except the jokes were about anime.

The handful (if that) of hot guys were the center of attention, the overweight creepy guys who would get all nerd angry when a cosplayer couldn’t answer whatever obscure trivia question they had were made fun of and generally got confined to places like the LARP rooms or hentai screenings. Even con staff often joked that those were like the creeper ghettoes.
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>>9958749
many of the beautiful girls you see at comiket do get paid to dress as a certain character. And some of them do have that background.
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>>9938068
>Cosplay is literally the most popular it’s ever been right now.
lol you must either be delusional, or you *just* discovered cosplay and are a prisoner of the moment.
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>>9976165
>many of the beautiful girls you see at comiket do get paid to dress as a certain character.
That is a called a "Booth Babe", not a cosplayer
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>>9976246
If your target audience consists of awkward virgins and testosterone raging teen boys, then you put what will get them to float over.

/cgl/ is in such a minority, no matter how vocal, they'll keep getting hookers and models because it works.
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>>9976308
I have a bookmarked website somewhere in a folder that has a compilation of Booth Babes from every E3 going back to 1999. Is it effective advertising? Yes. Is it cosplay? No.
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>>9976346
URL?

>Is it effective advertising? Yes. Is it cosplay? No.
Could you call it "coswork"?
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When I went to Otakon this year (no more Baltimore, yay) the first day I didn't see a single cosplayer from my favorite franchise. It made me feel at peace. "The world has moved on. Maybe it's time for me to move on too." Then I saw one person dressed as the main character, and I immediately dismissed all those ridiculous ideas.
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>>9976354
I'd call it what it is: promotional modeling.

Yeah when I am back home from work I will go through my bookmarks and find it for ya
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>>9976365
what favorite franchise?
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>>9938022
>Is cosplay becoming less popular?
I hope
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I wonder if this has any connection to people losing interest in cosplay. At otakon this year no one stopped me for pictures. I typically don’t get too many people asking me but this was kinda unusual.
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>>9979117
Either your series was obscure or its due to the fact that the internet has taken away a lot of the drive to "collect" cosplay photos at con.
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>>9979122
I think you’re right on both points, I haven’t really had an urge to take many pictures myself at cons either.
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>>9944987
Guess what bro? Once you leave your basement, you can't stop anyone from taking a picture of you. That's the entire basis of every security system in the country.

I'm not going to ask you if I can take a picture. I'm just going to do it because I can.

>>9944950
>circus freaks

Calm down Pepe. No one thinks of the guy dressed up as Mickey Mouse in Disneyland as a freak. You took effort to dress up. People like to look and see your efforts because it looks cool. Everything beyond that is some made up bullshit in your mind that helps you justify why no one likes you.





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