>you need 20+ dollars to get even one meal at any sit down restaurant now
>>22031979>sit down restaurant>sit downYou’re a fucking idiot, son.
>>22031982Do you do not know what a sit down restaurant is anon?
>>22031979By definition a restaurant has seating. Fucking burgertard.
>8 dollar burger and fries night>5 dollar domestic pitcherDunno how you guys get a rise lying on the net and worrying about such pitiful amounts of money when houses are 600k and trucks are 100k. The fuck you care about pocket change?
>>22031979>>22031984Sure is summer in here.
>>22031987Interesting well I guess I just mean restaurants then
>>22031987he goes to take out restaurants
>>22031979>I can't afford to eat out three times a dayThen don't?
>>22031993I just want a handful of restaurant meals a week I don't want them every day but at the prices now it's pretty much like a once a week luxury which sucks
>>22031987the definition of restaurant is just a place that makes and serves food. a food truck is a restaurant.
>>22031997way to try upselling your own kitchen, no-chair steve
That's why I only frequent stand-up restaurants. Or, as we call them colloquially: food trucks.
>>22031990Never mind. It’s only the food and cooking board after all.
>>22031979Don’t you have a McDonald’s nearby?
>>22031997>my kitchen is a restaurantRetard.
>>22031987Americans don't know that "restaurant" is a germanic construction compounding the British phrase, "rest your aunt". Restaurants started primarily as places you'd take visiting relatives when you didnt have room in your house to have a sit down meal
>>22032052if you serve food for money in your kitchen then it is a restaurant
>>22031987so you're giving him for what reason?
>>22031982>>22031987looks like you both just got owned, feel free to cope and seethe now https://www.etymonline.com/word/restaurant
>>22032066>hot dog trolleys are restaurants>vending machines are restaurantsnopart of restoring/refreshing lies in reste.g. resting your ballsack on the table or sitting down
>>22032066lol damn owned
>>22032074>>hot dog trolleys are restaurants>>vending machines are restaurantstechnically yes, a lot like how tomatoes are fruits but you still wouldn't put one in a fruit salad since it's used more akin to how vegetables are used you wouldn't CALL it a restaurant in regular conversation, but the definition allows for this>part of restoring/refreshing lies in rest...sitting downyou can lean against the wall of a takeout with no seating, that would be rest
>>22032085so when i go visit your wife, where i get food in exchange for putting my jizz in her pussy, that counts as a restaurantalso the definition you posted says "an eating-house", but you didnt mind that at all when it comes to vending machines and trolleysmake your mind up before trying to change ours, you'll look less lgbtqetc that way
>>22032066Your reading comprehension sucks.
>>22032095he’s gone to his ‘lie down’ bed, mate
>>22032092>visit your wifehow are you visiting someone that doesn't exist>eating houseIf the machine and stand was in a mall, it serves as the house, ergo making them restaurants in this example. You wouldn't even have to find seating for it to qualify as this.If they were outside, the restaurant term would not apply also>gay shit out of nowhere telling on yourself >>22032095the link I posted is better, this site says little to nothing of the etymology and can safely be disregarded
>>22032074they're restaurants but we don't call them restaurants because they have more apt narrow definitions>>22032095the one you posted isn't even the primary definition on its own page. we don't explain foundational concepts by sub-definitions.
>>22032103I believe the argument concerns the definition not the etymologyTry and keep up. .
>>22032109both go hand in hand
>>22032113They really don’t.
>>22032113Tell that to the IRS………
>>22032120>words appear from thin airthanks for outing yourself as a retard
Then don't go to restaurants. I don't.
>>22032103>If the machine and stand was in a mall, it serves as the house, ergo making them restaurants in this examplei'd argue that a vending machine, a hot dog stand, and a mall containing them both, are three separate establishmentsfurther, i'd argue that the mall is not an eating-house, and that it is instead a renting-a-place-where-you-can-do-business-house
>>22031979I don't even bother going to restaurants anymore, too many loud couples making me seethe
>>22032202The hotdog stand and the vending machine are both restaurants, sharing a building doesn't disqualify either as such. They both meet the definition without each having their own house since sharing one qualifies them both. One of the functions of a mall is an eating house, it what the owners explicitly want you to do to shop longer, that's why they allow these things to be put there.
Went to a good chinese restaurant with my girlfriend for lunch and spent $50. It was really nice. I love xiaolongbao and short ribs.
>>22032305>One of the functions of a mall is an eating housebut it is not the primary one, like with a restauranta mall (or a toilet) is a place where one can eat without being in an eating-house, sureif any of the places that sold food inside a mall were owned by that very same mall, i'd agree that a mall can be in some cases be a restaurantit seems like you're saying that if i'm in my own camping tent while ordering and receiving delivery food, i'm apparently in a restaurantit is after all the place where the food was bought, received and - although you dont include this in your definition, considering vending machines (unless you're small enough to fit inside one) - eaten
>>22032305NTA but you are retarded.>vending machines are restaurantsFood isn't prepared at a vending machine, so it doesn't even meet your own definition. If you're including anywhere that so much as sells food, prepared or otherwise, then supermarkets are restaurants. Pet stores sell pet food - are they restaurants? Poultry factories sell food to distributors - how about them?Even if you're sticking with your narrower definition of food preparation and service, you include bakeries, as well as gas stations that sell packed sandwiches made on-site.
just so we're clear:>an eating house, establishment where meals may be bought and eaten as per my previous post >>22032066>>22032351your tent does not serve the primary function of a restaurant, but once you order the food you have set the wheels in motion for it to technically come under the definition until you have finished eating, even if the term is not actually used in practice and the vending machine thing is a moot point since it was already established the vending machine has to be in an eating-house of sorts, the vending machine alone outside of this disqualifies it as a restaurant a good example of what I'm talking about here when it comes to this are dutch places like in pic rel >>22032364preparation is not part of my argument, pet food and the uncooked poultry are both not meals for humans and not yet a meal if you were to eat you bread in the bakery and eat your sandwich within the gas station itself then they would be restaurants technically speaking, and it wouldn't necessitate seating for it so in summary, sit down restaurants is a perfectly fine term to use to distinguish between takeaways and restaurants with seating, which is the comparison in practiceother things like tents fall under the definition technically under the right conditions, but are not used in practice
>>22032417so you're saying that if i sit down on the ground next to a hot dog trolley, i am at a restaurant that provides seating.. and if i fall asleep inside a café i'm actually in a hotel room
>>22032417>anything can be a restaurant if you can buy and eat food in itYour zany definition leads to a lot of wacky results and "technically" outliers, like tents, supermarkets, bakeries, and gas stations.Taking a step back for a moment, it strikes me that nobody would ever refer to or describe these establishments as restaurants.Has it occurred to you that maybe your definition just sucks?
>>22032417Also, your entire argument is defending the use of "sit down restaurant" as a term to differentiate from takeaways. Now you're choosing to define a restaurant as a place you buy AND eat meals, which excludes takeaways - the whole point being taking the food away - thereby making "sit down restaurant" redundant.
>>22031988$20 isn’t pocket change to some people, especially right now.
> Expected discourse about COL> Found autistic shitfest about the definition of restaurantThis is why i come here
>>22031979Oh its higher than that in most places. I went out for the first time in a few months the other night, got loaded fries and a pint at my local dive bar. Shit ended up setting me back $40. No wonder the economy's dying, everywhere is jacking up prices for no real reason other than "someone will pay this much... right?"
>>22032430well no you're sitting on the floor, there's isn't provided seating but doing this as long as the trolley is inside a building is technically eating in a restaurantand the cafe bit is a non-sequitur>>22032438the definition is watertight and proves the main point of a sit down restaurant being a perfectly fine distinction, technicalities which are fun to discuss just come with that>>22032455you can both buy and eat in a takeaway if you so wish, you can have your meal leant up against the walluncouth for sure, but you'd still be eating in a restaurant
>>22031979just hit up applebeesits good in the neighborhood bitch
>>22032455He’s struggling. Bless him.
1/3I spoke about this with a friend yesterday in extensive detail. We bounced back and forth of some criteria that seemed intuitive but one dimension alone didn't quite capture the entire scope of what the definition of "restaurant" entails. We unanimously agreed that McDonalds is a restaurant despite customers not receiving any wait service, it's the equivalent to a drive thru or hotdog stand service. He argued the types of food served needs to constitute a complete meal. If you are simply serving prepackaged chips or drinks, you aren't a restaurant. We also agreed that an ice cream business who has a building but no seating isn't a parlor nor a restaurant. I believe I agree on an entire meal needing to be the typical scope of what one can and is intended to order as a main criteria, so then I questioned if vending machines serving full meals counted. We both think a vending machine wouldn't count as a restaurant but for different reasons.
>>220334552/3He argued the food needed to be prepared for the customer at the location that day (with exception to ingredients that are prepared ahead of time but finished being prepared or completed to order, like a pizza parlor with sauce and dough, it's the final product that needs to be made to order). I found this agreeable, as anything less, such as selling bags of chips or premade salads does not conceptually feel like a restaurant, more LIKE (but isn't) a convenience store. What we disagreed on then was an additional criteria of the food needing to be prepared by a human. I asked if he hypothetically went to a place where the entire meal is prepared by an AI would he see that as a restaurant, and he said no. He likened that to an assembly line, however I think that assembly lines can still be with humans present and operating it so I am not sure how much I valued that criteria. I don't think it requires much flexible thinking to consider a typical restaurant kitchen a process where multiple people pass of a good in a routine line, despite dishes made custom as opposed to mass produced. I initially argued that "resting" is important to be a restaurant, and rest entails a physical relaxation through, at minimum, seating. A bench can exist next to a vending machine but that bench likely isn't owned by the machine but by the property owners who also lease the VM. I suppose this addresses the original question if a restaurant needs you to sit. Here's my problem though, you're aware of those "standing desk" concepts in offices? picture a cocktail bar with high tables, now envision there are no (high)chairs for people to sit at, it's just a table. Now envision this is inside a building, you are receiving full service (for Americans, enough to warrant a tip) and you are being cooked and served an entire meal. This sounds like a restaurant to me despite the lack of conventional seating, ergo in my eyes a restaurant.
>>220334563/3My friend then added another qualifier that the vending machine doesn't meet, and that's the nature of the establishment. He stated that a restaurant needs to constitute as an establishment large enough to be its own location. I asked if "large enough to be place vs a thing" was good enough, as we both agreed a vending machine is a large object, not a location. We didn't really resolve that question, as it gets tricky when considering food courts or places inside of places like amusement parks. There are full seating eateries inside malls that function as standalone restaurants, and a food court has seating like a McDonalds would, albeit shared. Could you consider the China Wok at the food court its own location? So I think my own final thoughts are that it at least needs to satisfy 3/4 following criteria>Needs to sell complete meals, however the customer is not obligated to order the full meals>food needs to be prepared or completed on the spot, cannot be fully prepackaged>needs to have some form of seating or tablespace for the meal>needs to be or using a location such as a building or room(s), does not need to be the only use of the room(s)
This thread is full of dunning-kruger midwits
>>220319793 for me is still 10.99 at chili's around me. That's a soft drink (free refills), chips and salsa and a burger.
>>22031982Take away establishments are restaurants too. Don't be rude to op
>>22033626I know what you're talking about. Pisses me off that they can't do a grilled chicken sandwhich for near that price, you HAVE to get the fried one on the lower tier.
Fucking hell, the pseud in this thread is absolutely insufferable and nowhere near as clever as xhe thinks. I'm disappointed in myself that I bothered to read it but I just couldn't quite believe the smugness and the way xhe smarmily believes xer own complete bullshit.
>anon goes up to a vending machine>attempts to book a table?
