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>look at modern acclaimed indie and underground comics
>it's just autobiographies made by 25 to 35 years old upper class women
huh
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>>143638576
They love to hear themselves speak, and read themselves speak, and see themselves speak.
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>>143638597
fpbp
i would tell you all to be the change you wish to see but given what happened to one underground comic artist recently i hesitate to do so
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Why doesn't anyone try poisoning the well? So the premise is the autobiographical, but you put in an actual story and cool stuff.
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>>143638576
that's what you get when one of the only "prestige" comics company, fantagraphics, is run by an old gay man.
I hate the fact that there's no actually well drawn/cool looking action comics in America.
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>>143638576
>listening to "reviewers acclaim"
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You don't know what upper class is.
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>>143638576
It's always autobiographical shit with indie comics
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>>143638597
This.
Female narcissism is at the highest levels we've ever seen, in no small part due to simps and goons.
>Inb4 INCEL CHUD!!!
Simps are so pathetic. Good women still exist, but you're far to busy propping up the Jezebels.
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Choose your entitled firstoid
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>>143639939
Publishing has circled around to be discriminatory. I took my novel to a small publisher and they told me verbatim.
>if you weren't a white male we'd love to publish it but as is there just isn't a need for this on the market
I wish I was joking.
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why the fuck would I want to know about the white male experience? I'm already living it.
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>>143639939
This is the future of video games, huh
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>>143640037
The problem is that they're losing out on the market of white guys who aren't in the Jew-WASP media complex who want something that speaks to them. For all they want equity, they refuse to do anything about the majority that has been historically excluded as well. Moreover, the minorities they get come from privileged backgrounds and don't really understand normal people better than those old white males they criticized. What the hell does a negress from Montreal understand about diversity?
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>>143640037
Half of all traditionally published books sell less than 200 copies, most sell less than 500 copies. Tell them to go fuck themselves and put it out yourself. Better yet shit out a trashy romance every month and get rich as fuck.
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>>143638576
Indie/underground comics have always been full of autobio crap. This isn't some new development.
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There is some good stuff here and there but yeah no don't let the indie shills tell you otherwise most of it is just shit without the cape, underground comix rip off auto bio slop.
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>>143638777
Wtf who died this time?
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>>143640254
At this point, who didn't?
But I think he's talking about the one who killed himself recently.
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>>143640108
>WASP
Jews hate WASPs more than anything in the world.
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>>143638597
>They love to hear themselves speak, and read themselves speak, and see themselves speak.
so do you people.
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>>143640785
Who?
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>>143640018
I was honestly surprised at how basic Center of the Earth was. I like Thorogood's art, but the story felt very "oh yeah, you were 24 when you wrote this."
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>>143642938
Ed Piskor
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>>143638831
>poison the well with quality
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>>143638927
What? Fantagraphics still has taste. They wouldn't push out bland autobiographical nothingness.
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>>143638576
To be fair some of the first Underground comics were autobiographical and since those were the precursor to modern indie comics it kinda fits.
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>>143642025
Oh no, the average 4chan user hates themselves too much for that to be true
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>>143638927
You’re thinking more about Drawn and Quarterly than Fantagraphics. DnQ were the ones who really pushed autobiographical indie comics and as a result the whole industry and scene are saturated with them.
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>>143638576
That’s only a problem with American comics. Stick to euro underground for variety and quality.
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>>143638576
JFC I remember reading some random graphic novel about this French woman’s autobiography comic about being an artist aka crazy whore. Her father to the surprise of no one was a rich ‘check’ French ‘check’ Jewish ‘check’ asshole ‘check’ who apparently abused her but she actually glosses over that detail in fact she writes love letters about him even though she admits he’s a monster but hey he was a good fuck so why not? No most of the graphic novel is explaining the various art projects she does while basically fucking any man woman animal in sight and she typically makes both art and sex as boring as possible. Also she can never just take a hint and when people in multiple countries tell you how fucking crazy you are they must be wrong. Oh and this won several awards by the way.
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>>143643004
Even if those people were regular nobodies like Harvey Pekar in American Splendor, they were fascinating individuals with something to say.

Although I recently read an issue where he's filing taxes and it's boring as fuck.
...fuck. Maybe you're right.
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>>143643112
The French are kinda fucked like that.
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>>143638576
That shit is the fucking worst.
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>>143638576
Which ones?
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>>143638576
What kind of stories did you even want?
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>>143638576
Fuck off and keep reading capeshit
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>>143638597
>translation: why can’t they be amount men?!
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>>143640037
Why do you think as a white male you would sell better than a sea of other white men who already established names?
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>>143638576
Gosh, imagine someone like Harbey Pekar doing that!

Ridiculous!
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>>143640037
>Going to a publisher
lmao it's 2024, they pander entirely to the only people dumb enough to buy physical media still.
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>>143638576
Yes the "great indie comics" indiefags have been trying to push for the last 20 years are pretentious nonsense about some real world event (they may or may not be funny animals) or pretentious autobiographies about the unintersting lives of extremely boring people told in a dull, self-pitying, navel gazing style.
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>>143645118
The ones about men are also bad. The worst thing Harvey Pekar did was make people think anyone wanted to hear about the trivialities of their boring lives.
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>>143645206
>Being this filtered by American Splendour

ISHYGDDT
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>>143645270
Yeah, one good work of art vs the hundreds of self indulgent slop that was inspired by it
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>>143645270
American Splendor works because Pekar at least has enough personality to usually make his stuff interesting. The problem is boring self-absorbed people telling boring self-absorbed stories about their boring self-absorbed lives that it inspired.
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>>143640037
you should have said you were gay
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>>143638576
Once upon a time i was in jail- now, when you're in the joint for any amount of time, the hardest thing to do is comfortably pass it. of all the absolute detritus i read, one of the things I always remember is the autobiography of a lesbian cab driver in 70's new york.
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>>143643112
sounds French what the fuck did you expect?
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>>143645677
I will always say the best thing to come out of france was julia child
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>>143645674
Now see that could actually be interesting because lesbian cab driver during peak shithole NYC is unique.
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Letting normalfags use the internet was a mistake
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Go read The Crimson Cage - it's Macbeth set during 70s pro wrestling. Then stop being a whiny bitch who thinks a subgenre of comics is bad because women exist
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>>143645172
>2024
>not buying physical media
the last few years have really killed the appeal of digital only when some corpo having a mental breakdown can just delete your purchase because they got mad about something on social media
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>>143645118
wtf is an amount man?
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>>143640037
>Self-publish under a female name
>Sell more, THEN reveal you're a man
The meta has reversed
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>>143638576
You're forgetting gay romance and simplified dull retellings of historical events, anon. Those are big too. It seems like you can only get a single graphic novel published if it's "important" somehow. And it's ways single graphic novels too. Not every story can be contained well in one volume.
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are the lives of women more interesting than men?

or are the readers just coomers?
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>>143638576
False.
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>>143645126
You're missing the point, these publishing houses have been infested with these annoying white progressive women who will instantly publish anyone if they're gay black trans folx regardless of how shit the book is so long as its 'passable' / following basic market trends, which mostly means appealing to tik tok retards right now
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>>143638576
I remember the French one where all the men are represented as crocodiles and it's about catcalling.
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>>143638576
What's funny is that this isn't true and that it's a deflection from the real problem, which is capeslop. Autobioslop is harmless compared to that.
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>>143645674
Ok that does sound cool though
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>>143638597
This, but men do it too. I mean a lot.
So if you have any comic made by the over privileged, then yeah. Dobson for one.
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>>143648729
Maybe it’s because that’s what’s selling? Sorry but you aren’t interesting just because you’re a white male anymore.
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>>143640037
Remember that episode of South Park, towely wrote a book an pretended he wasn't a towel? Yeah that.
But the thing is women are the prime market in books.



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