>>145541663wait, 8 seasons?
>"lost media"As if people dont have it pirated already
>>145541663That's not how lost media works you fucking idiotIt's on plenty of piracy sites
>>145541663>For literal decades WEP has been trying to make Voltron relevant again>Movie in development hell>Third Dimension and Force cancelled within a season, Dracotron's toys not even coming out and Force's line being scrapped entirely>Devil's Due comics were actually pretty decent but died early>Dynamite comic is one of the most incomprehensible edgefest messes known to man with its sole saving grace being Alex Ross covers>Make a Voltron series that develops a large enough fanbase to silence any complaining boomers>The show fucks up its last remaining seasons to the point where everyone just left and the show ends on a whimper>The Lion Forge comics based on this new universe are somehow equally as lame as the show>Universal and DreamWorks let the license expire for a movie>WEP is now trying to find a new partner to get the project off the ground (again)>Social Media and Website got rebranded and only promote the 80's show and ignoring the Dreamworks show, since Comcast lose the license>Voltron is back to square one
And nothing of value was lost.
>>145541663wasn't this developed specially for Netflix? I guess no one watches it anymore and is just taking up space?
>>145541670Yeah, 7 to 13 episodes in each eight seasons.
>>145541779The specific contract Netflix and DreamWorks has is that Netflix gets to have the show for I think 6 years after it ends, then they take it back.Quite a few of the Dreamworks shows have already evaporated off of Netflix at this point.They aren't lost media though, you can buy seasons online on itunes and I think amazon?
>>145541703I don't know that WEP is thinking. The 80's Voltron fandom is like a few hundred people at this pont, if that. Anyone buying the figures knows it was just a dub and there's more Japanese superrobot anime out there.
>>145541663Not the real Voltron.
>>145542288They have nothing else.
>>145541663>Zoomers don't know what lost media means
>>145541663Good riddance, rest in piss. Seriously, the show had such good potential, but the creators started listening to FAGGOTS and QUEERS and it turned to shit.
>>145542532>If it’s not available on Netflix or on the first page of YouTube results it’s lost media
>>145541703>Dynamite comic is one of the most incomprehensible edgefest messes known to man with its sole saving grace being Alex Ross coversHonestly this could be said about any Comic from Dynamite in the last 5 years.
>>145542546Did they though? They just sort of pissed them off by trying to appease to them poorly.Like the gay lovers that are either dead or only show up in the where are they now ending.
>>145542546>FAGGOTS and QUEERSso YOU and /co/ then
>>145542521I don't know if Robotech or Voltron is sadder at this point. Robotech is floundering with like no new media except a 20 year old DTV movie and some comics, but Voltron keeps starting from zero. Robotech by all means should be dead-dead, but Voltron somehow seems more pathetic because, given them outright owning the anime, having actual new shows, and a fanbase under 40, it could be doing better. But it won't.
>>145542288>dub Not even. They just user the footage from Golion and reworked the plot. It's why you have so many inconsistencies and weirdness
>>145542588Debatetable. Pic is rumored to have been endgame but even as early as s1&2 fujos were pissing themselves at the prospect of Keith with a girl
>>145542945And superfluous Dairugger footage.>Uh oh, Zarkon is attacking that princess again.>Should we do something?>Nah, lets just sit around this meeting room and talk about it.
>>145541703>Make a Voltron series that develops a large enough fanbase to silence any complaining boomersThe problem with that is the toxicity of an audience that consists heavily of fujos. When their entire interest in a show consists of their made up porn, they're not a genuine fanbase. Almost all of them have moved on. They were never buying any robot merch. When there's another Voltron thing, expect those that remember their prior fandom to seethe if there aren't enough black/browns and gays in the cast.
They had kino....and they squandered it. Broken power scaling, underdeveloped universe, non existant character arcs, bullshit time skips, ignoring basic voltron storylines, not using the robot, non existent character relationships.... and that ending. Whew. Way to shit the bed
>>145543289>almost all of them moved onKlancers are alive and as annoying as ever
>>145541663its still not as sad as the other voltron show that everyone forgot about
>>145541663What happens? They threw out the writers of first 3 seasons put in new inexperienced writers?
>>145543664There are two Voltron shows that are completely forgotten, so that means you've forgotten about one, too.
GUYS HERE JESUS CHRISThttps://www.wcostream.tv/anime/voltron-legendary-defender
>>145543308Season 4 was it? I don't know what happened, it was like, little sibling coming into your room while you are playing a game and says "my said it's my turn now" and doesn't make their own save file, plays yours and ruins everything you were setting up.
>>145541663>lost mediaNo it won't.>>145541726I'll defend the first two seasons.
>>145543795What, did they somehow neglect the giant robot THAT THE SHOW IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT less in those two?
>>145543774>>145543664>speed racer released a collection of all their shows, even the shitty american made one>voltron is just the original release and nothing elseits so weird, if this is your big series why not release all the different versions
I never got around to watching the final season.I just heard how bad it was and couldn't bring myself to finish it and be sad at the shit ending.Better it live on in my mind unfinished but full of potential than die in disappointment.
>>145543823I think 80's kids are entering a deathroll where they want all their properties to forever be the version they grew up with and die with them.
>>145543774Is there something in particularly cursed about this brand?
>>145541703Sell it back to Japan.
>>145544028Like they care. GoLion was a major flop back then.
>>145543850Ditto, all I knew was they reneg the premise of the red pilot becoming leader and wanted blue pilot to be love interest to the princess and i was like the fuck is this!? This isn't even Voltron anymore.
>>145543996It was never meant to last.Golion told a story and ended. It wasn't meant to be the basis to countless reboots and extended universes. Enjoy the show? Cool. watch another Giant Super Robot show. WEP exposed the US to the first major combining robot to reach US shores, and that's the only real legacy it has. >>145544028They wouldn't want it back.
>>145543791Definitely s4 with keith leaving but I'd argue s3 was rocky (the scene where they pretend to mourn Shiro stands out). Even s1&2 had their issues but they were leagues more cohesive than the latter seasons. They blamed everything on having to have Shiro come back when there was a million better ways to deal with such a mandate.
>>145543744More that they had 3 season worth of plot written out and then winged the rest of the show.
>>145543858Aren't they old as fuck though? They'd have grandkids at this point.
>>145544129It seemed like they fired the original writing staff and replaced it with nepo babies.
Transformers already exists, so Voltron's just seen as lame and redundant.
>>145543823Anon, I don't think you know how much Speed Racer slop has been made over the years. Since Tatsunoko reclaimed global rights, I suspect the Fred Wolf, the flash web-series, the Nicktoons series and that Indian DTV will never be seen officially again.
>>145543850I've read summaries and saw bits and pieces. It's a mess. Because magic and sadness is the answer. "Sorry we killed the princess but here's Shiro gay wedding". It's almost funny inadvertently
>>145544092>WEP exposed the US to the first major combining robot to reach US shores, and that's the only real legacy it has.Technically there was Shogun Warriors
>>145544049>>145544092They're making bank on selling expensive collector mech figures using both names. Japan could revive it easily.
>>145544102Man, it was this series where you saw the rise of the undeserving hires got into the writers room. The activists of the room started controlling things. Problem with writers who are activists in today's world, they can never admit they are wrong or incorrect.
>>145541703Don't forget the Cloverfield mondegreen
What's wild about this show is how wildly it swings between themes: friendship is the answer, we are stronger together etc and then it's all "sacrifice one for the many""sacrifice is the true expression of love"
>>145544226You're being fucking retarded.
>>145543664Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
>>145544226It's my understanding that the individual writers didn't have much to work with. The execs had a very loose Bible and apparently kept some stuff to themselves. The final season is almost entirely just the showrunners.
I think this show just never managed to truly materialize as a good show. Whole bunch of missteps through the whole thing, nobody's character was that standout except Pidge, they made their main villain's motivations really boring and then killed him off, and then Season 6 just stopped trying and rocketed itself towards a really stupid result.
>>145544302Why aren't you blaming diversity hires and representation agendas for bad writing
>>145544181Yeah that's why I stipulated "major". SW was popular but not that big, plus a lack of toys that could combine, and no wide anime releases. Voltron was big in syndication.>>145544215We're very likely entering the last 10 years you can sell a lot of that stuff. A lot of older collectors are basically wrapping up collecting due to lack of space.I own the Blitzway Voltron KO, and all the forums I go to have the older guys talking about how they're passing on new releases because they don't have the space or energy to keep upgrading. >>145544144They're not necessarily THAT old, but they're getting up there. Many would have grown up kids and a few would have grandkids.Thing is, none of them are really passing that fandom down to a younger generation. Transformers survived because it adapted. All these other 80's properties do not and their fans have disdain for the times they do have newer versions. I get why, Netflix LD dropped the ball, but when a fandom doesn't get new fans it's on a death spiral.
>>145544348And, of course, barely any Voltron. The number of Robeasts in this show was in the single digits. Thats fucking inexcusable.
WHY THE FUCK WON'T SOMEBODY FUCKING BAN BOCONOBODY WANTS TO TALK TO YOU. NOBODY WANTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU. FUCK OFF!!!
Speaking of toys, Playmates is reissuing the classic Voltron from the LD toyline later this year.
>>145544365because you can check the actual credits and see the same writers from the first season are largely the same as the final.
>>145543289>They were never buying any robot merchwestern companies are shit at robot merch anyway. The Voltron Playmates did was awful and poorly engineered.Japanese companies know how to merchandise mecha show- mecha toys for the boys and otakus, pilot statues and pins, keychains, shirts, etc. for character fans. Eva is merchandised like crazy yet Rei and Asuka still have more merch than even all the eva-01 toys and model kits.
>>145544365The only non exec writers I remember are Tim Hendrick and Iverson. I assume theyre white guys
>>145544348>PidgeShe doesn't even have an arc. She goes looking for her family and finds them and ultimately prefers them to the team. She never grows in any way
Shiro died at the end of S1
I'll miss the early seasons.
>>145544406The LD might have done better had they not been so hideous
>>145544580It was a better time. You thought "They can still turn this around, theyre just taking the scenic route"
>>145541663for a second i thought this shit was coming back as a reboot. phew.
>>145541663>will become lost media>did Lotor dirtygood
>>145541670Well, yes and no. Officially it has eight seasons because Nutfux decided that any arbitrary batches of episodes they release counts as seasons. However, it is more likely the show had three production seasons.
>>145545119We had some good times.But then they made consistently awful decisions later.
>wtf i wont be able to watch retarded fag shit anymore?!?!?!?Watching, or pretending to care about Voltron doesn't make up for your lack of personality.
Is this one of those "surf dracula" shows where the show has next to nothing to do with robots?
>>145545211>sexiest version of Lotor dies>only version of keith thats half galra>they never talk
>>145541703>Third Dimension and Force cancelled within a seasonI wonder how Force would have continued anyway given that all of the villains were killed in the last two episodes.
>>145544479Must be why the Dinotrux toyline also fell through but Spirit and Gabby’s Dollhouse toys are selling so well they get promoted to theatrical movies
>>145545341
>>145544239Wut
>>145541663And nothing of value was lost.
>>145541663Torrent and bluerays?
>>145546458>torrent The pirate bay seems to be missing a lot and doesn't have all the season packs.As far as I can tell the WEP website has seasons 3-6 as a set but not the rest
>>145541663>8 seasons How did this shit go on for so long?
>>145546652I downloaded the whole show early this year in 1080p
>>145546865because half those seasons were 7 episodes and the rest were 13.
>>145545341>sven who >oc Shiro, make him gay>romelle isn't even a princess> is a throw away character >kill off bandor even though he lives in dotu >not even include avok How far can you deviate from the source material before its no longer a reboot?
>>145541663>lost mediaYou don't know what that term means
>>145542588Kinda? It started with them behaving sanely, then the whole blackmail shit happened which is the real reason the seasons are wonkily split up, because they tried really hard to front about it to minimize damage, and then the nowadays surprisingly common issue from that rough era occurred where afterwards, they tried to just appease the loudest fans in a microcosm on twitter down to the same shit that happened with RWBY occurring where random faggotry VAs made up on the spot for twitter likes was dictating canon to avoid another freak out.There were other huge fucking problems, like the writers fucking hating having them form Voltron or using the lions as anything other than fast travel/generic star fighters, and a form of "Iconic moment/character" myopia where they started trying to get these big important moments or character arcs similar to ones from other famous shows without understanding that you need way more bread and butter motw/problem of the day plots to support those [They really wanted Lotor to be Azula 2.0 but did none of the work for it, for example.] but pandering obsessively to fujos and other assorted tumblr faggotry was definitely the gas making this clusterfuck engine of bad decisions go.
>>145543819NTA but /m/ here, the first two season were legitimately good. not perfect, sure, but they have a decent enough character writing and a fair amount of mecha action, could have more, but *some* slack is fair early on with some of the usual beginning plot arcs [figuring out how to work as a team, form voltron, etc] and how that kind of thing can be hard for newer showrunners and studios who haven't done it before. You get a bit of rope so long as you're putting effort in and the first two seasons mostly have that.It's the Klance debacle and Season 3 where everything goes to unsalvageable shit. 3 can get a little forgiveness because hey, production problems due to insane faggot fanbase, starting up an entirely new arc as well, but 4 was where the show was officially dead.
Pidge and her brother were best characters
>>145544144Being fair I know a LOT of late Millennials and early zoomers, usually poorer white ones, who grew up on a diet in their formative years of 80s after shocks and nostalgia due to reruns and old tapes and collections their parents/grandparents had and so on.Combined with the economic turmoil and those guys have a strong nostalgia for a time period they weren't alive to see because it seems so much more idyllic. Kids wandering around freely, going to arcades and malls, a new arnold or stalllone movie every week and lots of action cartoons with cool toys and the only bad guys in the world seemed to be some commie bastards who they knew were doomed to lose to the power of American exceptionalism. Compared to the late 90s/early 00s and onward and to them it seems like a better time.
>>145549607She was clearly LMs self insert
Pour one out
>>145541663>>145541678I've seen a few shows referenced as "lost media by legal means."
>>145550696
>>145542588trying to appease people with "woohoo gay rep!!" then half-assing it as much as possible is probably the stupidest thing they could've done. You just end up pissing off everyone
>>145550743Because people are retarded.If you can buy a show, it's not lost. Yes, it sucks having to buy a show that you could once stream for a fraction of the cost, but it's preserved.
>>145541663I can just watch Golion and Dairugger subbed.
>>145542521Well, there's also Saber Rider and Denver the Last Dinosaur if they're super desperate.
>>145541663You do not know what words mean. Something that released online and is archived on thousands of hard drives is not LOST. Lost media is shows that were made 60 years that no longer exist because the warehouse they were in caught fire.
Can someone rec me a good anime/manga?
>>145551446Boku no Pico
>>145541703I started the first season (can't remember if I finished it or not but I didn't watch past that). It seemed a bit boring. And then everything I heard from the fandom after that was gay shipping or complaining about how the show was handling gay shipping. Was sort of glad I didn't keep up with the show then. Anime has better mecha shows. Hell even if I wanted gay shipping which I don't anime also handles that stuff better.
>>145546889Toss up a mega!
>>145541703There was some animesque pre-Force cartoon called "Voltron Interactive" that got canned past its demo reel too, that they'd been trying to find investors for. It looked like it was based off Devil's Due comics.
>>145543289You also had fujos on the staff like the Klancer Barlee, and that weird clout-chasing intern Aralcle who bullshitted people that JDS was pro-Sheith and then later backpedaled to help Sean Z. write smear articles about the staff.
>>145550979You can’t legally buy certain shows anymore
>>145542998
>>145544302Shiro was originally going to be 19 until his character design came back so buff they figured they'd make him be an adult, hence the whole "five teenagers" bit in summaries.Could've avoided a lot of shipwar BS, but the Sheith antis and delusional Sheithers still would've found some way.
>>145552395Ok? But this isn't a case of that.Like I said, if you can legally buy a show, it's not lost.
>>145542998There was a point LM and JDS seriously thought they could get away with killing Hunk and putting her on the team too, and it was shot down not so much for being a shitty idea and wasting Hunk but that "The team would have too many ladies".
>>145552513To add onto that, if you can easily pirate a show that's not on physical media/pvod, it's also not "lost"
>>145541663How does Netflix lose a Netflix original?
>>145552334Are you talking about the motion comics?
>>145541703All the other Voltron reboots have been pretty terrible. That late 90s one, the 2004ish one with the black lions that looked like shit, that 2009ish one from Nicktoons where any lion could be the center torso lion...
>>145552711Nope, there was some 2005 animated demo reel even before that, but it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet.http://web.archive.org/web/20070103205341/http://www.voltron.com/series.htmlThis is a trace left behind of its existence.
>>145552497The five teenagers includes Allura. Shiro was originally meant to be disposable--hence why they gave him a terminal illness. He always had to be older for the the set up they chose. Your story should precede character design so I doubt they changed Shiro to a mentor character because they liked a design so much
>>145552809Oh wait here we gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9pTzoV3mlk
>>145552812That was the excuse they gave from what I remember, but it wouldn't be surprising if they wanted to waste him in any sense.
>>145552711>>145552809https://voltronfandomhag.tumblr.com/post/173119004288/voltron-interactive-the-voltron-that-never-wasMore info, albeit from Scumblr. They dug up some other early concept art pre-Force too.
>>145552569The whole "kill hunk" thing is how you know they were off their rockers. Not to mention the "we were gonna have allura come back as a baby an have lance raise her" thing. They wasted so much time on OCs while the main cast barely felt like friends
>>145552925Yeah, LM claimed that ending idea was based off Sailor Moon but even Sailor Moon didn't have Saturn saddled with a love interest who'd have to change her diapers. Just lesbian teen mom figures.The "Lion Force all sacrifice themselves into a wormhole and set up a sequel bait where the Vehicle team have to save them" ending would've been better for a sense of hope, but I guess at that point they knew there was no chance of a sequel and had to sink the ship and close off any loose ends they thought.
>>145552826Huh! Interesting. Definitely pulling from DDP with the robot mice. Too bad it's still ugly.
>>145551707Dont use mega, i had gotten it on piratebay!
>>145552971They could have easily just sacrificed the lions & voltron and lived happily ever after but they wanted to be "serious writers" by killing off the genocide survivor who'd been depressed all the last two seasons
the only good thing out of this show was sheith
>>145553900The second worst thing to come out of this show. First being klance
>>145553118Thanks! It's still up. Grabbing it for the archive
>>145553900*Plance
>>145552687By not wanting to pay WEP and Dreamworks more money to keep it on there.
>>145554689
>>145552687By not actually owning the show. DreamWorks does. Netflix just paid to have it made in exchange for XYZ years of exclusivity. A bunch of "Netflix Original" shit has been winding up on other platforms recently. I know the Kevin Smith He-Man slop is on Hoopla.
>>145554808>Hoopla
>>145542998>Pic is rumored to have been endgameNo I'm not mad at all with what we got...
>>145541663Eh I’m I diffrent about this, the show started good but got dumb but even in the dumb there was fun episodes like the game show.
>>145552687Same way they lost the Marvel Netflix shows. Same way they lost a bunch of crap. Netflix isn't a studio. Except for shit they FULLY buy outright, probably junk like Millarworld garbage, they don't own most of the nonsense on their servers. >>145554808Also DW can and will probably sell the episodes themselves to Apple and Amazon as season or one off rentals/'to own' or they will sell all eight seasons to Tubi or Roku or similar for a year or two. So OP >>145541663>become lost mediais being an unnecessarily melodramatic little bitch for no actual good reason given that this mongoloid mouth breather picture puzzle platform is a cesspool of pirates.
>>145541663Isn't this just a yaoi show wearing Voltron skin?
>>145544348>nobody's character was that standout except PidgeYeah I was about to say this. I watched the first 2 seasons, I think, and didn't retain any of it. Extremely generic and boring show. But I liked Pidge.
>>145553277Yeah, they had to make it so Honerva couldn't sacrifice herself alone so she needed another body to join her. Contrived and unfortunate.
I enjoyed Netflix's Voltron. Was it a perfect show? No, but it was probably the best western action cartoon we had gotten in a while, and it ain't like we've gotten a lot of them since. I ended up buying the first season DVD when it came out (Remember when Netflix used to do that shit?). Crazy they never took advantage of making any merchandise, but I guess that's just par for the course retardation of Western Studios/Producers.
>>145552713>the 2004ish one with the black lionsAnon there was no early 2000s reboot that came out
>>145556360Their delusion must be from the universe where Voltron Interactive actually happened and didn't get retooled into Force.
>>145555259Only yaoi for Shiro and his dead boyfriend and non-entity ending credits hubby.Plenty yaoi delusions for Klancers and Sheithers, that the crew were too chicken to shut down and wanted to be like "everyone is valid" (while those like Barlee fanned the flames) and caused so much resentment.
>>145547515Depends on execution. If it’s done well and carries the spirit it’s fine. If it doesn’t well that’s how you get Legendary Defenders.>>145542998Honestly with how they fumbled the ball on so many other things this would have been just as boring as we got. I can’t believe I’m thankful for all the daddy issues Keith has that he dumps at Shiro’s feet ended up looking really gay. Meanwhile they deal with his mommy issues offscreen and Keith monologues that he fixed all his issues over in a time-whimey zone that made him two years older.
>>145553960That was some of the best shit though because they clearly wanted Shiro to be his dad figure but they fumbled the ball so hard some scenes make it look like Keith is eyefucking Shiros pecs.
>>145555035It would have been pretty bad based on how they handled her as one of Lotors henchmen in the show as is.They don’t even bat an eye when he killed the Scaly Galra while he doesn’t tell them jack shit
>>145542384
>>145542288And 80s Voltron was Really Fucking Bad.
>>145541663>all the people still crying about this show have tranny flags and pronouns in their bioHmm...
>>145557155They also insist Adam wasn't just gay, but a black Muslim man to make sure LM and JDS committed the biggest hate crime in the universe.
>>145557193Black Muslim? I mean he’s dark skinned but that could be any ethnicity.
>>145545862Keitor had potential in any sense, not just the fujoshi copium one. One that treated Lotor as her flavor of the month that pushed for that had a massive ree-fest, while the charlatans of Lotura like Team Purple Lion continued to indulge their own delusions of "This is how our ship can still win if we guilt WEP and Dreamworks hard enough into remaking and releasing the TRUE season 8".
>>145553960>>145556342Based and correct posts. Anyway, you should all know to pirate shit you actually like. Streaming is gay nigger AIDs.
>>145557218Yeah and with it being DA FUTURE, he could be a mix of any darker ethnicity. He's unfortunately just a prop meant to be a brown Goose to Shiro's Maverick, but gay of course.
>>145557193>but a black Muslim manI missed that one. Holy shit, they're so deranged. And they'll never see that they were the problem with the fandom and with fandoms in general.
>>145557256To be fair people were butthurt that they’d revealed him and been acting like he’d be important at all just to fridge him for being with Shiro in the past.Those who can’t let go of the show would just remain salty and let their imaginations run wild as a result.
>>145557262Yep that was one of the big fanon pushes around the time after Adam died, or that they trotted out when Allura went dead space goddess."You're really surprised that VLD ended like shit when they murdered a queer black Muslim man on screen?!"
>>145557277Netflix also made some silly banner making it look like there'd be a love triangle between him, Shiro, and Keith. That was the true queerbait marketing there.
>>145557278LGBTQIAP+ rights were a mistake
>>145557286Honestly it was noticeable to me that some shipped it. Even Keaton teased shit like that till the Klance fans foaming at the mouth over their fucking ship and so he washed his hands entirely.
>>145557292>there will never be the "fixed" season 8 of fans' dreams where Lotor is a Purple Lion Paladin, nor where Adam shouts ALLAHU AKBAR in his final moments
>>145557345They wouldn't be based enough to have Adam (PBUH) Allahu Akbar and die. They'd require him to stick around, a complete blank slate, to be Shiro's buttboy, so Klance can wind up together. Muh representation.
>>145557369The final wedding sequence is a rotoscope of Keith and Lance making out, with Shiro pushed into Keith's former spot where you can barely see him but hey, Adam's holding his hand so you get double the gay.
>>145557345Honestly Lotor being a villain was so obvious I’m shocked it’s meant to be seen as a surprise when he, you know, immediately killed a henchman for being his hag moms unknowing spy. Instead of just knocking her out and getting his moms cat away from her.
>>145557386And Lotor winding up with Allura. She's very forgiving to that whole using her previously thought extinct people as batteries thing.
>>145557386I’d rather it was Lance and Allura getting married and Sheith making out in the background.
>an artist I followed during the shows run was making a zine in 2019 after the show ended>it still hasn't happenedI wonder how many other scammers did this during the shows time.
>>145557415According to the Lotura conspirators, it's all that cockblocking white hag Romelle's fault for blaming a poor abuse victim for murder and Dreamworks is hiding the truth. So Allura forgives Lotor for believing some pesky white woman over him and joins in on the wedding for her to be his brown tradwife while he smirks that everything's going as he keikaku'd (or shall we say, kekaku'd)
>>145557417It's a wedding of musical chairs and make-outs, where everybody gets a little something. Slav even gets with the Chip robot.
>>145557436How much money did they take for it?I can remember some Lotorwaifu that had people donate money to her for commissions, but she never delivered them and avoided inquiries about the art at all costs.
>>145557400Never under estimate the effect a pretty boy can have on the low IQ viewer. But yes, it was very painfully obvious he was a villain from the start.>>145557437>white woman ruins the life of a stronk POC alien maleDare I say, based?
>>145557444The robot complains he needs to slow down. Make out protocols haven’t been installed yet:
>>145557457I want to say it was around 300 bucks or so, at least that's what she posted when she was actually still trying to print the thing, so possibly more. She's basically given up now claiming it's stressful, but still steadily takes commissions.That sounds about right for a Lotorwaifu.
>>145557479Damn, f for all those who had hope.
>>145549782>Being fair I know a LOT of late Millennials and early zoomers, usually poorer white ones, who grew up on a diet in their formative years of 80s after shocks and nostalgia due to reruns and old tapes and collections their parents/grandparents had and so onVideo Rental stores too. Good grades and no throwing hands on the way home from school meant I could rent one cartoon video from the Ms. Video the next town over that month. It was a Mr. Video with am S taped over the the R. After the lady who ran it got married, she moved it a bit to the right.
>>145557488I was one of them, for a while. But seriously, these dumb fake artists shouldn't take on projects if they can't hack it. What I don't get is the people who I know also supported it will still use this artist for commissions sometimes. If you can't even put out a fucking zine, you don't deserve money period, in my opinion.
>>145552437I haven't even watched Voltron since season... 2? Where Shiro disappears into the Speed Force after they beat the emperor dude. But I distinctly remember immediately knowing the enemy pilot Keith found was a woman who'd probably get shipped with him.And you're telling me they not only confirm that obvious set up but then just didn't go through with it in the end? The show deserves all the shitposting it gets.
>>145557611To be fair they had a bunch of other stupid ideas and her handling as Lotors henchman was pretty terrible as well. Pretty much any relationship she’d had with Keith knowing this suggests it wouldn’t have been all that good either.So instead they replaced it with the equally banal mommy Keith so he can get over his mommy issues. Daddy issues must stay.
>>145557640A shame, but I guess that jives with what I heard in general about Voltron trying to hard to make some fans happy and ultimately making no one happy.
>>145557712All the more reason why creators should rarely, if ever, listen to their fans. Most of the time trying to appease fans turns something to shit.
>>145554808Hwat the fuck is a…hoopla?
>>145556956Why would they? The other two are implied to outright enjoy violence and Lotor is a villain. Axca was the only not shown to enjoy it and she spares Keith in the Weblum
>>145555035You're not not mad that they altered their storyline to not upset slash shippers?
>>145557277I can't decide if the pushback would have been better or worse had the flashback with Adam been in season 2 rather than season 7. I don't care about Adam because he's no one but it's still kind of a shitty move with regards to Shiro's story.
>>145557400This scene was so goddamn weird because they never say exactly what happened. Lotor kills Narti but doesnt say anything to the generals to justify it and It's ambiguous if Narti actually betrayed them or was just used.
>>145557417>Allura and LanceTruly out of their minds
>>145559350Supposedly they only bothered to kill Adam to tie up his story, after they got the okay to include the flashback in season 7 "just as friends". JDS then said they got the okay last-minute for them to be gay, and figured ooh fans would love the representation and that would outweigh Adam's death.Whoops. Wrong as hell.The impact of his statement attempting to sympathize with fans and explain why Adam had to die was sure felt when Aaron Ehasz had to disclaim about the dead queens in Dragon Prince that got spoiled, and a bunch of fans and She-Ra staff thanked him for "being so mature" about it while shading everybody's enemy to the gays JDS.
>>145559441They could've appeased the tumbeasts by having Allura falling for Lance's sister instead, out of left field be damned.
>memories of a salty fanart claiming to be protesting general VLD gay rights and "not about ships">had Klance holding the sign claiming to not be about ships>was by a Klancer
>>145559518>to tie up his storyWhy? He was an oc with two seconds screen time. There was no story to tie up. It seems more like they were salty about not being allowed to kill Shiro. Or killing Hunk. Maybe they just wanted to kill?
>>145559537They should have gone the simple route and destroyed all the ships in one fatal blow
>>145559575Probably. Didn't see use doing anything else with him, so time for more bodies to hit the floor.
There was just way better mecha anime coming out when Voltron was airing. Like Fafner did yaoibait mecha better than Voltron did.I have no aversion to mecha shows that are light on the mecha action, but they go the whole show without using most of the lead mecha's most famous attacks. No Hundred Ton Punch is a fucking crime. Seriously, the episode in the OG show where it debuted was so intense. More people should watch Golion and Dairugger. Way cooler than you'd expect.
>>145543664Do you have any idea how many Voltron shows you’re describing right now? You’re gonna need to be more specific.
>>145544092>It wasn’t meant to be the basis to countless reboots and extended universesIt worked for Mazinger.
>>145559226I was being sarcastic. I am very much mad
>>145560194Mazinger is a lot more iconic in Japan and has that weird Go Nagai energy. Plus each reboot/sequel to Mazinger is fun and entertaining.
>>145549383What the fuck happened? I mean it, I managed to get into the first season but things got a little busy so I couldn't keep up. Last I remember hearing was some fan who got into a studio tour or something getting their hands on production materials and tried to get the studio to do something they wanted? For a yaoi ship to happen or what? Was it that stupid?
>>145560194>>145560314Simply put, Mazinger sequels happen because they wanted them to happen. No one was pushing for a GoLion continuation in Japan.One big issue with Japanese media that gets big in the US is that it's made to constantly cycle every year with new additions, where as Americans really just want "the original" or first one they see and see the rest as copies or inferior imitations.Ultraman was fairly popular here, but none of the other ultraseries really got any attention, and when they market it here they have to start with the original(where as in Asian countries they'll get whatever current Ultra is out)Power Rangers made it big with Zyuranger, and they didn't want to change the characters or suitsIn Japan, they kept changing the Transformers cast with new leaders, while American kids cried for Optimus to come backLion Voltron was seen as the only "real" Voltron with the vehicle one as a copy, and those 80's kids thought Power rangers was a "voltron ripoff"(despite Golion being a sentai inspired series)Pokemon is one of the most notorious examples with the US being full of people who reject anything after the first generation
>>145559609Ah yes the kill all of them ending.
>>145561009Power Rangers managed to remain consistently loved despite season changes up to at least In Space. I don’t remember how far beyond that, but for those ones in particular was all more connected than the ones afterwards.
>>145561009I talked to a Japanese dude who was so weirded out about how Golion was super popular in America compared to other super robot stuff. He was like "It's an okay show, sure. But they tried Mazinger twice and couldn't get it to work. What's wrong with you guys?"
>>145560666>satan tripsGlad to see he has good taste.
>>145561009>they kept changing the Transformers cast with new leaders, while American kids cried for Optimus to come backAmerican transformers doesn't know how to phase in and out of lleaders and teams. They think they have to kill off bots. For all the dumb shit IDW tf did, it did the right thing by telling stories with different squads and not focusing just on megs and prime. Hell, hasbro at any time could make a season 2.5 or 4.5 at any time for g1.We see hotrod, kup, arcee and a dozen others for the first time in the movie. They could make an entire season or more about what they were doing before the movie. Sky lynx, terrorcons, predacons, etc, we have no idea what they were doing before season 3. And we have no idea what galvatron and zarak did after season 4There is a whole lot of material there for seasons about other teams doing stuff. But for some reason hasbro thinks you have to focus on prime then rodimus,
>>145561170I wish I knew, Mazinger is a much better Super Robot franchise than Voltron.
>>145561170Ask him why japan has a compulsion to dub transformers like comedy's for 6 year olds?Does he know that TF in the US is for kids between the age of 4 and 13 and maybe older if you consider that the 86 movie and season 3 have a writing level on par with og star trek?
>>145561210Voltron has a much more compelling toy, but is simpler than the car voltron. Its in a very specific sweet spot.Mazinger's design is less compelling
>>145561041Power Rangers was a steady success when Saban and Disney realized they had to move forward.They never reached the high MMPR did--but that's ok, it still sold decently and was a top boy's toyline. but since Saban and now Hasbro got the series back, they've been wanting to chase the high of the first series.The problem is America won't tolerate mid-range success long term like Japan will. It's all or nothing. American execs will just see that MMPR did so well and demand that over and over again. Japanese execs will tolerate something that's steady. Sentai ratings infamously haven't been the best for years, but it's not getting cancelled because it's still a reliable enough seller to be worth it. >>145561170There was one American mecha collector who talked to a Japanese collector about Machine Robo, known as Gobots here. He was wondering why it never really took off in the US. In Japan, MR is a well known brand as cheap but clever designed little figures. Being cheap and small was the point, they were meant to be carried in pockets and purchasable with pocket money. But in America, the marketing for Transformers(which didn't do as well in Japan as Diaclone or Microman) was all about how Transformers was the real deal and all the others were copies.Also you were poor and a loser if you bought those tiny, dinky Go-bots. Didn't help that the Gobots cartoon was much worse. Transformers basically cannibalized all other mecha series in the US.
>>145561420Machine Robo would have been more popular in the States if we got Revenge of Chronos instead of Gobots. That anime is so fucking cool.>>145561230Beast Wars' dub isn't quite as dumb as everyone says. Americans seem to only remember the cool bits instead of all the slapstick.>>145561210Luv me some Mazinger. Especially Great. Tetsuya is such an interesting hero. I like the original too. I think Dr. Hell's gaggle of villains are more interesting than the Mycene though.
>>145561230>Ask him why japan has a compulsion to dub transformers like comedy's for 6 year olds?nta, but after age. 8-9 kids would start watching Gundam>Does he know that TF in the US is for kids between the age of 4 and 13 and maybe older if you consider that the 86 movie and season 3 have a writing level on par with og star trek?The OG Star Trek was considered appropriate for little kids. Japanese mecha shows in the 70's had enemies commit seppuku and cities wiped out by villains. The level was a whole notch above what the US was doing.
>>145561475>Americans seem to only remember the cool bits instead of all the slapstick.But even JApanese fans complain about the changes.BW had slapstick, sure, but the problem is the BW dub is full of adlibbing and random character gimmicks ontop of that. It doesnt feel like an organic addition.
>>145561243True, if Mazinger had that kickass design Golion got it might have actually blown up in the states, as much as I love the simplistic robot super hero design it's got it doesn't stand out compared to Golion.
>>145561481Sounds like they need to be more horny for talking robots. Like Bravern.The fact transformers are their own individuals is why there’s so many robots fucking robots ships in Transformers.
>>145544400He's less annoying than the schizos that screech about him.
>>145561510It's a bit more comedic, but I still think the hate is somewhat overblown.
>>145561535It's not really hated so much as it's treated as a bizarre curio and as interesting trivia that a Japanese dub basically did what US dubs were doing to anime(that said, it's not out of the ordinary for Japan to dub shows that way, it's just that transformers is one of the few fandoms that'd be interested in how their media was dubbed in Japan_ . More sympathy that Japanese fans didn't get a proper dub than outright anger. But there is nostalgia for it from Japanese fans by now and the goofy dub probably helped. American cartoons that made it big in Japan tended to be more ot of the ordinary and unlike anime seen there. BW season 1 was popular, Donkey Kong country was apparently popular over there, and PPG as well. BW II, Neo, and Car Robots didn't do well and I think part of that is due to them not having the same feel BW season 1 did. More standard anime.
>>145541663>>145549607Why couldn't we save /our girl/'s show, bros??
>>145559213Because she’s shown to be indifference to Lotors own murder of their lizard comrade. Even when they turn “traitor” they were secretly helping Lotor against his mom all along.It literally took Lotor revealing he hates. Every. Single. Galran. For them to realize the ten million red flags he had already set up weren’t a coincidence.
>>145544166Wouldn't Power Rangers be the more apt comparison?
It sucks that I wasn't watching this show as it was running. Now there's nothing worth watching anymore since anime is so shit and there's no good cartoons.
>>145541663Fucking good. Talk about taking the good thing you had and just fucking it up beyond all recognition.
>Adventure Time: Blew it>Regular Show: Blew it>Young Justice: Cascade of fuckups>Korra: Even bigger cascade of fuckups>Gravity Falls: Finale blew it>Steven Universe: Hiatus'd to death>Star Vs: REALLY blew it>Voltron: LOL>Wakfu: Blew it>Infinity Train: Mediocre disappointment>Samurai Jack: Blew it>Star Wars: EU killed by Disney>She-Ra: Season 4 blew it>Hilda: Ended too soon, Season 3 blew it>Dragon Prince: Blew it>Amphibia: Killed by filler>Primal: Season 2 blew it>Owl House: Killed by homophobia>Invincible: Was never good, then blew it anywaysThere's no good cartoons anymore. What the fuck am I supposed to watch?!
>>145560909Nothing really. A fan had a tour they took some pics and put them online. Then an unrelated retard on Twitter made a tweet at the studio to "make klance canon and we'll take down the leaks"
>>145561170Golion wasnt Golion. It was censored beyond measure and Voltron was one of the few existing robot animes at the time in the west
>>145562440Given how little actually happened in Voltron, we should've gotten Klance
>>145562475If Shiro had been allowed to actually die or had been held back from returning longer as in another consideration, you bet the Klancers would've been rambling "Here's how Klance will win" with one less assumed obstacle in their way
>>145541663I will thank this show for giving us fem Pidge but nothing else
>>145561243>>145561524Yeah I want to like Japanese super robot stuff, but most of the designs just aren't that engaging. Voltron is just so well done. The limbs roaring after combination and the perfectly balanced
>>145542998>As s1&2 fujos were pissing themselves at the prospect of Keith with a girlHoly COPE Batman
>>145561868She was the one to pull the trigger on him
>>145557906A digital library service that lets you check out TV shows, movies, comics, audio books and e-books.
>>145542998Artist? Assuming they weren't purged from tumblr
>>145561420> the marketing for Transformers(which didn't do as well in Japan as Diaclone or Microman) was all about how Transformers was the real deal and all the others were copiesthat rubsign commercial is hilarious
>>145562438Big City Greens and Kiff
>>145541663Looks fine to me.
>>145563840Never heard of them. I'm not watching them unless you can guarantee me they're better than Naruto.
>>145563922>SoulTaker's commentFuck off trying to make us download bad torrents
>>145541663What do you think "lost media" means?
>>145542546>It turned to shit because the creators "pandered"It turned to shit because the creators mapped out a plan as far as Lotor, then just "winged it" assuming they'd be able to think of an ending.Then they gave us an ending where* The Quintessence entities that turned Zarkon and Haggar evil were unimportant* Allura was suddenly powerful enough to create an entire multiverse out of nowhere before dissolving* There was a timeskip showing that the whole gang drifted apart and embraced nonsense careers, salting the earth so there wasn't even any fan effort to get another season and "Fix" everything everyone hatedIf you look at this mess of a show and think "you know what went wrong? GAYS" you're enough of a dumbass you deserve to drown while watching your family decide not to help you.
>>145564223according to autistic lost media youtubers, if it's not available for streaming on the internet it's "lost". said people also care disproportionately more about finding the yiddish dub of [insert toddler show here] than anything else
>>145564544>If you look at this mess of a show and think "you know what went wrong? GAYS" you're enough of a dumbass you deserve to drown while watching your family decide not to help you.Weakling.
>>145543289thoooose weeere the days my friendI forget, did somebody spam kiddie porn at perceived anti-fujo VAs or just threaten to kill their children?
>>145565784She's ruined herself by becoming a disgusting pooner. if she was on the other side, she'd be in the fandom.
>>145543289Dude, all fanbases are like that. Shows just aren't good enough to stand up without shipping anymore.
>>145565760Your jimmies seem to have been rustled by a simple recounting of what actually happened.
>>145566619You know what the law is on 4chan. If you don't blame the Other for things not satisfying you, the Schutzstaffel gets sent to your house to kill you and your family for wrongthink. Now apologize for your nuance and blame women for Voltron sucking.
>>145563660The first time is actually a fake out she was still loyal to him. Not that you could follow that
>>145563698Autumn Sacura
>>145541663>lost mediaThat implies no one has a pirated version.
>>145541663Good, it was too gay.
>>145543289>The problem with that is the toxicity of an audience that consists heavily of fujos. When their entire interest in a show consists of their made up porn, they're not a genuine fanbase. Almost all of them have moved on.Your math doesn't add up. Just look at Gundam, where the fujo-favorite pairings have rarely become canon. Your fandom can survive if most people think the ending was "okayish" and there's still room to play pretend with your OTP.The problem: (1) The ending did not make sense from a narrative perspective. We were told way back in the beginning of the show that Zarkon and Haggar were good people turned into evil zombies by extradimensional creatures. For the ending to not address that in any way was a huge dropped ball. And Haggar going "I've destroyed the whole multiverse" followed by Allura going "I've rebuilt it out of nothing (and now I evaporate" just wasn't something they built up to organically. Total nonsense.(2) The major theme of the show was teamwork and togetherness. It's a show about robots merging for pity's sake. The ending had most of the group holding their dicks (or strap-on in Pidge's case) while Allura did everything. Then we learned that the group just drifted away and barely kept in touch. Total thematic breakdown, and nobody wanted to see their happy "found family" just break up like it was no biggy. (3) The timeskip meant that the previous problems were written in stone. There was no point in trying to do a fan campaign for another season, or some "we'll write our own epilogue" or anything. The showrunners very firmly said "this is the ending, like it or leave it" and people left (the fandom).(4) It's a minor thing in comparison, but NO fan of ANY pairing was happy. Even the Lance/Allura people were pissed. Even the "I just want everyone to be friends" people were pissed, because the whole group split up!It's like they followed a mathematical formula to write an ending DESIGNED to kill their fandom overnight.
>>145566876>The ending had most of the group holding their dicks (or strap-on in Pidge's case)ngl I kinda want to see a doujin where Pidge is invited to join the guys in gangbanging Allura.
>>145566925That was probably just a standard Thursday on that ship.
>>145566876The whole zarkon/haggar arent really evil thing was pretty bad too. Turning around and saying your villains were only villains because they experienced quintessence poisoning seems like cop out. And then they said oh, well theyre evil because of the rift entities. But then they show the rift entities were controlled by Honerva anyways. It also doesn't make sense that quintessence=evil because they all use quintessence all the time.
>>145553960nuh uh
>>145567004> Turning around and saying your villains were only villains because they experienced quintessence poisoning seems like cop out.It is, nonetheless, what they established had made the villains into villains. Not addressing the "turn people evil" entities properly was an even bigger cop-out.They even had Allura get semi-infected and created minor "what will it do to her" suspense only for her to go "no change, guess Zarkon and Haggar were just punk bitches easily corrupted."Floor-to-ceiling shit-tier resolutions of every plot thread.
>>145542998I'm a fujo, and I wanted Keith to be with Allura like in the og
>>145542998>rumoredIf you don't have the showrunner on record saying "this was our actual plan, we just changed our mind" you're just spouting nonsense.
>>145541678this is what everyone else thinks has happened, and then it's lost because surprise, most people are stupid. if you like a thing, make sure you own it
>>145567057You deserved this, understand? You deserved this.
>>145556938shiro's just inherently fuckable by anyone
>>145567095I would have settled for pretty much anything except for "Allura disintegrates and the rest of the group go on their own merry ways, barely keeping in touch, and Lance becomes a farmer for some raisin, then they get together after several years to watch the lions NOPE out of the entire universe."what. the. fuck.
>>145567147eh i wasn't really mad about it personally. I didn't even watch the last season, just skipped to the ending to see what happened. At least Shiro was confirmed as gay, that's all I cared about lol
>>145559405Just like they never say whatever the deal was with Sincline's return in season 8
>>145567106Brother they literally have Zethrid tease them and then have Zethrid hurt Keith to make Axca feel the way she did about Ezor. Axca stands watching Keith and Krolia at his dads grave. They do everything but kiss but this fandom is so retarded they just pretend not to see it. And yes one of Axcas VAs reportedly said so and considering the actual text it checks out
>>145566876It's hard to really say whether this or "Star Vs." has the worst ending of any animated series. I mean, at face value, "Star did a genocide" is worse. But bear in mind that the Dreamworks showrunners were told at the very start that they'd have 76 episodes. That's unheard of and they still fucked it up. 90% of the people working in animation would commit murder for a "you have 76 eps to tell a story" deal and instead of making something good enough to make deal like that more common, the showrunners fucked up so badly their fandom just vanished.
>>145544102>They blamed everything on having to have Shiro come back when there was a million better ways to deal with such a mandate.They literally had the original Voltron to reference as a way to handle the "not dead but far apart" Shiro situation. It was LITERALLY in the original, holy shit these retards are incompetent. Shiro could've been the one to discover the Alteans and become a leader away from Voltron
>>145567296Honestly, Voltron had rendered my expectations so low that I was grateful no one died at the of Svtoe. It wouldn't be till much later that I really grasped how badly svtoe ended because, well, better than Voltron!
>>145567191she marked him like branding a cow
>>145567320>Try to kill Shiro for real this time for the original artistic vision that they got meddled with to change last second because Shiro was popular>Get meddled with to change last second because Shiro is popularIt's like poetry it rhymes.
I just hate how weak Voltron itself was.Even after 8 seasons they seemed as weak as when they fought for the first time since they could not even defeat one robeastAnd then the final battle has them get repeatedly humilited by the same trick and they can only defeat Honerva with a lame pushing maneuver after she already destroyed 99 % of the the multiverse.
>>145567320He could have joined the rebels, found Matt (who despite being his co worker seemed not personally interested in finding him) founds the Alteans and met a genderbent Romelle. As you know, he does in every other iteration.
>>145567430Romelle had an older brother in Voltron, so Shiro could've just fucked him and mentored Romelle and Bandor
>>145541663>Lost MediaThis piece of shit is in every bootleg stream website.
>>145567373Their original "artistic vision" was just copying anime tropes. Those fags were obsessed with Gurren Lagann and thought they'd be unique by incorporating the Kamina character into Shiro
>>145567373Dotu didn't kill off Sven. Neither did DDP or even Force iirc. In Golion Shiro dies and then his twin shows up later. In Dotu since, the designs were the same, they just had Sven become hospitalized for some time before he showed up again.
The excuse of "Executives said Shiro is popular so you can't kill him off" always struck me as weird. Seasons 1 and 2 are actually just one season. Animation takes a long time to develop and finalize, so how did the execs know from before season 1 was released that Shiro was "popular?" I remember hearing the Shiro popularity reasoning as early as S1 too
>>145567358i mean there were also people that died at the end of SVTFOE. that was a pretty significant thing that happened. like i understand where you're coming from here but they very much did have characters die.
>>145567004Quintessence turning Zarkon, Haggar, and by proxy most of the Galra evil, wasn't bad. What was bad was the Quintessence was dropped in favor of Lotor keikaku shit and familial drama.Quintessence being an end game villain was a pretty obvious set up to almost everyone here, and I think most people would have been satisfied had it been resolved in that manner (even if it did feel a bit like ripping off Gurren Lagann, again). but it didn't happen. It felt like a "subverted expectation" thing in the worst way.Sometimes the most predictable plotline is the most satisfying, which is something I feel like modern writers, who feel this need to "outsmart" their audience, forget.
>>145567652I'm assuming there's words left out of the explanation and what they were trying to convey was "the execs decided that the military character would be popular with the target demo, and initial test screenings seemed to confirm it, so they wouldn't let us kill him."
>>145567672I meant like Star and Marco. I was also worried they'd end do a "never meet again" kind of end. Magic people are apparently not real people
>>145567652i mean, a lot of dumbass execs think a main character has to be non-controversially likeable. keith is kind of a dick or at least is that kind of dickish archetype.
>>145567704Lots of people regularly used quintessence (ie allura) without suddenly becoming evil. It's just energy.
>>145563660And? That doesn’t really change the point they didn’t handle Lotors girl gang well at all.
>>145567704This. Fuck the people saying "Um but Voltron fighting evil corrupting entities wouldn't be satisfying" can go sit on a bag of dicks. There's nothing wrong with an action-adventure show ending with the heroes defeating monstrous extra-dimensional entities that have been feeding our dark sides and turning us against one another.Preferably play something like this as The Good Guys triumph over Corrupting Evil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52--FKUQgU&ab_channel=Dino
>>145567767What even possessed them to think it would be okay to ship a main character like Keith with the OC Donut Steel and be liked?>>145567704>I feel like modern writers, who feel this need to "outsmart" their audience, forget.I hate the "subverting expectations" meme so much. There's a reason why classic fairy tales, epics, and legends are still popular to this day
>>145567762Quintessence is an energy. There were entities INSIDE the Quintessence dimension that turned Zarkon and Haggar evil.It's very much Doctor Who sci-fi. "Well yes that power source seems harmless... but there's something LIVING IN THERE and it's EVIL and every time we use this power it notices us."
>>145567065>They even had Allura get semi-infected and created minor "what will it do to her" suspense only for her to go "no change, guess Zarkon and Haggar were just punk bitches easily corrupted."Nah, they tried to show it was fucking with her too, remember how she mindrapes the uncorrupted version of Zarkon that existed in Haggar's mind or whatever? It's just they already wrote Allura like such a bitch throughout the seasons that no one even noticed.
>>145567095Well no you see you can't use the legacy ship of the IP because that's just too easyCaptcha ODDSDX
>>145567785what's wrong with a new girl character? discount azula wasn't that bad
>>145567801No, I noticed that and assumed they were going somewhere with it. But they didn't.So the "Allura HAS become corrupted" scene just becomes "Allura is pissed and isn't playing nice an more."
>>145567803In trying to be quirky and different, they meandered to the point where their plot and relationships (platonic and romantic) turned out to be shit. Dotu Allura will always mog VLD Allura
>>145567515This. The ending is blatantly Gurren Lagann. I also don't understand why they thought anime = good necessarily.
I still like this nigga, even if no one else does. Sadly, he was the most under-developed main villain, but he was still enjoyable. Too bad they bogged down his season with literal whos and didn't give him enough screentime.
>>145567822You don't ship OCs with legacy characters unless the legacy is a fat loser, i.e Hunk. No one cared about Hunk even in the DOTU days. Also Axca was less entertaining than watching paint dry>>145567860I miss him too, anon...
>>145567870hunk was my favorite character, actually. but i suspect we watched the show for different reasons.
>>145567790That's definitely never explained. Nor are the rift entities never actually presented as evil themselves--just animalistic in nature. People say they're bad but no one explains why. Evil requires a level of sentience that's never demonstrated
>>145567828Why wouldn't she be pissed faced off with the man who murdered her family and planet?
>>145567870>I miss him too, anon...At least we got to see a cute uncorrupted version in season eight.
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>>145541663No, that means dreamworks gets it fully. Although I’m not expecting a sort of home video release anytime soon due to its reputation alone, probably in the future down the line but not soon
>>145566876Gundam persists because of model kit sales. Do you think fujos are buying most of those?
>>145567923There are entities in the Quintessence that aren't the Quintessence itself and yes that much WAS explained. We also establish that they turned Honerva and Zarkon into evil zombies.Now you certainly can argue that we never established that the entities themselves were "evil." There was sufficient room to do all sorts of things. Maybe they're truly evil, maybe this is all a big misunderstanding, fun could be had. SOME expectations could even have been subverted!But a hearty "on second thought those things aren't important" was the worst possible resolution.
>>145568104Gunpla is just one part of the fandom, the protagonists in Gundam have massive fanbases that have their own merch.Anon's point is you don't need to actually give fujos what they want, in fact the denial of it often fuels the flames more.
>>145566876>Just look at Gundam, where the fujo-favorite pairings have rarely become canon.If by "rarely" you mean "never", then sure. Seriously, when has a gay pairing ever actually happened? Even G-Witch's main couple had Nanrise announcing "NO HOMO". Amuro's had a constant affliction of Not-Gays throughout Early UC, Char's a bisexual pedophile who a bunch of fans wish was Uso's granddad from a loveless beard, Wing gave every boy their own girlfriend save for sketchy circumstances for Trowa and Quatre only to go full retard in Frozen Teardrop, Guin's a creeper that nobody wants Loran with, and the Seed boys are sexless, personality-deprived morons who underwent all of Freedom reinforcing that their love for their girlfriends gives them both strength and immunity from mind probing.
>>145567065>they should explore this bad writing decisionMan you people will defend missteps in the "good" seasons just to condemn the later ones harder.
>>145567095You have to be a woman to be a fujo. Fuck outta here.
>>145568843You don't do a whole episode establishing two major characters were "good" until some weird aliens turned them into zombie-vampire-monsters, then go "BUT ENOUGH ABOUT THAT, IT DOESN'T MATTER."Bitch all you want that you didn't like the idea, you don't introduce something like that then sweep it under the rug.
>>145568799>Even G-Witch's main couple had Nanrise announcing "NO HOMO"I mean ParentCompany can say "NO HOMO" all it likes, the girls keep calling one another "my groom" and "my bride" and wear wedding rings at the end. At a certain point it's just CorpoCope.I don't even like the show, but that's a canon couple right there.
>>145567704>bad writing isn't bad writing, it's a wasted opportunity that I'm using mental gymnastics to label with the Rian Johnson disparagement!Living, greed-inducing magic as a villain is lame and you should feel bad.
>>145568960I thought you hated homosexuality.
>Lose husband and son>Scour multiverse for a reality where they're alive and there's a vacant slot to hop into>Little shithead Lotor goes "you're not my REAL mommy!" and ruins everythingKids are the real villains. Grow the fuck up and let people from another reality replace your dead loved ones, yeesh. It's a win-win scenario!
>>145569178Fuck off, Rick & Morty sucks.
>>145567276>And yes one of Axcas VAs reportedly said so and considering the actual text it checks outi'll take your word on that
>>145569265IRRELEVANT TO THE PRINCIPLE BEING DISCUSSED. An alternate reality version of your dead loved one shows up, specifically from a reality where she's mourning the loss of an alternate-reality you. You embrace that second chance, kiddo.
>>145563840No seriously what the fuck are these shows and why should I bother if they're not going to be better than all the shows I listed
>>145569400See >145552437 and pic. You're just sticking your head in the sand pretending they weren't originally planning to do something with a character introduced in season 2
Why did this show never get porn
>>145569616>THIS IS PROOF PEOPLEShades of Zutarra.
>>145569501i think i'd spiral into existential despair
>>145569616I was agreeing, nimrod
>>145569698How dare you agree with me!
>>145569646Oh but it did
>>145569698Sorry it's hard to tell when many people do genuinely pretend there nothing going on
>>145569646It did. There was plenty all over Tumblr, it finished airing just as Tumblr did their porn ban.
>>145569646>missed the shitload of sheith pornheh, the japanese part of the fandom went crazy with those two
>Coran never got any development
>>145562440Just that? Man, I remember it being a bigger shitstorm for some reason. What a nothingburger.>>145562475>we should've gotten Klance>'we'LOL>>145562898Had a good laugh (on top of the previous post), thanks.
>>145565784kek, I remember one guy who converted from Sheith to Shadam made all sorts of angered tweets about how some fat dyke like her was a bootlicker and shouldn't be telling real queers how to behave to the staff and voice actors. All over this Adam day of terror.>tmw Bex came back to tumblr to promise the tea on VLD executive meddling and staff fuckery>never delivered
>>145568779In a roundabout way that was my point, yes. "The fujos didn't get what they want, that's why the fandom died" is nonsense. You can ignore their demands and still have them love your show. The writers did so many things wrong in the final eps you honestly could use it as an example of what NOT to do in a writing class.
>>145571618"We" as in "people who watched this show". Wanting a totally sexless show like Voltron to have literally anything to make its characters stand out doesn't make you a femoid.Then again, this is 4chan. There's a good chance you didn't watch this at all and just know about it through googling info about fan shitstorms
>>145541703>>145543289Gundam had this problem and the solution was regular AUs. Each one oscillates between fujo/ota appeal, so over time the fanbase stays relatively stable and strong.Honestly, they should do a really out-there adaptation (Arcane-style: 2 seasons, don't half-ass it) with a video game tie-in (AA, relatively low production values but tight and unique gameplay), wait a couple years, then do a stupidly-faithful live-action version.
>>145572459>fujo-baiting is badGundam only got popular because of women taking a liking to Amuro, Char and Garma.
>>145541670It should have been 2 seasons, but there were a bunch of production issues, so they sporadically released a bunch of short "seasons" with a few episodes each instead of normal full length seasons.
>>145572592They should have released episodes weekly on a cable network instead of being a fucking Netflix show.
>>145572654Networks don't want action cartoons.
>>145572592Netflix liked splitting up other shows strangely too. She-Ra had 52 episodes that were two 26-episode production seasons, but Netflix wanted it divided further.
the absolute state of leakingpoop's delusions about the true season 8 is always something to behold. somewhere, people believe there's a true progressive voltron locked away that the man refuses to let you see.https://www.tumblr.com/leakinghate/738827251631751168/
>>145568799>Even G-Witch's main couple had Nanrise announcing "NO HOMO".Their social media panicked, both the original ending and some content that's come out since confirmed that Miorine won the Sulettabowl. IBO had Yamagi (confirmed gay) and Shino (confirmed bi and would have had the bussy he was aiming for if he wasn't such a terrible shot). And Divers had Magee, as well as (unconfirmed but teased out the wazoo) Shahryar and Tigerwolf.Banrise is like Squeenix in that the directors are battling (and generally winning, on account of being correct) old guard execs to do shit that sells like "be as gay as possible."
>>145568960The day-one Utena callbacks also make it extremely unlikely that they didn't turn into cars.
>>145572868Gundam's had overt homos since Turn A. 00 or IBO are both still the entries with the most gays.
>>145572813Not surprised considering tumblr was the same shithole that believed there was a secret ending/season for BBC's Sherlock
>>145572508I didn't say that. I said that having series that appeal to male autists in between the fujofests helps keep everyone happy.
>>145572957I suppose it depends on your definition of "overt", but someone already mentioned Quatre. Also, there was zero percent Lady Une wasn't pegging Treize.
>>145541663They lost me when Pidge and Lance didn't become canon
>>145572924Also the writer for G-Witch is a guy known for writing all sorts of homoerotic subtext between his main leads if there’s more than one of them.Lelouch and Suzaku, CC and KallenThat Vampire teen and the Elf from the Space Vampire mecha showHeck he wrote for Devilman which is literally about how fucking Gay the devil is for some Japanese femboy turned big bloodthirsty demon.And of course SK8 the Infinity.
>>145550696The only acceptable and good ship.
>>145571534>no nanny either
>>145567860Honestly I hated how they did his return. He was mostly just Haggars muscle and wasn’t the cunning guy who once tried to destroy the ship from the inside.It’s like how they portrayed the Druids as the competent but nameless wizard ninjas who were better at leading Galran forces than the Galrans themselves. Then they decided to have all of them except the one Keith has fought previously die off screen.
>>145544144Only their 40s and 50s which is old for cartoons and comics, but they're not grandparents unless both they and their kids got married and had kids ASAP
Kill Galra. Behead Galra. Roundhouse kick Galra into the concrete. Slam dunk a Galran baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Galrans. Defecate in a Galrans food. Launch Galrans into the sun. Stir fry Galra in a nutrient paste. Toss Galra into supernovas. Urinate on a Galrans Balmera Crystal. Judo throw Galra into a Black hole. Twist Galra heads off. Slice Galra in half. Curb stomp pregnant Mutt Galra. Trap Galra in quicksand. Crush Galra in gravity beam. Liquefy Galra in a vat of acid. Eat Galra. Dissect Galra. Exterminate Galra in the gas chamber. Stomp Galra skulls under human boots. Cremate Galra in the oven. Hoktril Galra. Mandatory abortions for Galra. Grind Galra fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Galra in liquid shit. Vaporize Galra with a ray gun. Kick old Galrans down the stairs. Feed Galrans to Cosmic whales. Slice Galrans with a Broadsword.
>>145567837>OG Lotor doesn't kill womenHe mentioned disposing of slave girls who he was done with in the Pit of Skulls.
>>145572813There's a bit of evidence that the last season may have been altered in minor ways ie. Ezor and some Curtis cameos are speculated to have been added in last minute. There's no "secret season" with a different ending
>>145573205>the writer for G-Witch is a guy known for writing all sorts of homoerotic subtext between his main leads if there’s more than one of them.Every big shonen has its hero and rival's relationship interpretable as gay romance. It's not a unique phemonenon for one or two specific writers.
>>145541663It was disappointing how they handled Lotor. I didn't care one way or another about the shipping stuff but the "melting into a pile of goo" ending that he got seemed to be a lazy way to get him out of the show.
>>145541663You have a million sites to pirate this slop. Besides, who the fuck gives a crap about voltron these days?
>>145573326I was under the impression sendak was brain dead and completely controlled by Haggar just as she had done with Zarkon earlier.
>>145573205Geez. We shouldn't even be having this conversation, honestly. It's only an issue because homophobes on /m/ were so desperate that their delusion took on a life of its own. Korrasami all over again.
>>145573488Yeah, that's about the extent of changes. Ezor was super obvious, they even used some pitched-up "NO" from Kimberly Brooks that was recycled since they couldn't even get her actual actress to do a line.
>>145557479What was the artist's name? Just to avoid.The Lotor wife who bilked people and even had a Keitor server she nuked was named Lucigaki iirc.
>>145573613Genuinely seems like they struggled to get actors in half the time. Ezor, Keith and Matt/Sam all had lines adjusted supposedly because the actors weren't available and Axca had two VAs. Considering how many episodes got put out in a short amount of time there must have been a hell of a time crunch. Changing your script because of an actors unavailability (ie keith) is retarded but makes more sense if you imagine they had very little time to spare
>>145573512You seem to misunderstand. The point is that he intentionally leans into the subtext on purpose. Sk8’s whole thing was how gay Reki and Langa were without ever saying and the villain Adam was a gay matador skater who wanted Langa to be his “Eve” and whose bottom is a guy named “Snake”.Devilman was from the 70s and the surprise Satan fell into love with a Japanese teen after larping as a Half-American teen boy himself for years. Devilman Crybaby leaning into that more.
>>145572924Who among us hasn't turned into a car after being very very gay?
>>145573772Or making a White Woman Mecha orgasm so hard from one’s homosexuality you use her to turn into a Mecha yourself?
>>145569501Wouldn't that just trap you both in a coping spiral where you mutually represent denial over your lack of control in life, slowly transforming your entire concept of family into a depraved, emotionless husk?
>gayHow did Brave Bang Bravern succeed but Voltron failed?
>>145574853leaned into the gay shit also didn't have 16 year olds western retards bitching about how the show should make their ship canon
>>145570571I know, I was there in the trenches all those years ago
Pidge best girl and I want to marry her
It had a lot of promise in the beginning but it completely fell apart.
>>145574515No.
>>145574933>>Voltron failed because it was too gay. Or not gay enough. One of those anyway.Voltron failed because they botched the ending more than should have been humanly possible, leaving nobody satisfied and even managing to pour cement over the fuckup by doing a timeskip, so there wasn't even room for people to fantasize about another season fixing things.
>>145573482It just meant he threw them away to live in a lower dungeon, silly. Dotu Lotor never hit a woman!
>>145542553Grim.
>>145569646It got loads of gay porn You just have to remember the fandom it got
>>145574853I couldn't finish this shit because the stupid loli girl was annoying as hell
>>145543308I tuned out pretty much immediately when it started with the "Lions attacked during a victory parade." Fuck it. The last Voltron media that was enjoyable was the autists convinced that Cloverfield was Voltron because they heard "It's alive." as "It's a lion." When the statue of Liberty was beheaded.
>>145576051Whom?
>>145576051It was mentally a baby and also Louis is her mom-dad. Thus the seaturtle giving birth when he “births” her.She also ends up with her future self time traveling into her to save her dad and his boyfriend.
>>145576340Shit I forgot to mention the whole “birthing” her was him giving her CPR.
>>145573326>Honestly I hated how they did his return. He was mostly just Haggars muscle and wasn’t the cunning guy who once tried to destroy the ship from the inside.I love the dude, but I agree. He came off as smart in season one. Upon his return, he did come off as dumbed down.Then again, the writing for the show just felt that way in general to me. Those first couple of seasons hit their mark. From season three onward, it just got messy. I still liked the show overall, but jesus it could have been better.
>>145573709Fusspot. Her NSFW is Nozdraws I think.
>>145573111Turn A was the first one where instead of a character having some homoerotic subtexts letting shippers and fujos consider them gay, the character was all but confirmed gay in the show.
It's hardly lost media.
>>145567822>Discount AzulaYou mean Lotor? Because Lotor 100% was intended to be the show's Azula in just the most half assed fucking way possible. Right down to having his own Ty Lee bundled in with some extra stock tropes and arguably a Mai.
>>145576895I took them as an Evil Voltron squad but they also couldn’t do that right. Just like they couldn’t the example you mention since there’s also the big one and the mute lizard.
>>145576476It was noticeable to me honestly because the disposable Galran villains of the week I’m supposed to believe we’re going to make claim for the Throne when Sendak was the only one Zarkon liked and he preferred Druids to his Galran military outside of that exception?Made worse by the fact the story made the Druid’s disappear entirely despite how prevalent they had been in the early seasons.
>>145561170Mazinger was Japan's voltron (first big robot cartoon), although the entire genre itself arguably lost steam in japan with Zeta "political drama with robots" gundam
>>145577098Yeah, the druids going missing is weird. So many neat set ups in this show, unfulfilled. Sendak's position in the military is weird too. While shown to be highly competent early on, there's little to indicate he's Zarkons "right hand". That just seems like another thing they added on later when they didn't know what villain to have after Lotor (they admitted to bringing back Sendak for that reason). I mean, I'm not gonna complain too much since we got to see him again. Plus his redesign was cooler than the season one design, even if the writing wasn't as good.
>>145576788What program is that????
>>145573326The season 7 forced time jump was the biggest bullshit
>Trying to cater to fujos and made Shiro gay>But Shiro's boyfriend is just an oc that no one really care about >Now all fujos are pissedLooks similar.
>>145577738It's just a torrent website bro.
>>145573488>RELEASE THE HOMO CUT
>>145567146And also people die, get ill, go to jail, marry or have kids, become too old for this bit. Etc.But you've chosed to call them stupid, in all your fair judgeness.
>>145579821complaining society sucks won't get you the lost media back. download it
>>145579834It's not in the sphere of things I like or else I would.
>>145578129Anyone remember the strange Leakira cope AUs made after season 7, with supposedly superior versions of Keith and Lance?And their Shiro was named "Hachiro" after a famous dog? kek
>>145579847fair enough>>145579935that was funny
>>145579951There was also some weird self-important autist who didn't even go there but bragged that Voltron fans should forsake the show and read her crappy literal who webcomic instead as she'd never kill HER "space gays" and it would be true rep. The show really brought out all sorts of strange characters.
>>145573111Well, Tieria canonically had a thing for Lockon. Guinn wanted to fuck Loran in the butt. Alejandro was fucking Ribbons. IBO had too many homos to count. >>145573205Okouchi, the writer you're talking about, is known for a lot of things. He needs a tard wrangler though. I'd say his tendency to completely shit the bed when it comes to pacing right in the last handful of episodes is what I know him best for. It's super evident in G-Witch and it's how the Grendizer reboot he penned has gone.
>>145541663Bye!
>>145541663Still made we never got a beach episode. I wanted Pidge in a swimsuit so bad bros.
>>145541663Until it comes back on tubi
>>145573810I feel like this is Star Driver reference but I'm not sure since I accidentally dropped it after the first episode.
>>145574853>Had nipples>The brown guy was old enough to lewd without shameOh, Hunk...
>>145576109Feels like me getting excited for a Macross movie for 90% of my first viewing of the Abrams Trek teaser. He can't keep getting away with it.
>>145580599Dumbass should've just thrown out all the Dawn of Fold characters instead of spend so much of the second cour trapping the audience in a room with them.
I had such an obsession with Pidge when I was younger.
The one place I didn't expect Voltron to trend was 4chan. Weird.
>>145582425...How old are you?
>>145574853It lost me with the mental time travel but I still plan to finish it
>>145577548Why exactly did the druid hate the Blade again? Were the druids a species?
>>145580740Be real she would just wear board shorts and a sports bra
>>145583894I don't think it ever specified if they were a species. I just assumed they were Galra who could use magic, but tje one druid we see unmasked didn't look particularly Galra. Then again Galra are also a pretty diverse looking species (one of the few fictional alien species to do that. This show was good with designs).
>>145582972older than the stars, yet younger than the trees...
>>145583971I'll take it
>>145580772Based Tubi. Fuck Kikeflix. Tubi and Pluto tv are for real niggas.
>>145578129I think they wanted to do Keith, but they had a few seasons of people saying that would be grooming(Actual grooming, not what the right says when they see any gay person) so they wised up.Shiro and some rando is still better than Allura and Lance though.
>>145585036The storyboarder Barlee had some leaked DMs with a Klance fan where she was mocking Sheith fans with them and saying they wanted Shiro to be a gay groomer. That came out around the time she made her whole public statement about Sheith fujos perverting the show and being as bad as Bronies. Definitely caused more friction between both delusional Klances and Sheiths.
>>145585036There's no proof the show runners wanted to do Sheith, and anyone who thinks they're is is as delusional as a Klance nigger. There was one storyboarder, and some VAs like Josh and mostly Bex who teased it thinking it'd be funny to interact with the shippers, who were already feral retards by season two. And none of them had any say on the writing. It's funny how the VAs goaded the already deranged shippers saying it's whacky fun, then act surprise pikachu faced when shippers became even more unhinged. The smartest VAs were Steve Yeun and Jake Eberle, Sendaks VA, because they stayed the fuck off the Internet.
>>145541663Never watched this, you telling the glasses nerd is a girl?
>>145562438>She-Ra: Season 4 blew itWhere does this meme keep coming from? Season 4 was the best. Season 5 blew it
Anyone else remember when that retarded fan at a con asked if Pidge was nonbinary or a tranny and Lauren shut her down really quick? Good times in this retarded fandom.
>>145574933I blame Legend of Korra and last minute Korrasami for that sort of entitlement developing. In fact, the Korra connection is what made the fandom destined to be a shitshow in the first place. Bryke are ground zero for so much awfulness.
>>145585711The only correct thing LM ever did
>>145586612Meanwhile Bex loved that shit, pooned out and looks like a 15 year old boy and attention whores to other kweerz by making tweets about how she should spill the beans on VLD behind the scenes.
>>145585492Season 4 sucked. The status quo just reset to where it was at the start of season 2, and nothing interesting happened. What a fucking letdown after how amazing seasons 2 and 3 were.
>>145582371His pacing problems are always so bad towards the end. But, still. I'd take him over some of the other writers at Sunrise. Code Geass Roze was really missing his special blend of retardation.
>>145573404They'd be grandparents to infants and toddlers. Elementary schoolers if Latino.
>>145587873>if LatinoThank you for making me remember the El goblino lance memes
>>145588130I also liked the shortlived space Indian Allura memes.
Klance and Sheith are both shit pairings, and I'm happy both parties got BTFO
>Executive Meddling Prevents them from killing Shiro fucking over the plot starting in Season 3 with a stupid clone subplot and basically the plot constantly warping around him having to be alive but also not be a pilot despite being a charismatic and well liked character>Keith's voice actor was given too good a contract, which allowed him to bail for other work during the middle of show, during the period of the show where they clearly planned to have the Keith arc of taking over leadership and developing his relationship with Lothar. Fucking over the plot again>Writers did not like giant robots. Had the baby brain take of being frustrated they had to include them at all which led to worse and worse fights and poor utilization. None of these people understood the fucking Mecha 101 writing tool that the a pilots machine is an externalization of themselves and can be used to demonstrate growth and change. Instead they just got random power ups.>Fujo fans got uppity. Fujo's are a natural part of the mecha series life cycle like a fungus is to the forest, but the studio made some fucking massive blunders that made this rapid fan activity more a negative than a positive>Worst of all. They pulled a fucking JJ Abrams. They had a beginning and a middle and decided they'd wing the ending. Arguably one of the stupidest choices any half decent writer can make because a bad ending can tank the good will of a series faster than anything elseHere's the Voltron of shit that made the show die.
>>145587873You'd think, but a lot of late Gen Xers had kids later in life.
>>145590602Based and correct
>>145590919desu they shouldn't have been wanting to kill off Shiro to begin with. Yes, the original series did it but as a long time gundamfag I can tell you "But the original one did it" has fucked over dozens of series. If I had a nickel for every time somebody decided to whole plot reference like, Zeta or Wing, only to immediately learn why they let Katoki do whatever the fuck he wanted with wing after it was done and why Tomino put a disclaimer in Zeta's DVD collections disavowing it then I'd have a lot of fucking nickels.Shiro was the strong, stable leader who acted as the guy pulling the rest of the fuck ups out of the fire and keeping things focused, the defacto MC. Ensemble casts where everyone is an overdramatic fucktard or emotionally stunted wreck never fucking work, see Young Justice which desperately craved a central viewpoint character who was reliable to keep it on fucking track, and for VLD that was Shiro. The moment he was no longer in that role exactly things started going to absolute shit.
>>145592296That's the point though. His death or absence was supposed to be the catalyst for the team to actually grow up and start working together rather than just do whatever our cool hero guy says. Keith was supposed to have some major growth during this time so he could the leader since Vld is an origin story of the team. It's the only reason Shiro is set up as the leader when he's never held that position in any other iteration. If you keep Shiro as leader then vld is just a weird shitty fanfiction
>>145592887Except that's fucking retarded because by this logic, every version of Transformers that doesn't have Optimus as the leader or Bumblebee as the kid appeal character is a weird shitty fanfiction.A straight shot story with just Shiro as the leader the whole way through would have worked fucking fine, particularly if they didn't make him gay for twitter clout later on unless they're actually going to do what you described which never fucking happened.Which is pretty fucking funny because contrasting Keith/Lotor trying to become leaders and have an actual rivalry would have maybe worked to help carry the show but it would have required actually making the the main character rather that trying to keep awkwardly failing to balance everyone out.
>>145552395Like four of my favorite anime never even had an official English releases and only have English fanbases through fan subs. Where does that put them?
At least there’s Funko Fusion
>>145590919Don't forget their over-reliance on stupid SOL shit like the D&D episode, the gameshow episode, and that fucktarded OC Donut Steel earth squad video episode.
>>145566840It's pretty clear that OP is a retard who has no idea what "lost media" is.
>>145593257fuck off Shironigger, having Shiro be more important than he ever was in any iteration was a retarded decision and not doing anything else with him fucked everything. kuron is the worst clone plot i've ever seen in any cartoon. what the fuck where they even thinking? >A straight shot story with just Shiro as the leader the whole way through would have worked fucking finekeeping Shiro in the party means no one gets growth because they all rely on that faggot for direction instead of learning on their own
>>145594029Secondary protagonists who you aren't going to develop in any worthwhile way regardless probably aren't where I'd stake my fucking claim.And the clone plot only happened because they seethed about not being allowed to kill him off and instead of obeying decided to truck ahead with their retarded plan anyway.
>>145594309>Secondary protagonists who you aren't going to develop in any worthwhile way regardless probably aren't where I'd stake my fucking claimit's an ensemble show, not the Shiro showthey didn't even have to do the clone plot. they were so pig-headed that they didn't even think about using the Sven plot from the dotu
>>145573427damn right. i hated them from beginning to end.
>>145541663So it goes on Peacock now. Big whoop.
>>145595404>Ensemble showThey clearly lacked the skill for that, and it's about as much an ensemble show as Power Rangers was when it was at its strongest. Yeah sure technically they're a team but we all know who the relevant ones were out of Tommy, Jason, Kimberly, Zack, Trini, and Billy and it sure as fuck wasn't anybody who would never go on to wear red.Fact of the matter was that, objectively, matter of historical fucking fact, the moment Shiro was no longer the leader the entire show went to shit and never recovered. That's not even a fucking "liking Shiro" thing because everyone's characters went to fucking hell after he was gone as well. S3 just immediately turned into garbage and the show never pulled up, and the specific narrative root of that problem [as opposed to the metacontext problems] was the lack of a strong central character to carry and focus the narrative and keep things trucking along rather than bogging down in bullshit.
>>145593978What else do you expect out of a community of autists obsessed with toddler shows and commercials?
>>145541663That's not what lost media means anon
>>145586612>tfw angry Klancers insist LM being on a Spider-girls film means she'll be killing all the PoC and dykes>like that movie would ever come out at this point
>>145541663If only every copy of the show actually would erase itself from existence.
>>145596401okay shironigger
I still want recs for good western anime. Otherwise I'm gonna watch Death note.
>>145593257This isn't fucking transformers it's voltron. The only reason Shiro was leader is because that's what retard jds "remembered" despite Sven not ever flying black and not even lasting one season in dotu. Might as well stick lancw in the Black lion next time because that's what vlds retarded fan base wanted so badly
>>145594309Shiro was boring
>>145597116I wouldn't put it past her to kill off any character that isn't her personal self insert. She thought allura dying was muh feminist
>>145593257This would be like if One didn't end with Orion becoming Optimus.
>>145595404I kinda got what they were going for with Shiro and the clones. It was a way to kill him off like in Golion, but also do the "No, he's just back from the hospital planet :)" thing from Voltron.
Need.. need to breed... Breed Pidge.. my angel... Breed...
>Mfw she's pregnant
>>145600849So Gwen would be the only one that would live then, for tomboy rights
>>145601263Huh?
>>145541663I'm in a weird state. I want to buy the blu ray/dvd so i can make smutfics of this. But i really depise the return to earth(that general lady was so damn retarded) and i never finished it since they killed allurawhat should i do...
>>145601351It's not like you can get the last two on video anyway, and Bob Koplar hated what the Dreamworks crew did to "his baby".
>>145541663Good, it was shit.
>>145541663anybody got a mega/torrent for the original dubbed series?I have never been able to find it and am too incompetent for the whole private tracker thing.
>>145541663Why physical media is superior
>>145541670A lot of people hated the last two seasons but I kind of liked the goofy xcom stuff on earth nglI'm still furious Keith didn't score pussy or become Emperor tho
>>145603184>Keith didn't become EmperorThe galra absolutely shouldn't have another emperor but the bit about them electing kolivan and krolia is idiotic. Realistically they'd just elect another war monger.
>>145541670Wow! Surely it must have been a pretty epic action adventure show to get that many seasons!
>>145600833I remember if you ever said that on /vld/ a horde of anons would maul you for ever speaking ill of their shitty blowup doll
>>145541663Good.
>>145541663The original Voltron is an anime from the early 80s tho, this show was just some American bastardization that happened to share name https://youtu.be/jtYiOSNEV_Y?si=lR5frAFRi0JBK4J1 >>145541670>>145542177>>145605544The funniest thing is that despite having that many season it has less episodes than the original still >Voltron (80s): 124 episodes >Dreamwork's Voltron: 78 episodes
>>145605731Sometimes Americans can be alright, I watched the "Robotech" version of Mospeada and they didn't censor the naked loli (only the adult women), pretty based
>>145605731Netflix is just funny and will call any batch drop its own season because that markets better.The number is artificially higher because they had that turmoil in the middle where they had to do halfsize batches.
>>145606994>Sometimes Americans can be alright>"Robotech"Blocking Macross: DYRL, one of the most beautiful mecha media ever created, from airing in America in order to protect their fanfic is retarded.
>>145551446City Hunter, Cyber City Odeo, MegaZone23, M.D Geist, Legends of Galactic Heroes, and Hokuto No Ken.
>>145562438Steven Universe also completely blew it.
>>145541678I only pirated the eps featuring the milf with a muzzle, Olia.
>>145608680I'm not qualified to make a statement on Steven Universe's quality, since I first watched it in 2021 when all of it was already out. Also because I liked Steven Universe but I can't say I did because the Schutzstaffel will kill me for going against the hivemind.
>>145541663How can it be lost if I've never found it
>>145608308Disney is getting the streaming rights to the rest of Macross, so hopefully the Mouse will get the rights from those Harmony Gold USA fucks.
>>145551446Cromartie, Treasure Island, Monster, Kaiba, Captain Tyler
>>145551446Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the PocketIt's short and sweet; a good introduction to UC Gundam.
>>145605731Iirc around 70 of those episodes are the Lion force and the rest are vehicle voltron.
>>145611430The first 52 are Lion Voltron, the next 52 are Vehicle Voltron, and the last twenty are the American-produced Voltron episodes. There's also the TV movie finale.
>>145612234And to think we could've had Albegas as the last half had the Lion not been so popular to make them scratch that plan.At least it dodged the bullet of localization and being held by WEP, and finally got some subbed release.
>>145541663Wait. Voltron is Lost Media now. I thought the show was rightfully over. That was a ongoing series plan?
The writers were told at the very start they'd have 78 episodes and some shorts. SEVENTY. EIGHT. Most people in the industry would kill for a chance at a "Seventy eight episodes, guaranteed, with a reasonable animation budget" deal.The retards working on Voltron heard that, worked out the bare bones for what they wanted to do for the first 50 eps, and just figured that when they got to episode 51 they'd "know" what to do for the last 28 eps. Unsurprisingly it all fell apart because they hadn't been building TOWARD anything, they were just stacking one episode on top of another in the presumption that it would all make sense at the top.If they'd done a good job it could have paved the way for more shows getting a "here's a large number of eps, guaranteed" contract. Instead they doused their fandom in fire and threw a match on them.Their incompetence should have gotten them blacklisted in the industry.I suppose I'll have to settle for Lauren Montgomery not getting any work as a director since Voltron. Although she's one of the directors for the upcoming Aang movie. The one with the dumbass "we need Asian voice actors, because our original voice acting was racist, somehow" decision.
>>145614023OP just misused the term lost media. Probably some dumb zoomie. It's all over torrent sites, and will likely just go to another streaming service.
