Can we talk about how good Beelzebub looked in this episode?
>>146578555>a whole board of sweaty virgins wants to molest me>mfeverification not required
>>146578555The little epaulets are so cute.
>>146578555>>146578572>>146578617built for human men
>>146578642You sure are!
>>146578555like a dog?
>>146578555>Asmodeus and Bee are over 10,000 years old>Best comeback they can give to Mammon about them fucking the lower class peons is "Well fuck you no one wants to fuck your clown ass!"Holy shit, these writers have not matured past middle school. It's pathetic.
>>146578572>>146578617>>146578642>>146578649>ep that isn't romcom drama>loona has full involvement>loona and blitz' interactions>characters are faced with actual danger for fucking around so much>satan is cool>lot of bee content>mammon trolling bee>presence of all the sins minus lucifer (in character for him as there's no reason for him to be involved nor would he care>good song>i could swear the animation is betterWe're eating good tonight
>>146578572I find funny how the overlords look and act more like the actually deadly sins than these fuckers
>>146578699The animation did seem better for some reason
What great goetia designs! Can't wait for them to never be named or brought up in an episode after this!
>>146578699>main conflict is BLitzo and Stolas's stupid gay relationshipBig downside.
Congrats Bee , people calling Leviathan now the worst sin
>>146578728Sorry pal bet viv can do is 85 percent of the next episodes having stolas tongue punch Bltizo's fartbox.
>>146578729Main conflict was I.M.P being on trial for going to the human world, Stella's brother made it out as if Blitz was doing it sneakily and "abusing" Stolas when in reality Stolas was allowing it all willingly as he went on to explain (while embellishing to draw heat away from I.M.P and onto him), literally Loona, Blitz, Millie, and Moxie were all set to be beheaded, then it was reduced down to Blitz, and then Stolas took his place, before being told it was just 100 years of exile and demotion (which is why Stella's brother was so mad, as they are all immortal (other than being executed by hell court) so 100 years is nothing and he will just come right back)Also, note Bee's tits in the bottom left, they are finally animating her with a proper rack rather than just trying to make it seem like chest fluff
>>146578572>Named Gluttony >Gets disgusted by someone eating in front of herShe fake af
>Fuck all ya'llYep. A woman wrote this. Viv also doesn't seem to realize that you can't flick someone off with only four fingers. It just doesn't work.
>>146578829I mean even if a woman didn't write it, that's still how some women talk, including Bee up to this point, so its in character. I think the middle finger gesture is the same either way, also>note her hips and thighsgonna be so much new porn of her in that outfit and color scheme, im so ready
>>146578555It looked a lot like Skibidi Toilet won.
Bee is a sex queen.
>"Is that pastrami?">"Of course! I find it to be the most sensual of all the dry, cured meats..."
>>146579026They made her thicker in the new episode, and just in general more well proportioned, even her face, her eyes are brighter, her everything is better. e621 is about to buckle under the strain of all the new content.
Bee can peg me all she wants.
>>146579294I wanna lick her down and then dick her down.
Honestly she's too considerate and sweethearted to fuck. She's super hot but it doesn't even mentally register to me because I just feel bad for thinking of her that way.I feel guilty thinking of her like that when she's obviously a really compassionate person who gives way too much of herself to other people. It feels like no one's there for her, as a friend, or that she doesn't have anyone in her life who she can just hand around with platonically. She clearly gives all her energy into making sure other people are okay. But I don't think anyone is doing the same for her. I can't lewd her. it just feels exploitative. She also comes off as really anxious underneath her outward confidence which just makes me wanna help the poor girl.She's cool. I wanna be her platonic friend. That's all.
>>146579400I wanna BUST a NUT in her PUSSY
>>146579410Based demonfucker.>capcha 2mash
>>146578795She's eternally hungry but she also has taste
>>146579554>She's eternally hungry but she also has tasteIn human men exclusively.
>>146578555
>>146579741Based Beefucker.
>>146579755Not even being drunk could stop it, I couldn't hold back anymore after the newest episode and this thread
>incoming, incoming, incoming
>>146579776You got a body pillow or what?
You know? I was going to post a rant about how Loona is the worst character ever because I found out it got a canon gag on the same day I learned that I can never commission future Betty Barrett mummified and otn gagged because she's one year too young, but the muzzle doesn't even fully cover it's mouth. So once again, Viziepop fails at everything, even triggering me.
>>146579812onahole
>>146579820Ah. Eh, my hand does the job.
>>146579832I mean yeah, you could live off of nothing but white rice and water, but who wants to do that?
>>146579904
>SHITlascucks seething that Stellachads are capable of enjoying their victory without rubbing it in people’s facesWe just keep winning
>>146580034Look, casual, I love Loona and Beelzebub, I never even goon to Stella, and given her brothers pissyness over the mere 100 year demotion for immortal beings, its clear that the fight between Stolas and Stella isn't over yet. By the way, Stella is just a puppet of her brother, and even he belittles her by saying if not for her looks (what gives women most of their power) she'd be done. Lotta people who aren't into fujo with Stolas still like him and support him against his cunt of a wife, if you weren't such a bluepilled SIMP who probably has girl "friends" IRL then you wouldn't support Stella. Go beta orbit somewhere else.
>>146580049
>>146578829It got the point across, you knew she was flicking people off, so it works.
>>146580127Anons just upset Viv has a successful show watched by millions and he has nothing
>>146579917>>146580049Yeah, I don't think so.
>/ourguy/
>be an unrepentant asshole to everyone all the time>make the lives of everyone that has ever cared about you worse>suffer no consequences>be thanked, praised, and rewarded with everything you have ever wantedHow does he do it?
>>146580318He's in hell, that sounds like everything is working how it should.
>>146580223KYS renamonkey
>>146580034>happy her shitty husband will die>still comforting her daughter anywayWhat exactly is supposed to be the epic own here?
>>146578555So she just has a healthy supply of dick popsicles laying around?
>>146580318>Be first imp to escape death sentence from unpopular royals making him a Hellaverse civil rights hero>Willingly sacrificed himself to save his employees on live television>Everyone changes view of him based on his selfless actions in a time of extreme stressYou learn a lot about a man's character when they're at their lowest point
>found a 10/10 collin/loona fic>author has been churning them outIt's dark as fuck but I loved it. ao3 /works/52892911
>>146579410>>146579419What's the matter, demon fucker?Never fucked a REAL demon before?
>>146580682We ficposting now?
>>146580675>Willingly sacrificed himself>his selfless actions But he was 100% dead no matter what. There was zero reason not to try and get the others off. That was no risk, all reward.>Be first imp to escape death sentence from unpopular royalsBy being saved by the one royal he had personally been a massive asshole to. It's like the worse he treats people the harder they simp for him. Oh wait, this was written by a woman. It all makes sense now.
>>146580682It was promising until the writers barely disguised fetish showed up
>>146580682I knew loona was a coalburner… first vortex now this? This is worse than poly and dyke shit…
It sucks that the most interesting line was immediately retconned via tweet.
>>146580852>Oxxo >LoonaYou almost got lucina right But Loona and Lucina aren’t the same damn furry! Loona has white hair, Lucina has green hair, either recolor Loona or just make a Lucina model from scratch from GMOD.I wanna see if you can kill Lucina
Its clear that Satan is the 2nd in command in the hell hierarchy, the number one (Lucifer/Pride) is AFK, and Satan has the largest form, the ballsiest voice, the most operatic song, and has all the non-pride sins standing up and singing "he is the law"
>>146580987Bullshit! Satan should have tactical gear if he’s the embodiment of WRATH! He should not be a cowboy? He should look like this instead!
>>146578555Oh look. They actually let her have the best color palette from her episode. I guess they realized the other one was hideous.
>>146580987
Stolitz won btw.Bigly.
>>146580987I say it would be more fitting for it to be Lucifuge. You know... the goddamn Governor of Hell. At least that's what I did in my fic... although funnily enough I also have my judge character have a therapist, but that one they hide deep within their tower unlike Satan who keeps them in the open... and for Lucifuge it is more about dealing with misery than just rage.I wrote scene in the pic. It is funny in some ways that they have some similarities both this and the show trial. Although I do not have sins there as this matter is not something none of them really care about. It's mostly for Goetias. The crocodile there is Agares, Lion is Marbas and the one called Overseer is Baal. And funnily enough that "Judgement" is a moment for Stella instead of Stolas. The more I think about it the more funny it is.
>>146580490I'd be happier for Stella chads if they weren't borderline illiterate. You know. Like Stella.
>>146581111Bullshit! Of course they won! Vivziepop is a fujofag! Helluvaboss is a turbo antiwhite, antihuman, coalburning, poly dyke shit cartoon! Just you wait till I make my own helluvaboss! It would be helluvaboss but better, basically zoophobiaBut minus the gay LGBT retards, coalburners, misanthropes, femboy fujofaggots, comedian loser cartoon faggots like looptygoopty, sex joke faggatory, degeneracy unfunny parody like emberlyn, comedian loser writing, dyke shit, poly shit, cartoonish art style bullshit mostly the humans and sinners, anti hmofashit, father and daughter but no anthro canine gf but gay faggot Fujo femboy bird shit, dog stereotype shit (lackadaisy is a good example of not adding stereotypical animal shit like references, food, litter, or puns, but still using animal biology and animal behavior in a good way) basically non of that gay shit!
>>146581175I look like this and I say that
>>146581175>gateshitOh nonono hahaha look at this dude
>>146581175>Gaylo
>>146581175>anti hmofa
>>146581211Actually that’s female sangehili because in actuality they have no breast, so I win again!
>>146581209Wrong, it’s task force X meets Gate, meets parahumans, meets hunter x hunter.Basically super soldier black ops units that are a genre kitchen sink
>>146578729Wow it's almost as if the series is called "Helluva Boss" instead of "Imediate Murder Profesionals"
>>146581228It does feature hmofa, but it’s against the sex crazed degeneracy, basically imagine if a real anthro first heard a term furry, and they get disgusted by it.Yeah I know the social studies of science to know how they first encountered the human world, it ain’t pretty
>>146580698Hear me out tho
>>146578555What's pic related doing while everything is going on in hell?
>>146581253>"I've deemed your explanation, unsatisfactory."
>>146581263I want him as an 8th sin known as “apathy” the leader of the dark humans and human witches/warlocks!
>>146581277>those legsSatan skips leg day? Whoa what a fag.
As a Hazbinfag I'm jealous of Helluvachads, give us your animation budget
>>146581278Nah the human sin should be atilla imo.
>>146578555>My actual reaction to VassagoAll that fan hype and he's just another spanglish speaking burro. I wasn't expecting much but what the hell Viv why even bother besides to remind us Stolas exists one more time?
>>146581175Just watch Panty and Stocking S1 and jerk off waiting for Season 2 instead.
>>146581291Based!Despite human hellborns being lower tier than hellhounds or even higher tier with goetia in political scale.
>>146581346Habe him.be such a gigachad that other sins are affraid of him. The few ones that aren't is lucifer, lilith and charlie, probably.
>>146580987All these fuckers deserve to be torn apart by pic related
>>146581425Especially atilla? The ruler of apathy?
>>146581425
episode was comically bad and reminded me why I dropped the show in the first place, only watched that one because it seemed like it would be an actual plot episode and not more gay dramaturns out it was more gay dramaI genuinely do not understand what happened to this show in season 2. S1 was great and every episode was a joy, in comes S2 and everything is boring, the initial premise of assassinations is barely worthy of a B plot in one episode out of maybe 3, and everything has to be most trite family drama imaginable. It feels like an entirely different team is writing it.
>>146581443MF you've never played hoi4. You can zoom in
You just know whoever made the Spanish bird is a Three Caballeros fujo
>>146578684The entire scene felt like a petty schoolgirl drama party.Christ. Someone could have at least thrown a punch.
>>146578684>telling a ace/demisexual no one wants to fuck their assfucking lmao I also like how they tried to make the dipshit arousing for fat bastard fans by making him as gross as possible just because most fat fetishists tend to fall into the ace/demi spectrum but just winds up looking gross and unattractive because his design is a eyesore
>>146580318it's hilarious how that sounds exactly like how vivziepop is
*edit* my writing:>Asmodeus and Bee are over 10,000 years old>Best comeback they can give to Mammon about them fucking the lower class peons is "Get the fuck outta my site before I demolish your fucking retarded faggot skull you dicksmoking cocksocking nigger chink Jew!”
>>146578555I'd rather talk about how Skibidi Toilet won.
>>146581111going against quads by saying at being the most boring ass ship I've laid eyes upon.
>>146581729It amazes me how it evolved from an incredibly cringy meme video into a genuinely enjoyable YT show
>>146578555Isn't Lucifer can wipe floor with Satan because he is like celestial and Knowledge of God. How Satan is claiming he is along ruler of Hell if he isn't even fought in the war in heaven.
>>146581729>NuIndie scene got btfo'd by toilet brainrotGrim
>>146581281the barbell-styled accessory and big ass arms didn't tip you off?
>>146581425Pic related, he got betrayed too much.
>>146581799Lucifer is presumably out of everyone else's league in hell, but isn't much of a leader. He doesn't care about ruling anymore and spends all his time alone feeling sorry for himself or working on private projects.
>>146581799Lucifer's left the throne empty for who knows how long, as the arbiter of hellish law in his stead and patron diety of imps Satan has gotten a little too big for his britches and the other Sins don't find the hassle of correcting him worth the headache. I'm sure he'd fold like fresh laundry if Lucifer actually showed up and started throwing his weight around but as it is he's the effective ruler of Hell at least as far as the Hellborn are concerned.
>>146580239so does she have 2 pussies?
>>146581965Doubtful, nothing below the neck seems to be doubled. Her left and right labia probably don't match though, it's hard to say how much they'd differ aside from in color since her breasts look essentially the same.
>>146581799Lucifer is a cuck and Satan is the chad Literally everyone in hell sees Satan as the ruler because Lucifer sucks at his job as both king and a fatherHell chances are Satan was the one taking care of Charlie
>>146582072Chad is Michael, he is Power of God. Doomslayer from the book.
>>146580600She can generate food at will, she does it in s1 too.
>>146578555I'm glad they are making the bee tone her default colors, looks way better than the cotton candy shit.
>>146578555Holy shit, Kesha returned to voice her!?
>>146580987So the idea “the seven deadly sins all fit a distinct circus theme” is something Vivz decided to stray away from, right? The only two you can really see it with without forcing it are Mammon and Lu.
Do you think she wears the jacket during sex?
>>146578555Everyone honestly looked good.This was by far the best animated episode of the series.I was legit surprised at how well several scenes were animated.
>>146578699I agree with most of this.However, I thought the song was kinda meh.Started off kinda lame...it did finish strong though.
>>146578793Yeah a 100 years for them is probably like 6 months or some shit.Stolas basically got a slap on the wrist.
>>146578684>No one wants to fuck you!>immediately after show one of Envy heads showing interest in MammonCouldn't even stick to the bit.
>>146580239What Sin is she?...
>>146582522Envy.
>>146582522Who's the goat?
>>146582550Belphegor.
>>146582550Another deadly sin.Not sure which one.I assume "Sloth."She kept looking like she was falling asleep during the trial. So they were hinting at her being lazy.Just my guess.
>>146581799Lucifer is held back by the only thing more powerful than him:Copyright law.
>>146582554She cute
>>146580852>Doom Eternal
>>146580987I'm positively surprised, other Sins are underwhelming but Satan really feels like Satan
>>146581281He is Heavy of the team
>>146582361Leviathan is the freak show
>>146581723She literally did a ton to make indie animation a thing. Do you have no gratitude or are you a mindless leftist?
>>146582730He looks like a giant fucking dragon!Kinda hard to not make a giant dragon look intimidating.
>>146582863I like it a lot, it feels like the most faithful sin. Satan as a dragon is straight out of Revelation.
>>146581726My writing>Asmodeus and Bee are over 10,000 years old>Best comeback they can give to Mammon about them fucking the lower class peons is "Didn't you built entire harem of pleasure bots and even THEN had to lobotomize them enough so they would be willing to sleep with you?"
>>146582956Too wordy. Not that the original writing is much better.
It's shrimple>HellSpecial ED school >SatanTard wrangler>Other SinsTard wranglers with mental defects
>>146580034Funny because vivziepop confirmed in some interview that we will also see her side of the story eventually.
>>146582863It's not just looks but also characterization and role Other Sins are practically CEO and celebrities instead highest ranking hell royalty
>>146582361Satan is the strongman and Asmodeus looks vaguely circus like too though I dunno what he is supposed to be. Carnival barker maybe.
>>146583026>Asmodeus looks vaguely circus like too though I dunno what he is supposed to be. Carnival barker maybe.Magician
>>146582965>"Didn't your pleasure bots YOU build had to be lobotomized because they had too high standards?"That's better?
>>146583070>For my next trick I'm gonna split my beautiful assistant in half
>>146583072>"Says the guy banging an erotic toaster."You need to be snappier.
>>146583093So what does R63 Azzy say?
>>146583177Maybe she splits herself in half with a giant dildo idkI bet her voice is smooth like chocolate.
anyone feel like ozzie was afraid of satan?like the one that always talked firt was Bee instead of him to the point he shrugged Fizz message Maybe he is the weakest of the sins
>>146581900like helping his daughter with a special hotel!
>>146581710You are thinking way too hard into this anon. They made him gross because he's a fucking asshole.
>>146583302Sorry wrong pic
>>146583110I prefer idea of his robots still having to be lobotomized to even consider fucking him. None of them judge him for fucking a robot, but laugh at him for his own robots having to be downgraded to meet their standards.
>lucifer doesn't care about sinner>he also doesn't care about hellborn LOL?
>>146580034>>146582982The thing with Stella is, despite everything and how horrible she has been shown to be, there's still a pretty easy road to making her at least somewhat sympathetic.She was forced into an arranged marriage with the most spineless, whiny, ineffective character in the setting and she seems to be the only one to actually manage all their day-to-day responsibilities considering Stolas spends all his time too depressed to move or even interact with his daughter until Looloo Land, and when he does, he brings along his side piece imp that he's been cheating on her with - the societal equivalent of being a dogfucker in real life.The vast majority of her nastiness and mockery towards him often seems to stem from him being a pathetic loser - and the thing is, she isn't wrong. The show really goes out of its way to demonize her and make her as cartoonishly evil and stupid as possible, but absolutely nothing she ever says about Stolas is wrong, he just gets away with being a pathetic loser because he's one of the protagonists.Both her and her cousin, while being power hungry and manipulative, are completely correct in wanting to take power away from Stolas. He is a neglectful royal who ignores his duties and family in favor of sucking off Blitzo - and it was clear that even before he came along, Stolas was still a useless sad faggot. If you want to blame anyone, blame Paimon for forcing the marriage.
>>146583325He doesn't really care about anyone besides his daughter
Son of a bitch! They Striped stolis of all his power??! The fuck? An blitz does love him, hes just slow.
>>146583348ESL or retarded?
>>146583356Yes, obviously
>>146583325He has no reason to care about the Hellborn. They're the Sins' ilk, not a creation of himself or heaven. He has no attachment to them whatsoever, and Satan/The Goetia/etc. are both natural hellborn and outstandingly evil on average, which is also why he doesn't care about sinners.
>>146583325Lucifer is and always will be a cuck.
>>146583356Retarded. Any way, and what the hell? so lucifer is not the same guy as the lucifer in hazbin hotel? I thought they were the same guy. Is there another detention kinda thing going one here?
>>146580987that leviathan design fucking sucks
My headcanon is that Stolas met Vassago in his military days, both are princes after all
>>146583417FAGS!
>>146583373>He has no reason to care about the Hellbornhe literally did a speech about "our race" pretending he cared about the hellborn above the sinners
>>146583356>>146583364just got here, and just saw the new episode. Someone needs to brake all this down for me. Like im ESL or retarded. If Stolas is in fact a geisha, doesn't that make him immune to Lucifer and everyone else, arent the deity's outranking of angels?
>>146583385Lucifer is the same guy in Hazbin, which is why he can't show up. He's copyright blocked, amazon owns him.
>>146583385Satan and Lucifer are different entities even in the bible. Lucifer's throne is here in the back >>146578684, empty because he's lying around depressed in HH.This is ironically considering everything else, a surprisingly good adaptation of the biblical Satan, who was created to judge and test people.
>>146583110>>146583318Actually... I think I got it. More back and forth in this though:>Says the Demon who had to MAKE himself a harem.>HA! At least they are of highest quality compared to your filth!!>Didn't you have to lobotomize them?>FUCK YOU!>Oh Mamma Boi. Even as a sin of Lust I am not THAT desperate.
>>146583026Satan is just a cowboy. There’s a lot of history of cowboys performing in circuses, doing riding tricks, lasso tricks, trick shooting, and telling stories. But it’s no longer a recognizable association today. He’s a strong dude but he doesn’t look like a strongman act in particular.Asmodeus could pass for having a design that could fit a couple of different acts, but imo, he’s not immediately recognizable as a circus performer. Same with Bee and Belphegor and Satan even kinda Liv (though the above poster saying that she’s meant to be a freak has a good point). They all look like they can fit into other settings as well as or even better than a circus. I think if you want a group to look like they’re all circus performers, you should be able to look at their individual designs on their own and ask “okay, where’s the rest of the circus?”It was kind of a waste not having a trapeze artist type character because those costumes have a distinctive unmistakable look. But I also get why it wasn’t used because it doesn’t suit any of the seven deadly sins theme that well. At the end of the day I just think it’s a forced idea that doesn’t work that great.
>>146583456I don't really get the circus aesthetic anyway, it's a bit out of left field and feels uninspired.
>>146583205>"And now, I'll split my assistant's pelvis in half!">Fem!Azzy basically somersaults from her balcony, completely commando, falling fast straight down onto your dick.>She lands in a perfect straddle and with a wet pop, pulls herself off to a breathy "Ta-daaa~!">She's panting heavily, yet nobody heard the snap of your hips as she finished her routine.
>>146583456I say Strongman primarily because his jacket lapel pins make up a large barbell and plates, but he could just be a fusion of multiple archetypes. The "animal tamer" aspect of Bee came off much better in this episode's costuming at least. She does look like her role here, which is more than I can say for Belphegor, who I can't parse from a circus standpoint.
yes YEEES someone draw my idea lmao
>>146583512Lel.Nice.
Why does Vivzie keep pushing Blitzo so hard, he so fucking unlikable, would it kill her to make him a 1% less of a total niggerfaggot?The whole fucking hell is less cunty than he is
>>146583439Ooooh, I do forget about copyright's.Then CAN they strip him? In the books is that like a thing. Thought all those deity's were like, untouchable.
>>146583484Oh yeah, Bee’s outfit is a fuck of a lot more circussy now. But since she was introduced as and gives off the vibes of kind of more of a pop star, it kinda messes with it and now I think she feels like she’s wearing a Lady Gaga avant garde stage outfit.
>>146583484Best thing I can give to Belphegor circus wise is that she looks like a part of the menagerie. Like she’s a llama or camel or maybe the horse in the equestrian act. But in a whole world of furries she doesn’t stick out as that role.
>>146583429The Morningstar race.
>>146583630A llama? She's supposed to be DEAD!
>>146583329this, being stuck married to such an utter faggot like Stolas would have me insulting him and plotting his death too. the bedroom is probably unspeakably dead too.
>>146583698She basically had to squeeze the nut out of him like a dried out orange to get Octavia.
>>146582139in the Hellaverse he's probably an angel twink that gets fucked in the ass regularly so who fucking cares
>>146583440okay, yeah about they are different, what im saying is does he really have the rank to strip Stolas?
>>146583714With Viv writing? Yeah probably. The actual Satan is a jobber though.
>>146583329>completely correct in wanting to take power away from Stolaswhy are you pretending like its good intentions lmao also Stella only cares about hating Stolas , redeeming her is the easiest thing ever , just make her connect with Via and her situation being a reflect of the same shit she suffered thanks to the goetia system. Make Andrealphus a 100% corrupted character.
>>146583715Sins are above Goetia. Yes.
Then why are all the IMP's hating on Stolis, cant they tell that love was a real factor in there?
>>146583740>also Stella only cares about hating Stolas , redeeming her is the easiest thing ever , just make her connect with Via and her situation being a reflect of the same shit she suffered thanks to the goetia system. Make Andrealphus a 100% corrupted character.This. Stella just needs to be shown to care about Octavia and Blitz will not pull the trigger on her.Also blame Paimon. Arranged marriages fucking suck for everyone involved.
my only real question is what is Andre going to do when Via finally turns 18, he won't even get to enjoy his new position for long (if at all, assuming there might be paperwork and other things involved)
>>146583805>Andre plots to kill Octavia>Stella finds out and flips outCould that be how she redeems herself?
>>146583805Andre will probably plan to off Via and Stella won't hear of it
>>146583810no, she will never redeem herself, shes the one who put out the hit on Octavia's dad.
>>146583836If Stella does end up finding out and has no problem with it then I'm writing Viv off even more than I already have.
>Octavia? dead by S3>Stella? Just a pawn >Me?Prince Andrelphus
>>146583810>>146583814I didn't realize how much I needed a fic with this premise. >Andre casually tells Stella that as Via is turning 18 next week, we have to kill her first>Stella freaks the fuck out, but realizes she can't stop it herself>goes to IMP for help>their fucking faces when
>>146583810>>146583836she ONLY hates Stolas , doesn't want power makes sense sacrificing herself for her daughter after they spend time together
>>146583805Either he’s gonna spend the next year or whatever doing his best to win her over so that she willingly relinquishes all of her power to him and becomes his minion. With the best case scenario that she’ll help him off her own dad sometime in the next hundred years. OR he’s planning to kill her. Probably he’s gonna try plan A and then kill her as a plan B if he fails. Or maybe he’ll even just axe her as soon as her use runs out after plan A works, just to be safe.
>>146582598Patron demon of sloth and clever inventions.
>>146583909Also depicted on a toilet.
>>146583924Hey, taking a dump on company time is prime sloth.
>>146583740I don't think their intentions are good, I just also don't think they are in the wrong for doing it.It's like killing Epstein solely because you thought he looked like a smug faggot. Your reasons for doing it aren't great, but at the end of the day it's a net gain for humanity.
>google "stella redemption">all the top results are redditors seething about the idea and arguing it will never happen and SHOULD never happenFor a show supposedly about shades of gray and how everyone here are shitty people, they really can't stand the idea, huh?
>>146583977I would've just made Belphegor into a horned Yagrum Bagarn. Just have the dude be a fat inventor with IBS that's glued to a mobile toilet.
>>146584004Hazbin Hotel was pitched as that and then never delivered.
>>146584004people seethe when you point out how both are the victims here thank to the goetia system. Viv already said she is a tragic villain and we will know her backstory However Stella is also responsible for trying to kill the dude instead of you know , divorcing him first.
which one of you cheeky kids made this thread on /x/? >>>/x/39330862
>>146584004Because if she is not 100% evil then that means le wholesome Stolitz ship is not 100% in the right and we can't have that. I hate that too. It's basically a show made for 12 year olds.
>>146584019>More fatshitKill yourself
Fuck you Amazon
>>146584081Settle down coomer, fatasses are funny as shit and demons are the cosmos' clowns.
>>146584042>Viv already said she is a tragic villain and we will know her backstoryDesperately hoping she sticks to that and we get a Stella episode.>However Stella is also responsible for trying to kill the dude instead of you know , divorcing him first.Oh yeah for sure, that's really fucked up. I just want her to be shown to be nuanced and have lines she's not willing to cross (like hurting Octavia).>>146584050Funnily enough I like Stolitz. I just also think it's shitty to cheat on your wife. Obviously what Stolas SHOULD have done if he were a mature adult is told Stella "Okay, neither of us love the other, we got forced into this shitty marriage. I'll go fuck the guys I like, you go do that too, and we just keep up appearances publicly."
season 3 will feature an episode where stolas' hyper-bloodthirsty brother andras tells him to stop being a fucking pussy and admit he gets a hard on from how taboo it is to fuck lowly impsmy brother's uncle is spindlehorse, it's true
>>146583924You know, Sloth only having motivation insofar as enabling himself to be even lazier makes sense and feels kinda novel.
>>146578555She will never be a good character design
>>146581097Thanks for reminding me of this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXf-MSXw30U
>>146584004Holy shit you weren't kidding. Look at the comments lmaohttps://old.reddit.com/r/HelluvaBoss/comments/1h2rb5o/stella_you_fucking_bitch_spoiler/
>>146584371It’s like when you have one of those criminals that leads a double life in order to avoid getting a real job, but the effort to maintain the ruse is much greater than just living honestly.
The amount of callbacks of this episode was insane
>>146584004this is a reality the show has brought up. Look at valentino in HH nobody wants him saved saved a few radicals. They choose their favorites and all else can burn.
>>146584479>pick their favorites and fuck everyone elsejust like my parents
>>146584479>Look at valentino in HH nobody wants him savedGOOD
>>146584552>tfw show about redemption has an entire audience just here for sexymans and furry women
>>146584552Yeah like that
>>146584572I'd be here for more but Viv can't write.
>>146584479>They choose their favorites and all else can burn.Just like Heaven/angels but they're supposed to be the "bad guys" for that.
>>146584572I actually like a lot of the designs both as smut and for casual viewing but like >>146584602 said there really isn't much else here. There definitely COULD be something special done with the ip one day but as long as the current creative team is in charge jerking off to owl twinks and wolf tits is all we have
>>146580318>be an unrepentant assholethat is changning, hence all the people who were in Blitz's defense
>>146583469I think it comes down to an elaborate play-on-words from using the Dante's Inferno interpretation of hell >hell has rings (often depicted as tiered in a cone-shape, kinda like a tent)>"ring" in latin/greek is "Circus", and where the word for a carnival circus comes from>the center stage of a circus tent is called the ring>Lucifer is the master of the rings of hell>Owner/director of a circus is called the Ringmaster>Lucifer is the Ringmaster, ergo the rest of the demons/sins are modelled after other acts that obey the ringmaster
>>146580318>unrepentant What's this take? Verbally he is still kind of an asshole sometimes but throughout this season he's generally tried to make amends with a lot of people to varying degrees of success and has shown remorse for his actions.He isn't a good person but he isn't unrepentant.
>>146581551>turns out it was more gay dramaI knew there were gonna be posts like this lmfao, I like everything about the show, but as soon as the song hit I figured 3 nonstop episodes of Stollas would make ppl eyeroll>>146582446Agreed, this ep was fancy, when's the next ep? or was this the finale and we have to wait 2 years nowAlso, ppls no spoilers but does Lucifer actually appear in Hazbin yet? I haven't seen the Amazon stuff yet
>>146584752Yeah he's in several episodes.
There is a hope Stella revels to her brother at least
>>146581799We're gonna have to wait for more lore, idk how true this comment is but it is true Oz and Bee reacted to that line, we just don't know if their look was >Oh yeah this guy who's never hear eyerollor>Here we again with Satan's rantCould be Lucy might have a pivotal role later on
>>146584778*rebels
>>146584803viv comment is RETARDED because Luci just doesn't matter in the HB story because Amazon have his custody.
>>146584813Do they? the rest of the comments are arguing about that, some ppl say Amazon owns the character, others say Viv still owns the charactersI'm leaning a bit towards creator owned, I've never heard anything about Amazon owning Invincible, just the show and the rights to distribute
>hello everyone, i'm your BITCH
>>146584778What's this from?
>>146584920the new episode?
>>146584936damn i feel retarded
when's vivzie introducing EL HERMANO
>>146585059Gay ass design
>>146585062>gay designsir this is gay furry hell
>>146585076Rope yourself
>>146578555>>146578617Honestly her 19th century general outfit makes sense given she was suppose to be second in command of the traitor angels during the war in Heaven. But I dunno if Vivz knew that or just though giving her an outfit like that was neat, she does have a thing with late 19th centruy and early 20th century outfits after all.
>>146585099>99nice try tzeentch nerd
>>146585099What is wrong with you he's factually correct
>>146579400Honestly characters like Bee dont deserve to be given the roles of supremly evil beings like Baal, not because "they arent worthy of it" but because their just to nice and alright people that the shouldnt be associated with it. If this version of Beelzebub knew that a buncha people in the Levant were worshipping her thousands of years ago and killing a shit ton of babies in her name she'd probably cry for days.
>>146580239Mammon may be an a Australian in accent, but he is an Austrian in spirit.
>>146585126Gay ass series btw
>>146585159Thought that was Moloch?But yeah Bee should've been Beelzebub's daughter.
>>146580987Poor Bee got demoted from Lucifers Second in Command, no wonder she's in a drunk party girl phase.
>>146581425NGL he probably is just super disappointed in them but still views them as his children. Remember when he let Lucifer re-enter Heaven so Lucifer and God could make a bet on if Job would stay faithful? God couldve obliterated him then and there. Hell, him banishing them to Hell was already a show of mercy as opposed to just erasing them.
>>146581291Based Scourge of God appreciator. Dude literally larped as the four hoursemen of the Apocalypse
>>146585263>Remember when he let Lucifer re-enter Heaven so Lucifer and God could make a bet on if Job would stay faithful?No, because that was Satan who was one of God's angels. Lucifer is something else.
Satan is kinoAlso Bel/Leviathan hating the lower class is cool
>>146583325He is to busy being Hell's Walt Disney and having an obsession with ducks equal to Merasmus
>>146585263Per the other anon, Satan is different and was created by God as a judge - which could be fitting enough to the Satan in this universe actually considering he literally is one, but anyway in the bible Satan himself is not evil, just doing his job and testing people's faith.Now with regards to Lucifer, it's been often postulated that God would allow fallen angels back into his grace if they actually repented and embraced him - but Lucifer is prideful and would never do that.
>>146585203Baal and Moloch were in a fierce competition on who could get the stupid Caananites to kill more babies in their name. Also Baal in their language means something akin to "Lord" or "God" and there are many Baals in their pantheon. The Baal we associate with Beelzebub nowadays is Baal Zebub, which translastes to "Lord of the Flies" or "God of the Flies"
>>146585350>lord of the flies>flies gather around shit>their god is basically a giant turd
>>146585159>supremly evil beingsCan ANY Viv character qualify as that?
>>146585297So technically, not only imps are now higher class, but also humans too? Interesting!
>>146585381Yeah Ol' Zebub really aint a looker these days
>>146585395No, the most "evil" of the sins is Mammon and his just a capitalist Aussie cunt and a troll. But he really isnt evil, just a dick. That actual Mammon has the people who are damned to his ring as his slaves for an enterinty
>>146585399Its funny because his depiction in Paradise Lost has him be a sexy fuckboy like Lucifer. This is what millennia in Hell does to a motherfucker
>>146585458I mean PL does end with them all becoming snake monsters
Hell really is the home for infinite losers.
>>146585399>>146585458I still think the idea of Baal being a drunken burn-out angel boomer type and the father of Bee after he fucked the Three-headed warden of Hell Cerebus is a funny idea. Since Baal is to much of a gluttonous and depressed alcoholic that reminisces about the "glory days" his daughter basically has to do his job for him. This would also be a pretty decent explination for why Bee thinks gluttony should be done in modesty. Because she's seen what uncontroled gluttony did to her dad.
>>146580987Wait, who is the demon of Wrath?
>>146585530Satan
>>146585530In Vivzie Lore its Satan who is the lord of Wrath. Its usually a tossup between Astaroth and Satan on who is the king of angry in modern media with demons
>>146578555>Satan:YOU DARE TELL ME HOW TO PUNISH>Andrealphus: umm,akshually>Satan: Yes ma'amSatan is a joke and only gets a pass because he is hot,actually that entire segment is retarded
>>146585398Humans have always been higher than most demons.
>>146585524Love that idea.
>>146585559I think its more because Satan is classist. He gets mad at an imp (his creations and minions btw) for talking back to him and giving HIM suggestions. But when Andrealphus, who is a fellow royal does it he actually lets him say his piece.
>>146585559or maybe he only listen to goetia? to the point he gave Stolas the equivalent of the dunce hat
Honestly, the whole fucking 'ebin motherfuckers get erased' is such a cop out by the writer. If you REALLY don't want to show them or smth, then it would be way better to create some super hell/prison for em
>>146585524"I am the commander the fallen against God! I am the Morningstar's right hand! I am the Lord of Death and Decay!""Okay dad lets get you back to bed"
>>146585485HELL IS FOREVER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
>>146585567Man I honestly get why people like Striker are so salty about the hierarchy. Hellborn like Imps and Hellhounds had no chances, they were born into Hell and are forced to live there all their lives. But the human sinners who lived in the moral world lived their lives and are sent here as a punishment for their degeneracy. But they actually get to live better lives and have more power, authority, and higher social ranking than native hellborn? Sure they deal with a yearly extermination but Hell seems more like a reward for their awful behavior than a punishment.
I honestly did not expect them to make Satan Elvis but I actually really like it
>>146580987>then there followed approximately one minute of all of the sins individually claiming that they were the law
>>146585689Actually makes sense. Satan is the King of the Wrath ring, which is very clearly based on the Southern US. Elvis was a Southern boy and he was The King.
>>146585673Plus the princess of hell is making it her personal mission to stop that one downside sinners have to deal with, while not giving a fuck about hellborn.
>>146585620>>146585524your drawing too much from the restrictions of human life to make the characters relatable. It would work as a skit but not a show. Think more religious.
>>146585707>"Ah-huh huh huh. I'm the King of Rock n' Roll baby!" >"You're boyfriend aint nothin' but a hound dog Bee.">*starts gyrating his hips*
>>146585736Well its kinda hard to properly depict the thoughs and mentality of an angel, fallen or otherwise. Our little monkey brains cant to it justice.
>>146585736Nah, he's doing just fine. Fits perfectly with Viv's style.
>>146578555would like some b/c plot bits about Bee and her relationship to the lower class. Specifically the hell hounds her interaction with them was low key creepy in s1e8. I also want a bit about what I assume is thousands of lovers and partners over the millennia. A bit of melancholy and pessimism would do well to deepen her character.
>>146585736To be fair hazbin and helluva demons are just humans with superpowers mentally and more akin to pagan gods in behavior than biblical demons.
>>146585760this is the great challenge of writing these kinds of characters.I have not many solutions myself.
>>146585813Expecting too much of Viv.
>>146585767>>146585824maybe
>>146585827You're a low IQ individual.
>>146585813Since its clear Satan made imps, Bee very very likley made hellhounds, and is now fucking one of her own "kids". Also despite being seemingly one of the nicest and most caring of the sins, it looks like she doesnt do much for the hellhounds outside her ring. For example the pound Loona was in was in Pride and the Hellhounds there clearly look like they live shitty lives. She is like the ruler of a country that treats her people to breads and circuses to appease them, but doesnt really do much for her people who live in the neighboring countries and are treated like shit there.
This character is the definition of overdesigned. 0/10, would not fuck
>>146585846
>>146585873More for me.
>>146585864woah good pointswe need more bee development!
>>146585827The closest ive seen writting properly depicting and characterizing the truly demonic and unholy is in 40k writtings. But even then its not perfect.
>>146585892Wait I minute, arent you that one guy in the Total War threads on /vg/?
>canon Bondage Loonathis is going to have so much porn!
>>146585895yeah chaos is pretty cool that way but its universe is atheistic so you can't directly apply the themes from it to something like HH which clearly has a God. The gods of chaos are "hollow" and are products of creatures rather than coming from a divine source.
>>146584724Man, even the lore is overdesigned and messy.
>>146585908
>>146585673To an extent, it's a bit of a biologically enforced meritocracy more than just a class system. The Goetia, Sins, and Sinners/Overlords all seem to have magical occult powers inherent to them that make them objectively stronger and more powerful than the Hellborn in nearly every way. Whether it's Stolas and his owl form and whatever he did to the DHORKs, Andrealphus with his ice powers, Bee and Mammon and their gigantic forms, or the likes of Vox and Valentino with the former's control over electricity and the latter's weird hypnotic smoke.Strictly speaking, Hell IS a caste system, but it's dictated entirely by power and the nobles born into noble families are also born with real, tangible supernatural powers - as are the Sinners with powers based on what they did wrong in life. Satan and the others are assholes about it but they are correct in that Imps have no power in a very literal sense.
>>146585955unlike human hierarchies the royals have real tangible power over others. Another really alien theme to explore
>>146585941As a dipshit Khorne fan who has played like 20 Skarbrand games I am obligated to tell you to eat shit and castrate yourself
>>146585873You could say that her design is overindulgent.
>>146586002Based.
>>146586002kek thanks I try to keep each thread I am in focused on its subject while being friendly.
>>146586026Attention seeking loser.
>>146586002Somebody should make a parody of the episode where Satan talks and behaves like Skarbrand, specifically TTS Skarbrandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATDVjUqbXJA
>>146585567>Satan presides over Wrath and the imps>Beelzebub presides over the Gluttony ring and the next caste up, the hell hounds>Leviathan presides over Envy and the possessor demons/infestor demons, who are hell born and another caste upAnd this is where the pattern starts to break>Asmodeus presides over Lust and the succubi, who, for some reason, are in the same hell born caste level as the possessors/infestors>Belphegor presides over Sloth and the candleheads. Again, another hellborn race on the same level as succubi and possessors>same deal with Mammon, Greed>finally the pattern resumes and Lucifer, ruler of Pride, is in charge of the sinners, moving up another caste>but Lucifer is also in charge of everyone else in Hell, including his fellow sins>none of the seven deadly sins are particularly responsible for the goetia, those guys are just kinda thereIt coulda been neat if every ring and race presiding in said ring were associated with another caste
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>>146586103Case in point, kys namefag
I honestly am pretty surprised how democratic Hell is, at least with its Jury. You would think having two sins against the execution would hold more merit than it does. I guess Satan and Mammon voting for the execution and all of the Goetias as well was the tie breaker. I dont think Belphagor and Levithan even voted or either side.
>>146586080he's on record as a reddit atheist did you really expect anything less
>>146585955>and the latter's weird hypnotic smoke.It's his moth pheromones
>>146586132>reddit edgelord is a 40kfag as well as a loltheistI'm shocked.
>>146586089Would make the need for a life coach that helps him with anger issues make more sense ngl
>>146586154Hey dont lump in all of us with the reddit atheists and sigmarxism retards. Those are mainly tabletopfags
>>146578555>It's another Gay Imp and Owl Angst episode
Remember when people theorized Satan would be a patron and rptoector of the imps in his own ring (Wrath)
>>146578795Gluttony can have manners and enjoy it. Greed simply consumes and isn't limited to just monetary stuff
>>146586175That's fair, some of you are alright.
>>146585673>But the human sinners who lived in the moral world lived their lives and are sent here as a punishment for their degeneracy. But they actually get to live better lives and have more power, authority, and higher social ranking than native hellborn?Probably because they bring varied and worldly experience with them. Hellborn probably can't help be what they are and Hell would not be making any advancements without a regular influx of Humans bringing their knowledge, experience and skills with them.
Did I miss a line of information?>Andre tells to everyone that Blizto stole and used the book (also pointing out that Andre doesn't have the same the same position of power as Stolas)>Blitzo doesn't have the book now.>But the authorities arrest him>Evidently, they don't find the book.>They don't bother to ask Stolas if he has the book.>But the trial takes place anyway.
>>146586226Fair, I mean Vivz Hell basically absorbs and copys most culture and technology made by humans. The Sinners are kinda like a class of intelligentsia form a foreign country that you bring over to uplift your land. I doubt thse thousands year old demon lords are known much for innovation and development. They'd probably have hell stuck in the demonic Middle Ages without sinners. If Stolas was actually anything like his name sake and did his job he'd hypothetically be at the forefront of demonic research and development. But since that is not the case the Sinners seem to be what fills the void for a skilled and knowledgeable middle class.
>>146578555>Volunteers to be executed in the place of his criminal gay lover while his teenage daughter watches and cries at homeWow, Stolas really is a shitty father. We're supposed to feel bad for this guy? Vivziepop and her fags, I swear to god.
Im not the only one who found Octavia's hoot crying cute right?
>>146586236Basically just comes down to the caste system and imps being bottom tier. A Goetia sounded the alarm so they were brought in. Even the parrot Goetia called bullshit on the whole thing as Stolas wasn't there to speak up.
>>146586236Blitzo doesn’t need to have the book right now, his crime was having used it at all in the past. Which he fully admits to having done.
>>146584687>>146584732He's had several times when he's felt very sad about being his own worst enemy and fucking up everything around him. But every time he's gone right back to doing the same shit. That's actually what irritates me about this episode. After two whole episodes of him being shown to fully understand how he fucked up with Stolas and how he can fix it he doesn't. It just conveniently gets sidestepped again (and possibly forever) by Stolas coming to save him and becoming dependent on him as a result. The only relationship he's managed to repair was with Fizz. And that was only possible because they'd both been lied to and so neither of them were at any fault at all. He has yet to show any progress in actually trying to fix his mistakes instead of just crying about them to uninvolved parties, ignoring them, or lashing out.
>>146586310It was adorable.
>>146586299Everyone is bad in the situation and Octavia is just caught in the middle of it. Stolas at least actually cares about her and was trying to save a guy he loved. He also generally wasn't in a great place mentally overall.The mother is just a power grabbing shrew who doesn't seem to give an actual fuck about her kid aside from heir status
>>146586226Sinners also have actual magic powers that Hellborn below the Goetia don't like how Vox can warp through cables and electrical currents. They also have the potential for infinite power growth based on soul contracts to where a strong enough Overlord could arguably beat a Goetia.
>>146583177>>146583205When's this artist gonna make an R63 Bee? Preferably in the new outfit?
>>146586367>t. Stolas R. Goetia
>>146586409>Stolas was raped by three prison guards in a detroit prison in the summer of 2022How can they keep getting away with it?
>>146586341Blitzo was fully ready to accept responsibility though and did not want Stolas to show up and take his place. While Stolas showing up is a convenient plot contrivance, it does not make Blitzo suddenly not repentant or undo his development.I agree it's dumb, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's on Blitzo as a character.
Octavia contiunes to be the only character I actually feel bad for. Just a regular (by hell standards) girl stuck dealing with all this bullshit. If she grows up to be a iron fisted ruler I wouldnt be surprised
>>146586456Agreed. Octavia has been through enough, man.
>>146582860I think people prefer not being associated with her but ok
>>146586438It's not on him directly, but it does deny him any opportunity to show that he's actually changed. That's why I mentioned the Fizz thing. Both would have been great opportunities for him to have started acting on his now many times repeated lessons. But then the plot saves him from having to do so. Which combined with him falling back into the same behaviors ends up meaning that he didn't really change.We'll obviously have to wait and see if that's the case again. But my suspicion is that Stolas being mindbroken over realizing he did exactly what he promised Octavia he would never do will be used to give Blitz a road to redemption and a happy relationship that jumps right past him ever having to deal with his own problems head on.
>>146586693Like suckling a bottle of honey
>>146586769Hot... what about her breast milk? Paws?
>>146581425>the kind of heavy breathing mad that makes a dude say "SKY DAD SHOULD RIP THEM ALL TO PIECES REEEE"take your pills, say your prayers, pinch one off and chill.
>>146586798Don't you have some 'religious trauma' to whine about, fedoracuck?
>>146586814I think you might be projecting, Choirboy Jimmy.
>>146586841>no uThought you guys were supposed to be good at arguing?
>>146586850why hold an unsinkable duck underwater?
>>146586869Is that why you're so retarded, momma held you underwater and chickened out halfway through?
>>146586787Most of her body probably smells and tastes like cotton candy but her tits and privates are honey flavored. She has a very literal honey glazed donut
>>146586882
>>146586905Her outfits have a boob window for easy huffing access.
>>146586850Its probably the same dude arguing with himself lol
>>146586915I accept your concession.
>>146586931
>>146586957Congrats on your conversion!
>>146586406Hell if I know.Speaking of rule 63, I have business to attend to.>>146586456Honestly, yeah. Octavia really needs a break. >>146586549>Loona is actually pretty light>Meaning you can easily princess carry hery e s
>>146586952ngl since it turns out Lilith is a shit wife Lucifer should just fuck his female counterpart
>>146586967congratulations accepted!
>>146586989>Speaking of rule 63, I have business to attend to.You don't say.
>>146586996I want more helltaker crossovers, but sadly the two series never lined up at the right time.
>>146587018I do say.
>>146585864>Satan>>>Imps>Bee>>>Hellhounds>Leviathan>>>whatever those fish twin demons from the Fiz episode were, presumably Gonna go out on a limb and say Mammon wouldn't bother to create any underlings as that would mean he'd have to actually share something. What would Oz and Belgephor have made, if we've even seen them?
>>146587195Bee is such a cutie, man. That gold is a good look for her, I hope it's her default.
>>146584665https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSfjM9d5AUcompletely unrelated but i'm literally unable to read the words "barrel of crude oil" and not this of this stupid fucking video, which i found through a YTP
>>146584863The deal is very likely that the Character can't show up in Helluva until A24 is done using the character in Hazbin. We'll see how that goes considering the Hazbin Season 2 leaks...
I didn't notice until rewatch that Satan's conscience/secretary demon flips back between good and evil constantly.
>>146587400I interpret that he's happy that Satan is going for a more calm and collected judgement than being enraged. Just cause he wants him to control his anger doesnt mean he wants em to be a nice guy.
The classism stuff is kind of weakApart from Striker disliking the hierarchy and Blitz’s power dynamic with Stolas have we ACTUALLY seen a ton of discontent among the imps or hellhounds? Millie and moxie were able to afford and gain access to an elite restaurant run by Ozzie himself despite being imps Ozzie is banging an imp publicly Blitz owns his own business, dated a higher caste demon pop star. The Hellhounds, ostensibly the lowest and most oppressed denizens have a patron Demon Lord who actually likes and cares about them(Bee), and she’s openly dating one. The mass oppression narrative kind of came out nowhere, and it relies too much on Blitz’s unbalanced romance with Stolas, an inherently weak pillar since they actively love each other. It’s not like Stolas has abused him.
>>146587440If we say more uglier and serious sides to it like how douchy sins like Mammon treats his subjects like slaves then the whole classism angle would hold more ground. But vivz thinks classism is rich people being meanies
oh frick I just saw what happened to that snake guy from helluvaboss what a tweest good for him
>>146587473I think the major problem is that she’s taking the (very American-centric) route of trying to combine class and race as the same thing and it’s muddying the whole message.Blitz is a middle class business owner, nobody realistically thinks less of him due to his current class. They dislike him for being an imp. Her message is more about racism than anything else despite what she’s intending. I would also bring up Crim, who commands a criminal mafia where he holds authority over and allegiance from biologically superior demons Compare this to an actual caste system like in medieval India where it was literally illegal to improve your lot in life. We were told Hell has a caste system but we are constantly given examples of people who break that system with no real consequences. Why don’t the hell police go after Crim? Does nobody in Hell take issue with Charlie being romantically involved with Vaggie? Etc
>>146582522The sin of having 2 pussies
>>146587623>Uncle Stolas you need to KILL yourself
>>146586549>all fluff
>>146578555So what exactly did Stolas do that is oh so wrong? According to the public story Stolas used an imp ordered that imp to use the grimoire to kill humans for money. And? I just don't see the so called problem.Doesn't help that Stolas would not benefit because Goetia characters from this show don't benefit from trespassing to the world of the living and doing stuff unlike demons who directly answer to the Deadly Sins like Succubuses who represent Lust. In fact the one time we saw Stolas crossing into the living world entirely on his own to be summoned he was invisible he was talking about cake and none of the human cultists were paying attention to his words so he was invisible and mute as the humans could not hear his words.I just don't comprehend how Stolas' "confessed" crime is in any way a scandal or negative. It all feels sloppy, confusing, and contrived and whatever it's a huge BLEH.
>>146584665>posting the edit >>146587697Not even Stolas is allowed to let anyone use his book
lmao, it's like a reference to that 4chan post complaining about the show being similar to a fujo fanfic
>>146587440And Moxxie and Millie weren't even the only imps to get reservations at Ozzie's. And Wally is proof that Blitz isn't the only imp to manage to be a decently well connected entrepreneur. And Blitz always gets in his own head and thinks he's not good enough for other people even if they're not royalty, so it can't even really be said that the class disparity is what caused issues between him and Stolas. Also, the original voice of discontent over imp treatment is the worst race traitor of them all.The classism/racism stuff just outright doesn't work.
>>146582588You do know that Lucifer is a public domain character, right? All Viv needs to do is have Lucifer alter his design a bit and before you say "But Lucifer's ability to change forms is not public domain yet!" It's been public domain since before any of were born.So grabbed Hazbin Lucifer and change his design to be "legally distinct" and Amazon can't touch Viv. And even if they try Viv has the upper hand because it's public knowledge she is the one who created these adaptations of these public domain characters given that Viv did something most creators never do she NURTURED a fandom before actually making her animated pilots. The smartest thing Viv ever did and sadly she won't use it as a trump card. Enough said.You don't get Lucifer because Viv LIKES getting fucked by a corporation. Given how fat she is that's the only fucking she will ever get because no man wants a fat toxic idiot bitch.
>>146587821>You don't get Lucifer because Viv LIKES getting fucked by a corporation. Given how fat she is that's the only fucking she will ever get because no man wants a fat toxic idiot bitch.You're the funny guy, right?
>>146587821She doesn't even need to change his design since amazon or a24 disallowing her from doing a cameo with her own character would earn them an entirely justified hate mob. So it really is just viv being a good little servant that prevents him showing up.
>>146587440You can see imps being pets for the goetia
>>146587440Stolas got a slap on the wrist for a crime that Blitzø was going to be executed for.
>>146587821The problem is that viv the hack wants to be the both shows conectedShe can use a different desing for lucifer if she wants to fuck Amazon
>>146586152Hootgame... Romanceable Loona...
>>146587899Or maybe she cares about the sparkle dog after reading the storyMaybe she is a furry
>>146587926God I wish.
>>146582467The song sounded very much like Jack's Lament from Nightmare before Christmas.
>>146587916Yes, the entire episode harped on how classist/racist hell is. But the point is that this element has been so weak and inconsistent up to this point that all of a sudden acting like hell is on the verge of a race war is extremely jarring. Stolas' reaction to not being executed is supposed to show how clueless he is about his status. But his ignorance is perfectly sensible from someone who existed in the previous episodes and was then teleported to the seemingly alternate universe that this one takes place in.
>>146587697I was in the same boatI think the general gist is, Stolas can't just go to the mortal realm whenever there's rules to follow especially as a goetia and I think the demon hunters is kinda proof of why those rules exist. Viv hell is following Faust Dante hell with a dash of Solomon demonology, contracts are soul binding, and there's a hierarchy. So Stolas admits he's been letting his imp go to Earth all willynilly and worse, his song purposely made him look much more unapologetic about it all, hence why the imps are throwing trash at him now, especially since he's not protected anymore.
do you think we're ever going to see an angel-demon hybrid in hellaverse at some point?
>>146588264Doesn't Lucifer somewhat count?
>>146588276Lucifer is still an angel, even if he's a fallen one.
>>146588264We haven’t even seen a hellhound hybrid
>>146588276he's a mentally cucked angel, not a literal demonized angel
>>146587944Uhh? Akshually viv will give cease and desist in hoot game and hound game, even if you didn’t profit or keep the characters the same
>>146578555>11 whole episodes in S2>not a single one of them is goodAnd people still watch this slop?
>>146588264Isn't that Charlie? She's half angel half demon.
>>146588403>literal demonized angel We have no information about how Falling actually works because Viv is a greedy cunt. As far as we know there is equal evidence for Lucifer *still being an angel*, and he was just gaslit by Heaven into thinking he’d “fallen” as there is for him actually being transformed into a demonViv won’t give us anything about how metaphysical mechanics works
>>146588264Is Charlie half-human or am I insaneIs she a nephilim?
>>146588446C&D my butthole
>>146588477>>146588485There’s some confusion about that. Sinners are supposed to be sterile/barren, they can’t naturally reproduce. Yet Lilith somehow had Charlie. Either she was still a human when Lucifer knocked her up or she became a real demon somehow in a category separate from the sinners
>>146588485Nephilim = angel father, human motherNo idea what the fuck Lilith is, but if she's a demon then she's not a nephilim.
>>146588519The chart says as much >>146585567
>>146588264I do
Time to do some summoning lads
>>146588309if "fallen angels" are a thing then shouldn't "ascended demons" exist aswell?
>>146587944Thinking...>Special quest chains for those you befriend where you manage to help solve (or at least help with) their problemsI assume some will just happen naturally, like with OctaviaProbablyWho knowsBut imagine...
So do all the Goetia have their castles in Pride? Or do they just live in whatever ring they want to live in. Andre’s weird first realm doesn’t seem to match Pride’s overall vibe
>>146588519I mean idk, isn't Lilith supposed to be the mother of monsters and demons in mythology? She WAS human but when she died I guess she might have been the first human who ever died. God probably hadn't made the rule yet that dead people turn into Sinners, He probably just changed Lilith into a demon outright, the first demon perhaps.
>>146588645Yeah, Charlie could count as an ascended demon considering she reject her demonic heritage and the violence inherent to hell
>>146587751That is amazing
>>146588645>if "fallen angels" are a thing then shouldn't "ascended demons" exist aswell?Serpentous is literally this.
>>146588645Maybe.It's important to remember that Jesus died on the cross specifically to redeem the sins of mankind. There's no messiah for demons, so redemption is an interesting theological quandary for them.
>>146588645In scripture? No. In fiction? Sure.
>>146588672Yeah but Serpentous was a human soul; it's another matter entirely for someone like Bee or Stolas for example, as they were always demons.
>>146588655What would Loona's be?
>>146588672Although maybe not. He did have to die a second time, which didn’t apply to Lucifer and Vaggie falling. So he’s one of the virtuous? Or whatever term we are using for the Heaven equivalent of former mortals. That’s what Peter called them.
>>146588093Hell is a social darwinistic shithole where the only people who enjoy anything close to a decent quality of life are either incredibly rich and/or powerful or have connections to the rich and powerful.Imps don't have the power of the Seven Deadly Sins or the Goetias, they don't have the nigh invulnerability of sinners, pretty much the only advantages they have are the same advantages all hellborn demons have: not being confined to the Pride ring and being exempt from Exterminations.Stolas suffers from the same problem Charlie has: having no personal experience of life in Hell as someone who isn't powerful enough to avoid consequences.
>>146588709any art that doesn't give loona a cookie is invalid, sorry
>>146588739Not everybody likes jerkin it to animal genitals like you do bro I'm sorry
>>146588716>as they were always demons Jury is still sort of out on that, or the origin of demons in general. Satan claims to pre date Lucifer, but Viv went on twitter and said “Lucifer has always been top dog” so who even knows.It’s very possible all the sins are Fallen, we just don’t know anything because Viv won’t share her lore with anyone
>>146588723Actively hanging out with her, Getting comfortable enough together to the point where she starts breaking out of her shellThis would involve the ferris wheel ride, yes
>>146588804I dig it. Earning her trust, getting her to warm up to you.
>>146584572I mean, duh.
>>146585567Pretty sure Vivs said Hellhounds are even below imps in hell hierarchy. They are basically the lowest ranking race in hell.
>>146588894The niggers of Viv hell.
Stolas getting only punshied for 100 years appeared to be a weak sentence since he's immortal. Which once again makes Vivs decision to make Stolas only around 35-37 years old kinda stupid. He should be at least several hundred years old already.
>>146588736Even this falls flat. For all their wealth and power, Stolas' entire family seem to have worse, more miserable, and more dangerous lives than imps like Millie's parents.
>>146588894I want a hellhound gf
>>146589009Enjoy you second clas citizen, doggo wife.
>>146588947It's a slap on the wrist punishment, it's a couple steps harsher than being sent home with a warning. The intended idea is that living among the plebs is going to show them how awful and disgusting they are so when he goes back to his previous station he learns that he shouldn't bother with them again.
>>146589009You and me both.
>>146589042probably a dude but if it's a girl i wanna fuck her real bad and i don't even wanna fuck loona
>>146589042Based
>>146588947>Which once again makes Vivs decision to make Stolas only around 35-37 years old kinda stupid. Listen, Stolas is my favorite HB character, but I'm 99% sure the main reason Viv made Stolas this young is so that he seems less predatory in the Stolitz relationship.Being an ancient fallen angel who's lived through wars and tons of relationships would give Stolas a bad image through his actions towards Blitz, even though IMO it would've made him more interesting.
>>146589086>probably a dude but if it's a girl i wanna fuck herI will fuck that hellhound regardless
>>146578555[To the tune of ‘Best Day Ever’]Me: it was the best episode EVVVERRRRR/co/: *While hugging their Stolas plushies and wearing their cute Stolitz shirts cheering* BEST EP EVERRRRMe: it was the best episode EVVVERRRRR/co/: *dancing cutely with their Stolitz shirts* BEST EP EVERRRR*Suddenly Viv walks in and /co/ runs to her.*One /co/ user, a gay trans man who was only mean because the people on the board who left peer pressured him: “Hey Viv, we’re sorry, we loved this episode.”*I cross my arms smirking.**Another /co/ user, also looks smug, she’s a long time /co/ user and a huge Stolitz fan.* “Reassured Vivafter this amazing episode we’ll make sure no one is an asshole about Helluva Boss Again.”*Another /co/ user walks up, a genderfluid person who used to hate Stolas, but now loves him and Stolitz after this episode.* “We now realize how wrong we were. Stolas is great and adorable character. We were just peer pressured.”*I nod and stand beside Viv. *Viv smiles.* “Fine, don’t do it again.” *She laughs.* “ Now which one of you fuckers want free merch? I have a cool new Stolas plush coming out. Oh! And a Stolitz Holiday mug!”*/co/ cheers.* “HOLY FUCK! YEEEEE! WE LOVE STOLITZ!”*One /co/ user runs to hug Viv.*Viv: “Oh, and we all have some cool guest”*Stolas shuffles in shyly with Blitzo trudging proudly by his side./co/ gasps and they all cheer as they see the very same ship they watch the show for, and beg for autographs.*
>>146589105Viv getting in her own way is gonna just keep happening.
>>146589138Sup Stolasfag, how's the transition going?
>>146589105People already flip out over him being a wealthy owl and Blitz being a poor imp. If he was also way older then they would outright call him a rapist.
>>146589178Can't let hell have any edge, can we?
>>146589178>over him being a wealthy owl and blitz being an imp The social dynamic is even more glaring with Bee and Vortex but I’ve never seen anyone scream and cry and hug their safety blanket over this being some kind of unfair relationship with a toxic power dynamic
>>146589204Bee doesn't really act her age, I guess it doesn't occur to most people.
>>146588276Fallen Angels are techincally what most demons are, but demon classifictions are funky. I dont think the Goetia were ever former angels.
>>146589234I've heard some say that demons are the disembodied spirits of nephilim that died in the flood.
>>146588739Imagine being so autistic you can't separate real animals from anthropomorphic ones.
Handjobs are just adult belly rubs.
>>146589192Him being older wouldn't even be edgy. It would just be perceived as such by the retards that already think that a standard star crossed lovers setup is the most abusive and evil thing ever. The actual edge avoidance is stuff like Ozzie being vehemently opposed to rape.
>>146589159That’s not me you fucktard. It’s someone trying to make me look bad if anything. Not every fag you find obnoxious is me- I am not your scapegoat like Stolas is Hell’s scapegoat.>>146589105I despise /co/, but the fact this episode not only made you all like Helluva boss, see it as the hell themed/Dante’s inferno masterpiece it is, enjoy Stolitz, ANNND finally show sympathy to Stolas? I feel as though I’ve won. I personally believe you’ve all loved him this whole time but pretending to hate him to spite me. It feels so amazing to be right.
>>146589341Stolasfag when are you going to let me tonguepunch your fart box? I just know it'll be like the dam breaking, all that delicious runoff from your rectum stinging my throat as I swallow each soupy chunk one after the other... I won't spill a drop out of those chapped lips.
>>146589323You are correct, anyone who truly believe Stolitz is toxic, when it’s not, it’s about an abused man being saved by a broken man, who in turn is saved by him. Fortunately, most of /co/ gets this now. However, I think anyone who hates Stolitz when a majority of /co/, especially gay men like you and I- love it, come from Tumblr’s ridiculous anti-blogs that try to make the most sad, emotional, and romantic show OF THIS DECADE look bad because they hate actual gay ships and think everything is problematic.They hate a sweet, innocent, gentle traumatized man like Stolas for the crime of being a rich cis man.
>>146589341Two autist losers at the same time, in the same place, only appearing together and never apart? Reaaally.
>>146588818Would be sweet...So let's see>Loona, M&M, Blitzo>Octavia, Stolas>Bee, TexWho else would you throw into the ring of possible friends?
>>146588480There's nothing in the lore that really supports this theory, but I always assumed that upon falling, the exposure to the environment will warp an angel gradually over a prolonged period. Hell particles or something like that.In the first episode the storybook shows that there were two primordial manifestations of Good and Evil. They could be the sources of demonic and angelic powers respectively. Their usage could affect the wielder's soul. A fallen angel could decide to draw powers from Evil as they can no longer draw from Good since they can't reach heaven or if they lost their halo. So maybe this is how an angel could "become" a demon.
>>146589142The only thing getting in the way is her sensibilities, why won't she let Stolas truly be the dirty birdy he is? He should be sliding white bird shits onto the floor, and letting his butlers lap up the pungent leavings. Blitzo should personally be sucking and guzzling every watery squirt out of his ass and thanking him for filling his stomach for a second go at digestion. If only Viv could be less of a prude, but alas she can't be perfect.
>>146589086No eyelashes, so probably a dude.Still would.He cute.
>>146589296And tongue enemas are nature's french kiss.
>>146589204Perfectly put. They hate Stolas because these dumb bitches miss the point. This ship is wholesome, not perfect but wholesome, and everyone here agrees now that this episode has come out, and I do mean, literally everyone. /co/ is compromised of gay men, and men who have abuse trauma- along with men who are MGTOW and are sick of lessers. Hence why we’re so defensive of Stolas and Stolitz. If I could punch people who hate Stolas or Stolitz, I would, but I don’t hit women, despite hating most of them- easily triggered Tumblr genderfuck or not…oh and KYS Scatlas.
>>146589447Not sure. That's basically everybody, right? Maybe you could end things on a... I guess neutral-ish ground with Verosika?
Honestly bring back the Beetism.
>>146589521>If I could punch people who hate Stolas or Stolitz, I would, but I don’t hit women, despite hating most of them- easily triggered Tumblr genderfuck or notKek, this reeks of FTM penis envy.
>>146589105ozzie is literally the sugar daddy of Fizz lol thats the biggest age gap same with Bee/Vortex
>>146589565Yeah, ignore the schizo.>hooking up with Beehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvRb8BAOOhg&t=68s
>"HE IS THE LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW"Cant get over this part
>>146578555Where did the notion of Millie and Blitzo being best friends even come fromBeen catching up and that statement was so weird
>>146589417We stan Stolas hereHe was funny in the beginning and heckin wholesome now and always liked IMP
>>146589629>Satan watched too much Judge Dredd (2012)
>>146589654Stop samefagging and let me suck your colon dry my sweet dirty birdy. You know you want me to...
>>146589578These two ships are not the focus and have little to no drama. In fact I expected Fizz x Ozzie to be presented as toxic because of how Ozzie controls almost every aspect of Fizz's life that it's uncomfortable, Stolas and Blitz at least have their own lives apart from each other.
>>146589669Im not stolasanon pls leave my colon alone
>>146589678You’re right, maybe Stolas should unleash his colon delights on Blitzo’s face as a token of his love, wouldn’t you agree my tasty owl?
>>146589705GIVE ME YOUR BUTT
>>146589678ozzie sees fizz as his baby , his "baby" asked him a favor and ozzie was silent all the trial to the point only Bee defended Blitz
So now that Archer is over, is Helluva the best gay fiction currently? Its not preachy or sjwy at all
>>146589753>Its not preachy or sjwy at all
>>146589730Ozzie joined Bee, but either couldn't do much
I am not sold on Leviathan’s design Viv’s desire to make all female characters bangable came back to haunt her
I like Blitz and Stolas, I don't like the whole show being dominated by their relationship, and I love how this episode completely sweeps them to the side and shows that hell does not care at all. They may have forgotten who they are and where they are, but hell hasn't, and they've been deemed sloppy.
>the only way to watch helluva on japan is with fan subs i hate Viv so muchHave lot of jap friends pissed they only got HH and people that discovered HB because of HH.
>>146589797All the new designs seem half-baked. Satan's and Bel's seem like just needed a few touches. Levi looks like an average sinner overlord. Before this episode, Bee was the only Sin design that sucked imo.
>>146586406>picrelWould he cum honey...?
>>146589809Hate her for what? It's on youtube for free, with subtitles so the words and timing is already there, making fansubs a million times easierI don't want to hear ANY bitching from Japan when quite literally all we had were fansubs for decades
>no more helluvaboss>no more hazbin hotelNow whatWe need a third Viv hellshow
>>146589920>Now whatDHORKbros... it's our time to shine!
>>146589949Love these guysThe mini ep with them in literal mexican standoff bit was great
>>146578555Not killing Stolas off is such a cop out I would have respected Viv greatly if she followed through on it and displayed real consequences
>>146590006>killing THE best character and most liked of the show*stamps "Return to Sender" on ur face, spins u 820 degrees and kicks u out of thread*
>>146590006>Not killing Stolas off is such a cop out*not killing Blitz
>>146590022>>146590029Stop samefagging and let me fish the fecal dingleberries out of your anal pubes, Stolasfag.
>>146590029>>146590022I’d have tipped my hat if she killed either. No balls
>>146581695>>146578684That's the joke guys, Bee throws penis popsicles, Mam is playing with a fucking finger skateboard and hitting on Lev, and when Bee an Ozzie are high fiving each other, Satan is facepalming
>>146589845I like Satan's design. Even the cowboy aspect, in addition to fitting with the way the wrath ring has been portrayed, also manages to lean into his role as hell's tyrant with him chaining people up like he's tying up an animal and him being a hanging judge.
>>146590078If it was a joke the entire show wouldn't be like that.
Who is Envy?Wrath satanPride luciferSloth the new goat demonGreed mammonLust ozzieGluttony beeEnvy??????????????? Is that supposed to be the twin head? But she's called leviathan, isnt leviathan like a thousands beasts in one? That's not the envy sin
>>146590151levi is envy yes
>>146590140The running joke of the show is that the royalty and higher ups are all as dumb and loony as the rest of the cast
>ctf f striker>2 hitsStriker was brought in this ep for no reason, and why would he even agree, how does he hate blitz more than hating playing along with royalty? I'm interested to see how he deals with the blitz famous status now
>>146589557There's Fizz and Asmodeus, right?
>>146590371I wouldn't be surprised if Viv is portraying him as a hypocrite because people sympathized with him too much.
>>146590500If you could swing a reason for Anon to get involved, maybe alongside Stolas during the kidnapping episode?
>>146590371I don’t understand why Blitz would even be famous. He literally didn’t do anything heroic and Stolas took the fall anyways. Have they never seen an imp go on trial before lol
>>146589323To be fair, rape fits in more with Wrath than Lust. Rape is less about the sex itself and more about violently asserting dominance over someone else
>>146590371he lost the plot long time ago the most he cares is about his horse and thats a good thing
>>146590536Blitz is the first imp/hellborn to survive a trial yes
>>146590536the whole thing was live, so they all heard his little FUCK YOU I DO THIS TO RISE ABOVE ALL THIS SHIT rant to Satan and the royals, and now he's seen as inspiration for Imps
>>146590371It makes some sense for ice bird to want to get out ahead of the assassination thing before IMP or Stolas could bring it up since that's probably an even more heinous crime than book misuse. And doing that would necessarily involve Striker's immunity and testimony since Stolas himself can testify who the assassin really was. Although it does mean even further undermining the alleged plight of the imps for the first person to make a big deal about their mistreatment to betray his own like that.
>>146590555People rape for a number of reasons. Which means Ozzie's stance on it could have been kind of interesting and nuanced. He could have hated some rapists but not been too bothered by others all while still preferring consensual sex over rape in general since two people being lustful > one.
>>146589565Wait, what was Beetism? Just simping for Bee like Loonafags lust for Loona?
Our whore was in the episodeShe was also worried about Blitzo Kun
>>146590666>Satan tripsLucky bastard. Blitzo should have smashed that.
>>146590576>since that's probably an even more heinous crime than book misuseI think that's behind the spanish bird introduction, he's the one focused on when striker goes away, i think he suspects something
>>146589042>>146589009>>146589086>>146589116i hope that's a girl cuz i just jerked off to her dominating me
>>146590666who did that edit lmao that's a much better idea than mr hipster over here
>go to Hell>end up having a higher quality of life than you did on earth>immortality, better economy and smoking hot demonic waifus as the trio of cherries on top.
>>146590755Hot. I want her to ride me cowgirl with me on a leash.
>>146590821>go to hell>it happens to be a day of purge or overlord war and you die again
>>146590874>nuclear war on Earth>it starts literally raining people in hell
>>146590530>Anon lets Stolas know this angelic bullshit has no effect on him, but plays along for the right moment>Stolas takes this as an opportunity to teach him something: How to do some spells without using his hands>Or stone gaze, whichever, unsure how advanced that is
>>146590530I was thinking Bee would wanna introduce you to what few Sins she's actually tight withAsmodeus and uh???????Is that it?
>>146590905I meant Fizz getting kidnapped by the mob but that'd also be cool.
>>146590929Ah shit that works great too, actually>"So do you want me to go in there and start blasting, or...?"
>>146590923Belphegor, she gets drugs from her sometimes. >Anon goes on a peyote trip with Beehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX7fuu7DgSs
>>146590666lol is that amber
>>146590941I don't remember that episode too well but it could be nifty.
>>146590981>"I hope I didn't brain my damage."
Reminder Stolas is a creepy predator who kills mortals because he's lonely, Blitzo threatens to rape people, and Moxxie got raped by Verosika and friends.
>>146591128>and Moxxie got raped by Verosika and friends.MnM need to correct Verosika and her posse as payback
>>146590923Also thinkingWould (you) get dragged into The Trial, or would Stolas find a way to have you avoid it?
>>146591175Stolas himself only showed up at the last minute, he'd likely want to hide (your) existence. And given Stolas' loss of his powers and status, Anon is... probably fucked, actually. Hope he's been constructing his own grimoire, even if it's peanuts compared to the real deal...
>>146590555Objectively female take, nearly all rape is done out of sheer sexual desperation https://www.cato.org/research-briefs-economic-policy/do-prostitution-laws-affect-rape-rates-evidence-europe#https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/720583https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2738&context=jle
>>146591128Early episodes are no longer canon chuddy. Blitzo and Stolas are flawless and Verosika is a heckin' wholesome sex-positive woman who cares about consent. Viv is done caring what men think.
>>146591203>Anon reveals he's long since photocopied the fucking thing just in caseI imagine the power comes less from the Grimoire itself, but moreso the knowledge within, right?
>>146591287>photocopying the entire grimoireKEK>I imagine the power comes less from the Grimoire itself, but moreso the knowledge within, right?I'm not sure that's ever been clarified, if it were knowledge than just reprinting it wouldn't be an issue would it? Yet they only have one of them as far as we know... but then, I doubt Viv's thought this deeply.
>>146591315If the Grimoire itself is the power, there'd be no real point in pages within, right?So knowledge = power sounds far more enticing.Maybe it serves as a catalyst to make casting easier for beginners? Who knows.Anyways>"You wh-">"Within the first month, actually. A backup doesn't hurt right? Even got the files saved at home, but I am gonna miss the real thing, beautiful book."
>>146591315Maybe copying the grimoire is super forbidden but who gives a shit, it's never clarified
>>146591368>>146591381Kek, anon just has a whole fucking pdf file on his PC. I like this idea.>teaching Stolas how to use technology>Stolas get ipad
>>146591433Sounds like a very fun, wonderful timeBy the way, Stolas got kicked out of the mansion, right?Does that mean Anon gets the boot, too?What would Octavia do?
>>146591433Actually without his grimoire Stolas was kinda useless in fucking, Seeing StarsWhich could be explained by "didn't actually memorize this shit"Role reversal where Anon helps his master get back on his feet?
>>146580034>Stella since episode 1: I want my bitch ass husband DEAD. His side-piece? DEAD. His fortune. MINE!>Twitter: OMG, why is she so happy Stolas is dead?Did they expect her to have a change of heart just because Octavia feels bad? She's on code. I don't think anyone has defended Stella on being a "good" mother or thinking she was secretly good. Only that the show is one-sided in making all of Stolas problems her fault. Meanwhile, Stolas is on trail for his own actions.
>>146591534AH FUCK IMAGINEKINO Andrealphus BOSS FIGHT
>>146591534>>146591614>"You may think me a foppish and quite frankly stunning pushover...">Andy creates a set of ice stairs to strut down.>And then he thwips his upper gown off.>Frozen mist gathers around his fingers before solidifying in the shape of a falchion.>"But I assure you...no mere mortal can stand against this ice cold bitch!"
>>146591843(Forgot the link)https://youtu.be/uAcaUDa6BCQ?feature=shared
>>146591503Well the timelines are going to be a smidge different I feel, since Octavia going by 'Tav' and subsequently befriending Anon might make things a bit different...Maybe if you don't make the effort to help Octavia, she starts emulating her uncle Andre? And if you do, she tries to get away from Stella from time to time to visit Stolas?>>146591534>Anon has to help Stolas out of his depressed funk>>146591843>>146591853Kino.
>>146591589>>146580034people don't get that her hate for Stolas is above everything , to the point it affects her life If Viv want to give her nuance she is going to connect with Octavia and betray her brother when he is ready to kill Via so he doesn't lost his tittle and power.
>>146591843>"I practiced fire magic for a reason, you sack of SHIT."Actually imagine him fire punching Andre all over the placeUnless he's using a sword or whatever and sets that shit ablaze
>>146591918
>>146591953It could be a pretty even fight, maybeDefinitely not a pushover, ice would have many defensive capabilitiesWould be fun...
>>146591980I still see this as a kinda turn based style game myself, seems the most easily achievable.
>>146592027Unironically, ripping Press Turn from Megaten would be the actual best thingI would lovehttps://youtu.be/OyGJp9awO20?si=t6jeLlWLC1vNVHrJ
>>146592089Shit that WOULD be a cool concept. Go full on jrpg.
>>146591843Gigadick phys build clashing against his sword...
Season 3 when
High tier lust demon/sinner...https://youtu.be/kqlaY9Dqw4c?si=OK8pYuWALMhfwzj6
