>>146581861
>Tease return of beloved character
>Kill beloved character
>Bait and switch with female lead
>Again

Wonder why...

gwgb

>>146581861
He said the N word

>>146581861
S2 was a long shot anyway. The showrunners were aware of that a year ago

I think we've reached a point that nobody gives a fuck anymore. Everybody has their neurons burnt out from overworked dopamine receptors. Old beloved IPs are fucking beyond dead. Artistic integrity means absolutely nothing with these nepobabies.

>bring back franchise with male character
>make it about female character
>it fails

Try it for the 100th time, this time it will surely work.

>>146582101
>Old beloved IPs are fucking beyond dead.
Thank God, let's make some new shit again. And I mean actually good shit like these IPs that have been milked to death over the last 20 years used to be. Make entertainment original again.

>>146582109
Was there ever a case of this working once?

>>146582113
Never gonna happen.
Let's get excited for [PRODUCT]!

>>146581861
I thought it was always meant to be a one and done?

>>146581880
You are very, very dumb. What do you think "takes off" means? That Scott would be running an airplane courier business with a furry Kathryn Hepburn or something? And the airplanes "take off" from the runway so Scott can deliver the packages?
You fucking retard. He "takes off" from being the main character.

>>146582125
>>146582113
No, it's never gonna happen because when something good actually does come along, you people ignore it wholesale for lack of waifus.

>>146582305
>You're dumb because you didn't take the title as literally as possible and believed the pre-release information that never once implied he wouldn't be the main character

>>146582130
The series ends on a cliffhanger, I guess they at least had the plot for a second season in mind.

>>146582320
Ok, what was recently good but misunderstood?

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What will be "Scott Pilgrim Takes Off!"'s lasting legacy?

>>146582124
That Kevin Smith He-Man series. It got a second season.

>>146581880
>>146582109
/thread/

>>146582109
>>146582124
The FOP reboot was actually surprisingly successful, it debuted at #1 Netflix show for kids and has held strong, yet there still hasn't been any news of a revival (or cancellation) yet so I still wouldn't count it.

>>146581861
>Scott Pilgrim creator decides to do a “What If?” styled sequel to the comic
>Sees all these other Netflix shows get canned after their first season
>Choose to write it as an 8-episode miniseries
Simple as

>>146582305
"taking off" can mean becoming highly successful

The majority of men these days are incels, and the majority of women hate all men who aren't Chad, none of them would ever consider dating a dork like Scott Pilgrim, times have changed. So men can't relate to Scott because they would never date a scene girl, women can't relate to Ramona because they would never date a dork. People also have girl boss fatigue, so when they did away with Scott and made the focus on Ramona, they lost the few avid cartoon watchers they might have otherwise had.

>>146582124
The Penguin. Midway through the season, it is revealed that the show is actually about a female character who has been wronged by Penguin in the past. She gets more development and the audience actually starts rooting for her instead of Penguin.

>>146582388
The close up lesbian make out scene.

>>146582305
Tldr
Just remember when you get your new job at Burger King, 'have it your way' is for the customers, not xirself.

>>146582398
>That Kevin Smith He-Man series. It got a second season.
I believe that only happened because they made a deal for two seasons series, with probable clause to make more if the series was successful. But only few people returned to watch 2nd season.

>>146581861
Why would they even do another season. It wrapped everything up in a nice way.

>>146582368
Not much of a cliffhanger just an open "life goes on for these wacky evil characters" kinda deal.

Like saying the Mario Bros movie actually expected a sequel with their ending of Daisy showing up looking like a commando. Or Shaun Kahn showing up to be a new threat for the Mortal Kombat earth gang.

>>146581880
Post scott pilgrim collection

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>>146582388
>>146582555
Pretty much this. If we ever see anyone post it again, it'll be the handful of coomer moments. That, and it made Kim and Roxy really popular.

>>146582684
In both cases they did expect a sequel

>>146581861
the story was one-and-done. It didn't need a second season.

>>146582536
Nah it was always about the Penguin

>>146582305
All advertisement and promotional material released for the show was intentionally framed as being a faithful direct animated adaptation of the comics. It was intentionally a bit and switch.

Also "takes off" does not imply that the perspective of the show will not follow the titular character.

>>146582431
#1 on netflix doesn't mean shit, especially when it's not competing against anything.

>>146582101
>Old beloved IPs are fucking beyond dead

I fucking wish, everything is a reboot of a remake of a sequel of a spin-off of a adaptation, nostalgia baiting is the new meta for 15 years now.

>>146582894
So instead of a new story that expands on the story we know you're upset we didn't just tell the same story again.

>>146582967
>Expands

It didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know outside of some tidbits

>>146582398
Why tf you lying

>>146582967
You're skimming over the fact they were never honest with any of this. Like >>146582894 said. They didn't have the balls to call this "Ramona Flowers Vs. The World" or something, and at no point did they say this was going to be a new story. They tricked people into thinking it was one thing, then gave us something else. How is that anything but scummy?

Shitty IP, shitty live action actors, shitty voice acting.
Jeez i wonder why it's unsuccessful.

>>146582996
Was nice for more time with the Evil Exes.
See them actually interact and for the 1st one to exist outside of practically one movie scene for most people.

>>146583194
Exactly. You can frame it as a positive subversion of expectations, but if, say, you bought a boxed product with all marketing suggesting it was one thing, only to open it to reveal something else entirely, you'd be pissed, and would rightfully demand a refund.

>>146582305
>show is called "scott pilgrim's back!"
>you idiots should have known they meant look at his back as he walks into the horizon and doesn't appear for most of the show

>>146582388
Gooner bait bullshit that will be forgotten in a year

>>146582388
I thought the show itself was fine enough, I’ll add it to the list of Scott Pilgrim shit I re-read and re-watch every few years. But it’s hard not to view it as a disappointment after years of watching Titmouse’s Scott Pilgrim vs the Animation and going “wow, wish they made a faithful animated adaptation of the rest of the series!” only for them to announce one for Netflix years later and market it as such, only for it to be something different.
Not against the idea of STO, just should’ve been the extra season tacked on to the end of an actual adaptation

>>146582497
>So men can't relate to Scott because they would never date a scene girl, women can't relate to Ramona because they would never date a dork
Darkest timeline

>>146582431
I don't know why people bring up #1 on Netflix when Netflix literally publishes weekly top 10 charts that tell you exactly how many hours every show was viewed and how many views they got.
The FOP reboot premiered with 2 million views in its premiere week and debuted at #8 globally (#9 in the US).

>>146581861
Pulled a bait and switch
Audiences did not like that
Viewership was bad overall

not hard to figure out really

>>146582305
>loses like a bitch
>acts almighty about it

>>146581923
"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

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>>146581861
>What happened?
For a lot of folks such as myself the first impression they got from Scott Pilgrim was the godawful Michael Cera live-action film.
It left such as sour taste in my mouth that I vowed never to consume another product with the Scott Pilgrim name ever again and I suspect a lot of folks had the same reaction.
Not to mention I interacted with the fandom here on /co/ and I got the impression that they were all hormonal 15 year-olds lusting after the female characters and nothing else.
Didn't watch, won't watch. Period.

>>146582398
That is probably the biggest example of
>Just who the hell is this made for?
I have ever seen. Because I really cannot believe that there were lots and lots of girls wanting He-Man, but a strong woman for them. Especially after there was a She-Ra show on two years earlier. There just cannot be enough to count as an audience to pay for the production of a show.

Scott Pilgrim I can kind of get, it has a large cast of girls and it likely has a lot of girl fans. That makes some sense to make the attempt I suppose. But He-Man?
Even Ghostbusters seems like a reasonable attempt on paper, just get some comedians and special effects.

>>146581861
the thing was planed as a one season
bryan already said so back then
>>146581880
>oh noes no more scott wank we don't have the movie/comics for that!!

Trump won

Here's an idea for season 2 should they consider: Matthew Patel's Scott Pilgrim Musical. The show within the show minus Older Scott featuring Matt as Scott.

>>146582431
It probably helps out a lot that the main character is a goofy, funny moron like Timmy and is actually likable.

Everyone else fucks up by making their main protagonists an angry, mean faced antagonistic girl-boss who picks fights with everyone and is just genuinely unlikable piece of shit to any audience.

>>146581861
God bless the internet, as soon as I learned he gets killed off immidiately and replaced with a hole I immidiately put it in my don't watch list. Shame, the artstyle is very nice

>>146584157
Netflix also publishes a semiannual report of hours viewed and total views for something like 5-6k shows on their platform that anyone can just go download.
IIRC SPTO only got like 1.7 million views in the 6 month period when it came out.
If you ever wonder why a show you liked got canned, you can just go look at the total views in that report, because it turns out that "top 10" doesn't really mean anything without actual numbers.

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>>146582124
Mad Max Fury Road seems to have been pretty successful.

>>146581861
People are too tired of woke shit.

>>146584384
Furiosa wasn't, though. No male main character, no buy.

>>146584272
I doubt anyone under the age of 25 actually cares about Scott pilgrim anymore. This should’ve just played it safe for the two or three seasons worth of story that was the book and did this as an OVA last season

>>146584418
It was always niche and for millennial hipsters but fucking up the adaptations really killed any chance of it reaching a mainstream audience.

>>146582124
Even then, there are too many examples if it just tanking a franchise and loosing way too much money that it's insane to see executives continue trying it.

>Star Wars consistently lost viewership, sales, and cultural relevance, they tried to reverse course in Mandalorian but also did the same shit with that too
>Ghostbusters was a special level of failure to the point they had to fully reverse course
>I have no idea what the fuck is going on with Terminator Dark Fate, they just plain wasted money on that one.
>I don't know who couldn't see it coming in Dr Who, that whole series is nothing but a social experiment at this point. Also it kind of dropped why women liked watching the show, they liked the scenario of some sexy nobleman appearing and whisking them away to the universe.
>Marvel replacing Thor was just stupid, and they kept it up and lost money the whole time just to piss off ..Thor readers I suppose.
>How successful was Last of Us 2? Seems like it won a lot of awards and had lots of people talking about it...but what about sales?

>>146584418
>>146584484
It's another very generational thing. Only really people who grew up in the 90s and were young in the early 00s music culture would really get much out of it. It's too different for anyone now, and the video game references only really work for people who played 90s era 8 and 16 bit games. Like all older teen movies being totally irrelevant to younger audiences now. No one is going to get 16 Candles or Empire Records either for the same reasons.

The time to strike and make a Scott Pilgrim animated series was more 2006-ish, or 2011 after the movie. Even the movie came a little late.

>>146584384
Fury Road was a box office disappointment

>>146584577
>*lies*

>>146584272
the music in the live action was really good don't know what you're on about

>>146583310
No, were that the name, I'd be pissy, too. Thankfully, I don't have cuntflaps to get into a twist about it like the rest of you.
>>146582894
Oh. I didn't see any of the promotional material. I just saw the name pop up on my Netflix so I watched it and was quite happy with the end of the first episode.
>>146582558
Ma'am, that would be a waste of my degrees.
>>146582453
True. But it was obvious at the end of the first ep what the title was in reference to.
>>146582379
Misunderstood? Not much. Ignored? Blood of Zeus, Costumequest, Mulligan, that rotoscoped TV show I can't remember the name of off the top of my head right now and a Pantheon. While Pantheon got some live at first, it was quickly cast aside in favour of the latest round of waifus.

>>146581861
I haven't watched this, but was it even a different story from the comics or the movie? Why would anybody want to experience the same story for a third time in a different media.

>>146584676
>that rotoscoped TV show I can't remember the name of off the top of my head
Undone.
And since puppets are discussed here, why haven't I ever seen much discussion about Yonderland?

>>146582320
Because all of the actual talent is recruited to work on these reboots since they have the largest budgets.

>>146584695
It was a different story, yes. Time travel and vegan robots were involved

>>146581861
go woke get broke

>>146584739
Was Scott Pilgrim ever not wokeslop?

>>146581861
Not enough Kim

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>>146581861
Netflix looks primarily at series completion rates and how many views a series has during a certain period. It's not related to quality.

The Dark Crystal won an Emmy, still got canned. I honestly wish Netflix would give good quality shows extra seasons if there's a space for the story to keep growing. But this is where we are at.

Yes, the Scott Pilgrim trailer was a bait and switch, but O'malley also hinted not to expect a straight adaptation. I don't like the marketing, however, I ended up liking the show anyways. And judging from threads on this board, it didn't bother you guys that much.

>>146582109
In this case it was probably a combination of BLoM being hyper aware that Scott Pilgrim was heavily criticized for having misogynist leanings as well as likely feeling a bit burned out on constantly rehashing the same thing.

It seems like he was fixated on making sure he passed the Bechdel test as well as making Ramona more than a manic pixie dream girl archetype. It makes me wonder if maybe his ex wife brought a bunch of this stuff up before she divorced him and this was his subconscious attempt at winning her back.

This is a project that probably should have been made by someone else. The animation and general visual style was really good, but as has been mentioned countless times, people really just wanted to see a faithful adaptation of the books and, as is the case with most creatives, BLoM was likely hyper-resistant to retreading old ground.

>>146584704
Just checked the archive. Literally every single mention of Yonderland was me. It has never been discussed here at all. This. This is why you don't deserve good shows. Because you ignore brilliance like Yonderland.

>>146584379
sex

>>146584809
Netflix bases their decisions on views and hours viewed.
That's it.
They don't care about rewards, they don't care about acclaim, they don't care about fandom, if a show isn't getting the views they want it's going to get canned.

>>146583859
I think I'm allergic to the sound of Will Forte's voice. While I would have liked to see a faithful adaptation of the books, I didn't mind the new direction as much as some anons and could come back to the show in the future, but I really can't fucking stand Will Forte. He was my least favorite part about Moonbeam City too. I might eventually watch this again, but the idea of having to endure his snivelling shrill over-acted brand of 'comedy' is going to be something I'd have to overcome first.

>>146584861
People ignore magnum opuses like The Dark Crystal. Yonderland is hot garbage in comparison to that, so don't be surprised.

>>146584925
I don't have such a visceral reaction to him and his voice but I've noted how he's generally a poor choice for any role he's ever cast in excepting Last Man on Earth.
He was especially bad in Scott Pilgrim.

>>146583287
It was nicer for the exes that got screen time from the movie since the twins still get shafted. I don't know the positives of the Veggie Exe getting turned into a infatuated homo though

>>146582101
>Old beloved IPs
compared to the other stuff they brought back scott pilgrim was pretty fresh, the problem is they pissed off the core audience by lying
would i have been happy if they told me we arent doing animated scott pilgrim? yes, i have been begging for animated scott pilgrim since forever but if they told me that a couple of months before it aired some of that anger would have gone away instead you got a lot of people mad who watched it on release then more angry people the next day then even more pissed off people the following day then the reviewers started making videos that didnt paint a nice picture
they thought that by staying quiet they would trick people, tricking people doesnt work

did people forgot the movie flopped in a worse way?
what is scottfags aka incels excuse?

>>146584952
>hot garbage
I liked it. : )
Having a villain named Cuddly Dick played by Stephen Fry who is actually controlled by an incel toupe and forced to hug people to death was brilliant. And the Kraftwerk nod in the episode Game of Crones was great, too. The dialogue is silly and fun
>"if I didn't fight for the resistance how could I look her in the eye?"
>said by a character married to a cyclops
It's just a good, silly time that anyone can enjoy.

>>146584964
Most of the roles he's cast in would be a lot funnier if they got someone to play it straight. Getting Will Forte to overact a scene that already has a ridiculous setup is like putting a hat on a hat.

>>146582967
Different argument, faggot. Admit you are wrong or fuck off.

>>146583194
>"Ramona Flowers Vs. The World"
This one change would have probably made people like it a lot more. It still would have been bad because the evil exes are not deep characters and Ramona's whole character arc was already covered and explored in the original comic anyways. This alt-timeline subversion bullshit ultimately undermines the closest thing to a story the comic had, which was Scott and Ramona both realizing that they fucking suck and need to grow up, instead of making it all about how Ramona needs to say she's sorry so she can become a person who still ends up fucking up every relationship she gets in.

>>146584488
>How successful was Last of Us 2? Seems like it won a lot of awards and had lots of people talking about it...but what about sales?
Sold well on name recognition and hype alone, and then left the majority of players deeply disappointed that the handful of surprisingly good things about it were buried inside one of the most retarded, overwrought, up-its-own-ass stories in video games. Unsurprisingly "revenge is LE BAD" did not resonate with most people who play the games for their combat and murder options.

>>146582431
Gen alpha is raised with white guilt, sad

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>my honest reaction to this news
Am I the only one more surprised a second season was even in talks? I liked it and all but it felt like a one and done deal to me.

>>146585066
>like putting a hat on a hat.
Do you know what an uraba lugens (AKA a mad hatterpillar) is? They're a type of caterpillar that with each moult retains the skin of its old head as a hat. By the time they cocoon, they've got a half dozen such hats stack on top of each other. Everytime someone uses the phrase "a hat on a hat," I think of mad hatterpillars

>>146585306
It’s why I’m so surprised they went this route, the regular story could’ve made for at least three seasons.

>>146585413
>Scott Pilgrim vs the World
>Scott Pilgrim Gaiden (Scott's early years)
>Ramona Flowers vs the World
It's such a simple concept and it would have done great.

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>>146585413
>>146585482
>Scott Pilgrim vs the World
>Scott Pilgrim Gaiden (Scott's early years)
>Ramona Flowers vs the World
After that Scott Pilgrim vs Lackadaisy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcptjU31IgU

>>146584809
>dark crystal gets canned because it was "too expensive"
>"hey netflix we only spent so much money to build the puppets and sets but we can reuse it now and make a bunch more at a cheaper price"
>lol no still cancelled
>show ends on a cliffhanger
>they sold off the puppets
I will never stop being mad. I shilled for that show so hard and nobody I knew irl would even give it a shot.

>>146584488
>Marvel replacing Thor was just stupid, and they kept it up and lost money the whole time just to piss off ..Thor readers I suppose.

The whole early 2010s Jane Thor thing was fucking weird. I don't know what in the fuck is going on with Marvel writers heads when at the end of the day they are running a business. So why
>I need readers t keep buying my books! So I'm going to piss them off and do the exact opposite of what they want to read!!!
>Then I will insult them on Twitter!
>Why aren't they buying my books?
They need to sell books, to sell books they need readers to buy those books. To buy those books they need to want to buy them in the first place. What the fuck is going on when writers intentionally do everything their readers don't want, don't like, and then get to work bemoaning how sales are down.

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>>146585148
I wouldn't have stopped /co/ from bitching about it.

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>>146584925
damn

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>>146582555
>>146582767
Good shit.

>>146586446
It was incredible. People were filtered by the puppet aspect too much, but by the end of the first episode you're fully immersed and kind of forget that you're watching puppets.
Artistically, it's one of the most epic productions we're likely to see in our lifetimes. The number of artisans they employed to create everything down to blades of grass is just insane. In these days of greedy execs constantly trying to pay less for bigger rewards, it's hard to imagine anyone ever mounting a production of this scale ever again unless some eccentric billionaire becomes autistically fixated on puppets and decides to fund it with no expectation of ROI.

>>146586720
*it wouldn't have stopped...

>>146586749
yes. He sucked in 30 rock too, although he was more tolerable since over the top antics were on brand for the show.

>>146581861
>Not picked up
>Cancelled

These two things are not the same.

>>146586786
there was a time when the mega-rich would create things for the public like parks, libraries, arts foundations, etc. Even though they were awful people in life, they hoped that their lasting legacy might help them be remembered fondly. It'd be pretty fucking sweet if a billionaire actually funded stuff like additional seasons of The Dark Crystal instead of taking joy rides to outer space or buying social media networks to prevent people from saying mean things about them.

>>146586829
Technically they didn't renew it for S2. Cancelling is a term that is often used in the same way, but technically that would imply that production was prematurely ended.

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>>146581861
I mean, it's Netflix. Cancelling shows is what they do.

It still hurts I want to legit murder the person who made this call.

>>146581861
>Literally concluded
>Uh should we do more?
No, leave it alone.

>>146581861
Was there supposed to be a season 2? Seemed like a one and done thing.

Should have made a show 10 years ago

>>146586845
>Even though they were awful people in life, they hoped that their lasting legacy might help them be remembered fondly
Alfred Nobel created multiple destructive inventions (mostly explosives) before willing some of his money to start the prize made in his name.

>>146581861
Wasn’t it always supposed to be one and done? I didn’t watch it when I heard it was a side-quel—nothing against that, I just wanted a straight adaptation or sequel—but I do remember interviews with the cast saying it wasn’t supposed to be an ongoing.

>>146586720
That's because it's an inherently stupid idea to make a show that involves time travel, retcons, pointless B-plots about characters no one fucking likes, and wanking off about Ramona for the entire show.

>>146587532
What is your end goal?

Well ofc. Scot Pillgrim vs the world ruined a whole generation of women.

>>146586860
Not renewed isn't cancelled though. Just because people wanted more doesn't mean it was ever on the table nor are they due it. So it didn't get cancelled. If they ordered 4 seasons and shut it down in s2 sure. But S1 was made ordered and aired and they decides no more was needed. That shit isn't cancellation. I wish people would stop saying shit like that. It's just faggots pretending someone is out to get them and shut their shit down when not ordering more is not the fucking same as ending a run prematurely due to reasons. This fucking victim complex shit pisses me off.

>>146587519
I think it has more to do with the fact that /co/ cannot help but whine about shows with female leads in general.

>>146581923
"Netflix"

>>146587553
https://youtu.be/TSKizLRFbTo?si=TCTHoTWlnsskdfnP

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>>146587553
imagine looking like picrel and having the balls to blame a comic for your inability to get laid.
Yeah, women were the ones who were ruined.

>>146581861
Good fuck millennials

>>146586845
Uhuh anon, that's what's happening.
What do you mean, "twitter files?"

>>146587601
Isn't that the author

>>146587624
If you're talking about the dipshit who wrote that terrible song that keeps getting spammed by retards, then yes. If you're talking about Bryan Lee O'Malley, then no.

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>>146587635
I have no idea who tf that is or what you're talking about, but I looked up the Scott Pilgrim author and I see that guy looks a lot better than this.

>>146587643
larping for clicks on /co/ is one of the saddest fucking things I've ever heard of.

>>146587532
Based af

>>146587601
>>146587643
They do look a like lmao.

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>>146587771
maybe in that "all asians look the same" sort of way, but you'd have to be an absolute retard to confuse the two.

>>146587572
Don't deflect, like a faggot.

>>146587818
stating a truth is not deflecting.
Searching the archives for "Female Lead" gives you this:
>In all honesty, I think that's what has consistently made Arcane feel 'off' for me. It's a female-lead show, but it will never not be weird to see women take all the lead 'male' roles.

>Since all their movies star female leads I don't care about this shitty Diet Disney Rip Off. Female Leads to me are automatic shit

>Female characters pretending they are such victims of reality and existence? Bullshit even for fiction. Women live on easy mode

>female lead, won't watch.
Seems more like you're mad because someone disagreed with you.

>>146584695
>Why would anybody want to experience the same story for a third time in a different media.
because the "story" of Takes Off was shit

>>146582305
You angered the chuddha. Now you get no s2. Was it worth it?

>>146587601
Sometimes I forgot that there are real pathetic and projecting incels who can’t take responsibility for their lives. I’d gotten so use to it being an insult used by insecure and mentally ill women that I’d forgotten that it’s a real-thing, but bro here is a good example.

>>146587210
Out of all the things to cancel they went for the one that was good
Why do they hate puppets?

>>146584695
The same reason some people are looking forward to the mcu Fantastic Four, they want a better adaption of the story. The live action movie had some misstep. People hope for this to do the franchise some justice

>>146587890
Seems like you're assblasted that people rightfully criticize bad shows with terrible writing.

>>146582388
Another revival with 0 cultural impact that will be brought up only during hours long retrospectives.

>>146587890
And /co/'s right, too much feminist propaganda and girl boss fatigue is the reason why all those shows are failing, and even if they have a male lead western soiboy writers cannot hell themselves but emasculated hem so men won't care about them either

>>146584695
>>146582967
Have you never read a manga and seen it played out in an anime adaptation before? Some people want to experience shit in a different medium too.
In Scott Pilgrim’s case, the Movie played out the events of the first couple of books fine enough but rushed and skipped over a bunch of the rest (result of the movie being worked on at the same time as the later books). A faithful anime adaptation that tells the whole story (and potentially adds filler to achieve BLOMs desire to have more time with the Exs) is the type of thing people were expecting

>>146584300
>comic is called Scott pilgrim
>hur durrr why you expect Scott pilgrim?!?!

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>>146581880
He-Man wasn't actually that bad.

>>146589338
>Game is called Zelda

>>146584488
>How successful was Last of Us 2? Seems like it won a lot of awards and had lots of people talking about it...but what about sales?
They had to cancel the DLC, Multi-player, AND forced to remake the first and second games.

>>146584991
I thought it was funny

>>146581880
>>146582109
But the female character is beloved as well, not some random new character created for the show.

>>146581861
Well... it ended. I have no fucking idea why it should have a S2 when it literally ended.

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>>146589909
>thinking the DLC cancellation has something to do with the success and nothing else.

It can have a shitton of reasons, from being a too massive and expensive and thus risky project to simply not working technically or regarding gameplay. Several multiplayer games massively failed at that time and it was probably smart to cancel it. Right now they work on something new.

FUCK off with your shitty ass opinion, because not everyone is a faggot like a handful of anons of your kind. Also, piss off to /v/.

>>146584488
>How successful was Last of Us 2? Seems like it won a lot of awards and had lots of people talking about it...but what about sales?
10 millions of copies in 2022.
>>146585216
>Sold well on name recognition and hype alone
It kept selling well after its release.
>and then left the majority of players deeply disappointed
Except the majority of players liked it. It has a high score on PS Store and it was the PS4 game with the highest trophy completion.
>>146589909
There was no DLC, the multiplayer was a different game and Naughty Dog releases remasters of all their games (they did the same with Uncharted 4, which was the best-selling Uncharted game)

>>146584488
>Ghostbusters was a special level of failure to the point they had to fully reverse course
The funny thing is that the new two movies had lower box office than Fembusters, kek

>>146584488
Star Wars isn't about a specific male character, each story has a new protagonist
>inb4 but Disney makes too much female protagonists
It's 50/50
>inb4 billions must die

>>146590542
>>inb4 but Disney makes too much female protagonists
The issue is more that Disney's male protagonists are lame and pathetic.
Their female protagonists are also, lame, but they're at least not utterly pathetic.

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>>146581861
People were hoping for a 1 to 1 adaptation of the comics and not whatever retardation the shat out while also bait and switching with the trailer.

We are also never getting an actual adaptation of it because of that and I want everyone who defended it to go to hell.

>>146584809
>it didn't bother you guys that much.
it bothered me immensely

>>146588336
I'm not the one getting assblasted here and I'm not saying that the show didn't have bad writing. This isn't an either/or situation. I simply pointed out in my original statement here >>146587572 that no matter what they did (retitled the show, wrote it differently), anons would still get assblasted that a girl was the main character.
You're the one who seems to be getting ass-blasted.

>>146590402
the story was mostly done but they hinted at some future baddies to leave the door open for more.

>>146581861
>What happened?
Well for starters, it wasn't very good

>>146581861
This show is the FF7Remake of cartoons. Advertised as a new adaptation but in actuality a sequel with time bullshit.

>>146584400
It won't stop until you see the parasites

>>146582398
I think that was a hughe 180 in writing, thought.

>>146590760
Female protags are often a red flag for atrocious writing. You can pretend it's just sexism, but you said it yourself: The show has bad writing. Deciding to make the lead of the Scott Pilgrim show one of the female characters is an aspect of the writing that can be immediately identified as an aspect of its quality, or lack thereof. Faggot.

>>146581861
What does the N stand for?

>>146590474
>It kept selling well after its release.
The remaster of the first game sold nearly twice as many copies as TLOU2. 18 million for the remaster, versus 10 mil for TLOU2
>It has a high score on PS Store and it was the PS4 game with the highest trophy completion
The game is fairly and linear as fuck and extremely easy, especially since they put in a million difficulty sliders to make the game as easy as you need it to be. Trophies are hardly a sign of its quality, especially considering how no one talks about it anymore, except to bring up the controversy about it's terrible story.

>>146587485
This, Bryan said that he didn't think they would ask for a 2nd season.

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>>146590542
Surely it wasn't about Luke Skywalker (male) or Anakin Skywalker (male).
How utterly dishonest.

>>146582684
>Shaun Kahn

im gigglin

>>146581861
Dandadan saved Science SARU

>>146582388
one of the many examples of why you should never trust Netflix with your IP

>>146582113
I know this isnt the board for it but you should check out animes and mangas, weebshit is where all the original entertainment creativity is at right now

>>146582497 yea im also an incel that cant really interact with women, but i dont think were a majority

>>146582967
Yes. I wanted a faithful adaptation to the comics I liked. Then we could've done Scott Pilgrim Z afterwards if they wanted.

>>146592187
>still assblasted
kek

>>146584925
That's funny, he's always been one of my favorites. Maybe because I grew up watching him in BMW. Though I did think it a bit silly for him to have played future Scott.

>>146587796
His name is too white for me to see him as asian.

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>>146581861
Since almost all of the Pilgrim's girls were posted in the last thread, I'll post the guys

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>>146581861
I guess Force isn't Female???

>>146582109
AND if they focus on the main character who is a female like Tomb Raider, they will make her an ugly man looking feminist

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>>146582388
Lucas Lee becoming a prime gaybait

>>146582113
I'm looking forward to this series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgkQQCFaYuY

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>>146581861
Sensationalist clickbait.

SPTO was never meant to have more than one season.

But hey, why turn down a perfectly good opportunity to bitch about how women won't fuck you?

>>146581861
It was just one seaon?

i never read scott pilgrim back when it was first coming out i only watched the 2010 movie why would i watch this semi spin off of the comic 14 years after the movie 20 years after the comic ran

>>146597824
>>146597844
Stop

>>146581861
I hated this show at first for sidelining Scott, but my opinion did a 180 after realizing I should treat it like the second route in a visual novel, while the comic is the first.

It's there to flesh out the parts of the world the original didn't show us and get new perspectives on the characters, not replace the plot of the original show.

I think it's a solid 8/10 with that in mind.

>>146597824
>>146597844
HOW ARE YOU NOT BANNED FUCK OFF I TRPEORTED YOU LIKKE 500 TIMMES

>>146584488
How degenerated are you that you see these endlessly produced slopfest sequels stuffed to the brim with generic appeal as failing because they had more women protagonists? Its just dumb. Its not like these would have been excellent productions if the hero was some dude. Would it have saved a god damn thing in dr.who if some other poor sap was put up on chiball's chopping block of mediocrity?

>>146586845
Youre literally buying into elite propaganda. The spineless parasites who rule over us never lift a finger to do more than advance their acquisition of property until we put them in their place. There is no noblesse oblige without the implied peasant revolt and its only ever been wealthy aristocrats trying to dictate the terms of wealth distribution. Dont trust em. Never have, never will. You either work or you rent.

>>146596479
Tourists dont keep up with industry news they just cry, laugh, yell and repeat the cycle

>>146597899
Even with adjusted expectations, it's still not even that good as what it's trying to be. Some of the action scenes are okay, but the story is still ass and it amounts to Ramona and the Exes repeatedly going
>wow I guess we never apologized to each other for the bad things we did and the personal faults we each have.
And then the twist ending with Future Scott and Ramona just shits all over what flimsy message they tried to have for the entire show.

>>146598189
>>146598230
>>146598247
>>146598322
You guys should just be like >>146597844 and just let it all out

>>146581861
Sad

>>146581861
>be netflix
>cancel a thing even if people like it
>feel amusement as anon freaks out

>>146595756
He's obviously mixed, but the Asian genes are strong. What is he, half Irish and half Filipino?

>>146600036
Half Korean, half Irish
All Leaf

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>>146596155
> if they focus on the main character who is a female like Tomb Raider, they will make her an ugly man looking feminist
I don't know why people keep saying this. You think she's ugly and 'man looking' here?

>>146597706
>i only watched the 2010 movie
ok, retard

>>146582305
Nice post hoc rationalization. There's no way your faggot ass thought it was going to be what it turned out to be because you only saw the same promotional material as the rest of us. The same promotional material that all but confirmed a retelling of the comics. Just because you're an easily amused retard doesn't mean what you saw was good.

>>146598230
>Youre literally buying into elite propaganda
wut?
I think you're bringing a lot of assumptions to this argument and are referencing a lot of shit I didn't say. I simply think having parks and libraries is nice and useful for the public. I'm not saying rich people used to be benevolent. Any benefits we have as a result of Carnegie setting up posthumous funds for the arts and public spaces was motivated by greed and ego, but at the very least the public can actually benefit from that. Bezos taking a quick ride to low-orbit space is also motivated by ego (and a different form of greed), but does absolute shit for the common man. Neither actions were performed with the idea that "giving back is the right thing to do", but with the former example, at least the public can somehow benefit.

>>146600122
NTA and I have no strong feelings about this, but apparently "takes off" (and variants thereof) is a common expression in Canada meaning "leaves". A similar (albeit more vulgar) example in America would be "fucks off". If the series was titled "Scott Pilgrim Fucks Off", it would heavily indicate that he's going to be absent even though the term "fucks off" could have various interpretations depending on context.

>>146587210
>>146588237
The worst part is the most expensive part of the show had to be the celebrities they hired to do voices. They'd already made the majority of puppets and sets, meaning the second season already had the bulk of its physical asset costs handled by them being able to reuse things. But of course Netflix gonna Netflix, they cancelled, and then sold off assets. The bastards.

>>146600193
Yes i understand your perspective, but its propaganda from the elite. Please hear me out, im not indicting you here. Both people you just mentioned were acting out of an acknowledged selfishness and need for validation, we're agreed on this but its only part of the story. These drives have been put to other uses before besides noblesse oblige. What triggers these public works is tremendous wealth inequality that creates social unrest, true to the era of both your examples. The elite feel the heat as people ask why we need these middlemen anyway, they justify themselves in part through this public projects. It glorifies their ego and lets them pretend they've been helpful to society. But in reality, there's no reason for them to have ever had such autocratic control over all that wealth in the first place. We would manage space exploration better if we could slap the bezosi of the world out of their property and subordinate it to public democratic management. Not trying to be a jerk, i just get bothered by this one. Its an insidious little on their trick, hiding one selfish motivation within another.

"What? No i didnt break into your house to rape you, i broke into your house because im a kleptomaniac. Now if youll excuse me i need to wipe some lubricant off my hands."

>>146581861
They shit all over the comic and movie for no reason?

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>>146581861
this happened

>>146589435
Ironically they've been making Zelda a major player rather than being passive in the games since Ocarina of Time. Majora's Mask was most & Link's Awakening were two of the major Zelda's without her and both were mostly about Link having an out of body experience/coping with a mental breakdown.

>>146600085
Not what she looks like in the latest games or in the cartoon

>>146586446
My mom and my brother and I watched it together, and now there are three of us disappointed that we can't have a season 2

>>146586845
Elon renovated the shitty public park that was Twitter. But okay, I'm sure he's just mass banning anyone who so much as says a cross word.

>>146600854
Yeah all those pesky humans were making hard for me to talk to bots about our favorite american topics like foots ball, pussy in profile and warm water ports

>>146600912
Man, why do you insist on eating all these sour grapes man?

>>146601204
Um, heeey anon, lol can you maybe tell me what you thought that fable was about?

>>146596479
>SPTO was never meant to have more than one season.
More specifically the writers knew Netflix rarely renews shit so they made SPTO largely self-contained so people wouldn't be left hanging for a sequel season that might not happen.

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Describe his smell fro me, anons.

>>146601326
Mmm obviously some sweat but i imagine hes shockingly well groomed so most of the smell would some kind of pine adjacent fragrance that bleeds into a subtler sweetness like juniper berry.

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>>146601326
The "sweaty" kind of smell you get when you go to a changing room in a busy gym

>>146587444
Alfred Nobel pretty much blew himself and an entire warehouse up while inventing dynamite (a solid/safe form of nitroglycerine), and then saw his invention used to murder people by the dozens with each dynamite stick, so it is perfectly understandable that he'd want his legacy to be giving awards and money to whoever advances science.

>>146586829
Yeah but the people reading clickbait headlines don't have the brain capacity to understand the difference, and the people writing clickbait headlines know this full well.

>>146586845
Bezos deserves all the bad shit he gets, Elon at least interacts with normal people (and him buying Twitter ended up with getting into the US government, so it was a good long term investment even if it looks like a bad short term one).

>>146582388
Even more people wanting to pump Knives Chau full of cum.

>>146601744
>Elon at least interacts with normal people
Honest question, who? Like, what normal people?

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>>146601769
He spends hours shitposting on twitter, at one point some rando suggested him to drop the tesla car price to 69420$ on twitter, and he did it. Also he had a literal goth waifu, as in married to one. Marrying their goth waifu is basically the life goal of many people here on /co/.

He's an asshole, but a fun, likeable, and relatively smart one, and if all rich people would be like him then rich people wouldn't be so universally reviled. And you may talk shit about him buying social media platforms for fun, but he also did shit like sell flamethrowers or launch spaceships or create brain-computer interfaces for fun. Which is the kind of crazy shit rich people should fund, not personal joyrides to space.

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>>146601705
That's the stuff, keep going, do you want to try describing Young Neil?

>>146588182
Men have done nothing but take responsibility for absolutely everything since the beginning of time even when it kills them, give them a break

>>146601897
Dude none of that sounds normal or is making me like him. Hes a deadbeat dad, trustfund brat, corporate autocrat, controlling propagandist with a plastic surgery addiction. Which frankly is his most endearing quality. Hes always seemed like a surface level nerd to me and its not as though he's really participated in much of his "successes". Im not going to try to convince you i guess but its just odd to me to hear that because elon is like my quintessential mental image of a weak man in power. His kids dont even like him. And i dont think hes ever had a normal person to person exchange, its always tainted by his inordinate hoarde of ill gotten gains. Like even if we legitimized his wealth, we shouldnt and i never will, its a major barrier between him and anyone else. I dont think billionaires can be normal, its hard even for just a *millionaire* to be normal. Its not their fault per se, whose there to keep them in check? Theyre spoiled.

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>>146601955
Ok that actually scored a small belly laugh from me, nice sis

>>146601897
>fun, likeable
He's reddit incarnate, at least praise Trump who who's actually funny and has a semblance of charisma instead of dicksucking chris-chan with more money, him making trannies seethe isn't a good enough excuse for that.

>>146582536
Yeah and then the Penguin destroys her gang and puts her prison.

>>146584384
That's because George Miller was the one who made it. He obviously didn't have contempt for his own movies the way new directors hate old stuff.

>>146602044
Hes more of a punchline for us than a source of anger. Or like, its both? But we tend to mock what has bothered us. Its hard to explain, sort of a black humor.

Why didn't they just make a sequel where Scott and Ramona are together and move the story along like usual instead of making it this alternate thing? If comic Scott was still a dickhead apparently then why didn't they just make a series about that instead and have him working towards better himself for Ramona instead of making him the bad guy?

>>146602145
You mean like, an animated sitcom with whacky nerd culture references? Honestly i really liked Takes Off. Good music, nice animation, cute story and its always fun to see an AU in a series that hasn't done them to death. I liked it and id have been disappointed by just scott and ramona throwing hadokens at the PTA meeting.

>>146602007
>its just odd to me to hear that because elon is like my quintessential mental image of a weak man in power.

It's odd because that's not what he is, he's just a likeable rich asshole, which is the complete opposite of most rich assholes.

>I dont think billionaires can be normal, its hard even for just a *millionaire* to be normal.
I'm a millionaire and I'm normal, hell, less than normal. And the only reason I am one is because billionaires keep fucking up the economy so the inflation can turn them into trillionaires.

>>146602044
>He's reddit incarnate,
Reddit is basically 00s 4chan minus the porn, so that's not a bad thing.

>at least praise Trump
Fuck off back to /pol/.

Between the comics, game and live action movie there was already plenty of Scott Pilgrim I don't begrudge them for wanting to do something different with the series. I hope this is the end of the IP though, haven't we had enough?

>>146602239
>It's odd because that's not what he is, he's just a likeable rich asshole
>i'm a millionaire
Huh, jeez. Weird. Wonder why you seem to like him as a "likeable rich asshole" gee, iTs sTiLL a MySTeRy~

>>146602320
Being a millionaire is fucking nothing today, at best it allows you to live as a middle class person from the 50s.

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>>146602544
please nigger, I've been on /co/ way back when it was still a 7chan board. I bet you don't even remember what Colette is a nickname for.

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>>146602239
>Reddit is basically 00s 4chan

>>146581861
You grew up.