kek the ladybird kids book version of Mr Incredible is a bigger asshole than the movie
>Mr Incredible told Buddy that fancy boots didn't make somebody into a Super.>>Supers were born, not madeUnfathombly based. I see why in the early world building he was best buds with Gamma Jack
>He asked Mr Incredible if he>>>>could be his side kickGreat formattingBuddy looks like an ageing manGo faster lines in the background are distracting
>>151260346Hm?
>>151260346heh
>>151259977I still don't understand why didn't just prove Incredible wrong by using technology to be a better super than him.
>>151261576Why build yourself up when it's easier to tear someone else down?
>>151261576Well, there was a law that kinda got in the way.
>>151261652You think he'd care?
>>151260330Yeah what the fuck is that formatting lol
>>151259977>but Mr. Incredible told Buddy he looks too Jewish to be a heroWhoa, they sell that to kids?
>>151259977https://youtu.be/OmmNpZWNmQI
>>151261652There was? Or are you talking about the anti-super law
>>151259977>Leftytard writer seething at lolbertarian movie.
>>151260055>images (98)
>>151259977This is how Syndrome remembers it
>>151259977I'll always remember walking out of the theater thinking how desperately I wanted to have cool-ass powers, but having internalized the film's message, feeling the hole in the pit of my stomach suspecting that I wasn't born special and probably never would be. Brad Bird's a menace.
>>151259977But he's right. Buddy didn't care about helping others he just wanted to be cool by mooching off Mr. Incredible. It's not about the powers it's about heart. That's why MHA sucks.
>supers are born, not madeDoes anybody else believe THIS would be more of a valid reason of why Syndrome hated supers and attempted mass genocide? Mr.Incredible at least lets him down gently in the film, but here? He's basically telling Buddy to go fuck himself.
>>151259977When I was really young (4ish), I came across a picture book adaptation of Toy Story 1 like that. It opened with "Andy saved all his money to buy Buzz Lightyear" immediately followed by Woody warning the other toys not to play with Buzz's buttons because it could be "dangerous" and I immediately stopped reading in disgust.
>>151264192Teenagers want to be cool by mooching off role models, and then learn to be their own person.
>>151259977It's more like an old soldier who has seen a lot of his friends die not wanting some fresh faced little kid, who has no idea how dangerous that life is, getting into the same shit he went into.
>>151264327None of that is implied. If Mr. I felt that way, he wouldn't have encouraged his own kids to use their powers before the movie's events.
>>151264201I wouldnt say bob let him down gently in the movie but it is gentler than the book obviously. Really if he took five seconds to sit with buddy and explain how he doesnt want a kid to die there wouldnt be a issue. That or do the smart think and get him a internship with Edna. He gets experience and guidance and would probably become a future ironman after coming in contact with all those supes
>>151262506>fly home homo
>>151259977YWNBAH
>>151259977I remember as a kid I got a book that said Syndrome wasn't Buddy but Mr. Incredible's old boss or something. I vividly remember that because it confused me.Also my parents got me a logo shirt & I wrote S on it for syndrome in sharpie. Not a big one. Don't know why I did it.
>>151261652Yeah because there's totally not laws against murder and kidnapping
>>151264445>I wouldnt say bob let him down gently in the movieIn the movie it was strongly insinuated that this wasn't the first time this shit happened. What you saw wasn't Bob's first or even second or third time dealing with this. It's like when you see a parent yell at their kid in the grocery store. You only see the breaking point not all the times they tried to calm the brat down reasonably.
>>151261652>>151262517The precedence was set when one law-suit determined saving people is a no-no, and apparently it was so big of a landmark case in-universe that it destroyed the super-hero industry of saving people. Although if we look at Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, (and some of Justice League) there are topics about this of super-heros being de-powered so it de-incentivizes super-villians from appearing. (I think this appears in X-men as well). Which was a major crux of Batman returning and the Joker becoming reactivated. Though then the circular/loop logic of, villains and criminals appear regardless. I think Batman: The Dark Knight Returns probably is the most realistic of this phenomenon.
>>151264625Actually, now that I am mulling this over more, there are cross-overs to the idea between the ending of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and the Incredibles. In that, both form or become a kind of secret, behind the scenes super-hero police-force task-force.
>>151264617Buddy's a teenager. At that point, continued acting out isn't just a fact of childhood, it's a failure of authority figures to correctly handle the issue. The dude you replied to is correct, he should have gotten Buddy in touch with Edna. She would have kept him in line and then Bob could have played the good cop and extracted better behavior out of him.But I will say that what actually happened is firmly in line with the midcentury sensibilities, in that it accurately echoes how the G-Gen fucked up Boomers.
>>151264625That's not entirely accurate. Joker was the only one who came back because of Batman. The Mutant Leader was already leading the mutants rampaging through Gotham. Two-Face was happening regardless of Batman because Harvey's psychosis got worse.
The guy in Incredibles 2 who's rich and wants to bring supers back is what Syndrome could have been without the egomania. So was Edna who just wanted to make costumes for them.
>>151264721>>151264625I'd go New Frontier myself. Though I don't know how well Incredibles would handle the red scare
>>151264743HE'S NOT BUDDIES DAD. He doesn't owe him anything more than a GO AWAY KID YA BOTHER ME
>>151264625Not just one lawsuit, but two which lead to a mass influx of lawsuits from all corners.The first being a guy who was in the middle of committing fucking suicide. The crux was literally someone who was gonna be a splat on the pavement getting a hurt neck and having a temper tantrum over non-consensual heroism.
>>151264773>Commit suicide on impulse like most cases>Get saved but paralyzed>Now angry and bitter and stuck in a chair.Most realistic part of the movie.
>>151264807True, but he wasn't stuck in a chair.
>>151261576Because that would go against brad birds retarded Nietzsche bullshit, which is the whole point of the film that supposed supermen (ubermensch) shouldn't be held back by a herd morality
>>151260055>>151259977Wouldn't this make syndrome come off more right?
>>151264861Okay so I'm watching the scene of the emerging lawsuits again and uhhhh, anyone notice how the guy was moving his head normally nine seconds in while later his lawyer kept placing his hands on the guy while he moved?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4J-Fuo0vLE
>>151265001No because he's a fraud who couldn't handle his own creation & he plans to sell his tech to anyone. Ultimately creating chaos.
>>151259977>>151260055>>151265001It means you have to be born with a good heart, not that Bob was a supremacist. Bob's actions in the movie are basically entirely based off his drive to returning to being a Super and helping people. He has an entire wall of his achievements that he's proud of. You gotta save a lot of lives to have a wall THAT impressive.
>>151265070Yeah! Only those who are born able to fly should be allowed to do it! Don't let those inferiors be equal to their ubermensch superiors!!
>>151264958Except he's the villain whose entire purpose is to be proven wrong so that would actually line up nicely when the good guys win.
>>151265235This but unironically. If you've seen the files on the other heroes, you'd know most of them weren't good people. Sometimes it's better if only a select few have powers & not EVERYONE.
>>151265311Exactly, if Syndrome succeeded in proving that hard work is more important than being born "special" it would go against brad's retarded ideology. Good thing they murdered the only guy trying to make everyone special so us ubermensch don't have to be held back by inferiors like you.
>>151265365>The "chosen few" being supremacists proves only a select few should have absolute powerAnon...
>>151265396Literally most of them have mental problems or abuse their powers for their own gain. Gamma Jack killed villains outright. It took only one guy to do away with them in the end. Doesn't mean everyone should gain their same powers. This isn't a gun analogy or a race thing.
>>151261576you either become batman or a villain, by the coin of fate his inciting incident turned him into a villain. he could have used mr. incredible's dismissal as a challenge something to prove wrong for the betterment of man, he instead took it as an excuse for his worst impulses.
>>151264314I would like to see this
>>151265445Yeah obviously power should remain in the hands of those few born with it. There's obviously no way you can relate this principle to anything else. It's better if the only way to potentially deal with them trying to take over is hope some genius billionaire can lure them to an island, one at a time, to fight a robot.
>>151265075Ayn Rand movie
>>151265928Bob literally goes through a mid-life crisis (physical and emotional) over this shit, but his resolution is him accepting that his family is there to support him and he should be there for THEM. The much-belated second movie muddies things a lot as Bob basically goes through that resolution again for no reason.
>>151264201Syndrome brought this up near the climax at their house. Something something “I beat without needing to be born with powers!”. So obviously that was part of his dislike for bob.Makes me think that might have been a cut plotpoint of the film, cut because people would obviously side with Syndrome on that
>>151264770That's not how it works. It takes a village. In a society, you're responsible for the kids in your vicinity. Especially if you're uniquely positioned to be a positive influence in their lives.
>>151266429It's probably why they have him get beat up by a baby instead to cement those without superpowers stand no chance.
>>151259977This is the exact same thing he did in the movie, just with slightly different words. How is he more of an asshole?
>>151260055Did you retards not understand the themes of this movie? None of this is new.
>>151264201He literally says in the movie that this is what it was about you piece of trash bot.
>>151266429IT'S NOT CUT IT'S IN THE MOVIE YOU BROWN RETARD YOU JUST FUCKING SAID SOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>151261576He didn't WANT to be a better super than him, he wanted to spite him.
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>>151259977>every bad person in these movies is non-powered>all the supers are good peopleWhat did Brad Bird mean by this?
>>151267879How about you try FIGURING IT OUT it's not that hard to understand if you think for three seconds. Fuck you. I will not spoonfeed you. And I'm the only non bot here so you have no choice.
>>151267767No the movie plays up the I work alone angle.This seems like a script where the supers being superior is more heavily emphasized
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>>151259977Damn...see, there was a redemption potential for THAT scenario. Buddy could have changed his mind by doing some heroic shit while Mr. incredible was busy doing something he thought was much more important, only to hear later what Buddy did and how he was badly injured, but save a bunch of lives. Granted, he would have ended up in the hospital and gotten the apology while beat all the fuck up and having almost died, but still...
>>151261635Spoilers: you've just revealed how women in general think. Scary that most men still haven't noticed this.
>>151268191Lots of men are women brained then
>>151268030Why don't pajeets even know what subtlety is? Do they not have that in poop land? I know they don't teach them about our shit before letting them into English speaking countries or English speaking websites.
>>151260055Wait, was Mr. Incredible’s supe name a take-off of the 1940s Mister Terrific?
>>151268679Bot
>and when everyone's super...no one will beSyndrome's ultimate goal, at its core, is the erasure of individuality, even all the way back when he was Buddy, he didn't try to make a name for himself, he just took Bob's name, without his knowledge, consent or approval.Bob associated himself with people like Gazerbeam, Elastigirl and Frozone, their powers are an intrinsic part of their identities, so when Bob goes out of his way to vehemently state that Incrediboy is not in any way affiliated with Mr. Incredible, to Buddy, he is stating that Buddy is appropriating his very culture, Buddy's response to this is to destroy the people behind that culture and then the culture itself.
>>151268191The absolute irony of replying to someone who made a point about how tearing someone down is easier than improving yourself by going on the most stereotypical incel tantrum of "WOMEN BAD I AM MAN."
>>151264958Except that's not what Brad put in his own movie? He just didn't want an inexperienced narcissistic kid getting in the way and endangering everyone around him.
>>151268561Lots of men are raised by single women.
>>151260055For me, it is Gazerbeam.
>>151267858Did he just blowjob him to death?
>>151271054thatll teach luthor. what a fag
>>151264761Would there even be a Red Scare? Unless superheroes just suddenly emerged in the 50's the US would've had supers able to clear out the USSR in Operation Unthinkable. Imagine 300 nuclear bombs combined with tank divisions torn apart by super-strength.
>>151261576he's like lex luthor, he has the ability to make the world better, but he's to much of an asshole to do that
the book misses the point. when buddy remembers the interaction, its not how it actually happened. buddys remembering it as incredible doing nothing but admonishing buddy. what actually happened is incredible is literally holding bomb voyage, an active threat and looking to the side to tell buddy "holy shit this guy has bombs, you should leave".
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>>151271189I mean, it's the storybook version; things change to fit the format. It didn't have him die gruesomely, either.
>>151259977Kind of sad they do not challenge that ever I. The movies.
>>151264201>attempted mass genocide?To be fair, those were just supers. The omnibot attack was just reckless endangerment.
>>151272044Supers were the group of minorities Syndrome was attempting to genocide, yes.
>>151260055it amazes me that they haven't done a glory days prequel
>>151271154There was an in-universe cartoon of Mr. Incredible and Frozone that had as its main antagonist a Soviet supervillain.
>>151271189>>151271236
I don't think a good person would name himself "Syndrome".
