Was adventure time really THAT influential on modern cartoons? Was it the first goofy cartoon to have deep lore, emotionally-attachable characters and deal with "serious issues"?Would cartoons like SVTFOE, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe Amphibia, Owl House be the same without adventure time?
>>152559580Yes dude AT was a massive massive hit for cartoon network. It really was AT that gave us a revival for GOOD animation in the 2010's
>>152559660Pathetic lmao
>>152559580Without Adventure Time, Paw Patrol would've been the decade's only hit and the industry would've flocked to toddler cartoon spam sooner
>>152559580Adventure Time was influential in a bad way, it paved the way for wokeness in animation. The show really should’ve ended at season 2.
>>152559709Noooo don't say thatNow every lesbian and troon in a 5 thread radius will be sucked into this thread to shit it up
I honestly have not watched adventure time until about a month ago. I've watched every other show i've mentioned. So I had no idea how nonexistent shows like them were before adventure time.I only liked those shows when I was younger because I liked funny and cool shit that has some sort of passion behind it. I do watch other types of shows now but I admit to defaulting towards those shows because they're just familiar to me in a way. "Wait, what do you mean the shit i liked wasn't as meta and emotionally intelligent and a mixture of funny haha & serious shit that can also be labled as "genuinely good""
>>152559580It's not super complicatedcartoons used to never be allowed to really have a plot, or hint at anything heavy, or say mildly sexual things. This cartoon had a chill attitude like yeah of course we can. We grew up on anime.now do we have an anime budget? hell no. we don't even have a western cartoon budget. we have shoestrings. so we're gonna make the strings wiggle and be silly, because that's ANOTHER thing you never really used to be allowed to do (except by accident) without worrying you were like, a little kids' show. This is adult silliness. Podcast silliness. Pythonesque kinda shit but wayyy more laid back.Finn has a balloon at random, declares it's for "balloon music" which involves him rhythmically rubbing it while rapping "shake your extremities, all your arms and knees, shake your eyes for me." this basically sums it up. It doesn't have to connect to anything, it's just.... not what cartoons were allowed to do, when we grew up. And that's what we wanted.then they ruined everything with the gay. which, yes, that also wasn't allowed, but that's because it doesn't resonate with anyone properly-wired.
>>152559580Yes, it really was that novel at the time of its debut.
>>152559580yes it was the dark souls of cartoons so everyone wanted to be the new adventure time
>>152559709I hiiiiighly doubt that. Buffy and other noncartoon media already exists
>>152559580No that would be like Flapjack. AT really didn't have that much effect in the grand scheme of things despite what dumb poeple here might say while claiming it killed western culture.>Would cartoons like SVTFOE, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe Amphibia, Owl House be the same without adventure time?Probably, most of those shows were inflenced by other stuff. The only one that was directly "made by people who were shaped by AT" was SU but that was more based on 2000s softcore sci-fi anime which is weird since they basically had to remove a good chunk of what made those shows work cause you can't have borderline born on CN.
>>152559580God I hate it here.
>>152561591>adventure time directly influenced hildastopped reading there, dumb bait image
>>152561593Then why are you here, poopboy?You can leave any time.
>>152559580Yeah it signaled the direction shift and reinvented the formula of high stakes + high cost action shows into something that's animation wise super fucking cheap, but still delivered the same type of engagement and look real crazyThe shift towards early teen / YA themes was also noticeable as it was relatable on a level few shows before then were. Then the fans took over and it deteriorated into a drama show
>>152559580it was the reason they stopped buying shows from reliable old people who knew their stuff
>>152561603Anon I think your a little slow if you think that's what that image is trying to say.
>>152559580>Was it the first goofy cartoon to have deep lore, emotionally-attachable characters and deal with "serious issues"?No.Flopneas and Turd was already doing that. As was FairLy OddParents (pre-season 6, they actually went backward in that regard because Hartman is a Class A boomer fucktard) and Danny Phantom. And much like Adventure Time did in its first few seasons, any time these shows made a major attempt to stir up the formula on the show (Say, a character finding another's secret identity, a shipping plot getting actual progression, etc) it would within a few episodes if not that very episode be reset to status quo. I don't think Adventure Time brought anything new to the table in that regard aside from refining the formula a little bit more, but the first cartoon that sort of attempted to do this was Gravity Falls and even that ended up relying on status quo resets by the end. I don't think Adventure Time is anything remarkable... it came in at a time when there was a rut in animation, was a hit for like one summer in the United States and a few other countries, but then started to become eclipsed by Stephen Universe and DTVA. Remember there even used to be a meme here on /co/ about how Adventure Time constantly lost Emmy awards to "less serious" cartoons.
>>152561608Just to spite faggots like you I suppose.
>>152559580>Was it the first goofy cartoon to have deep lore, emotionally-attachable characters and deal with "serious issues"?No. Off the top of my head, the DCAU has all of those things and predates it by over a decade.But AT was very popular and if I'm remembering correctly, had very little competition around the time it aired; a lot of CN's heavy hitters had ended their run, some of which had been killed off by CN Real. So you have a fairly decent show with no competition, of course it's going to by #1 by default, which then influences everything following it.
>>152562347But you're the one who's getting mad, lol.
>>152559580>>152562416>>152560045Adventure Time was hardly the first kids cartoon with a story. There was the DCAU, Avatar, Teen Titans, Young Justice, Gargoyles, etc.But those were all action cartoons where this was kinda expected. You could tell it by just looking at the art style. The thing about Adventure Time is that it genuinely started out as a dumb episodic cartoon akin to SpongeBob and then it dropped a lorebomb on you with Holly Jolly Secrets. At the time this was a shock because that would just never happen in a cartoon like SpongeBob.That's how it influenced Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, SVTFOE, Owl House, Amphibia. Because those shows all try to pull the same trick, despite it only working in AT because it was a genuine shock.
>>152559580Adventure Time, Gumball & Regular Show were seen as the holy trinity of good cartoons back in the day, almost everything after them somehow felt dieectly inspired by them somehow
>>152562569I used somehow two times oops. Anyways as the others have said adventure time wasnt the first cartoon to do serious stuff but they were one of the first big ones with a silly artstyle to pivot to more serious storytelling pretty early on and was what allowed things like steven universe to pretty much be straight story focused (almost) from the get go while not looking like a DC animated show.Nowadays this isnt novel anymore but one of the reasons why people shat on Clarence and Uncle Grandpa so hard back in 2013-2014 was because everyone wanted more story focused cartoons like Adventure Time, Steven Universe & Gravity Falls rather than another Chowder.
>>152562552>despite it only working in AT because it was a genuine shock.It'd argue It also didn't work in the long term even on AT itself longterm, the following seasons are infamous for poorly executed plots, shipping and some of the most pretentious drama I've seen a show try to pull off.Seriously, why retards thought back in the 10's that a show that has a party wolf as God, has the artstyle of a babyshow and has worldbuilding that includes wacky candy kingdoms should be taken seriously with deep drama?It became a pretentious cartoon for millennial manchildren that paradoxically only pushed the steotype that western animation is for children. No wonder all its derivatives were mostly failures,
>>152562611I was a kid in that era (yes a zoomer, how scandelous) and EVERYONE back then below the age of 15 (fuck i even knew some teenagers that liked watching too) was watching Adventure Time, Regular Show and Gumball. I remember the Princess Flame kiss arc being treated as a mini event with my friend group. Its honestly a shame with the way things are going now with Cartoon Network basically being gone its very hard we are ever getting something like this again aside from sporadic shows that get hyper popular like TADC.
>>152562641Literally no one thought any of this back then lmfao, everyone praised these shows for their storytelling and plot, even with Steven Universe the chud complaint back then is that it was gay not that the story was bad.
>>152562650I reember that Gumball not so much but Adventure Time and ESPECIALLY Regular Show were very popular with the teenagers i used to interact
>>152561722Stfu, subhuman
>>152562674They were wrong
>>152562674>Literally no one thought any of this back thenNo exactly. the DEEPEST LORE meme was used originally specifically to mock these pretentious retards with zero self awareness before they used it unironically.
>>152562569SU was the one artists went crazy for. We’re understating its influence.
Which modern cartoons? It was pretty much the end of the line for modern kids cartoons. There's barely anything worth watching to be influenced by it In the first place.
>>152559709>paved the way for wokeness in animation.No it didnt. Not technically, anyway. Art has always been left leaning, since rightoids are incapable of creating anything.
>>152563364Stfu, you stupid tranny
>>152559580I was born in '96 I just remembered hating this show when it aired because it relied on low effort stoner humor like alot of new cartoons did during that time. Ed Eddie eddy were legitimately funny because it was creative structured physical comedy. Jimmy neutron too. Adventure was just bland randomized cheap nonsense. It felt like Minecraft bland and soulless and had a cringe 2010 college hipster guitar theme song. Compare it to Jimmy neutron, Fairly odd parents, and Kids next door. Sure those series weren't as extensive but those shows were colorful, unique and took more than 2 brain cells to make. Fuck adventure time the fact that so many zoomers grew up with that shit is sad.
>>152563492what do i care what a 30 year old dinosaur thinks?
>>152563492Nice coping
>>152559580Adventure Time benefited from debuting in an era where Cartoon Network allowed unprecedented creative freedom, and the production crew ran with that and started expanding the world and characters as far as they could. I don't think any of the cartoons it influenced were ever quite as varied or ambitious with their own stories, but you can tell AT was the one to pave the way for serialization in cartoons that were seemingly comedic and nothing more.
>>152563604Adventure time isn't a creative series.
>>152563620>>152563594
Yes. If the 2000's were dominated by SpongeBob clones the 2010's was dominated by Adventure Time. I don't think Gravity Falls exist because of Adventure Time but the whole lore sneak concept was made viable thanks to it. Almost every show afterwards attempted to balance that same level of silly fun with real, hard hitting mental health awareness and that's why the 2010's sucked so fucking hard. Everything was just Infinity Train>>152559709lol if anything "paved the way for wokeness in cartoons" it was Laura Faust as early as Power Puff Girls
>>152561593You don't hate it here. You just hate retarded faggots.
>>152563658>Laura Faust
>>152562681Gumball I feel got more popular later on when they started doing stuff like the Don't Hug Me I'm Scared sequence, an anime fight or an episode where they kill their Chinese copycays. At least online outside of /co/. I don't remember Gumball being put in the same table as Adventure Time or Regular Show before that
Could Finn and Jake survive in Oblivion?
Come to think of it, did spongebob ever have any emotional moments or continuity or lore or change any of its established setting since it began?
>>152564467He met Sandy in one episode and was her friend ever since. That's the extent of it.
>>152563904It was always considered the weakest of the 3 because it was a pure comedy and didnt have the lore of Adventure Time or the subtle adult humour of Regular Show but it was still considered (maybe not here) to be way better than anything going on back in those days
>>152563237Im not dissing Steven Universe i actually think its very good but Adventure Time attracted a different demographic of artists (deviantart and instagram) to Steven Universe majorly Tumblr and Twitter audience. There was a time during the early 2010s you COULD NOT ESCAPE these noodly arms art style anywhere you went on the internet
4chan made Steven Universe influential, by having it being the only running cartoon featuring musical songs and empowering female characters. SU would not be as remembered if not for 4chan suppression competition.
>>152565762>i actually think its very good
>>152565848Yeah nigga i have a different opinion from you baboons what you gonna do about it
>>152565940Have a better one, you faggot
>>152565955No, its a good show go cry about it
>>152565965Sure thing, you fruit cocktail.
>>152562552>comedy cartoon does.... le serious stuffFairly Oddparents did that first. Ice King was just ripping off Crocker.Saying it influenced stuff like Gravity Falls too shows you're completely fucking retarded, that show was already in early production when AT premiered.
Why do ATfags make their whole identity revolve around claiming credit for other, better cartoons that came out slightly later?
>>152562831Gtfo, subnormal
>>152566409Stfu, you manletfag
>>152566388>Ice King was just ripping off Crocker.Nice retardation
>>152559580This show's artstyle always makes me nostalgic. I've never seen more than 3 episodes but it makes me nostalgic.
Yes actually Mr. Ward invented animation
