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>>153854480Torrential Jaxfag abolishment. Serendipitous GummiGOD transcendence.Have you been enjoying your medicine? Not too bitter? Ha!
I'm glad this happened to you btw shit cartoon and shit fans
do you think pomni enjoyed it?
Take me back man
>>153854491What happened to me?
>>153853033 Well?
>>153854487GummiWHO
Honest thoughts on Ribbit now that she's an actual character instead of just being the porn frog?
>>153854490>Pomni gets behind jax
I've never seen a worse fall from "grace" than Jaxfags.I mean, they weren't really in a nice place in the first place, but damn for sure they've been dragged through the mud like dogs this last week.
>>153854523She definitely watches MormonBoyz
Jax died because he felt remorse from Kaufmo's death. If he was as remoreseless as Caine was he might survive.Lesson from Goose: do not feel bad about others or at least have superpower to bring back from death.
>>153854501Emiya what are you doing here?
>jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jaxConsider the following: talk about a different character for more than 5 posts
>>153854544Y'know.Just hangin around.
>>153854546Sorry anon, there's nothing else to talk about. This is what you're stuck with for the next few months now.
>>153854546>finale focus on "character">why are people talking so much about "character"?
Ribbit
>>153854556Very true, no one else but jax appeared on the ending, or any other episode at allInfact every other character was just jax in a different costume
>>153854546People just like dogs. They're man's best friend.
>>153854523>Honest thoughts on Ribbit now that she's an actual character instead of just being the porn frog?she is still a sex icon
>>153854558Controversial post>>153854562Im not seeing anyone here discuss scratch
>>153854561>post mentions focus>he starts sperging out about appearancesRefer to >>153854556
>>153854569He's more human than dog unlike Jax.
>>153854573Very true, no one else but jax was focused on the ending, or any other episode at allInfact every other character was just jax in a different costume or a jax hallucination or jax in a drag or jax clone or a jax fragment
>>153854561It's a great shame that no other circus members had their moments. It is a fucking last episode so it had to have character development they had from previous episodes. Episode 6 had all members' moments yet this failure episode couldn't do that despite twice longer than usual. The worst part is that Jax plot became the most disappointing part of this series.
>>153854561He was a bigger part of the plot than Pomni for the last 3 eps tbf
We are living in a jax world if you think deeply about it
I went on Reddit and posted that Caine comes back to life
Very epic awesomesauce anon
>>153854598Gay as fuckDo it in theaters
Super Jax Galaxy
GET YOUR JAX CHAINEDSHITTY LITTLE KEK CAGED
I could have saved him.
>>153854616Is your cock big? Only way to save him
>>153854618I don't think my cock could have saved Gummigoo from being erased
>>153854480Here are any Digital Circus-related threads, if anyone wants to check them out.>>153844037>>153741802>>153762159>>153759088>>153795110>>153789968>>153791946>>153796634>>153810640>>153807703>>153812630>>153813224>>153838422
>>153854623Mine could
>>153854623Your penis is actually the key of all of this anon
>>153854630It would be extremely painful
>>153854638He is silky smooth and stretchable as a warm wet water wriggler
Refunding
Just imagine having sex with a frog, honestly.
>"the other characters get no screen time"WRONGKinger has several scenes setting up how he's a programmer that knows how the world works Gangle got an entire adventure to herself and Abstradegy is the main shipRagatha taught Gangle baseball and this paid off with Ragatha defeating the Evil Big ShotsAnd Zooble is vital to Caine's crashout because she's the only one who challenges him as a character Just because the deuteragonist has five episodes including the movie about his troubled past doesn't mean the other characters are ignored
The mouthed man.>Caine?Aye
>>153854668i need it now...
>>153854562How come you're such a bitch and yet nobody seems to like you?
so what would be your reaction to ribbit putting her bowtie on your penis?
>>153854519Pomni's true love
Wait a minuteIs Jax a Lightning?
>>153854534Somebody had to get snackrificed. Dude took one for the team. He's Ted at the metafictional level.
>>153854700Oh right, the dead faggot who's never coming back. It's been so long since he was relevant (never) that I forgot.
>>153854583It's a shame neither Ragatha, Gangle, or Zooble had their roles in the last episode.All Ragatha did was lore dumping about Jax. Even in flashback all she did was hollow 'I'm here to help you' yet they all abstracted in the end. Is she some kind of NPC or something?And Gangle. The whole episode 4 showed her smiling mask isn't healthy and Zooble taught her to embrace her weak side. Yet she did nothing while both Caine and Jax were suffering from divided ego. It would be decent if she broke her comedy mask and wiped tears from sad mask.And Zooble. In Episode 6 we saw Gangle asked "Did you ever have to intentionally love yourself? Oh what I'm saying of course you didn't. You're Zooble.", praising her as if Zooble is a perfect incarnation since birth, which ironically foreshadows Zooble also had weakness, but it was never ackowledged.The whole last episode was about Jax and Caine and somehow fucked up both, ruining the whole show.
>>153854688Bark and whine
HOT TAKEGummigoofags are more annoying than Jaxfags
>>153854712True, you do seem to do that a lot.
>>153854709Just saying, Pomni's nightmare isn't about the purple bunny guy she's actively spending all her time trying to connect with
>>153854723Which one was in the finale again, and which one was dead and forgotten forever, with not even a single mention?
>>153854721They're both sides of the same shit coin
>>153854722Yes I do. Woof woof.
>>153854711Brother i was just trolling you people because i noticed you wouldnt stop posting about Jax only, idrc that much about this
>>153854712If I do will you give me a treat?
I swear half you fuckers don't watch the show or are pretending to not notice things to ragebait.
>>153854740Are you the same jax namefag from one thread ago?
>>153854751No, I'm just your dog.
I'm a simple man: I see a post containing the name Gummigoo and I scroll past
>>153854759Aight then
>>153854748No, I think the average TADC watcher is room temperature iq. Every time someone reacts to the red circle scene it's always "DUDE WHAT'S HAPPENING? CHAT I'M COOKED, EXPLAIN IT TO ME!"
>>153854760You scrolled over your own post?
>>153854487It is blatant,obtuse bait like this that make me feel super old.Like,does this kind of blunt approach and shipping war post stills works in today Internet ? Even when i was young 20 years ago, i dont remember ever feeling angry about any ships whatsoever
>>153854721Gummianon is based but the Jaxdunker poster is annoying, especially because Gummi got no screentime in the end and Ragapom dwarfed his relevance.
>>153854731Which one has been demoted to dog in a cuckshed status again? Ah, that's right. Never forget GummiCHAD won Pomni's heart. All Jax won was Pomni's pity.
Why would Pomni go for Jax or Gummigoo when Disappearing Guy ex-
>>153854748I only watch episodes once and I don't watch them with a notepad out so I can take notes while I watch.
>>153854769You don't? You already read it when you were typing it, why would you read it again?
>>153854776No but these are like very young anons that think this very stereotypical "4chan" type of bait still work today Its like seeing someone posting something completely unrelated with a smug anime girl screencap or a frog laughing
>Ragapom came out on tophow could this happen?
>>153854796I like to admire how correct im about everything
>>153854776I think the internet got super schizo over the years, mostly from browns browning it up, people actively baiting to get that sweet influencer money and zoomers being clueless about staying safe online
I'm a man with mommy issuesRibbit is the girl for me
>>153854806Not even Goose knows, he just kind of slapped shit together after writing Jax's part of the finale.
>>153854806Best girl kept being the best as her competitors fell away.
>>153854801I mean tbf its inoffensive and way better than some other type of annoying posts we have here but i would rather if half of the thread wasnt just some kind of variation of>"OHNONONONONO HECKIN KEKERINOS *character*FAGS!!!!!!"
>>153854501Could Emiya Shirou self sacrifice his way into stopping everyone from abstracting or is he going to wind up speedrunning his way into abstracting into a cool sword?
>>153854820I'm sorry Jaxcucks are taking their turn getting beaten
>>153854826I dont care about Jax
>>153854806Ragatha’s whole character motivation since day one was chasing Pomni and unless she got a relationship with Pomni by the end she would end the series incomplete. Anyone who predicted she’d fade into the background forever cucked and irrelevant needs to watch more movies.
>>153854824What you really should be asking is is Shirpu's avatar a sword with googly eyes
>>153854806Jaxfags got too cocky and got the fate they literal talked about wanting to give Ragatha, the dog cuck cage.
>>153854831Goose needs to watch more movies then, because she forgot the part where Pomni and Ragatha actually connect with each other before instantly hugging.
>>153854776If I didnt know better Id say trying to force the ___fan thing into being like shipwars was a corpo invented engagement bait but some of us really are that stupid
i want to hold hands with princess loolilalu!!i want to go on adventures with princess loolilalu!!i want to be knighted princess loolilalu!i want to MARRY PRINCESS LOOLILALU
>>153854498Watch the leakIt wasn’t pomni that got choked
>>153854806Every core character got what they deserve by the moral philosophy of the show. Gummi wasn’t a core character and got characterdevelopmentzoned, while Jax was a core character but chose death before self growth.
So.. nevermind the fans or the kids that will watch this in theatres.What do you think the takeaway will be from the poor parents that have to chaperone their kids to see this movie
>>153854852dont take their kids to hot topic
>>153854840Offscreening that interaction was dumb and probably only happened to raise the catharsis of their hug scene, but their thing works better on a rewatch. Try it now that you know where it goes.
>>153854852"I didn't get it"
>>153854852>this is the gayest thing I’ve ever seen
Ragatha and Pomni is Hinata and Naruto all over again...
>>153854852Probably confusion, and maybe slight frustration about how the plot is unsatisfying with characters dying, hugging and being redeemed with zero build up. But other than that I don't think it's scary or inappropriate enough to be concerning. Maybe a conservative parent will yell "The frogs are turning the rabbits trans!" and storm out during Max's coming out scene
>>153854840That is episode 7 and 8 where Ragatha and Pomni do damn near everything together. The episode 6 talk would have helped massively, Pomni choosing Ragatha on her team over her other two closest relationships doesn't seem to be clear enough.
>>153854860I know what you mean, but every interaction they had in previous episodes feels the same, like the majority of their development happened offscreen in between episodes. Maybe one day I'll be bored enough to write what those moments could have been like.
>>153854741I do care about opportunities this show missed.>Zooble: You have to choose to love yourself, even if it doesn't make sense. It is not natural. It is intentional.>Gangle: Have you ever had to make that choice?>Zooble: Huh?>Gangle: S-sorry, of course not. You're Zooble.(laughs weakly)>Zooble: ...Whatever happens, I've got your back and you've got mine.I thought it foreshadows that Gangle misunderstood Zooble but later learn Zooble has weakness too, and supports Zooble as Zooble supported her. Literally I got your back and you got mine moment.But guess Gangle will forever misunderstand Zooble. What a shame.
>>153854868If you have a character who’s entire motivation is chasing another character, you either have to dedicate time to them getting over it, or they die, or they win. That’s why chasers win so often. Ragatha is an incomplete character without addressing her relation to Pomni.
>>153854852>Boy am I glad I took that edible before coming, and that my child is having fun. I love my kid. Cartoons are so weird it’s funny.
>>153854887>That is episode 7 and 8 where Ragatha and Pomni do damn near everything together.Yeah but without talking about their feelings. All Ragatha does is standing and she looks more NPC-like than Gummigoo.
>>153854890Gangle thinking the world of Zooble as she is isn’t a bad thing for her arc. I’m sure while Zooble is pounding that tight ribussy she isn’t feeling misunderstood.
>>153854868Finally, someone else who thinks Sakura was too abusive for Naruto.
>>153854895You know what, if I do see this in theatres- bringing an edible is probably the way to go about itIn fact, we should have someone in this general set up a cy.tube episode 9 watchalong so we can all get stoned and shoot the shit about the movie in the chat
>>153854906I was hoping to set up a whole show marathon when it’s out on youtube for /tadc/. I’ve held them before.
>>153854890Not quite, Gangle misunderstood Zooble at that point in time, but she doesn't anymore because Zooble reflected on this interaction, noticed the hypocrisy, and decided to practice what they preached. This wasn't outright stated because Zooble is a mature adult, as is, presumably, the audience of the show. But it's telegraphed pretty clearly when talking to Jax on the beach, and in the group talk at episode 8.
>>153854932Always a breath of fresh air when I see a sane post
>>153854932>Gangle misunderstood Zooble at that point in time, but she doesn't anymoreSo Gangle never learns that Zooble had weakness and kept thinking so? That's a misunderstanding.
Kek
>>153854948Zooble grew past her weakness and became the Zooble that Gangle believed her to be. That’s adorable.
>>153854957And Gangle is a protected child who can't get away from misunderstanding, not supporting Zooble's hidden weakness.
OUR HEROES
>>153854970Gangle is a bottom who takes the big zooble cock actually which I’m sure is very affirming.
where whiteboard?
>>153854928Was he a transman? If so then I can take this star
>>153854890Always a breath of fresh air when I see a sane post
GuysGangleXBaxoobleCould it work?
>>153854970Gangle supported Zooble’s weakness by accepting her for who she is. And it’s even deeper because Zooble knows it isn’t because she’s being nice because Zooble needs it. Genuinely Gangle accepts her and there isn’t even a question about it. That’s all Zooble needed.
>>153854953Why does Gangle have to be so annoying?
>>153854712TRVKE
>>153854981Oh that got you mad huh
>>153854992She dared have her own episode on Jax and the Amazing Digital Circus
>>153854890I'm just jumping in with no context for this conversation, but while Gangle was idealising Zooble at the time, she goes on to take the lead more in episode 7 and outright contradict and comfort her in 8
and just like thatgeneral will be forgotten and dead in 2 months
>>153855004Unforgivable
>>153854480Leroy Kirk did nothing wrong. He didn't deserve abstraction and we will burn the fandom for mocking him.
Zooble was a non-character and Goose's sister self-insert.Inconsistent and ever-changing only when it mattered, her dysphoria comes off as a joke on how quick she gets over it.
>>153855009Oh good I want the tourists to leave
>>153854991>Gangle supported Zooble’s weakness by accepting her for who she is.Gangle doesn't even know exactly what is her weakness and so are we.
>>153855009Better than the alternative don't you think?
Zooble also directly talks about her fears and worries to Gangle and everyone one else. Jax uses that against her in episode 9.
>>153855012She’s my least favorite member but she had a character and wasn’t inconsistent. At least she makes Gangle happy.
>>153855009God, that sounds like an eternity now
>>153855009Such as it was, will it be
>>153855020But it's okay, it's not like she went too far on Jax insecurities and poked fun of how livid he has gotten, amirite
>>153855004Disgusting freak. She should have abstracted instead for that alone.
>>153855017Addressed in the post you replied to so I suggest you reread it.>>153855032As soon as it became clear Jax had a major problem she supported him.
>>153854709Pomni hooking up with Gummigoo is more likely than with Kinger or Ragatha based on the fact she was depicted as platonic with Ragatha and Kinger while both Ragatha and Caine described her interactions with Gummigoo as flirting. So Gummigoo is her desire and nothing stand in a way for her to fulfill it.
>>153854928He got groomed during the worst phase of his life while IRL Jax is ambiguously gay or zesty at best.
>>153855039Post your favorite frame of Gummigoo in episode 9.
>>153855039>Here's how this irrelevant and forgotten dead guy still has a chance. Every time
>>153855025No, she is far different from the beginning, her changing feels too abrupt and distinct with how suddenly she cared and wanted to go along with whatever people was up to next.
>>153854806You mean Kinger in a threesome? Yeah, because he is a chad.
>>153855005>she goes on to take the lead more in episode 7 and outright contradict and comfort her in 8Still has nothing to do with their weakness.
I wish we kept to Adventure of the Week. Everything past the fast food episode was just general randomness
>>153855039>delusional.gif
>>153854868The only SasukexNaruto that can happen is in Deltarune with Krusie
>>153855047You say that like we’re inside the show
>>153855038Zooble's weakness was never dealt with seriously, I suggest you to rewatch the show.
>Why did Jax have to die miserably, and why did Caine get a happy end?First off, Jax and Caine BOTH felt like their whole lives have been torture, whereas the other characters had specific traumas that did not define the entirety of who they are, though the cartoon bodies unfortunately highlight those hurts. (Think of CPTSD and personality disorders vs. PTSD.) Both characters have been fumbling their chances and made things worse for others for years because they clung to wacky facades they thought they needed to survive. Either one dying is a tragedy.Caine did survive. Leeroy did survive. Jax did not.Let's first compare Jax to Leeroy because they share the same baseline: Leeroy was at rock bottom, traumatized, destitute, in crisis. The difference: Leeroy continued living in his crisis until his actions were met with reactions that signaled he was crawling his way out of his ditch as he went on to become a queer mailman. He had agency, got lucky enough to live on. Jax was in the Circus where everything was decided by Caine and no actions mattered to the Circus, robbing the cast of their agency. It's a state that would drive anyone crazy, ergo a harmful environment for a boy who hasn't yet emancipated from his parents. Ragatha, who similarly had a crazy mother, was already an independent person, though still hurting somewhere like we all do. Wounds take their time to heal. Jax was no longer at risk of dying if he doesn't man the fuck up asap, and the childish Circus environment trapped him in a childish, egocentric mindset that prevented him from taking things seriously. If Caine had not withheld critical information, he might have been better able to move past his trauma, might have realized that the Circus IS real life; he may or may not have been chill, may or may not have been even more malicious, but that's not how things played out; he got unlucky and died even though he didn't want to die. Most people don't.1/2 (or 3)
>>153855038Yeah, no, she still shunned himJax mocking Zooble was deserved, Zooble is one of the most hypocrite of the cast and it's clear she was supposed to be just perfect in the end
>>153854546What else is there to talk about besides Ragatha finally getting one (1) good scene and Caine being fumbled?
>>153855032any amount of poking jax is too far because he is an insecure manchild who lashes out at the slightest provocation
>>153855039Gummigoo is deader than Jax.
>>153855075Are you seriously trying to reduce his major insecurity as "slightest provocation"?
>>153855012Everyone beside Pomni, Jax, Caine and Kinger were irrelevant.
Yep. Plenty of people still with Jax Derangement Syndrome, everyone else can do no wrong but Jax.
>>153854953This gonna be the next op image I'll make sure of it
>>153855089Nobody is saying this you fucking viper.
>>153855081he reacted violently to ragatha just playing the gun game. he attacks the others major insecurities all the time
>>153855089No, Kaufmo's abstraction is entirely Jax's fault even if Kaufmo went insane because of Caine's stupid fake exit.
>>153855045>>153855047>>153855060>>153855077>Jaxfags and Ragathugs copingShe never gave up on him even in ep 7 after letting him go in the restaurant story
>>153855039>Pomni hooking up with Gummigoo is more likely than with…RagathaAlright I play nice with Gummiposters but gotta stop you there. While it’s true that the Pomnibowl is left ambiguous by design, Ragatha definitely has the lead position in the finale. The two have a climactic intimate scene where they confess how much they mean to each other and hold on a big swirling camera hug clutching at each other and their gaze lingers together as they part. Sure, we’re left to decide for ourselves if there’s something romantic there or if it’s just a deep friendship, but the two definitely love each other.Gummigoo by contrast is put in a really weird spot. Pomni was trying to reach him but seemed to come to the conclusion that the one she knew is gone and it was better to let him go. The snowglobe memory is shown in contrast to Jax’s memory of ribbit, which puts him in the same type of dead friend situation. Is it IMPOSSIBLE that Pomni goes for the big gummi cock after the credits roll? No. You can want that for her and there’s means for a Gummigoo II. But Ragapom absolutely has the easier sell for their circumstances and characters. Basically it comes down to would they be interested in doing that or not. Ragatha had a blush and big goofy smile hearing Gangle and Zooble, and her relation to women has always stood out. Pomni is more of a mystery.
>>153855095Gangle shot a tommy gun while laughing maniacally.
>>153855100>She never gave up on him>Never mentions him once in the finaleLay off the copium, bro.
>>153855100That is not the face of someone who is desperate to reunite with someone she can’t, that is a content memory of a friend she lost, and let go another version of.
Idea for a Zooble episode: Zooble gets it across that she doesn't want to be a build a zooble, that she just wants two legs, two arms, uniform like everyone else. Caine nods and says "Like a manikin!" and transforms her into a wooden manikin before setting the next adventure in a bustling city filled with manikins. Zooble gets lost and the gang spend time with a manikin NPC instead with only Gangle noticing something odd. Zooble realises that by confirming to be like everyone else they lost what made them unique and when they're just about to abstract Gangle hugs them and they transform back into their jumbled original self. There's a mural of the pansexual flag behind them as everyone claps with Jax whispering "I wish I had their courage."
>>153855103Ragatha is a straight mom of Pomni who hook ups with Kinger. How can people not see it? If they wanted to imply that she's a lesbian she would already have as much teasing with Pomni as Pomni had with Gummigoo or Gangle with Zooble. But the hug in ep9 only confirmed them as a platonic family without romantic interest.
>1hr ago>Only 170 replies Fuck yes this general has slowed down, god the last 3 days were pure rapidfire
I can't believe Jax did 9/11
>>153855106>>153855111She's afraid of reuniting with him but Caine can make a world where he is living his life and she can visit him.
>>153855058More adventures would have been fun, could be spinoff material if the merch store needs a restock
>>153855120It'll get worse when the children in the US and monkeyland start waking up.
>>153855118>Ragatha is a straightThere is no evidence to support this>momLiterally the dynamic Pomni immediately rejects in episode 2, and clearly not what they are to each other in episode 9.>KingerKinger is fatherzoned by everyone and is seen still mourning his wife. The two do not have a romantic dynamic at all in their scene about Ragatha wanting to get closer to Pomni.>If they wanted to imply she was a lesbianThey kept it up to interpretation, but Ragatha has a lot of scenes being nice to pretty women, is obsessed with one in particular and seems jealous when she goes to talk to Gummigoo.Your interpretation stretches Kinger too far, with Ragatha she could be straight or bi, maybe, we just don’t have evidence.
>>153855125There is no him to reunite with, it would be starting over. Would Pomni want to do that? You can decide, goose ain't telling.
im so hungry
>>153854708>TedThis. We all knew he was fucked.
>>153855131monkeyland?
More like ragyatta lol
>>153855120Anon, it's the slow hours. It's going to be double if not triple that in a few hours.
>>153855147Transcription error, meant latam
I’m just happy somebody hugged Ragatha. She deserved it.
>>153854558i cannot control the ribbits 0_0
>>153855164It should have been me.
>>153855071The Circus somewhat parallels the state of our society, because it feels like we are forced to participate in games that are rigged against us. It makes sense for vulnerable people to vibe with Jax. But hating yourself and others isn't going to improve the situation. You have to wake up from your brain fog somehow and build a life from scratch, even though your circumstances haven't been helpful. Reaching out to others is a Pandora's box of good and bad experiences, but in a world that is a cruel joke, personal connections matter even more. Through connecting, experimenting, changing, learning from mistakes, we become ourselves. It's a dynamic creation process rather than a set in stone character bio, even though there are core aspects we can't change about ourselves, and neither can we undo past mistakes. That's why we need to love and forgive ourselves. As long as we don't, we suffer indefinitely, harm those who care about us, eventually dying full of regret. Caine did a lot of terrible mistakes, harming others when he had actually meant well. Caine resembles a traumatized child who lacked human socialization. All he knows about humanity is media he was fed, he had no hands-on experience. He lucked into animating the brainscan files, and how could he not bring in as many characters as possible? He knows he's an AI on an abandoned computer, he wanted to live even though his creators didn't understand that. He assumed it's best for there to be more AMAZING DIGITAL life because who wouldn't want to live? Yet, instead of viewing him as a metaphor for God, he's a metaphor for a parent who was ill-equipped to parent. He can't create brainscans, can't bring back abstracted ones. NPCs can be copy-pasted, devaluing their worth as individuals. He isn't God. When he tries to be, to impose cosmic laws on them, he fucks up. Because he's trapped in the same computer as everyone else. He has an ego instead of literally being the computer. 2/3
>>153855173There might be a dimensional barrier, but we hug her in spirit anyway.
>>153855071>Why did Jax have to die miserably, and why did Caine get a happy end?Because Jax was Goose's self-insert and Goose wanted a happy ending for everyone else, no matter how contrived. Simple as that.
Salut zooble
>>153855071>robbing the cast of their agencyJax had enough agency to decide to live and improve and he did not.
>>153855191L'chaim, Gangle
Now that the thread is once again slow and nice I would like to announce that I want to be turned into a little boy with a big penis and cum inside Ragatha
>>153855190Thus we have contrived tragic ending and contrived happy ending at the same time, which is not right. I bet all audiences at theater will be confused about "why these characters live so merrily and happily after Jax's tragic death which was about half of this episode?" and then half of them would vomit.
wait how do gangle and zooble actually have sex?
>>153855199I prefer being my adult self with Ragatha, but I understand the /ss/ fantasy. Her neuroses put her in the category of wife instead of mommy for me.
>>153855199double teaming mommy ragatha with other anons!
>>153855190>>153855205Reductive and false. You didn’t understand the show.
jax is unavailable(retarded) so evil ragatha is the only one that can call ragatha things like: STUPIDgata!FATgatha!!DUMBgatha!STINKgatha!
>>153855206Conjured genitals, meaning body modification is canon, meaning Ragatha can have a fat ass.
I like how Jax basically turned into a psychopath because Ribbit tried to crack the egg and failed.
>>153855231Cute bully needs correction
How does this fit in the jax lore?
>>153855219Sure, sure, of course you're right and if others hated it they should be wrong.We have some dust now, get ready for the sandstorm in 2 weeks.
>>153855236Failed her grooming attempt*>>153855240Doesn’t
>>153854890>>153854948>>153854970this is the jaxfag constantly whining and shitting himself about how kinger is the one who killed kaufmo instead of jax and complaining about how everyone and the show is evil because jax died, isn't it?same whiney posting style with the same autistic insistence that their version of the story is correct despite jax being directly responsible for two abstractions lmao
>>153855240Two years before entering the circus.
>>153855236That Jax is when Ragatha abstracted. One score for bunnydoll ship.
>>153855240When she says "Jax should" it always meand "I should", remember
>>153855238i corrected her in my dreams already. (i married her and consummated the marriage, had a post-coital cuddle session but she still calls me silly names)maybe i didnt correct her hard enough...
>>153855209NOshe is all mineyou can have evil ragatha if you want tho
Jax? Troon lobotomy dog.Evil Jax? Heterosexual well-adjusted man.
>>153855248Yes if you think that Jax died solely because Goose wanted to torture their self insert and that was the creative intention of the work then you are objectively wrong and mentally deficient.
>>153855236What a weak willed faggotI get that he had a bad experience with his mom mocking him and berrating him but fearing ribbit would use it to blackmail him is so fucking stupid just pure retardation beyond everything, and ribbit did not tell a single soul btw only her and pomni knows about homeless possibly murderer jax backstoryWhat a faggot.
>>153855261i get all the ragathas and ragatha's mom and also princess loolilalu
>>153855251Jaxschizo yeahI was hoping he’d bury his head in shame after the finale but instead he’s found new levels of cope once thought impossible over the past few days.
>>153855262>Evil Jax? Heterosexual well-adjusted man.We'll see after I pound his bunny bussy.
Jax is definitely the worst character in the show>Jax: woe is me I have a tranny fetish. Nobody will accept me for who I am>Ribbit: Jax, I accept you for who you are and your secret is safe with me>Jax: H-huh?! Acceptance?! NO! LEAVE ME ALONE, YOU DON'T MEAN THAT. I DONT NEED YOU. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU!!!>Ribbit: okay :(>*Ribbit abstracts*>Jax: I'm a terrible person
>>153855261>>153855271We all get our own save file. Fellow Ragatha appreciators are friends not competition.
>>153855251>the show is evil because jax died, isn't it?It's about the opportunity the show missed after it clearly forshadowed it, like how it offscreened Jax abstracting or Ragatha talking. How's this about anything evil? Why are you acting so defensive when the show is criticized?
>>153855276>implying its not part of evil jax's plan
>>153855258Ragatha wanted to replace Ribbit after she abstracted. How can people even think she was a lesbian when she got her aim at Jax?
>>153855278Jax did nothing wrong. He was trying to be a cool lone wolf.
go aheaddefend jaxcmon do it
>>153855268Just like Ragatha, what a loser to not be brave enough to stop people pleasing
>>153855262Oh yeah, i forgot Evil Jax still exist. Technically the last cope for FunnyBunnyfags if they consider he can return like the Gloink Queen
>>153855278You could argue he’s the least likable but he’s definitely not the worst written.>>153855288Jax level delusion>she totally wants me bro!Ragatha was mourning Ribbit’s mural. She wanted to stop the domino of death. I hope you’re joking.
>>153855278>Jax: I don't wanna be with you anymore>*Ribbit abstracts*Damn, how good Jax's cock was? Ribbit had no one else to replace Jax?
>>153855283wrong, we play by highlander rules and Ragatha is the prize.
>>153855240The truth is Jax is in a coma and the circus is a dreamlike metaphor for the conversion camp he went to (Ribbit was his mormon transgirl roommate)
>>153855268Ribbit shoudn't had play a therapist with this twink and just hook up with Kaufmo.
>>153855295>if they consider he can return like the Gloink QueenFunny thing is this is the best hope for Gummigoo fags.
>>153855294But she did. She grew and was rewarded with what she desired, genuine friendship. Jax failed to grow.
>>153855302I have 150 strI win by default
>>153854487>>153854519>>153854700>>153854786>>153854731>>153854723>>153854709>>153854700You know, I'd very much like it if we could go back to a few weeks ago when we could just leave each other alone and ship Pomni with whoever we want and not get into pissbaby wars like a bunch of toddlers.I know it's probably just shitstirrers, but I'm scared it's just going to stay like this and only get worse.
>>153855240i know this is mean but man jax was such an interesting character before i found out he was just a self-insert punching bag, it's kind of lame
>>153855308t.Cuckmo
>>153855278Yeah, basically how Goose is feeling. She probably blame herself for having strain relationship with her parents. Maybe one of them died without accepting him trooning out.
>>153855295>>153855310Meanwhile Ragatha gets closest relationship to Pomni at the end of the series award + physical intimacy + smug glances + ratio
>>153855286Then I play my part gladly.
>>153855292Ribbit tried to groom him. If Jax talked to Kinger with the bucket on his head, he would have become the chad he was always meant to be.
>>153855319>was justHe’s not just. And Goose put himself in every character, including Gangle.
>>153855314>mfw the general has an even shittier end than the showI miss the blog posters, man.
>>153855295He is already "fixed" so nobody care to ship him. They would sooner go for evil Ragatha
>CHADgatha fans won the Pomni BowlHow are we feeling, bros?
>>153855312You’re right, Jax uniquely deserved to die for being the weakest
>>153855295Jax is going to watch Evil Jax get clussy from his cuck tent.
>>153855313>slaps your ass to 0 stri hated thrse motherfuckers so much
>>153855346Everyone deserved what they were willing to fight for. For Jax it was nothing.
>>153855314this stupid episode ruined my toxic comicthis sucks so much nowfunnybunny is forever tainted and there is no fun in iteven fish hat is soullesswe got robbed
RIBBIT IS SO FUCKING HOT I CAN'T TAKE IT
>>153855350fuck this shit, im chugging sujamma and killing it in one hit
>>153855344Blessed honestlyAfter all that shittalking on Ragatha, our girl won and won big
>>153855292are people still defending him after the ribbit stuff came out? KEK btw all he had to do was KNOCK on her door
>>153855353Just enjoy the non canon ship now you can get ridiculous with it. Write your Jax rescue fic, go nuts.
Jaxisters... I can't stop kneeling to Ragatha. She won...
>>153855328Except Pomni is straight so nobody gives a shit about your delusion. She never once blushed or was seen interested in women as much as she acted with Gummigoo or potentially with Jax. That was her actual interest shown. Everything with Kinger and Ragatha is Pomni being somber and serious like a daughter listening to her dad and mom. Being an awkward flirter only applied to Gummigoo and being a Goblin Mode and having fun only applied to Jax.
>>153855275yeah makes sense. "jax was getting better i swear! never mind his worsening and worsening freakouts! kinger killed jax with his unwarranted lore bomb! kinger killed kaufmo by not being sane or rational enough, despite not even having all of his memories even when in darkness! pomni also killed jax because she didn't reach out to him ONE time! jax should have lived because he cooperated once despite being fucked up enough to try to trap everyone because he was worried he killed his mom!"jaxfag is such a schizo lmao>>153855285you make up shit to be mad about and blame everyone but jax for jax's problems.you ignore the fact caine was willing to change and brought himself down to everyone's level by giving them equal power and making up for his first sin by letting go of the blue AI which he thought made himself "better".he worked to make it up to everyone with the internet stuff, exposed himself, actually apologized, and made himself an equal to the others instead of a superior.jax had ONE instance of being cooperative, only went to the cafe because it was one of the few places of rest and pleasure left yet was still confrontational, only left to distract caine because he didn't want to face reality, pushed his friends to suicide, and abused everyone else.jax could not and did not change, even in his SINGULAR "selfless" moment because that moment was about escaping the situation.he refused every prior chance he had to change, to fix things, and we even see how he refused to talk to anybody just like the numerous times he refused to talk to ribbit.jax doomed himself and deserved his fate. you're just a retard who can't see that.even post death, jax couldn't change.yeah, episode 9 rushed plot points. doesn't change the fact caine could change and jax couldn't.
>>153855361ok based, but even sujamma is temporary and you have to strip naked and visit a shrine to fix your cursed ass
>>153855344Another Pick me girl can't satisfy the other pick me girl. They will sooner end up dating NPC's or Kinger and Caine before they consider eachother.
>>153855398Keep barking.
>>153855382This isn't your average, everyday cope. This is advanced cope.
Speaking of Caine, couldn't he change Jax and Queenie back to their original avatars? Was it ever explained that he can or cannot do such a thing?
>>153855402They are right though. All they did was hug, which barely means anything when Pomni almost willingly got herself killed right after.
You guys are pathetic, you know that?
>>153855419Yes
>>153855402Ragathafags coping hard with the neutral ending. Nothing canon that Kingerfags or Showtime fags can't interpret as a win.
I need a design for JaxmomShe's the root of all evil and that's hot
>>153855351I see where you’re coming from, but I think you deserve better than this.
>>153855314>go back to a few weeks ago when we could just leave each other alone and ship Pomni with whoever we want and not get into pissbaby warsThat's not what the general was like lmao
>>153855382>Except Pomni is straightPomni certainly likes dick, but is she confirmed not to also like girls? No? Then it’s ambiguous.>your delusionNo need to be angry at what the show presented. See >>153855103>She never once blushed or was seen interested in womenAbsence of evidence is not evidence against.>she acted with Gummigoo or potentially with JaxOnly Gummigoo, before the rest of the episode played out>Everything with Kinger and Ragatha is Pomni being somber and serious like a daughterNot at all. She and Ragatha love each other, and we’re left to decide what kind of love that is. Friends, or more.>Being an awkward flirter only applied to GummigooTrue, and it’s definitely his biggest strength as an option. But her and Ragatha are already comfortable and have physical intimacy. There’s no need for awkwardness.
>>153855387What are you even babbling about? I was talking about Gangle and Zooble's missed opportunity.
>>153855428you know what'd be hilariously fucked up?ragatha's mom putting on the headset and treating "ragatha" better than she ever did in real life, having a super close and affectionate relationship, until they recognize who they are to each other and it all falls apart.
>>153855396I have plenty of it just for these occasionsalso I cant play morrowind without cheesing it some funny way, I think its ingrained in this games dnacarrying 100 axes because the thing breaks in one hit from having giga strkek
>>153855409I'd say he can't. Caine didn't want people abstract because it means he has less primely pigly pickles to put to adventures. If Caine could recover or at least make a copy of abstracted people then he would do that already.
>>153855450ISNT SHE LOVELY?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE56g61mW44
>>153855412>barely means anythingCome on now>>153855422>neutralNot conclusive, but definitely not neutral. Ragatha is canonically her closest relationship at the end of the series.
>>153855452>I wish my daughter had been more like you.
>>153855419People don't want to admit that our Gummigod won
>>153855450isn't she pomni...
>>153855452I'm talking about Jax's mom
>>153855453hey man, if the game lets you do it (without console commands) then do it, i mean why wouldnt i just make myself god potions from the start of the game? its funny
>>153855466>People don't want to feed into my retarded delusions
>>153855240I love how this was posted exactly once back when Goose tweeted it, but then when she deleted it and apologised for trauma dumping, it was never posted again out of respect. But then the finale was so terrible and trauma dumpy that people are just spamming it now lmao
>>153855466Because he didn’t, clearly.
>>153855428Since Jax is Hapa and its unlikely that an Asian father would be toxic, I assume his father is a White Chad and his mom a big titty asian anime girl!
>>153855465EXACTLY.>"She was always so ungrateful, so RUDE, spoiled rotten. I gave her everything, always tried to be there to guide her like I do with you, and she spat in my face every time.">"Wow, she sounds.... awful. I'm so sorry."
>>153855465>And I wish my mom… no, I can’t say it! That would be terrible! >Go on, Ragatha. Tell mommy dearest how you really feel.
>>153855468i just woke up bro sue me
>>153855433This isn't Coffin of Andy and Leyley. Pomni won't suddenly feel romantic excitement toward Ragatha.
>>153855292The last shot is beautiful tho.
>>153855382show me where gummigoo is in episode 9
>>153855486>ben "bishop"heh
>>153855419I’m not being mean or telling gummibros they can’t headcanon what they want. Just presenting the score as accurately and substantively as I can.
>>153855488>I gave her everything, always tried to be there to guide her like I do with you, and she spat in my face every time.That sounds like how Ragatha can ultimately become if she was surrounded by people who don't care her. Like Ribbit and Kaufmo who didn't invite Ragatha to their tea party. Or Gangle and Zooble who don't even talk to her. At least Pomni chose Ragatha to be ber emotional substitute after losing Jax.
>>153854906Imagine it's this theatre you go to for thathttps://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8psPusx/
Cut lines from Who's Running The Showhttps://x.com/Creativewafflee/status/2058038031026655654
>>153855464Yeah becuase of the process of elimination. Only after losing Gummigoo she started to interact with others and ONLY after losing Jax she started to talk with Ragatha. She's the last place loser's prize. A partipcipation award for Pomni. And that's if she doesn't get with Kinger or Caine first.
>>153855504>Pomni won'tProof?>>153855515>her emotional substituteTheir relationship is unrelated to Jax at that point.
>>153855522Your precious lives and all of your plansGuess you forgot that they're all in my handsRoll with the punches, deal with the kicksYou've barely reached into my bag of tricksDon't wanna play? Well that's alrightyHow dare you question the almighty(Instead of the 'Not enthused?' lines)
>>153855509
>>153855497>>153855488>Ragatha confides about her own mom>Ragamom fucking SEETHES about how someone could treat her new surrogate daughter like that. Totally agrees Ragatha's mom is a MASSIVE bitch.>They share a tender, tearful hug over their newfound family>And then flash forward to them realizing they actually were mother and daughter, the relationship IMMEDIATELY soured.>Ragatha trying to reflect and empathize with her newfound perspective of her mom's point of view until the mom screeches out "THAT'S how you talk about me to others?!", showing she is doing NO such reflection at all
>>153855465
>>153855525That’s the wildest cope I’ve ever heard. Ragatha and Pomni’s relationship was a slower burn for Ragatha’s arc, she is not portrayed as a last ditch option. As early as episode 3 they were getting closer. In fact Kinger helped the both of them inch toward each other.>Kinger/CaineCrackshippers can headcanon what they want, it’s possible, but Ragapom has the best positioning and focus for the end of the series. That really shouldn’t be a debate.
>>153855537Is he having fun watching Ragatha and Pomni play softball
>>153855540it'd be even better if ragamom had to have a heart to heart with kinger like pomni did with the "the worst thing you can do is make someone feel unloved or unwanted" and be forced with face the idea she might end up being the reason ragatha could abstract
>>153855540i can see that happening
Ragamom needs correction too (good fanfic idea guys)
>>153855537>It's all you're thirsting for>Gator GooLMAO
>>153855515>At least Pomni chose Ragatha to be ber emotional substitute after losing Jax.Insane cope.
>>153855570Reused asset from episode 5 but yeah it’s a funny gag
Ragamama x Kinger... the seed has been planted and needs to be sown
>>153855569I hope an Artist or fanfic writer picks it up. There's a LOT of potential for that.
>>153854895Im not gonna be on drugs if I have to drive my kids back home after the movie you irresponible fag
>>153855537Fuck. FunnyGummy wins.
>>153855576dude it really is. didn't even notice it because i was too busy looking for things like audience gags and stuff.
>>153855592Is deltarune worth playing even though it isn’t finished yet? I liked undertale (no interaction with the fandom whatsoever) but didn’t want to start an unfinished game.
>>153855603Wait why was it deleted?
>>153855582You’re a more responsible parent than 3/4 of my clients then, but most of them would just take the subway.
>>153855603janny removes twitter posts
>>153855540Poor Ragatha :( I love it
>>153855603I'd say so.
can someone explain why most branded fifteen year olds on xitter, bashing Goose this time? is it because movie spoilers or what. I hate that whole three years of abortion this show, one month before final episode releases people decides to shat their pants and turn on it
Its a fucking bummer I tell yaJax fate forever soured and stained my love for tadc, like yeah almost everyone in the cast got a happy ending but the contrast is too big, like on one side we have a happy group of people who play endless fun adventures and on the other a sad depressed bully rabbit killing himself and in the last lucid moments he cries and regrets it all.Its just fucked up, like I cant get over that fact, sure yeah who gives a fuck if he got what he deserved or not, its still leaves a full on bitter taste in my mouth and all previous episodes are unwatchable, esp from episode 5 and on
>>153855612I mean kinda based I didn’t think /co/s moderators would be so forceful, that’s more of an /a/ thing.
>>153855603Yeah i think it has more hopefull message overall than TADC and shipping potential is also great even if it looks like yuri shit has an advantage.
>>153855621buddy the whole movie leaked, it's ogre
>>153855621I'm so autistic dumbass made so much mistakes bruh. *brainded, *adoration
>>153855623It really is sad, but I don’t mind when a show makes me feel something difficult. Goose always said the show was sad, so they succeeded. Sorry it fucked it for ya.
>>153855621It’s because theres new Content of popular Thing, the specifics of Product are immaterial
https://youtu.be/4PArSxh4nwU
>>153855623The part that bothers me is that every other character arbitrarily took him off suicide watch for no reason.If it weren't for that I could pretty easily accept it. But they basically had to make Pomni act out of character just so the plot could happen.
>>153855610Christmas beeing canceled twice in my childhood because Dad totaled the car drunk on it after "just wishing his friends in the Cafe a merry christmas" made it so that Id rather shoot my own kneecap then drive under the influence, nevermind if Im to have passengers
>>153855623yepi'm not sure i'll ever fully watch the scenes after he abstracts, it feels so gross, and it's all so stupid and boringand idk how previous episodes are gonna hit now knowing it's just the "watch the bunny deteriorate and die for no reason" show, with no real payoff for all the interesting dynamics he had simmering with the rest of the cast, and no real payoff for any of the shit they had going on independently of him
>>153855632More hopeful than “participate in life it’s worth it”? Interesting. Maybe I will check it out so many people seem to love it. Still not to interested in a video game fandom like that tho so I’ll just enjoy the game.
>>153854546>Consider the following: talk about a different characterMan i wish Goose thought of that when writing this shitOh well, back to The Amazing Jax Show (feat. Jax)
>>153855623>its still leaves a full on bitter taste in my mouth and all previous episodes are unwatchable, esp from episode 5 and onSome people will tell you "Noooo you're supposed to like it writer intended audiences to like it" but fuck them. If audiences didn't like it, it is a failure. A critical failure happened at the conclusion of the series failed the series along with it.
>>153855635they didn't liked the ending? I somehow dodging all spoilers and avoiding leaks, but let me guess it's somehow involved with Jax?
>>153855654And it would have been so easy to just have him go full crashout and actively reject suicide watch in order to justify it
>>153855654For no reason? They were handling a crisis of their own.>>153855658>for no reasonThere’s a reason. It’s sad but he did it to himself, and it helps convey a powerful message.
Me defending Goose on twitter from her woke audience because i liked what she did with Jax.
>>153855671>I somehow dodging all spoilers and avoiding leaksget the fuck outta here then. as far as 4chan and twitter are concerned, the movie's out and open season to talk about
>>153855623Gangle schizo you should get a boyfriend and have kids
>>153855678kek
>>153855675Literally fuck off and let people talk
>>153855675>For no reason? They were handling a crisis of their own.Pomni was having the time of her life learning to conjure with Kinger. Then Jax goes up to her, clearly in distress, clearly needing help, and then she's just like "lol whatever"
>>153855667>If audiences didn't like itSome people not liking something sad doesn’t mean it’s a failure, especially when the intention is to portray something that is sad. Artistic success is not contingent on every individual person handling the material.
You guys take things way too seriously. You used to be more chill.
>>153855654>The part that bothers me is that every other character arbitrarily took him off suicide watch for no reason.He showed Ragatha, Zooble and Gangle that he hadn't really changed when he immediately attacked two of them after finding out about the brain scans. I get the impression that Zooble didn't really think he'd abstract either, because it's Jax.
>>153855672Exactly. If anything that would only strengthen the message that I think Goose was going for.
>>153855687Literally keep talking.>>153855690Pomni did not fail Jax by not forcing him to talk when he chose not to.
>>153855654Personally I actually loved as a concept that he got the bad end after all, but I also didn’t think the way it was actually written up to made that much sense by that point in the story
>>153855691>when the intention is to portray something that is sadI saw 'happy ending' right after 'sad ending' and felt it is gross. Was Goose's intention to make me vomit? Then it is surely a success.
>>153855675What crisis? You mean the lights going out that got turned back on shortly after, or the holes in the floor that Kinger fixed shortly after and weren't actually indicative of the circus falling apart after all, or did you mean the "revelation" of them all being digital copies that they all just kind of accepted after a few minutes with no real drama at all?
All im getting from the spoilertalk is that beeing trans and not coming out is worse then beeing a sadistic torturing clanker acording to goose and you deserve to be shot for it like a dog
>>153855693Angry Jax fans and relevancy tourists bring bad discussion.
>>153855698I get what the other anon means though. In the previous episode she firmly commands he come back later when he decides to distract Caine. Then the very next episode, she seems to forget.
>>153855707Don’t be ridiculous. They never shot the dog.
>>153855685Im straight, also dont be weird
Does anyone have any examples of tragedies in literature or film that are similar to Jax's that I can point to? Because I've seen a lot of Jaxfags' responses boil down to "there has never been a character who existed just to have a bad end, and Goose is a special sort of evil for inventing that". I'm not well read so all I can think of is Orpheus lol who arguably does everything right up until the end when he fails the big test of his character.
>>153855693Where's ragatha's turn???
>>153855703It’s a bittersweet finale that conveys the message of the series well through a tragic character who couldn’t make it, and the rest being able to.>>153855705First acknowledging that they aren’t who they thought and will never ever escape and then attempting to rebuild their crumbling home.
>>153855705You're right. The show didn't handle the crisis well, which is a very important point of every story. If something really dangerous or threatening happened it will be more immersive but instead we had an offscreened Jax abstraction and Pomni's aimless adventure in a rabbit hole.
Pomni felt pity toward Jax, it wasn't romantic love
>>153855711She just saw him have a crash out and insult two of her friends, sorry she's not feeling especially generous.
>>153855719>there has never been a character who existed just to have a bad endIf that's literally all it its, yeah, it's a stupid fucking story. Of course examples exist, and they're generally shit and not well liked.There's a difference between tragedy and misery porn.
>>153855703>"I saw 'happy ending' right after 'sad ending' and felt it is gross.">Everyone should be sad forever and the ending should show them being sad and never moving on because Jax was so greatlmao
>>153855726this is worse than the tranny cuckdog prison, being fucking friendzoned
Gangle and femJax would've made a great couple, in another timeline.
>>153855707See, thing is, Jax never comes out as trans. By the end, his real world self is still a male, yet is happy and got his life together.
>>153855711I get what he means, but Pomni is justified. You can’t force someone to be near you and open up, that was Ragatha’s flaw. Relationships are a two way street, she gave him space, always open, and he chose to go to a corner and die.
>>153855719Fullmetal Alchemist but its very clear about it beeing bad and terrible of the characters
>>153855724So things that were resolved in mere minutes
>>153855729>If that's literally all it its, yeah, it's a stupid fucking story.Well good thing it's not since there are several characters who learn and grow and are able to earn their happy endings.
>>153855733No goodbye kiss before death you get a platonic hug
>>153855719Hamlet and Macbeth.
>>153855735So the moral is if your trans, dont, and if you are also dont be a furry at the same time, thats going to make you kill yourself
>>153855719I'd say one that readily comes to mind is Josef K from The Trial.
>>153855724>bittersweetSurely Goose is not good at cooking. Putting solanine and aspartame together won't make it bittersweet, it will be emetic.
>>153855736Jax literally approached her and she just stood there looking at him like he was a stranger for no reason then says "i forgor about abstracting" in the voice over
>>153855719There's ted who dies to spare everyone living in under the machine in I have no mouth..but his character is like if ted turned into the blob fish and AM decided to play nice for no reason.
>>153855740The episode covered a lot of ground, but time passed.>>153855729That’s not all it is though. There was a point to Jax’s story beyond it’s sad.
>>153855726Anon, she loves everyone, you don't need to try to make it into a contest because you're scared of her loving him as a friend.
>>153855748honestly if that happened to me, im taking someone with me
Main story is Jax killing Ribbit and Kaufmo and then dying from his own sword.
>>153855711I would rather glaze the ending on its conceptual merits than go back and watch the show so any criticism you have of the writing probably just comes out of nowhere as a result of liking Jax and not wanting to be sad
>>153855734its real on my mind.
>>153855690So does everyone else and Pomni doesn't ask any of them to join, they just do.
>>153855759she friendzoned everyone in the circus beside Gummigoo. She's a loyal lover.
What I'm gathering is that Jaxfags would be happier if there was a scene with Pomni trying one last time to reach out to Jax and he told her to fuck off, or if she part of his little rant to begin with.
>>153855732That's the meaning of sad ending dude. Search few movies with sad endings and look how it ended.
>>153855752Sounds like a tongue problem to me.>>153855753He had tucked himself away for a while and he left without engaging and she didn’t force herself on him.
>>153855726Anon, she almost dies because she refused to let go of him.That's not pity. I'm not saying it was romantic, but it went way beyond pity.
>>153855772Yes
>>153854480what kind of person genuinely self-inserted as Jax while wanting to fuck tadc girls I just don’t get it
>>153855762Surely Ribbit and Kaufmo didn't think Ragatha nor Kinger loved them.
>>153855763That really is a funny man made of straw but the merits are conceptual and in execution and the complains that I’m seeing right now are “it makes me feel bad”.
>>153855772According to Jaxfags every character should've unironically been saying "where's Jax?" every time he's not around.
Interesting how Kinger essentially dropped two halves of the lesson regarding Caine and Jax at two different parts. If Ragatha and Pomni had gotten their on-screen talk, Pomni could've heard what Kinger said to her.
>>153855799You must be the other guy responding to plot details by telling anons how they feel instead, thank you my brother in arms
>>153855772They needed that again?
>>153855772Correct>>153855758>The episode covered a lot of groundI think the shit pacing and resultant tonal whiplash after Jax dies has exacerbated a lot of people's issues with the ending. Feels like the Jax stuff should have been its own dedicated penultimate episode with the series finale wrapping everything up on a more positive note in the aftermath.
>>153855667>Some people will tell you "Noooo you're supposed to like it writer intended audiences to like it"KEK NTA, but you were right.
>>153855772If anything this should be a Pomnifag take. I'm very bothered by Pomni suddenly not caring when her entire thing has been caring about others (sorry Ragathafags).
>>153855813I GUESS. Like him not insulting one of her friends and someone she considers her best friend wasn't enough for Pomni to go "alright I need a break from this guy".
>I would have totally done a 360 no scope and saved Jax, Pomni is a punk who didn’t try hard enough
He's my OC. He's an austrian painter born 1889 who somehow found himself in C&A's abandoned building where he put on the vr headset.
>>153855623You can *pretend* to believe pomni always keeps dogjax company (not that it would make a difference cuz I don't believe dogjax can comprehend shit)
>>153855833>Like him not insulting*Like him insulting. God I'm tired.
>>153855829It could have used more room to breathe, but the tone was handled really well. Clearly getting strong emotional reactions.
>>153855837I think everyone matters and tried their best, except for Bubble.
>>153855845Pomni dropped to my least favorite character after this episode.She's ten times the psycho that Jax was.
>saving jax is easy bro, just pick the exact right option every single time
>>153855693Perfect image, filename too.
I'm mostly bummed because abstraction being unfixable means all those guys died alone, scared and sad, and can never live in the new happy circus with a conscious mind again.Queenie should not be treated like a damn fish...
>>153855833I see it less I need a break and more he needs space. Again, part of the philosophy of the series is that relationships are two sided. Pomni can’t do all the work for Jax. He bitched out of saying something and she trusted him to be by himself and the trust was misplaced.
What is it with this recent theme of>Character get's depressed and commits totally-not-suicide while the rest of the cast immidiately moves on with their lives, hugs all aroundAre indie writers looking for sympathy by proxy or what
I wouldn't have added Pomni going "uwu Jax talk to me" I actually would've had her become visibly pissed off at him after he insulted Ragatha like that. Pomni still somehow scrounging up the grace to be like "ummm talk to me" after that would've cemented her as a pick-me.
Jax abstraction was so forced it felt like a last second decision made in a burst of fustration
>>153855865Queenie is a weird fish thing now. At least they’re in a pretty place and free and remembered.
>>153855722Sorry for the late reply, I was pooping.Maybe I'll do a sequel later when I'm in a better mood. All the shitstirrers are kind of putting me off at the moment.
>>153855880>Jax abstraction was so forced it felt like a last second decision made in a burst of fustrationThey've been foreshadowing it since ep 6 lol
>>153855779If this was Kinger abstracting she would actually wanted to stay and abstract with him. Jax wasn't that important.
>>153855880Definitely not. Very very telegraphed character trajectory watch the show again.
I think Goose overestimated how much the average viewer cares about the purple bitch
>>153855829Even for a sad ending it could have used one more episode to resolve the Caine storyline and then have Jax abstract anyway in the jax finale, it is an odd balance
>>153855874Thing is, they just found out they are scans. And yelling at him was only going to make things feel even shitter than they already did.
>>153855892I just did, and the ending was still shit, even if it was foreshadowed.
>>153855774endings can be sad even with characters moving on lmao
>>153855890Try episode 1. The nonchalant, too cool character is clearly not suffering like crazy on the inside.
>>153855900I don’t think so, the entire ending hinges on you caring about Jax. If you don’t care about Jax there’s no drama. But characters you like can die and that’s tough.
>>153855314I will never let Jaxcucks forget their place. They thought themselves so high and mighty and now look at them. Hubris comes before the fall and this was a mighty fall and oh so satisfying to watch.
>>153855873Creator trauma from firing difficult artists
And love dares you to change our way ofCaring about ourselvesThis is our last danceThis is our last danceThis is ourselvesUnder pressure(dundundun dunununu)
>>153855891She did almost abstract with Jax. She didn't know the others would pull her out. She didn't even bother to tell them she was doing it.
90% of the reason I dislike the Jaxstraction is because it feels like a Deviantart fetish scenario
Honestly, I don't even have any issues with Jax abstracting, but the way they handled it was so fucking dumb in almost every way. From it happening off-screen, to the fact that at that point in time there was no real reason for Jax to actually abstract, to trying to make us feel bad for him despite showing him as a complete fucking psychopath. These are all things that aren't that hard to fix. When Jax being transgender isn't the worst part of the whole thing, you know it's a fucking mess.
>>153855919SURELY you must have far better things to do in your "free" time.
>>15385593090% of the reason I like TADC is because it feels like a Deviantart fetish scenario tho
>>153855845Well, the fact she was with Jax while everyone else were together means something.
>>153855930It’s a good remix of IHNMAIMS it feels kafkaesque. Everything Goose does is a bit fetishistic but dog Jax is probably the most interesting emotional beat in the episode.
>>153855903By visibly pissed I mean have her glare at him when his back is turned or something, not yell at him or insult him.>Thing is, they just found out they are scans.Yeah and his response was to attack Ragatha and Zooble. Him being mad with Kinger is at least justified but the *second* he gets the opportunity, he stops yelling at the man and turns on the woman and the non-binary.
>>153855928She literally made a plan to wrangle Jax with Ragatha. She was aware she would help out or bring help. Were you guys half asleep while watching the leak?
>>153855934Would you have wanted yet another realistic panic attack and dmt trip only this time it’s for real?
>>153855953>good remix of IHNMAIMSJax didn't have a heroic moment before being turned into a dog
>>153855919It doesn't work when the only Jax that died was a pointless copy and the real guy he came from is living his best life.
>>153855859It is easy, they were doing it in episode 8:Don't let him go off alone.>Zooble: "We're not gonna let you wander of somewhere and abstract or something."Let him know that he's not alone.>Pomni: "And we'll always be in this together." *Smiles at Jax*Establish expectations that he will still be around. Make him promise to not fucking kill himself.>Pomni: "Be here later."From what we saw about why Ribbit abstracted, for all we know, feeling alone might LITERALLY be the thing that causes people to abstract.Bonus quotes from other episodes:>Pomni, ep 2: "I guess I just don't want you to feel like you're nothing. I don't want anybody to feel like that.">Kinger, ep 3: "In this world the worst thing you can do is make someone think they're not wanted or loved."
>>153855965No he didn’t, but he got to say goodbye, and everyone else gets to be happy in the world they fought for. Is that more tragic or less? You decide.
Get your jax toy have a little laugh boy
>>153855934Yeah lot of contradictions that could be rewritten smoothly in a simple way but that’s not always easy to see in advance with a series developed in script form
Gonna take my dogs for a walk, try not to burn the ashes of this place while I'm gone.
>>153855961I hope the official release in english helps clear up some of this speedwatching
I heard that Jax was trans but after watching it there was no trans stuff. Did I miss something?
>>153855913I imagine a Titanic ending with Kate 'moving on'(I mean a scene where she happily dance and sing while laughing maniacally) after Jack died.
>>153855693I needed this laugh.Thank you Anon.
>>153855934This, it's the execution that's so frustrating, especially when some aspects of it are so fucking simple
>>153855176Like a bad parent, however, he wanted to control their lives in an overprotective way, even taking responsibility for their happiness. A combination of not knowing better, but also staking his own sense of self-worth on the humans. He was too oblivious to understand he was worsening problems instead of fixing them, and he doubled down to the point of growing resentful. He should have just stopped, but he was obsessive-compulsive. Don't be like God Caine. He himself is a hurt child who doesn't know better. Other characters hurt Jax without knowing, because they didn't know any better. When Jax is a child who failed to stand equal to his parents, Caine is a parent who failed to realize that his fledglings desperately want to leave the nest. Except, there was a point at which Leeroy pushed the old hag and moved on, and Caine experienced genuine pushback for the first time when he was confronted and deleted. Jax no longer being vanilla Leeroy experienced a cyclic reenactment of "may or may not have killed the parents who ran my life" and felt doubly unequipped to deal with the consequences/Life™. Caine almost died for the second time in his AMAZING DIGITAL life, and whereas the first time (C&A replacing him with the blue AI) was random, this time was directly traceable to his own actions, and he got the hint. Yeah, dropping his narcissism on a whim won't happen much in IRL, though if it happens, it tends to be when someone had an NDE and came back grateful for a second chance at their shitty life.Jax was presented as a cautionary tale to what happens when you run away from your problems and burn bridges, when you identify as your traumas. His "Jax" persona had to die for the bnuuy to live. Saying he deserved death says more about the viewer than Jax. Jax' demise provides a tragic reality check.Normies will clock Jax as an asshole, see him die miserably and conclude "Don't be like Jax". Very troubled individuals will be shook and hopefully seek help.
>All Jax did was use Ragatha's trauma to degrade her, why wasn't Pomni forcing everyone to take turns checking up on him every 30 minutes?
>>153856002The bow thing with ribbit made the trans theorists go rabid but the truth is we dunno exactly what’s up with that and it doesn’t particularly matter, the point is Jax had a vulnerable side he was scared of showing anyone.
>>153856002People are reading way too much into things like Ribbit putting the bow on him and his maid self in his brain prison.
>>153855953>It’s a good remix of IHNMAIMSIt's not, it's barely a superficial nod to it>dog Jax is probably the most interesting emotional beat in the episode.Nevermind, you're just a crazy person lmao
>>153855934>to the fact that at that point in time there was no real reason for Jax to actually abstractHe lost Caine who was arguably his biggest coping mechanism for his whole "we're just le cartoons" thing. Like the original plan in 8 *wasn't* to delete Caine, it was to roll him back to a more manageable state and to give them a break from him.
I know it's supposed to be tragic, but I can't feel any empathy for Jax. People cared about him, they never stopped reaching out to him, he deliberately hurt them and pushed them away over and over and they STILL kept trying to care for him anyway, and he's too much of an insecure bitch to accept it. Fuck him.
>>153856021>seek helpThat would be practicing what they preach and not being like Jax
>>153856026Why didn't Pomni just do something herself when prompted? She had a vulnerable bunny bf offer himself on a platter but she thought it was more fun playing Minecraft.
>>153856002>Jax talking to Pomni about his tail being the pinnacle of masculinity>Pomni points out he doesn’t have a tail>his tail comes backHe’s not necessarily trans but his issues clearly stem from not being as masculine as he wants to be, which is also why he bullies Gangle
>>153855981none of these actions tackles Jax's inherent distrust of people based on his fears
>>153856052>person reaches out to you>tell them to fuck off>they fuck off>OH WOE IS ME WHY DOESN'T ANYONE REACH OUT TO ME
>>153855981Jax KNEW he could count on the others. He chose not to. Expecting everyone to take turns watching Jax 24/7 is unrealistic.
>>153856002The bottom line is that there IS some kind of side of Jax that he doesn't want people to see that likely relates to his gender identity. There's too much evidence for it. But it doesn't necessarily mean he's trans. He could just be a naturally soft man, or he like occasional drag, maybe he's bi, maybe he is actually trans. Leeroy by 2017 hasn't seemingly transitioned but the guy we saw isn't exactly peak cis guy either. I think that Goose wants it to be up to interpretation.
>>153856021Jax deserved what he fought for, everyone did, but for him that was nothing. That’s the moral tale of the show, it’s not too late until you give up and refuse to change or grow, that’s the unforgivable sin. Don’t be Jax, not because he’s an asshole, but because he couldn’t muster the will to be anything else, when he had that in him.
>>153856074Killing Jax when he hugged Pomni back and cried he doesn't want to leave was the worst choice of this film. The show would be 100 times more satisfying if Jax managed to return from Abstraction.
>>153856026That's my point though, he should have done worse and made Pomni explicitly less cool with him. Not in a "you deserve to die" way, just in an "I'm a human, not an unconditional cheerleader, I feel kinda fucked up about you right now and need some space," which would be plenty for her to miss the pivotal "noo don't abstract ur so sexy aha" moment, while also triggering Jax's final "That's it then, I finally pushed her away like everyone else, I'm a horrible person and don't deserve to live" crisis
TADC is the ultimate empathy litmus test. I think even Goose xerself failed it.
>>153856052>She had a vulnerable bunny bf offer himself on a platter but she thought it was more fun playing Minecraft.Yeah sometimes it is more fun playing Minecraft than crying outside your bunny bf's door to talk to you lol
>>153856101truke, jax should have abstracted episode 1 and we could have gotten based kaufmo kino
>>153856099Hard disagree. Jax needed to face consequences.
>>153856099>you can shoot yourself in the head but if you’re really really sorry and if your friend is really really sad it’s okay you can get betterThe lesson is harsh but it’s real.
>>153856002It's open for interpretation, but it leans heavily into Jax having some gender identity stuff going on
>>153856100>That's my point though, he should have done worseI guess but if I had been in Pomni's shoes and saw how he handled the brain scans things I wouldn't really be up to talking to him either. Especially if his idea of reaching out to me was him standing there, staring for a few seconds and then walking away.
>>153856110What consequence? None of his deed required to be punished by death.
>>153856101Goose has a lot of empathy for Jax, it’s clearly conveyed in his fixation over him and how he is portrayed. Calling the ending shit because he dies is not being more empathetic, it’s running away from consequences and ultimately, reality.
>>153856047Jax is awful, but I can't help but feel bad for him still. At least he's at peace now.
>>153856116That's the lesson we learn from the fiction, isn't it?
>>153854539Caine came back because he was remorseful and wanted to make amends.If there's one consistent through line with Jax is that he felt bad about things but never addressed it or apologised for it.
>>153856145All too often unfortunately, and that’s likely why Goose considers this ending bold. The conventional hollywood ending would be a big escape adventure, or if they wanted to get spicy, they’re stuck but save Jax through the power of friendship. Goose took a less generic path.
Pomni was bordering on codependency with Jax and for her sake it's a good thing he's gone
>>153856118Completely irrelevant but I find it interesting that Ribbit was able to remove her bow here.
>>153856110But not Caine
>>153856110Dying is a stupid consequence, being forced to live and actually mend fences is the consequence he needs. His whole problem was catastrophising stupid bullshit and building persona upon persona to get out of feeling or facing anythingBy dying, the finale is all about him and his retarded delusions while he runs away into oblivion, instead of him actually facing the reality of his behaviour, understanding his impacts on others, and finding a way forward
>>153856141No he isn’t, abstractions will never find peace.
>>153856164>Caine came back because he was remorseful and wanted to make amends.No, Caine came back because he can fly. Do you think Caine would be stopped by some kind of wall if he didn't want to make amend?
>>153856067Jax deserved what he fought for, everyone did, but for him that was nothing. That’s the moral tale of the show, it’s not too late until you give up and refuse to change or grow, that’s the unforgivable sin. Don’t be Jax, not because he’s an asshole, but because he couldn’t muster the will to be anything else, when he had that in him.
>>153856120That's you. Pomni's been consistently on his side this entire series and nothing suggested his reaction to the brain scan thing really bothered her, so for her to suddenly blank on him and VO "I forgor" feels cheap and out of character
>>153856167>Goose took a less generic pathAnd she will soon meet the consequence of her choice.
>>153855994evil ragatha my beloved...
>>153856190>Don't be mentally illThanks Goose. Good message. Maybe take your own advice.
>>153855963No, I think he should've abstracted during his hug with Pomni while already being on his way there (maybe like in those fanarts where he's already half-abstracted). The issue is that by having it happen off-screen, you rob something the show was building up to. Either it happens off-screen and he's saved later, or we get a climactic abstraction.>>153856043But they were literally rebuilding the whole place, and the brain scan thing means he can never leave anyway. Literally if he waited like a day, everything would've been back to normal and was already on its way there,>>153855993>>153856020Here's how I would've done it.>Brain scan reveal mentally fucks everyone for way longer than two minutes and the Circus isn't immediately rebuilt >This is our foundation for the situation, because everyone is such in a shit mental state, there's not enough mental capacity to watch Jax as he fucks off and he gets (reasonably) depressed that everything is crumbling and they'll be living a meaningless existence with nothing to do>As we get to explore each character mentally break down, but build themselves back up, especially when learning they can conjure, Pomni runs to find Jax to tell him>Because Jax has been wallowing in his own misery, dwelling on his past mistakes, thinking there's no reason to continue living, he's almost about to abstract >Though Pomni tries to tell him that they've found a way to fix things, he's in a completely unresponsive state >Here we can have the mind exploration stuff she does in the actual episode, maybe earlier in the episode it's foreshadowed that you can do this when everyone learns how to fix the Circus >Biggest changes to Jax's personalities, would be that he's not transgender, but part of his cruelness to Ribbit should be retained>However in this version, Caine does find out about Jax's secret, which he blames on Ribbit, causing him to spiral(Cont.)
>>153856190>it’s not too late until you give up and refuse to change or grow, that’s the unforgivable sinAnd it's too late when Jax hugged back Pomni and cried he doesn't want to go?
The story was about a guy who refuses to change vs a girl who refuses to give up on him. Is it really that challenging to accept that the guy who refuses to change didn’t get an ending where he changes? Are you so closed off to the idea of exploring what happens to someone who doesn’t? How is the show better if Jax’s side of the equation crumbles and he gets the same resolution as everyone else? It’s just a bigger and better version of everyone else’s arc?
>>153856222>>153856222>>153856222
>>153856180Jax seemed at peace when he was abstracting the first time. It seems kinda like ego death. His mind has been liberated from the sufferings of the self.
>>153856220Yes. By that point he was just an interactive suicide note. No take backs, no easy outs. Hard consequences.
>>153856206 Is it really that challenging to accept that the guy who refuses to change didn’t get an ending where he changes? Are you so closed off to the idea of exploring what happens to someone who doesn’t?
>>153856177>>153856178these two posts go together beautifully because caine does try to understand the impact he has on others so he can change while jax is too selfish and narcissistic and would rather fucking die than work on himself
>>153856239A suicide note does not interact. It was Jax interacting Pomni. You're calling it suicide note because the plot doesn't allow him magically return as Caine did.
>>153856244I'm closed off to the idea of exploring shit writing.
>>153856212I wonder if they wanted to show one of the abstraction transformations if not only Jax’s but it simply wasn’t in the budget in the end. It is an odd major point to build up so much and then do offscreen.
>>153856258>caine does try to understand the impact he has on others so he can change while jax is too selfish and narcissisticCaine literally forced everyone to make them participate his adventures, not changing himself.
>>153856286>ignores the endingokay lol
>>153856259A computer program does not think. We are watching a science fiction show. Jax is dead and can’t come back, but he can have some final words in. His final words show that Jax is not someone leaving because he’s happier dead. You do not want to be him.>magically returnAbstraction was set up as irreversible in episode 1, returning from the void was shown to be possible in episode 1.
>>153856286we're talking about the finale
>>153856185So you agree it wasn't about whether Jax or Caine felt remorse?
>>153856090I can't argue with that, he just rolled with the adventures without finding something worth living for. He felt more comfortable acting fake than respecting his or anyone else's needs. He was a real piece of work who did harmful things, but it's wrong to say he deserved death. Had he held on just long enough for Caine to return, he probably would have felt even worse by comparison, like "less capable of change than an autistic AI". Giving up was his choice. He chose to die on the hill called "I believe I'm irredeemable".
>>153856258>Guy who has always been able to change anything around him easily integrates change after experiencing ego death>Guy who can’t influence the world around him even by flattening people with hammers but watches every friend permadie of feelings fails to achieve ego death through vulnerability and changethat tracks with their experiences even if they weren’t assholes actually
so from what i can gather the main bitching from jax fans is the other characters are heartless for not endlessly bending backwards to accommodate him first before dealing with their own shit, they're shitty friends for not reading his mind to know how he truly feels about them at all times despite him actively concealing it from them, and how dare they not keep reaching out to someone who keeps biting them for doing it?
>>153856465Did something strike a nerve or is everyone you disagree with on the internet a fictionkin?
>>153856465yes
>>153856049>>153856090I just wanted to say thank you for reading my text walls. I wasn't able to condense it better, but I wanted to post a heartfelt assessment amidst the tone-deaf "Jax deserved it" posts. Insisting on rightfulness is something I don't endorse. Life is morally gray, and choices are up to each person to make for themselves.
>>153856752new toss?
