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real human bean edition

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what's something positive (You) have to say about the ending, anon?
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is everyone gone?
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>>153859547
It made me draw Ribbit tits. I like her canon personality.
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>>153859547
Why Ep 9 was bad.
One, more than half of episode was spent for Jax without achieving something. Pomni risked herself, embraced Jax, entered the mind file, and then, nothing changed?
Two, all other members were neglected in this episode. In episode 6 all members had their moments and everything was balanced compared to this.
Three, there was no consequence of deleting Caine. Lights out, and that was all. And Caine just flied back from the trash bin.
Four, offscreen abstracting Jax at the start of ep 9 is the most unsatisfying way to conclude his story they spent so much time in half of previous episodes.
Five, most stuffs related to Caine was neglected or discarded, like why Bubble became hostile, why he made Scratch abstract, and what was that strange log when Kinger deleted Caine.
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So we all agree that shit was so ass right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvYd13rdrE
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>>153859547
Pros
>Jax finally abstracts

Cons
>Many things but mainly Jax didn't abstract for the reason I wanted him to
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>>>/trash/83002051
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>>153859567
Nope no matter how many times you try to manufacture a consensus the ending was good.
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If any time passes between episodes then none of this makes and they are not rational actors. If they perceive time the same way an AI does, however, it's fine but that likely means that they only exist for the moment that they are prompted and we are being fed video translations of their output.
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>>153859602
Meds
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>>153859567
can you stop posting this under every thread
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>>153859602
there was a "sense" that belongs in there that got omitted somehow but it makes sense otherwise.
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OCs?
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>>153859547
It perfectly sold the themes of the story and wrapped everyone up to a conclusive and internally consistent end. Everyone got the ending they fought for. All is right with the world.
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>>153859577
Why did you want him to?
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Ragatha is such a cutie
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How is everyone else's day going? Mine is super boring!
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>>153859192 #
>With Jax, they had a whole-ass chapter and the Daisy Bell duet.
Which Jax refused to take seriously and then proceeded to push Pomni away. It's like you missed that whole lesson.

And Ragatha and Pomni has been much more of a slow burn. Their development might not always have been in the foreground, but it's literally the ONLY character dynamic that's been developed since the very first episode. There was an initial awkwardness in 1 and 2, a platonic show of appreciation in 3, seeds of doubt sewn in both Ragatha and Pomni's minds in 4, the blow up in 5, Ragatha's lowest point in 6 and the reconciliation at the end (I'll concede that the talk between them should have been on screen), the beginning of hanging out more together in 7, which continued to the beginning of 8, all culminating in the ultimate show of Pomni's appreciation for her in 9.

Could we have gotten a little more? Sure, but there's a complete story here, and in a moment as unsure as the one they were in, a hug was more than appropriate and was just the kind of catharsis Ragatha needed to not completely fall apart again after Jax's abstraction.

It's honestly really well done, even if most of the finale falls flat.
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>>153859567
I used to think Hazbin S2 was bad but TADC ep 9 was worse. I don't think this record can be break in a decade.
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The problems with the ending
-while jax arc makes sense narratively, it still completely unnecessary and boring, it wasn't worth spending so much time on jax for this
-caine return not only it doesn't make sense how he survived, we are supposed to believe the blue dot ai was making him evil when it was him that eat the blue dot in the first place and that they forgive him almost instantly
-it makes no sense that pomni can mindscape jax
-despite jax being a retard that refuses to get help they did left him to his luck and didn't check on him even though they said they would
-abstragedy lesbian sex at the end but no ragapom lesbian sex
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>"Themes and such," Goose said, one hand down >her pants
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>>153859630
she's precious and perfect and I love her
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>>153859504
In the next ten years from now how will tadc be remembered?
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>>153859657
how much panicked gooning do you think he's gotten up to since the leak?
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>>153859638
So from ep 1 to 8 there was no deep talk between two, just Ragatha orbiting Pomni waiting her asking for help, which never happened.
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>>153859635
Im grinding a skill in game and sitting in this thread
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>>153859666
It wont be, Satan.
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>>153859587
No, it wasn't. Nice try. You can call me a jaxfag too sorry for spoiling the next step of the Hackworx defense force tactics to invalidate criticism.
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/co/ not understanding the show is expected. But still quite sad.
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>>153859666
>Hey remember than one show where the tranny dies and becomes a dog
Grim.
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I like Ragatha.
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>>153859635
Same but also veryyy slow at the same time
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>>153859683
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>>153859557
agree, mormon ribbit is 100x better than the manic ribbit people were trying to paint her as
manic ribbit is still hot though
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>>153859666
>In the next ten years from now how will FOTY be remembered?
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>>153859666
As a meme.
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>>153859697
based
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>>153859564
1. We achieved closure with Jax, learned more about him and said goodbye without asspulling out of his consequences.
2. Fair, lack of screentime and focus. But everyone got a little something and they were all wrapped up.
3. Isolation and an uncertain future, an emotional trial for our heroes that all but one failed.
4. His offscreen abstraction was a gut punch reveal, and paired well with his almost abstraction scenes earlier in the show that didn’t need a retread. That’s also how you tend to find a suicide victim in real life, and his abstraction wasn’t the climax of his story, that was saved until the goodbye. Avoided the double beats, the correct choice.
5. Valid, Caine was rushed unfortunately. What’s there works but he got a truncated version of his resolution when he deserved more time. 7 shouldn’t have existed and this ending should have been a three parter for this alone.
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>>153859666
Potential Show
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>Doesn't burn any bridges
>Wins
Its that simple
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>>153859651
>-caine return not only it doesn't make sense how he survived, we are supposed to believe the blue dot ai was making him evil when it was him that eat the blue dot in the first place and that they forgive him almost instantly
I didn't interpret him getting rid of the blue AI as just plucking the evil part of himself away, it felt more like he was getting rid of some of his god-like power because he wanted the brainscans and himself to be on the same level
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>>153859666
Being the epitome of the 2020s indie animation fad.
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>>153859726
In what way?
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>>153859547
Jax died.
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>>153859683
yeah, jax didn't find the courage to reach out to others. the rabbit fuck did it to himself, he says as much in the screengrab.
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>>153859721
Proves >>153859697 correct and is based as fuck
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>>153859547
I liked that Caine came back because I liked him more than most of the other characters
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>>153859547
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
During the Ribbit VRchat sequence, the camera transitioning (lol) from Jax POV to 3rd person as he opened up then snapping back to Jax POV when he closes off was good cinematography.
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>>153859725
That makes sense but the scene its too ambiguous imo.
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>>153859683
For every poster like this there are just as many posters that go NOOOO NOT MY RABBIT BOY YOU CAN’T KILL HIM GOOSE YOU OWE HIM A HAPPY ENDING HE DIDN’T EARN NOOOOOO
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>>153859683
>nooseworx created a show as a vehicle for a single character that he wants to see crashout throughout and die in the end
wow so hard to understand
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>>153859628
Whaddaya mean? He deserved it

But like I said not for the reason I wished
Now this might sound ridiculous but bear with me

>Jax is insecure about his masculinity right
>He thinks he's this lonewolf sigma giga chad who doesn't need anyone
>So basically he abstracts on purpose to see if he can fight it, to see if he can win
>What follows is Jax going to the room of Kaufmo and Ribbit to find things that trigger him enough for abstraction
>He eventually finds one of these and the process starts
>At first he thought he had a fighting chance
>Being able to halt its progression
>But sooner than later the abstraction wins and Jax is swallowed whole by it
>In the last scene we see Jax regretting this stupid decision
>Admitting to himself that he's a FAGGOT.

That is all, I dunno thought it was funny
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>>153859556
OUR POSTERS are ALL here, not a single one missing!
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>>153859564
>no consequence for killing Caine
>lights out
>No consequence
>lights out

Is there a dent in your brain?
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>>153859697
kek
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>>153859666
I don’t think it’ll be in the same league as AT GF or SU any of the major 10s shows but as that one phenomenon indie show from the early 20s
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>>153859776
That sounds hilarious and if Goose had been a little more honest with
>her
self it could have been what happened.
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>>153859791
evangelion and it's consequences have been a disaster for indie animation.
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>>153859638
Based Ragapom scholar
Their thread was consistently interesting and the only stumble was offscreening that talk.
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>>153859547
Ragatha winning.
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She was right
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>>153859800
That's not a meaningful consequence and you know it.
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>>153859622
i tried drawing another oc after making the dice one last night
this one is a mime girl with stretchy limbs
i didn't know what to draw for her shoes
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>>153859714
>We achieved closure with Jax, learned more about him
With no avail.
>an emotional trial for our heroes that all but one failed.
The one that shocked them most wasn't Caine's death, it was Kinger's unwanted lore dump, although sitting for 15 seconds don't feel like an emotional trial, but I do agree that Kinger's unwanted lore dump was specifically designed for Jax's sudden demise.
>and paired well with his almost abstraction scenes earlier in the show that didn’t need a retread
If the show was about 'a guy who never change vs a girl who never give up' then Pomni should be present when Jax started transforming, offering help like she did inside Jax's mind later. Instead it was poorly ended.
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>>153859823
About everything
Ragathugs have immaculate judges of character
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>>153859768
yeah, and they didn't really make it clear what powers he lost, but I'm choosing to still the scene as just that and not magically deleting his flaws
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this but with Caine
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>>153859725
No, Blue AI was literally depicted as an evil twin, and he is still a lot stronger than humans.
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>>153859828
holy sex
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>>153859776
shakespearean levels of writing right here anons truly one of a kind
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>>153859831
>With no avail.
Learning about him is the point, so that was a narrative success.
>Kinger’s lore dump was specifically designed
To test the characters and Jax can’t hack it because he never ever made the right choice.
>then Pomni should be present
Not a necessity at all, she never gave up, he gave up on himself.
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>>153859827
He doesn't know.
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>>153859857
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>>153859622
Sitting down at the cafe
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>You liked this character in particular? well, fuck you! buy our merch!
i think i should stay away from anything that glitch mades then.
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>>153859880
Jax would say this before firing the shotgun in his mouth btw
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The Jaxfag bargaining stage is annoying can we skip to acceptance
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>>153859504
Would jax use a shotgun to kill himself or hes too poor to afford one and uses a noose or cut his wrists
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>>153859828
c-cute
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>>153859903
we skip to cooper detransitioning or committing sudoku
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>>153859823
she even figured out they were brainscans and just didn't say anything to not be a downer
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Big wife little wife
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>>153859828
D-Dice?... may I see?
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>>153859865
>Learning about him is the point, so that was a narrative success.
Pomni just 'learning' about him wasn't the point. Ever since episode 5 she got close to Jax, saw Jax's weakness, and took Jax with their adventure, not out of curiosity, but to save him. But at the last moment Jax offscreened, Pomni jumped into Jax's mind and successfully made Jax accept her, but with zero consequence about that.
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As someone who's glad that Jax is a mindbroken cuckdog, could we stop mounting "themes and such" defenses of what happened and just be honest with ourselves again, like we were after the initial leaks dropped?
>>153859919
He'd find a nice bridge. Maybe share the view at night on his social media before he jumps.
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He tried to warn you.
You don't hate brazilians enough.
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>>153859927
i posted it in a thread yesterday & people seemed to like it. it's not another cute girl if that's what you were hoping for
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>>153859725
The evil inside him came from his first "Sin" by not just acting out due to his fears but inflicting the same torment, trapping an AI, he went through by consuming blue.
By freeing the blue AI, he lost some of the more updated capabilities and sought to make things right.
Remember, he too is a program. Blue's code and features likely weren't entirely compatible to begin with.
The main theming of him release blue is him trying to make up for his past by visiting the very first thing he ever did "wrong".
It's also paralleled by how his flashback is framed alongside his more selfish act of taking what wasn't his and creating the program that makes circus members with his more selfless act of retrieving mind file names to do research for the sake of the current circus members.
It would have been a great arc for him to go on.... if it wasn't like five fucking minutes lmao
I can see what Goose was trying to do with Caine but she sprinted through it with no regard for pacing because Jax dying was supposed to be part of the climax of the story. Take too long afterwards and you lose the "edge" but she forgot she could have put off that storyline's conclusion with a much longer time with Caine working on his redemption.
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>>153859828
Made for ryona
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>>153858183
Well, that's life. He didn't -need- to end like that, but you can't really help someone if they refuse to get help and decide to keep sabotaging themselves until the end. He had all the chances, and instead of going back and work on himself and his relations, he doubled down every single time and led at least two people into abstraction, and kept fucking up everything around himself until the very end.
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>>153859938
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>>153859903
Acceptance stage comes when they make sure everyone think that Goose and TADC are the worst writer and writing of this century. Then they will accept it and move on.
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>>153859949
That's a very dice OC
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>>153859949
Looks awesome anon
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>>153859828
She pretty, kinda looks like an ENA character.
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>>153859929
The audience learning about him was the point. Pomni couldn’t save an already dead man, but they reached closure in the end. She will carry his memory and he didn’t have to pass on alone. But the consequences of his behavior will not be undone, he killed himself, and people die that way every day. Don’t be Jax. And for the Pomnis of the world, you can’t save someone who refuses to change.
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>>153859949
snake eyes is so cool
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>>153859547
- The beginning of episode 9, when they're finding out the truth about the Circus, was good
- The scene of Jax in the mirror with the bowling ball was a great recontextualization
- Everyone accepting their place in the Circus and having more control over their adventures was exactly how I was ultimately hoping it would end
- The credits sequences were very cute and supported the vibe
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>>153859771

The “did character DESERVE a sad/happy ending” endless conversations piss me the fuck off because that’s never been how life works, horrible shit happens to awesome people and awesome shit happens to horrible people CONSTANTLY. It’s not like elderly leaders of the Taliban sending terrorists (but not themselves) are powerful because they’re wonderful people, if anything, being horrible can give you and end to be successful.

If it’s “art” it SHOULDN’T only give people strictly what they deserve, did Ribbit also “deserve her ending”? Queenie?

Unless you think that Ribbit, Queenie, Kaufmo etc. all clearly deserved horrible deaths, why the fuck is 100% of the conversation here about whether or not Jax “deserved” it or Caine also “deserved” to die horribly for whether this was a good ending or not? We know people who don’t deserve to die have been killing themselves constantly.
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>>153859985
i was actually inspired by ena when drawing her along with esme from disillusion st
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>>153859880
Faggotry aside seriously watch GD it's got huge promise and potential (best part it doesn't seem to have angsty teen drama bullshit and definitely no shipping wars)
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>>153859651
>abstragedy lesbian sex at the end but no ragapom lesbian sex
They only did this because Abstragedy has no challengers. If they did Ragapom sex on screen they'd have to deal with a ton of angry Funnybunny shippers. So they just left that as implied instead (even though there was a loooooot of pandering).
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>>153859938
We are being honest? It happened for a reason and that was to convey a point about his character in contrast with the others.
>>153859968
So they’ve become Jax, stuck in a trauma spiral and refusing to grow up?
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>>153859696
Give me some examples of this character talking so I can feed her to AI and make a chatbot out of her
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>>153860007
also stocking from panty & stocking but this was more subconsciously than consciously
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>>153859986
Killing a guy offscreen at the last episode, who felt huge trauma and guilt after his friends' death in digital prison, after the protagonist spent most time with him to form bond and save him, doesn't sound like a good writing decision, nor educational.
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>>153859950
WAIT those flashbangs are from ep6?????

Goddamn what a setup, and they said goose sucked
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>>153859943
Toby Fox would have made sure everybody gets to experience it at the same time instead of region-locking the whole thing and subjecting fans to a movie-going humiliation ritual. Oh and he also knows how to write a ending to a fucking story. They should have just asked him to write the last 2 episodes.
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>Killing Jax means Jax and Pomni won't have any children
>Goose killed any chance of Monkey Wrench having an audience
This is the real tragedy
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>>153860040
Characters die offscreen all the time.
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Any emotional impact was deeply undercut by the toy commercial for the cute frog girl who died because Jax was a huge pussy about being some kind of fem gayboy.
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Hey random question but is anyone else here a fan of black ops zombies?
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>>153860040
Agreed. She probably thought "Well, we already saw the process and attempt once already. No need to rehash it.
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>>153859706
Funny how Gooseworx fans used to mock Vivziepop with this whole "TADC if it was written by Vivziepop" meme when, if anything, Vivziepop mogs as a writer. When Vivziepop writes, we know we won't get plot points like "Adam's death was fake".
5 seasons ordered and paid for by Amazon, by the way. I hope the cinema pesos were worth it.
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>>153860006
>that’s not how life works
That’s often how fiction works, especially a story that is making a point about how to find meaning in a stagnant life, through communication and self growth. The series has a very easy to understand thesis and Jax acts as the negative example. It not working out for him is the point.
And that’s a valid artful story.
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>>153860006
Because it is a fiction where protagonist should be able to save their friend is the most satisfying and fulfilling story. But then it failed, likely because of writer's fetish, people are trying to make an excuse like 'he deserves to die because he is depressed' and so on.
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>>153860006
>that’s never been how life works
But we're not talking about life, we're talking about a story, one that's so fantastical that technology is indistinguishable from magic, because Goose is a brainlet hack. "erm life doesn't work that way" is a bullshit excuse in that context.
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>>153860060
>She
wanted to skip to the part that made
>her
gock feel good: the complete obliteration of the twink
>she
self-inserted as for the purpose of his obliteration.
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>>153859952

Jax dying DEFINITELY should have happened several episodes ago, allowing the end to focus instead on Caine, Pomni, perhaps Kinger, especially since unlike Jax they are characters that people care about and that relate to the main plot.
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I have a huge meltdown whenever a series I like ends in yuri. Thankfully I did not have enough time to get invested in this series.
But I dread what will happen in Deltarune. Snowgraving is my only option and even that might turn into some yurifaggotry.
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>>153860054
Monkey Wrench had a chance to get an audience?
You really believe that? It was never going to work out.
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there should be more fat characters in hazbin because I'm into that sexually and all the skinny fucks dont turn me on
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>>153860065
>Vivziepop mogs as a writer
No, not really. All of Hazbin and Helluva Boss is bad. Goose only fucked the ending.
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>>153860087
Goose fucked the entire second half.
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Notice how no one prays to God in the circus
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>>153860087
>Goose only fucked the ending
But that's the most important part.
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Pomni is canonically a Ragathug...
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>>153860082
Yeah. I know she viewed it as a character focus show but Jax really didn't deserve all that screen time. Hell, his trauma flashbacks only revealed WHY he was the way he was. We already figured Ribbit abstracted because of a fight they had. We didn't need that much context.
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>>153860100
Errrrm, it's about le journey, not le destination.
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>>153860087
Goose fucked the last three episodes.
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>>153860040
See point 4:
>>153859714
And it is a good decision because that’s literally his point in the story, the philosophical antagonist who doesn’t budge and it’s sad that he doesn’t on purpose and you can feel that and think about what the show means by showing that to you. The message is conveyed through everyone.
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>>153859666
Yeah
It's the quintessential Alpha Gen cartoon now and will be the thing they will remember with nostalgia when they're adults
Whether that's a bad thing or not is up to you
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Goose fucks.
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>>153860100
And you think that Viv is going to magically get better right at the end?
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>>153860083
How retarded are you to be a fan of the series made by a known yurifag and hate yuri. Susie will get her deer girlfriend and your nonbinary self-insert MC will sit on the sidelines smiling for them.
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>>153859504
Is there any art of him with a scorpion jacket?
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>>153860083
Thanks for not melting down
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>>153860100
And Vizie has bad endings AND all her episodes are bad. Just because Goose fucked the ending on an otherwise good series doesn't mean that a shit series with consistently shit writing and equally shitty writing for its endings is somehow better lol
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>>153860065
>Vivziepop mogs as a writer.
You people will say ANYTHING to shit on Goose now
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>>153860087
Goose only fucked episode 7*
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>>153860135
I put my faith in the weird route.
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In my AU, Jax is super buff and athletic and has tons of sex with all the girls and he acts and sounds like me.
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>>153860069
>>153860070

If fiction is supposed to say something ABOUT real life though, it can have “undeserved” bad things happen. Look at Game of Thrones, bad things often happen to nice people and assholes win sometimes.

More to the point: THIS STORY shows clearly that Ribbit, Queenie, and Kaufmo all seemed decent and they ALL committed suicide along with unexplored characters, so THIS VERY FICTIONAL STORY clearly does not ONLY have the “evil” characters punished with “deserved” suicide.
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>>153860173
Healthier response than most
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>>153860173
Fight Club AU Jax...
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>so many deltarunefags
is it because the Gooseworx and Toby Fox followings are too similar to each other?
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>>153860173
Does he still become a mindbroken cuckdog?
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>>153859651
>we are supposed to believe the blue dot ai was making him evil when it was him that eat the blue dot in the first place
No eating the blue AI and holding on to it, symbolically trying and failing to become the Blue AI which was accepted by humans, is what drove him crazy. Apologising for doing that and letting go the Blue AI was him realising it was the wrong path and letting go of that idea.

>and that they forgive him almost instantly
Jax didn't even apologise last episode and still everyone accepted him among them. Hell Jax never apologised to Gangle and she still cried for him.
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>>153860121
>The message is conveyed through everyone.
If the message makes audiences feel it is overly uncomfortable and unnecessarily cruel, where there are ways to make it more hopeful and satisfying while still conveying the same message, it is a failure. Especially when it is combined with the latter half of the episode.
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You think the ending ruined the series.
I disliked Episode 2 because it pivoted the concepts revealed in the pilot into character-based rather than horror.
You and I are not the same.
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>>153860026
>Do i really have to?
>Ughhhh let's go already
>I don't really feel like doing anything at all today
>Can we watch anime instead?
>It's not a horror themed adventure? lame i'm going back in my room
>Where can i buy drugs in this [Caine censor] barrel circus?
>Iunno what to wear today :P
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>>153860195
yes and I'm sure there are a bunch of ex-homestuckfags too
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>>153860134
I can't imagine being bad than TADC ep 9 because it should be intentionally fucked up to be this bad. Not by lack of talent nor by mistake.
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Just stop being an asshole
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>>153859666
It'll get a shit ton of retrospective videos from grown-up kids who didn't understand the broader themes of the show and were too focused on shipping.
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>>153860226
/Thread
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What if the leak was fake?
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>>153860245
Zero chance.
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>>153859638
Based, love Ragapom
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>>153860195
The only similarities are they have both autistic and troon followings
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>>153860195
Goose got a lot of popularity from making UTDR covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krUNpqa5Qpo

evil male pomni be like chaos chaos, i can do anything, metamorphosis, a true and neo chaos
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>>153860178
>If fiction is supposed to say something ABOUT real life though
TADC very clearly does. Like stunningly obviously it applies its thesis from real life to its characters. Your complaint is that the story didn’t have a random bout of luck that’s suboptimal for conveying the theme.
>Evil
Jax didn’t die because he’s an asshole. Jax died because he refused to accept the possibility that he could be someone else. It’s not a divine punishment for his misdeeds, but the natural end result of refusing to move on from them and grow. That’s the only unforgivable sin in the moral compass of TADC, giving up on yourself, and others.
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>>153860226
When are you going to?
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>>153860178
>it can have “undeserved” bad things happen
And after Caine took a dozen soul inside digital prison, seeing them suicide one by one, and tormented everyone for his fragile ego and got deleted, his magic power allowed him to return from the trash bin. How realistic.
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>>153859622
Awhile back some anons were sharing inspirations for their OC designs so I made a quick one for mine.
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>>153860245
It would be the most impressive hoax of all time
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>>153860245
at this point i'm hoping it is because i don't think i can take months of just this circular argument over and over again
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>>153860245
If the leak is fake and Jax doesn't have a terrible fate, the result would be atomic. Infinitely worse than the terrible result we got.
I say this as someone who feels terrible about the Jaxstraction
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>>153860245
Glitch does not have the logistics for that
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>>153860070
This. I can't wrap my mind around why they chose to throw everything out the window and say "you know what? fuck it, I'm going to do the exact opposite of what would be a good ending".
It was NOT the time to be le quirky chungus ebin ironic writer.
You know it's like when someone says they're going to do something retarded, and everyone else assume he's just joking and being ironic, then he does it unironically, and everybody is like
>wtf dude?
>that was cringe
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>>153860262
So what about everyone else who died? Did Queenie go Hollow because of some fundamental character flaw that the audience needed to be tut-tutted over?
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>>153860245
what if the earth were made of cereal?
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>>153860151
t. preferred Hazbin to TADC since the latter series existed
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>>153860245
That would be so funny.
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>>153860245
I doubt it after the response from Glitch about it.
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>>153860218
Hey, that's me! I have a trollsona too! BIIIIG loser!
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>>153860017
>thinks Gaslight District has any chance with the narrative mess that was the pilot
Anon...
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>>153860202
>If you didn’t make me feel a certain way it’s a failure
Goose has described this story as sad from the beginning. If he made you feel sad and uncomfortable, then it was a success because that was the intention. Now you can be a big boy and explore those feelings or you can throw a temper tantrum but it’s not the show’s fault how you choose to react. Just like Jax, it’s up to YOU to participate with difficult feelings or shy away from them and cope.
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>Hazbin totally has better writing than TADC guys
A FUCKING ROOT
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>>153860266
I can tell you're a homosexual from the art alone. Based.
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>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145154343
what was meant by this?

I'm guessing 7.5 got scrapped because the artist wants to finish 8 make probably make it the last one because of the ending
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>>153859547
I genuinely enjoyed Pomni and Jax's final moments together, painful as they may have been. The parallel to Kinger and Queenie being my personal fav.
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Jax
Ribbit
Kris
Noelle
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>>153860275
i mean, what would you prefer the discussion to be? more ocs? more people thirsting over the characters? i think the arguing is pretty nice, i like seeing all the different takes.
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>>153860286
Gooseworx didn't have people who would say that and they didn't have time to give advice and fix it anyway because of theater release deadline.
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>>153860262

You misunderstand me.

I’m not complaining at all because Jax didn’t get a happy ending, I’m saying that I don’t think whether the finale was good or bad hinges on whether or not Jax “deserved” to die.

I don’t think Ophelia “deserved to die” but I still think “Hamlet” is a good play!
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>>153860312
Stop posturing. Just be honest and act like the person you're talking to is a barking dog.
Yabba dabba doo.
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>>153860290
Reread the post again because this is addressed. Jax didn’t die because he’s evil, he died because he gave up. Same for Queenie. And it’s not a tut tut, it’s fuck don’t do that it’s sad when you do that.
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>>153859547
Ragatha's smile
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>>153860326
NTA, but art and memes about Jax being a dog now.
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>>153860293
Cereal comes from the earth so it kinda is.
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so when Goose gets that mood swing and decides to retcon everything, what do we do?
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>>153860312
>you can be a big boy and explore those feelings or you can throw a temper tantrum
so can goose
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>>153860320
7.5 is the last chapter they're working on, if they drop it then 8 won't happen. If this actually kills Toxic then I am going to seethe ngl.
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It’s time to move on to the next thing. Don’t trap yourself here.
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>>153860265
>And after Caine took a dozen soul inside digital prison,
Caine didn't make anyone scan their brains. Besides under that logic, isn't it Kinger and Scratch's doing for making the A.I and the brain scanner in the first place?

>seeing them suicide one by one, and tormented everyone for his fragile ego
Like Jax?
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>>153860342
I didn't say he was evil. Fundamental character flaw=/=evil.
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>>153860364
Goose is a big boy who explored those feelings in a show watched by millions of people.
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>>153860372
there is no next thing for me, not really looking forward to anything new and i'll just go back to watching old tv shows that are older than me
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>Pomni is afraid of touch because uhhhh goose said so
>70% of the finale is her hugging people
Explain.
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>>153860367
7.5 preview got deleted after the movie got leaked
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>>153860380
Goose didn't explore feelings. Goose gooned.
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>>153860316
Alas Starry is a girl and not a cute femboy twink but you're not the first to think that. Maybe I should try designing some femboy twinks.
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>>153860173
Still valid, was your intent to be mockery? Are people this bitter and irony poisoned nowadays to enjoy fanfics? Will fanfics become an "uncle" hobby now?
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>>153860372
The finale isn't even released for real yet man, it's not time for me to leave yet
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>>153860052
Pacifist is hippie feel good bullshit, Genocide is Halloween romhack slop.
Only the neutral endings are good.
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>>153860378
Neither did I. My point is to distinguish “deserve” as a condemnation of his negative behavior vs “deserve” as an unwillingness to fight for a better life. Jax didn’t “earn” his fate by being mean, he “earned” it by refusing the call to live, grow and change.
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>>153860373
Kinger and Scratch never intended for anything they made to be used the way Caine did. He created the Circus and forced them into existence.
Caine created the whole situation and watched at least 7 people abstract, Jax only forced 2 to abstract, and honestly Ribbit and Kaufmo were retarded for making the gay rabbit their emotional anchor.
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>>153860399
Then I guess I'm becoming muslim because im gonna FUCK THAT SHEEP
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mfw ragatha won
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>>153860397
All the previous previews got deleted too, and they said under the "Toxic7 Nightmare" post that 7.5 was nearly done.
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>>153860424
me when
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>>153860424
mfw one of the best OCs pops in
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Goose misogyny confirmed
https://x.com/i/status/1031652684674154496
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>>153860314
fake niggas will say anything to hate something
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>>153860392
Everyone is distraught and hugs are a good way to cool people down. Plus, both hugs were initiated by her.
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>>153860425
we'll see, having it end in an bad ending route will be really sad
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This has to be the most artificially "controversial" series I've ever seen. Every single corner of the internet is constantly crying foul over how you guys are all mean evil diabolical turbo-niggers that do nothing but rot away anything you touch, but every single "TADC controversy" I see is just Gooseworx having troon meltdowns over absolutely nothing. OH NOOOOO PEOPLE ON TWITTER ARE DUMB!!! Oh wait a second, you can say that about EVERY fandom. What makes TADC special? Fucking nothing, that's what.

The entire internet has been lied to. There is absolutely nothing unique or beyond the average expectation for shit behavior from the TADC fanbase. They're not suicide baiting like the SU fandom did, or overwhelmingly schizophrenic like the Arkham/JJK fandoms are, or having giant public meltdowns like the Rick&Morty/Homestuck fandoms did, or any of the other uniquely evil things that all the REAL toxic fandoms do. There is FUCKING. NOTHING. About this fanbase that has earned them the title as the internet's most obnoxiously toxic and vile fanbase in existence besides Gooseworx crying wolf on twitter.

Gooseworx is mentally weak. They have big autistic meltdowns online because they're mentally weak and can't handle kids on twitter being vocally retarded or people (god forbid) poking holes in their swiss cheese plot, and instead of being silent and moving on with their day they do that stupid troon bullshit where they have big fake-sarcastic meltdowns on twitter where they say a bunch of shit they fully mean but worded sarcastically so they can retract their statements if they catch a controversy, and whenever their fanbase has enough of their pathetic behavior they delete a bunch of shit and cry wolf about how their big mean fanbase is kicking sand in their eyes and shitbullying them. This fandom isn't the problem, it's Gooseworx and their inability to stop doomscrolling socials for their own show.
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>every random shitpost you make will be taken in the worst possible way to construct an elaborate fanfiction about you
Grim
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>>153860439
Which ones are the best and worst?
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>>153860413
Does the "regular" pacifist ending, that doesn't go to the Lab, count as a neutral ending?
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>>153860342

There’s as always lot of heavy Goomba Fallacy at work here, there’s definitely lots of discussion about how Caine and Jax are The Evil Characters and Jax but not Caine getting Divine Justice (through suicide?) is the whole problem.

But as a Bible Story intended to impart authoritarian totalitarian morals or even just some G.I. Joe moral about why you must always brush your teeth, yeah, it’s fucking awful anyway?
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>>153860456
Now you know what a /vg/ thread is like
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>>153860419
Did everyone else in the Undead Asylum "earn" it? "Earn" carries a strong connotation of moral judgement.
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>>153860455
But the ending was bad.
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>>153860440
the first reasonable thing he said
greetings from kazakhstan
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>>153860455
Correct. The “tadc is a horrible fanbase” meme is bullshit. It’s not all sunshine and roses but aside from the usual race communist weirdos and 14 year old idiots there’s nothing notably bad about the fanbase.
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Feels good knowing Nooseworx will ACK himself within this year.
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i still rly like this
>>153860457
uhhhhh dunno. fish guy is funny. i like tryful a lot cuz cute and silly.
barbra needs protection. knight guy is cool and looks like he'd be able to give barb a hug pretty easy.
snake eyes rules and i wanna pick him up and chuck him to try to get a six.
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>>153860480
Words have meaning, read them.
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jACKS lost
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>Ribbit:Don't burn those bridges Jax
>Kaufmo:Don't burn those bridges Jax
>Ragatha:Don't burn those bridges Jax
>Pomni:Don't burn those bridges Jax
>Jax:wow i shouldn't have burn those bridges im dead
>Jaxfags: wow i can't believe he wasn't given more bridges
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>>153859846
So why does Caine apologise to it, admits he'll miss it and let it go, then happily reunite with it in the credits and keep it around in a nice little cabinet where it has a window to look out at everything.

It's kind of funny that the blue AI may not actually be sentient, and Caine just had a whole crisis and enlightenment over eating his imaginary friend.
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>>153860482
>race communist
Munya?
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>>153860497
Have you ever even once convinced somebody to change their mind by being this disingenuous?
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>>153860455
Yeah if even cr1tikal can sniff out that the fandom isn't as bad as people say it is, then that's when you know it's overblown
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>>153860482
>race communist
Touch grass.
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>>153859666
Closeted troon and a mormon alt girl
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>>153860455
someone post the jax child kidnapping news article
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>>153860497
He didn't burn any bridges, he isn't BoJack. He just refused to even consider crossing any.
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>>153860497
jax the eternal loser
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>>153860531
Jax is Kumagawa Misogi?
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>>153860516
>Closeted troon
*Sissy who likes crossdressing and being pegged
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>>153860457
Fishguy and now that voluptous dragon princess that popped recently that i kind of imagine as a spoiled sweet lady like Charlotte La Bouff.
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>>153860526
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>>153859697
kek, probably more correct version if we consider Goose just hate Jax
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>>153860541
Same diff.
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>>153860526
That has nothing to do with the fandom though
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>>153860456

That always happens.

Once I posted some random comment to the effect of “I really like this art style” left and came back like a day later to see that it’d randomly drawn wank and anons had constructed this elaborate backstory about my job, age, life etc. and they were wrong about every goddamn thing they “obviously knew” about me and were working themselves up into conniptions over a bunch of details that they’d completely imagined.
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>>153860497
jax is such a creator's pet that none of those bridges were actually burned since no one held jax to his actions and still tried to include him in stuff
...and jax STILL abstracted like a bitch
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>>153860470
The people who are serious when they laugh at Jax and say fuck him he deserved it didn’t get the story either. I assume most are kidding and it’s just banter but who knows. They’re just as wrong as the people who try to excuse everything for him or think the ending is bad because he had a tragic conclusion.
>it’s awful anyway
It’s a good message conveyed well, don’t see the issue
>>153860476
The moral framework of tadc is very clear, you earn the future you fight for. Jax was unwilling to fight for his happiness and he died for it. So in the narrative context of TADC, everyone earned what they got.
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>>153860502
Because eating the evil twin is still a bad thing to him?
I don't say about credit because I'm not sure the thing he locked inside the cabinet was the Blue AI. He just tossed it to the Void, why would it be there?
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>circus gains access to the internet
>first thing I do is look up ragatha fanart
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>nobody predicted the ending
oh fuck off
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>>153859635
Bit of a mixed bag. Wish I could post here but my workplace got IP banned for child porn or something.

>>153859696
I can say with confidence that, in light of this new drawing, both Crank and I are in love. Congrats doll anon, she's adorable.
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>>153860587
fishguy, my beloved.
i'm gonna name him sticks. cuz fish sticks.
i want to imagine he looked in horror at caine at the implication and caine moved on while sticks was stunned.
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>>153860497
>>153860569
>>153860527
you could make a case that ribbit was the only burned bridge by the end of the flashback, but only because she couldn't return after being abstracted by jax's faggotry
and that burned bridge haunted jax for the rest of his days
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>>153860497
That wasn't the message of it at all yet you keep parroting this same shit every single thread as if it was an epic discord meme
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>>153860457
I like fishguy (very earnest), Spoils, the alien, Barbra, TV guy was pretty neat too.
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>>153860608
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>>153860547
If I rob a gas station in a Micky Mouse mask does that make me a Disney fan?
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>>153860620
LMAO
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>>153860600
>both Crank and I are in love. Congrats doll anon, she's adorable.
Thank anon! she's really enjoying all the compliments so far ^^
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>>153860581

This is super uncomfortable applied to Ribbit and Queenie “earning what that got” or as a metaphor for people with mental illness (say schizophrenia) who commit suicide. It’s an utterly vile message.
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If I lived in the Amazing Digital Circus I could save Ribbit and Kaufmo
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>>153860497
Only bridges worth taking were Ribbit and Pomni, and obviously only Pomni was important since she was the protagonist. We see a story between Pomni and Jax which she slowly tames him but he ends up abstracted offscreen after Kinger's unwanted lore dump.
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>>153860512
>>153860612
Cry jaxfag cry
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here
bald ragatha
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>>153860631
good thing it doesn't apply to them and the only one to deserve abstraction was jax lol
you only care because jax died. you weren't saying this shit in defense of anybody else before jax was at risk and eventually died.
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>Jax derangement syndrome continues
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>>153860420
>He created the Circus and forced them into existence.
Kinger created Caine and presumably the Blue AI and forced them into existence.
Kinger put Caine in an isolation cell for making bad output and neither of them apparently thought Caine breaking out and eating the othe was worth investigating.

>Caine created the whole situation and watched at least 7 people abstract.
So did Kinger.

>Jax only forced 2 to abstract,
Jax was ready to keep doing what he was doing regardless of how many abstracted.
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>>153860597
I got very close to predicting the ending but I thought it would be Caine’s mind palace they enter into and Jax would have to be climactically tested by how they have to restore Caine, by freely merging with him for a moment so he could understand the human condition personally. Basically Eva instrumentality with the whole cast. There, Jax’s vulnerabilities would be revealed and in Caine’s head we’d get some C&A stuff. It turned out Jax was the main set piece and Caine’s redemption was a b plot but I got close. I was 50/50 on Jax dying, the only surprise was the dog thing but it’s a headslappingly of course direction because of Ted’s fate.
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Jax' and Caine's story arcs only makes sense when you realize Gooseworx wrote each character to represent an aspect of him:
>Jax: How Gooseworx sees his male self before transitioning, especially his edgy, no doubt politically incorrect young self.
>Zooble: Gooseworx as a male-to-female trans, obviously.
>Pomni: Gooseworx' feminine ego ideal. Mixes traits of the idealized feminine like kindness and empathy with gender-neutral or masculine ideals of heroism.
>Ragatha: Gooseworx' mommy issues, in addition to being a more realistic feminine ideal.
>Gangle: The feminine side of Gooseworx' shadow self. As a bipolar patient, it represent Gooseworx' neurotic and paranoid traits after he no longer sees himself as a man, and his use of therapy speak to cope with them.
>Caine: Gooseworx as a writer. Absolutely scared of the masses not liking him or his work. At the same time, enjoys the authority that tweeting random lore bits to fans gives him over them. Saves himself by trying to make peace with the fans and scaling his own expectations down.
>Kinger: The most foreign character to Gooseworx' mind, perhaps the only major character to not be written as a representation of Gooseworx' mind. Perhaps someone Gooseworx could have become if his life had gone very differently.
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>Jax apologist syndrome continues
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>>153860654
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>>153860631
This is why we need to RETVRN to bants and abandon themes and such. We need to save our souls.
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>>153860245
i would fucking kneel
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Reminder to make sure every Jaxfag kill themselves the same way he did
Everyone is better off without them
Don't forget the message of Gooseworx and how much of an irredeemable prick Jax is
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>>153860631
It’s not vile to tell people to never kill themselves because it doesn’t make you happy and hurts everyone else (including it turns out the audience).
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link it
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>>153860694
That message kind of peters out when the credits show them all better off without him innit
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>>153860668
>Kinger
the father figure he didnt had
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>>153860686
i dont like jax but let's chill out a little
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Listen here chums, if Jax suicide wasnt such a fucked up thing in this episode no one would be talking about it, so yes, what goose did to Jax is super fucked up, we all know abstraction is allegory to suicide and that poor bunny cried at the end and regretted it all
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>>153860668
Why does Goose get horny at the idea of torturing his pre-trooning out self?
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>>153860660
>So did Kinger.
Kinger didn't make the circus, humans in the circus, nor those stupid adventures.
>Jax was ready to keep doing what he was doing regardless of how many abstracted.
Jax refused to make any more friends after seeing his two former friends abstracted after he distanced from them. Meanwhile, Caine produced more humans after almost all humans abstracted.
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>>153860623
You can't really compare something as widespread and ubiquitous as that with a mask of Jax. He had to go far out of his way to wear that.
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>>153860711
Nope, if you fight for a better tomorrow you can have a happy life. We mourn our dead (shown) but that isn’t all there is. Jax lingers as a reminder of the one they lost, but they can’t mope forever. They have to live.
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>>153860686
based
death to all jaxfags
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>>153860178
I don’t get why this observation is so hard for people to comprehend, as if the only possible takes on the writing must revolve around your personal attachment to Jax and whether you think he deserved to die or not. Sometimes stories just have inconsistencies when you try to frame them like this
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>>153860655

I actually hate Jax, and DO think he deserved to die.

I’m only just saying it now because this “people who commit suicide all morally deserved punishment” argument shit didn’t pop up here before outside of Bible thumpers.

Abstraction as a suicide metaphor is well known and I was replying specifically to the sentence “everyone in TADC earned what they got.” I don’t think Ribbit earned a terrible fate and some other characters were saved from abstraction by chance so there is a simple luck element there.
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>>153860682
He couldve just asked ribbit to peg his trauma away what a fucking idiot
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>>153860724
He deserves it.
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>>153860724
the only true thing that'll matter in the end is how the public reacts to it, i believe. We'll just have to wait and see
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>That truly was...the last act...
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>>153860741
Tadc is consistent with its story and theme though.
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>>153860668
kinger is goose if he embraced programming socks and got a software dev job
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>>153860738
>coping intensifies
Sorry buddyboy, Gooseworx already has shown they're happier than ever without Jax.
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I want to make out with Ragatha's dolly donut
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>>153860678
BALD
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>>153860737
Underage retard detected. TADC merch is ubiquitous bargain bin shit that's sold in basically every major store now. He didn't need to go "far out of his way" to get a shitty party city Jax mask.
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I hope I'm not the only one that will commit suicide during the screening.
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>>153860597
I've seen people who predicted the plot points of Caine surviving the deletion and of the Circus getting internet, but dismissed them because I assumed the ending wouldn't have Dei ex Machina like that. But you know what they say about assuming.
Also, people pretty much predicted the Blue AI plot point, it just didn't have any screentime and Bubble's self-deletion isn't explained if you haven't already predicted it by Episode 8.
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>>153860767
Jax as he was could not exist in that happy ending. He needed to grow or die for it to exist. He couldn’t grow, so he died.
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>>153860380
*Oney voice* You're a big boy
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Biggest winner is Gummigoo winning the clussybowl.
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>>153860686
we got one >>153860777
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>>153860586
There's nothing to suggest the blue AI is evil, just that eating it entrenched Caine's insecurities and toxic mindset.
Hell, it's not even clear if it IS sentient at all.

>He just tossed it to the Void, why would it be there?
I mean Caine just walked back without the Blue AI's power up, it's apparently just nitnit that difficult.

Prior to that sequence, you see Caine obsessing over a flashing Blue Light and making a Bubble face. It's definitely the Blue A.I.
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>>153860777
trips....
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>>153860772
Highest IQ post ITT
>>153860796
Ragatha*
but you get a silver medal despite not appearing in the finale that’s pretty cool.
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>>153860790
And in turn made everyone else happier and they have grown outside his influence.
Finally we're getting somewhere there.
You can't plug your ears on Gooseworx message...
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>>153860796
>won by never showing up and getting Pomni stolen away by Ragatha
Biggest cope ever award
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>>153860748
>“people who commit suicide all morally deserved punishment” argument shit didn’t pop up here before outside of Bible thumpers.
im on your side with that then. that's retarded.
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>>153860762
Which is why this discussion keeps going on because some of them think they can affect the direction of public opinion if they 'make' general consensus of this board before public opinion is set.
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>>153860796
GummiWHO
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>>153860748
>I’m only just saying it now because this “people who commit suicide all morally deserved punishment” argument shit didn’t pop up here before outside of Bible thumpers.
Probably some of this is opportunistic trolling but it is weird
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>>153860326
i don't know how you can see all of this and think they're "different takes" when it's literally the same takes echoed over and over again ad nauseum. Yes i would prefer those other things to this.
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>>153860694

This actual theme is extremely complex, in reality I think MAID and similar programs are often understandable.

Regardless, if that really is the message, I guess I don’t see it too well conveyed. I think something like Kinger and Queenie is a poignant “the pain suicide leaves behind” arc.

But then, while this is subjective, my opinion is that Jax was a poorly written character from start to finish. The series had many successes but to me that character was a miss.
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>>153860724
These threads have been nothing but gaslight and apologizing attrition these past few days, it's fucking annoying.
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You get trapped in the circus and Jax comes up to you and says the only way to prevent him from abstracting is fucking him silly. Would you do it? Could you do it?
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>>153860824
Yes there’s a manufacturing of negative sentiment going on for sure.
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>>153860777
ehhh not that soon but probably in the span of 2 years give or take
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>>153860266
as the one that described its badly damaged sheep, seeing ur OC makes me go pic related.
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>>153860796
Imagine the knot
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we thought Ragatha was a femcel but she was actually a Stacy the whole time
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>>153860777
sigh... moooods!
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>>153860854
Yes. i would do anything to save someone.
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>>153860796
This is the kind of post we need. More of this, less of "themes and such".
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>>153860777
how are ya gonna do it?
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>>153860862
Have you ever met a horsegirl who isn't?
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>>153860796
>gets zero screentime and is still thought about by the main character
>gets the entire show and turns into a dog
>I'm meant to believe the bottom is the winner
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>>153860859
Thanks, I thought your sheep OC sounded really interesting!
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>>153860862
>Jax cuts ties with his mom
>Dies
>Ragatha cuts ties with his mom
>Wins
Hmmm
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>>153860777
haha youre a faggot you wont do that
but just in case see you in the news
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>>153860862
Name means innocence and purity and she blushed like a tomato hearing Gangle and Zooble btw
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>>153860888
checked
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>>153860843
>in reality I think MAID and similar programs are often understandable.
Found the leaf.
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>>153860801
>insecurities and toxic mindset.
That toxic mindset wishes to torment people.
>it's apparently just nitnit that difficult.
So you're saying it was tossed to the void only to be somehow retrieved by Caine?
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>>153860885
guess Jax was just bitchmade
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>>153860777
>yet again fedposting
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>>153860888
I've been on the scale of weighting if the ending would be shit or not and finally have my response, TADC was the only thing keeping me alive lately and soon I'll finally be free.
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What's it like to have become the laughing stock of the entire internet?
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>>153860843
Seems very well conveyed and focused to me.
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>>153860888
well shit, now he can't go through with it unless he gets trips again
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>>153860245
It would unironically be a contender for the greatest trick of all time.
But it's literally impossible. To make that trick work would cost probably millions of dollars in animating, artwork, and voice acting.

The scary thing is that potentially in ~50 years AI would be able to make this trick work but everyone would be so desensitized to it by then.
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>>153860833

I mean it’s 4chan the “kys” site I know damn well a lot of it is trolling lol, but there’s just a weird running bit of it even on twitter (an utter cesspool tbf) and it’s so fucked up
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>>153860855
Both sides are manufacturing.
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>>153860812
>>153860808
Ragatha is as much NTRing Gummigoo as Caine or Kinger. Pomni never was hinted at being a lesbian, nor Ragatha as being anything other than insecure autistic lady wanting friends and attention. Pomni with Gummigoo should be as obvious as Caine with the Moon.
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>>153860885
What were Susie ACKerman's ties with Ms. Mateo?
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>>153860464
If you don't fight god of hyperbitching or bad tom you got a neutral ending.
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>>153860922
I’ll ask Jax hold on…
He says “bark bark”
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>>153859504
Would you prefer jax getting goosh goosh instead of an off screen abstraction
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>>153860855
Oh fuck off. You already have that retarded long haired faggot releasing a "It's good, fandom bad and wrong" video to millions of vierwers. If anything the entire thing leans more towards people trying desperately to spin it positively.
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>>153860895
you made me google the meaning behind names and apperantly there is a girl somewhere out there named "deliverance" lmao
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>>153860920
you're going to reenact Jax's bad end where he realizes too late he doesn't want to die?
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what am i supposed to do with this how do i drag the subs to mpv
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>>153859622
quick doodle because people keep thinking she's a femboy makes me laugh, also the whiteboard is crapping out so i couldn't spend much time on this
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>>153860951
But I want to die. Now more than ever.
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>>153860777
If you do, save it for the ending where we see everyone better off without Goose's self-insert, and when you do it announce that you got Goose's message loud and clear.
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>>153859547
Jax died. I liked that even if it makes all of the time the show wasted on him even more irritating in retrospect since we could have used that time to develop the characters who didn't spend their entire existence beating women before necking himself.
It was also nice seeing Ragatha happy.
>>153859666
If there is still a /co/ it will probably be remembered as that one show with the cute doll girl. More broadly it'll have the same kind of legacy as Steven Universe. A show with all the potential in the world that fumbled it.
>>153859683
Maybe don't make the suicide victim an objectively awful person if that is the message that you are going for. What we saw made him look like a hopeless sexual sadist who really for the good of everyone should not stick around in a world with no real consequences.
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>>153860929
The kids are not ok, as they say
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>>153860932
>Pomni with Gummigoo should be as obvious as Caine with the Moon.
Then why wasn't he in the finale
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>>153860971
That's a better idea.
I'm so tired of this...
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Media Illiterate here. Was Jax's movie meant to be sympathetic? Everything I learned about the character just turned him from "edgy asshole who masks his feelings" to a genuinely horrible person who has a comical level of support and acceptence and he goes out of his way to burn everyone because he can't decide if he likes dresses or not
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>>153860960
open a video and then open the subs from the menu, retard?? Mexican??
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>>153860932
So where is he? I don't see him here.
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>>153860969
Go for it anon, you'll be a cautionary tale! This'll be great for the themes!
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>>153860733
>Kinger didn't make the circus,
Kinger made Caine and presumably the Blue AI.
He locked up Caine in quarrantine and didn't even do anything when Caine broke out and ate the other A.I.

Didn't even step in to help Jax after he accidentally broke the circus.

>Jax refused to make any more friends after seeing his two former friends abstracted after he distanced from them.
Anon he he pushed them away by being an asshole. He also physically and psychologically bullied everyone over years.

Jax shouldn't have abstracted but not because he wasn't a dick.
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>>153860987
Like Goose said if you already disliked Jax the finale wasn't going to change your feelings about him.
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S2
Jax gets unabstracted but hes now a french poodle instead of a bunny
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>>153860993
the latter
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>>153860977
Pomni is not yet ready, or they just shown moments where he wasn't around.
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>>153860927
the double trips means he has to do it
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>>153861015
come on man lol
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>>153860969
but you can't be sure you'll still feel the same when you can't take back your decision. if you're going to throw your life away then do something that could change your life for the better no matter the risk
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I used to read every post here, now I just skip over 95% of them since they're all the same as the last fifty threads.
Like and subscribe
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>>153860961
She would be so hot as a femboy
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>>153861036
Thank you :)
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>>153861032
Man i'm glad there's at least one other person in the same boat as me. How are you doing anon, you up to anything right now?
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>>153860932
>ntring
Gummigoo and Pomni aren’t in a relationship, UNLIKE Ragatha and Pomni who are canonically each other’s deepest relationship (they admitted to themselves in an intimate lovey climax) by the end of the series.
Caine and Kinger have no such relationship with Pomni, Caine is sex averse and Kinger is loyal to his wife (as we see in the epilogue).
Gummigoo (or rather Gummitwo, since Gummigoo is dead and his memories and their shared experience deleted) was shown to be let go by Pomni when she realized it wasn’t her Gummigoo. He is contrasted against Jax’s memories of Ribbit in episode 7 which firmly places him in the dead friend zone. Could Pomni someday want to take a wack at Gummitwo? Maybe, it’s possible. But that’s pure speculation with no crumbs towards that direction in the finale, only hype is her flirting scene at Spudsys which is some motivation. Ragatha meanwhile already is the closest and now sex is on the table. She was her first and closest relationship in the circus, and that’s a first place.
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>>153860932
Women can't NTR. Not sexist, it's just biology
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since goose likes to lie, is it POSSIBLE a season 2 or a seperate show (same show, different name) to come out at a later time?
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>>153861049
beating my meat to pomni
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Guys help me i was never a yurifag but that Ragapom hug fucked with my brain, now I just want them to be happy together forever
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>>153860824
you can tell by the way they will reply only to control the range of expressed ideas and create participant archetypes in conversation while ignoring all opportunities to engage with substance
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>>153860946
>people who think more critically about it have a more positive take than a kneejerk emotional reaction
Makes sense to me
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>>153860994
Just because we don't see Orbsman, doesn't mean he isn't around. They are now having multiply worlds with many new individual characters living in them. Its no longer Gummigoo being recycled for different scenarios. He now have his home.
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>>153861060
The Amazing Digital World?
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>>153860903
>That toxic mindset wishes to torment people
Yes, it's Caine's toxic mindset born from holding on to the blue AI in his head, that he's now letting go.

Either Caine got it back or it just floated back to him. I'm not saying it's well explained, it just doesn't align with the idea that the blue AI was evil.
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>>153861060
Eh
A prequel with the original crew could be neat, scratch and kinger interactions could be fun
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>>153860763
>kaufmo really did find an exit
>got control of the computer from outside
>spawned a duplicate of one of the abstracted to fool caine and the humans
>starts changing jax' mind to eventually abstract him as revenge
>jax notices his mind is being messed with, which is why he accused caine
>creates a ghost version of ribbit to fuck with jax, but pomni entering the room interrupts it
>ultimately causes jax to abstract anyway
>randomly connects and disconnects a wi-fi adapter to the ancient computer for the lulz
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>>153861060
there's no way that we're gonna get any followup to this without it being a glitch ran thing without gooses involvement
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>>153861003
Poodles are German tho
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>>153861050
Oh my god, Pomni could have TWO Gummigoo boyfriends
Would bandit Gummigoo and a breakfast trip to Spudsy's Gummigoo be friends?
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>>153861060
I don't see what story they could tell that isn't about fixing Jax, and if they decide not to go that route people will spend another 3 years going "they're totally gonna fix Jax dw". Goose said shorts are a possibility but that was before her love for this show was killed.
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>>153861064
You don’t need help, enjoy your exception, it’s a good one!
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>>153861069
They never went to the digital carnival
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>>153861060
Sure not because she lies but because Glitch made a lot of money from it to the point it got them in theaters, anything is possible
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>>153861085
>A prequel with the original crew could be neat
oh great more misery kino
I would LOVE to see them all abstract
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>>153859547
I liked the FunnyBunny hug, I liked seeing their real selves, and Caine's interaction with Moon was genuinely one of the best scenes from the show (even though Caine should've stayed dead).
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>>153861050
>Gummigoo and Pomni aren’t in a relationship
Stopped reading right there, and nobody else read your post so you wasted all that time writing beyond that point
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>>153861096
wtf i love kaufmo now?
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>>153861102
Gummione is dead
Gummitwo is technically also dead
Technically if Pomni tried to start anew it would be Gummithree (no other copies present).
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>>153861085
id like a prequel actually
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>>153861049
Hanging in there, holding out hope against hope that this will all blow over and people will be less confrontational after they've had time to process. Just reading fanfics right now to pass the time.
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do you think goose can be bribed with money? like if she gets millions from the movie will she make a follow up on fixing jax?
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>>153861122
>lalala I’m not listening!
>I am everybody!
Cope.
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can someone explain what happened to Jax and woman he accidentally? hit irl
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>>153861096
the absolute madman
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>>153861085
We already know the fate of two of the original members so it wouldnt be that worth while to watch
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>>153861099
>any followup to this without it being a glitch ran thing without gooses involvement
Imagine they did that and it's infinitely better written because it contains none of Goose self-therapy shenanigans
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>>153861151
>The Amazing Digital Circus 2: THE ENCORE!!
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Goose. You're not done yet. You still need to release the soundtracks.
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>>153861122
Why would a true statement trigger you
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>no swearing because the digital circus is for all ages so we can sell toys!
>btw the finale ends in suicide
Bravo, truly the Breaking Bad of Youtube.
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>>153861169
i think it would be lol
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>>153861151
jax is never being fixed
it's over anon
he's gone forever
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>>153860948
Puritan naming schemes were great. We kept the boring ones like Faith and Hope. But there were some wild ones like Hate-Evil, Lord-is-Near and If-Christ-had-not-died-for-thee-thou-wouldst-have-been-damned
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>>153861177
the moment caine is gone the whole circus becomes a nuthouse
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>>153861151
Rebuild of Circus
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>>153861102
>Spudsy's Gummigoo dissociating as Candy Kingdom Gummigoo tells him about his time in the Void
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>>153861151
He has no balls so he’s already fixed like a good doggy
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>>153861132
Even if he just appearead as an NPC gas station clerk in one of their adventures, he would probably hit it off with Pomni, so there is no excuse why people still cope with any Pomni ship other than FunnyGummy. She was into his personality and look, not just becuase she was potying his situation. He doesn't need to remember his trauma.
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>>153861185
i wish i had a badass name like that
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>>153861009
Don't mexicans understand monkey speech?
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>When Caine becomes a better person, he walks up stairs
>When he's evil and singing, he walks down stairs
Wow...
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I don't care if the narrative inspiration is psychosexual, just write it better.
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>>153861213
You are the one coping man, he wasn't even in the movie. Just let him go, Pomni already did so why can't you?
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>>153861199
>Caine does the giant merge of Gummigoo data
>it create a single Gummigoo with memories of all worlds
Fixed, now he's a super aware NPC living in their world
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Gangle's curry weeb pussy.
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>>153861226
No, they have bean speech. It's different from ther monkey screeching in brazil.
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>>153861151
Digital Circus 1.0: You Will (Not) Abstract.
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>>153861236
He didn't need to be in the movie because the main resolution wasn't about human brain scan falling for NPC. He is Pomni's private life.
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im just thinking about all the incidentals who just happened to see the circus movie on a poster outside the theater on some random day and decided it would be a good idea to watch this funny looking cartoon, only to be assaulted by 3 of the 5 senses immediately upon entering the theater room(sight, sound and smell of the TADC fans)
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>>153861213
>I headcanon therefore it is
Second place is pretty fucking comfy for no appearances since episode 4 man. Pomni appeared to let him go and move on but if you want to interpret Ragapom as platonic and imagine she goes for Gummithree that’s chill by me. But claiming victory on the Pomnibowl is silly. Ragatha got the last hint and it was a doozie and Gummigoo got nothing but room to headcanon. Be happy with what you got.
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>>153861151
If Goose ever touches this franchise again she would pull a Deponia Doomsday. She would have Leroy spawn another Jax just so she could kill him again
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>>153861258
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>>153861258
It tastes like McDicks with an aftertaste of McGangbang
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>>153861085
After finding out that Scratch and his personality becoming crazy and unapproachable from the brain disease are just plot devices to justify how Kinger doesn't know about the humans being the mind files and about what is really going on with Caine, I no longer want to see Scratch have actual lines written.
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>>153861258
I'd prefer her ribbussy thanks
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>>153860961
where the whiteboard
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>>153860083
>will happen
Give it up man. The QT tomboy dinosaur is already lost and we have to deal with Toby's terrible yuri writing for three more chapters.
>>153860455
I remember when we were getting called evil for a few weeks because some people on Reddit had given Goose some light criticism in a Reddit comment section about Jax sucking all of the air out of the room and Ragatha being the only character who had next to no screentime. They weren't particularly rude and had no idea that it was Gooseworx but somehow that reflected badly on all of us.
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>>153861258
>wake up in digital world
>call it jeetcoded slop
>Gangle squeeks and starts crying
How do you apologise and make it up for her?
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>>153861094
gangle was the biggest winner out of this
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>>153861258
>no accent
>no turmeric smell
>nerdy hobbies and white passing temperament
The perfect indian woman
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>>153861318
i do not redeem it
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>>153861312
https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25753347-1562-5722
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>>153859622
I woke up, i will do the anchor next thread
>>153859828
So cute
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>>153861327
I haven't had a single sexual thought about Gangle ever since the race reveal
She lost her biggest fan
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>>153860065
Adam should come back though.
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>>153861204
heh
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>>153859968
still on denial and anger i see
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>>153861317
What’s even stupider is that reddit comment was actually well thought out and reasonable, and it was Goose who posted like a snarky jackass. There’s a reason that account is deleted.
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>>153859828
scene mime slut is cute
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>>153861264
I know it's different, but I heard they can get used to understanding Italian relatively well, so I assumed it would be similar. I had an acquaintance who spoke Spanish but said she understood Monkeyese too.
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>>153861288
>Another chance to actually make Jax's death good
That would be a good thing
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>>153859567
Think for yourself ya fucking sheep
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>>153861318
Rape. i'm sure she's already used to it
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>>153861113
I'm dumb and I don't know how copyright works. Can Glitch make season 2 without Goose?
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>>153859683
I kinda feel bad like just a little?? The problem was that he fumbled with ribbit so hard, it was literally all his fault and not her, actually I feel more sorry for ribbit than him. She showed full trust to him and he kept pushing her, so much so, that he yelled at her and even when he saw she needed helo he purposely ignored it. I know victims are flawed but that situation with ribbit was fully his fault. maybe I'm kinda missing the point why was he mad at her, because of shitty quality and translation errors but still. She reached out and helped multiple times yet he refused, heck I kinda hoped they'd show friendship with Kaufmo as continuation and explanation of trauma but no. I'm sorry not, but she was the victim not him. I know traumatised people hurt eachother alot, but there's no excuse for him in that, many months of ignoring and hate isn't good
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so, how about the amazing digital fight club, huh?
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>>153861185
>1630, Nov. 18. Baptized Humiliation, son of Humiliation Hyne.
>1600, April 13. Baptized Repentance Gilbert, a bastard.
>God-reward Smart, of Fivehurst.
>Search-the-Scriptures Moreton, of Salehurst.
>Stand-fast-on-high Stringer, of Crowhurst.
>More-fruit Fowler, of East Hothley.
>Free-gift Mabbs, of Chiddingly.
>Increase Weeks, of Cuckfield.
>Kill-sin Pimple, of Witham.
Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature is a world classic.
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>>153859949
Nice dice. Here's a bit of >>153859622:
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Did anyone else get Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind vibes from the Jax sequence?
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>>153861213
>>153861287
>>153861132
>>153861102
>>153861050
This whole argument is retarded because on a digital purgatory where time is infinite there is no way Pomni never summons Gummigoo and takes both him and Ragatha at the same time. It's not an if but when.
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Anybody who defends Jax abstracting off-screen is a retard.
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>>153860987
All signs point towards it trying to be sad. Everyone cried like they were all friends, he got a tearfully farewell from Pomni, he got that comically faggy death montage and they made a big deal about him not being as pathetic in real life.
I think we were really supposed to feel for him despite all of the people he hurt and his complete lack of positive qualities.
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>>153861335
lol
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What if Pomni had a character and she was trying to escape the circus into the void.
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>>153861352
Gangle is a pile of ribbons, not Realgle (i'd still fuck both)
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>>153861403
Pure headcanon
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>>153861385
He didnt want to connect with ribbit because she reminded him of his mother, just like ragatha and pomni, he reacted badly because he realized he overshared just like he did with his mother. Jax is a deeply troubled individual.
Like i dont want to be mean to you but were you guys paying attention to the movie while watching?
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>>153861388
41%d
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>>153861403
You can headcanon that too if you want. I see her moving on from gummigoo as pretty conclusive, and he didn’t appear while the biggest Ragapom scene did. By the general metrics of an inconclusive bowl, Ragatha placed first.
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What did gooseworx mean by having their only indian character get hit by a truck
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episode 6 was the peak of this show and you cannot convince me otherwise
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>>153861317
>Ragatha being the only character who had next to no screentime
Ragatha has a lot of screen time, third most in the show. The issue is that Goose doesn't do much with it.
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>>153861448
>weeb meets truck-kun
don't gotta make it a race thing, dawg
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>>153861450
it was. Honestly i think every time the show isn't goofy fun it goes straight to being mega mid and that one was just a lot of fun
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>>153861448
It means she got hit by a truck
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>>153861448
>their only indian character get hit by a truck
Not even in fictional media they can escape the juggernaut
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>>153861464
Literally an indian stereotype.
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>>153860883
aw,
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>>153861431
wait, seriously? I haven't been keeping track of it, what happened?
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>>153861448
the juggernaut is the most holy way to die or something
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>If you think the way Jax's fate was handled is bad then that means the show did its job
I fucking hate this argument so much, it's so stupid. You can have Jax abstract and not have it be a complete waste of a finale.
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>>153861476
i thought it was trains tho
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>>153861318
just start talking about weeaboo shit with her and she'll forget about it in a second
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>show with peak visuals gets ruined by shitty writing
everytime
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>>153859547
it made me want to rape Jax
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>1
Introduction
>2
>3
>4
>5
>6
>7
Pointless filler
>8
Something happens
>9
Unsatisfying conclusion

Literally my mom's Naruo
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i could never be friends with gangle, she probably likes shounen and slice of life crap
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>>153861493
That’s not the argument. The argument is if it makes you feel sad or disturbed then the show did its job. If “the way it was handled” to you means “it made me feel icky and I wanted him to make it” then it did its job.
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>i could never be friends with this character
Do you even have any friends?
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>>153860093
>when he finds the Gangle x Ribbit yuri
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>>153861534
no
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>>153859547
Ragatha got what she fucking deserved (happiness and friends)
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>>153861534
I have (You), nonny! :D
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>>153861521
i could but that's because she probably knows some bomb ass h-game suggestions
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>>153861516
You aren't supposed to point that out
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>>153861516
>plotfag gets filtered by a message+character show
Many such cases
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>>153861478
Not them but I haven't heard anything about it ending, they might be thinking of the Jax Show.
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>>153861450
It was solid, I like 1, 4 and 5 better though.
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>>153861576
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>>153861516
>1
Introduction
>2
"Filler" but it sets up what an average adventure looks like
>3
Kinger's episode
>4
Gangle's episode
>5/6/7/8/9
Jax's episodes
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>>153861384
Not dumb, for this kind of thing it depends on the contract she negotiated with them. They probably wouldn’t without her approving of it even if they can. Because TADC is a successful creator driven show, they’d really want her onboard to develop something like that when she’s ready even if she doesn’t manage the show. But she would also have more leverage post-TADC if she sold a new IP instead.
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>>153861429
I am, just the quality was shit and translations had many errors and that could be the reason. I somewhat understood that he his father treated him as a failure and left the house, while his mother became something strange. That's part I'm still uncertain about cause he says that she started laughing at him and suddenly hugged, it made him feel weird and he pushed her hard, and he didn't saw her standing back up. It made him scared therefore he run away and become homeless before going to circus? was that right? or not, please explain. I know he overshared trauma and felt unsafe but for me, how ribbit show such intimacy, was such a big sign of trust I've ever seen. And as much as we know isn't ribbit first one who actually tried helping him? I understand him pushing away ragatha or pomni, but ribbit? who was first person to help slightly strange.
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>>153861527
No, “the way it was handled” to me means “the way it was handled”. I would have felt bad for him regardless if the execution was good. Instead it was complete shit.
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>>153861365
And the best part is that they were proven right despite Goose's freakout.
Ragatha didn't really have any meaningful on screen growth and Jax continued to hog the plot until his dying breath.
>>153861429
Seems like a lot of people conveniently reminded him of his mom to get that ball rolling. If any woman being slightly interested in him caused him to sperg out why did he keep making friends with women?
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>>153861618
Yes anon pretty much everything wrong with jax can be traced back to his trauma with his mother and father even his insecurity with the trans thing
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>>153861527
Again, this is a horse shit argument, because you can evoke these feelings in someone while making the narrative impactful. Having him abstract in a fucking scene transition immediately crushes all tension and build up the show had. Especially when there was no reason for him to abstract when everyone was rebuilding the Circus anyway. You wanna know examples of good abrupt deaths? Caine and Queenie, they conveyed their points wonderfully. The issue is that Goose wanted his cake and eat it too, because then we spend most of the runtime with Jax achieving absolutely nothing. What's the fucking point of trying to make a tearful and impactful climactic hug when he already abstracted and was also revealed to be a complete psychopath? I wish the show made me feel bad, I wish the show delivered on a heart-wrenching fucked up ending for Jax, I wish Goose got to properly create his vision, but shit writing and narrative framing spoiled it. It's bad because it's bad, not because it's sad.
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>>153861631
If you paid attention to the movie instead of shitposting in this mongolian forum you might have noticed he actually had a crush on the only girl that did not remind him of his mother, Gangle.
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>>153861318
Change for the better and grow as a person unlike Jax
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>>153860547
>Jax will now be known as a sex offender symbol to parents
a fitting fate
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>>153861669
>crush
I read that as him wanting to fuck her entirely to spite Zooble. Hence why in his fantasy like a minute later where Gangle was dead and it was implied to be his fault he was in full silly little guy mode and fucking with Zooble.
Also the whole thing was blatantly just Goose trying to revive the toxic Gangle/Jax art that he was openly a fan of.
Besides would it even fucking count as a crush if he would tell her to kill herself the moment they actually started getting along?
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>>153861060
unless they can find a way to bring Jax back from abstraction no one will truly care to watch it. Jax was a fan favorite.
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>>153861258
Jax....Zooble....
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>>153861365
>and it was Goose who posted like a snarky jackass
Self-conscious retards love doing that thing where they just bluntly say rude shit and pretend everything they posted was snarky deadpan irony but none of these retards can comprehend that grift stops working the moment the topic is inherently seriously or the person trying to pull it is in a seat of inherent authority. That grift only works when you're an edgy teen and nobody you're pulling it on cares enough about your opinion to call it out. The moment you're the adult and a bunch of kids are picking apart what you said and going "well that was awfully rude and bad faith thing to say, and it didn't actually answer any questions" it's all over.

Also Gooseworx crashed out for lurking on a completely separate subreddit than the main one which means this dumbass went out of their way to hunt down mild complaints to crash out over. Isn't Gooseworx friendly with Oneyplays (and by extension, Zach Hadel)? You'd think they'd have half a dozen people telling them to explicitly *NOT* do that exact kind of shit.
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>>153861837
Jax has one of those young boy things where he likes to bully who he likes
Cmon anon lets use our brain here not everything needs to be explicitly said on the screen, its pretty obvious just by waht we are given



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