They could have taken the basic premise and made an all-ages family adventure film on a lower budget and done better, but instead they blew $200 million on a blockbuster targeted at nostalgic toy collectors who are old enough to get all the Filmation in-jokes and references.
>>154084801Didn't help that they teased the possibility of it being woke. Death sentence for anything not strictly targeted at foids
>>154086258>>154084801Families went to the amazing digital circus instead of He-man. TADC was smart enough to not put tranny shit in the marketing or trailers.
>>154084801>TADC was smart enough to not put tranny shit in the marketing or trailers.Yeah they just stuck it all over the horrible episodes/movie.
>>154086473Ew that's disgusting. I feel so bad for kids
>>154084801>lower budgetthat's the problem
>>154086258Yeah, sure, your retarded buzzword was what killed it. Not Jared Leto, who has proven time and time again to be box-office poison.
>>154084801Give it two weeks and Scary Movie will slow down. Movie is ass and word of mouth will kill all goodwill from viewers.
>>154088032Also critics have already give it bad reviews.
>>154084801i like he-man's haircut
>>154088064I mean, it's not like it stopped Scary Movie from making bank before. Pretty much all those movies have been critically panned.
>>154087990Why do you faggots get so defensive that even a single ticket might not have been sold based on the trailer.
>>154088064have already given*
>>154087990>Your buzzwords are dumb and obviously not the reason it flopped!>It obviously was my celebrity obsession, which is 100% accurate and fair!That's some fine mental illness you're packing
>>154084801Amazon MGM Studios and Mattel wanted a new generation to discover this movie, but kids under 12 only repped 4% of the audience last night, with the over 35 at 57% still dominant, and the over 45 who grew up on the 1980s animated series at 36%. Sixty-eight percent guys, with dads outnumbering moms, 71% to 29%. And, yes, boys under 12 at 82% are far ahead of girls at 18%.https://deadline.com/2026/06/box-office-scary-movie-masters-of-the-universe-backrooms-1236941701/Too bad there's not much kids, since they seem to like the movie
>>154088263no one was paying attention to either, he man isn't popular enough for that
It's not a bad movie. Saw it yesterday
>>154087859No, the problem is that they spent to much on a movie with lomited appeal. They should have made a family movie instead of a gen x nostalgia movie.>>154088289Get rid of the Earth stuff and hqvw Adam living on Eternia and the Sorceress give him the sword earlier, then most of the movie is about He-Man fighting Skeletor instead of dragging on for thr first 40 minutes. Replace the marvel humor with actual jokes (He-Man made jokes all the time in the show, he never made one in the movie), have some actual swashbuckling sword fights instead of retard slow-motion cgi shit, and cut the runtime down to an hour and a half, end on the classic "I'll get you next time He-Man!" and you'll have the kind of movie this should have been. Something that younger viewers will be drawn to while reminding older fans of why they liked the show.
>>154088432Most anons that watch it say it is good.
who the fuck cares about heman in current year
>>154088032Scary Movie 6 will no doubt get a massive drop off, but I fail to see how that’ll improve MOTU’s chances, especially since Toy Story 5 is coming soon.
>>154088503>lower the budget> Get rid of the Earth stuffThe earth stuff is what kept the budget from inflating further. Eternia requires a ton of money to depict. It’s why even the 80s move had to do that.
>>154084801>Adam stays awkward and gawky before and after all character development beats >Writers stress emphatically he doesn't get the girl, but not because he's beyond jestermogging for foids as the kids would say he still is hover handing the fuck out of teela >No earnestness at any point, everything must be undercut by metahumor >A cock or gay sex joke every 4 minutes This could have been the zoomers Harrison bergeron with the HR cunt human world shitposts and unavoidable story about destroying capricious evil but they pulled back every time it mattered to keep Adam(literallyyou) a barely tolerated dingus in their movie. A just reward they only managed to piss off seemingly everyone with this. They also should have CGI'd He-mans muscles and had the natty but not mr. Universe physique of the actual actor the default Adam. Instead of every instance of added humor, there could have been the passive joke of Adam being in HR struggle sessions with an eternian physique.
>>154088744You could just as easily save money by cutting out the Earth stuff entirely and making the film shorter.
>>154088744IDK man, I feel like they could gone and filmed in some badlands and superimposed He-Man buildings in it.Plenty of 80s fantasy films look plenty fantastical without bloated budgets.
>blaming wokeness and bad actors instead of just accepting no one gives a fuck about He-man
>>154088856That's the problem. The movie did nothing to make people care. Thwy should have gone in assuming that they have to introduce these characters to a new audience instead of relying on nostalgic Gen Xers who already know about them.
>>154086473>tadc succeeded because it hid the tranny shitBot tier
>>154088997The anon right. TADC really downplay all the LBGT stuff until the finale.
>>154088997>That's the joke.jpg
>>154088694Me
I'm in my late 30s and I grow up with TMNT, Transformers and GI Joe on syndication but not He-man. For people that were around back in the day, was He-man airing back in the early 90s? or is this movie's target audience only 40 something year old men?
>>154088786Adam isn't entitled to sex or love or anything else from women and boys need to be taught this
>>154088064Professional critics are shit at their jobs. The only thing a good critic review means is that the film is inoffensive and pandering to leftwing politics. Fuck writing, fuck acting, fuck cinematography, your average movie reviewer is a parasite.
>>154090134I'm not much older than you and I barely remember He-Man existing. I checked online and it stopped airing in 1990.
>>154088694Divorced dads in their 40s
>>154089504I doubt that's a joke, antiwoke tards don't tend to be smart
>>154084801>targeted at nostalgic toy collectors who are old enough to get all the Filmation in-jokes and references.While at the same time being embarrassed as fuck of its source material and treating everything like a joke and not with any type of earnestness. It the Marvel trope of making fun of the OG costume but applied to every single element
>>154090347>The only thing a good critic review means is that the film is inoffensive and pandering to leftwing politicsYeah that reminds me of when they trashed Top Gun 2, a very conservative patriotic movie starring a Scientologist.
>>154090272>Adam simps, learning and extolling nothing about innate self worth >Movie bombs
>>154084801How come TADC is doing worse than Scary Movie?
>>154091082Because the Wayans did a good online campaign to promote their movie. Also nostalgia bait.
>>154091082Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
Why is the most powerful man in the universe a DYEL?
>>154091171>Just slouches in earth clothes >Avoid cgi budget being slightly larger by using actors physique >HE-Man dyel to idris elba and skeletor in padded costumes and the 900 year old Lungren cameo They forgot to force feed him TRT like at marvel HQ
>>154091171a what?
>>154091082I'm surprised and really pleased it's doing this well t bh, it beat scary movie at thursday previews, but I think a lot of the people who wanted to see it watched it thursday, and it's gonna taper off hard from here on
>>154090741>While at the same time being embarrassed as fuck of its source material and treating everything like a joke and not with any type of earnestness.Speaking of, did He-Man open with that gay ass Transformers Apology Tour ad too? It's shit like that that made me realize that maybe Gen X was the beginning of the irony disease after all and not millennials alone like I always thought
>>154084801>They could have taken the basic premise and made an all-ages family adventure film on a lower budget and done betterNow this is interesting
>>154088827Because they just shot in the desert or had such low budgets they barely did anything on screen except talk, talk and talk while walking around endlessly. Old fantasy movies are notorious about having rad as fuck covers that don’t reflect the actual movie at all or they blow their entire budget on first/last five minutes
>>154091324>maybe Gen X was the beginning of the irony disease after allOf course they were. They've been doing since the early 90s. Kevin Smith built his career on it.
>>154086473There's Huntress Wizard tier stuff in there?
>>154088503There should not have been a 15 year gap it should have been 5 at the mostAlternatively if you're gonna do that kind of gap make it like Hook where he's actually been convinced it's all fake and he draws a comic in his off time
>A family movie would have done betterCope
>>154091171roidtrannies mostly look like shit so they hired a model, he did pretty well getting big in the time frame.
>>154091765Conan 82’s budget adjusted for inflation is around 70 million and Neverending Story’s is 86 million.You can absolutely make a good-looking fantasy film for under 200 million if you properly plan things out.
>>154091916Yes it would have. He-Man is a children's franchise from a toy company. Who do you think the target audience is supposed to be?
>>154091324>It's shit like that that made me realize that maybe Gen X was the beginning of the irony disease after all and not millennials alone like I always thoughtYeah no fucking shit. We've been telling you guys this for years. Zoomers will only know culture through the detritus of the internet and media and think they know how things developed.
>>154086554It must've not be bad at all. There's no outrage
>>154091989Just because it’s a toy franchise doesn’t mean it would be able to sell tickets
>>154091793you say this like kevin smith ever made anything worth a fuck.
>>154091969Okay first of all Conan barely has fantasy elements that require any special effects. Also like 80% of that movie is just running around in cheap sets in the desert, mountains or snow. It’s very low fantasy. Secondly it’s very much a lightning in the bottle movie where it had strong but simplistic plot carried by Arnold’s charisma, look how bad Red Sonja and Conan the Destroyer were and looked in comparison despite trying to do bigger fantasy.Neverending story meanwhile relied heavily on contemporary setting to cut costs, a lot of that movie is just puppets and wandering around in dark, gloomy lighted soundstages. Plus it was a massive downgrade from the book when they cut the entire second half of it out which would have required way more budget.>You can absolutely make a good-looking fantasy film for under 200 million if you properly plan things out.You could make some type of a cheap fantasy movie, yes. But you can’t make fucking He-Man movie without it looking cheap. You basically would end up making a new Dolph Lundgren’s Canon Films version all over again. Ie vast majority of the movie can’t do anything fantastical, you shoot around all the actual cool stuff, it would heavily rely on taking place on Earth, vast majority of the cast would have to be normal looking humans, etc. Hell the Dolph movie had to have the director pay out of his own pocket to do the final climatic battle between Skeletor and He-Man because they ran out of money.
>>154088786You can't have male characters actually be cool anymore, that's supporting the patriarchal structure are society has been built on.
>>154090914I can't believe someone is invested on Adam/Teela. I always knew it was endgame, even when I was a little kid, but it was just there. Remember that the studio intended to make sequels so they were going to leave Adam/Teela for later
>>154086258This and doing the whole: "I'm just a regular loser guy in the real world that everyone thinks it's crazy" thing really took all the steam out of my sails. It's not hard to just play it straight and not race swap everyone and add in a bunch of Jewry
>>154092314>how bad Red Sonja and Conan the Destroyer werenope
>>154090134As far as I know, they stopped airing He-Man reruns on network television in the late 80s, in my area. I assume it might've been the same in other places in the US. They did have that New Adventures of He-Man cartoon around 1989/1990 but that came and went fast and didn't really get a second life in reruns.
>>154091324>It's shit like that that made me realize that maybe Gen X was the beginning of the irony disease after all and not millennials alone like I always thoughtI already started suspecting this long ago when people were attacking only Boomers and Millennials but sidestepping Gen X despite how a lot of people shaping things were Gen Xers
>>154090134I remember the 2000s series being around for a bit but the original I never saw being reran on any cable channels. Honestly I have no idea how they expected anyone outside of the 40s age range to know of the franchise. The best version of the franchise in a long time, the CG Netflix one, went under the radar since Netflix fucked it by releasing a whole other series the month before. Fucking insane.
>>154086258>>154084801I maintain the conviction that the marvel humor ruined any chances of mainstream success this movie would have had otherwise. It's a 10/10 burdened by bechdel test restrictions and irony poisoning, lowering it's overall rating to a 6/10 on a good day. The concept of making Adam into a modern day zoomer Don Quixote was brilliant but it's utterly tainted by the insistence of the writers to continue making a dumbass punching bag of him. Then that's all made worse by constantly sneering and shitting on all the character's names and the franchise's recognizable elements.
>>154084801Jared Leto is box office poison.
>>154091265Not that anon but I just recently learned it stands for Do You Even Lift.
>>154092204He's been destroying shit for decades with his bullshit, killed Karen Page, made Batman piss himself, God knows what other gay and stupid shit he's done to beloved characters
>>154093733>Jared Leto is box office poison.this, I wanted my campy myaa-ha-he-he-he
Skeletor is more like an edgy Lord Hater with a little swagger in this movie.
>>154084801Looked like marvel quipshit ashamed of itself and manatarms and teela are two shittty raceswaps.miss me with that shitGlad it's bombing hard
>>154093713>The concept of making Adam into a modern day zoomer Don Quixote was brilliantWhat do you mean with "brilliant"that shit has no place in MOTU
>>154088432No its shit>>154088516So nobody, got it
>>154092586>Sequels If they even shart out the she ra movie I'll be extremely surprised and it will make as much zero money as the last 3 failed she ra franchise misfires. The problem of being evil or cowardly in writing a script like this is that their corrective moral of "bee urself" and things setting into place around you doesn't happen in the movie, so the plateau for future entries is a weak main character and bad supporting cast. Along with failing to do what the performative troon #ally would want with the whole women r not prizes chud thing. Instead Adam still has act2 oneitis instead of viewing teela as a friend and valuing her as a person. "feelings" are still a joke and source of shame and ridicule instead of having the characters (all) express themselves honestly and gregariously as you'd have seen in the status quo of the source material they're so embarrassed of. It's not like this companionate affection between a man and woman thing hasn't been done before either. this exact thing, idris elba included, (in the same role and dynamic) was managed in fucking Pacific rim of all places. If they wanted to keep up the joke thing they could have had the framing of the archetypal "hero gets the girl" final moment, but then flip the script on the earlier joke "erhm like a brother" interaction and have honest, sharing He-Man and the masters of the universe 1983 Adam actually express non conditional admiration for her (and the rest of the team). Awkwardly shuffling off from man at arms in the 3rd "hehe feelings amirite" conversation could have similarly not been shit by meeting the gruff race swapped soldier where he's at with a clap on the shoulder and white guy nod. Because tonal point of the real world component, HR mediation language isn't how people actually connect or express themselves. They made the interpersonal relationships and message muddled. Lesser than a toy tie in series.
>>154090773>40years too late sequelshit nobody asked for
>>154094652Should have just left as it was in the cartoon. None of the shit in the movie, starting with the actors, belongs to a MOTU movie
>>154092204He made a few good movies.
>>154093733I don't understand how he's still getting work. I mean no one will buy tickets for a movie because Leto is in it. But there are people who will decide not to buy tickets for that same reason.
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>>154096064Leto has proven to not be a draw as a leading man but that doesn’t stop you from being a supporting actor
>>154086258>Didn't help that they teased the possibility of it being wokeWhy would that be a problem? He-man caring and being respectful of minority is 100% in-character. That's a stupid comment to make.
>>154096979He-Man cartoon was also incredibly preachy given it had those moral lessons at the end. Pretending the property was anti-woke or chud aligned is delusional
>>154096979>Why would that be a problem?because people started hating gay people again.
>>154096979Oversaturation of girl bosses tends to push people's preferences
The fact is unlike Transformers and TMNT, nobody gives a shit about MOTU since the 80's ended. There's nothing cool about it and the toys were always incredibly gay puffed up looking roided out faggots just like the incredibly gay and lame show was. The biggest cultural imprint MOTU ever had since the 80's was HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA.
>>154096979>>154097038Being a chill guy and liking people of all races isn't woke though.
>>154084801>>154086258They coulda tried re-imagining He-Man as a Conan-esque figure. But no... Also, why are all swordsman like the Conan remake and He-Man remake all clean as a whistle. At least Schwarzenegger looked like he was supposed to be there all dirtied up. He-Man literally just looks like a fuck-boy chad in the meme'est of ways.It's like the retards who make these movies have no idea what they're doing other than working on a soulless conveyor-belt.Then again, they fucking gutted LOTR lore-autists for wokie-austists instead and shot themselves in the fucking foot. So good riddance to the leftoid cancer once again.
>>154091171It looks like a bad porno prompt video off of Grok, KEK!
>>154098288There are many who disagree with you on that.
>>154098962Not really. All the big criticism of woke shit center around how white males are treated like shit and/or humiliated in media that's specifically meant to be for that same demographic. Only libtards intentionally miscategorize anything with minorities or women in it as woke
>>154099020Except the anti-woke crowd is always raging about women and non-white characters and call it woke
>>154099150No they are raging white male characters being treated like shit or humiliated in their own series. Try actually paying attention to nuance instead of looking at everything through a meme lens
>>154099325>”nuance”>from the anti-woke crowdLOLLMAOROTFLMAO
>>154099406Unironically, yes. Why do you think woke shit fails to attract audiences? Chuds and normies can smell it at this point.
>>154099441Hey remember when Black Panther was supposed to flop because everyone hates black people?How about when Barbie made over a billion dollars but you kept saying for six months that nobody wants to watch that and it was going to crash and burn because le woke?Remember when you were shilling the Northman as epic white movie and then nobody went to watch it?Still recall when you kept accusing the Super Mario Bros. movie of being woke because it had Princess Peach not be a complete damsel in distress in the trailer?Or how you kept saying Captain Marvel was guaranteed flop because durrr feminism bad but then it made 1.131 billion at the box office? What about when Wonder Woman became the most profitable movie of the year?
>>154099515Literally everything you listed is a part of a brand with a built in audience. Not a single original thing outside of Northman. You are admitting that nobody likes woke shit unless it's snuck into something that already has a huge audience You're also very stupid for thinking cm made that box office off the quality of the film and not infinity war hype>Wonder woman and Mario These aren't even woke. You scoffed at the nuance comment but then displayed a complete lack of it. Weird
>>154084801why did the Iron Man movie get lots of new viewers, but the He-Man movie can't seem to get an audience outside of the people that already knew it?https://deadline.com/2026/06/box-office-global-scary-movie-masters-of-the-universe-1236949181/Global cume on the $170M Amazon Studios feature production of Masters of the Universe was not good at $54.3M WW. Divided up that was $25M overseas from 86 territories and $29.3M in North America. What didn’t work here? The new generation didn’t show up for this film, but the old men who savored it as kids in the 1980s with 45-54 being the biggest demo at 29%. Kids under 12 repped 5%, and 13-17 was only 6% (and keep in mind it stars Red, White and Royal Blue hunk Nicholas Galitzine). Also kids under 12 gave He-Man a 56% must see right away — so don’t expect them to nudge Mom and Dad much. Unfortunately, Masters of the Universe is part of this bad trend of old 1980s properties, which are getting revived now, that aren’t working at the box office post Tron Ares and Running Man.
>>154099656Iron man came out at a time when you could see a movie with a white male protagonist and not have to worry about him being humiliated or playing second fiddle to side characters that check more diversity boxes. He-Man is coming out at a time when even normie guys are aware of the possibility of something being woke thus hurting it's chances for casual viewing
>>154099701What if it isn't woke?
>>154099701what does this have to do with children not watching it? why don't the teenage girls that liked red white royal blue and seeing hot muscle men see it? why are all the old guys not scared of he man being woke if they're watching it so much?
>>154099701>Iron man came out at a time when you could see a movie with a white male protagonist and not have to worry about him being humiliated or playing second fiddleYour brain is fried. I can guarantee you that normies never worry about that ever.
>>154099701>He-Man is coming out at a time when even normie guys are aware of the possibility of something being wokeHe)man was always woke. He-Man has always stood for oppressed people.
>>154088194There’s a vast difference between “a single ticket” and “it failed because it’s woke”
>>154099644>That’s not wokeDidn’t stop you from calling it woke at the time
>>154099644Sinners didn’t have a built-in audience and was very successful. And anti-woke crowd kept crying about that movie for months>B-b-but built in a-a-audiences…I thought if you went woke you went broke. Now you’re saying that isn’t true because magically there is an audience for it after all. And not just an audience but an audience that makes a billion dollars at the box office
>>154099701Tony Stark was literally turned into a comedy relief character making quips all the time. They completely changed the character and he fucks up purely for comedic purposes
>>154094688Difference is that Tom Cruise is still a big star and it's quality movie unlike He-Man 2026.
>>154099915Channers NPCs have nothing new to say anymore.Jeffrey Epstein died so there is no instruction and talking points for Moot to give to RapeApe.So they are stuck with the 2010s script they were given during Gamergate.Channers are the elite sockpuppets
>>154090773Americans loved their Let’s Bomb Iran propaganda slop do much that they’re now unironically defending the war against war that was started for no good reason
>>154100439It's implied they're fighting commies though, not iranians.
>>154100456That was the first one. The second one couldn’t be more obvious it’s Iran without naming the country. Mountainous region target, uranium enrichment, come the fuck on.
>>154084801He-Flop! Amazing Digital Flop!
>>154088032All Scary Movies are ass that’s the point
>>154094688>no one asked for>became one of the highest grossing movies of all time anyway>>154100776Scary Movie 3 is great, fuck you.
>>154099915Sinners was only profitable because it had a small budget. It didn't even break 400 million. People forgot about it until that tourette's guy shouted "nigger" at the BAFTAs, and forgot about it again after the Oscars.
>>154101589Cope harder
>>154101618With what? Some mediocre horror movie came and went? That happens all the time.
>>154094602They wanted MOTU to connect with a younger audience and they nearly succeeded in that effort with this version of Adam. His plight in the opening 20 minutes perfectly mirrors the life most late millenials and early zoomers had led for the past 8 years. If they had to set things on earth, they basically went about it in the best way they could. Think Topher Grace Venom within the context of the Raimi trilogy.
>>154101691>Here is this developed and self-contained Fantasy setting>But let's randomly make the main character someone from modern-day Earth despite any harm to the setting, because nobody can actually be allowed to immerse in a fictional world.This is garbage EVERY SINGLE TIME
>>154101781Worked with Thomas Covenant, at least.
>>154099848>Eternos constantly beset by ontologically evil outsider monsters defeated by the literal force of good and it's Avatar an 8ft tall Dolf Lungren >This somehow is a pro open borders eat the bug message>Sentiments like "Don't steal things" make Adam literally hitler through the modernist lens.
>>154101781Forty years of this shit, and it all started with He-man back in 1987. Maybe we finally closed the loop...
Is it just impossible to make a movie under $200 mil now?
>>154084801Impressive turnout for TADCWonder how the studios feel about Glitch fucking up their intricate theatrical scheduling jacuzzi sessions
>>154099885He-man's got middling popularity; he's semi-well known by old fucks (the 2000s cartoon didn't really make any waves and the 2020s was actively hated) but kids don't really know him.Of those old men, do you think a significant portion are woke or do you think the fondly remember calling shit gay and retarded without consequence?Of that number, do you think they'll waste their money on shit that might be a struggle session against themselves?Woke advertising is a silly thing to do because it alienates without drawing in an audience. Even if the woke elements are satire, they shouldn't be in the advertising.
>>154101667>whiteling who has been asleep since April 2025
>>154101589>It didn't even break 400 million.That puts it arounds Hoppers for movies from this year.I didn't know Hoppers was a thing, I'd never heard about it except on the list of movies-by-money-made.
>>154086554>I feel so bad for kidsNo you don't, you just need to be constantly performing outrage in place of a real hobby
>>154090410Not all of us are divorced.
>>154091324>and not millennials alone like I always thoughtyou are a fucking dumbass if you ever thought this. millennials weren't doing cutting edge comedy in the 90s.
>>154101781That's a part of already established He-Man lore, his mom and Evil-Lyn were astronauts from Earth .
