Norman Osborn fucked Gwen stacy
>>155714847Can confirm. It happened in the timeline that mattered and no matter what Marvel says, 616 after SW2015 is a different universe.
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>>155714847Trvke
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>>155714847That's actually mysterio he's fucking right there which makes norman Osborne gay
>>155715223>>155714989
>>155715223Get a load of this guy, he doesn't know that Gwen Stacy is Mysterio.
>>155714847>>155715177Cucked People Cuck Others
>>155714847Based
>>155715310>he doesn't know that Gwen Stacy is Mysterio.hey, that could work. It could explain why everyone thought she was dead for so long
>>155715310>Gwen Stacy was always MysterioKnow what, I'll do you one better.Mysterious was always Gwen Stacy.She faked her own death because she knew Spiderman was a hero and she didn't have the heart to be both a villain and his girlfriend.Marvel, I'm available to make more fucking retarded plotlines if you need me. I got a million of them for your artists and writers to shit out onto paper.
Ult Gwen-sterio was a direction I was willing to enjoy. But only if her orbs were more prominent. Fuck the "Oh it has to be androgynous because of le secret identity" shit.
>>155714847They retconned it. But someone could just retcon it back. Comics are stupid.
>>155718523>But someone could just retcon it back.very unlikely that they would, though
YOOOOO HOOOOOOOO OH NORMY-POO!
Does anyone remember when Norman slept with Harry's girlfriend and she ended up pregnant?
>>155714847Nope
No.
>>155718627>>155719511Nope. See >>155714989 and >>155715218Ha, made you look. You're gay, faggot.
>>155714847This incident may have been retconned, but he’s still technically Gobbed one of Peter’s exes.
>>155714847It was Mysterio actually
>>155720023>>155720070Nope. Gwen got the BGC. Canonically. As evidenced by >>155714989
>>155718627agreed besides right now are they busy shitting on MJ paul was only the beginning.. tony stark is next
The marvel bullpen needs a firehose.
>>155714847This shitty event was worth Harry dying again just for getting rid of Sin of the Past
>>155721092It always felt like Sins Past was so disliked that once it was done the writers and audience all quietly agreed to pretend it didn't happen.I'm not sure I was more surprised that it took so long to retcon it, or that they bothered to do so in the first place
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>>155714847The ONLY other thing Classic Gwen has been known for besides her death.
>>155714847I still don't get the motivation for this retcon, it's so stupid. It adds nothing.
>>155722742Because Peter stole our hearts as a lonely virgin, and so shall he remain . . . OR ELSE!
>>155722742The Gabriel and Sarah Stacy were supposed to to be Peter and Gwen's kids. The higher ups put a stop to it in the middle of run and Straczynski was left scrambling to find a dad. Norman was alive, Harry wasn't and the only other option was Flash or some random guy off screen. I don't know why he didn't abandon the whole story when the editors started interfering and just made it the Jackel fucking with Peter and the MJ that confirmed the story being a clone or another LMD or something.
>>155723405why did the higher ups stop them from being Peter and Gwen's kids but not stop them from being Gwen and Norman's kids what the hell kind of thinking is that
>>155714847They're in love
>>155723528It was because it was important to Joe Quesada that Peter wasn't depicted as having premarital sex.
>>155723528>They don't want Peter to have kids because it ages him but it's ok for Harry and Liz to have a kid even though Liz and Harry are the same age as Peter and therefore logic would dictate it ages everyone the same age as them the same amount because time is linear and flow at the same speed everywhere on earth.It's basically just middle aged men having mid life crises and not wanting Peter to grow or change. By the time Sin Past was being written OMD as already in the works. If Straczynski knew about it being a reset by then maybe he thought it didn't matter and it would get undone in a couple years. Straczynski didn't know the hard details of how OMD would end until close to release and he asked to have his name taken off the whole thing and Joe Quesada had to write the last issue himself.Sin Past and OMD are the two black stain on Straczynski run and Joe Quesada fingerprints are all over both.
>>155724303>>155714847
>>155724584Why do comics always do this. It's so hack.
>>155724866really bothers me when they have such long lines of text and the drawing has their mouth completely shut.
>>155714847Just like how Quesada and late 90s Marvel fucked their readers
>>155724933It's a what if comic they're jumping forward in time every 2 pages for the first half of the issue trying to condense the story into 1 issue. A page with a wall of text is to be expected. The mouth being closed is a little weird but it's probably easier to draw.
>>155719475I feel sorry for harry
>>155714847It was Mysterio, and Spider-Man 1000 confirmed it by showing Mysterio will always disguise as Gwen to get a good anal fucking from dudes
>>155714847Mysterio made Norman think he fucked Gwen Stacy, and watched Norman hump his bed as he thought he was fucking Gwen Stacy.
>>155718523>They retconned it.Unconvincingly.A TALKING COMPUTER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN PLEASE TRUST THE EVIL TALKING COMPUTEREveryone involved in that retcon should be locked in a cage with Gwenschizo
>>155723528It's a rare example of Quesada-era Marvel actually caring about protecting one of the company's most important IPs. They blocked it for the same reason Jim Shooter blocked Bill Mantlo's 1980s pitch for a story where Peter ends up with an illegitimate child; it's the kind of shock comic story the mainstream media could pick up in a slow news week and end up tainting the brand for years, potentially forever. But Quesada's Marvel being run the way it was, the first issue of the story had already been drawn by the time he made that decision, so someone else needed to be the dad.There was more going on here than Marvel's usual refusal to let Spider-Man be a parent, a "Spider-Man deadbeat dad" story could have damaged the character a lot.
>>155714847Not just fucked. Bred. Pumped her full of Goblinspawn in a canon Marvel comic.
>>155714847Someone post the art of spectacular norman doing it to spectacular gwen
>>155715218this might be the first time sloppa ever got a legit laugh from me
>>155715424Spidey and Jean are good friends in comics and animationMCU Jean literally cucked Peter tho
>>155724474Not only that, it drove people towards dc and manga, and said people never went back.Even DC treated their OMD as a bad joke after lee and johns undid new52 and purged DC off didioisms to restore what fans wanted back.
>>155714847>Norman Osborn fucked Gwen stacy>and it was hot and all normal people ship it>and they had twins who were better characters than Gwen was
>>155724474It's wild how little turn-over there has been, the same braintrust that thought a deal with the devil was a good idea is still hanging around as a dead-fish smell two decades later. And they all fucking know the moment they aren't the deciding factor anymore the defining mast of their careers ship is getting jost to bad comic book history.
>Think, Norman. Do you really think Gwen would sleep with you? It was ME, Norman! You were balls deep in MY pussy!
>>155721092No, it wasn’t. It gutted Harry as a character. “I KNOW YOULL COME BACK, DEAD DAD! SO I LL GIVE YOU SOME KIDS YOU CAN BE PROUD OF! AND MAKE YOU THINK YOU FUCKED GWEN! I STILL LOVE YOU THOUGH, SO ILL KILL SPIDER-MAN IN YOUR NAME!
>>155715223it's martian manhunter
>>155730068Martian Manhumper?
>>155730068living up to his name...
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>>155721349It’s very odd that OMD wasn’t used to just retcon it out, Queseda made it a point to keep sins past canon despite retconning out the marriage and destroying the character
>>155715424Peter and Jean are too good to cuck others, they just get approached by people who want them
