Why does Marvel hate Peter Parker, their biggest character, so much?
It's not about what's best for the character, the story or the art.It's about ego and the personalities at the top.
>>155728001They are currently in the part of the cycle where they don't want characters, they want brands.
>>155728001Punishment for the failure of Spider-Man 3. Executives still see Peter as based off Tobey
>>155728001They're just friends, stop being weird
>>155728263Why does Marvel hate Peter Parker, their biggest BRAND, so much?
>>155729473It's not so much hatred as sustained misunderstanding of his character and what made him popular.We are several generations removed from his original creators for the comics, and this current fanfiction has veered very fucking far from what worked and distinguished him from other capes with one foot in the real world.
They don’t know what to do if he’s not a teenager. I remember they tried to do one where he was an old man and ripped off Dark Knight Returns and it sucked outside of having Venom be a huge absorbing blob.
>>155729546That's the story where they have her proclaim her hatred for Spider-Man and indicate that she cheated on him with Flash Thompson or some blonde dude in the future. You can't make this shit up.
>>155729418IdcPeter Darker was a mistake of a character and he shouldn't exist.
>>155729630The guy that was going to be Spider-Man is more attractive than any of those guys.
>>155729486It is hate.
>>155729642I think there is a very strong appetite for spite in that office.
>>155729652They're just upset that the real Spider-Man is a bitch magnet who the mid-looking wives of all the editorial staff of Marvel would throw their families away just to fuck Spidey once.
>>155729618Wrong, its both parts of reign, kingpin had mary jane murdered with rad poisoning originally after discovering peter's identity to force him to work for him, and peter believing he killed her with radioactive cum since she was preggo.Reign 2 shows that he tried to change the events to a point his younger self commited suicide in a old timeline, mary jane learned of the truth and bonded with venom out of both sharing the same grief and pain til old peter healed both.Reign 2 kinda ended implying that now both peter and mary jane are still alive due to the timeline changes after peter murdered kingpin.Because both he and mary jane are soulmates
>>155729635Rowe looks like when Holland and Radcliffe are fused
>>155729742There should be a timeline where it’s Peter and Black Cat, no way she’s as cursed as MJ or Gwen
>>155729827If the office were sensible, they would exercise and trial multiple ongoings to see if there were audiences. Explore Peter in different circumstances and relationships, god knows when you give the audience an option from getting away from the mainline tirefire they choose it in droves.Have Peter/Felicia in a dystopic elseworld disagreeing on methods but caring for each-other. Have family/daughtman Peter with MJ. Have young Peter with Chat or whomever.If you desperately need a young frathouse Peter for the office let there be a forever BND line to die.
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>>155729785Rowe is more attractive than both of those guys and fits the Peter Parker mold better anyway imho.
>>155729785>>155729901MCU "Spider-Man" if it was good in any way whatsoever.
Maybe is time to accept Miles is a more interesting character right now
>>155729895It all ties back to humiliation rituals and the Great Replacement. What more impactful of a way to instill that message exists than to do it to the biggest Comic Character of all time, who just happens to be a White Dude?
>>155729913If by "interesting" you just mean a raceswap of Peter then ig but only because he leeches off of all of Peter's aspects while adding nothing of his own to the mix, like at least Miguel manages to do via his own unique asthetic, different setting, more brooding Batman-esque personality, and oh yeah, not the constant need to shit on the og just to validate himself like Peter Darker always seems to do.
>>155728001>delusional the threadnobody cares about marywhore you should know this already
>>155729827The office hates felicia too, why do you think she is bi now and has a gf?
>>155729913Character?, I thought his whole gimmick is having no defining foundation, characteristics or core personality so that he can be whatever the medium he's adopted into require.
No romance can be written well by this office or BND, if you have a ship you like you want it to wait until they are fucking gone and someone who can write chemistry and heart is in.
>>155729948Hush, PolishGwencuck.
>>155729934Can we stop with the bullshit please.noke of you gave a fuck about Miguel until spider verse. Nobody gave a fuck about his games. Nobody cared when that one cartoon with a nano suit peter which was supposedly going to feature Miguel replaced him with peter. How many threads did you guys make to discuss his comics compared to ultimate Spiderman when miles got introduced. I have no love for miles but goddamn this fake ass love for Miguel is super degrading for his character.
>>155729913Bendis whored Miles to Mephisto as a multiverse refugee. If this was acknowledged, Paul would be given a Mephisto retcon and Miles would become the role model of Paul.
>>155730003Miguel had more fans than Ben when they were both introduced in the 90s, fakefan sped. He still has more fans than Ben even to this day, because he's not just a riff on Peter aka the one true Spider-Man.
>>155730017Bendis only created Miles to have a Black Peter Parker. That's his only purpose is to check a box, except he still can't touch the level of actual independent Black characters like Black Panther, Luke Cage, Storm, or Blade so there's no fucking point to him since he'll always perpetually live in the shadow of the real Spider-Man, Peter Parker, while all those other genuine Black CHARACTERS get sidelined so that Archanigger can get more undeserved attention.
>>155730024Who the fuck said anything about ben. Lmfao. If that's the best thing Miguel can do then he truly lost. Miles truly mindbroke you guys. Hell, if anything it really is true what milesfags say on Reddit. Without miles nobody would've remembered Miguel ever again. I guess the character has its chance with those games but it just didn't cut it.
>>155730052Miguel literally was selling hot without Peter Darker what are you talking about? They brought back the entire 2099 line for however long it went solely because people missed Miguel, whereas no one gives a flying fuck about Peter Darker except maybe in whatever jew-infested fantasy you have cooked up in whatever is left inside that rotting turd in your head.
>>155730036>Luke CageIsn't he supposed to be the NYC mayor? If he is not the NYC mayor then NYC would be as good as gone wouldn't it? The rest weren't originated from New York. Those aside, Miles runs out of time to be accepted as an NYC black character because Marvel is relocating to California and there is no live action Miles Morales movie so yeah, he needs to go.
>>155730090Nobody cares about Peter Darker no matter where he is geographically though.
>>155730066>Miguel literally was selling hot without Peter Darker what are you talking about? They brought back the entire 2099 line for however long it went solely because people missed Miguelyou said it. in the ,90s. I don't live in that time. I love in the here and now and now a movie about miles wins Oscars while he gets his own games. You're too stupid to understand my point here. Why aren't you guys as loud and vocal as miles fanbase about Miguel unless it's to bring down miles. every time there's a new project black people or some wokefag bring up miles. in Every poll there's a milesfags bringing up out of nowhere even of he has no mention whatsoever. Yet I've never seen you guys mention Miguel in the same damn light ever.
>>155729911This cast would've been pure kino tbqh
>>155730118Racebaited Oscars means nothing especially when Token-Verse 2 couldn't even reach the Oscars despite all the zionist propagandist bullshit that was stuffed in it and Miguel already had successful games made about him anyway like Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time. But keep dickriding Peter Darker while Miguel still gets remembered more fondly, you'll only help to bring down current floundering capeshit sales even more in doing so, and soon we'll never have to see Peter Darker ever again because he along with the rest of modern day capeshit will be made to rest when they can't produce the same numbers as the past good shit that had the true Spider-Man, Peter Parker, as well as Miguel, plastered all over it.Lowest effort bait from another common retard I've seen btw.
>>155730134I'd prefer Hailee Steinfeld as MJ personally since she was wasted as Kate Bishop, but yeah aside from that, you're right.
>>155729913>>155730003>>155730052>>155730118HELLO SAAR
>>155730103I meant to type that Miles needed to be killed off in order for Marvel to stay in NYC but I agree.
>>155729901>>155729911Chalamet would have made a great Harry Osborn and Sabrina would have been a good Gwen Stacy
>>155730202The retard needs to be killed off in general since he serves no purpose other than riding the coattails of the actual Spider-Man's legacy.
>>155729957It’s the destiny of all bi people to break gay hearts and end up with the opposite sex anyway
>>155730219Also Alan Ritchson would've been a cooler and more comic accurate version of Venom we could've got rather than the neutered and faggoted Tom Hardy version.
>>155730248A lot of people hate the clone saga (long surpassed in shittiness by Civil War and One More Day) but the presence of Ben Riley at least forced Peter to grow up and be an actual adult, the reveal that Ben is the clone would have been fine or even better if they kept him on as Peter’s replacement
>>155730264True, no one's ever really gay. Just groomed, unfortunately.
>>155730153Shattered dimension can barely be called a Miguel game. The main protag was peter. Edge of time is not remembered fondly. That game got memoryholed last I checked. in these echo chambers the Oscars and public reception may not mean much to you lot. But to normies it does. And spider verse is extremely popular with normies. You're more concerned with that shitty dlc flopping than you are advocating for a Miguel solo game which is why the next one is focused on miles. you guys do a terrible job supporting your favourite characters. And who are you kidding. Psycho Miguel and I'm not a fan of the revisionism btw is more popular now than the classic one. All thanks to the spider verse. And who cares about comic sales and comics in general at this point.to marvel these are glorified platforms to test audience reception. You think anyone was reading bendis slop when he wrote sittin on a tree?. Yet here we are. You know what, sometimes I think God is literally against you guys which is why things work out in miles favor no matter the odds. Maybe it's time to repent for real.
>>155730293Being gay is a choice and in the current socioeconomic conditions it’s objectively the correct choice
>>155730292This basically, I like to pretend that Peter and MJ have long happily moved out of New York and been married and raising a cute big family off the grid near the coast somewhere, and that Ben has just been Peter's full time replacement ever since. And all we've been "seeing" ever since is just a canonical weird fever dream that maybe Deadpool accidentally stumbled upon one time while searching through the memories of one of the cucked writers in the editor's office.
>>155730294YES SAAR MILES BEEBEESI IS VADY TASTEEE SE BA SAAR
>>155730328......if you're a child molester.
>>155730264Not in comics. In the comics, bisexuality is just being gay while not erasing the fact the character used to date the opposite sex. The destiny of comic bisexuals is to remind the reader as frequently as possible that they're into the same sex, and make it their entire personality, so they can be trotted out for Pride Month.
>>155729926The safest thing you s Miles ha yet to do anything f better than Peter. I can’t even say he’s done a better cartoon, because that’s putting miles up a giant spectacular Spider-Man and that cartoon is better than the spiderverse movies. Does it have better animation no but the story ans characters are better. You could put spectacular Spider-Man Peter ans miles next to each other and fair they can be a draw. Once you compare the villains and supporting cast though that easily goes to Spectacular Spider-Man. Doctor octopus alone beats his female counterpoint and Kingpin is left in the dust next to Tombstone. I don’t even need to mention how perfect the Green Goblin is.
>>155730383I mean Spider-Man was an actual hero in Spectacular vs Peter Darker who's selfishly willing to uproot the entire multiversal stability just to prioritize one version of his dad's life over every other version to exist in the Infinite Multiverse, all because of the fact that Peter Darker himself screwed up hard with Spot.
>>155730294>That game got memoryholed last I checked.Actually, no people still remember edge of time, not only because of the imagery of miguel carrying the broken body of peter but also this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYEO6n8-u7o It's a good scene that contrast Miguel's and Peter's spider-man and personalities. Now why doesn't anybody talk about miguel in this board? because comic threads last little to nothing unless they shit on modern issues or shitty characters (Miles).
>>155729618>>155729652They have actual cuck fetishists in the writer's room. In one comic, Mary Jane was referred to as the "scarlet woman" which is lingo for an unfaithful woman. Her whole relationship with Paul and how she treated Peter stinks of someone with a cruel cheating fetish.
>>155730334I always felt that Janine was a mistake, I get they wanted to establish Ben with a life of his own but it seemed stupid to lock you’re replacement spider to a love interest when you’re trying to get rid of the old one for reaching the end to his natural character arc with one love interest
>>155730383>>155730422The issue with spider-verse 2 is that, it's trying to make everyone worse to one up Miles. Every spider-man version has to agree that letting a kid loose his parent is okay because "it's for the betterment of everyones else timeline"
>>155731356>Every spider-man version has to agree that letting a kid loose his parent is okay because "it's for the betterment of everyones else timeline"Imagine if Miguel tried to recruit Edge of Time Peter.https://youtu.be/EYEO6n8-u7o>What's important is not standing by and allowing someone to suffer or die because you do nothing! If you don't get that, then you don't get the first thing about being Spider-Man!
>>155728001It's about removing all the work Jews did in comic for the last 100 years. and replacing it with negro and women workd.
>>155731434Do not try to imply that atsv Miguel is the same as Comic Miguel. They're different because in the case of edge of time.>Comic Miguel doesn't want to save Mary Jane because the timeline is collapsing and they're running out of time but realizes that this is important to Peter and decides to do it.>Atsv Miguel wants a kid to accept his father has to die or everyone else dies including his family.Also i'm calling eot Miguel, comic Miguel because the game is writen by Peter David (Miguel's creator)
>>155729911>This looks like a poster for a Porn parody. There was a novelty to Highschool Peter when Homecoming came out but between the last 3 tv shows being Highschool focused and the MCU peter being a teen, I'm glad the next two movie took place on summer break or didn't focus on Highschool life. Also advocating for Mark Hamill to be Doc Ock and not the HobGoblin. What's wrong with you?
You can whine about Miles all you want, hell, he could permanently get killed off tomorrowNone of that will fix Peter, he will remain a whipped cuck who can't hold a job till the end of time
>>155729911Love Ella Purnell. But this cast is not great. Fuck Mark Hammil.
>>155729618I don't recall MJ cheating on Peter in Reign.
>>155729473They don't but they are trying to monetize and grow the brand of Spider-man as much as possible by turning every supporting character into a brand of it's own.
>>155731667That's what I'm saying, EoT Peter would fucking wreck AtSV Miguel, if not physically then psychologically and philosophically. EoT Miggy is cool because he actually listened to Peter.
>>155732302Mary Jane was a Brand before OMD
>>155732302And how's that working out outside of Venom and Black Cat?
>>155728001Based Miles, fuck that bitch ass nigga Peter
>>155729948Hi Dan, I was wondering when you'd show up.
>>155728001Miles from the start should have had Miles/Prowler-42's origin story and with love interests being Lady Mastermind or Sun Girl at least but nooo the writers at the top have to act like malicious imbaciles obsessed with believing that Miles will replace Peter Parker in popularity and likeability.
>>155728001Corporations only profit when they lose money. If you can't reliably short your stock, your pissing in the wind.
>>155728001Miles is so lucky
