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Theme related questions:

>How would new Masters learn to look after women? Is it something that their fathers teach them? Or is it hands on as they grow up with slave girls/their sisters?
>What laws (if any) exist to prevent excessively cruel treatment of collared women? do they also apply to free women?
>What's the type of woman your society aims to create? (Ara ara MILFs, Horny cum-brained women, etc.)
>Describe what's life like for a good obedient woman, is it a life of pure carnal pleasures or something else entirely?

Classic world Building questions:

>How should patriarchy be enforced? By laws? By force? By social pressure? Or something else?
>How should women see themselves when they look in the mirror? Describe the ideal self-image of a woman under patriarchy.

For men:
>What are the cruelest things you want to do to the weaker sex? How would you punish a troublesome female? What challenges would you set for an obedient ancilla?
>What are the kindest things you want to do to your pets? How would you express affection to a loyal bitch at your heels?
>How should a Father treat his daughters, wives and other women in his personal life?

For women:
>How do you see yourself serving the patriarchy? Would you be a chaste wife or a slutty paramour? Or maybe just slave or scullery maid?
>What is the most extreme act of female subjugation you can think of? Will you challenge yourself to offer it willingly, or do you want a man to inflict it on you?
>Would you want to be born into it or have a man train you into his ideal slut?

World building:
>What's the ideal state of gender norms(Pushed back to old ways or Neo-patriarchy)?
>Describe how women feel about their situation. Do they have any conflicted feelings which the patriarchy might play with?
>Are the people in your world biologically different from IRL humans? If so, how?
>What is the highest aspiration for a woman in your world? What sort of life can the best women live?

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More world building questions:

Work:
>Are women allowed to work outside the home or are they kept at home?
>What sort of work is considered menial and feminine enough to be appropriate for women?
>What are the dress codes for women at work, at home, etc?
>should sexual favors be explicitly written into women's job descriptions, or is it just an unspoken understanding?

Crime and Punishment:
>How are women view legally (like pets, slaves, children etc)?
>Do men bare any legal culpability for the behavior of their women?
>Does the legal system use corporal punishment on women?
>What are women's prisons like?

Sports:
>What sort of sports are women allowed to participate in?
>Are women's leagues sexualized parodies of the games men play?
>Are there televised sports that are outright fetish play, like ponygirl races?
>What is cheerleading like?

Disclaimer:
This thread is for fetishizing traditional patriarchy where it's biological men being Doms and biological Women as Subs
Trans/Femboy posts belong over in that thread:>>10008620
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Most based thread on the forums.

Your daily reminder that women were born to be slaves of men, and anything less is unnatural and unerotic.
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I like the firm but gentle hand approach, treating them more as beloved pets. Degradation is a turn off for me, while I would look down on them, it's more from a place of affection the power. I believe positive reinforcement is more effective then negative. While there wouldn't be no punishments they won't be so severe that I feel bad. More so relinquishing privileges, not letting her orgasm, or not letting her sleep in the bed with the me and the rest of her sisters. Stuff that will make her think about her actions then just instilling fear. I don't want them to fear me, I want them to grow and be the best girls they can be.
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>not letting her sleep in the bed with the me and the rest of her sisters
How many do you plan on having in your bed? Would be crazy warm with all that body heat

>I want them to grow and be the best girls they can be.
Nice, and patriarchal
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>>10031328
Everyone loves sweaty, raw and animal mating sex!
Breed your women like the bitches they are!
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>>10031325
My ideal place to live is somewhere cold, so I don't see a huge issue there. A California king bed should give more then enough space. I don't think I could handle more then three or four anyway. Anymore after that sounds like more work then it's worth, not the mention our kids. Three or four constantly horny girls looking to jump my bones constantly already sounds like enough trouble.
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Sorry about taking so long to post the first 10.
4Chan's quick reply and "post a reply" is giving me issues!
Anyone know a fix?
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> What's the type of woman your society aims to create? (Ara ara MILFs, Horny cum-brained women, etc.)
Venus MILF body, always slightly aroused, easy, loyal, total submissive, has totally internalized the patriarchy, and is raising our sons and daughters along strict traditional lines

basically a thicc stepford 'domestic goddess' who's always dtf. Her tits are your hand-warmers, her mouth is praising you, thanking you or sucking you off, and her holes are always open to you.
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I just want a woman I can trust who isn't loyal to another one or thing, who will be a good obedient and dutiful wife to me without complaint. She understands the way of things.
Unfortunately, she at present only exists in so small a quantity that I shall never find her.
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>What are the cruelest things you want to do to the weaker sex?

Female circumcision, that is the total excision of the clitoris. It might be seen as cruel to some but in the eyes of the patriarchy its for a woman's own good. It helps keep her from unecessary distractions and help her to understand that selfish pleasures like that are not something suited for a woman.

Sexual pleasure is a man's right, and it ends there. She should be pleased to know that she has given pleasure, not received.
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>>10031532
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by intrigue: business opportunities, gossip, fishing out which girl is worthy to marry their master's son, so on so forth.
>What are the kindest things you want to do to your pets?
To sleep in your bed and give her honourable titles and the best care in your house. Make her your acknowledged love and dearest companion.
>How should a Father treat his daughters, wives and other women in his personal life?
He should be strict with them all and raise/train them to the ways of a woman. Good behaviour is praised and exalted, bad behaviour punished by verbal refutations (tongue lashing) and more serious acts by corporal punishment, spanking or even a swift hard slap, for a girl, to the face. Women who are not his daughters or wife(s) are treated with respect if belonging to another man; in the rare case that one is not then they may be regarded dismally. Mistresses/whores are up to him.
>What's the ideal state of gender norms(Pushed back to old ways or Neo-patriarchy)?
Feudal style. Neo-patriarchy? What's that supposed to be?
>Describe how women feel about their situation.
They are entirely content with being property and inferior, they see it for what it is: the natural order. They regard any who don't as vagabonds akin to thieves who have/are swindling their master's out of the goodness of their hearts. Best keep them away from your pure daughters or they might infect them with their madness and satanic practises!
Since all women are more emotional than men, and emotions matter most to them, they shall have their own little rivalries and such, acting up and causing them to receive a nice spanking to bring them back to their senses.
Think court intrigue.
>Are the people in your world biologically different from IRL humans?
The women are bigger in all the right areas but are also more docile and pleasant on account of generations of selective breeding for those traits. The men are a bigger too and not just in that way.
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One fantasy I hold is that women have been bred to subsist off of sperm alone, they cannot eat regular normal food. Perhaps instead of calling food food, a singular expression, women instead eat girlslop [yes, it is me, that anon, again if any of you are wondering], what sperm is called when served to women in their bowls. Though they will be able to eat normal food (any thoughts on what to call that? Manfeast?) until they reach the midpoint of their puberty. Men will have course developed bigger balls in order to feed women.
Perhaps also this might be the spawning point of a cultural divide among women? Like some women who decide to eat their girlslop from a bowl, ornament it, think this the most honourable and therefore womanly way of showing their gratitude to their man, while others consider it nothing but vanity on their part and take it from the source? I don't know, thoughts?
Women would also be largely illiterate. Mothers will actually rebuke their daughters and female charges for trying to usurp mansright (as I consider calling it).
>What is the highest aspiration for a woman in your world?
The highest honour would be to be a man's seneschal (majordomo) and his most trusted woman, in charge of the daily minutiae of the household and upholding order while the patriarch is away and his sons entertaining themselves with manly affairs, or whatever they are doing. The highest honour a man can bestow is the privilege of leaving the house at will as such a freedom must be earnt and truly respected.
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[cont. me again, Anon here]
I can't help but come back to altering the language to the point that certain things become indissolubly tied to men and women. I've mentioned some examples before, food for women becomes girlslop, names become manes, etc. Do any of you anons agree with me? Any suggestions of your own to add?
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It would be customary for a girl growing up to be subordinate to her brother in order to better instill patriarchal values in both the son and daughter.

This goes into place the moment the brother can speak coherent sentences. Even if his older sister is a teenager she would have to listen to her brother for whatever (reasonable) orders he might have for her. He'll probably start out just having her get him food, clean his room, make his bed etc, but as he gets older he would start making more decisions for her. When he gets to be seven or eight she would have to come to him and get permission for the clothes she wanted to wear that day. Permission to leave the house to see her friends, etc. If she gets a job, he'll handle her money and decide what she can spend it on.

He'll learn from a young age how to handle and keep track of a female with his sister.

The same would go for an older brother kid sister situation. Once she's old enough she'll start taking orders, her life will be rigidly monitored by her brother. He'll choose how to dress her, who she's allowed to hang out with. She'll need his blessing for romantic prospects etc.
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>>Describe what's life like for a good obedient woman, is it a life of pure carnal pleasures or something else entirely?
Typically a higher ranked woman sees less and less work as a hardline sex slave.
A model submissive woman may quite happily and eagerly submit, but they've proven themselves worth more then just sex work, and get certain points of station, reproductive permissions, and allowances of situational authority other, lower ranked women won't.

>The model obedient woman gets to look forward to holding one of the few serious positions a woman can hold in society, above even being a 'token worker' (a woman dressing up and going along with a work force as a mascot), and one of the few that gives significant pay/benefits potentially.
>She's a teacher. Not a hardline subject one, but one who introduces younger girls to growing up a woman.
>Her full breasts rest on her distended belly. She's pregnant, with triplets. Though her slow gait isn't fast enough to catch many of the younger children, and the great weight and mass is burdensome and stressful, the waddling sway and restricted physicality is more natural to her, more a woman's motion, then a normal walking step, endemic to men. She has not spent more then a month without a child in her since her late teens, and the sheer weight and pressure from her heavy belly upon her body, as well as her sensitive and full breasts, give her a sense of serenity few do not envy.
>She has two women to aid her, younger and beneath her. Carrying her things, fetching the odd errant child, massaging her body, milking her swelling breasts, bringing her food, taking care of her, and whatever else she has the whim for.
>She knows they are not truly hers, but the authority, though situational, she has over these other women is an odd treat.
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>>10031785
>proven themselves worth more then just sex work, and get certain points of station, reproductive permissions
Honestly I love the idea that pregnancy and breeding is the one of the ultimate life goals for women.
Regardless if she's to give her master a male heir or if her daddy(master) knows she'll give him good slave daughters.
Because sure every woman is a warm fuck hole but only the best are to be mothers or breeders.
And that whole aspect of women glorifying pregnancy(cause it's a privilege not a right) is just the prefect balance of benevolent sexism and overbearing male control

>not spent more then a month without a child in her since her late teens, and the sheer weight and pressure from her heavy belly upon her body
What do you think about medals/awards for women giving birth? Like medals for having baby boys/daughters along with tattoos on her belly.
Kind of like how men pride themselves for bravery in battle/advancements in science while women focus on being good mothers for the sext generation.

>>10031697
>learn from a young age how to handle and keep track of a female
unironically the most underrated part of patriarchy is just how much responsibility men have as fathers, husbands and masters.
Women simply need to accept the collar while men literally run the world.
So teaching boys the skills and expectations of their role early on is perfect!.

>>10031610
>Do any of you anons agree with me? Any suggestions of your own to add?
If your not into "unregulated copulation" then I'm assuming that most breeding and raising of slave girls is done by a man and his wives?
Like there's no farm or slave girl mill type operations, and the whole designer gene mod stuff is done via family eugenics.

>significant selective breeding
I think you should also change personalities/behaviors.
Make women more naturally submissive or create that perfect Ara Ara woman for the role of seneschal
A lot of human personality is based on genetics.
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>What do you think about medals/awards for women giving birth? Like medals for having baby boys/daughters along with tattoos on her belly.
Medals are perhaps too strong a thing. She hasn't solved an energy crisis, she's just had a bunch of kids.
Her body itself is her medal, her award or her show of pride. The natural distention of her belly, the comfortably demure waddling gait of a burdened woman, the turgid soreness of her bloated breasts, which ache at the slightest motion. The slight pudge across her hips and legs, contrasting with the slenderness of her arms and neck, showing their lack of usage next to her lower body. Even the panting breath and the flushed face and submissive eyes that tell you she knows her body is too big for her to handle by her lone efforts. All are proof enough of a life lived in dutiful womanhood, despite the fatigue and the stress accumulating, they still do their womanly duty.
Hence why such women are most distinctly valuable. Not only as progenitors and teachers of the young, and as the most potent form of mother figure, but they perform to a duty, a standard, regardless of physical or mental stress, which elevates them to a position deserving more respect then the average woman.
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> What laws (if any) exist to prevent excessively cruel treatment of collared women? do they also apply to free women?
First, there are no free woman. Second, biometric collars report their woman's health to a federal database. Third, a part of master's legal responsibilities are periodic check ups and inspections of slaves. Fourth, Masters can also report other Masters they suspect of severe abuse (as can slaves, if they have proof).

Abuse in this context is restricted to pointless sadism, murder or other atrocities committed by true psychopaths.

Violence or coercion is a natural part of breaking or punishment, and isn't illegal per say. Neither is possessive, dominant and controlling behavior of masters (both parties wouldn't be satisfied with anything less). But he still has obligations. If he can't, he's not a man, but a dog.
> Describe what's life like for a good obedient woman, is it a life of pure carnal pleasures or something else entirely?
Depends on their position, but the life of an average domestic slave would go something like this:
> Wake up early
> Master is still asleep, bed is soaked with both of your juices
> You feel your pregnant belly and lactating tits
> Your body smells of over-ripe fruit. It's fertile, organic, and serene. Like a bountiful river valley.
> You prepare breakfast for the family
> Your 7 kids come down the stairs and hungrily gobble down their protein rich meal.
> They are all a little delinquent, but their affection for you is deep and genuine.
> Their misbehaviors cease when Master appears, suit and tie.
> You see them off to their gender-segregated schools.
> As you are washing up, he grabs you from behind and snarls.
> He takes you like an animal, you end up on the ground beneath his mating press, orgasming multiple times.
> He leaves you there, his seed leaking out of your cunt.
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> By midday, you pick yourself up, holding his seed in.
> You feel your fecund body up, it's transformation from your young teenage self into this mature form a result of His influence over you
> You have another orgasm as you play with yourself.
> Satiated, you continue your duties.
> As you maintain the home, you hear the news over the television.
> Another country conquered by the patriarchy, their queen in chains.
> You play with yourself as you watch them being 'processed' live, informed of their new lives.
> Another arrogant bitch put back in her place by the patriarchy
> Soon she'll have everything taken from her, an in return she'll receive her true purpose as a woman, to submit.
> She'll become a horny willing slave with no escape.
> Just like you.
> You orgasm again.
> As you finish up, the kids return home.
> The boys are already starting to treat their sisters like a master would.
> And the girls are all going along with it, just as they should.
> You know they'll make good masters and slaves both.
> You tuck them into bed, as they sleep soundly.
> Maternal instincts kick in, this is your purpose in life, this is how it's meant to be
> Life is good
> Master returns home
> He's been working hard
> He wants to play hard
> You think you're ready for it
> But you're not
> And you wouldn't have it any other way
> He takes you again, and you experience ego death as he dominates you
> As you both wander off to sleep, you say to yourself:
> "And to think, some women wanted to give this up for voting rights..."
> You effortlessly fall asleep
> Just one of many slaves of the patriarchy
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>>10031889
>Her body itself is her medal, her award or her show of pride
That's one of the biggest changes about patriarchy is the idea of female beauty is focused more on motherhood/fertility.
Like before she's had her first child men expect a /fit/ type body not for something silly like women's liberation.
But entirely because after that you watch how multiple pregnancies transform women into Venus mommies.
Even something like a pudgy belly is something that adds to a woman's beauty, she's just a breeder waiting to get knocked up again.

>she knows her body is too big for her to handle by her lone efforts
Knowing that being pregnant makes things more difficult for women is kind of the reason why I think polygamy should be a thing.
Your wives rotate on who's having your next kid so they can take care of each other, alternatively maids are also an option.
Or you have your older daughters help their mother.

>>10032174
>Depends on their position, but the life of an average domestic slave
So in your world would there be women trained to be that perfect sex kitten/are complete coomers?

>see them off to their gender-segregated schools.
For me I never liked the idea of women being highly educated
Being a breeding bitch or sex toy isn't something that requires higher education and if she can read a cook book that's already fine.
Honestly I'd prefer it that most of a daughter's learning is done from living at home with the harem and learning how to be a good wife.
Maybe upper classes might have finishing schools for stuff like art, music and etiquette but that's the exception not the rule.

Side question:
How do you anons address modesty/women's clothes? is it the lewd collar only or something that actually covers something?
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>>10032288
> So in your world would there be women trained to be that perfect sex kitten/are complete coomers?
All women are raised and trained as fem-coomers. Female sexuality is open and encourage. Young teenage girls masturbate together while watching cringey soap operas (with subtle patriarchal messaging inserted into it), and older women's 'book clubs' are largely excuses to share lewd stories and experiences, and pleasure themselves of course. It's all part of the process of brainwashing, make them more pliable and receptive of patriarchal propaganda.

Women who exist only to get fucked (and nothing else) do exist, but they're not common. It's a specialist role.
> For me I never liked the idea of women being highly educated
Agree to disagree. The schooling is based on what they're going to be doing, but there's always knowledge that can be used. To be a good cook, good mother, supporter and comforter of your man, etc.

Relying on intellectual dependency as a method of control is counter-productive. They become less useful, and there are better levers you can use to dominate. Their natural feminine need to be submissive, for one.
> How do you anons address modesty/women's clothes? is it the lewd collar only or something that actually covers something?
Up to master, but women being completely nude except collar is fairly common in temperate zones. They are sex objects, so it's not seen as strange. But as in all societies, fashion is in a constant flux, and women want to stay current. It oscillates between modesty/purity and adventurous/lascivious depending on social mood or trends.
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>>10031832
Yeah I don't like industrialising slavery or imagining some system of enslavement upheld by the state.
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>people start talking about removing womens clitoris and teeth

Well, i guess it's back to the slavery thread for me. Things have gotten a bit too islamic for my tastes lol.
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>All women are raised and trained as fem-coomers. Female sexuality is open and encourage
I like that it's not just the designated fuck toys that are like that but it's just a "normal" thing for women to be cum brains.
The dutiful wives that work hard so master comes home to a relaxed evening but also she's thinking about all the lewd things he'll do to her and the rest of the harem!
For me I love that women know their place to serve men but they enjoy every second of it from wholesome family/harem life to fucking like animals!

>cringey soap operas... older women's 'book clubs'
On that topic I think media for women is basically all "porn with a plot" type stuff and heavy on the propaganda aspect too.
Women's entertainment is focusing on how the lack of freedom/responsibility means that they can be openly sexual with their master.
And raw sex in general should be seen as a normal recreational activity, even encouraged that they go at it like bunnies!

>Women who exist only to get fucked (and nothing else) do exist
On controversial the fuck toy question:
Is it a privately owned bitch (every man's harem has one), Public use whore or like clubs owning some toys for it's members?

>>10032477
Outside of society, religion and law maintaining paternalism everything else should be in the hands of individual masters.
99% of women are raised from loving families with all the breeding done by virile fathers and their harem of wives.
The cold industrialized settings leads to a view of women as objects and not people who you love/protect.

>>10032529
FGM kind of defeats the purpose of having nympho slaves for me.
You want them to love their slavery not just obey it cause of the whip hand.
Better that every night in bed is fun for everyone, but that's just me personally
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>>10032575
I would hate sharing women, what is mine is mine and mine alone. I will never understand cuckoldry or free-use fantasies. How can you enjoy a woman when countless men have done so before and you can never really call her yours?
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>>10032174
>Masters can also report other Masters they suspect of severe abuse (as can slaves, if they have proof).
Such things already had precedent. Back in the time of actual slavery, while slaves didn't have rights, there were actually laws on what you could or couldn't do to, or treat slaves with. There were actually a couple of cases in New England where someone went to jail for life because they kept slaves in conditions anyone would find deplorable.
>Honestly I'd prefer it that most of a daughter's learning is done from living at home with the harem and learning how to be a good wife.
That's not the purpose of girls schools. After all, they're women, you can't just expect them to sit down and study just as hard, or as in depth, as boys.
Girls 'schools' have only the most basic proper education, just enough so they can get by without being a drag on their master, and are mostly chances for young women to get to socialize, find their place in male and female hierarchy and society, prepare for a finishing school if they wish, aspire to a role in life if they wish, and begin to get exposed to the full extent of patriarchal society.
They're purely vocational, with very few truly 'compulsory' classes, most of which are merely cases of social pressure to go along.
A homeschooled woman could learn all this, but the convenience of a managed social organization of educational professionals, coupled with the large social circles and friend groups possible also makes it enticing.
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>>10032529
FGM/teeth removal fag is a troll, ignore them
>>10032575
> I like that it's not just the designated fuck toys that are like that but it's just a "normal" thing for women to be cum brains.
It starts from the earliest age. When they reach sexual maturity, their schooling will adopt a more and more lewd atmosphere. Their teachers will punish students in more sexualized manners. Eventually, students end up having entire classes, where they do nothing but masturbate openly with toys, teacher helping the students who need help, while patriarchal propaganda is plays endlessly on the projector and through desk speakers. The theory being that being in a state of high arousal makes them more suggestible, allowing patriarchal brainwashing to worm its way deep into their subconscious mind and soul.

By the time they reach 'graduation', their entire personality has been set in stone. Even if they wanted to escape, their identity and psychology is fixed as a fem-coomer slave. There's no going back. Even if you were to 'free' them by force, their bodily urges and subconscious mind would always bring them back right where they belong: wrapped around their master's cock.
> Is it a privately owned bitch (every man's harem has one), Public use whore or like clubs owning some toys for it's members?
Depends on the Master, same as harem size. If a master wants an exclusive fuck-toy, he'll buy one and add it to the 'family'. Specialist schools raise girls into specific roles according to the demands of the patriarchy, economic, cultural or sexual.

But not all Masters have the same social status or harem size. For the less well off Masters, they can 'rent' a fucktoy from a plantation company (a slave management business). While the girls aren't exactly mistreated at plantations, it lacks the personal and familial touch of a true harem (Plantation slaves also aren't usually allowed to be mothers). So often girls will try and seduce a renting master into buying them outright.
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>>10032575
>Girls 'schools' have only the most basic proper education
>mostly chances for young women to get to socialize
This idea for women's education is one I like a lot more, it's actually practical for a woman's future
Teaching them them they social skills they need to attract a master and to get along with his other women
The friend group aspect is also nice, as a slave wives' life obviously isn't about being stuck at home 24/7
Girl's spa days, cookout/picnics and other social events all the ground work for that is laid in school

>>10032998
>adopt a more and more lewd atmosphere. Their teachers will punish students in more sexualized manners
Can't stress enough how important sexual training is for slave women regardless of where she ends up after her dad sells her.
After all being a fuck toy for master is a big part of a woman's duties!

>always bring them back right where they belong: wrapped around their master's cock
Having that drilled into her mind also open up other lewd ideas.
Like imagine having an action "heroine" trying to liberate slave women from their "evil" masters.
Only to have then raise the alarm or even delivering her tied up to master so she get raped and mind broken

>wants an exclusive fuck-toy, he'll buy one
>'rent' a fucktoy from a plantation company
Like this solution the best it, ensures that all men can have access to specialized fuck toy girls.
And satisfies men who like the public use/prostitute aspect or exclusively owning a sex pet.
Every one wins!

>Plantation slaves also aren't usually allowed to be mothers
Weird considering that letting the get pregnant means you get more slave girls once they grow up.
Or you have more women to sell, but I suppose most of the market is taken up by dads selling their daughters.
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>>10033036
First part of reply was for >>10032683

>>10032621
>How can you enjoy a woman when countless men have done so before and you can never really call her yours?
It complements the idea of a completely lewd society that sees sex as just an every day activity.
So it's just convenient to have slave women that you can rent/use for a quick fuck to get your rocks off.

>I will never understand cuckoldry or free-use fantasies
Free use slaves would have their wombs controlled so that if they get pregnant they only ever have daughters.
That way there's not "my slave's son" type scenarios for institutions/men that own free-use or slave prostitutes.
With that in mind I don't really see raising another man's bastard daughter as cuckoldry in a patriarchal slavery setting.
Think of it like Raphtalia from rise of the shield hero, except your actually going all the way with her.
You get that father-daughter type love and incest without any of the worries about inbreeding.

But if your not into that you could always just buy your own fuck toy for your self!
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>bump!
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Anyone else watched Wheel of Time and thought it'd be a super fit for Aesedai to be in 24/7 chastity enforced by their warders? The horny helps with channeling, or so the amelyn seat says.
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>>10033874
>Aesedai to be in 24/7 chastity enforced by their warders? The horny helps with channeling, or so the amelyn seat says
Sounds like a hentai plot anon, women being powerful mages but all their magic depends on being horny/semen.
Eventually turning women into cum dumps or something?
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>>10033874

It's Aes Sedai and yes, the suppression of masculine power by a corrupt matriarchy, with a guerilla uprising overthrowing them by collaring female witches was in the last thread.

I think the real thrill would just be completely placing their magic abilities under the controll of men, forced to fight their own sisters in a victorious conquest, while having their outfits redesigned to be preposterously lewd to boot.

I think chastity belts are good for potentially preventing pregnancy if their handlers cared about that, for instance in a scenario where being impregnated deletes their magic abilities, (such as by transferring them to a slave offspring)

Personally, as a woman orgasm or sex denial doesn't really do anything for me, i feel like my sex drive is more like something that respons to stimulation, but in the absence of control or stimulation, it's passive, not something that torments me... might be a biological difference. Denial of affection or attention though definitely has a crushing impact.
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>>10034115
>preventing pregnancy if their handlers cared about that, for instance in a scenario where being impregnated deletes their magic abilities, (such as by transferring them to a slave offspring)
Makes sense if you planning on using her in the field but at the same time a newly enslaved mage with questionable loyalty might be better off as a breeder.
Like if she's got powers but isn't really broken yet, you could just rape her pregnant and raise her daughters as battle mages.
Or there's the eugenics aspect to it you keep the strongest mages for breeding so they produce more daughters with a similar power level.

>as a woman orgasm or sex denial doesn't really do anything for me
Then what's your take on the opposite, being turned into a nymphomaniac coomer?
Last thread it was a popular idea of using a high sex drive as a means to control women.
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>>10033874
>Wheel of Time
Is this an old anime or the recently advertised 'Wheel of Time' I see on the train?
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>>10034128

Oof.

It's a pulp fantasy book series from the '80s. It's author, Robert Jordan was called America's JRR tolkein before George RR martin came along.
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>>10034115
There's been studies on how female sexual drive is reactionary (in that it's reactive, no proactive), so you're in the norm here. The masculine is active, the feminine is passive.

And as for witches and fantasy...I like the idea of magical women being a kind of 'battery'. They're placed in restraining devices that constantly stimulate them, but drain them of mana. Which then gets funneled through various mechanical/magical means into devices controlled by male handlers. He himself has no magical ability, but he can control the stimulation of his 'batteries', to charge up the nefarious machine he's piloting.

So you could imagine an invading army, breaking down the walls of this matriarchal stronghold, using a giant magical artillery piece, which the fire by getting the batteries to 'peak output' through climaxing.

As the walls crumble and the soldiers flow in, protected by auras generated by more orgasming batteries, new material is gathered up and captured, to produce more batteries, to power every more complex and devastating weapons. And on and on it goes, until everything is taken.
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>>10034125

>angry feminist witches being forcibly impregnated as punishment for refusing to surrender or renounce their lesbian lovers.

This is really hot. It would also be a perfect punishment for the high witch/matriarch of the last story to be left alive but ceremonially impregnanted to ensure she couldn't cast magic again

Also relating to another topic from the last thread: i really like the idea of using ritual combat or athletic competition were girls, who think themselves strong are easily and comically defeated and then paraded around on a leash by gloating teenage boys. I think the magical scenario is exciting because it encourages the use of some mind games or trickery to overpower the women.

>being turned into a nymphomaniac coomer

Potentially this is a good way to condition women for long term secual slavery from borth as people are discussing. But sex denial as a breaking technique for rebellious "fresh" captives seems counterintuitive, and those are almost always going to the ones who actually need discipline for misbehavior.
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>>10034182
>female sexual drive is reactionary... magical women being a kind of 'battery'.
Adding to that line of thought, women getting pregnant means they themselves can no longer cast magic.
But as the stronger their sex drive gets the more powerful their mana becomes.
And of top of that the man that knocked them up is especially attuned to controlling the output of the magic.
Even more so if the child in her belly is his!

>new material is gathered up and captured, to produce more batteries
Personally I live the idea that these women will have a completely lewd live once enslaved.
They'd be trained to have higher sex drives and the breeding aspect means they're adding to the strength of the patriarchal nation both in having daughters and sons.
On a similar idea the more women they have the more powerful magic becomes but not just in the military sense.
So like instant communications and other IRL technology is achieved via magic?

>>10034222
>ceremonially impregnanted to ensure she couldn't cast magic again
Even more perverted is if she's made to some how only ever give birth to daughters.
And she has to watch as her blood line becomes a well bred line of sex slaves and mana sources for the upper class men.
Some times it's more fun to leave their minds intact (not mind broken) just to watch her reaction to her new lewd life

>easily and comically defeated and then paraded around on a leash by gloating teenage boys
I was thinking it could be a sexual version of the roman triumph where Every captured woman us put on parade an left open for men to rape.
Afterwards they're sold off or sent to slave training schools.

>condition women for long term sexual slavery from birth as people are discussing.
Yeah the whole sex as a reward stuff is mainly for good girls or captives that have been broken already.
I prefer using comforts and deprivation to train them, punishments might be sleep deprivation while good girls get rewarded with real food.
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> On a similar idea the more women they have the more powerful magic becomes but not just in the military sense.
I think the end-game for this kind of fantasy would be some sort of super-weapon. Since this is a lewd high-fantasy, I'm imagining some kind of beacon, that blocks women from basting magic independently (and of course, massively increases their libido, sensitivity, submissiveness, etc). Basically an "I win" button for the patriarchy, that turns all magical women into slaves and batteries, that is of course powered by batteries. A positive feedback loop leading to total female enslavement.
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>>10033874
they probably won't ever get far enough in the books, but something like what you're proposing actually happens, lol.
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>How do you anons address modesty/women's clothes?
Nude collar is standard, but slave fashion is intricately covering as much of them without covering specific parts as possible, or clothes where those parts can be easily exposed.

>>10034222
>But sex denial as a breaking technique for rebellious "fresh" captives seems counterintuitive, and those are almost always going to the ones who actually need discipline for misbehavior.
I guess you could use edging, where Master get you close to the boil, then as soon as you beg for permission to cum Master stops because of your recent bad behaviour. You beg and plead with him to finish you off, telling him how much you want his dick. If you succeed you're left in a fuzzy afterglow, if you fail you're on edge, almost comically so, but both ways you're left thinking how to better serve Master in the future.

>>10034240
If witches lose their ability after giving birth wouldn't they be heavily exposed military wise about 2 years after being conquered when most of the witches have now been impregnated. Also what power would the collar still exert over mother witches now they've lost their magical ability.

>>10034222
>i really like the idea of using ritual combat or athletic competition were girls, who think themselves strong are easily and comically defeated and then paraded around on a leash by gloating teenage boys.
There's a couple of football videos I've seen where it's like 100 5 year olds vs 3 good players, or a webm I saw on /sp/ of women losing to men on crutches/missing legs, or older out of shape players like here where they've pretty much all gone fat and bald, but still win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrtHQV0ncdU
After the show they have to parade the winning team through town. Only acceptable women's sport where this doesn't happen is walking over a few metres of knotted rope.
Although that only accounts for physical humiliation, and not intellectual which is also needed.
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>>10034722
>>10034222 #
>i really like the idea of using ritual combat or athletic competition were girls, who think themselves strong are easily and comically defeated and then paraded around on a leash by gloating teenage boys
Big fan of this also. There were some other ideas past thread about single sex women's sports were the rules were more guidelines and the winners were ultimately determined by who the crowd liked more. I think these two are incredibly complimentary. Girls are taught to play both sorts in school, so they get used to the easier feminine sports, but then they also have to play (maybe like an end of year tournament) against a boys team where nothing they do can change the rules or the fact that the boys crush them. Obviously this would only be done after the boys hit puberty
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>>10034377
>beacon, that blocks women from basting magic independently
Similarly perhaps men can also use magic spells that aren't meant to harm but to lewd the women it affects.
There are smaller magic circles where new captives are placed at the center of it and a orgy ritual goes on around them.
With the similar effect of turning women into coomers, so it's a common part of converting women to serve the patriarchy.

>>10034722
>exposed military wise
It's not exactly like the story from last thread, In this case witches only loose the ability to cast magic but still have magical power within them.
Her master in then able to harness that power for himself the larger and lewder his harem gets the more powerful of a wizard he is.

>collar still exert over mother witches
After their powers are contained the collars act is aphrodisiacs and serves to max out a woman's sexual pleasure.
In generable it make her life as a breeding bitch or sex toy much more enjoyable!
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>>10034849
>the winners were ultimately determined by who the crowd liked more.
I like that, it teaches them that male approval is the most important thing for them

>>10034885
Okay, I thought it was the same from last time where a woman loses all powers after childbirth, and their daughter inherits it. How does their collar react when their Master/patriarch dies? Does it leash onto the man that kills him if in battle, first male it comes into contact with, or whichever male was designated in the will
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>>10035058
>male approval is the most important thing for them
Might be fucked up but I'd love train them to have a self esteem based entirely on male approval and love from her master.
As in women being very desperate to please due to having a warped sense of self esteem.
So it's a mix of approval seeking and maxed sex drive baking women DTF and ready to breed any time.

>How does their collar react when their Master/patriarch dies?
Typically once a woman's master dies her collar will attach her mana and soul to whomever her former master designated as the heir.
Usually it's one of master's sons the default line of inheritance is Son> Master's brother> Cousins> His father.
As for stealing women dark arts must be used to break off the collar and bind her to her new master

>>10031290
Come quick ideas for the lewd fantasy setting

>What laws (if any) exist to prevent excessively cruel treatment of collared women?
Women are legally treated basically as children would be.
So they have human rights and etc. but have 0 power in politics or independence without her master.
Every woman in the nation must be enslaved and collared

>What's the type of woman your society aims to create?
Ideally women are raised or trained to be cum brains, the lewder they are the better the are in aiding her master as a magical battery
Besides that women are encouraged to obey their maternal instincts raising many children for her master.

>How should patriarchy be enforced?
The magical collars affect a woman's mind in how she thinks and behaves.
Making them into the perfect lewd fuck bunnies in a daddy dom-fem sub relationship.
A well trained woman hates the idea of having to deal with the rights of citizenship or the heavy responsibility of managing her own life
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>How should patriarchy be enforced? By laws? By force? By social pressure? Or something else?

Patriarchy is the law of the land and a social norm. Its considered the natural way of things and do even question it is taboo for both men and women

>Describe how women feel about their situation. Do they have any conflicted feelings which the patriarchy might play with?

Women under the patrairchy would mostly accept there station. With a few exceptions the vast majority of women fully accept there place in the patriarchy. Most even enjoy it and thrive to do there best at serving men.

>Are women allowed to work outside the home or are they kept at home?

Most women take care of the home, but there are exceptions. There are a few jobs that women are allowed to preform. Sex work, acting in movies and films, and female sports are some of the few jobs woman may be allowed to hold. With permission form there husbands of course.

>What are the dress codes for women at work, at home, etc?

Its considered normal to keep women naked at home to remind her of her station. The few women allowed to work tend to wear reveling and very slutty clothing.

>How are women view legally (like pets, slaves, children etc)?

Women are property under the law. Married women belong to there husbands. Unmarried women belong to there fathers, or an appointed male relative.

>Do men bare any legal culpability for the behavior of their women?

A women had no agency under the patriarchy, and its her husband/guardians legal duty to discipline her. If a women acts criminal and her man is found to have been lacking in proper discipline he can be found liable. He can also be found liable if he ordered her to commit said criminal act.

>Are women's leagues sexualized parodies of the games men play?

They are sexualized but not parodies. Women's uniforms are slutty, and female athletes are expected to be eye candy and act according, but are true sports games with all the rules in place.
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>>10034849
I love this idea of subtle societal reinforcement of misogyny. Forcing the girls to face the fact that no matter what they do, they'll always be inferior to the boys.

It would be nice to see this in other ways too.

I could see, in a relatively new patriarchy that still retains some memory of the old world, there being history classes where an emphasis is put on the achievements of men in the arts, sciences, politics etc. while also demeaning those of women.

There would still be rumors and hearsay about women who made some sort of scientific breakthrough or invented something that greatly benefited society from the old world and the class would exist to dispell them. Girls in particular would be assigned to give oral presentations on prominent female historical figures from history, with the aim of the assignment being to explain why the record of a woman's achievement from history is false. She would have to understand and explain that these old world misconceptions were simply a result of excessive political correctness when in reality the woman who was thought to have made a medical break through and saved lives was actually a fraud who contributed next to nothing compared to her male colleagues and was just awarded the credit because the college wanted to put a spotlight on "Women's achievement" for optics.

Whether or not this is true to actual history is beside the point. At the end of the class the girls would all be well educated in one thing: Explaining why females haven't made any contributions to society besides being a companion to men because they're not smart or suited for masculine pursuits involving intellectualism or creativity (besides things like singing songs written by men for them).

Girls would learn to scoff at the idea of having dreams like that and if one thought of herself as clever she would be relentlessly made fun of by her fellow female peers for thinking she could be smart like the men who made modern society great.
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>>10036141
I think you have to mix the carrot and the stick here. The point isn't to belittle women, but to explain the natural order, why things are the way they are, and what chaos is created when it's abandoned.

So you might do a compare and contrast of the wife or mother of a genius, how she managed to help him become great or raised him up, versus a frigid 'independent woman' who tried to do it all alone but failed.

You hear stories about how these 'independent women' were falsely raised up through affirmative action, out of pity, yet still couldn't achieve greatness, versus the women who embraced their powerful but submissive feminine energy, became subordinate to a man, and together they managed to do greatness.

So if a deviant starts getting agitated, or gets hysterical about 'equality', the rest of the girls just respond with an awkward silence, or sneers. Like if someone started talking about the sewage system or blood and guts in a math classroom.

Just, no gril, that's wrong and disgusting. Women are meant to submit, stop being a weirdo and just Be Normal please. Ugh, why do you keep bringing this trash up? No one cares, get with the program already. Why do you have to be so creepy you dumb bitch? Now, hurry up and get on your knees to give the male staff their morning blowjob, like everyone else is.
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>>10036195
Or you can teach them their place, make her realize that even a male kid can beat her in anything. You can repeat this a few times and destroy her delusion that she can hold up against a man.
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>>10036141
>history classes where an emphasis is put on the achievements of men in the arts, sciences, politics etc. while also demeaning those of women.
"There's a womens day, and not a commonly celebrated mens day for a reason. Because every single achievement in human history not on that small list of the former, was made by men.
Women, on average, perform to a lower standard then men in mostly everything. Situationally a woman might have a greater degree of knowledge or information, but the wider and further out you set your scope, the greater the man performs, and the lesser the woman does.
Hence why, the new modern society of socioeconomic dichotomy is right. It is a philosophical unfairness that women are destined to be inferior in practically all accounts, or that they are cursed with the many traits making them unable to function happily in life alone, but the human act of creating a society that functions at its maximum through a male-only workforce and leadership, giving men all the rights earned through their responsibilities, while still caring for, nurturing and carefully managing women, so that they can lead their own best lives in accordance with their nature and potentials, is nothing if not honest and good and just.
Men and women are not created the same. Therefore, they are created inequal, and an honest society does what is best and noble and just for both, instead of delusions of false equalities or idealistic but fictitious concepts of reality. It is most natural for men to stand tall and lead, and it is least stressful for a woman to simply do as she's told.
Dulce et decorum est patriarchae servire. Thank you."
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>>10035754
>They are sexualized but not parodies. Women's uniforms are slutty, and female athletes are expected to be eye candy and act according, but are true sports games with all the rules in place.
>>10036253
>Or you can teach them their place, make her realize that even a male kid can beat her in anything. You can repeat this a few times and destroy her delusion that she can hold up against a man.

Something from the previous thread.
>Girls schools and sports groups are more mindful of each others' natural frailty, and don't want to risk being not beautiful or feminine at any moment.
>This couples with the concept that being aggressive, competitive or physical with all that fast pace adrenaline and power is typically very much a male-associated thing.
>Hence, 99.9% of womens sports are taught incredibly noncompetitive and low pace. Teams often share or go between boxes to chat because they want to, and teams often kiss instead of shaking hands because it's cuter and more feminine.
>Any sport with high pace and energy and power is just slowed down for safety and comfort reasons until it's no longer high energy or at risk of hazard. This includes team sports, extreme sports, and combat sports. Some see minor rules changes, but most are mostly orthodox.
>Because of this, occasionally a (potentially uppity) female high ranking sportswoman/team might be pitted against a younger boy/team, only to realize that the sheer fact they're boys means they're already being hopelessly, terrifyingly outperformed, despite their high status as womans world champions because they've just never encountered the sport in that manner, ever.
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>>10036347
>because they've just never encountered the sport in that manner, ever.
I don't think it matters even if the shock of the first game wears off. Even if there's a month or two between "best of x" games. Even if you give the women preferential terms. The result will always be the same.
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>>10036195
>The point isn't to belittle women, but to explain the natural order, why things are the way they are, and what chaos is created when it's abandoned.
This, a patriarchy wouldn't all be about telling women they're inferior to men because then your just judging women by male standards.
Strength, intelligence and etc all that stuff are positive traits you want in men not women.
Instead to applaud women for being good wives, breeding sows, etc.
You encourage them to see their femininity as a positive thing and as something they should build on/improve.

>Women are meant to submit, stop being a weirdo and just Be Normal please.
Peer pressure is the hottest way of enforcing a misogynist view of the world on women.
If they're the odd one out just watch them get cuckqueened by other women.
And eventually they'll just give in.

>>10036332
>There's a womens day,
Only women's day that would be celebrated in a patriarchy should be mother's day for obvious reasons.
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>>10036195
>Narshen with Thany over Clarine
>Thany, Sophia, and Lilina being that big
Man I wish I wasn't so autistic about lore sometimes

>>10036141
>In reality the woman who was thought to have made a medical break through and saved lives was actually a fraud who contributed next to nothing compared to her male colleagues and was just awarded the credit because the college wanted to put a spotlight on "Women's achievement" for optics.
I like that you can still have the woman achieve so long as you have her playing 2nd fiddle/assistant to a man who gets accredited with it.

>>10036565
I think with how women end up getting pampered, they have mother's day, collar day (when their current Master bought them, birthday for girls yet to be sold), after their sold there's a crucial difference, boys still get their birthday, girls lose it in favour of their collar day, as her Master is the most important figure of their life now.
Lastly girls will also get an additional day of celebration on the anniversary of each of their children that are upholding the patriarchy
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>>10036958
>I like that you can still have the woman achieve so long as you have her playing 2nd fiddle/assistant to a man who gets accredited with it.

Yeah I think it would be wise that, even if she figured something out entirely on her own her influence in whatever discovery ought to be heavily diminished. She could get credit, yes. As, like you said, an assistant who helped by doing something small like transcribing notes, helping collate files or even just a special thanks for providing moral support to the man that will take credit for her work.

Wouldn't want misplaced arrogant thoughts about working independantly or thinking she's better than the men to crop up in her head because of the undue praise she might receive if she were given full credit. Best to keep her humble. Humbleness is befitting to a girl after all.
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>>10036972
I was thinking less of stopping them getting arrogant or big-headed, and more to pay credence to the idea that women excel best under close male instruction, and supervision, and all the best women in history had something like that
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>>10036958
>how women end up getting pampered, they have mother's day, collar day
>additional day of celebration on the anniversary of each of their children that are upholding the patriarchy
Hot, especially in how every woman centric holiday is focused entirely as celebration of her servitude to her master.
And the more she leans into her role as a woman the more praise she gets for it.

On top of that I'd love to see how this sort of thing turns into women virtue signaling about how good of a slave she is.
Putting more pressure on other women to conform, turning that gossiping nature of women into a tool to enforce patriarchy

>>10036972
>Wouldn't want misplaced arrogant thoughts about working independently
On that point I've always like the idea of keeping occupied with their role as mothers/sex pets.
They don't have the time nor the drive to aspire for boring mannish things like science.
It's more fun as a woman if you get to be a coomer or sex toy for master.

>>10036983
>women excel best under close male instruction...
But what should a woman strive to excel in doing?

Personally I think a patriarchy should direct women towards developing their feminine qualities.
Better to leave the fields of science and engineering to men who actually know what their doing.
Rather then a silly woman playing dress up in a lab coat.
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I'd like to think that public interviews of famous or powerful men (leaders, scientists, etc), always involves them bringing along their slaves. During the interview, where they talk about the challenges they overcome, they're just openly fondling her, playing with her tits and clitoris, edging her, demonstrating their dominance and control of her.

During the interview (after getting permission from him), the interviewer will interrogate his slave on topics like "And how did you help him during this difficult time? How did you demonstrate your loyalty and submissiveness to your master? How did you urge him to greatness?"

As she details all the little tricks and correct patriarchal behavior, she gets lots of applause and approval from the crowd. The interviewer compliments her on her femininity, how many children she has, if she's pregnant, and how much she is a good role model for other women.

And of course, all the husbands and wives watching are doing much the same thing. Repeating what they see, monkey see monkey do.

If she's a former foreign free woman, then she'll get even more praise about how far she's come, how much happier, healthier and sexier she looks. She'll be obligated to speak about how much better her life is now, how she was so confused before, but has purpose now, because she's embraced the patriarchy.

Maybe the first time she says it, she doesn't really believe it, and is just going through the motions. But the more she lives it, the more validation she gets, the more natural and right it all seems. Her own feminine social instincts begin to invert, pervert, and eventually corrupt her. Until one day, she realizes she's fallen for it completely. Now, she speaks the words not just with approval, but a perverted zealousness and pride.
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>>10037154
>compliments her on her femininity, how many children she has, if she's pregnant, and how much she is a good role model for other women.
Kind odd this hasn't been brought up before but there could also be women's pageants?
like it's even more sexist then irl ones focusing stuff like fertility, obedience games and etc.
on top of that it's not just softcore bikini porn but nudity/sex is a part of the show too.

>If she's a former foreign free woman
>Now, she speaks the words not just with approval, but a perverted zealousness and pride
Giving women a path to redemption is a important part of the propaganda.
it means that even a ex-feminist will be treated well if she chooses to repent.
And women are always the types who surrender if they know it's a ticket to a better life.
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Would you look down on women who wants to become a pretty trophy wife bearing only a couple or so children in her lifetime than to become a broodmother who will never experience life without pregnancy?
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>Kind odd this hasn't been brought up before but there could also be women's pageants?
like it's even more sexist then irl ones focusing stuff like fertility, obedience games and etc.
on top of that it's not just softcore bikini porn but nudity/sex is a part of the show too.
Imagine bodybuilding competitions, mixed with those junk tv kinda shows like botched or celeb talkshows.
But it's women being judged in accordance to their womanhood.
A bunch of mostly naked, styled and 'themed' women with wide, well padded hips, large (totally not chemically or hormonally enbiggened) breasts so full of such ludicrous amounts of milk they spurt freely in time with their hearbeat, and bellies taut and bloated with two or even three children at a time.
The participants, most often red and sweating and puffing heavily in the exertion of moving around with such heavy burdening on their delicate frames, often have to do a series of timed challenges that are no real challenge to anyone but women in that kind of state. Folding laundry, making five (planned and simple) meals and washing up, clean a room, and then make a man (masked for preservation of identity) orgasm through any method they feel comfortable with, with penalties being punished by some kind of sexual stimulus. It's judged on the idea of measuring for femininity, and who does better, but since it's a popular audience vote, it's often circumstantial appeal or just who was more endearing.
It's cheap and 'fake' (often with 'doping' competitors), and takes no brainpower. Some see it as trashy tv for insecure women or lonely men, but others absolutely eat it up as either pornography, or inspirational. It's also one of the few shows involving total uncensored nudity, that's commonly marketed to young children.
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>>10037577
Two different classes of person.
Your broodmother is a woman who has a pretty damn good set of genes, either natural, or through splicing, so she's kept pregnant near constantly, and she's been pregnant since 16-18 or so, and has been preparing for her role since early puberty, so it's cruel not to put a child in her because not being pregnant makes her uncomfortable and anxious.
She's healthy, productive, fertile and good at caring for kids but otherwise little education.

A trophy wife is a girl who didn't meet this criteria, but applied herself to a different route of cosmetic enhancement, to the point where she's unrecognizable as the person she started as, and is actually impacted by the sheer extent of implants. She's there specifically as eye candy. She's visibly plastic and fake, so no good for having kids, but she's good at managing things, entertaining people, either has just enough brains to be able to listen or hazard an opinion, or so incredibly dull it's comedic, and otherwise looking good and making you look good by owning her.
A man who's doing well for himself may have both.
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>>10037577
That decision isn't up to her, it's her owner's. In which case, that's his preference. As long as they are fulfilling their role as a woman, owned by their man, there's no reason to 'look down' on either.

But typically, the 'style' or 'type' of slave that a woman is going to be raised as is determined early in life. Full psychological profile, measuring fetishes, genetic testing, etc. Based on those results, she'll be assigned the role she performs best. She's then raised, trained, modified if necessary, and sold.

The path to being a 'trophy wife' usually relies on the starting material having an exhibitionist streak, high in vanity, high in extraversion, etc. Broodmothers have to be more docile, higher pain threshold but a more resilient personality. Being genetically predisposed to big healthy tits and wide hips is a bonus, but can be inserted in if not already present.

The women have no agency themselves. It's the responsibility of the patriarchy to mold the woman to fit the role, and put the woman in the right role. Since women don't know what they want, until they get it, this arrangement ends up better for everyone.
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>>10037583
>naked, styled and 'themed' women with wide, well padded hips
>bellies taut and bloated with two or even three children at a time
I love the idea that there's different leagues of women's pageants to meet fetishes of the viewers
The one you describe would be like Mothers of the year, for breeding sows or first time mommies to show off
Another could be a sweet 18th where young women advertise them selves for sale.
There's even a XXX rated one could be a "spots" pageant where women and their masters compete in physical(sexual) games!

>>10037589
>she's been pregnant since 16-18 or so, and has been preparing for her role since early puberty
Odd idea but women should be allowed to play sports and have real physical training during their younger years
Not for stupid reasons like being a "strong independent woman" but because being a full time breeder is very physically taxing
I'd love seeing women trained to peak physical condition purely because it helps them with sex and pregnancy

>>10037594
>That decision isn't up to her, it's her owner's
For me a trophy wife IS a broodmother.
There's nothing more sexy then a Venus type body that's caused by her having been bred since she was legal.
Fuller hips, Larger breasts, mommy fat in all the right places, think pic related and all of it natural due to the magic of pregnancy.
Even a pudge belly is fine, she'll be filled with babies soon enough!
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>>10037769
>Odd idea but women should be allowed to play sports and have real physical training during their younger years
They should, but as previously highlighted, even for those who want to engage into that kind of stuff, the standards of effort are different.
Getting a sweat up means some major effort or serious gameplay for women's sports, while for men it's just a prerequisite to play at any reasonable levels. A bump or a nudge with some weight, past gentle pushing, in any women's sport, is a horrible social accident, while for men's sporting leagues it's a given, even in noncontact.
Hence, even a pregnant woman could still compete for a lot of sports or such. They'd just need to mind themselves slightly more.
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>>10038247
I could see some leagues going so far as to turn
visible sweating into a foul that would have a girl taken off the field.

I like the idea of just kind of neutering women's sports. It would probably be pretty upsetting to serious athletes who competed before the change, but the new society recognizes the women are delicate creatures who shouldn't exert too much with their exercise, thus women's sports would be a casual affair.

And of course to make it fair for pregnant women as well, (which would be common under the patriarchy, with an ideology that greatly favors procreation.)
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>>10038247
Sports being made "softer" for women's leagues is fine.
I mean it more in the way that some women have actual real physical training for strength, stamina and etc.
Not aiming for the hyper muscle girl level but a prefect feminine physique that makes women good breeders.
It's that idea of healthy mothers making many healthy children, they're bodies will have no problem being pregnant back to back.

>>10038280
>visible sweating into a foul that would have a girl taken off the field.
>make it fair for pregnant women as well.
Thinking this kind of thing changes based on where a woman is in her life.
Before they're sold to their master they're encouraged to play hard
All with the goal of building a fit body(with the future of being a breeder in mind)
But once society sees her as a adult woman expectations change.
She's expected to become more of a submissive wall flower type.
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>>10037172
>Kind odd this hasn't been brought up before but there could also be women's pageants?

It has been brought up before, though not recently. It was combined with an earlier idea where male siblings get full control over their female siblings.

As the father is still the patriarch he still has the final say, but by the time his kids are starting to be "of age" in order to accommodate him as the patriarch and best allow him to relax with his harem, his sons are given control of his daughters. It inducts both into the patriarchy, and their roles within it. Female education is partially directed by male siblings and it's in their interests to ensure they get a good one, because female siblings are often (though not always) married off for dowries. If you can demonstrate obedience, pedigree, breeding, intelligence and perhaps an interesting and charming personality you're going to be worth more.

The pageants while not always ridiculously sexist are meant to facilitate that, as are the charm schools and sexual training at the behest of a sibling. Sometimes these girls have such high pedigrees that it's hard to marry them off, that or they've seduced their brothers and are actively fucking them. Usually these high pedigree girls are experts at running a household and can make quite a bit of money just at home. Sometimes they have their eggs harvested and those themselves are sold, which are fertilized and then implanted into surrogates. It's about as close to free as these women get, and they're about as high status as possible within the patriarchy. Such women make the lives of the men around them so much easier.
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>bump!
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Have a Merry Christmas with your slave girls!
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>>10038417
>male siblings get full control over their female siblings
I think the chain of command in a household for would be:
Father, Mothers(Dad's harem), Sons and last is daughters. It gives the boys a chance to learn how to be a good master.
And only once he's grown well into a young adult, does he gain full power over the women of the household though the father would still be in charge.

>Female education is partially directed by male siblings..
This would also be a good alternative to the slave schools, as I've never been a fan of heartless institutions running a woman's life.
For the most part a woman's life should be managed by the men of her family then her Husband/master.
Prevents that cold attitude of women being disposable if the men in charge of her actually know and love her.

>they've seduced their brothers and are actively fucking them.
>surrogates
Having both these options would be good if your not into gene editing you can always have your sister be a surrogate mother.
Like she's the first woman in your harem and you don't need to worry about inbreeding now
Or you could do as the do in Alabama with the added benefits of genetic modification
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>>10039960
>heartless institutions running a woman's life.
Only if women has a full 12 year course like in real life. A few years worth that teaches basics and state propaganda will not hurt. Also I think schools are a great way to socialize with other people you will never meet otherwise.
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>>10031290
These threads hit me in the feels ever since my gf walked away. She was everything I wanted and more. She was super submissive to the point of begging for choking, slaps to the face and spanking. Obedience needed work, she would often intentionally disobey me to incur a punishment, but I think that shit is hot as anything. And she dreamed about growing old with me in a little village in the mountains of Madeira, away from the stress and confusion of modernised society, and living an agrarian life surrounded by our family. She was perfect, and betrayed her.
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>>10040014
Do what I do anon, use it as learning experience.
>Be me.
>First ever gf.
>Grown up under hardline feminist (the older style, based kind, not the modern faggoty shit) so very polite and chivalrous and respectful.
>GF quickly demonstrated that I needed to manage her instead of treat with her like an equal, but I was pretty staunch in my beliefs.
>Spent ages feeding her whims on detailed stepford fetish material, despite her obsession with being the tough, independent woman she was pressured to be by peers/society.
>Let myself get quietly mad at her because she never worked as hard as I did for our relationship and no matter how much I treated her like one, she'd never act an equal.
I would have left her anyway due to being unstable, manic, and prone to violence, but I use what I learnt as a learning experience.
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>>10039944
>As they open the door they will buzz her vibrator
>each time the door opens she gets a little jolt of stimulation
>Commanding male voice will speak softly to her, feed and give her food, affection etc.
>Once her will has drained more so there's no risk of her using them for harm they will also put necklaces, earrings and other jewellery on her to make her feel more pretty
>very soon she's smiling up attentively at where the doorframe is each time it's opened
>they can't see her facial expression under her mask, only she knows the depths of her betrayal to the women's liberation she advocated for

>>10039960
>This would also be a good alternative to the slave schools, as I've never been a fan of heartless institutions running a woman's life.
The School itself is fine, runs semi-normal for both sexes until age 8 or so
>Socialises girls to make friends with their sisters in their future harem
>Teachers laud girls with credit for showing submissive attitudes towards the boys, and for gaining male approval
>Girls arguing is used as a good exercise for boys to teach them how best to resolve harem disputes
>Once they diverge for the genders boys will pick female classmate(s) to pair with for the rest of school
>boys have to learn how to juggle work/school, with keeping women happy, how to keep her obedient, and how valuable the women he owns are
>girls have to learn how to keep their "owner" content, and satisfied
It can be set up as a nice, safe, heavily-social (important for training women) learning environment rather than a cold government institution

>>10040014
>>10040189
That's rough. Then you have the next few months waking up around 5ish too sad and annoyed at yourself to go back to sleep, or in a couple of years you just randomly remember her
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>>10039960
>>10039960
>few years worth that teaches basics and state propaganda will not hurt
>socialize with other people
If that's the idea of schooling your going for then I can see it.
It's a finishing school type of thing where it's really just a place for women to advertise them selves to buyers.
As in basic education is from home but social grace, art/music and that kind of stuff is learned from a school.
Just for a few years, instead of going to university women go to these etiquette schools instead.

>>10040248
>Teachers laud girls with credit for showing submissive attitudes towards the boys, and for gaining male approval
A short 4-5 years for girls in these "schools" would be great for both men and women.
Really the biggest part of it would be teaching them how to fill their role in society (boys as future masters and girls as their slaves)

> learning environment rather than a cold government institution
Yeah Always like the idea that even if there are schools for women there mostly private school type deals
Or simply fathers working together to have a "school" where they're daughters are taught.
Really anything that keeps power in the hands of individual fathers and masters is something I like.
All this stuff about breeding factories/ 1984 indoctrination centers always seem to cruel for girls born into the patriarchy
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>>10040494
>All this stuff about breeding factories/ 1984 indoctrination centers always seem to cruel for girls born into the patriarchy
I think the appeal for breeding factories, I view as small time farms where the farmer would be raising and caring for sheep, plus it's an all roads lead to Rome, where no matter the woman's upbringing, she'll end up with a "hopefully" loving Master. I imagine private same sex schools exist for boys, and girls like normal, and are incredibly expensive like irl, but the girls one would basically be a giant harem, the boys one would be as academic as normal, but they would have to spend a week or so managing one of the classes of the affiliated girl school
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>>10031832
>Women simply need to accept the collar while men literally run the world.
for me, the best kind of setting is one that women enforce themselves the patriarchy because they know how lost and empty they'd be without it.
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>>Once they diverge for the genders boys will pick female classmate(s) to pair with for the rest of school
Perhaps only until they actually finish primary school proper.
Then, when they move onto gender segregated middle/high schools, the more major differences show up.
Mens schooling gets exponentially more punishing, while womens is a comparative cakewalk.
Most female classes are optional, with attendance being from social pressure or competitiveness.
90% of the staff are successful and heavily pregnant broodmothers or extensively cosmetically altered bimbo's that bear no resemblance to their younger selves, all hand picked to teach the new generation and to be role models.
Outside of learning how to deal with their emotions, working with boys schools, and bettering themselves as young women, schools are entirely for being social, trying new things, and learning how to have their managed fun as young women.
There isn't a uniform or dress code, so much as a dress aesthetic that girls are encouraged to buy into.
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I was thinking that some societies might have a sort of reverse Hayes code for their media.

Rather than rules enforcing modesty, they would enforce a lack of it when it came to women in TV and film.

After a certain age female actors wouldn't just be expected, but required to have scenes involving various degrees of nudity.

If she were in a main role in a show, there would be requirements for things like to have her breasts exposed for at least 15 seconds once an episode.

There would be no getting around it for actresses, if she wants a succesful career she knows the public will have to become intimately familiar with her body, no matter how she feels about the situation.
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>>10040934
That kind of stuff wouldn't be something she'd get pulled up on though.
A successful actress should be perfectly happy and willing, almost focused, around using her body to satisfy and serve others in such a manner. There's a good chance it's the original draw to her doing acting in the first place.
Any regulations on what she can do that pull her up is limiting how much service she can give so the crew and set can keep to deadline without getting distracted by any of the female staff servicing them.
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Actresses are public property, I think their body count should be romanticize.
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Theme Specific
>How would new Masters learn to look after women? Is it something that their fathers teach them? Or is it hands on as they grow up with slave girls/their sisters?
A combination of schooling and learning at home. A father's job is to show the son that while their womenfolk are subordinate, they are still to be treated well. School's job is to show them how.

>What laws (if any) exist to prevent excessively cruel treatment of collared women? do they also apply to free women?
My ideal is a gentle paternalistic society. Women are able to report excessive cruelty to the police, and depending on the severity, a man could have his women taken away, or he could even be imprisoned. Free women have the same rights, but in practice, are much less likely to be listened to.

>What's the type of woman your society aims to create? (Ara ara MILFs, Horny cum-brained women, etc.)
Intelligent enough to fulfill any of the simple tasks their master gives them, well-socialized to get along with their fellow harem mates, and completely submissive to their master.

>Describe what's life like for a good obedient woman, is it a life of pure carnal pleasures or something else entirely?
Plenty of praise & attention from their master. If they're very good, he might even put a child or two in them, which society praises as every woman's dream.

General
>How should patriarchy be enforced? By laws? By force? By social pressure? Or something else?
Social Pressure. On women to conform and obey, on men to protect and take care of them.

>How should women see themselves when they look in the mirror? Describe the ideal self-image of a woman under patriarchy.
Barefoot, naked save for their collar, and pregnant with their master's child.
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>>10041593
CONT.

For men:
>What are the cruelest things you want to do to the weaker sex? How would you punish a troublesome female? What challenges would you set for an obedient ancilla?
A stern word should do the trick for the most part, since women would be raised to believe that their greatest duty & fulfilment in life is pleasing their master. For more serious acts, punishments could range from spanking to being locked in the basement alone in chastity for a few days. Punishment may be necessary at times, but rehabilitation so they know what they did wrong and won't repeat it in the future is more important.

>What are the kindest things you want to do to your pets? How would you express affection to a loyal bitch at your heels?
The kindest thing any master can do is put a baby into one of his girls. That is a guaranteed 9 months of Master's attention and concern if she is well-behaved and carries it to term. Verbal praise is an extremely common method of showing approval and affection. Besides that, many masters will reward a good girl with sexual attention, sometimes even non-reciprocal, such as oral sex or fingering.

>How should a Father treat his daughters, wives and other women in his personal life?
Strict when the situation calls for it, especially in ensuring they know their place in society. Otherwise though, he should dote on them, showering them with his affection.
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>>10041645


World building:
>What's the ideal state of gender norms(Pushed back to old ways or Neo-patriarchy)?
Largely pushed back to the old ways. Males handle the work, the protection, etc.; Women handle the home life.
>Describe how women feel about their situation. Do they have any conflicted feelings which the patriarchy might play with?
In the early days, some women would no doubt have issues with it. However, in the "present day", the combination of the new schooling & home life have both ensured that the vast majority of women now are not only okay with, but wholly support the patriarchy. Those few who don't are seen as witless radicals, and are dismissed or shunned outright by other women.
>Are the people in your world biologically different from IRL humans? If so, how?
Probably the same.
>What is the highest aspiration for a woman in your world? What sort of life can the best women live?
Pleasing their master. The very best of women can only hope to be picked up by one of the rich businessmen at the top of society & live lives of unimaginable luxury. Those truly devoted enough for that will go out of their way in schooling, and attempt to get noticed by the talent scouts who keep an eye on graduating classes. Getting noticed by the right one can be a life-changing event.
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>>10040494
>>10040640
>small time farms where the farmer would be raising and caring for sheep
So long as it's small scale where it's the farmer that's fathering all the slave girls it's fine.
I just hate the idea of women being born and bred with no real love from their master.
The more cruel treatment should be reserved for captured free women/feminists that can't be trained with normal methods.

>>10041475
This, actresses roles should be little more then prizes for male heroes teaching men that it's their place as masters.
And women want to be swept off their feet by their own prince charming.
Besides that most media is basically porn anyways.

>>10041593
>Social Pressure. On women to conform and obey,
I always saw this as the best way to control women after all IRL it's easily seen that a woman's most painful weapon towards other women is words and social groups.
An other part that important is the roles of mothers in the patriarchy, putting the ideas of a woman's place into her daughters heads

>put a baby into one of his girls
Peek femininity would be motherhood and it should be something that's celebrated for women.
Hence the idea of fertility cults or rituals always seems like a good fit.
Sounds weird but most of the patriarchy would be focused on making women happy mothers/sex toys.

>>10041670
>early days, some women would no doubt have issues with it.
Side question but what's your favorite part of the patriarchal time line?
In the end at utopia, at the start of the sexist revolution, everything in-between.
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>>10042028
>at the start of the sexist revolution

I really like to think about the beginning of the transition. There's just something adorable to me about girls who are having a hard time adapting to the new regime. One thing I think would be fun to see is the way service workers like waitresses start to take on the role of eye candy rather than just service girls.

I could see there being a gradual change in uniform as patriarchal ideals start to take hold. I imagine this image would be sort of a middle point, where girls are expected to bare quite a bit of skin at their jobs.

It's cute to imagine a girl struggling to adapt to her new attire, knowing she doesn't really have a choice in it. After living all her life in an egalitarian society that taught her this kind of objectificaton was wrong, it would be quite jarring I imagine. Rather embarrassing and hard to get used to.

It would be fun to get to watch her fidget as she gets eyed up and commented on for the first time going out to do her job like this.
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>>10042028
>So long as it's small scale where it's the farmer that's fathering all the slave girls it's fine.
It would have to be done a little bit for the fall of women, and so that lower income families can still afford women, but ideally it would be gradually phased out for more humane methods once the ratio improves.


>Sounds weird but most of the patriarchy would be focused on making women happy mothers/sex toys.
Not much needs to be done here, seeing young babies trigger maternal instincts in a lot of women in their 20s and 30s. If they view the children born to Master as the harem's own, then it will hit those reflexes even harder

>Side question but what's your favorite part of the patriarchal time line?
NTA, but the fall of women by a mile. Nothing wrong with girls being born, and bred to serve their male superiors, and being happy with their lot in life.
But the loss of freedoms, the desperate tantrums to try and get their own way, and the horror when it gets them admonished, disciplined, or just ostracised, and ignored for the other girls in Master's harem. The eventual submission, the zeal she holds for her newfound beliefs, and the disdain she has for her old ones, as a lot of converts do.

>>10042092
Before the revolution being catcalled, wolf-whistled etc. was viewed as street harassment. Now it's much more frequent on the girls yet to be enslaved, but they're expected to be thankful for this male attention. Some naturally shine, some are still set in the old ways, the act itself is demeaning enough, but to have to gratify the sexist pig who did it? Normally her pride wouldn't allow it, but she has no other choice. Her only way out is the collar, to bind herself to a man and serve as part of his harem. Unthinkable! Although the propaganda did seem to have a point, the only happy girls she saw nowadays were harem girls. No, that's silly, she could never, could she?
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>>10042092
>gradual change in uniform as patriarchal ideals start to take hold
Not just that but their jobs would slowly become more lewd and openly sexual.
Like groping is allowed as their skirts get shorter, or even being outright enslaved by their former employer.
Him taking his favorites as wives and forcing others into prostitution or renting out their wombs for breeding.
All while these women are either horrified or giving into their loss of freedoms.

>>10042135
>done a little bit for the fall of women
On the darker side, I love the idea of using the most rebellious women captured during the rise of the patriarchy.
They're seen as too troublesome rehabilitate so they're send to breeding farms, where they're raped then forced to give birth over and over.
Maybe even having their wombs changed to only have daughters and they're raised by a faster family to ensure ideas from the old world die out.

>trigger maternal instincts in a lot of women in their 20s and 30s.
Honestly that the aspect of control that makes it much hotter, it's their own bodies and instincts working against them.
That's why ensuring that once slave women come of age they're sold and knocked up ASAP.
You never give them the chance to think about rights by making women into breeders, maids or sex toys your keeping them busy and happy.

>eventual submission, the zeal she holds for her newfound beliefs
Weird to say it but I love the rape and forced breeding aspect of women falling to the patriarchy.
They go from kicking/screaming during rape to lovely harem girls
All due to women's biology+ Stockholm syndrome.

Side note:
IRL there's something about rape and submissiveness in women.
It's a evolutionary advantage for women to fall in love with her rapist and to have his kids.
Better that they give in and raise his kids then to die with the rest of her tribe.
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>>10042255
>On the darker side, I love the idea of using the most rebellious women captured during the rise of the patriarchy.

If you want to go dark like that, then I think the best way to correct the old way's "harmful opinions" are
>Any sons are separated, so he can be taught how to properly treat women
>The first daughter is kept, and the mother is given the choice:
>Accept male dominion, train her daughter to submit, and they can both live happy lives as slaves
>Refuse, in which case the daughter will either be confiscated until the mother is broken, or the daughter will be raised under the same punishments as she's been given since the fall of women, but the daughter will be told her "whorish mother" is to blame for it, and will no doubt resent her.
Otherwise if they're too set in the ways, then they can just be bred, for daughters upon daughters


>by making women into breeders, maids or sex toys your keeping them busy and happy.
As it's regarded as true for all women, those that don't birth will be denied the male attention they so crave, whilst her sisters will doubt her femininity
>Weird to say it but I love the rape and forced breeding aspect of women falling to the patriarchy.
>They go from kicking/screaming during rape to lovely harem girls
>All due to women's biology+ Stockholm syndrome.
>Side note:
>IRL there's something about rape and submissiveness in women.
>It's a evolutionary advantage for women to fall in love with her rapist and to have his kids.
>Better that they give in and raise his kids then to die with the rest of her tribe.
I know a lot of women do have fantasies where they do have some control over it, they just need to be persuaded that woman having control is an outdated idea that doesn't work, female happiness lies in relinquishing all control to men, even if that means he has unrestricted access to her at all times. Master knows best after all
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>>10042283
>train her daughter to submit, and they can both live happy lives as slaves
What makes this even better is taking advantage of her maternal instincts!
Also this should be combined with the mother child bonding, like you let her keep her baby for a few months and then drop this option on her.
Some women might just be "doing it for my daughter" only to give in eventually as she realize her daughter really does love being a pampered slave.

>or the daughter will be raised under the same punishments
This is what you should tell women who don't give in but in reality you raise the daughter as a good girl
Need to get the cultural part of patriarchy started ASAP, it would be a waste to punish the daughter over nothing.
New generation new cult/culture kind of deal.

>denied the male attention they so crave, whilst her sisters will doubt her femininity
Adding to this would be raising women's Libido, as in making them cum brained.
having them addicted to male attention and love, plus the whole sisters/peer pressure system would be perfect too.
Women are very social creatures after all.

>female happiness lies in relinquishing all control to men
Hence why daddy dom x fem sub is the healthiest type of slavery.
And putting men in their natural role as the patriarch of his own harem also helps to prevent sadism.
As in men are indoctrinated too, seeing themselves as the loving protector/master
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>>10041645
>>10041670
To continue these:

Work:
>Are women allowed to work outside the home or are they kept at home?
They are, but only with the approval of their Husband/Father. The majority of women stay at home though.
>What sort of work is considered menial and feminine enough to be appropriate for women?
Secretarial jobs, modeling, female sports, and sex work are the most common, but especially bright & devoted women have been known to become teachers. Only in the girls finishing schools though.
>What are the dress codes for women at work, at home, etc?
A women should have her collar on at all times. Technically a collar can be made of nearly any material, but in practice, it is typically either leather or something closer to a cloth/silk choker. A tag on her collar lists her master and his address, so that if something happens, he can quickly be located. Besides the collar, the clothing a woman wears is typically weather dependent, but it is customary for women to be naked at home. Outside of the home, women typically wear clothing that highlights their body without outright sluttiness.
>should sexual favors be explicitly written into women's job descriptions, or is it just an unspoken understanding?
Women's job descriptions are not so much contracts with the woman as with her master. He is expected to review and make sure his woman understands her duties, and it is ultimately his call whether she must perform sexual duties for other men besides himself while at work.
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Crime and Punishment:
>How are women view legally (like pets, slaves, children etc)?
Essentially as children
>Do men bare any legal culpability for the behavior of their women?
They do, and in fact, often bear more culpability, though it heavily depends on the situation.
>Does the legal system use corporal punishment on women?
No, that is reserved for their Masters.
>What are women's prisons like?
Strict, with enforced chastity and constant propaganda on the benefits of the patriarchal reign.

Sports:
>What sort of sports are women allowed to participate in?
Non- or Limited-Contact sports. Soccer is probably the most physical.
>Are women's leagues sexualized parodies of the games men play?
The leagues and sports themselves are not. However, the clothing/gear might be. Think a golfer wearing a sports bra & short skirt or volleyball shorts, rather than polo & standard skirt.
>Are there televised sports that are outright fetish play, like ponygirl races?
Not particularly
>What is cheerleading like?
Surprisingly competitive. Cheerleading is a very easy way to get noticed by a richer man, and fathers are usually quite supportive of it.
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I'll add one more set of prompts as well (probably been done in a previous thread though)

School
>Do girls & boys attend the same schools and classes? Or are they kept separated?
>What sort of classes do girls take in school? Is it a rigorous education or largely a joke? What about boys?
>Who are the teachers?
>Is there a special school uniform for the girls?

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School
>Do girls & boys attend the same schools and classes? Or are they kept separated?
Classes are kept mixed co-ed until 6th grade. Boys and girls are both expected to meet the same standards at this point, to ensure an at least decent baseline of schooling. Beginning with 6th grade, the 2 genders are separated.
>What sort of classes do girls take in school? Is it a rigorous education or largely a joke? What about boys?
Girls are focused more on home economics, beauty, the history of the patriarchy, etc. A broad focus is placed on "How to please your Master", though in practice, sex-ed starts a little later. Boys receive the more intensive "educational" schooling, as well as classes on conflict resolution, how to treat women properly, etc.
>Who are the teachers?
Teachers can be men or women, but female teachers are subject to extra supervision, and are only hired for the job if vouched for by at least 2 other men in addition to their master.
>Is there a special school uniform for the girls?
All girls must wear their normal collar at school much as they would elsewhere. The school uniform can vary from place to place, but the combination of a somewhat thin white blouse and short skirt, usually down to mid-thigh, is especially popular. Some institutions forbid underwear, or even clothing altogether.
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>>10042310
>Need to get the cultural part of patriarchy started ASAP
I can't imagine they'll last out long enough to even get to there.
>Collars at corrective facilities, are rough, abrasive, and heavy, nothing like the elegant collars willing women wear
>Wake up in a communal cell to simulate harem conditions
>Expected to pretty themselves up each morning, doing their hair, make-up, accessories etc. ready to present themselves for male inspection
>Any who fail are disciplined, there's also a communal punishment if one fails as part of the harem training.
>Prisoners are blindfolded, and told any who want Master to let them orgasm go to the left side of the room as a judgement free way to surrender
>Constant edging and hopelessness cause the numbers to dwindle each time
>Those that submit are brought to orgasm, the audio of her pleasure/"betrayal" is recorded, and played to the remainder.
>Surrenderees then confess, admitting they were trying to subvert women's happiness in the old way, and acknowledging they need a strong male presence in their life to guide them.
>Unbroken whores are marched through town, dildo in mouth. Men don't really care, why would they? They have their own happy slaves. It's more for the looks of scorn they get from collared women who blame them for how miserable they were pre-Master
>One of the prisoners, once a respected university lecturer, now naked, butt as red as a fire engine recognises a former student of hers that was always outspoken, fearless. Now happily collared.
>Slave doesn't recognise her at first, as she's too engrossed in her Master, but the glare she gives once she does is the final straw that breaks the lecturer

There's also frequent displays of male strength, and female helplessness in the first few days.
>Pregnant woman bridal carried with a gentle delicateness
>Non pregnant women often flung over their Master's shoulder
It's an excellent way to build up male confidence, and female submission, and pregnancy perks
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>>10042475
>women to be naked at home. Outside of the home, women typically wear clothing that highlights their body
Love this simply because of the idea it pushes on women, with them being barefoot, pregnant and naked.
They're "open for use" by their master 24/7 and their bodies belong to him hence he can fuck them any time.
As for women's fashion there could be maternity dresses that really show off her fertility/belly.

>>10042584
>How to please your Master", though in practice, sex-ed starts a little later
Sound perverted but perhaps girls get in person lessons on sex/breeding.
Like a teacher gets fucked by her master(or male students if the school owns her).
Her body will be the teaching aid as she goes though every thing from sexual technique, pregnancy and birth

>>10042877
>judgement free way to surrender
>Constant edging and hopelessness
A other aspect to that is the sex women are allowed to have, as in for unsold women it's anal only.
But more submissive girls that are sold/pre-ordered they're "raped" by their future master while blindfolded.
They'll get knocked up but have no idea who the father is adding to the breaking process.

>Unbroken whores are marched through town, dildo in mouth
This could even be an opportunity to punish trouble makers.
Like locking them in vaginal chastity but leaving their ass as a free us cum dump.
Just put them in the stockade and let the public punish them.
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>>10043044
>How to please your Master", though in practice, sex-ed starts a little later
>Sound perverted but perhaps girls get in person lessons on sex/breeding.
>Like a teacher gets fucked by her master(or male students if the school owns her).
>Her body will be the teaching aid as she goes though every thing from sexual technique, pregnancy and birth

This, i like this a lot. While audience participation isn't REQUIRED, it is not discouraged either. While a girl's body ultimately belongs to her master, not her classmates, teacher, or teacher's master, in practice many women will end up in harems. In such situations, a single girl will not always end up as the focus of her master at all times. Therefore, she should be comfortable with either taking a secondary role in sex, or playing with herself or other girls should her master allow it.
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>>10043044
Quick note on a slave girl's sex ed!

>>10043156
>audience participation isn't REQUIRED, it is not discouraged either
For an introductory lesson it'd be something like the teach getting on as desk spreading her legs and showing off her pussy.
The teacher would professionally go over parts like the labia, clit and etc. all while using her own body as the example.
Her pupils would be allowed to poke and feel the teacher up as she goes though it.
Mating lessons might go so far as to allow slaves in training to suck on or feel up a man's cock.
But actual sex for the students in most cases is not allowed, but masturbation during the show is highly encouraged.
Obviously detailing the process of pregnancy is done with the teacher's own body and birthing shows are always a great year end event!
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>>10043304
Pic related.
For Masters that want their daughters to be sold as high priced wives hymen inspections are done bi-weekly.
While slaved trained as sows or purely for sex they're allowed more "freedom" in how they serve the male students/teachers.
It's not uncommon for these women to be pregnant during the graduation auctions
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>>10042475#
>customary for women to be naked at home
I absolutely love the idea that clothes for women are an occasion on it's self. The act of wearing clothes should be special for a woman, not something she expects in her day-to-day life.
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>>10043546
All articles of clothing have a ritualistic, almost religious significance. The meaning of the collar is obvious, but any time she wears ANYTHING else, there is some kind of justification or mantra for it she recites, at least in her own mind. For example, when wearing a apron for household chores, she should embody the idea of devoted service. When wearing a ballgown to a fancy party, she should embody the beautiful artifact on display, etc.

When her master gives her clothes, they're not there to cover her body. They're there because her master has a specific role or purpose he wants her to fulfill, and as an instrument of her master's will she's happiest when fulfilling his purpose. This is so entrenched in the slave mentality that women will privately thank clothing for giving her a chance to please her master, before said clothes are locked away for the night.
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>>10043546
>>10043563
Are modest clothing considered punishment?
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>bump!
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>>10043563
>>10043546
That's good, the clothes they do get no doubt have velcro or zip segments to allow easier access too

>This is so entrenched in the slave mentality that women will privately thank clothing for giving her a chance to please her master, before said clothes are locked away for the night.
I like the idea of having women's clothes in a walk-in cupboard, slaves are allowed to wear what they like inside the cupboard, but as soon as she's outside those clothes belong to Master, just like the women's bodies and she's accepted to strip as, and when he feels like it.
The slave can choose between keeping a favourite dress or pyjamas inside, or wear them out, and risk Master confiscating it for however long he desires

>>10044062
NTA but depends on the Master, some do, personally I prefer lewd to nude, and with clothes you can try and find the right balance between degrading, but also exotic enough to flatter how pretty she feels. Especially if it's an outfit she enjoys, but was so risque that she'd never have been brave enough to wear it whilst free. As a general rule I would assume it isn't a punishment unless
1) they're not getting enough affection from Master on top of the outfir
2) the other girls in his harem aren't dressed like that, and he doesn't use modest clothing as a positive status symbol for girls
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>>10044761
>velcro or zip segments to allow easier access too
I'm thinking that since clothes for women are purely for aesthetics anyway, there's no point on making them durable. So most of the clothes you can buy are cheap and essentially disposable, save for the few utilitarian ones (e.g. Coats, Aprons, etc.)
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>>10043304
>>10044062
>Are modest clothing considered punishment?
I always like the idea that it's a specific outfit.
Full body chastity suit that cover all erogenous zones to make sure she has 0 sexual stimulation.
pair this with the whole fem coomers idea so for most girls this would be living hell.
Especially if she's getting Cuckqueened by other harem girls.

>>10044873
>no point on making them durable. So most of the clothes you can buy are cheap and essentially disposable, save for the few utilitarian ones
Thinking something like pic related is considered as "normal" clothes for women.
And the whole point of it not being practical and easy to rip off is that it tells women no mater what she's always open for her master to use.
While on the opposite end being punished with overly modest clothes is a sign that she's not getting an intimate loving
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>>10045311
Tbh i absolutely hate "clothes" like that. It just looks needlessly slutty for the sake of looking needlessly slutty. I much prefer something super sheer & lacy. Technically she's covered up, but you can see everything anyway.
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>>10045311
>>10045839
>slutty for the sake of looking needlessly slutty.
Well it's a slider from hyper-slutty to from barely covering anything at all.
Even a woman's clothing should stress that she's there for her master's pleasure.
So her man can dress her to show her off like in >>10045311
Or something more "modest" if he doesn't want her to bare it all for other men to see.

But in a /d/ patriarchal society where women are seen as sex pets and breeders, standards for female modesty is different.
Like how some IRL Amazon/African tribes have their women with tits out and "skirts" that cover basically nothing.

>super sheer & lacy. Technically she's covered up, but you can see everything anyway
Perhaps your thinking of something like pic related?
Or you could have form fitting clothes for women that basically expose her figure but she's still eye candy.
Think the theme of women's clothes should be "for your viewing pleasure"
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>>10045839
>>10045877
So more like one of those body suits where you can see the navel, waist, and everything else through it?
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>>10045877
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>body suits where you can see the navel, waist, and everything else through it?
That'd be the less slutty version where it's covered yet the form fitting nature of it basically lets you see her body perfectly.
Other options Might be suits with cut outs or other easy access features that makes sure women are only a few moments away from a good fucking from her master.
A woman exists to serve her master(and it's his duty to care for her) so clothes and other such things are just another way to drill that idea into her head.
Though for me personally I like outfits that are more on the slutty side of things, for the same reasons you'd like to show off a Ferrari.
Using how fit and healthy your women are as a status symbol of how much of a responsible master you are.
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>>10045877
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Call it the difference between lingerie & slutwear. I prefer something "classier" for lack of a better word
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>>10042584
One other point that's probably been poked at upthread as well, but i think makes sense is a focus on phys-ed for the girls as well. Not necessarily full-on weightlifting or full contact sports, but things like swimming, running, etc. A young woman should be fit, almost athletic, the better to prepare her body for when she has a proper master. Any excess weight gain should be the result of her growing fat with child, not over-eating. Phys-ed attire is the usual t-shirt & volleyball shorts, or a one-piece swimsuit.

The phys-ed fields and facilities are typically placed between the boys & girls schools, and are typically shared. However, the 2 schools would alternate uses rather than mix classes.
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>>10047837
>Matly
In the end of the day there's nothing like putting a woman on her place.
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>>10041645
As a slight update to this:
>What are the cruelest things you want to do to the weaker sex? How would you punish a troublesome female? What challenges would you set for an obedient ancilla?
>A stern word should do the trick for the most part, since women would be raised to believe that their greatest duty & fulfilment in life is pleasing their master. For more serious acts, punishments could range from spanking to being locked in the basement alone in chastity for a few days. Punishment may be necessary at times, but rehabilitation so they know what they did wrong and won't repeat it in the future is more important.

Sometimes nothing a master can do will truly be enough to tame an unruly woman. In those situations, a master can free her rather than continuing to waste his time attempting to fix her. If women are normally considered 2nd class citizens, free women are easily 3rd class.
A free woman has essentially no rights beyond protection against violence, sexual assault, & the like, but even those are not necessarily firm, given that she would still need to convince the police of her case. She is not allowed to own property unless it is co-signed by a male, and if he later revokes his signature, she is out of luck. Almost all businesses also require the permission of a woman's master to hire her, making things astronomically more difficult. In practice, she only has 3 real options. The luckiest find a new master to take them in. New masters will usually consult with her previous before making any such decision though. Otherwise, a life of sex work and/or outright homelessness and desperation await her.
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>>10041645
I love your taste
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>>10048572
>most all businesses also require the permission of a woman's master to hire her, making things astronomically more difficult.
I assume it's the opposite fir 3rd class free women though, like how irl we have a minimum wage for adults, and another one for U18s, so too do uncollareds have a significantly lower minimum wage, so are seen as incredibly disposable labour. The amount it's stacked against them doesn't end there
>Uncollareds are banned from public transport
>Proprietors can refuse service to the uncollared
>Only place they can afford to live is a small room shared with several others, owned by a shady landlord
By rejecting their natural purpose within the patriarchy, they have asked society to treat them like a man, of course they can escape whenever they want. All they have to do is embrace their natural submissive femininity, and no doubt a Master will be kind enough to take her in, and save her from her freedom
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>>10048296
>nothing like putting a woman on her place
Above post is a perfect answer to >>10032621
If she's just some rebellious bitch especially one that used exploited men before her enslavement.
Then there's nothing wrong with enslaving her as a public use whore till her will to resist is broken.
Perhaps force her to have a few bastard daughters born from rape.
Afterwards selling her off as a lower ranked slave/maid seems fine
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>>10048700
My post was meant more as a means of making women realise they're not capable of handling all the responsibility, and pressure, and that she should be grateful to any prospective Master that would absolve her from this.
I'm still not sure how motivated men would be to rape her, given he has his own slave(s) that he should have a much better emotional bond with
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>>10048700
>women realise they're not capable of handling all the responsibility, and pressure
Rape and the harsher methods of breaking a woman's spirit would only be used on women that pose a threat as the subversive types.
Or where actively working against the patriarchy before enslavement, so most enslaved women wouldn't need the more brutal treatment.
For them it's closer to are "women's school" which is just a dressed up brain washing center.

>how motivated men would be to rape her
Morally men would have no issue with raping a disobedient woman as part of her punishment even going to the point of beatings (line is drawn at permanent damage).
It's a case of ends justify the means, when it comes to breaking women, you want her to become a good slave.
Even if the methods are a bit more rough then what most women get.
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>>10048788
Shit reply was for >>10048713

Have a bonus pic
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A time-honored holiday tradition at virtually every mid-sized company is the Secret Santa event, where participation is all-but-mandatory. Free female "volunteers" are temporarily enslaved, stripped, wrapped and boxed as gifts and delivered to a randomly selected male employee. A female executive could be given to a lowly male intern, an ultra-competitive ice queen could be given to her hated competition, and so on. As she has been temporarily enslaved, he is free to do almost anything he'd like with his "gift" aside from a few obvious exceptions.

It is supposed to be very good for company morale. The benefits for male employees are obvious, but surprisingly female employees who participate often also score higher on evaluations for productivity, aggreeableness, and similar measures of employee health. Though, every year at least a few female employees remain enslaved by male employees who like their gift a little too much.
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>>10048788
That anime was quite... entertaining.
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>>10048894
In such a system, I'd be shocked if various "volunteers" and their male counterparts are as random as they might first appear. Oh, I'm sure most of them are random, but it's just such a useful system to get rid of.... annoying elements. It doesn't even have to be official or even unofficial policy. Just a few execs or management types who are able to manipulate the system to their advantage.

Say you have a good performer, not great, but good. And she has been making noise about wanting a raise, or perhaps maybe leaving the company for a different one. Well, she might find herself "volunteered" to someone who the execs know is more than likely to just keep her enslaved permanently. If they were going to lose her regardless.

Another example might be some middle management type bribing the person whodoes the 'randomness' of who goes to who, to have their boss or boss's boss removed from the picture, opening the way for a future possible promotion.

The best part is, if its gone on long long enough, the whole perceived benefits for women who participate could be very much real. I mean, sure, corporate and HR wouldn't be dumb enough to mark someone down on their annual reviews or raise requests due to failure to participate in a volunteer optional event, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't find some other excuse. Give it a few years to a decade of it being done, and I doubt any female wouldn't participate in it.
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>>10049232
remember a few threads ago there was the idea of Collar addiction for free women who where temporarily enslaved
Mainly it's the fact that having all the responsibility of life being taken away can become an additive type of "freedom"
It would be especially true for women working in a cooperate setting in this case
For a sort time they get all that daddy dom attention from her "master" and life become all about playing house and being a sex toy.
but before they realize it the time up and life is back to the souless grind at the office, but that dotted line for permanent enslavement is always there.
Waiting and tempting her to sign...
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>>10049991
>remember a few threads ago there was the idea of Collar addiction for free women who where temporarily enslaved
Mainly it's the fact that having all the responsibility of life being taken away can become an additive type of "freedom"

A little on the evil side, but I like the idea of collars acting kind of similar to nicotine patches on women (no effect on men), but less harmful than nicotine. When women put it on for the first time they get overwhelmed by this feeling. Soothing, yet invigorating but also highly addictive. As soon as her collar is taken off she doesn't get the breath of fresh air, and freedom she anticipated, but a strange craving to go back to how she was, for just a little bit longer, maybe one more day. She's very fidgety now, and only really feels sedated when she has the collar back on. Couple this with the aphrodisiacs her food was laced with, and how she had the best orgasms of her life whilst collared, and suddenly every part of her body is screaming at her to submit. I think it was the same reply chain that had the idea of women going there for gap years where it was marketed as a spirtual, "find yourself" experience which I liked. If people are interested I may do a writefag later on that idea where 2 uni students going there over summer before their final year, the more outgoing one signing them both up for it, with the shy one completely unaware, until their new Master comes to pick them up
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>>10050020
>collars acting kind of similar to nicotine patches on women
>Soothing, yet invigorating but also highly addictive
Besides the physical effects of the enslavement (aphrodisiac, sex, comfort and etc) a big part of it is the phycological effect it has on women.
Once the collar goes on all the worries about normal life are suddenly lifted as she submits to her master and it's all about waiting from the next dicking/cuddle time with master.
Larger harems make it like a "time out with the girls" but just that care free experience being 24/7 while the collar is on.
Basically it's a combination of physical and mental withdrawal that makes free women lust for getting enslaved for real.

>idea where 2 uni students going there over summer
On the topic of free women existing in a society where patriarchal enslavement of other women is just fine.
I'd like to think that slaves are the ones that get most of the love and attention from men while women without collars get cuckqueaned.
Like women have to trudge though life while watching slave girls taking it easy as breeders/sex toys.

>do a writefag later
Lots of good ideas in this thread too.
Plus older threads are archived below:
https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Patriarchy/
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>>10050056
>Besides the physical effects of the enslavement (aphrodisiac, sex, comfort and etc) a big part of it is the phycological effect it has on women.
>Once the collar goes on all the worries about normal life are suddenly lifted as she submits to her master and it's all about waiting from the next dicking/cuddle time with master.
That and her daily chores, but so long as her Master has ensured that he has a happy harem, then there's a big social aspect to the communal cooking, and cleaning etc.

>On the topic of free women existing in a society where patriarchal enslavement of other women is just fine.
>I'd like to think that slaves are the ones that get most of the love and attention from men while women without collars get cuckqueaned.
>Like women have to trudge though life while watching slave girls taking it easy as breeders/sex toys.
Women who reject their place serving the patriarchy are seen as rejecting their right to be treated like a woman, along with all the 'benefits' it entails
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>>10050169
>Master has ensured that he has a happy harem, then there's a big social aspect
That's also another angle that experienced masters use to develop collar addiction in temp slaves.
In their normal lives as free women they'll never experience the close sisterhood/loving family life that being in a harem gives.
It's just the cold daily grind of being a waggie (due to how sexism really limits a woman's opportunities).
So the longer her stay with the harem the stronger the social bonds get.
With some contracts even allowing temps to get knocked up, these being the gate way contracts where women get permanently enslaved from.

>rejecting their right to be treated like a woman, along with all the 'benefits' it entails
A big part of this is having free women measuring up to male work place standards without any sort of hand outs.
For the most part freewomen don't get very high up and the rare ones that do are always targeted for enslavement.
An other big part of it is that most many have 0 romantic interest in free women as getting harem girls from arranged marriages, auction and slave markets are the norm.
So theirs always a push for women to hurry up and get enslaved before their best years are gone.

Though for most women when they become legal adults they make the smart choice and sign enslavement contracts with their fathers or boy friends.
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>>10050198
>That's also another angle that experienced masters use to develop collar addiction in temp slaves.
>In their normal lives as free women they'll never experience the close sisterhood/loving family life that being in a harem gives.
>So the longer her stay with the harem the stronger the social bonds get.
Yeah couple that with additional restrictions women face, like not being expected to interrupt a man, or talk in male presence without permission/when spoken to. So Master's harem is ironically one of the places where she'll have the most freedom

>With some contracts even allowing temps to get knocked up, these being the gate way contracts where women get permanently enslaved from.
Default is that temps aren't worthy enough to bare sons, and any daughters born, or any pregnancies become property of the Master. If she wants to be involved with her daughter she has to submit, otherwise it will be raised entirely by Master and his harem.

>A big part of this is having free women measuring up to male work place standards without any sort of hand outs.
>For the most part freewomen don't get very high up and the rare ones that do are always targeted for enslavement.
>An other big part of it is that most many have 0 romantic interest in free women as getting harem girls from arranged marriages, auction and slave markets are the norm.
>So theirs always a push for women to hurry up and get enslaved before their best years are gone.
>Though for most women when they become legal adults they make the smart choice and sign enslavement contracts with their fathers or boy friends.
It's sold to them through their entire childhood, the day they're collared is the most important day in a woman's life, one she dreams about like irl girls do about their wedding.

>pic
Really cute how 2 is enjoying it, 3 is kind of shy and has attached herself to Master, and 1 is just there eagerly awaiting her turn
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>>10048572
>What are the cruelest things you want to do to the weaker sex?
Thoroughly indulge in my sadistic fantasies. She needs to be taught to enjoy spankings, having her nipples pinched and tugged, being sounded and having herself plugged. She should love being hobbled and gagged. All because I enjoy seeing her in discomfort and enjoying it. Every fuck should be a genuine struggle. Anal only unless I find a use for her cunt.

> How would you punish a troublesome female?
Enemas are a perfect way to do so. It provides a lot of discomfort, but it also allows them to simulate the size of a nearly pregnant belly when they're full. The best way to take an enema also involves having their stomach rubbed to prevent cramping and their tits stimulated both for pleasure and humiliation. It's part punishment, part bonding experience and part reinforcement of her lot in life.

Assuming a fantasy setting, they would also be supernaturally bonded with spirits, whether they be demons, angels or elementals to improve whatever attributes I want.

> What challenges would you set for an obedient ancilla?
There are few things that should come as a "challenge" in a properly trained woman's life. Maybe some societal conditioning so that just the act of becoming pregnant involves some horrible treatment and wide eyed terror. It's not like getting fucked in any normal manner, it should be memorable and discomforting to go through, even if master treats you well after.
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>>10050216
>Master's harem is ironically one of the places where she'll have the most freedom
On top of that women stuck working in dead end jobs mean that the pay isn't all the good either.
So expectantly they have little time for any relaxation, it's work, sleep, eat and repeat.
While your average harem girl is encouraged to pursue hobbies(music, gardening, cooking etc.)
House work with modern conveniences and the rest of the harem + older daughters mean there's free time.

>any daughters born, or any pregnancies become property of the Master
Side note, is that some women might rent their wombs out for men needing surrogates or if she's got good genetics.
The contract might be having her deal with the pregnancy herself or getting everything taken care of and living with the father.
But the best part is using women's own maternal instincts against them, the collar seems a lot more attractive to expecting mothers.

>day they're collared is the most important day in a woman's life
It's also ritualized as the only "truly free choice" women are given is to get enslaved once they're legal.
So for many it plays out like they're prince charming fantasies but the one that reject the collar are seen as black sheep.
This is why family life is non-existent for free women as they'll get disowned by their fathers.

>>10050272
>She needs to be taught to enjoy... having herself plugged
Personal fetish for me would be having pussies plugged after sex so all the cum stays in her cunt
Just have them go a few hours with fresh sperm sloshing around in her fertile womb
Give the bitch the best chance of getting pregnant
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>>10050320
>On top of that women stuck working in dead end jobs mean that the pay isn't all the good either.
>So expectantly they have little time for any relaxation, it's work, sleep, eat and repeat.
>While your average harem girl is encouraged to pursue hobbies(music, gardening, cooking etc.)
>House work with modern conveniences and the rest of the harem + older daughters mean there's free time.
The uncollareds also cook overly basic meals, microwave dinners, store bought pasta, or pizza etc.before Master took them in it's not just that they didn't cook/clean, but they didn't have the ability to do so either

>Personal fetish for me would be having pussies plugged after sex so all the cum stays in her cunt
>Just have them go a few hours with fresh sperm sloshing around in her fertile womb
>Give the bitch the best chance of getting pregnant
That or have one of her sisters lap up your seed from her to clean her out
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>>10050320
>>10050336
>Personal fetish for me would be having pussies plugged after sex so all the cum stays in her cunt
>Just have them go a few hours with fresh sperm sloshing around in her fertile womb
>Give the bitch the best chance of getting pregnant
>That or have one of her sisters lap up your seed from her to clean her out

Hot.
Bonus points for the last one if the girl cleaning her out is being rewarded by the master for her performance while not actively being fucked.
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>>10050633
(obviously this is only if he's not actively trying to get the first girl pregnant)
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>>10050633
>Bonus points for the last one if the girl cleaning her out is being rewarded by the master for her performance while not actively being fucked.
I imagine for most people as they get older it would take a while to get hard again, but there's nothing to say you can't finger her whilst she's licking, even if Master didn't choose to fuck her, she will still get to taste his seed, and an orgasm from Master. She may not be his favourite, but life is still good for her
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>>10050272
>challenge" in a properly trained woman's life...
An other personals fetish is having women conquer the difficulty of pregnancy it's self along with the struggle of giving birth.
There's few things a man is more proud of then owning an experienced breeding bitch.
Her body sculped over multiple pregnancies, twins/triplets are no problem for her
She's your very own fertility goddess

>>10050336
>one of her sisters lap up your seed from her to clean her out
Also due to how culturally pregnancy/harems are seen as healthy part of both men and women's lives.
It's rare that women are allowed to drink cum given that it's unfair for her sisters that are still trying to have a baby.
So women treat it like a very special reward from their master to actually get to taste his cum, mostly done when the harem is already knocked up.
Or if she was a very good girl that day.

>>10050648
>finger her whilst she's licking
An other thing to note is that in a harem setting girl on girl is a seen as a healthy for of love between a man's wives/slaves
Even to the point that being bi-sexual is considered almost the default for women.

>as they get older it would take a while to get hard again
This also the reason why any sort of birth control is extremely rare and even socially looked down on.
For the man it's shameful as it's seen as mocking yourself for having genes not worthy of passing on.
While women see it as a message that she displeased her master to the point that she's no longer worthy of even giving him daughters.
So woman with about a dozen kids (6ish is "normal") is a great achievement and a man having a few dozen over his lifetime is a mark of pride.
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>>10050788
See some of this i like:
>one of her sisters lap up your seed from her to clean her out
>Also due to how culturally pregnancy/harems are seen as healthy part of both men and women's lives.
>So women treat it like a very special reward from their master to actually get to taste his cum, mostly done when the harem is already knocked up.
>Or if she was a very good girl that day.

>finger her whilst she's licking
>An other thing to note is that in a harem setting girl on girl is a seen as a healthy for of love between a man's wives/slaves
>Even to the point that being bi-sexual is considered almost the default for women.

But this i disagree with:
>This also the reason why any sort of birth control is extremely rare and even socially looked down on.
>For the man it's shameful as it's seen as mocking yourself for having genes not worthy of passing on.
>While women see it as a message that she displeased her master to the point that she's no longer worthy of even giving him daughters

Ultimately a man's job is to care for his whole harem. All of his women. And if he's taking on more than he can meaningfully support, he is intentionally doing less to care for them. THAT i think is what society would look down on.

Instead, pregnancy should be a reward, for the very best of behavior. It should be something a woman should strive for, rather than something to be looked down on if they're not yet pregnant.
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i shouldn't be reading this thread while doing a nofap for the month. holy shit.
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>>10050867
Honest question. Why are you here right now?
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>>10050882
Well, uh ... happy belated birthday? Perhaps turn that sexual frustration into writing or sports or something. Not sure how else I can advise you.
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>>10050890
i've been doing pushups everytime i get a boner to get a proper outlet. 2 sets of 5, i think it's how you say it, i don't go on /fit/ neither am i anything close to it.
now for a little contribution to the thread. i think denying a woman of their monthlies is the biggest praise and reward any pet would get. a woman is happiest when they're pregnant and staying constantly pregnant should be the ultimate goal for all of them.
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>>10050862
>more than he can meaningfully support, he is intentionally doing less to care for them
Was thinking of a post scarcity type deal for men in some sci-fi/high fantasy type deal.
But if your worried about it in a more grounded setting then men could plan pregnancies and raise their young in sets.
Such that daughters are old enough to help/are legal so you can sell them off.

>pregnancy should be a reward, for the very best of behavior.
What about also making it so a woman being allowed to have sons is the highest reward.
While daughters is for women who've proven they're good slaves but not quite matriarch material.
And other women are either kept in chastity or it's anal only.
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>>10050898
Do other things too or your going to look dumb when you have passable arms but chicken legs
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>>10050928
>more than he can meaningfully support, he is intentionally doing less to care for them
>Was thinking of a post scarcity type deal for men in some sci-fi/high fantasy type deal.

I was sort of thinking of a more grounded setting. There's a lot more that i would do with something higher though...
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>>10043044
Vaginal chastity could be used as a status signifier. Girls who haven't earned the right have to stay chastised, and have to serve with their other holes.
It's culturally drilled into them that anal sex is degrading, but also all woman are anally fucked on a regular basis to keep them in their place.
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>Remember there's no such thing as rape if you own her!
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>>10052304
I like the idea that it's considered impossible for a master to rape his slaves both because slaves aren't legally human and because slaves get so overwhelmingly horny for their masters that it's not really possible for him to do anything to them that'd be against their will.
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>>10050928
>>10052361
>slaves aren't legally human
I think it's less about making it so women aren't legally human but more that rights are gender based.
Something like men's rights being like IRL, voting, self determination and so on.
But for slave women they have the right to be collared and care for by her master, protected from needless abuse, etc.

>slaves get so overwhelmingly horny for their masters that it's not really possible for him to do anything to them that'd be against their will.
On that point women should be raised without even understanding the concepts of consent or even that they have self determination.
From day 1 women are owned and guided by their fathers, once they grow up it's the husband(master) that holds the leash.
Never once are they expected to control their own lives, women are just permanently infantilized.
Let daddy handle it and you just get back to enjoying life as a slave.
And any "free" choices they have are either minor things like what to cook for dinner or completely symbolic like "willingly" accepting slavery when women become adults

>>10051580
>grounded setting. There's a lot more that i would do with something higher though
Personally I like the more out there settings because it's open to more ideas and it's 100% separated from real life.
It opens the door to things "normal" things like complete indoctrination of women to more out there stuff like brain chips for slaves
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>>10046132
Something for those women who do well as women.
Clothing, like everything for women, is a measure of punishment or reward, as determined by the man or master in their lives.
A poor woman, one who is good for little, will typically get only the basicmost things to wear. Things racy and raunchy like >>10045311, are the only things a woman can typically buy on her own initiative, to 'surprise' the man in her life.
A normal woman, and a good one, is like a walking, talking, thinking, feeling Ferrari. A good woman is the ultimate luxury commodity, and just as eager to show off their pedigree, as men are to see it. So you get stuff like >>10046132, that is dignified and modest as any clothing, so more empowering and more dignified then the above, but form hugging and undeniably feminine still.
The more appropriately they act and serve, the more dignified and modest clothing they will probably end up with access to from their master-figure, and freedom to wear.
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Memo of the day.

Reminder. Women, as a whole, require nearly twenty times the level of casual physical and emotional intimacy in everyday contacts as men, just one of many reasons for their place in the social orders.
To manage their urges and needs, it is important that girls are taught, by teachers or by parents, the appropriate ways to greet each other, for the sake of their own emotional health.
While there are many faster, flightier ways, the conventional accepted process is to match up to the partner, and hug.
Again, however, this can often be poorly performed, possibly by observation of male role models, leading to lowered intimacy, and consequent health problems and social complications, compounding the issue.

The accepted, recommended way to hug, is for both parties to face each other, belly on belly, hip to hip, chest to chest, and maintain eye contact. Arms should typically be wrapped gently around each others' waists with hands over the hips or ass, though placing ones hands on the hips, ass, back, breasts, neck, face, hair, or interlocked with a partners hands is not unheard of and is situationally appropriate.
Particular emphasis should be placed on ensuring contact between more sensitive, feminine body parts, and bare skin on skin.
Nude intimacies and first greetings are unmatched for level of intimacy obtained.
Both parties should be able to feel each others heart rates, breathing, and finer body motions as well, and may notice they unconsciously synchronize.
It is recommended that this is held for no fewer then four seconds, though situationally, it can be longer.
The dominant female of the pairing should then initiate closer intimacy, pulling their partner closer, controlling their actions, teasing or sexually stimulating their partner, verbally or physically, or getting their partner emotional, before kissing.
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>>10052895

Kissing may take many forms, but typically starts out as multiple small and feathery kisses to the face, and evolves into longer, deeper kisses with the mouth. Usage of the tongue for extra intimacy may be reserved for masters, but is typically recommended for girl-on-girl.

The whole process of greeting should last at least ten seconds in total, but may last longer if both parties choose, or dominance takes longer to settle. The process should only be ended once both parties have established the dominant partner, and the dominant partner feels there is no more effective intimacy to gain, or effective entertainment from their actions.

As this process is both critical to female psychological health, but also moderately complex, it is recommended that girls be introduced to the proper process early on, at every step of their life, to build good practices and behaviors. We especially recommend this be practices between female members of family, to its fullest, between mother and daughter, or between sisters. We recommend instilling the practice of regularly bathing together, nude, early on, to form this deep intimacy between family members, and introduce girls at a young age to the concept of a matured, ideal woman.
If you find yourself in an environment lacking in that critical emotional intimacy, be the first to instill change. While the full, recommended practice may encounter cultural shock, introducing the practice in stages will have a noticeable effect on your female friends and colleagues.

Until next time, when we bring you more advice on mentally, physically, emotionally and socially healthy living as a woman.
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>>10052895
>>10052898

And remember, a happy harem means a happier master
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>>10052828
>Things racy and raunchy... only things a woman can typically buy on her own initiative
Also I think that collared women having "freedom" would only be in ways like this.
Inside the household it's the harems own little word where the only choices a woman can and needs to make.
Are in regards to how to serve her master.
"What should I cook for daddy?", "How do i get him to bed me?" and etc.
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Toys for the harem for while you're gone. Yes or no?
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Memo of the day, special edition.

Congratulations. You, along with your classmates, have been chosen as prime candidates for an experimental early relationship group to assess psychological development of male-female interactions, development of maturity, and innate divides.

Now, typically, this kind of ownership is given to older students, at around the ages of 17-18, with limited, but varied interactions between multiple boys and girls beforehand.
Because of this, you are unlikely to have been exposed to the realities of women, in nature, social mannerisms, schooling or had time to develop proper handling practices or appropriate conduct. As such, you should read this manual through thoroughly.
Owning a woman, while often greatly enjoyable, is a process requiring a great deal of responsibility and maturity, and it is up to you, as the man, to take care of her, and manage her daily activities, state of being, and final years of schooling.

To start, it is important you are aware of the different realities between male and female life. As women are incapable of the same heights of performance or self-success as men, and are well known to be incapable of effective self-management, womens education focuses on giving them the tools and assets they need to enjoy a higher quality of life with this given. As such, they will not be versed in the rigors of male education or high stress activities, and feature a deliberately empty day schedule. So, while women do learn many things to make life convenient or easier on both her and you, it is highly irresponsible and immoral to hold a woman under your care, to the same standards of performance or self management. Doing so is a significant cruelty, and a violation of law around the proper or appropriate treatment of taken women. You do not just receive the rights to ownership of a woman, you must prove and maintain that right. That is your duty as a man and a master.

See other side
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>>10054160
For the finer points of managing, that is left to your choice, but for the manner of ethics, we will give you this basic overview.

As you well know, men and women think and act differently in many ways. Specifically, women are incapable of effectively managing themselves or making decisions to ensure their own happiness in the same way as men.
As such, women are raised and taught to be obedient and listen to the instructions of men, or of dominant figures in their lives, and female schooling features lengthy periods of no compulsory activity, to allow them to socialize, discover themselves, and condition them to obey instructions.
For you, this means you will be needing to often constantly make decisions for your woman. This will include large decisions like participation in projects or events, down to small choices like what underwear she should wear.
Making all these choices is often greatly stressful to women, so she will very likely depend on you to make those choices for her. If you feel you are bogged down with questions, giving her a series of predictive answers for choices she may face is advised. This encourages her to make some smaller choices herself, reducing stress on yourself and making her value your attentions more.
She will likely also build up stress from lack of instructions. It is advised that giving her orders, ones designed at appearance to fulfill your desires, will reduce this stress by making her feel more useful, and thereby validated as a woman.
Additionally, alongside managing her daily life and activities. You will also have the opportunity to manage her later education and both physical and mental development. This is an incredible opportunity, so it is advised heavily you make responsible use of it.

Unfortunately, as she is also younger then typical, she may present with a couple of more childish holdovers from youth. Typically, these behaviors are lost into adulthood, but you should be aware of them.
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>>10054175
>Competition.
Women, naturally, are incredibly socially and emotionally sensitive, and this leads to great deals of jealousy, competitive feats, and aggression. While girls are taught and conditioned to loose these traits, and managing these errant thoughts for their own happiness, they may build up over time, potentially leading to outbursts or issues. A close eye is required.
A common issue is pornography. Girls often get jealous over the levels of focus given to such, as it invalidates them, and we recommend a quick transition over to using her instead of other forms of stimulus. It is more enjoyable for you, and results in a far greater emotional state for her.

>Defiance disorders.
Very rarely, women may have the desire to independence. This is not unexpected, as women are also human, and the desire for independence is commonly tied to evolved survivability. While this desire is quickly trained out and removed in most cases, and most young girls know well academically the feeling is counterproductive and irrational, or morally, ethically or practically wrong or irresponsible, you may end up encountering a situation involving such an outburst.
This can be avoided beforehand with proper, appropriate management of your girl, but proper establishment of dominance, control, and then punishment is recommended if an instance of serious defiance presents itself. We also recommend that you contact one of the members of staff involved to report the incident and gain clarification.

Owning and possessing a woman is a great opportunity, a highly rewarding experience and beneficial to your daily life and happiness. However, it does have its responsibilities and requirements.
It falls to you, as the man, to ensure that your woman is cared for, maintained and kept well.
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>>10054160
>take care of her, and manage her daily activities, state of being, and final years of schooling.
>prove and maintain that right. That is your duty as a man and a master.
Love this, mainly for the fact that it's not just fathers that teach their sons about benevolent sexism but it's society as a whole.
The fact that ownership of women is something that men must earn is a perfect way of weeding out undesirables.
As in preventing the worst types of men from even being allowed to buy slaves.

>same standards of performance or self management. Doing so is a significant cruelty
Even better is building up women's self esteem for being good slaves instead of bullying them for being inferior to men
Positive reinforcement is always the best method of training.
As for women's education I'd think it focuses on stuff like home economics.
With the lewd stuff about sex slave training only happening for women after they're sold to their husbands.

>>10054175
>manage her later education and both physical and mental development
I'm thinking schools would have a first pick kind of rule regarding who a girl's master will be once she graduates.
Like it's the guy who's been training her that has priority listing
Ideally you want masters to have strong emotional bonds with their first slave.
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>>10054142
Trick question. You leave them so sexually satisfied that the very thought of independent sexual relief makes them sore.
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>>10054205
>The fact that ownership of women is something that men must earn is a perfect way of weeding out undesirables.
>As in preventing the worst types of men from even being allowed to buy slaves.
Well that's how you get harems anon.
The undesirables do not end up breeding and passing on their lack of good caliber, the good men get multiple women.
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>>10054160
>>10054175
>>10054195

>Is this strictly an at school thing, or is it a live-in ownership?
>How is it supervised? The boy's master? The girl's? The School?
>How much sexual contact is allowed, if any?
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>>10054205
>>10054207
>undesirables do not end up breeding... the good men get multiple women
In patriarchy it isn't just women that get affected by breeding programs, eugenic and etc.
Men also would be under even greater selection pressures and that's a good thing.
Harems would aid in the goal of creating ideal fathers and husbands.

>how you get harems anon.
Not just Harems but every man that passes the tests and is accepted as a master would practice polygamy.
Even if it's just a modest 3 wives or getting into hentai harem levels.
So long as he can support it men should be encouraged to have more slave wives and to breed them.
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I've always liked the idea of a patriarchy where women are forced to do all the jobs, but they get neither respect nor credit for service, on the contrary they are abused and sexualized while they do it, but they are so addicted to sex and so doltrinaires who are grateful and pursue this kind of bad treatment as a motivator for their lives. Something along the lines of work and sex giving meaning to their lives that they otherwise would not have meant.
This gets even hotter in my opinion when we add the idea that in this patriarchal society women would be expected to support men, pay for dating and maybe it was their responsibility to take the initiative to find a guy to marry (especially if they were willing to do anything to convince a man that they would make a good wife, actively submitting to any fetish for that, for example paying to enlarge her boobs because a guy she thinks might like her likes big boobs)
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imagine the following scenario, we have this nerdy girl interested in seducing some guy, she then overhears a group of boys talking about an MMORPG they are playing, immediately she starts playing the same, but as she is a woman the game is much more difficult, in fact unfair in many parts and pure misogynist pornography in others, but this only makes her more motivated by the game itself, when she manages to reach a high level she finally goes to the guys she heard talking about the game and showing off their levels , items and status calls them to her house to play, but actually what happens is that she spends all night tied up, gagged and getting fucked by the guys who make several videos and take several pictures posting on the girl's social networks, besides Furthermore, they take turns in the game to loot and vandalize the girl's account until she has lost everything. And the best part is that she is completely loving the whole experience and as soon as she gets rid of the ropes she will start playing again to convince the boys to come back for another round.
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>>10054585
>Is this strictly an at school thing, or is it a live-in ownership?
Flexibility to be either. The female partner will typically go to school and is expected to maintain certain contacts, as is the male, but the rules are deliberately designed to allow the boy to instruct the girl to live with him. Given its an optional feature, getting ordered to live with your man is considered empowering, as it shows your worth and desirability, so bear this in mind.
>How is it supervised? The boy's master? The girl's? The School?
Traditionally unsupervised. The briefer hook-ups have more supervision effectively, but the ownership of your first woman is left mostly unsupervised. This is an assessment of personal maturity, and many new masters are uncomfortable discussing their activities. You may be asked to report occasionally so we can monitor progress or outcomes, but this will be infrequent and irregular.
>How much sexual contact is allowed, if any?
Any and as much as you desire. Go wild. This program is designed to instill maturity in conduct to women, and the appropriate behaviors in men and women. As a part of this, you will have near total control over her activities, practices and daily life and freedom to instruct her in any way you see fit. Just remember, while you have an entirely free reign over her, you do not exist in an isolated bubble, and others, with deduction, will be able to determine what has been happening and how you treat her.
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>>10054872
2 further questions then:

1. How long would this last? The rest of their time at school together?
2. Why would a man allow his daughter to participate in something like this? What incentive is there?
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>>10055355
>1. How long would this last? The rest of their time at school together?
Effectively, this ownership lasts for the single year, where it will be reviewed. If you have been deemed suitable, this relationship can last to the end of your schooling tenure, and beyond. This is often common, due to the close bond forged over time, the relative lack of safety as a woman leaving schooling without a master, and the customized nature of the graduating woman, though it is ultimately up to the man.
>2. Why would a man allow his daughter to participate in something like this? What incentive is there?
Make no mistake, schooling for girls above the age of ten is entirely non compulsory. The workload from then on is vastly reduced, and is mostly all optional classes to participate in anyway. However, this schooling allows girls to polish their skills, discover interests, develop into womanhood alongside other girls, form large social groups, learn how to act as a woman, become exposed to the world in a safe manner, and a host of other things very beneficial to their lives. Though homeschooling girls from their mothers is appreciated, the girls education system is a system of professionals who are committed to ensuring that women can live their best, most satisfying, and happiest life possible. This stage of cross school interaction is a standard (and often exciting) part of their schooling. Parents do have contact with male students, allowing fathers to vet their suitability to give or deny their permission to their daughter, and mothers to assess and advise their daughters with personal experience on how to best please them.
Hence why it is typically later that such transfers occur. So that the father can recognize more that the boy is inexperienced, but earnest and willing to take such responsibility over their daughter.
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>>10050272
Thank you
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Memo of the day. Collars.

The way a woman is signified as taken in society does differ, but the most common method is by the sporting of a choker or necklace or some other kind of symbolic collar.
The choker collar is typically given in stages, with the most elaborate and final after marriage, and many different designs feature. Here are our recommendations on the subject.
>1. Style
As she is likely to be wearing this collar for much of her life, one should pay mind that it is a style suited to her, and matches her looks and station.

>Features.
Since the collar is to her a symbol of your control over her, the inclusion of some features is reccommended. Though it may bulk out the collar, the increased intimacy is considered to be worth it, as the ability to influence her from a distance in such an easy and intimate manner lets her know you're thinking of her, and are able to easily and comprehensively control her, bringing her greater peace of mind.
We recommend the addition of an inflator cuff, to cut off or limit her air, a low level shock tazer for disciplinary or excitation measures, and a signal link to whatever set of vibrators may be in her clothes as a measure of reward, and to let you find her location if she goes missing. This gives you an easy, long distance system to restrict, punish, and reward her, letting her know intimately that your reach and control over her is limited by nothing, which brings her peace of mind, and no small amount of personal pleasure.
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>>10056110
Today we open the floor up to questions.
What would you like to see in the Memo of the day? Do you have any questions, male or female, that wish for answering.
Send your inquiries and we may answer them.
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>>10056112
My son has always been the shy and quiet sort. Even when his sisters and mother prostrated themselves for him, he was more likely to run away then to properly guide them. He will soon be old enough to take one of his female classmates as his own. How should I handle this problem?
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>>10056362
This is quite a common thing with some young men, especially in regards to mothers, but is not uncommon in sisters, especially if the excitable or outgoing type. Typically it comes from the previous familiarity of a different life roll system, where previously a mother, or older sibling would have seemed more impressive or mature then himself, and the progression to such dictation, even with model submissive sisters or mothers, feels unnatural or incorrect.
He is likely used to a different, more level dynamic, hence the idea of prostration or an unequal control dynamic is difficult for him.

Fortunately, this is relatively easily fixed, as it is only a major issue for family members or those with whom he's shared a lot of time with and has developed personal conceptions about.
In school, he'll end up taking a female student, with whom he has no such prior relationship, and who herself is well trained and educated into proper gender rolls, so past initial awkwardness's, their relationship will be built from the start on that unequal control dynamic.
It is often also a sign, if young men are apprehensive about controlling their mothers or ordering them, as it's a sign of greater emotional and social awareness, and means in later life, with more experience, he's likely to be a model member of society, and very invested in his duties as a man. All that remains now is to allow him to explore the nature of women, make mistakes, and learn from them.
Hopefully this helps your query.
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>>10055605
>entirely non compulsory. The workload from then on is vastly reduced, and is mostly all optional classes
I was thinking in these years they're trained in skills that would make them better wives/slaves.
Home-econ, music and arts, easy stuff that leaves women care free. After all they're not expected to work real jobs.
Reaching adulthood along side her master means sexual training and breeding starts.
hopefully her master passes the test and gets to keep her.

>>10056110
>inclusion of some features is reccommended.
My personal pick would be a biometrics system for the collar that also links up to a phone/PC app.
It's an even more creepy level of control monitoring even her down to the last calorie.
Seeing as how the goal is to infantilize women, she doesn't even need to worry about diet

>>10056112
What's considered the norm for breeding?
Like is it a man and his harem or is it like farms mentioned in past threads
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>>10056651
>I was thinking in these years they're trained in skills that would make them better wives/slaves.
>Home-econ, music and arts, easy stuff that leaves women care free. After all they're not expected to work real jobs.
>Reaching adulthood along side her master means sexual training and breeding starts.
>hopefully her master passes the test and gets to keep her.
Typically these schools do feature a wide range of such things. They are there to give women their best chance at their best possible life.
The thing is, none of them are compulsory, relying on social pressures, desire to be obedient and follow instructions (any they can get at that stage), and personal desire to succeed to get participants, alongside being considerably lower in effort, time use, or pressure. This means that while young girls will do things at school, none of it is technically compulsory, so when they get a master, they can spend their time according to his wishes.

>My personal pick would be a biometrics system for the collar that also links up to a phone/PC app.
>It's an even more creepy level of control monitoring even her down to the last calorie.
>Seeing as how the goal is to infantilize women, she doesn't even need to worry about diet.
This is also a popular, if expensive, piece of kit. Eating and bodyweight are one of the more major stresses that women put on themselves, and one many struggle to deal with without education.

>What's considered the norm for breeding?
>Like is it a man and his harem or is it like farms mentioned in past threads
Depends entirely on your family or local culture. Men and women aren't animals, and it's left up to you as a person how you want to treat them.
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>>10056651
>>10056710
>relying on social pressures, desire to be obedient and follow instructions
Conformity and obedience of women is easily enforced via social pressure
Which is why harems/school clubs are so important you want women to self enforce sexist standards on each other.

With that in mind what's media like for women(Tv, books, moves, etc)?
Thinking that for men it's almost like IRL, with a bit of pro-daddy dom propaganda.

Also would there be Pro-slavery radicals in your society?
People who organize stuff like illegal enslavement of foreign women, roofies operations etc.

>Eating and bodyweight are one of the more major stresses that women put on themselves
Personally I love the idea of pushing Phys-ed + diet on women to make them /fit/
Not for that silly "strong independent gal" ideal, but your creating the perfect sex fiend to keep up with master's sex drive.
On top of that she'll be a good healthy mother and the fact that this is all managed by master make's women's lives even more simple.

>Depends entirely on your family or local culture
Paternalism/harems would he a norm and ideally men install implants on their slave's wombs.
Controlling fertility and birth ratios, specifically keeping a hentai ratio so 2-3 wives is the minimum for family size.
No need for cruel breeding farms if men are having a few dozen daughters.
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>>10057193
Goddamn she's make a lovely breeding queen to build a dynasty of tallish half-gingers with.
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>>10057193
>lovely breeding queen to build a dynasty of tallish half-gingers with.
Friendly reminder that historically pro-native/Pro-breeding patriarchies are fine with race mixing so long as it's a man conquering foreign women.
Keep in mind that in Rome slave women from Germany and Britain where very popular as exotic slaves.
Some even becoming the favorites of their masters...

>>10056112
How does your society answer the question about abortion/birth control(outlawed or up to master/medical professionals)?

What's the legal status of women(sub-human, pets, treated like children, etc.)?

Are most women Born into slavery or captured then broken?

What's the setting (Modern, Fantasy, Sci-fi, Based in reality, etc.)?
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>>10057488
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>>10057488
>>10057491
It helps with assimilation; your example of Rome is excellent there. A bit of exotic flavor, especially of the fair, freckled, and blue- or green-eyed variety, is delightful.

>img
A favored breeding queen like her would be an excellent asset to be shared among trusted friends on special occasions. The other version of the image, the family's best dog would also be allowed to indulge from time to time, fostering greater loyalty and nurturing the protective instinct for both the breeding queen and her children and for the family as a whole.
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>>10057589
>exotic flavor, especially of the fair, freckled, and blue- or green-eyed variety, is delightful.
Hence the reason why most foreign women would be kept as slaves by upper class men.
Or in other cases they're given to soldiers as the spoils of wars, while enslavement companies run raiding/black bag operations to get them.
It's fairly easy to erase a woman's social media profile or make it seem like she never existed in the first place.
All while she's spending her days being brain washed into being a happy slave.

>favored breeding queen like her would be an excellent asset to be shared among trusted friends
Foreign women would be seen as below native born women in some ways.
For example it's socially acceptable to use them as whores just as you say "shared with friends", and it wouldn't be seen as cuckoldry.
Other rules is that they are not allowed to birth sons with womb implants making sure of this.
Though it's not to say that they don't have "women's rights" and anti-cruelty protections similar to native women.
Just that the more /d/egenerate side of sexual slavery is where these women fit into the hierarchy.

>fostering greater loyalty and nurturing the protective instinct for both the breeding queen and her children
An alternative use for these women is to produce slave daughters for her master.
With the exotic aspects as a big selling point these 2nd gen women can sell for quite a pretty sum.
Though via breeding regulations and culture over time they'll be genetically assimilated into the native population.

Veni, vidi, vici.
Glory to the new Roman empire!
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>>10057488
>How does your society answer the question about abortion/birth control(outlawed or up to master/medical professionals)?
An embryo isn't a baby. It's a potential baby, but not a given, even in the best of circumstances. If you go by what could be hypothetically a baby, there's a lot of serial baby-killing teenage boys out there, and condoms are evil.
Abortion is fine. After a certain point, it's not exactly pleasant or medically available, but it's not verboten.
>What's the legal status of women(sub-human, pets, treated like children, etc.)?
Of those options, the closest is to children. Women are still humans, though typically gender rolls and realities dictate that women aren't men. Legally women can't vote, own certain objects or properties, make certain purchases, and a couple other things, because women can't be trusted to have the sense or awareness required for the stable maintenance or appropriate knowledge for such topics. But at the same time, women do typically have the rights to fair and benevolent treatment and handling, given the efforts they make, the social and personal pressures they face, and dealing with their inability to handle themselves without a man.
I'm sure if you look, there's enough girls out there who make a big thing about signing their rights as human women away as a show of total obedience.
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>>10058113

>Are most women Born into slavery or captured then broken?
Well we at Memo of the day would hardly call it slavery. It's no secret that women, genetically, socially and physically are inferior and less capable then men. But their education, to help them find their place and manage any of the many emotional issues wrought within their sex begins at birth, with the intimacy between mother and sisters.
Of course, occasionally you do get the odd wildling girl, who's grown up under the hard social pressures of trying to be a peer to men. Rehabilitation and introduction into society for them can sometimes be difficult, but it's for their own good, and 99.9% complete a fully successful integration.
>What's the setting (Modern, Fantasy, Sci-fi, Based in reality, etc.)?
Well, I'd call our society a pleasant postmodernist society. It's seen a little uptick of advancement in the scientific and technologic fields, and many others, since men stopped having to hamper themselves to help women pretend at equality, so that's a good thing.

You seem... unawares listener. My apologies, but if you happen to be a time traveler, I would advise you tell the scientific community how you managed this feat.
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>>10058113
>condoms are evil
What's the ideal family size for a man to rule over?
Given that some here are all about breeding while other see mating like bunnies a tad distasteful.

Also what's the male to female gender ratio like?

And how does that affect stuff like monogamy vs polygamy?

>women do typically have the rights to fair and benevolent treatment and handling
On that topic how is the buying and selling of women done(auction house, arranged marriage, "pet" stores, etc.)?

>>10058114
>Rehabilitation and introduction into society for them can sometimes be difficult
How are these fem-rehab centers run?
Like is it more of a prison type deal or style like a women's health retreat

And are these women treated any differently after they're rehabilitated(like an exotic oddity)?

>happen to be a time traveler
Ah something of that sort but more it's more like moving freely though space and time.
Visiting different realties and such but the end point of humanity is always patriarchy it seems.
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>>10056112
I guess you could for acceptable means of punishing disobedient women.

>>10056746
Taming exotic foreign women is seen as exciting, and their rarity makes them a good centrepiece, however kidnapping from outside the borders is illegal, as it can cause diplomatic disputes. So any Masters buying them knows they'll have to work fast to have her renounce her freedom, and win her over to the patriarchal way of life.

>>10057488
>Keep in mind that in Rome slave women from Germany and Britain where very popular as exotic slaves.
>Some even becoming the favorites of their masters...
Same with the Ottoman empire and white women

>>10058113
>Abortion is fine. After a certain point, it's not exactly pleasant or medically available, but it's not verboten.
I guess taken in some cases, but as the Master will already have a stay at home wife/harem, and the daughter can be sold when she's ready it would be heavily discouraged, and only done or needed in medical emergencies
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>>10058542
>kidnapping from outside the borders is illegal... have her renounce her freedom
There's always the option of having temporary enslavement of foreign women as a sort of "sex fantasy" vacation.
Like you pitch it as a chance for women to escape the stress and responsibility of normal life.
Then slowly collar addiction becomes a problem for them as they no long want to leave master's home.
Returning to "normal" life outside the patriarchy becomes harder and harder.
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>>10058567
Sometimes it's a gap year/over summer during uni thing, but older women also use it as a break from work. It's hard for them to remember the last time they were appreciated, and pampered like this, especially the last few days of the "holiday", the dread that she has to go back to her dead end job, her cramped apartment and the mortgage on it which still has a way to go, and hollow love-life, maybe she could just not go back and instead stay collared as Master's pet. There's not much she'd miss in her old life, and nothing that she'd need provided Master initiates her into his harem. Which reminds me:
Culturally how are key events in a woman's life celebrated, being sold to her first Master, giving birth to Master's daughters, a higher one for giving birth to Master's sons, and Master marrying her, and deeming her one of his wives?
Also what are the rules on these imported women, and seeing friends, family members? Is she allowed to go back visit her parents, provided she keeps her collar on, or is she not trusted to return having gone that far alone? Is it the same with younger female friends in her age bracket, or can they only visit by signing a temporary enslavement contract to her Master, like the one she signed that got her hooked on this life
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>>10058684
>appreciated, and pampered like this, especially the last few days of the "holiday"
Exactly a big part of it is allowing women to enjoy actually being women, instead of having to deal with being an office waggie
Suddenly they're transported into a completely new life and even have a new family along with it (harem slaves treat other women like sisters).
And it's not all about sex either with her free time she can choose to go after hobbies covering everything from music, art, etc.
Basically it's like being taken back to the care free teen age years.

>she could just not go back and instead stay collared as Master's pet
It's not a all at once kind of thing too, that would be too on the nose.
Temp contracts start off with "protections" for her rights as a free woman but it also limits things like sex or what aspects of her life she's still responsible for.
The longer the contracts the less things she needs to decide for her self, until eventually she'll sign the final contract.

>how are key events in a woman's life celebrated
It's done as a yearly ceremony so think a sexist version of women's day where slaves are given awards by their masters, paraded in front of the other women.
As for celebrations of births it's done by tattooing women with tallies and ceremonially raping them showing her complete submission to her master.
Things like marriage can be normal like IRL or as lewd as having her sucking off master's cock and marrying his dick.
Really how lewd things get is up to her master.

>rules on these imported women, and seeing friends, family members?
It's arranged between the master and the woman's former family, but usually it's limited to phone calls and them visiting her on holidays.
However a slave is never allowed to travel outside the nation without a male to accompany her usually the master or one of his sons
Men can visit her normally as they have the rights of a non-citizen male but all women inside the patriarchy must be enslaved.
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>Suddenly they're transported into a completely new life and even have a new family along with it (harem slaves treat other women like sisters).
I do like the sisterhood dynamic, although she did basic cooking, and cleaning before it's clear the other slaves are on a different level, she spent all her life pitying, and looking down on slaves, yet only now does she appreciate the talent involved. However instead of berating her for being much slower, like a couple of people at her office would do, they're always really encouraging of her attempts. There's also a contagious happiness to them that was absent in her office


>Temp contracts start off with "protections" for her rights as a free woman but it also limits things like sex or what aspects of her life she's still responsible for.
>The longer the contracts the less things she needs to decide for her self, until eventually she'll sign the final contract.
I mean the original contract would expire at the original end of her holiday, and if she wanted to go back she'd have to get a new contract, depending on how desperate she is to stay she can try and get a permanent one, or keep her collar one, try and sort out all the loose ends of her old life, and video chat her Master, or his harem(with Master's permission) obviously she will be kneeling during the video chat whilst Master is there
>However a slave is never allowed to travel outside the nation without a male to accompany her usually the master or one of his sons
>Men can visit her normally as they have the rights of a non-citizen male but all women inside the patriarchy must be enslaved.
I like that, the initial awkwardness when she has to introduce Master, or his son to her parents, if the son is born from another of his concubines then she will still view it as her son in a way, but her parents no doubt will. Alternatively her dad has to collar her mother to go visit her for the duration of their visit.
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Do any of you write? Would love to see this suff implemented into a actual story.
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>>10058935
>always really encouraging of her attempts. There's also a contagious happiness
This is one of the more subtle ways that harem life ropes in free women, it's the supportive social aspect of it
Slave women are taught the idea that self improvement is all done so they can better serve their master
It's a guilt/competition free environment where your harem sisters are always there to support you in being a better slave
Could be lewd things like the girls giving pointers on deep throating technique or more innocent stuff like helping you brain your hair.

>how desperate she is to stay she can try and get a permanent one
Large part of that is realizing how good it feels to be submissive.
Letting go of all the worries about normal life and having master take care of you.
A woman's ticket to paradise is simply opening her legs for master and accepting that collar.

>her dad has to collar her mother
For many masters that keep foreign women as slaves it's a make of pride showing her off to her own father.
Making sure to flaunt just how much of a pampered life she lives as part of his harem.

>>10059023
Every now and then we get some good green text stories.
it's mostly a A/Q type deal that ends up building a story/setting out of it.
There's a link to the archives in >>10050056
some past threads did have full stories in them.
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>>10059059
>It's a guilt/competition free environment where your harem sisters are always there to support you in being a better slave
That but also present whilst Master is fucking her sisters, to hold her sisters hand, and encourage her, or just so Master has additional breasts/butt cheeks to grope.
At the end when Master is finished, and her sister is curled up in a happy little heap then she'll provide a drink for Master, and a towel/plug for her sister

>Large part of that is realizing how good it feels to be submissive.
>Letting go of all the worries about normal life and having master take care of you.
>A woman's ticket to paradise is simply opening her legs for master and accepting that collar.
That's my favourite part, having somebody who has entrusted everything to you like that, they depend on you to protect them and make them happy

>>10059023
Not well, and when I do get going I tend to go way over the 2,000 character limit so I don't want to clog up the thread too much
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>>10059168
>Master is fucking her sisters, to hold her sisters hand, and encourage her, or just so Master has additional breasts/butt cheeks to grope.
Also think that sex would be treated as a group activity for a master and his harem to bond over, after all sharing is caring.
While sexual morals within the harem would be very lax, there's no shame in raping your girls in front of others.
And unless otherwise stated by master other women are welcome to join.
One on one sex might even be considered a rare privilege/reward for most women.

>Master is finished, and her sister is curled up in a happy little heap then she'll provide a drink
Side idea, but there could be a kind of orgy/buffet type event that men could host with just his harem or inviting over some friends + their girls.
Have food and beverage tables in the dining room with a few beds/couches set up around the house.
You can have a few rounds of sex then relax with snacks and go back for another round, use that refractory period as down time for some drinks
Neighborhood slave wives chatting while their sisters are getting "raped" other room, wholesome 18+ fun for every one!

>towel/plug for her sister
Patrician taste, keeping girls plugged and filled with sperm like in >>10050320
Is a perfect way for slave women to go about their day, carrying master's love inside them as they wait for another go.

>they depend on you to protect them and make them happy
That's the part of the patriarchy fetish aimed at a man's lizard brain.
Nothing better then owning a harem of obedient slaves and making sure they're spoiled pets.
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>>10058542
>I guess taken in some cases, but as the Master will already have a stay at home wife/harem, and the daughter can be sold when she's ready it would be heavily discouraged, and only done or needed in medical emergencies
Given the social pressures and perceptions on women, it's VERY rare for a girl to carry a child to second or third trimester and then need an abortion, and it's almost always medically required.
Typically most girls entering from school into a dedicated service, will have a child before 19 and will learn more with their own mother how to raise a child. In the rare, but not uncommon case of unprotected sex around 16 or so, where the father cannot be located, and the girl wants to carry the child to term, regardless of personal life impact, the girls family just takes more of a role in raising the child, typically the mother or older sisters, and coaching the new mother.
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>What's the ideal family size for a man to rule over?
As much as he wants, really. So long as he can manage it.
I've myself seen plenty of monogamous partnerships, with maybe one child, but I've heard of families with twenty-odd wives and two daughters each in some fundamentalist parts of the world.
So long as you can manage it all I guess?
>Given that some here are all about breeding while other see mating like bunnies a tad distasteful.
You may be confused with the different categories of women. Some women are particularly genetically favourable. Good genes, healthy, don't age much, strong, attractive. They're particularly more valuable as women, so they're given to men of good stock and heavily encouraged over their schooling life to constantly be pregnant once they hit eighteen. These children are raised by the government and by women unable or genetically unfavourable to give birth, and the couple receives compensation.
These 'broodmothers' typically enjoy a greater range of privileges and higher station then the average woman, and often get uncomfortable when going for longer then a week without being pregnant.

>Also what's the male to female gender ratio like?
Pretty normal. Slightly more women then men, via mortality rates spiking due to greater feats, pressures and daring's in men then women.
>And how does that affect stuff like monogamy vs polygamy?
Every few men out there don't really buy into women much, so there's fewer men looking to bother with dealing with a woman's problems and assorted issues. They just buy a broodmother to father some kids and otherwise go and do their own thing. This stacks with the higher male mortality and drastically lower female mortality. If you're looking to bother, you can reasonably expect 1-2 at minimum.
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>How are these fem-rehab centers run?
A mix of psychological, psychiatric, and emotional therapy, similar to how other self-destructive mental disorders are handled. Which is appropriate, as it's basically the closest thing, holding yourself to an unreasonably high standard that simple fate has prevented you from. Like convincing a paraplegic not to do the hundred meter hurdles. Bit of carrot, bit of stick. Convince her of the greater quality of life, show her and let her feel the benefits, punish (not unfairly) when she acts out. Let her socialize with other women, some normal volunteers, some staff plants, make friends. Eventually, mostly all come out the other side a lot happier and perfectly submissive. Some retain an independent streak, and often make good harem managers, or are good women for those in stressful or challenging occupations like police or emergency services.
>And are these women treated any differently after they're rehabilitated(like an exotic oddity)?
They shouldn't be, mostly. The ones with the maintained independent streak are a luxury good, in that they're rare and novel, but they're often harder to deal with for many.
>Ah something of that sort but more it's more like moving freely though space and time.
>Visiting different realties and such but the end point of humanity is always patriarchy it seems.
Well that's good to hear. It might not be philosophically just, but it's a structure that's kindest and most complementary to women.
Again listener, I must request, stop in at a University and tell them what you know. They'd be very thankful for it I'd imagine.
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>>10059023
Well I write a fair bit actually.
If anyone has any great suggestions, do give them and I'll see if inspiration kicks in.
Be warned, I don't do named characters or sex scenes well.
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>Side idea, but there could be a kind of orgy/buffet type event that men could host with just his harem or inviting over some friends + their girls.
>Have food and beverage tables in the dining room with a few beds/couches set up around the house.
>Neighborhood slave wives chatting while their sisters are getting "raped" other room, wholesome 18+ fun for every one!
Makes me think almost of the American Psycho business card scene
>The subtle thickness of her, let's see Paul Allen's wife etc.
You can also make it more enjoyable for the slaves as the men would no doubt compete on who can pleasure their women the most. Probably more, but the main three categories I can think of
>Walking naked across knotted rope. (I used to be able find loads of pictures of this, but now I can't seem to find any)
>Who can make theirs orgasm the first by fingering. The other men would inspect the woman's juices on her Master's fingers to make sure she didn't just fake it, then they would use a separate slave's mouth to wipe their fingers clean
>Slaves lie on their back, limbs raised in the air to give less traction, and Master fingers them. They writhe and squirm in delight at Master's touch, and at the end, they see which slave covered the most distance. Same ending here as the 2nd one
All the time, her sisters would be cheering her on, if you have any others you can think of then feel free to add them.

>>10059350
>Let her socialize with other women, some normal volunteers, some staff plants, make friends.
Do you see yourself as volunteer, looking after the welfare, and submissiveness of the girls, or demonstrating what the proper womenly behaviour is? Or a plant numbing away the girls resilience, and undermining any resistance they try to put up. If you formed a close bond with one, do you think you could persuade Master to foster her for a weekend, and eventually buy her.
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>>10042092
>I really like to think about the beginning of the transition.
This is my favorite part as well, to the point that my worldbuilding usually ends around there. The soft power grey areas around interactions with "free" women in a society that increasingly has no interest in them is the best. Women who were raised to be independent and view themselves as equals to men seeing their agency slowly eroded as the men in their lives extract more and more from them. Stuff like increasingly risque dress codes, normalization of sexual harrassment, etc.

>>10050020
>>10050056
the "nicotine patch collar" is a great idea for training collars. Once a girl hits a certain age (or maybe for a class in school) they're expected to wear a training collar (just like they'd wear a training bra). However, not only does the collar help acclimate them to the feeling of having something on their neck and being treated like a collared woman, but it contains a chemical that has mild mood boosting effects, which leads most girls to prefer being collared, even without the chemical.
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>The subtle thickness of her, let's see Paul Allen's wife etc.
Oh my God, she even has a brand.
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>>10059722
>This is my favorite part as well, to the point that my worldbuilding usually ends around there.
I think the domestication of women has the most going on, there's only so much you can do for happy stable life, Same reason why it's always harder to write from the Master's perspective, as he's never really being challenged.

Whereas the initial part has the jealousy when men flock towards the younger women who are willingly obedient, and the fear of being left behind. The slippery slope, and how they justify their increasing need for male validation.

>even without the chemical.
Sounds Pavlovian

>>10059470
I find it easiest having an A, and a B and trying to write from one point to the other and punctuating it with various ideas that other anons here said they like, do you dump it in pastebin, or something else?
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>>10059740
>I find it easiest having an A, and a B and trying to write from one point to the other and punctuating it with various ideas that other anons here said they like, do you dump it in pastebin, or something else?
I know how to write.
Yes. Pastebin.
If anyone has any ideas they'd want to see...?
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>>10059344
>encouraged over their schooling life to constantly be pregnant once they hit eighteen
Best part about this is it show just how completely different women's ways are thinking are.
Like being master's favorite cumdump or broodmother is something every young woman fantasizes about.
The very idea of becoming scientist or things like that are hated by women, they have 0 interest in pretending to be men

>twenty-odd wives and two daughters each
There could also be a sort of brand name when it comes to bloodlines.
Where some men have wives with well bred traits that make their daughters ideal slaves.
Thus this comparatively large scale breeding helps to supply local markets/auctions with high quality slave girls

Also what's your society's view on things like free/public use sex slaves?
Or is it only allowed for sex between a woman and her master.

>>10059624
>American Psycho business card scene
>The subtle thickness of her, let's see Paul Allen's wife etc.
Socially a lot of a man's status is tied to how well cared for his slave women are as well as their training and etc.
So exhibitionism and sex in a social setting is considered normal.

>any others you can think of then feel free to add them
A classic game are endurance tests, it's more of a man vs man type deal where men see how long they can last fucking their harem.
With women ending up fucked unconscious afterwards. Then there's also Fem v Fem type games like seeing who can milk the largest load of cum with her mouth, pussy and etc.
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>>10059344
>>10059350
What's religion like in this society?

>harem managers, or are good women for those in stressful or challenging occupations
How is life for these women and what privileges do they have over other slaves?

A few /d/egenerate line of questions:
What's sexual morals like(sex/nudity hidden or open)?

Is there a free/public use case of slave women?
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>>10060879
>A few /d/egenerate line of questions:
>What's sexual morals like(sex/nudity hidden or open)?
Physically, there's nothing illegal, but socially fucking in public is a bit of a faux pas because it's loud, sweaty, often doesn't look as good as you think, and is often obnoxious. Not every wife is a top-tier fertility goddess broodmother or bimbo trophy wife, and not every man is a ripped Adonis with bronze skin and good features. But off the side, or in alleyways is common, as are subtle shows of sexual contact. Typically disciplinary measures or minor services.
Socially, it's not an awkward topic. It's sex, it's a thing of fun and beauty, but it's a core feature of humans. You'll be taught about it early on, just like you'll be taught math or spelling or science. In years past I understand it was a bit of an awkward topic, but that was the past.
>Is there a free/public use case of slave women?
Depending on the master, some women might go out without collars or rings or jewelry that marks them out as taken or not available. Others might have jewelry to say she's owned, but is free to use.
Mostly though, you'd need to talk to their master before using their bodies. Otherwise it's abuse of property. This is but one of the many reasons one of the more academic or socially aware women feel such a strong desire to serve a master instead of live on their own.

Crikey, getting a lot of spacetime travelers this broadcast. Not that I'm complaining for having all you exotic listeners out there, but it's kinda odd.
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>>10060879
The hell was the point in deleting those posts? Get a grip jannies
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>Free use
Maybe reserved for women that won't turn, or as a trial for previously high-ranking women before she's deemed ready to serve, but not too much, as it undermines the idea of men bonding with his harem, and can make it harder to condition women into slavery if they can just be whored out like that. Getting Permission from their Masters first is a good line though

>>10061013
Yeah, it looked like standard lore stuff, no idea why it's gone
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>>10060890
>fucking in public is a bit of a faux pas because it's loud, sweaty... off the side, or in alleyways is common
Perverted Idea but there could be sex rooms/secluded areas as a standard part of building and public area design.
Like how IRL rest rooms are required part of the building. Given that sex is just seen as a normal part of life.
So it's easy to quickly pull a slave woman in there for a quickie or it's a place to discipline them.

>subtle shows of sexual contact
Is it something along the lines of just "casual sexuality"?
Like it's normal to be groping/fingering your women but actual penetrative sex is to be done off at the side.

>you'd need to talk to their master before using their bodies
Besides privately owned slaves there could be government/intuitionally owned women
Like there's a "office of sexual relief" which are just glorified whores but these women play an important role in preventing abuses of property.
They would also be part programs like helping the military both as whores for moral reasons or to breed strong soldiers as part of eugenics programs

Extra question but how are bastard daughters dealt with?
Like a free use slave has a random man's daughter in her belly, does her master just think of it as a future asset or sent to state orphanage, etc.

>>10061453
>Maybe reserved for women that won't turn
That way works too, perhaps for especially troublesome free women they're forced into it while they're being broken into slavery.
They see public use as a huge violation of their rights and it's a good way to break their will.
But for slave women that have "drunk the cool aid" they see public use as the 2nd best way to serve men.
While they aren't part of a harem she's still filling her role as good slave woman.

>no idea why it's gone
OOC moment but It was because both images where clearly western
it's one of those rules that's sometimes enforced and sometimes not
Just try not to dwell on it.
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The subtitle for this thread is ‘Daddy’s slave”, so does any anon here have anything to say on incestuous patriarchy?
>I know I may sound a bit like a gender studies major here, but
I can’t help but notice it’s not being brought up in this thread. What are people’s thoughts on incestuous relations here?
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>>10061905
Daddy in this context usually pertains to a woman's master being in the protective, guiding and loving role.
Hence patriarchy is best pictured as daddy dom and daughter.

>does any anon here have anything to say on incestuous patriarchy?
Incest wouldn't be encouraged or specifically discouraged, it's something that simply is a part of female slavery.
Legally speaking once she's an adult a man's daughter is no different from any other woman he owns.
She can be bought as sold like any other and he can do with her as he pleases (within legal bounds).
Given that there's a lot of pregnancy fetishism in society, I remind you that genetic modification is readily available at your local gene clinic.

>What are people’s thoughts on incestuous relations here?
This is entirely up to adult men how they deal with their slave women
If a young man want his mother as his first slave He'll have to get her owner (his dad) to sign her to him.
Besides how else do you think designer blood lines for slave girls came about?
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>>10061905
>I know I may sound a bit like a gender studies major here, but
>I can’t help but notice it’s not being brought up in this thread. What are people’s thoughts on incestuous relations here?

Really comes down to the setting. In a "modern-ish" kind of setting, it's probably still considered at least a social faux pas, maybe more.

If technology has advanced further into the sci-fi realm, and gene-therapy is a thing that can eliminate the genetic problems with it, who knows? It might even be encouraged, as a way to keep the men's gene-line intact. In those societies, a male-female set of twins might very well be set up to be together as they grow up and beyond
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>>10061905
Faux pas for men, but for women, considering it's either bonding, practice, preparation, or a matter of helping each other because they're never going to develop 'normal' self control or independence, it's pretty normal.
Mothers and daughters bathing together is pretty common. Recommended even. It vastly increases intimacy of bond, removes privacy, and exposes the daughter to what adult womanhood looks like at a young age.

Similar with sisters. Deeper displays of physical affection, practice kissing, or practicing sexual acts on each other is not unheard of. It deepens bonds, lets them practice, and have a bit of fun. There's no penetration, and no fertilization, so in reality it's just girls version of physical play or roughhousing.
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>>10061905
I once had a fetish for mother/son incest way back when my sexual tastes amounted to 'up the bum, no baby'. Nowadays I don't have much of an appetite for incest at all, let alone daddy play. Call it paternal instinct and a belief that it's best for men to venture out instead of falling for the safety and security of the close and familiar, especially when it's at the girl's expense.
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>>10061977
>>10062012
>gene-therapy is a thing that can eliminate the genetic problems with it, who knows?
Ideally it's this because it removes the biological issues with incest.
Hence it's purely up to culture/individual choice of the men as to how they treat their female relatives.

>men's gene-line intact.. male-female set of twins might very well be set up
If your aiming for pure blood breeding or any sort of lasting genetic effects on women.
Then incest and inbreeding is practically required, much like how it was done with dogs IRL.
Some approach can be used to create ideal mates.

>>10062053
>no penetration, and no fertilization, so in reality it's just girls version of physical play or roughhousing.
For girl on girl yes, it's seen as healthy that they develop sexually towards other women, after all they need to learn to get along with her future harem sisters.
While brother sister relations is seen as just boys being boys and they're expected to develop self control/grow out of it.
As for actual sex girls are expected to remain vaginal virgins till they're married/sold off,
But this also means that brothers/fathers might take her cherry if they want to keep her in the family.

>>10062066
>close and familiar, especially when it's at the girl's expense
It's not exactly at the girl's expense, men in general are expected to take a paternal like treatment of their slave women
Whether she's sold to her prince charming or kept as daddy's/Onii-chan's set pet, women are still pampered and loved
If anything keeping a sister/daughter is more of a burden on the men of her family as they aren't making money off her sale
But this could also mean that it might be a way to flex on others showing that your wealthy enough to keep your daughter as your own slave
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>What's the type of woman your society aims to create?
There are three types of women that exist.
1: "pure" woman.
Looked highly upon, these women serve one purpose, to become the perfect wife.
They are given school education, but are paired with a male partner who was chosen specifically to be the one who would be most aroused by that woman's body.
The woman would then be given orders to become the type of wife most desired by their partner, e.g made to work out if they prefer musclegirls, ect.
They are not allowed to choose their own partner, and having sex with any other man is a crime punishable by prison, slavery, or death.
This includes rape.
They have to work hard, but if they di they may end up being seen as a good pet, worthy of being in the same room as men, but never ok the same level.

2: sluts
Sluts drop out of regular school to instead focus solely on how to please as many men as possible.
They are instead taught all they need to know about how to fuck, fetishes ect.
Though they are never ever remotely considered citizens, it even worthy of being called human, they are also not as strictly bound to the same laws, as they serve any man they will not b punished for being raped, as that is their duty.
They may be punished for refusing sex, but usually the worst that could happen is amputation of limbs to prevent fighting back, which is easy to avoid by just letting themselves get raped.
An easy life, but hard to live well as access to a nice household isn't easy, and they aren't viewed as human, technically.

3: objects.
Pure women who chest or get raped, or sluts who are too in the way for their own good stop being considered living beings altogether.
Their value it instead calculated by their organs, meat, hair and other items that could be processed off of them.
If their lucky, they may live a few extra months if demand for their byproducts is low, but that mostly means bring shoved in a dark, cramped space until their parts are needed.
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>>10062498
>sex with any other man is a crime punishable by prison, slavery, or death.
>This includes rape.
Pushing women for getting raped/sleeping around implies that they have actual agency and the ability to control their own actions.
And we all know this to be untrue, women lack the higher level thinking to comprehend their actions fully.
Much like how a dog's behavior is blamed on it's master same goes for wives, you simply need to train your slaves better.
Besides there's a chastity belts why are as common as a slave collar.
As for rape this is clearly an issue of property crime between two men, if someone stole your wallet you don't toss it in a fire when you get it back.

>may be punished for refusing sex
Relating to previous point, this seems like it would basically be a non issue.
After all a woman's animal like lust for sex and being dominated is a natural part of every woman.
With a wife's training in "self control" being the only thing that sets them apart from the majority of the female population (whores).

>they aren't viewed as human, technically.
Feel like such a description or it is rater vague.
In that women for the most part are treated like pets, they don't have any rights/freedoms but all their wellbeing and behavior is the responsibly of her master.
They exist to be happy little toys for men to fuck/breed, but at the same time men being sadistic would be viewed with disgust.
Kicking puppies is something everyone hates.
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Memo of the day: For those who find themselves spending too much time making their girl happy.

Women mean nothing.

Now this is not to say that women do not deserve basic fair treatment, but it is to say that women, quite specifically, are not important.
It is an unfortunate quirk of biology and emotion that forces this, but there is no stage or event in life in which anything done or performed by a woman alone will be of any importance or significance. The best chefs are men, men are responsible for selecting, and breeding her. At every turn in jobs or sports she, along with any woman, will perform far worse then any man, often any boy, in the sport by simple nature of their sex, and their inability to reach those same mental or physical heights of performance.
The closest thing a woman has to something of importance is in raising children, and even then, only the girls, who simultaneously aren't important in any way, shape or form. Because only men know how to raise boys into men.

And she knows this too. She's been raised in the way to give her the best life possible as a woman, and she's aware that nothing of hers is in any way, shape or form, important. She's never going to make an impact, never leave a legacy, never change anything. All her chances to do something, something of import, come through you.
Her very nature of being, revolves around pleasing you and aiding you, the man, in achieving your goals and actions of importance. Her own interests and whims are self-destructive, and will only hurt her inside, and she knows this is something she cannot control. So her chance at life, full of important things and chances to bring good change and leave a legacy, all come through abandoning her own self-harming ideas, and working to help you bring about yours.
Giving her free reign and nothing to do and no part to play will make her anxious and stressed, as will too much care and service of her, for reasons that should be obvious.
As always, call-ins are open.
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>>10061905
A few notes:
>Would probably be discouraged, incest is objectively bad
>Mothers/sisters would probably make for good top slaves as they would be kinda loyal
>Mothers/sisters would probably make for really fun bottom slaves if you don't get along with them and I can absolutely see a guy that had a terrible relation with his mother/sister having like 50ish slaves being ordered to, with strapons, continuously fuck the family member for a entire day straight
>Even if enslaved, family members would probably be held in higher standard
>A mother being gang raped by her daughters with strapons is hot
>Its even hotter if the daughters are told their mother will be sold to a famous hardcore BDSM fan if they don't do it
>Its even hotter if the mother is not told that and is put in a armbinder
>Its even hotter if the dildos are really big
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>>10063956
>find themselves spending too much time making their girl happy
Think the main way of keeping women happy is keeping them busy and sexually stimulated
A big part of slave training for young women is teaching them to enjoy serving their master
But the tasks you give her should be easy enough that she can't fail at it too badly.
Cooking, cleaning and other domestic work aside from her duties as a breeder/mother.

>free reign and nothing to do and no part to play will make her anxious and stressed
Best part of this is that this means slavery for women isn't just something enforced socially or by physical things like smart collars.
It's something that's been so ingrained in them that they mentally can't handle freedom.
They're so used to having a man protecting and managing their lives that if a woman where to be "rescued(kidnapped)".
She'd start having panic attacks or depression if she isn't returned to bondage.

>something of importance is in raising children, and even then, only the girls
>never going to make an impact, never leave a legacy
Being a good breeder/ mother would be a woman's biggest contribution to society and this isn't something that can be under played.
It could be something like how Spartans did it where only mothers where given the privileges of a full citizen.
Or how in some IRL cultures women with many children get social praise and etc..
Basically the idea is that women are worthless when they larp as men, but as a slave that's where society values her.

Also memo anon what's your take on the incest given all the replies to >>10061905
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>>10064210
Women's contribution as seedbeds for children is still not something they can do of their own will. It takes a man to impregnate them, and a man to raise a boy.
Her having children is seen by some cultures as the ultimate recognition of the rightness of giving up on her desires to serve the more meaningful ones of her mans.

>Incest.
Again, nothing that the mother or daughters do is important. Sex, proper sex, is something only men have the 'equipment' to initiate. Taking a girls virginity with a strapon is going to devalue her, so mothers/sisters probably aren't going to do that, but everything else is free game. Nothing they do themselves matters, and they can't have kids. Nude physical exposure, practice kissing and cuddling, and bringing each other to orgasm or to heat is arguably healthy for intimacy and learning.

For men it's more a mixed bag. Men can actually get women pregnant, and men's choices matter, so it's something of an awkward topic, being both considered a faux pas, and something that they're perfectly allowed to do if they deem it right.
In certain situations, like a mother/daughter accidently being too intimate and leading on a son, or a daughter being too bratty in a sense, requiring a brother to intervene.
In some cultures, it's entirely accepted, but in more cultures sustained incestuous relationships are subtly frowned upon.
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>>10061905
For me, incest would be expected of daughters if the father chooses. She's his property, after all, and it better prepares her for a life of sexual servitude. Women with hypersexual tendencies and extremely submissive psychology tendencies tend to have been raised with incest in their life.
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>Extra question but how are bastard daughters dealt with?
>Like a free use slave has a random man's daughter in her belly, does her master just think of it as a future asset or sent to state orphanage, etc.
For me it's future assets provided you can afford to feed them, but it depends how Freudian you want to get, I like the idea of a girl born to a tavern-whore, but for whatever reason the landlord/owner finds her endearing, and takes a shine to her. Even grants her special privileges like fancy jewellery like she gets away with calling him "Daddy" when all the other girls he owns know they'll be punished if they call him anything but "Master" This leads to a bit of resentment, but as the girl has no idea which one her mother is, and as he's the sole male in her life (outside patrons), she's enarmoured with him too.
Alternatively a Master takes a pregnant free woman in, she dies in childbirth, but the daughter knows he rescued her, and her mother from freedom, and made her mother's last moments happy, so she willingly enslaves herself.

>>10064210
>Cooking, cleaning and other domestic work aside from her duties as a breeder/mother.
A lot can't do that as well, like imagine somebody recently enslaved, can only cook very basic store-bought pasta, pizza etc. compared to a bred slave who has been cooking all her life, proof that without Master's loving guidance she couldn't even be trusted to feed herself properly. The meals taste much nicer, and she's in better company with Master and her harem sisters now than she was eating microwave meals alone in silence in her cramped flat. She's very lucky Master saved her.

>they mentally can't handle freedom.
Of course the constant stories of what happens to uncollared women doesn't help, but then wouldn't some see going uncollared in public a thrill, like exhibitionists irl?

>>10064540
>to orgasm or to heat
Heat first, ready for Master, if he decides not to use their holes they can communally finish each other off
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>>10063956
Behind a great man is an equally great woman.
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>>10064619
>Heat first, ready for Master, if he decides not to use their holes they can communally finish each other off
Correct listener. While making each other cum their brains out and fall together in a sweaty mass is great for bonding between sisters or sisters to mothers, it also allows for girls to be exposed to the concept of orgasm denial and suspensement.
A good woman, through her schooling, and her own habits, will both become easily aroused, and spend a lot of her time sexually stimulated, edged, but without orgasm.
This is sometimes considered to be to ensure eagerness to have sex or to serve their master, but this hypersexualisation is already covered extensively in her education. While her edging and denial does aid in making that more subconscious, its real reasons for practice is to keep thoughts that might be harmful to her emotions from her head, and to make her appear more beautiful. It is well known that women going through sexual stimulus without relief are known to look, appear and behave considerably more vulnerable, delicate, attractive and feminine quite naturally then they would at rest, even when attempting to be assertive and power through it.
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>>10064540
>seedbeds for children is still not something they can do of their own will. It takes a man to impregnate them, and a man to raise a boy
Well it IS something that's uniquely female and it's an important part of keeping any patriarchal society functioning.
Women filling her correct role as men intend them to do should be rewarded and encouraged to continue doing it.
Beside the job of caring for a son in his earliest years still falls on his mother after that then he'll be raised by his father

>Sex, proper sex, is something only men have the 'equipment' to initiate
Feel like men would just see this as "normal" due to the fact that women are controlled more buy animalistic emotions like lust
They just see it as a aspect of women being cum brained coomers, but how does your society view Bi-sexuality in women?

>Incest
>some cultures, it's entirely accepted
Think acceptance would be more prevalent especially if genetic modification is available.
It would just be seen as a more intimate for of love, seeing as how men are already very possessive of women they own.
So it's not out of the ordinary for a Father to keep a daughter or let his son enslave a few.

>>10064619
>depends how Freudian you want to get
Well if blood related Incest is fine and women are already being raised to be future slave wives.
It's not a stretch to imagine that bastard daughters would be accepted by her master.
Once she grows into a woman it's not uncommon for her "daddy" to marry her.
Or for men running cottage industry of breeding slaves then having studs might even be a thing
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>>10064705
>Beside the job of caring for a son in his earliest years still falls on his mother after that then he'll be raised by his father
Does the age harem slaves stop breastfeeding differ between boys, and girls. Where the girl is no longer entitled to it, but the milk of his father's harem is the son's birthright? Or is the daughter always allowed it to encourage sisterhood?
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>>10064707
>Does the age harem slaves stop breastfeeding differ between boys, and girls...
For boys it works a bit like how the sultans did it IRL.
Once a boy is old enough to live apart from his mother he slowly spends less time being raised by his mother and more by his father.
By his teens He'll have to treat his mother like any other of his father's slaves, drinking her milk, fucking her and all that requires his father's permission.
This aims to develop independence in men and to have his father raise him correctly

>daughter always allowed it to encourage sisterhood?
Well daughters never really leave their mothers or the harem until they're sold to another man and thus they join his harem.
So it's not really out of place to have a slave girl till drinking her mothers milk

>>10064668
>eagerness to have sex or to serve their master, but this hypersexualisation is already covered extensively in her education
An other aspect of this is that women aren't expected to control their sexual urges at all.
So it's just accepted that they'll be molesting their harem sisters or are always asking master for sex.
If they didn't have house chores some woman would happily spend most of their day being coomers.
But at the same time men do have to train sexual restraint themselves or buy from slave schools that have this as a elective course
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>>10064707
Theoretically, the son always has priority. He is more then her, and he has the real right to priority.

Practically, the opposite eventually occurs. Boys will, eventually, be weaned off nursing, in tandem with their mental and physical development. They may keep it up on occasion for pleasure or romance or irregular displays of mother-son affection (more then just using her milk in food), but sons grow up and move away from it as they mature.

Women, predictably, do not. Girls do not develop that emotional maturity or maturation in the same way as boys, and will often fully nurse from their mother as a show of intimacy and love, even after becoming mothers themselves. Often, with older daughters, mothers will nurse from daughters in turn to alleviate pressure and stimulate growth and expression, especially in cultures where it's considered poor conduct for women to touch themselves for personal pleasure or relief.
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Memo of the day. Womens sports and hobbies.
Girls edition.

It's normal for girls, and young women, to pick up interests in sports and hobbies and other such things for personal pleasure and enjoyment.
This often causes girls the world over, concerns and mental or emotional destabilization over the dilemma. Women's sports and hobbies exist, and I want to participate in them, but my own desires are implicitly wrong, because they're self-destructive and will prevent me, and those around me, from happiness.
Fortunately, they are possible to participate in. Not every desire is self-destructive. After all, men make good decisions that often ensure goodness, and though you have the misfortune of being a woman, and your everyday petty whims being harmful, you are not entirely incapable of choosing the right decisions to handle this.
Fortunately for you, we at Memo of the Day, have put together a list for you to go through, to ensure your practice is good for you.

>1. Ask permission from your father.
If your father is unavailable, asking permission from an older or younger brother is acceptable for most. He will be able to look closely at the kind of hobby or sport you're interested in, and will know best if it's in your best interests to participate in it. If he says no, do not attempt to go behind him, for he knows you well, and makes that decision for what's best for you, for your sake, as you cannot.

>2. Keep your master informed.
This should be a given, always tell your master figure everything that happens. This is to stop you hiding secrets and developing harmful psychological traits, and to keep him informed weather this hobby/sport is in your best interests. Typically, this should be with your father, your brother, or a school teacher. Female teachers are specially trained to spot potential issues or problems, and bring them to the attention of the male heads of staff, and are a popular source of contact or conversation.
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>>10065298

If you are not fully and entirely open with your thoughts and feelings, your master cannot make good decisions for your personal interests.

>3. Don't expect to perform like men.
Womens sports and hobbies will not perform like the mens leagues. Aside from a generally lower level of performance mentally and physically, womens leagues are rarely directly comparable, and are often altered to extents away from the original rules.
This alteration is for your sake. You are not as mentally or physically hardwearing as boys your age, and there are many considerations that have had to be taken by those who wrote the rules, to ensure you and all the other girls can all stay safe and have fun. This means typically a lesser intensity of performance, and particularly grueling sports will be toned back for your health and safety.
Remember, this is all for your personal interest. Male sports are written with the understanding the practitioners can make immediate decisions to preserve their health and safety. As you and other girls alongside you cannot do so, and have many more concerns to your health and wellness such as hormones, potential pregnancies, and physical ability, this has been considered into the writing of your rules to make these decisions for you.
Fortunately, it removes all the stress from your game, as everything's being managed by the ref or game master, so you can go out and have some carefree fun.

>4. Remember your priorities.
What purpose does your sport serve? Does it entertain men? Does it have an impact on your masters own wellness? These are possible for the women who go to the higher leagues of sports, who may perform for the entertainment of men, but often it may end up being a personal drive or interest alone, especially in your teenage years.
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>>10065330

This is, of course, forgivable if your relevant master has signed off on it, but you must remember that the impact of service you can give to your master, is far more useful and lasting and valuable then personal satisfaction.
Your first interest should always be in doing your duty as a woman. That means care for yourself, care for your master, and being dutifully obedient to male authority. In most cases, your sport will do nothing of use, or of impact. It is not a right or a correctness, it is a privilege, tenuously given, under the understanding this takes second place to your development as a woman, and duty as one to service your master, present as a model of femininity, and carry his children.
Girls and women who forget this, from ego or heat of moment, or just their womanhood impacting them, are often pitted against younger male teams, and will often be humiliated, publicly taken and raped, and used to demonstrate the inequality of the sexes.
(Postal Script: This should not be an incentive to act out.)

All in all, the desire to partake in a woman's sport or hobby is not uncommon, and many women's versions of sports exist. Just remember the list, be dutifully good and obedient, and do as your master tells you.
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>>10065337
To help you remember this, we've come up with an acronym (a word made by taking the first words of a sentence) to help you remember what to do.
AKTRS (Actress).
You may find it helpful to make into a phrase. "As a Sportswoman, I'm a cute little AKDRS at sports."
>A. Ask permission from your master.
>K. Keep a master informed of everything.
>D. Don't expect women's sports to be like the original.
>R. Remember your priorities.
>S. Stay safe and be conservative.

We at Memo of the day leave you with this parting tip. Prioritizing entertaining or pleasing your master or men in general, over the practice of the sport as you see it, is often the easiest and simplest way to meaningfully succeed in it.
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>>10031610
>girlslop

I find this idea fascinating! Language actually defines reality: that is why any political actors try to seize that in any way they can. Not sure yet --English is not my main language-- but getting into the geek area of this, *maybe* we can define new words or even a sintaxis for 'Patriarch Speech' or 'Patriarch Common'.

Adding to this, I imagine females NOT being taught the current western syntax or even our graphs or writing structures, but a far simpler and less specialised in anything but --for example-- sexual topics.
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>>10031541
>Female circumcision
Based. How does society at large deal with female circumcisions? Standard cosmetic procedure for newborns like male circumcision currently is in the US? Coming-of-age ceremony for young women? Wait for marriage, then cut according to her husband's preferences, as a sign of submission?
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>>10064735
>Women, predictably, do not. Girls do not develop that emotional maturity or maturation in the same way as boys
Could you make the milk more addictive for girls, so they try to leave the safety of Master's harem, and end up getting some withdrawal symptoms, or do you thnk it's too much of a double-edged sword, as women would now want to escape in pairs, and it may be trouble-some to ween boys off.
Going back on the throat G-spots from earlier, would you also put one in women's breasts so they enjoy being groped, and milked more? Which other body parts would women tend to have additional G spots as standard, and are there any extra places you'd want to have/your slaves to have them.

>>10065780
I imagine schools after a certain point boys continue to learn at their desks, girls are on the carpet at the back colouring in propaganda, attending their "Master" student that they've been paired with, and cleaning away. As such girls have a lesser ability at reading, writing, and speaking, along with a smaller vocab pool
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>>10065298
>my own desires are implicitly wrong, because they're self-destructive
Always though it if more along the lines that women acknowledge their desires exist but acting on some of them needs male guidance
For example a wife in her fertile years will often go into head and it's nest she ask her master instead of acting like a public use whore
So they know that they themselves might have unreasonable feelings/needs but her master knows how best to deal with it

>>10065330
>>4. Remember your priorities.
I'm thinking it could be innocent hobbies like learning pastry making or gardening, the types of skills a father wants for his daughters.
Making them worth more when it comes time to sell them off as wives.
But it could also be some lewd things too like pole dancing, the kind of thing a man might want his wives to learn.
At the same time it's very physically demanding and will keep his girls healthy and in shape.

>>10065837
>As such girls have a lesser ability at reading, writing, and speaking, along with a smaller vocab poo
On a more 1984 type deal, but It could be that women aren't taught taught certain words/concepts at all.
So they lack the ability to mentality articulate ideas like freedom/self-determination.
And if they do interact with ideas they don't understand they're encouraged to ask daddy/master.
Letting men control even the way women think.
It's done in a "don't worry your cute head about it" kind of way, just very patronizing
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jesus christ
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>>10066189
Anon, where the hell do you think you are? As far as /d/ goes this thread is pretty tame.
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>>10066313
They're probably talking about the stuff that got beleted
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>>10065915
>For example a wife in her fertile years will often go into head and it's nest she ask her master instead of acting like a public use whore

That all women would have the same level of uncleanly filthiness is not a world I find attractive, it seems entirely at odds with patriarchy as a concept and system. For patriarchy is a familial order at the core, so letting your women be taken by anybody destroys this central element of the practice. For there can be no father if all men can be one’s sire.
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>>10066406
>all women would have the same level of uncleanly filthiness
Women, unlike men are far more "animistic" in that they are guided more often by their feelings and urges rather then reason/logic.
That's the reason why they need to be enslaved else they'd have 0 ability to create/maintain society.
It's just that for untrained women this kind of behavior is considered normal and after all it's up to the man she's pestering if he'll rape her on the spot and enslave her.
After that it's the man's responsibility to train her.

>patriarchy is a familial order at the core
Well that's why training your daughters is so important as well as using all the tools at your disposal.
Smart collars, chastity belts and other such things should be used to control an unwieldy bitch till she's been trained properly.

>letting your women be taken by anybody
Oh of course that's why men exert such control over their wives/daughters that things like leaving the house or just joining a sports team requires master's approval.
Besides due to advances in bio technology it's impossible for women to have sons without the collar's influence on her body.
Thus a woman's fertility can easily be controlled by her masters as collars can easily be linked to his own bio-implants

>no father if all men can be one’s sire
Well on the other hand public relief slaves, whores, nuns are allowed to have bastard daughters
These slaves and their offspring are property of the government/institution that owns the mother.
And this combined with privately run breeding operations is what allows such a large supply of slave girls for the markets and auction houses
How do you think Harems/polygamy went from a thing limited to sultans/emperors to something that a man of modest means could afford(even if it's on the smaller side of 2-3 women)?
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>Bumped
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>>10067135
>female cop
would that even be allowed?
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>>10067650
Probably not for highway patrol or anything that requires putting pedal to the metal, but a bit of civil service? Nothing wrong with a spirited girl helping old ladies cross the street, retrieving lost children or keeping angry men from killing each other on the morning commute. After all, you wouldn't hit a lady, *and* a cop... would you?
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>>10067667
>bit of civil service? Nothing wrong with a spirited girl helping old ladies cross the street, retrieving lost children
I think you are misunderstanding what a police woman's main duty is.
they're state owned slaves but their primary objective is to prevent rape!
No man wants to have their slaves used in an unauthorized way.
so these police women ensure that men have an outlet for their sexual needs.
its her duty to help you drain your balls, a rapist cant rape if he's been fucked dry.
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Hey guys, writefag here.

Having been posting that much, but I've written something that I hope you guys might like. It might be part 1 of a series, haven't decided yet.

Feedback, positive or negative, welcome.

https://ghostbin.com/4R7jS
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>>10067942
>Hey guys, writefag here.
Oh thank god
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>>10067942
Good work and nice to see that some of the ideas/concepts from these threads got worked into it.
Keep it up anon!
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I'll also say I don't quite understand this fascination with incest. It's incredibly rare in reality because people evolved not to be, there's all sorts of little tricks biology will pull to prevent it.

Ideally, you just block it from happening forever by sending sisters of any master's son off to boarding schools the instant it becomes a risk.

There's no reason to keep ownership of any woman that you're blood related to. Markets are always hunting for merchandise, and there's always more for sale. Sell them off and buy another.

If you want your son to have the milf experience, buy him a nice mature slave for one of his teen birthdays.
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>>10067942
Nice. I wonder if the seed planted there will bear fruit.
Maybe it will cause her to betray her country at a crucial moment, leading to the enslavement of herself and every other 'free woman' like her.
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We should really see how long the next thread can go without invoking enslavement and/or slavery, if only to force some imagination out of people
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>>10068102
>I'll also say I don't quite understand this fascination with incest.
fictional incest is hot. especially if there's a big power dynamic to it, like most men ending up in full physical control of their female siblings or relatives. Especially if it's weirdly "expect" of them and seen as a safe way to induct them into the patriarchy.

Most probably wouldn't get overly sexual with their female relatives. In exchange for handling them, they'd be able to sell them off (via marriage) to interested parties, springboarding their own "adult" lifestyle.

It ends up being very weirdly paternalistic, because you have to take care of this person, see them educated, make decisions for them, protect them (as they're an investment) and even give a lot of shit about their pedigree. They are a great and safe way to learn everything you need to know to be a man.
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>>10068146
This thread originally split from the slavery thread, and it fits perfectly with the thread theme. You can't get any more than absolute power.

If you want something different, lead by example. Post something you like, and others may be inspired by it as well. Don't just nag, like a woman.
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>>10067667
Also makes it easier to deal with women.
The vast, vast majority of offenses a woman might commit are pretty minor. This, plus the awkwardness of masculine ownership, can cause complications down the line.
Hence, it's always good to have a female officer. A woman officer dealing with a woman doesn't start master-slave dynamics, there's no ulterior social motive going on, and it's straightforward.
Police girl gets empowered by Policeman handler, gets given her instructions, and she goes and completes them, being the almighty fuzz, detaining the naughty girl. That policegirls get really into it, and often like to make a show of power or dominance is also appreciated.

If you're a police officer, you can take a qualification course, similar to canine handling, to be able to handle a policewoman, for use in solving disputes, dealing with women for her police master, and stress relief.
It's an extremely popular role for dominant women, or women who struggle to be passive so much. Though of course, exposing them to anything dangerous, confronting, or unpleasant is entirely forbidden, and while you're at a crime scene or an accident, they'll stay safely in the car, out of sight of the scene, for their wellbeing.
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>>10068102
>I'll also say I don't quite understand this fascination with incest. It's incredibly rare in reality because people evolved not to be, there's all sorts of little tricks biology will pull to prevent it.
This. I always took it to be more a mother-daughter, or sister-sister thing. The harmless, practice kind that's cute and helps them bond.
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>>10068207
Amusingly, the police department is one of the few departments in modern society where instead of being incorporated into the lower tiers of a normal hierarchy, women have their own separate divisions and ranks, under their own specific bosses (who themselves serve under the police chief/boss there).

This comes from the past days when men and women had a legal equality of rights, and the transition over into the modernist way of thinking.
As women gradually grew more interested in socializing, became more sensitive from lesser pressures, and gradually performed worse and worse, unofficial segregations erupted, in who could be sent to what.
Men would be sent to armed offenders units, fast car chases, and high danger cases, while women were quietly penned off to slower, less pressured cases. In the early days, this was a difficult balance. Too much and you lose your job for daring to control or doubt a woman, while too little and you lose your job for putting a woman in such a terrible, horrifying situation that men deal with.
As the culture of freeing the woman, saw the spiral of womanhood and womanly ability down, and the rise in competitive femininity for the sake of finding a partner, branches began to be deliberately split into a women's specialty division, taking from sworn and non-sworn roles, and dedicated to dealing with women's issues socially and emotionally. Staffed only by women, designed, trained, and run by women (who reported to the man in charge and their orders) it was supposed to be a great hurrah of women's empowerment.
Within five years of its inception, 98% of female police forces were active members of such specialty.
In another year, the process was streamlined down to allow for progression into the division in a year less then other specialties required.
In another year, it was a division immediately open to graduate women.
Within two, the core recruitment process was reordered to funnel female recruits directly to the division
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>>10068239
The women's division then gained permission to alter and decide the training of female recruits, given that they all ended up in the division, for streamlining, efficiency, and 'appropriate respect of women'. Skills such as physical fitness, self defense, and firearms training were stripped due to their non-relevancy, as batons, sprays, tasers and guns were not needed to be issued to policewomen in such a role. Then, assertiveness training was taken and replaced with placation training, to better suit the nature of the women going through the course. Ranks in the division were simplified, more complex laws were waved over, and people were permitted to alter their uniforms to be more appealing as women, as this was in the midst of the great rebirth of femininity and physical competitiveness was high.
Due to the slow decline of skill or ability of new policewomen, who had risen through the ranks to high roles in the women's division, without the necessary skills to implement their desired changes or manage their role effectively, around this point men from the standard ranks stepped in, offering aid, instruction, and management to solve issues. Precinct heads began to instruct local women's division heads, to make things easier. These instructions turned to orders in time, with the growing rate of submissiveness. Eventually, standard officers took over effective management of the women's division training and recruitment process, working with and managing the women managing that process.

So that is why, these days, there is still a dedicated and different women's rank system in the police today. It is run and organized and managed by men at every step of the way, but the command structure is still there. These days though, the precinct heads are typically not the brightest, and are most often just the policegirl in the precinct with the biggest tits.
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>>10067942
Good read,

>>10068207
>All the authority the policewomen have is pretty much derived from her male handler.
I guess their main tasks are re-capturing runaway women
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>>10068157
>You can't get any more than absolute power.
Power is an aspect of it, but it seems like most anons (men) are also into the "responsibility"/daddy side of it.
Like all this talk of taking rights/freedoms from women also means men are responsible for them.
So it's a win win for both genders, women trade freedom for safety, men get "great power and responsibility" as the master of his women.

>>10068500
>their main tasks are re-capturing runaway women
Kind of a dark idea but I'm thinking that a police man and his female "partner" might be send on infiltration type capture missions.
like a newly enslaved freewoman some how escapes and is hiding out in a refugee camp/woman's shelter.
And the agent can pose as husband and wife with his "partner" to hunt down these women.

>>10068243
Cute, I like the idea of a woman's division becoming more of a morality police type deal but they specifically patrol other women.
Like they enforce behavioral standards on other women or act as social workers to help other women to find their submissive side.

>>10068102
>want your son to have the milf experience, buy him a nice mature slave for one of his teen birthdays
Starting to think that men would become fathers at a much younger age then IRL.
While women spend their fertile years getting bred women, given that marriage/slave trading is a very common practice
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>>10052497
>>10052497
>Makes rights gender based
>Women identify as men to get rights
????
You failed
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>>10068578
>Kind of a dark idea but I'm thinking that a police man and his female "partner" might be send on infiltration type capture missions.
>like a newly enslaved freewoman some how escapes and is hiding out in a refugee camp/woman's shelter.
>And the agent can pose as husband and wife with his "partner" to hunt down these women.
The woman there is always more of a plant, if she infiltrates she brings down morale, plays up how much easier loving captivity was, so that when the raid inevitably does happen they are more than willing to go back to their former Master, despite the punishments that await them. Later when they're in the re-habilitation centre waiting for the Master of the escaped girl, if the female officer still hasn't been discovered, then she'll be with them like an older sister/head haram girl, and example. Showing gratitude to the kindness of their male captors, soothing the other girls during their deserved punishment for running away etc.
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Even as a male I can't help but think that the women's role of being dominated looks really fun.
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>>10068612
Ur gay bro
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>>10068613
I don't find male bodies attractive at all, but there's just something delightfully thrilling about the humiliation of being made to submit completely to a superior entity.
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>>10068609
>more of a plant, if she infiltrates she brings down morale, plays up how much easier loving captivity was
As for the idea of being a plant there could be an even darker side of that like slave hunters that aim to get exotic foreign women also use this method.
The play as a normal couple only to entrap freewomen and black bag them, dragging them back home as a slave.

>like an older sister/head haram girl, and example. Showing gratitude to the kindness of their male captors
Most important role of this would be chipping away at the escapee's self confidence.
Like you get the to doubt the idea that freedom is really all it's made up to be.
Managing your own life can be a scary and stressful sometimes
wouldn't It all be better if she just gave up on freedom and let daddy take care of things?

>>10068641
>submit completely to a superior entity.
That part I can get behind, women having the burden of rights/responsibility remove is fun.
But only so long as the men who are masters are trained to be good doms and not sadistic murderers.
Patriarchy goes both ways in enforcing standards for both men and women.
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>>10068641
I know where you're coming from, it's why all the pictures, and and writings are centralised on the woman rather than her Master. There is something intensely sexual about a woman who is completely helpless to do anything other than please, and is happy to do so
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>>10061013
>>10061453
Western artwork is explicitly against /d/'s rules.
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>>10068657
>As for the idea of being a plant there could be an even darker side of that like slave hunters that aim to get exotic foreign women also use this method.
>The play as a normal couple only to entrap freewomen and black bag them, dragging them back home as a slave.
That would also be done via ex-pats, so a wealthy man, and his various slaves move abroad with his wives/women. Of course female slavery isn't entirely legal over there, but the women are so happy that nothing is done.
Younger girls are see the lifestyle, and those girls as mystic, and exotic, older girls see the happiness of the slaves and it plagues them with self-doubt. There was a mini-scenario in an old slavery thread that stretched over a couple of posts
https://ghostbin.com/Fn2Qi
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>>10068794
Forgot pic
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>>10068706
'Western artwork' now makes up a fraction of /d/'s contributions so significant that strictly enforcing this rule would actually kill the board. The only time it's ever actually applied is when some anon has an axe to grind or the jannies don't like something. It's the most pointless rule on this board or even /h/.
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>>10068612
It's fun for a woman, not a man. Seeing a woman submit happily will naturally arouse male desire, because that's the natural order.

But your job is to put the woman there. Take her freedom from her, and give her happiness in return.

Don't be a faggot, because women don't want faggots. They want men.
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>>10068794
Rather then a Neo-Patriarchal society conquering their neighbors through military might I think it would be way hotter if there was a program were male citizens of the nation purposefully moved to other nations with their girls for the expressed purpose of being ambassadors of sorts in an attempt to spread their culture while there. The girls slowly indoctrinating free women of that country so much that they either immigrate to the Neo-Patriarchy or spread those beliefs to others and slowly over a few decades the leading culture of that nation is subverted and replaced with a Patriarchal one. Either becoming an ally of the Neo-Patriarchy if not being subsumed by it entirely.
Girls are trained by the men in their lives to slowly slip in how great their life is and how good it feels when their pussies drip onto the carpet while they're naked at home. How much better it is when they live the domestic life while being able to cum their brains out 20, 30, 40 times a day without end.
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>>10068578
>Cute, I like the idea of a woman's division becoming more of a morality police type deal but they specifically patrol other women.
>Like they enforce behavioral standards on other women or act as social workers to help other women to find their submissive side.
That all implies the women's division is capable of that kind of independent action on such serious matters as major public order.
That kind of thing, gender-based terrorism (not just dissenting opinions, those just get laughed down by society), is always managed, governed and dealt with by men. Policewomen just make for useful tools to actually perform the actions.
Typically, sworn policewomen are 'relatively' dominant women, in that they're slightly more likely to be 'strong' or 'mature', and are more likely to get anxious without doing something useful.
Picked up young, they're sent through a rough training brief, something easy and manageable, and are given a level of authority above the average woman, but below the average man.
Acting as a sexual relief force, diplomatic group, and extra bodies, their duties in the male world are all servile, either to stressed public, or their handlers.
For women, and women's issues, they take on a far more authoritarian role. They serve, a lot, and are elevated so why should they pretend to not be above other women?
Policewoman get a near free reign over women, because women's issues typically aren't really something so major as to require proper police training, and it's also pretty fucking hot to watch.
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>>10068936
>Girls are trained by the men in their lives to slowly slip in how great their life is and how good it feels when their pussies drip onto the carpet while they're naked at home. How much better it is when they live the domestic life while being able to cum their brains out 20, 30, 40 times a day without end.
I mean, if you go by established stuff, they don't need any extra conditioning. Patriarchal women are just so much more openly sexual, they'll discuss it anyway because it will come up naturally.
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>>10069032
I meant it more in the sense that they'd need to be trained not to make it too obvious, since once the other nations catch on to what's going on they're going to want to stomp it out quick.
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>>10068794
>Younger girls are see the lifestyle, and those girls as mystic, and exotic, older girls see the happiness of the slaves and it plagues them with self-doubt.
If possible taking in new women would be done in this subversive way, where they realize the want a "daddy" to collar them and love them.
the option of hardcore slave training, rape, Stockholm syndrome and etc. is on the table but male agents pride themselves on taking a delicate approach.
A real professional does his job with 0 collateral damage and without attracting any attention.

>>10068936
>over a few decades the leading culture of that nation is subverted and replaced with a Patriarchal one
I think also another aspect to this would be simply out breeding the natives or at least the ones that haven't been converted to support the patriarchy.
Given how pro-fertility the culture is the average for a Neo-Patriarchy woman would be 8-12 children each and "only" 5 is already making you look like a weirdo.
Then you factor is the polygamy aspect, how this is supported by the Patriarchy's government and public(public+ private financial support).
Plus it's sure that these patriarchy enclaves in foreign nations would be very culturally insular.
You've basically got a road map that with in 20-40 every government institution and private corporation would be subverted.
This all while native men and women are also joining the patriarchy.

>>10068964
>women's division is capable of that kind of independent action
Idea behind a police woman is that any real threat is taken care of and like 75%+ of their work is done at the base.
A naughty slave needs a lesson while daddy's on his way to pick her up, woman's PSA about how to have sex in public with master.
Basically women's work follow's the "stay in the kitchen" type of stuff except she works with her police men masters.

>sexual relief force
Reminder that policewomen are given generous "pregnancy leave" and are some times awarded to policemen as slave wives!
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>Reminder that policewomen are given generous "pregnancy leave" and are some times awarded to policemen as slave wives!
Well of course. Can't just have any old person knock one of them up, there aren't enough.
Hence, typically their police handler, also becomes their master (police woman are, relative to other neopatriarchal women, tomboyish, and would otherwise get outcompeted by more feminine women for masters, but making them more popular for higher stress working job men), and they get taken off their pill/implant/other form of protection against pregnancy, so they can bear their masters child.

Fun fact. Since mostly all their job is, is sitting in the car at sites, loitering in the precinct/division lounge, and strolling the streets on 'lookout' for 'women problems' they're qualified to deal with, most policewomen can continue to perform their job even while into the later months of pregnancy (if their master/handler allows it). Their absurdly tiny miniskirts, revealing tops, official police bras and heels look even more ludicrous when she looks like she's swallowed a beachball.
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>>10069166
>they get taken off their pill/implant/other form of protection against pregnancy, so they can bear their masters child
Going with the whole condoms/ the pill is evil idea.
I was thinking that for police women who are still owned by the police precinct they are given standard issue chastity belts.
Obviously it only locks her pussy so her ass is still open for use but once she's given as a reward the lucky officer, he gets the keys to her belt.

>police woman are, relative to other neopatriarchal women, tomboyish, and would otherwise get outcompeted by more feminine women for masters
Similarly women are allowed to "serve" the military but as you can guess it's pretty much purely sexual
Located as in far in the rear as possible these women staff R&R and breeding centers.
As well as running jobs like cooks and maids at said centers while any where near real military's frontline it's the all male norm like IRL.

>perform their job even while into the later months of pregnancy... look even more ludicrous when she looks like she's swallowed a beachball.
This in some ways is also related to a police woman's morality police type duties.
As public displays of her pregnancy/lewd acts with master serve to remind all women of where they truly belong.
Besides tiny miniskirts and the like are already the "norm" for women as after all they are sex slaves for men.
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>>10069202
I wasn't necessarily a huge fan of the female police idea before, but that picture definitely changed my mind.

>Sometimes the stress of the day is just too much.
>Fortunately, that's why the "break rooms" exist.
>Each "breakroom" contains a number of "cells", little more than a window & a thick mattress, as well as appropriate storage room for uniforms.
>The number of "cells" varies by the size of the precinct, but generally there are enough to go around.
>Any officer may take advantage of the breakrooms to relieve some stress with his subordinate policewoman
>The adjacent showerroom also sees frequent use for similar purposes.
>The only strict rule is that after stress relief, the sheets on the bed are changed for the next users.
>Some precincts will also station female officers specifically at the breakrooms for public use, but its heavily dependent on personnel
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I love the idea of infiltration
> Give a patriarchal family false papers with biogenic equipment. They have hormones they can sneak into food, or small rna genemodding viruses, to improve biology.
> Start a 'couples therapy' business, brainwashing husbands and wives into natural roles. It improves their sex lives and stepfordizes them.
> The infiltrators & clients found a small pseudo-religious community. The 'fertility cult' strongly encourages constant pregnancy and paternalistic total female enslavement. 12+ kids is typical.
> They set up a secure compound to pool resources and get better organized. Communal living allows them to grow quickly and efficiently.
> Cult wives are never seen beyond the high walls of the compound. Anyone catching a glimpse of them will see happy little breeding cows, barefoot and pregnant. They have no rights, but none complain, escape, or desire anything else.
> The gender ratio of children is tilted in the direction of girls. Their mothers raise them under patriarchal values, brainwashing them into perfect slave wives.
> The compound starts selling these slave wives to powerful politicians and influential businessmen. The marriages give them access to the elite, which they exploit to undermine the country.
> Fashion becomes more perverted. Negative news coverage of the patriarchy is erased. Movies start reinforcing patriarchal values. The media prepares the masses for patriarchal occupation.
> The compound becomes the de-facto governing administration, where 'real business' is done.
> Eventually, the patriarchy invades, in a bloodless occupation.
> In a final transmission from the compound, the former female prime minister declares (blushing red and with cum leaking from her mouth), that the country belongs to the patriarchy, women are property, and resistance is treason.
> She's never seen again.
> Another successful conquest.
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>>10068838
Yep, got banned for "posting Western style", but the real thing was that it was in the patriarchy thread recently where transgenderism was being propagated by a few. Are the jannies men or women?
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>>10069719
>Are the jannies men or women?
they're retards
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>>10068936
I think it's slightly insidious in that it's working in all ways, whilst foreign conquest does happen, the more normalised and accepted these ideas are the less push-back you'd see. Especially with women, as more patriarchal families move in the amount of collared woman you see in public increases exponentially, and women being collared soon goes from weird archaic foreign tradition, to fashion trend

>>10069065
>If possible taking in new women would be done in this subversive way, where they realize the want a "daddy" to collar them and love them.
>the option of hardcore slave training, rape, Stockholm syndrome and etc. is on the table but male agents pride themselves on taking a delicate approach.
>A real professional does his job with 0 collateral damage and without attracting any attention.
Outside communities would be weary, and distrustful so it's got to be entirely done from the woman realising that she wants this

>>10069347
Couples therapy is a good idea.
Main business would be food cuisine, people are shocked at how happy all the collared girls are whilst assisting their Master in cooking seem to be.
Women's meals are laced with aphrodisiacs, men's meals are scented with pheromones to make them more appealing to the opposite sex. Leading to .
Then there's the more transparent offers they can give
>Women are given a 20% discount on their food if they wear a collar throughout the meal
>The sisters in the harem also offer baby-sitting services

>>10069202
That's a really good pic
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thread is on the last few posts might as well start a new one!
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>>10069775
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>>10069775
any ideas for next thread's theme?
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>>10031290
New thread:
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>>10069787
>>10069787

>>10069834
>any ideas for next thread's theme?
Lucky for you!
You don't need to wait



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