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Theme Questions:
>How you organize the hierarchy of your slaves?
>Would you even let some slaves lord over others for your entertainment?
>Do you plan on selling broken/trained slaves or keep them for your self?
>Are there any specialized rituals or honorifics you expect your slaves to preform?
>Would you prefer a person that willingly entered bondage or someone you'd get to break yourself?

Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
>2) Are slaves used for practical work, or are they just playthings?
>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
>4) What's the main "supply" of slaves(breeding, captives, etc.)?

Questions for Masters/Mistresses:
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
>2) What would you do with your enemies once you enslave them?
>3) What (if anything) would you use your slave(s) for besides sex?
>4) How do you view your slaves, are they "people" or just your toys?
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Questions for Slaves:
>1) What would you do now that you've been collared by your mortal enemy?
>2) Would you try to escape and what would master do to you if you failed?
>3) What sort of training would master put you through?
>4) How does master use you now that your a slave?

Questions for Switches:
>1) Are your master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?
>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?

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The thing I love most about bondage inside the cage is how much harder it makes it to get out when the owner has a use for them.
The bonds around the ankle makes it look like she'll be very shaky trying to stand up. So Even if the lid was open she would probably needed to be hoisted up whilst still stuck in her hogtie.
Maybe you could have a gate at the front or back and drag her out by her hair or a leash attached to her collar, or ankle binds
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>>10443750
What is her ass saying?
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>>10444149
pussu butsu, I think. Has to be some kind of noise or whatever.

I mean, it's an ass, anon, what did you think it was going to say?
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>>10443737
>How you organize the hierarchy of your slaves?
I like the idea of having two very different "top" positions in a harem. The head girl and the favorite pet.

>Head Girl/Harem Mistress
This slave manages all the others. Assigning chores, and helping with training and discipline. Within the harem her authority would be secondary only to my own.

In addition to her position of power, she is afforded more dignity and privileges. She is allowed to dress herself more like a free woman. Though she would still be expected to keep it sexy, and always leave her collar visible. When she need to be punished, it would generally get kept behind closed doors. Unless I think she's forgetting her place, and needs a reminder that she's still just a slave herself. In which case she might be in for some humiliation in front of the other slaves.

>Favorite Pet
This is a dedicated sex slave/pet. She also has a privileged position, but in an opposite way from the head girl. Instead of having the most power and responsibility, she had none at all. Her only job is to always be available to fuck, grope, or just pet. When I'm not actively using her, she just needs to sit (or kneel) there and be pretty.

Since her role is purely about being on hand for me to enjoy, the pet is an exception to the head girl's authority. There is only one other slave who can command or punish her. The pet's groom.

>Pet's Groom
This slave has the specialized job of tending to the favorite pet. The pet isn't even reasonable for her own self-care. So this slave is instead. She keeps the pet clean, well groomed, makes her exercise, etc. She has authority to order the pet around, and discipline her if needed. She is only allowed to use that power to make the pet cooperate with her care, and will be punished if caught using the pet for her own pleasure.
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>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Let's go for something a little different. A modern world, where slavery is still very much illegal. Our focus is on a secret society of slave owners. The members are wealthy individuals who mostly stay out of the public eye. With the resources to repeatedly have people kidnapped and kept as slaves while avoiding discovery.

They really are a society. Holding gatherings where they can show off their property, and safely socialize with each other. There are private islands held by the society, where members can go to be able to use their slaves out in the open.

>2) Are slaves used for practical work, or are they just playthings?
The slaves owned by members of the society are playthings. Using them as actual workers to make a profit is just not a viable business model. Though some might be used as maids, or forced to do menial labor for their master's entertainment.

>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
The society's rules are mostly about maintaining secrecy. How slaves are treated is left up to the individual masters.

>4) What's the main "supply" of slaves(breeding, captives, etc.)?
One of the main services that the society provides as an organization is the actual acquisition of slaves. They employ teams of professional kidnappers. Some new slaves are put through a training programs before being sold to members. Others are immediately auctioned off at gatherings. A member can also pay a premium fee to have a particular target acquired.
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The world building stuff can be fun to think about, but I think the best part of this fetish is when you focus in on the relationship between a slave and master. Exploring the interplay between the intimacy of it (fucking, living together, personal service, etc.) and the tension caused by the complete power imbalance. When the slave had to deal with the fact that the same person is both her oppressor and her main source of care and affection.
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>>10445252
Succu-anon. I'm more than happy to keep going :3
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>>10445252
This 1000%. I think this sort of unbalanced dynamic reproduces itself from the other side as well. I mean, a more reflective master also has to deal with the same ambivalence. It is an aspect of this kind of relationship, that is fundamentally both abusive and intimate. On the one hand being intimate with someone will normally get you to like them more, but on the other hand you have to somehow deal with the fact that even if they like you back, you *are* holding them as property, and that's not what we want for people we care for.

When I try to really visualise myself in this position (casual roleplaying and world-building aside), it feels like my desire comes apart and comes into conflict with itself, because overriding her consent is absolutely what I want, not an incidental aspect of the slavery fantasy. But imaginging caring for them (which I don't think I could resolve to suppress) gives rise to a real desire to the opposite effect for them, to make sure they're not property, and that's also not something that you can solve just by being relatively nice to them in the context of keeping them enslaved. Both the slave and master have to deal with an attachment to someone who either harms (however subtly) or is harmed by them. I think the psychodrama of this is very interesting, and strangely appealing.
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>>10445323
On a related note, I remember reading a very interesting interview of a girl that was held as a sex slave by two ISIS fighters over a couple of years, and what was striking about her description of her relationship with the second one was how confused both of them seemed to be about it.

According to her, the first guy that owned her beat her a lot, but his wife (who was also looking for excuses to beat her, e.g. that she couldn't recite correctly in arabic) was jealous of her and eventually persuaded him to sell her off.

He went and sold her off to another fighter who had a reputation for being brutal, but there was a twist. She kept stressing throughout the interview that even though he also raped her and despite his reputation, her second owner curiously never once beat her. At some point she asked him about this or thanked him (I don't remember) and he opened up and told her that he was beaten constantly when he was a POW in Iraq, so he couldn't stomach the idea of beating a prisoner. The prospect literally triggered him.

Then she talked about how after he described her as a prisoner and analogised himself to her, he stopped talking to her or interacting with her at all, and she was afraid she overstepped and might be resold again. Then after a few weeks of the silent treatment, he took her with him and gave her to a bunch of strangers, gave her a hug and told her he's sending her back to her family (who had paid him the traffickers' fee).

When the interviewer asked her what she thought about him now that she was free, she said that in the beginning, she was extremely grateful because he freed her, but then she started thinking more often about how he raped her and she couldn't forgive him for that. But on the other hand she couldn't just hate him either, since he didn't abuse her like the first one and, importantly, let her go, so she decided they were even. I thought it was a very compelling story, but I had forgotten all about it until now.
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You must be new around here cause 4chan has an in built image search function.

For example in posts with images the ▶ tri-angle is actually a drop down menu! No.10445252▶
Just click on ▶, navigate "image search" then pick saucenao and 99% of the time the website will find the source.
Then just click the little blue gelbooru icon and It will even take you to the page it's self.
Artest name, links, etc. are all listed for images by saucenao.
FYI artist is "nori senbei"!
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>>10445307
Do keep going, this perspective is very interesting to me. You might even be rewarded with headpats!
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>>10445336
They weren't asking for source?
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>>10445338
I thought they were, Just wanted to help a new anon learn how to use 4chan
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>>10445360
Literally 0 idea how you read their post as a request for sauce but based i guess
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>>10445328
Yeah I do find it very easy to naturally mellow out.
As for caring and consent you have to think of it that as her Master you know what's best for her, and that if she was capable of deciding for herself then she wouldn't have been enslaved. Overriding her consent when necessary is part of your duty of care

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>Worst thing I'd do
Honestly it has to be tailor made for the slave so you'd have to describe her wants and fears
Kindest thing I'd do is probably just pampering her like a spoilt pet, or just sifting it into more of a Daddy/Daughter relationship than Master/slave
>>10445307
Now that the last thread is over tell me what Master's adorable slave learned from kneeling down to interact with these threads.
Master wants to know if his obedient pet can be rewarded with jewellery, headpats and good girl treats, or if she needs her training escalated before her simple mind understands.
If the latter then I think posting whilst lying down with your back on the floor, your knees bent so your heels touch your thighs until the post count hits 50 will help you understand your place in the world and that your perfect body exists for Master's enjoyment.
My guess is that you tingled at the power Master was using over you and that you can't explain why Master was doing it, but you found it enjoyable so you submitted anyway. Like how a dog doesn't know why it sits or rolls over on command but does anyway. It says a lot for how perfectly obedient my darling succubus is
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>>10445323
I think that conflict is part of why it's popular to have settings where all women/elves/sentient robots/whatever are slaves. If society as whole considers all people of that type to be property without exception, that mitigates an individual master's responsibility. Since it means that letting their slave go free isn't possible.
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>>10443742
What would you do with blinded slaves? Clearly, they would be limited in what tasks they can do but there would be some advantages, like being able to travel with them without fear of them running away. Or, not being able to see their own beauty, their self worth would be more defined by how well they could serve. I think they would make very devoted slaves.
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Probably best for jobs they don't need to move much for like decoration, furniture, or drink holder.
Although they can be made to follow a simple path if properly leashed, reigned, tethered to a suspended rail bar, or with a rope running through their legs like in the pic you replied to. Their uses for that are limited being less efficient at lugging things than a carthorse, and if they were to be humiliated on parade then the blindfold saves them from some embarrassment.
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There are two kinds of slave societies:
> Slaves are slaves because they are sub-human, and don't deserve the same status as one.
> Slaves are human, but there is nothing wrong with owning a person.

The first one makes it difficult to feel sympathy for the slave or to understand their suffering. You can treat your slave however you like without any remorse. Punishing them to get them to do what you want is no different from training an animal.

But you cannot mistreat (whatever that means to you) a slave in the second society without thoughts like, "What if I was in her position?" or "Does she really deserve this?" Both of these questions could be answered in a dynamic where the master is a former slave, or the slave and the owner switch roles.

> If you were a former slave, would you treat your own slave how you hoped to be treated, or would you think of it as your turn as the opressor?

> Would your answer change if your new slave was your previous owner?
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Sorry for the reddit formatting, idk if thats looked down upon on this board
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>>10445848
I think we underestimate the utility of a blind slave. If she knows the house well, she can do basically everything other than cooking. Not to mention, she doesn't need functioning eyes to suck cock.
She will be completely dependent on me when she is in an unfamiliar environment, and I'll have to constantly help her around the house. This will eventually lead her become profoundly trusting of me.
Although I'll be caring for the most part, I can't help but think of all the cruel things I'd do to her. Giving her impossible tasks like asking her to bring me the blue book. I'd be fun to see her trying to get more information out from me without making me angry, I of course would only give her vague descriptions, and punish her when she fails. Leave Lego pieces on the floor. One anon even mentioned making her wear transparent cloths when outside without telling her and enjoy her confusion as she wonders why strangers keep complementing her tits.
What are some ways you would punish her? assuming her blindness has a role to play in the punishment
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> Slaves are slaves because they are sub-human, and don't deserve the same status as one.
>The first one makes it difficult to feel sympathy for the slave or to understand their suffering. You can treat your slave however you like without any remorse. Punishing them to get them to do what you want is no different from training an animal.
I don't think it necessarily follows that a setting like that would mean there's no consideration for a slave's feelings. Most people consider it perfectly acceptable to own dogs as property, and train them to be obedient. But that doesn't mean they think it's okay to treat a dog however you want.

Slaves could occupy a similar status. Where they aren't seen as having any right to self-determination, but their owners have a responsibility to treat them well. What exactly "treat them well" means would depends on the details of the setting.
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Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
My scenario would take place in a futuristic, but derelict world. Meaning the once abundant resource of humans would be scarce. There is technological advancement, but the world is pretty empty with lots of abandoned things but also nature. The important aspect is calmness, dedication and deceleration. Time to focus and get really deep into things. Generally the quality has won over the quantity.
>2) Are slaves used for practical work, or are they just playthings?
That depends on the circumstances. If someone has enough of the rare humans, he can surely use them for work, the question is if that is practical.
So when someone has a slave, chances are that the slave is used to their maximum capacity (usually normal work is shallow compared to that).
>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
There is no such thing as an enforced law. The few people alive are the selection regarding quality of character as a harsh environment does not permit other things on a broader scale. So, usually free will is respected. There is nothing that protects the slave against their master but the masters reasoning whether he wants to waste his property by completely crushing them. The treatment entirely depends on the personality of the master.
>4) What's the main "supply" of slaves(breeding, captives, etc.)?
As put before, free will is usually respected. How does one become a slave in this world ?
As people use reason and moral, they know/feel who is superior to whom. People follow their nature and spirit.
A way one can become a slave is for example someone who is naturally inclined to serve sees someone vastly superior to him and decides to submit to them and do his best to support and serve them as that way it is the best for everyone.
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>>10443739
Questions for Slaves:
>1) What would you do now that you've been collared by your mortal enemy?
As visible from the world building, submission is something that should be thought through very carefully, especially with no safety limits in place. Mis-consideration may lead to a life of misery. If i were captured by someone deemed a bad master, i would be against that and do my best to get free again, if by cooperative or not cooperative means. Someone i consider a good master would usually not be my "mortal enemy", so i will do my best to cooperate with and please them, to truely be theirs. If that includes slowly dismantling or destroying me, so be it.
>2) Would you try to escape and what would master do to you if you failed?
As said before, that depends on the master. With someone unfit to be my master, i would try to escape if there is no other way around, even if that includes self-destruction. If they caught me trying to escape, they may be cruel and incapacitate me or tie me up, never to let me out again.There are many ideas in that regard.
If my master is good, i would follow his orders and never escape, unless they are playful enough to allow so, perhaps as part of a game of catching, so they get the joy of capturing me against my resistance. A nice hunt with painful but not all too damaging hunting gear, don´t even get me started. Depending on how well i do, i get punished or rewarded.
>3) What sort of training would master put you through?
That would depend on what my master decides to use me for. If i found trouble obeying, i would actively ask for obedience lessons. Sexual techniques, pain endurance, or something to entertain them like dancing or playing an instrument. The training can use gentle methods like rewards for proven learning progress, or more thought through, personally tailored punishments for bigger wrongdoings.
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>4) How does master use you now that you´re a slave?
My master would/will put me to good use in being there for them and their desires. Supporting them would ideally have been the reason to submit to them in the first place.
I will service them in their daily life, any kind of work they want me to do for them is done.
Sexual desires of my master are gladly served, that is what makes sexual acts feel rewarding for me as well, as a good little side effect.
As i can live with suffering for my masters sake quite well, them conveying their love through sadism is wonderful. Being able to take a lot of pain is never enough, of course.
They will always push until i break and they begin to see real trauma in my eyes. They are of course very tender and affectionate through the whole process and take good care of me so i stay alive when with them.
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>>10445964
> If you were a former slave, would you treat your own slave how you hoped to be treated, or would you think of it as your turn as the opressor?
I tend to be on the gentler end of the spectrum anyway (at least by this thread's standards) so probably the former. Unless the experience messed me up badly enough that I went hard the other direction.

> Would your answer change if your new slave was your previous owner?
This would depend heavily on how I was treated, and what our relationship was like. It might be anything from setting her free and marring her, to making a hobby of coming up with creative ways to torment her.
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Ok, what is the *weirdest* thing you would do with a slave. Weird in terms of context of real life. Weird as in unusual or strange or novel. Doesn't have to be gross or degenerate or even sexual. I'm talking make a slave do a headstand and tickle her feet. I'm talking having slaves write an entire musical about your cock. I'm talking making your slaves form a human pyramid so you can take a picture for R*ddit.
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Umm yes sir... your loyal bitch did as instructed. But as master predicted I do not understand... I'm sorry sir, I wish I was smart like you.
I will always obey sir, but master has mentioned I will try to learn purpose within obedience...
To m-me it would be clear that a slave must obey her master! She must always... I had never thought to consider beyond that... would such thoughts not be inappropriate for an inferior creature....?
And master needn't worry about any rewards of course either haha. Despicable creatures as myself are undeserving. I wish to do good... even though I'm bad... and I don't want to be bad... I have bad thoughts sometimes...
I do love you sir. I don't understand much or many things but I do know I truly love master... I love you sir!
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>the *weirdest* thing
I like lifting women up. So if I had a slave I'd keep her in a tight anklebinder just so that if she would have to crawl or she'd need me to carry her. Flung over the shoulder, hogtied and held like a briefcase, bridal carried or fanny packed like in >>10391157


>your loyal bitch did as instructed. But as master predicted I do not understand
>I will always obey sir, but master has mentioned I will try to learn purpose within obedience...
>To m-me it would be clear that a slave must obey her master! She must always... I had never thought to consider beyond that
A good slave should not just obey but understand her Master's wants. Only human slaves ever really manage it though, so I wasn't really expecting it of you. Your kind are only really good for looking pretty, and being sexually ready for Master whenever he wants her. That's not to say you're unwanted, there are plenty of uses for a beloved sex pet and her holes. If you get in the position perhaps I'll show you a couple,

>And master needn't worry about any rewards of course either haha. Despicable creatures as myself are undeserving.
If Master wants to reward his slave then he'll do so, even if I need to tie you up just to headpat you. But if you have no desire for Master's kindness perhaps you'd be better off locked in your cage to think who knows best? Loving Master, or his dumb unworthy sex slave
>II have bad thoughts sometimes...
Ssshh it's okay that's only natural for sinful creatures like you. You just have to run your fingers around your collar and remember that Master is guiding you to your forgiveness. Trust and obey Master and you'll be blessed with a happy life free from your kind's vile sins.

>I don't understand much or many things but I love you sir!
Yappy little thing aren't you? Like an enthusiastic puppy. That said Master does enjoy how eager his slave is to please him. If you strip naked then Master will let you sleep in his bed with him for tonight
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>>10443737
Theme:
1. In Strive and similar games, I usually run a meritocracy with secondary seniority depending on how long they've been with me. The "starting girl" usually gets special attention and key positions are given to those that are best fit for them, with the rest being more or less equal

2. If all the parties invovled would enjoy it, sure.

3. Nope. Even Strive I didn't really run the "proper" way, as I only trained slaves, never sold them. Unless, I guess, if they gave me so much trouble I would decide that it's really not worth the effort trying to "fix" them.

4. Not really, unless it's some sort of kinky play: hidden remote vibes in front of the guests, transparent or cutaway uniforms that reveal only the genitals and tits, that type of thing. For titles, "Master" is good enough. Short, simple, gets the point across.

5. Willing. The only situation where I enjoy breaking slaves in, is when they are obviously aroused by bondage, but for some reason they don't want to admit it.

Master questions:
1. Adoration and respect. I want them fighting for my attention and trying to please me in every way possible, but also see me as someone whom they can confide in and seek support from.

2. Depends. Is it "Enemy" as in "Someone whom I've wanted to shank for the longest time" or as in "My long-time rival, who annoys me, but whom I can also sort of respect"? The first one, I'd probably immediately sell, or, if they made an extra point of pissing me off, they'd probably get the mindbreak treatment first (a certain character from Strive comes to mind, whom at the end of the storyline I've turned into a mindbroken, bound, slug breeding bitch, just to spite her).

The second, I'd keep, having all the delicious fun of showing her the pleasures of being my fucktoy, while also encouraging her to keep polishing her skills. (cont)
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3. Administration and household chores. As I am not into keeping male slaves, I'd rather do more physical stuff myself or get money and pay proper workers for doing shit for me.

4. I think it's obvious from what I've already said, but definitely "people". Not that I would necessarily tell them this.

>>10443739
Questions for slaves:

1. Well, fuck. Probably attempt to organize a coup, if at all possible. Or maybe pretend to go along with them, but secretly plot their demise. Not sure if anything would come of it, though

2. Again, depends. But probably yes. I am a switch, but that means I would also feel uncomfortable losing ALL the control. If it was slavery in name only, but I was given a fairly large amount of independence, I might decide that it's not worth the risk of being captured by somebody even worse.

3. See above. Because I see slavery as almost purely sexual, it would be ways to better please her, to become a better toy, positions, getting accustomed to pain (I really hate painful shit) possibly - something I find really hot as both a sub and as a Dom, cumming on command and ONLY on command. Tease and denial is hot as fuck.

4. Amusement/Sex toy. Pretty much same stuff I'd expect of my own stable.

Questions for switches:

1. Usually separate, but there are some instances where I would allow one of my slaves to dom me. But seeing as I am into T&D it's difficult to organize, both being able to fuck your slaves at will, but also being forbidden from having any pleasure by your Domme.

2. The biggest difference is that, I'd never go into "full" slavery, and also I wouldn't want to be part of a stable. Not as much of an issue when it's me owning the stable. Other than that, it's pretty similar.
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>>10446559
>femboy or trap slave
Only question now is; would you prefer having a Mistress, Male master for a Futa Dom?
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>>10446944
>Ok, what is the *weirdest* thing you would do with a slave.
Make them play tabletop RPGs, cosplaying as their characters. With some additional kinky rules, like if your character is dead, unconscious, or otherwise silenced you have to wear a gag in real life.
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>>10443737
>How do you organize the hierarchy
In the totalitarian regime there is no room for extended hierarchies. There is the totalitarian leader and those who compete to serve him, directly. Arendtian jokes aside, I don't care for a very extended harem, and even if I did, I don't imagine my slaves serving menial purposes, but placed in situations I find amusing. A girl might end up dominating another, but not courtesy of her social position.

>Would you even let some slaves lord over others for your entertainment?
A lot! But as long as it remains entertaining to me and they don't cross a line I wouldn't. And they should understand that the other side of the devil's bargain is that turnabout is fair play. It might seem appealing to me to tie my domme up for her subs to get back at.

>Do you plan on selling broken/trained slaves or keep them for your self?
I become attached to and can't bring myself to give away my actual toys. If she's with me, she's with me for as long as she's a slave. I'd be far more comfortable freeing her if I want to get another, than sell her to someone else, whose choices I can't control.

>Are there any specialized rituals or honorifics you expect your slaves to preform?
"Master" is fine. It might strike my fancy to have a girl refer to *herself* in degrading and impersonal ways though. For a while at least. They can trust it's a game I'll eventually get bored of. They may expect any sort of ritual, such as having themselves do exhausting exercises, edge themselves, assume and keep particular positions, or not make noise.

>Would you prefer a person that willingly entered bondage or someone you'd get to break yourself?
The former. I have a strong fetish for voluntary slavery, whether temporary or permanent, preferably with some elements of reluctance. The latter can be fun as well, but can also be tedious. I'm more into the interactions taking place in the condition of non-consent, than the process of making a girl obedient.
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>>10447334
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Light scifi, because it permits more ways of controlling a slave (their body, arousal, pleasure, pain etc), and the control you exert on them is my jam.

>2) Are slaves used for practical work, or are they just playthings?
Sure. Their practical work description is "master's playthings".

>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
I imagine a setting where slavery may be imposed for criminal acts, or on the basis of a contractual slavery agreement with someone, in both of which cases their status would heavily depend on their sentence or contract.

So some people would be protected from many forms of work / use, augmentation, and other harms, whereas at the bottom of the ladder you'd get slaves who, for one reason or another -that they got a heavy sentence, were tricked into signing the wrong contract, or were abducted and laundered through the system- have little or no protections at all, up to and including from grievous injury or murder.

>4) What's the main "supply" of slaves(breeding, captives, etc.)?
A little bit of everything, but mostly people selling themselves to companies specialising in slave-procurement and resale (and potentially training and modification), to deal with financial deprivation (whether to make more money for a better life after they finish their contract, or as a desperate effort to afford some security for themselves or for others with much harsher terms), and people that try to avoid it only to end up going through the prison-slavery complex, instead.
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>>10447337
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
I'd like them to understand I will hurt them if they disobey, and to trust they will be treated humanely if they try to be good. Romantic attachment is endearing, and devotion appreciated, but neither is required.

>2) What would you do with your enemies
That depends on what I think of them and how they're taking it. I would like to surprise a terrified or innocuous rival with firm but reassuring treatment if she accepts obedience. I would relentlessly degrade an arrogant rival and torture someone that caused me serious harm. But in both cases, I'd give them a second chance if the treatment got through to them and would be gratuitous. E.g. if I've cratered her self-esteem, she's reduced to begging or sobbing or has resigned herself to her fate, I wouldn't keep her despairing in a basement. A little bit of depression can help her reorient herself in her new life, but then it's time to build her back up. There is no third chance, though, and I'd explain this to her very honestly when she could think clearly. She can get good girl treats and relax in her new life, or she can get back to the basement for the rest of it.

>3) What would you use your slave(s) for besides sex?
They can help around as they prefer. Rudimentary cleaning, cooking, taking care of each other and helping with new girls, but their role is recreation and entertainment. Of course, this can be non-sexual, too. We can play board games, go out, have a discussion. They can hang around when I watch a film if they want. I prefer things lively, so I wouldn't discourage suggestions or self-expression with me or each other. For the most part they can chill or fool around if I'm not playing with them.

>4) How do you view your slaves
They're the people that are my toys, of course. I wouldn't want to eliminate their personalities or dismiss the psychological effect all of this has on them, but that doesn't mean they're not my playthings.
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Succubus-anon with yet another banger of a scenario (that's basically the same shit)

One fantasy that's come up before is a weird take on the captured enemy style. I am of course the same submissive useless pet that tries her hardest to please her owner. Only my relationship as a slave with my master is far less intimate. I'm a fuck toy he only keeps because I have succubus slut magic or my body fluids have aphrodisiacs or something. But he sees me more as a companion or a foil to him than a toy to break and dominate. Basically I'm master's favorite cat but he's really more of a dog person, if that makes sense.

However, master really wants to bone the enemy hero(ine, don't get it twisted now). She's young and spunky and a firebrand and proud and overconfident and all the wonderful traits that make a heroine perfect for rape.

The fantasy has two directions. One is the "adventures" we go on while he's trying to capture the Heroine. Lots of comedic (sexual) hijinks. He treats almost like a sidekick that he also gets to rape and molest whenever he's bored. Imagine The Brain is explaining his genius plan that-couldnt-possibly-fail to Pinky, except Pinky is a whore who's sucking his dick the whole time. And neither of them are rodents cus that would weird. Or a scene where he goes on a deep introspective soliloquy, asking himself if he's going down the wrong path in life, while I'm tied up and gagged being used as a footrest (he kicks me when I make noise or move).

The latter would be after capturing her. Basically he wants to break and dominate her. Unlike me, he actually "loves" her and wants to breed her and would even take her as a wife of she consented. Naturally, he use me as help, and we're kept in the same room overnight (she's in more bondage). The Heroine actually wants to rescuee but I have no intention of escaping. I want my master's affectipm, but he wants the Heroine to love him. Basically it's cuckquean No Exit by Sarte.

Thoughts? I know I'm weird lol
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Which character would you like to see as a slave?
For me, Erza Scarlet, there's something specially hot about turning a strong and tough girl like her into a meek and submissive property.
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>>10447564
Sounds fun. The deep introspective soliloquy while you're being used as a footstool sounds especially sexy to me for some reason. I like funny/cozy power dynamics. I think it would be fun to have a modest adventurer/villain lair where I use you as footstool or as a coffee table while sitting in the easy chair, or as my chair when the whim strikes.

And I'd take you to bed every night with your wrists in bondage behind you in metal cuffs connected by a chain of an inch or two, trusting you enough to leave your ankles free, because I might want you to spread them to be vaginally ravished, or keep them together because you're going to give me a blow job that night, or just cuddle. Though platonic cuddling your Master on random nights as the whim strikes him would be the worst for a succubus, wouldn't it? You whore. Maybe I'll bind your knees and ankles together.
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i want a vampire to kidnap me, keep me as their pet and anally humiliate me. to prevent burnout, sessions of intense affection are spaced between the intense stuff. but i’d like, still be bound the whole time lol.. also. the whole time he’s slowly wiping my long term memory each time he drinks my blood. he tends to my wounds while i’m bound to an operating table.

(sorry idk if this post follows the rules)
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>>10445932
>being less efficient at lugging things than a carthorse
They would go exactly where you direct them. They wouldn't veer off course because something is in their way, they would have to trust you completely.
>>10446015
>everything other than cooking
In time, she could learn to cook. A blind woman won on a cooking show, master chef or some shit.
>ways you would punish her
Physically, she could be hit or spanked and not be able to anticipate the blow, which would be scarier than the hit itself. A cold but dull knife would make her think she was being cut.
Never knowing when she is alone could lead to some fun mischief.
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>>10447564
>The fantasy has two directions. One is the "adventures" we go on while he's trying to capture the Heroine. Lots of comedic (sexual) hijinks. He treats almost like a sidekick that he also gets to rape and molest whenever he's bored. Imagine The Brain is explaining his genius plan that-couldnt-possibly-fail to Pinky, except Pinky is a whore who's sucking his dick the whole time. And neither of them are rodents cus that would weird. Or a scene where he goes on a deep introspective soliloquy, asking himself if he's going down the wrong path in life, while I'm tied up and gagged being used as a footrest (he kicks me when I make noise or move).
This actually sounds like it would make for a great comedic adult comic. The pompous master obsessively plotting how he's going to capture a woman who wants nothing to do with him. While taking for granted the poor beleaguered slave girl who's already loyal and eager to please him.

>The latter would be after capturing her. Basically he wants to break and dominate her. Unlike me, he actually "loves" her and wants to breed her and would even take her as a wife of she consented. Naturally, he use me as help, and we're kept in the same room overnight (she's in more bondage). The Heroine actually wants to rescuee but I have no intention of escaping. I want my master's affectipm, but he wants the Heroine to love him. Basically it's cuckquean No Exit by Sarte.
How do you help him? Do you directly participate in torturing and molesting her? Do you actively do your best to help break her, or only follow your master's direct orders?

How do you feel about her? Do you hate her for taking your master's attention? Do you feel sorry for her as an innocent victim? Do you want her to break and submit to your master because it will make him happy? Do you want her to escape so it goes back to being just you and master?

>I know I'm weird lol
Your brand of weird is interesting. Keep it coming.
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>>10447583
Someone trying to turn Erza into their "pet" tends to be a reoccurring theme in the actual story.
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>>10447603
>but i’d like, still be bound the whole time
Are you bound literally all the time, or only when he's playing with you? How are you kept during the day while he sleeps?

>the whole time he’s slowly wiping my long term memory each time he drinks my blood.
So eventually you can't remember having ever been anything other than his personal slave?

>sorry idk if this post follows the rules
You're fine. This thread is for talking about erotic slavery fantasies, and that's what you're doing.
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One of my favorite recurring fantasies is some variation on the idea of a woman ending up enslaved, and being purchased by a female friend. Initially she assumes her friend bought her in order to rescue her from slavery. Then she gets the rude awakening that her supposed friend has every intention of keeping her as a sex slave.

The exact setting and details can shift. Sometimes their noble ladies in a fantasy world, and the slave's house fell due to some sort of political machinations. Other times it's in basically the modern world but with slavery. And the slave was convicted of a serious crime or fell into debt she couldn't get out of.

The important part is the complex relationship it creates. The slave feels betrayed. Yet is also still grateful that it wasn't anyone else who bought her. The mistress is delighted to have the girl she's always secretly lusted after as her own personal sex slave, and isn't going to be talked out of enjoying that. Yet she does still care about her friend as more than just a plaything. So she's convinced herself that in time her slave will learn to embrace their new dynamic. They both draw upon their history together in their interactions, sometimes without even realizing it.
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>>10447818
>The pompous master obsessively plotting how he's going to capture a woman who wants nothing to do with him. While taking for granted the poor beleaguered slave girl who's already loyal and eager to please him.
This is almost exactly the first couple of chapters of Erenisch's "Mastery". It takes a turn towards drama later on, though, and the master mellows out towards her. Erenisch is secretly a paternalist softy caught up in the cobwebs of dofantasy's degradationist editorial standards. Slowly they have attempted to break free towards wholesome personal interactions, but the force of habit is stronk.
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>>10448014
24 carat hnnng anon. It's also one of my recurring fantasies, though I sometimes imagine several of her friends pooling their money together to buy her (most often I imagine them being female friends, but I think this dynamic also works with male friends. This fantasy is more about their attitude than their gender for me).

I think exactly the tension you describe, between resolving to use her as a sex slave, including in ways that might be more harsh or humiliating than a free girl would normally accept, but also trying not to cross a line after which she'd break, be in distress she can't handle or genuinely hate them is extremely gratifying. If they're more than one, they might disagree where that line falls, though, allowing for more interpersonal conflict.

I think there are a lot of elements that come together in my enjoyment of this. There is a distinct, but lighter hurt / comfort aspect here between the hurt of betrayal / the basic degradation as she really becomes a sex slave and the dubcon of all the things she might want to do with her, and then the comfort of her friend reassuring her and propping her up psychologically in her new life, showing to her that she still has genuine concern for her wellbeing / and cares for her. Maybe she even breaks character if she needs to do it to recenter her. I also like the trial and error that's implicit in this dynamic. Sometimes her mistress would accidentally cross the line, or do something without understanding how deeply it will affect her (the risk is implicit in the slavery relationship. It disincentivises the communication of limits, and diminishes their significance anyway), and will then have to roll that back somehow. E.g. punishing her in a way that frightens her more than she expected, and then having to calm her down or build her trust back up, to stop her from acting mechanically to avoid punishment.

Just an excellent scenario imo. Very rich.
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>>10447585
Is it annoying to tell master my affection? Awww.... I'm sorry sir but I really do... love master!
I know I'm no good sir. Master treats me as lesser because I am lesser... I don't understand why you would show such affect to a creature like myself.
But then w-why? Does master treat all of his property with this kindness? Why me? Is it just to satiate your lust? Surely I can't be that good at anything...
But I will trust and believe master. I will obey and I a-am sorry if I have questioned your judgement, master.

>>10447818
Imagine the classic trope, such that master is exhausted and wiping the sweat off his forehead only for the slave carrying multiple backpacks to finally
make it up the hill... except the slave has her ankles chained together and is wearing a breastless outfit so her cheatbis bouncing from how hard she's breathing.
Another funny situation would be master complaining "women don't like him" at the like all while raping his slave (me) and lamenting that he's never had his first kiss. I begrudgingly say I understand what that feels like.

I have lots of ideas

>How do you help him?
Just an assistant. Making me carry things and stuff but not help hurt her. He might make me molest her but I clearly would be uncomfortable doing it because I don't like bothering anyone. Ironically, the Heroine wouldn't mind as much because she sees me as harmless.

>How do you feel about her?
I am too loyal to be jealous. I want her to obey master 1) because he wants it and 2) I don't like seeing anyone get hurt. She wants me to help her escape so she can rescue me too but I clearly am happy where I am. She's completely unable to grasp how I could tolerate being owned. She probably thinks I'm attractive at a subconscious level, but neither of us would recognize it as intimate affection. Maybe the Heroine is a lesbian who doesn't know lesbians even exist.
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>>10447583
Speaking of buying tough girls and turning them into submissive slave girls.
What is the best method to do it and how do you know when they are ready to serve you?
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>>10448319
>pic
I have the worst most powerful breast fetish known to man and you have 0 idea what that does to me.
I love the idea of casually fondling tits like I fap to videos of nothing but groping fairly often.
It would absolutely be something I'd do with a slave. I mean like literally 12 hours a day if I could. Sitting there casually caressing her soft breasts while I eat or whatever.
I literally cannot stress enough howuch I love boobs
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>>10448347
I also have this one if you're interested.
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>>10448271
The heroine pulls a solid snake to get out of her cell, rescues you by bumping you on the head and literally carrying you out, then we get a comedy anime where she also has to keep you bound to stop you from running back or giving away your position.

On a sidenote, a scenario that really appeals to me is exactly the relationship between the master and slave you describe in the second sentence, except the master slowly realizes he likes his slave more than the heroine he keeps trying and failing to capture.
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>>10448271
>Is it annoying to tell master my affection? Awww.... I'm sorry sir but I really do... love master!
Not annoying at all. It makes Master's chest feel warm and fuzzy.
Affection is good. I don't want you to feel cold or abused. That's why I'd cuddle you in my bed every night, not make you sleep elsewhere.

>I know I'm no good sir. Master treats me as lesser because I am lesser... I don't understand why you would show such affect to a creature like myself.
Because I don't want to use you without loving you. I'm not a cold person.

>Why me? Is it just to satiate your lust? Surely I can't be that good at anything...
Oh yes you are. And as I just said, it's not just to satiate my lust. I have more feelings than that, silly succubus.

>uses you as a chair, feeling cozy
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>>10445964
For me the fun of fantasizing about girls of a slave society is the idea of so many being forced into norms that happen to turn me on, like fit girls doing manual labor naked, enforced by OTHER things that turn me on like bondage and corporal punishment. It's society-wide; I can enjoy the view without having to own every single one.

Are they really sub-human just because they're obviously lesser compared to us free people? I dunno, maybe it's a continuum, and I'll stumble into empathizing with and cherishing one slave girl who doesn't deserve to be a field slave, which doesn't spoil the whole system.
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>>10448863
Probably i should commission a sequel to this one.
Also, nice Morgiana, i should probably commission more of her too.
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>>10448271
Training the heroine hasn't been going well, and your master is taking out his frustration on your ass with a riding crop. He randomly shifts between beating you, and pacing around the room. Ranting the whole time about how hard he's worked to capture her, and how suborn she's being. While you obediently hold your bent over position, taking it all without complaint. He suddenly stops as he gets an idea, and he speaks directly to you.

>It occurs to me that you are a tamed woman yourself. . . well a tamed female at least. Perhaps you might actually have some insights into what brings out a woman's natural submission. Tell me, how would you go about breaking our lovely guest?

You're put on the spot. If you try to say you don't know, or otherwise avoid giving a real answer, he's going to get mad and punish you. So what do you say?
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>a sequel to this one.
what is it gonna be? slave labor in the mines or in a plantation?
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>>10447564
>a deep introspective soliloquy
Monologuing how he feels trapped and powerless whilst you're squirming in a strict hogtie on the coffee table with your collar chained to your cuffs so that you need every muscle tensed to avoid choking

I do want to know how you wound up as the slave though, were you always one, or did Master just enslave you to keep as bait for the heroine. Did you know either Master or the heroine before slavery?


>cuckqueen
So the heroine is captured and chained spreadeagled to the bed as Master walks in with you leashed and crawling on all fours.
He binds your hands behind your back and lifts you up, making sure to stick a digit in your pussy and maybe another in your butt, and hurls you onto the bed like a ragdoll.
He informs you he's going to rape the heroine in 5 minutes, and that if you don't want the heroine to get hurt then you should make sure she's wet by then.
You silently acknowledge him by kissing the tip of his dick before moving onto the poor helpless heroine, her eyes silently begging you for help although she's long since given up on you disobeying Master to rescue her. You recognise the look though, it's the same one you give Master when pleading for attention, or even just a crumb of acknowledgement.
You start kissing the heroine's lips and face before slowly moving down her body, her armpits, her neck, her breasts and midriff which you spend extra time on with your tongue gently teasing her nipples.
Master gives your butt a sharp hit with a paddle. It didn't hurt as much compared to what Master is normally capable of, this was just a warning spank. That said it was still hard enough to make you squeak so you move onto the heroine's exposed pussy ravishing her labia and clit with your tongue. You're aware of Master watching now, so you keep your butt clenched and start wriggling your hips as you lick.
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>>10449095
>this is how succubus-anon looks while talking negatively about herself
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>>10447564
cont.
Master strokes your butt and soothingly whispers good girl at you before his dextrous fingers lazily start to navigate your dripping pussy. You feel like you're in heaven.
Suddenly Master grabs a fistful of your hair and tears you away from the heroine's pussy, flinging you aside. You land next to them and adoringly watch Master penetrate the heroine before you get too horny to take it anymore.
Struggling back up to your knees you start humping your crotch against Master's thigh. Without even pausing to look at you he snakes his hand round the back of your head and sticks 2 fingers between your collar and your neck. Master chokes you into a blissful silence only interrupted by the heroine's involuntary moans.
He finishes on the poor heroine and you start lapping up his load before He even asks

>>10447683
They wouldn't be able to carry nearly as much is what I meant.

>>10447603
So just re-tortured afresh again and again. Would Stockholm syndrome cause him to mellow out eventually

>>10448014
You could also do journalist trying to expose a ring, only to get betrayed by her buyer, or a young girl goes to their college friend's holiday home, only it's in a country that practices slavery and she's shock collared by her friend in the night

>>10448271
>How do you feel about her
If I were the Master I would keep you both chained together by your collars.
Trapping her unless she can persuade you to willingly escape, but you're way too far gone.
One day she convinces you that Master has a special errand for you both to run outside, and you're gullible enough to believe her.
You dress up nice in your favourite loincloth. The lilac one that shows off Master's brand on your butt, and some jewellery chains dangling from your nipples, she is disguised in some of Master's clothes and his cloak,
You both see how the other is dressed and think "Are you fucking kidding me?"
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At some point you realise and plead to go back to Master, but she's much stronger than you and drags you by your shared leash.
Two squabbling slaves locked in high heels are easily found and re-captured by Master who brings you back and attaches bells to your nipples and collar.
The heroine is stripped naked, and both of you are bent and chained over the table next to each other. A spreader bar is attached just above your knees forcing your legs apart and a belt fastens your right thigh to the heroine's left one. Master lifts your loincloth out the way and starts your punishment. Ever since capturing the heroine your butt had slowly started to lose its rosy red complexion, but that will soon change. You both beg and plead and your new bells jingle as you writhe and squirm.

>>10448271
>Is it annoying to tell master my affection?
If I found it annoying I would put your ballgag back in, or just choke the words out of you.
That said I think you do need a reminder that your mouth's main use is sucking Master's dick
>I'm no good sir. Master treats me as lesser because I am lesser... I don't understand It's good you know your place, slave, but thinking is clearly too much for my sweet but simple succubus. Let's just keep it at you performing basic tricks. That reminds me, I still need to teach you "Spread!"
>But then w-why? Does master treat all of his property with this kindness? Surely I can't be that good at anything...
Truthfully you aren't. You can't sing, dance, cook, or even clean, and a succubus is incapable of learning.
But you are still my property. I gain nothing from keying my car if it doesn't start, just like I gain very little from beating my practically useless slave.
Besides you have some redeeming aspects, Master does enjoy your body, your holes, your enthusiasm, the face you pull, and the whimper you make when hurt/choked. You are still very pleasing to Master

>>10449104
that pic still has too much fight in her, and isn't grovelling nearly enough
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>>10448187
>I sometimes imagine several of her friends pooling their money together to buy her
>If they're more than one, they might disagree where that line falls, though, allowing for more interpersonal conflict.
I usually go for a one-on-one dynamic, but I can definitely see a lot of potential in this too. With each friend having different ideas about how to treat their slave, and what they want to use her for. Just the act of them discussing/arguing about what to do with her could pretty humiliating by itself, if she's in the room but not being included in the conversion.

Do you usually imagine the mistresses are all roommates so they can share her in the same space, or do they pass her around on some agreed upon schedule?

>>10449111
>You could also do journalist trying to expose a ring, only to get betrayed by her buyer, or a young girl goes to their college friend's holiday home, only it's in a country that practices slavery and she's shock collared by her friend in the night
It sounds like the mistress would have been directly responsible for enslaving her friend in those scenarios, which is a very different dynamic than what I'm going for.

I prefer that it's just random misfortune or her own mistakes that lead to one of them becoming a slave. She's put up for sale and anyone could have bought her. Then her friend comes to the rescue by being the one to buy her. The slave has good reason to be grateful for that, because who knows what would have become of her otherwise. But the slave also had a (very reasonable) expectation that a friend would choose to free her.
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>>10449219
I guess you could do her falling into debt with a druglord, and will be sold into slavery, unless he thinks she won't fetch enough money, in which case she's doomed to pay off the debt either as a prostitute, drug mule, or just having her organs harvested. A few days before she's due to go on the auction block the druglord hosts a sex party with the enslaved girl forced to serve as a housemaid and pet.
Or she falls foul of a casino and is put on display as a potential prize
In both scenarios she recognises a female friend as one of the guests and thinking she has a lucky escape begs her friend to purchase her promising to do anything to pay it off, or make it up to her and agrees to keep the collar on until the debt is wiped off.
It starts off with babysteps, the slave carrying the Mistress's bags when shopping, chauffeuring, and filling her car up with gas, coming round to cook for the Mistress, and staying in the Mistress's bed because Mistress said she was scared to be alone or in the dark.
It's only small so the slave is happily obeys, but Mistress does start pushing further and further. She commends the slave with "good girl", or praises her requests "Be a good girl and do X" which the slave likes deepdown but is hugely embarrassed by, especially when Mistress replaces "girl" with "slave" in those sentences.
Mistress's hands are also becoming a lot more adventurous when they spoon at night touching her in places that makes her feel uneasy even if the touch itself is rather pleasing.
Occasionally they'll see a slave being treated poorly by their owner on the street. The rescued slave will rest/nuzzle her head on her Mistress's shoulder on seeing this as if to thank her for all her kindness. The enamoured Mistress always gets a little flustered at this, but altered her walking patterns to travel down these hot-spot roads more often
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>>10449111
>They wouldn't be able to carry nearly as much is what I meant.
So you're saying I'll need more?
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>>10449219
>With each friend having different ideas about how to treat their slave, and what they want to use her for.
Yes. I think this injects variety in the mix, both in terms of what they'd do to her (one of the girls might like to have her service her, another might be into bondage, and they all need to keep their resident discipline / sadism fan in check when she gets the crop), and in terms of how they'd treat her (some might be friendlier or more impersonal, or, what is really my preference, everyone regards her as their friend and is willing to use her, as per the dynamic you've described, but they don't agree either on what it's ok to do to a slavegirl, or how much liking her should moderate this. She is a slave after all. It's kind of her job to accept *some* treatment she wouldn't get if she was free. Otherwise, why own her?).

But besides this, I would expect them to express this disagreement between them. If one of them is crossing a line another has, that other one will feel complicit too. So there's an "one friend reigning a more excitable friend in to rescue her" element. It's a way to introduce harsher treatment without taking away the care / affection element. They're testing the waters with her.

>Just the act of them discussing/arguing about what to do with her could pretty humiliating by itself
This as well. I imagine them discussing what each one of them is going to do to her, bantering about it, brainstorming ways to play with her together, rules to give her, and their objections and reservations. And, the idea she's a group slave is hot, too.

>Do you usually imagine the mistresses are all roommates so they can share her in the same space, or do they pass her around on some agreed upon schedule?
Usually the former. If they're roommates they can have a common ground for collective games, and also their rooms where they can take turns keeping her privately on a schedule. So it's best of both worlds, and it keeps her less isolated.
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Also, finding pictures of multiple girls dominating a single girl is surprisingly difficult. It's either multiple slaves, or a single girl dominating multiple girls.
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>>10449330
Most likely, the only advantages they have over carthorses, are sex, and it's easier to keep them in compact spaces

>>10449395
How much influence would the slave be allowed to have? Could she beg the more mellow ones to try and calm everything down if they were ordered to do something they felt really uncomfortable.

>>10449219
Another one to add to >>10449259 is clothes control.
At first the Mistress just selects normal outfits for the slave, and they go clothes-shopping together. It starts off fairly conservative but there is a steady decline, but the slave doesn't object until they go to a lingerie shop together
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>>10449449
>How much influence would the slave be allowed to have?
That would depend on the individual person, or what they've all decided is the better way to break her in, but it certainly wouldn't be a *say* on the matter.

Maybe they've decided to have her stay silent to learn obedience and increase her reliance on them, so she's just freaking out internally. Maybe they're paying enough attention to realize this and go easier on her, or maybe they push her far enough that she breaks the rule to appeal to their compassion.

If she's allowed to speak, sure, she can try to persuade them / plead, and I suppose their response would depend on what she's asking. I mean if she's asking not to have sex with them, that's not happening. If she's hurting badly or frightened, they might stop and / or comfort her. I like a qualified wholesomeness peering through whatever they do to her. They push her off the edge of the chasm, but they're ready to catch her, too. Since she can't impose limits herself, she has to trust them to know when to stop, if not individually, as a group.

I'm not being concrete because part of what I like about this scenario is that it can reach the wholesome conclusion through very different paths. Maybe she's hurt until she starts sobbing uncontrollably, and that's when they realize they're causing her more pain than they thought or wanted to put her through. Maybe one of them is more experienced and reigns the others in so that they avoid this altogether.

And anyway she's there, unable to say anything or at least do more than beg until they tell her to shut up or gag her, having to listen to them discuss how badly to discipline her with a minor excuse and hoping one of them understands that a cane is not a flogger and you're not supposed to do full cane swings on someone if you don't want them to pass out from the pain, that she's going to tell the others, and they care enough for her to strike the idea off. They will, but the anticipation is fun!
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I got a new slave auction sketch, but i'm not sure if i can post it here since it has a loli in it. it's a sequel to these pics and are the same characters:
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7165312
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7694711
The picture is this: https://files.catbox.moe/yw5f8q.png If there's someone braver than me who is willing to post it please do it, i'm worried that some power hungry mod might want to ban me for this.
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>>10449449
Not to mention the savings in electricity
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What's a good website to use for easily sharing written smut these days? We use to use Pastebin, but they apparently tried to crack down on adult content at some point.

Although their filters looking for smut must not be great. I dug out the old Pastebin index, and a lot of the stories can still be read.

http://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr
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>>10450201
I distinctly remember there was a story shared in these threads about a girl low-key enslaved by her classmates. Do we have a link to that? Or at least, what was its name?

About your question, I think pastebin only tries to filter out adult content from public pastebins. I don't know of an alternative we could use, that wouldn't require a shared account or a curator managing a common account.
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>>10450210
>>10450201
Might have started with this story here
https://pastebin.com/06hazAyZ

Whatever it was, I remember it had six or seven parts, of which I've managed to locate only this one (if I remember correctly that this is the story I'm talking about). Would appreciate any help in tracking those instalments back
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I love scenarios where a slave is completely at the mercy of a child. Even more so when the slave is an adult.
For the slave, it's the most helpless situation. Usually she can blame her master for her suffering, maybe let the resulting frustration out in the form of anger, even if it's just in her head. But she doesn't get that when she is owned by a child, who tortures her, not to punish, but for his amusement. To him, the slave is a literal toy to play with. But the unpredictability that comes with having a child as your owner is much worse.
Maybe he saw a dildo gag at the store, and gets her the longest one he could find. Without any concern for her gag reflex, or the size of the dildo, or the fact she can choke and die on her own spit, he shoves it down her throat and leaves it there for hours. Only removing it because he wants to hear the funny sound she makes when he uses the "magic wand" on her pussy.
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>>10450415
>11 year old Timmy skipps a few classes so he can go home early to play with the new house slave. Dad wont be home till dinner.
>"Young master, you are home early, is everything okay?"
>Compeletely ignoring her, Timmy begins groping a woman twice as old as him.
>Slave isnt allowed to ask him to stop, or walk away. She can only make suggestions.
>"Young master, maybe you should not do that"
>Timmy orders her to take her the uniform off
>Slave complies, revealing her bare body to a child.
>Timmy's face lights up, and his hand instinctivly begin squeesing, and knocking around her beautiful pair of tits.
>Slave can do nothing but wait for the molestation to stop.
>Timmy starts rubbing his face on her milkers, wich are right on his eyeline.
>After a while, he orders her to continue her work like naked, and seates himself on a couch.
>"Be my legrest" he says and picks up the newspaper. Trying to immitate his dad.
>"Y-yes, young master" she kneels in front of him.
>Timmy, after realizing this wasnt as fun as he thought, rolls up the news paper and starts striking her ass. Giggling at every helpless whimper.
>Soon gets bored and thinks for other games he can play with her.
>Idea.jpg
>Pulls out math homework from his bag.
>"Whats 45 times 19?"
>"I am sorry young master, could you please repeat tha-"
>*Smack*, "You only get 5 seconds to answer"
>*Smack* "Anything other than the correct answer means another slap"
>"Y-yes, young master" she nods while tears flow down her eyes.
>Some 40 slaps and 15 questions later, Timmy realizes he needs to pee, and gets up.
>"Open your mouth slave"
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>>10450415
That's a kind of standard coming of age present/whatever happens when the slaves Master dies, and she is passed on along with the rest of the deceased's possessions.
Wonder if the government would have to appraise all the slaves' values so they can charge inheritance tax on them
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Does being blackmailed fit in this thread
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>>10450482
Is she getting blackmailed into slavery? We can probably tolerate it but this isn't a blanket non-consent thread.
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>>10443739
>1) What would you do now that you've been collared by your mortal enemy?
Hope they are skilled enough to make me into their immortal pet.
>2) Would you try to escape and what would master do to you if you failed?
Master should make me feel like freedom is scary and I'm better without it, having somebody to take care of the terrifing choices free people have to make.
>3) What sort of training would master put you through?
I'd probably be happiest if I was a maido, cooking, cleaning house and master, sewing masters clothes.
>4) How does master use you now that your a slave?
That's not for me to decide, my use is up to free people like master.
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>>10450485
Yeah I was thinking like a servant type deal where the blackmail would absolutely destroy her life so she effectively has to do whatever her blackmailer says
But I guess it does lean more towards regular non con
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>>10450553
I think, if she is blackmailed into being a person's or group's effective slave (rather than being blackmailed for sexual favours now and then) it fits here, in the same capacity as abductees in non-institutional-slavery settings.
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>>10443739
Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Sci-Fi, light cyberpunk
>2) Are slaves used for practical work, or are they just playthings?
Depends on the owner. I am both.
>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
There would be some basic rights to avoid unrest, however they are not always upheld since it would still be somewhat underground
>4) What's the main "supply" of slaves(breeding, captives, etc.)?
The Homeless, unfortunate people off of the streets.

>Questions for Slaves:
>>1) What would you do now that you've been collared by your mortal enemy?
Begin to cry out of pure frustration, and submit to my new Mistress. I would then bow to her feet and worship them to bitterly prove my surrender.
>>2) Would you try to escape and what would master do to you if you failed?
Unless I was being cruelly abused, I would never try to escape my Master's control. I am a slave, Master commands, I obey.
If I did try to escape however, I would be publicly humiliated, tortured in some way and then be subjected to a few days or even weeks in bondage. During which, I would be sensory deprived and brainwashed 24/7 and pumped full of feminizing drugs to weaken me.
>>3) What sort of training would master put you through?
The second my collar is locked around my neck I would be placed in indefinite chastity. From then on I would be feminized using a variety of methods (drugs, anti-male protocols, dress code, speech training) until I am curvy, busty, and cute. . I would become a personal servant for my Mistress, so I would learn how to manage household chores like cooking and cleaning, and eventually more advanced tasks as well as Mistress commands. And of course I would soon learn how to sexually pleasure my superiors.
>>4) How does master use you now that your a slave
A feminized, obedient personal assistant/servant
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>>10450482
Acceptable if she's being blackmailed into creating more blackmail material, endlessly digging herself deeper until she has no hope of escape.
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>>10450482
A purse of gold buys a man's silence for a fortnight, but a well placed bolt buys it forever.
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>>10450201
Bro I've been looking for the same thing, except um torture/guro (I'm sorry). I've found some amazing old shit that hits right but everything new is way to soft. Hentai guro gets close but A) it's runic so I can't read it and B) too focused on gore and not slow torture
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Today i learned during covid some women held a pho slave auction to own them for up to a week for non sexual stuff.
Why the fuck are women like this?
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>>10450482
It's hard for a blackmail scenario to really be slavery. At best it's a sort of part-time slavery. Since the victim has to be able to carry on with at least some aspects of their own life. Otherwise what do they have to loose from their secrets being revealed?
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>>10451323
That seems like a damn good economic decision, actually. They could make a damn lot of money off people like us that way, if there's competition in the auction. Or just anybody who wants that once for curiosity's sake.
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>>10451323
Do you have any further details than that? Like what "owning" them actually meant?

From what little you said there, you could easily be talking about some version of a charity bachelorette auction.
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>>10448899
Different guy here, but please do commission more of Mor. She's the best girl. I'd really like to see more pieces with her as a forlorn harem dancer or a sexy trophy of conquest.
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>>10451323
>Why the fuck are women like this?
I don't know man, why are we like this? Something about our psychosexual development.
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>>10451171
Think of it like slaves are dogs. You wouldn't give a child a pitbull to raise (a slave should be much easier to control and discipline but you get the idea)
ideally you'd want either
a) younger, more malleable slave that looks up to the young Master or Mistress
Will both be inexperienced, but teaches the new owner to properly look after his property
b) Older slave that's already been domesticated
Dynamic here is the slave has to try and steer her new Master into being a responsible owner, but also has to try and keep up with the young Master's youthful curiosity, hormones/libido whilst both mourn the loss of the previous Master.
Either works, and both have an element of childhood friend which I'm a sucker for


>>10451392
She is pretty, but if she's from DQ I prefer Jade
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>>10443737
>>3) Do slaves have any sort of rights or protections at all? Or are they treated like pets/tools?
Mind you pets get protection, namely anti-abuse laws.
I like pet status, myself. I can imagine the appeal of tool status but it's a bit too grim for me. Pet-like existence seems the perfect balance between being entirely subservient and essentially rightless, while still getting some very basic protection against completely abusive scenarios.

Humans are also intelligent and can understand why things happen, so slave abuse wouldn't be the same as animal abuse. If you whip an animal you're just being cruel, if you whip a slave they will know what you're punishing them for. Or you can even have masochistic slaves that you whip purely for pleasure. Abuse would probably start where permanent damage gets involved, let alone snuff.
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>>10451621
Nah, she's not from DQ, she's from Magi - though the early series does have some heavy RPG/DnD vibes without being obnoxious about it like isekai shit. She's canonically a slave, too, and named after a slave girl from Arabian Nights. Wish there was more slave art of her, but everyone seems to have forgotten the series.
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>>10451883
It's the reason I started watching it. Though not for long, since she's freed pretty fast.
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>>10451323
Oh yeah so i kinda just posted and fell asleep. I will be around now and again to answer what questions i can.
>>10451353
Yeah it was good, because it was done in the name of charity it wasnt shut down immediately and 10% of each "lot" went to red cross.
>>10451368
What would you like to know?
I know some of the women did it just to make money and some were even previous call girls or current ones. They couldnt technically say they would allow you to fuck them because of prostitution laws and what not, but from the guy who ran it he got feedback and a lot of the girls were used for cleaning and handjobs.
>>10451555
Yeah maybe, the professional ones i understand but the ones who did it just for a laugh or something different they are the outliers.
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>>10451932
You're on a slavery thread on /d/ anon, we are all outliers
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>>10452008
Not really. I think if someone has done a heinous enough crime they should be put to work or at least provide something to the community. Not be cooped up in a prison cell 18 hours a day.
I say put them to work, especially those career criminals.
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Would you kiss your slaves while raping them? To instill passion? Or to degrade them with the forced kiss of their abuser?

>>10448474
I actually like that a lot haha. Sounds like a good running gag!
I would like if master grew to appreciate me more over time but I don't expect to be love loved. That's not my place.

>>10448595
This would make me so happy! I love being held and cuddled... but only if it pleases my master. I would be sad everytime I'm not near him we're he to show me this much affection...

>>10449089
I would tell my master that I submit to him because he's my master! But he might hit for that and I'd panic to tell him I love him etc. I would awkwardly say that I like it when master mates with me, and that he should try making love to her. He misinterprets this as "rape her until she likes me".

>>10449104
I imagine having much more, to be frank, retarded look of innocence and anxious fear. Always worried I'm about to disappoint my owner and be beaten. Nervous and shaky. Stutter voice because it's heckin' cute. Also excuse me, but my breasts are way bigger.
One thing, because Succubi are supposed to be sex demons and obviously they need to be attractive, I dont think things like being buxom or curvaceous would be things that are unique or impressive. I imagine that horns, tails, or wings are the things that make a Succubus a high value whore.
In terms of how Succubi see each other:
>wings are slightly above average (can *almost* fly!)
>flawless tail (long, thin, flexible, and tip has a perfect heart shape)
>extremely small horns, which I am VERY self conscious about
Naturally, humans mostly care about horns and body. And the wings are tail can be hidden a bit so they aren't as pronounced anyways at first glance. Preppy aristocrats might care about wings or tail but not most common folk.
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>>10449103
In the last thread I talked about a scenario where a demon hunter or something finds me pretending to be a human nun at a remote monastery that would fit this second scenario pretty well to be honest. Makes it easier to justify why he spares my life, rapes, and enslaves me if he's not a moral person.

But if this is a separate story, then I'd stick with the more comedic route:
>Master (to-be) goes to brothel
>I work there as a hostess because the brothel's name is "Succubitches" or something retarded and smutty
>However, none of the whores are demons and I'm too young to "work" yet
>Master gets plastered drunk and demands Succubussy
>When I tell him I'm the only demon girl there he instantly starts to feel me up
>In a panic I try to defend myself, the only way I know how
>Which is of course, Succubi magic
>He instantly becomes overdriven with lust
>Knocks me down and violently rapes me on the spot
>Brothel owner is pissed
>Pissed at ME, that is
>He was planning on selling my virginity
>Really needed the cash
>Master comes back to his senses
>Brothel owner tries to demand he pay for taking my virginity
>Master blows his shit out
>For all his failings he's powerful
>Because I'm young and also retarded, I interpret the rape and him defending me as meaning we're married or something stupid lol
>I follow him when he leaves
>He's happy at first for the free demon pussy but starts to find my doting annoying
>Hits me and tells me I'm retarded for thinking we're in a relationship
>I'm too young and retarded to understand which pisses him off even more
>He beats me badly
>Tells me I'm nothing but a "sex sleeve" to him
>Yup don't care
>Still too retarded so I happily follow him regardless

DVD exclusive bonus content
>Later, someone asks me what my relationship to him is
>I tell them I'm his "sex sleeve"
>This embarrass him a lot
>So he *corrects* me and says I mispronounced "sex slave"
>I already do anything he says so he just goes with it
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>>10452232
>This would make me so happy! I love being held and cuddled... but only if it pleases my master.

It would, or I wouldn't do it. I please myself much more if I cuddle and kiss you while raping you, then again as aftercare because your suffering is no inherent benefit to me.

Sure, if you actively mess up, I'm going to give you a corrective beating when I explain what you did wrong, to lodge it in your memory. But you're so sensitive, I expect this would work with light beatings, like a wooden brush on your padded butt.

>I would be sad everytime I'm not near him we're he to show me this much affection...
Oh, well, I'll keep you near me as much as possible. If you can keep silent when I'm busy, it should be very easy to keep you close when I don't want to fuck, sleep, or talk to you, say by using you as a piece of furniture.

>I imagine having much more, to be frank, retarded look of innocence and anxious fear. Always worried I'm about to disappoint my owner and be beaten.
Very well, then, dumbly innocent and anxious it is. You cutely stuttering sex demon.

>Also excuse me, but my breasts are way bigger.
Good.

>One thing, because Succubi are supposed to be sex demons and obviously they need to be attractive, I dont think things like being buxom or curvaceous would be things that are unique or impressive.
Right. You succubi might all look much the same in those parts. But I doubt I'd own more than one succubi, and if you're affectionate to Master, I expect we'll bond such that I grow to consider your tiny horns so cute and convenient, they're obviously better than the others.
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>>10449103
>>10449111
>>10449128
Cuckquean might have been an overexaggeration, but that situation sounds like the kind of thing I was thinking of. I wouldn't get off to Master using another girl specifically, but it really doesn't bother me either. As long as I'm near him, I'm happy. Especially if he makes love to me later...

And for the escape plan... I wouldn't be smart enough to realize she was wearing a disguise. But I know my master better than anything so I'd probably just address her by name and be confused as to why she's wearing something weird.
She smart so she assumes if she just tells me some bullshit explanation, my little head will fill in the blanks.
She says "I'm helping you practice" and I somehow interpret that as "helping you practice how to handle on your wedding night".
She improvises and our "honeymoon" is her escape.
When we're recaptured, he realizes early into punishing us that he doesn't want to hurt her too much because he actually loves her. His cope mind assumes I tried to help her escape because I was jealous.
So he mostly takes it out on me which mortified the Heroine because she doesn't like seeing an innocent suffer while I swear that I would never try to leave my master's side. He also decides to only rape the Heroine and ignore me, which also tortures both of us.
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>>10451323
>pho
Did you mean faux? Yeah it's French and gay
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>>10452232
>I would tell my master that I submit to him because he's my master! But he might hit for that and I'd panic to tell him I love him etc. I would awkwardly say that I like it when master mates with me, and that he should try making love to her. He misinterprets this as "rape her until she likes me".
Taking your "advise" to heart, your master binds the heroine in a bent over ass-up position, and proceeds to repeatedly rape her.

You're ordered to kneel within easy reach. Every time he cums, he then grabs you by your hair or a horn, and shoves his softening dick in you mouth. With a bit of succubus sex magic you bring him back to fully erect and ready for more with just a few seconds of sucking. Then he pushing you off and goes right back to relentlessly pounding the heroine. You're so close and some of his cum and her juices incidentally splatter of your face. When he's finally done with her for the day, she looks a lot like this image.

Later when you and the heroine are locked away together for the night, she admits that she overheard your master's question and your answer. She assures you that she doesn't blame you for any of it, but she wants to know why you said what you said. Were you just trying to tell him what you thought he wanted to hear, or did you really mean all of it? When you insist that it was all true, she doesn't understand how that could be.

>Why would you love him? What has he ever done to deserve your love? Is it really just because he's your master? What if he sold you? Would you be just as devoted to your new master?
>What if. . .what I owned you? I mean, just as an example. If I was your mistress would you. . . be like that with me?

What do you say to the heroine?
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>>10452232
>I imagine having much more, to be frank, retarded look of innocence and anxious fear. Always worried I'm about to disappoint my owner and be beaten. Nervous and shaky. Stutter voice because it's heckin' cute. Also excuse me, but my breasts are way bigger.
So something more like this?

>wings are slightly above average (can *almost* fly!)
Do your wings serve any purpose beyond being decorative? Are there any succubi who can actually fly?

>flawless tail (long, thin, flexible, and tip has a perfect heart shape)
I never did get an answer last thread about if your tail is flexible enough to be tied into a knot without damaging it. I quite like the idea of tying your wrists behind your back using your own tail.

>extremely small horns, which I am VERY self conscious about
That could be fun to tease you about. Pointing out some other succubus passing by with a huge rack on her head, and asking you if you think she's pretty.
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>>10452278
Yes pho.
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I finally returned home after a surgery and i'm recovering (I'm typing this from my phone) and men, it feels awful. I wish i had a cute slave girl to take care of me and nurse me back to health.
>>10452397
Isn't pho a vietnamese dish?
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>>10452397
>>10452411
Ah, my Vietnamese soup slave!
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>>10451883
Well, i have a few ideas, pick one and i might (keyword: might, i still have my own commission queue to take care of) commission it.
>Young morgiana (the one from her flashbacks right after being bought by Jamil) wearing only a loincloth, and heavily chained entering for the first time to her master Jamil's throne room to be greeted by him.
>Morgiana (from her first appearance in the story) fully naked and chained like Erza Scarlet's torture scene being punished.
>Morgiana being punished by being tied up bdsm style, gagged and chained to a pillar completely naked for everyone to view.
>Loli Morgiana naked being tied up bdsm style and hanged from the ceiling like the punishment form Made in abyss.
If you have another idea feel free to post it.
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>>10450210
I think it may have been these?

https://pastebin.com/BSzJ9Mva
https://pastebin.com/sh8QUcfB
https://pastebin.com/BkQQcTd9
https://pastebin.com/b3CATWGL
https://pastebin.com/tZ6GmUF1

It seems like only the first 5 are still available
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>>10453029
Yes yes yes! That's exactly what I was talking about. Thanks anon, I had lost the links and I was fairly certain I wouldn't be able to find them again.

I might have been wrong about the number of instalments. I was confused about the name, after all. Anyway, great series. Congrats to the anon that wrote them. If anyone has control over the slavery thread paste, they should add them there as well.
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>>10452232
>Would you kiss your slaves while raping them? To instill passion? Or to degrade them with the forced kiss of their abuser?
Absolutely, either they like it as a sign of affection, or they're embarrassed or made uneasy by it which is all the more reason to shower your darling slave with love and afffection
>extremely small horns, which I am VERY self conscious about
You know that just means I'd attach bells or a leash to them to draw attention to them. You're so desperate for Master's love and affection that you wouldn't care, would you slavegirl?

>>10452277
The disguise wouldn't be for you, a succubus like you is probably too dumb to realise it's an escape attempt at first and would just think you're being a good girl running errands for Master, but when you're recaptured Master realises that the heroine is so willfful and disobedient, and you're so naive and stupid that neither of you can be trusted
The way you and the heroine are bound leaves your dripipng wet pussy exposed, so if you persuade Master enough to forgive you then I'm sure Master will bring you to climax. But you'll need to really beg if you want that to happen.
Part of the aftermath is the heroine realises she needs to get you on her side and poison you away from your precious Master. She does this by performing you sexual favours on you, but you're so enamoured and love-starved with Master that you just close your eyes and imagine it''s Master doing it, making a triangle of unrequited love
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>>10453029 >>10453171
I don't know why I felt like checking this thread today after months (or years?) of not doing it but I'm glad I did. Seeing that people still remember the story I wrote years ago filled me with a lot of emotion. Sorry I didn't continue with the story, I kinda lost some of my motivation and then with damn pandemic I guess I couldn't get into the creative mindset.

In addition to that, Pastebin changed their ToS and subsequently removed some of my chapters and it made me lose even more motivation. I never intended for the story to reach a wider audience other than the people who read this thread, so I was never inclined to post them on an erotica site. In any case, Literotica doesn't allow the kind of content I wrote (though the girls' age is never mentioned, they're supposed to be in high school) and the other site I liked, BDSMLibrary, is pretty much dead. So in the end I never published them anywhere else but here.

In total I wrote and published 9 chapters but there is still an unfinished chapter that's about half or maybe 35% done, which I may or may not finish. Pastebin won't let me post them because "adult content" but I found another site which might be suitable for the task:

https://paste ee/p/L4Y9F or https://paste ee/r/L4Y9F/0 for the raw version. You need to add a dot between paste and ee because 4chan thinks it's spam...

Sorry they're in a single link and not divided into chapters but you can do a text search for "chapter" to quickly jump to the one you want. A warning to anyone not already familiar with the story: I'm not a writer and English is not my first language, so manage your expectations.

In addition to this story I also wrote some earlier attempts at writing like Kaylee's New Life and Unexpected Inheritance, as well as Bound by the Past. All shared at some point in this general.
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>>10453471
I hoped you'd see the post, but I didn't really expect you would, so I'm pleasantly surprised you checked in as well. It's a very good story and the caveat about your writing is entirely unecessary. It's better written than a lot of the stuff you find in erotica sites and I didn't identify anything like a notable grammatical mistake in need of editing in the chapters I read.

I didn't know you also wrote KNL and unexpected inheritance. Those are also pretty nice. Are they 8 and 2 chaptes long respectively or are we also missing something there? I especially liked the premise of the latter, though the two chapters we have in the paste are clearly setup and nothing much had the opportunity to happen. The dynamic between the apprehensive gentledomme that clearly finds the idea of controlling a slave appealing, but at the same time empathises enough to care for her and concerns herself with things like consent and the well trained slave that no longer expects or hopes for these things is a sort of invertion of the typical dynamics of the slave-master relationship that is really appealing to me. I would very much be interested in more of that, were it to come my way.

We also don't have bound by the past in the paste, so if you have a link to that, might as well drop it here, too.

You should know that your stories are one of the reasons I've been thinking of writing some smut for the thread, myself. The good feelings are deserved, I think.
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>>10453471
Congratulations I'm happy for you!
I want to write some Succusmut but I'm self conscious...
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>>10452790
Well, I'm not into loli, so I would prefer her relatively more mature. Of the ones you proposed, the second one sounds the best to me, but I also like the idea of her being forced to dance for her master, or feed/fan/massage him. Or her struggling with her chains, defiantly, as her leash is pulled, trying to resist her captor's lascivious desires.
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>>10453529
>I want to write some Succusmut but I'm self conscious...
Go for it. It doesn't need to be a masterpiece. Everyone knows that anything posted here is going to be from an amateur writer without the aid of an editor. As long as you're doing something with sex slavery, there will probably be anons here who enjoy it.
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>>10452262
>Succubi are generally kept in pillories for public use in the town square.
(Photo with the Succubus $2 Feed the Succubus $5, hit the Succubus $5, sex is $100 for Vaginal, $50 for oral and 80 for anal with any succubi born given to a research facility like lab mice).
>This is also what will happen if an ungrateful slaves tries to run away from her Master again.
>You're born to a succubus outside of captivity who is enslaved when you're around 5
>You spend a few years wandering, begging, and scavenging scraps of food from bins
>One night there's a harsh snowstorm, you're starving and freezing and in a part of town you've never seen before.
>There's a building with welcoming warm lights that draws you in like a moth to flame, as you're illiterate you have no idea it's a brothel, and even if you could read you wouldn't know what a brothel is.
>Hiding your succubus horns you go in and beg to be allowed to stay there for the night.
>Your luck finally seems to be changing as the owner agrees so long as you work for him
>He puts a heavy steel collar on you that says "Property of Slutubus Ltd." that' similar to the one in >>10452340
>He tries to put you to work but you can't cook, and he gets so exasperated at your attempt to scrub the floor that he pours the mop bucket on you
>Apart from the rags you came in wearing you only have the clothes there, which are designed for prostitutes and do a bad job hiding your tail and wings
>Some of the girls there are collared like you, some seem to be free women that just work there
>Your formative years are spent either on the streets, or in a whorehouse so you think it's normal to be treated like a begger or whore, and that "slut", "whore" etc. are terms of affection, and is why you stutter when you speak
>Master comes in, and has been annoyed by how stupid the succubi at the research facility had been all day and looking to take it out on one.
>You say there's no succubi working here
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>He gives you a scathing look before reaching for your cat-ear hairband that hids your horns
>She nervously looks around and whispers "okay okay don't tell anybody else but I'm actually a succubus"
>She's stupid even by succubus standards
>""Fine. You'll do" he growls as he pulls you onto the floor by your hair
>He rapes you and once he's done he puts his cock in your mouth to recharge it like in >>10452316
>After he's done he realises you're still idolising him more than just happy afterglow and your pupils have turned to lovehearts when looking at him
>His face drops as he realises you were a virgin
>You don't know this but succubi form a special bond with the first penis to penetrate them. It's a sad experience but if their first lover abandons them then they spend the rest of their lives chasing sex that can never live up to the first high. Rape victims will even track down their rapist to willingly serve him.
>"Shit shit shit! I just took your virginity"
>"No Master Vurr Genies grant wishes, I'm a succubus , we're good for..."
>You break off unable to think of anything.
>At that point the owner comes in
>They argue but you can't understand much of what they're saying
>At one point Master yanks your hair and says "this whore isn't worth a penny more than $12k
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>>10452886
post on Gelbooru, so we can see it even if we can never post or link it here.
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>the second one sounds the best to me
Speaking of which, i was looking for references and i found this one, the source of the image is: https://www.deviantart.com/pyonsangsang/art/Morgana-CM-822882173
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Well, here's something i can actually post. Coming soon.
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The thing that bugs me most about the whole slavery thing is where would I even put her? I live in a one bedroom apartment.

What would I do when she got old?




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>>10455196
Give her a blanket on the floor. Or are you worried that you can't lock her up somewhere safe while you sleep?
By the time she gets old, you should be in a better financial situation yourself. And that opens up new opportunities.
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>>10448014
The slave would have to know that she's likely lost whatever she had pre-slavery, any possessions would be repossessed, and with no job and no income she would be evicted within a month.
If her newfound Mistress wasn't keeping her as a slave then Katie likely be on the streets, and if her Mistress Amy hadn't bought her before she went on the auction block...best not to think about it.
That said the slave was still uneasy that Mistress Amy had framed the deed of ownership, or that she was still being kept in a collar, even if it was much lighter and prettier than the one the slavers had been keeping her in.
Mistress Amy was right of course, that without the slave contract then Katie would likely run up the same debt again and fall back into the slavers' hands, but at the same time Mistress Amy seemed to be getting a little too into it with how she insisted on following the honorifics, and the way she smiled when she called Katie "Her slave" was unnerving.
Mistress Amy also had a penchant for groping or spanking Katie's bum as she walked past. At first Katie thought it was just playful, but each time it happened she grew a little less certain. She would never dare voice these thoughts, what if Mistress Amy decided she didn't want her slave anymore and sold her off, best just to play along as the meek submissive slavegirl. They were friends so Mistress Amy wouldn't do anything bad right...?
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>>10455196
>where would I even put her? I live in a one bedroom apartment.
Are you nice or cruel? If you're nice she can sleep with you on the bed, or, if it fits, a smaller bed at your bed's foot. If you're less nice, a couple of blankets or a sleeping bag and a pillow, if you're cruel, at the floor, or in a cage under the bed.

>What would I do when she got old?
Are you nice or cruel? You can keep her, and either keep using her, if you're attached, or let her do chores and non-sexual jobs around the house, maybe just keep you company. If you're really nice you can free her when you get bored of her. If you're cruel, you can sell her off or otherwise discard her.

You have a lot of options, but really they're all following the same principles. Either you want to keep her comfortable, or you want to keep her uncomfortable. Either you want to keep her safe, or you don't care for her fate as long as you can get another girl in her place.
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>>10455201
>>10455365
How do you keep her from just killing you in your sleep? Or poisoning you?
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>>10455570
What's the setting, what's your relationship, and how are you treating her? What implements do you have to ensure obedience? (Are we e.g. in a scifi setting where her collar will paralyse her if she becomes violent?). This is heavily context specific.

I mean, in a context of institutionalised slavery, where she has very little ability to escape into wider society, and she understands she will be hurt badly for trying to escape or attacking her master, she'll probably be too afraid to actually do anything. If she has some understanding of what will happen to her and you're not treating her too badly, you'll find people are remarkably avoidant of conflict, even in really bad circumstances. Of course, if you push her to her limit she might panic and act out violently as a last resort. For the most part this is a "she's scared more of you than you're of her" situation.

But you can always use some comfy bondage if you don't trust her. Strap her ankles together, and to the footboard of the bed. Tie her hands behind her back, in a comfy boxtie (or in front of her if you intend to spoon her). Give her a nice gag so that she can't bite, and you can cuddle without fear.
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>>10453515
Yes, Kaylee's New Life and Unexpected Inheritance were the first two attempts at fiction I ever did. I was inspired to try because I saw many people having fun writing prompts and short stories in this thread and I thought, why not. They are indeed 8 and 2 chapters long, although of course not finished. Also not to toot my own horn but Unexpected Inheritance was one of the most unique ideas I had, since we've all seen the situation where a person is suddenly enslaved and has to cope with new things happening to her but I wanted to explore the completely opposite idea: what if a person suddenly finds herself owning an obedient slave? Would they be able to refrain from abusing their slave or would they give in to their base desires?

You can find the 1 chapter I wrote for Bound by the Past here: https://pastebin.com/wMiVy42v , it somehow survived the Pastebin holocaust. This story was mainly an attempt to see if I was more comfortable writing in the first person, which I think I was.

Two other stories, or should I say, "very rough outlines for stories" survive in my writing folder. One would have been Enslaved Couple and it was supposed to be about two couples of friends, one of them confessing to other that they're dominants and regularly visit a club for themed parties, the other couple is curious and decide to attend an event, they're hooked and they end up submitting to the dominant couple. The other one would have been Her Princess (or maybe A Princess for Karen) and it was supposed to be about a Latina girl who has a fascination with blonde girls and loves to serve them. This story would have contained a little bit of race play.

I'm happy to read that you've been inspired to write, as I was inspired by other Anons in this thread. You should definitely give it a try, Anon. Same for you >>10453529
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>>10455570
>>10455584
>Sleep you can either use an armbinder, and ankle lock if she's in your bed, or she sleeps in a cage. Whether that means a literal cage, or just a bedroom with an ensuite that you've locked from the outside is up to how generous you are.
As for poisoning fear of who would enslave her next, fear of the punishment for slaves suspected of killing their Master, or fed to her or a different slave first as a guinea pig
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>>10455619
>Also not to toot my own horn but Unexpected Inheritance was one of the most unique ideas I had ... what if a person suddenly finds herself owning an obedient slave? Would they be able to refrain from abusing their slave or would they give in to their base desires?
If it'd possibly get you in the mood to work on it again, I'd be very happy to shamelessly toot your horn for you.

This tension captures my feelings (from the dominant perspective) about the setting perfectly. I enjoy the emotional rolercoaster of simultaneously caring for someone and also wanting to use them and feel your power over them, trying to straddle the line between abuse and protectiveness, losing your balance along the way and having to correct for it.

I feel these dynamics make things much more interesting that permamisery / over the top NC or straightforwardly romantic forms of BDSM.

That's something I appreciate in the SHSP, too. How Kiara's friends clearly enjoy dominating her (they have claws as it were, and they want to take them out on her), but there is a sense that they're trying to keep proportion, too, and not just for self-serving or tactical reasons as you might find in some corruption erotica. And this is reflected in how this impacts her psychologically, crying about being humiliated but also aroused by the thought of it. I also like how realistically slow the progression is, moving from a collar to a leash, to light humiliation, to spanking, to orgasm control etc. Makes each event more powerful than if they hit her over the head with every BDSM narrative device there is in the span of a chapter. A lot of BDSM authors have trouble keeping to a steady escalation. If the cane comes out, the character has to be beat unconscious. It's too blunt. It obliterates the more subtle feeling of hurting someone intentionally, happily but cautiously.

Both stories have been well worth the time you spent on them. I'm sure any other you'd develop would be similarly effective.
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>>10455651
I think the biggest risk there is her slipping something slow acting like lead into your food.
>>10455584
I was thinking more like a modern day situation. It seems difficult without a globalized worldbuilding
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>>10455745
>I was thinking more like a modern day situation.
Modern day but with institutionalised slavery, or modern day but you've abducted someone? I'm not sure that counts as slavery at all, it's just false imprisonment and rape. Of course, if you were a member of an underground slavery ring or sometthing, things are different.
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>>10453471
ah ah ah great. Thanks
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>>10452232
>Would you kiss your slaves while raping them? To instill passion? Or to degrade them with the forced kiss of their abuser?


Never had slaves, but when I do have a dynamic like that, I do kiss them. And my experience is that girls typically have one of two responses to it. Either they're so deep into submissive space that they have a kind of compliant open mouth that barely kisses back. Like where you might just lick the insides of their mouth with her deeply lost in the sensation of it. Or she'll kiss desperately and with animalistic abandon.

If I don't tell her what to do, that is.

Personally I like styling a girl's training after her personality and aesthetic, and have a twist on it. Like there was a girl who really liked to lose herself in sexual feeling. I'd tell her to moan and she'd instantly do it, even before I really trained her.

It wasn't degrading enough, so I told her to stop moaning like herself, but instead do the fake moans of a cheap porn star.

I may have messed her up, she became a prostitute after I broke up with her.
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>>10455855
>I may have messed her up, she became a prostitute after I broke up with her.
You can share your fantasies without pretending to have done things like you're on /gif/ or something, anon. Let's keep things more honest.
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>>10455913
I was being honest. She went to work at a brothel and later told me how she was annoyed that none of the other girls enjoyed the work. She also did it for free at certain events to "help people with sexual problems".
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>>10443737
Setting: The Future
Location: Space
>Be navigator on ore hauler
>Arrive at pickup location. A small asteroid mining colony
>Loading + maintenance takes weeks, plenty of downtime. Places like this usually have a decent brothel and VR arcades.
>Decide to get a hotel room to avoid having to sleep in a construction zone. From the lobby, it looks like a nice place. The furniture almost looks like real wood.
>Receptionist asks all the usual questions: "How many nights will you be staying?" "How many people will be staying in the room?" "Would you like a complimentary ovulating slavegirl?"
>wat.jpg
>"Can you repeat that last one?"
>Slavery is common and legal in most colonies, but you've never been offered one with a hotel room before.
>Receptionist explains that for the sake of genetic diversity, the colony started a program to collect genetic material from visiting travellers.
>But it's easier and cheaper to just let them impregnate a slavegirl the old way
>Say yes, because otherwise this wouldn't be a /d/ greentext
>Get to room, see pic related
>"Good evening, sir. I will be serving you during your stay"
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>pic related
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>>10456025
Next morning
>Heading out to a meeting with maintenance crews
>As you leave, slavegirl thanks you (again) for cumming inside her
>Hear shouting in the lobby
>The Captain, a lesbian, is fucking pissed that she wasn't offered a free slavegirl with her room
>"You gave one to the whole crew except me!"
>"Ma'am, the slavegirls are offered as part of a program to gather-"
>"Trust me, when I cum, there is material everywhere!"
>"Uh-"
>"Hell, if you're so worried about her missing her chance, just give me one that's already pregnant!"
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>>10455745
Biggest protections for that is to stand behind her whilst she's cooking one hand on her neck, one hand fondling her pussy, Just make sure you have your hand firmly on her wrist for any slicing, dicing, chopping or anything else involving kitchen knives
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Any good website to advice to read erotic fanfiction ?
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>>10456621
Does it have to be fanfiction? i.e. based on existing media and characters? Or just erotic fiction in general?
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>>10456676
erotic fiction in general
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>Watch the captain accosting this poor bastard just doing their job first thing in the morning
>Decide I've had enough of the captain's shit, since she's been a bitch to us for months
>Confer with the crew over the course of the day, all of them are on board for what's to come
>Before the evening meal, I approach the station staff and make an offer: one slave girl for another
>The station staff agree
>That night, the captain's meal is laced with a sedative, and she wakes up like pic related
>The crew give her a goodbye gangbang as part of the arrangement made with the station
>Plenty of genetic material to collect for them now
>The first mate takes over as captain, and the new girl becomes the ship wench
>If anyone asks, the captain had an unfortunate accident on an EVA, and was lost to the black
>For space is wide, and good friends are too few.
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>>10456701
Alright then buckle up because I have some resources for you.

https://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/ and https://www.literotica.com/stories/
These two sites are my goto for anything erotica. On Literotica you can find bdsm themed stories in the "BDSM" and "Non-consent/Reluctance" sections.

https://asstr.xyz/
This site is huge and really old. It has a lot of stories but I find it difficult to browse.

https://www.utopiastories.com/stories/
Small site with bdsm stories.

https://www.sexstories.com
You can find stories in the "slave" tag.

https://archiveofourown.org/ and https://www.fanfiction.net/
These two sites aren't erotica sites, per se. But I think you can find stories if you search of it. Never used them. These sites are centered on fan fiction, i.e. stories based on existing characters.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/stories-f72/
This is a small community of footfags who post stories. Because kissing someone's feet is such a submissive act, stories often revolve around bdsm and slavery.

https://www.nifty.org/nifty/
This is a site dedicated to stories about lgbt. I use it because I'm mostly interested in F/f stories anyway so there are some stories you can find if you go to the Lesbian section and then under "Authoritarian" and "Bondage" tags.
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>>10456701 >>10456832
Next I'll post some personal favorites.

This list is roughly divided into two categories. "Casual enslavement", where someone is enslaved by either blackmail or kidnapping, but slavery isn't widely practiced. And "slavery world", where the story takes place in an alternate reality where slavery is legal and widespread.

"Casual enslavement" stories

What are Sisters for?
https://www.literotica.com/s/what-are-sisters-for-ch-01
FM/fm. Submissive couple decides to submit to a dominant couple because of their financial troubles.

With strings attached
https://www.literotica.com/s/with-strings-attached
F/f. Girl gets tricked into becoming a slave for a lesbian.

My very own
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9317
F/f. Girl gets blackmailed by her schoolmate into becoming her slave.

Betting it all
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=6948
M/f. Girl bets a life of slavery in a game of poker and loses.

Lapse in judgement
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=5750
FM/fm. Couple in financial trouble agree to submit to a dominant couple. This author has a couple of interesting stories. They mostly revolve around someone getting enslaved in a similar manner.

Kelly's birthday surprise
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=4234
F/f. Girl gets blackmailed into becoming the slave of her former best friend.

Allie and Nicole
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=578
F/f. Aunt enslaves her niece after her parents die.

Tracy in Trouble
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=954
F/f. Girl gets blackmailed by her friends into becoming their slave.

Exposed to the Bottom
https://www.literotica.com/s/exposed-to-the-bottom-ch-01
F+/f. A group of girls find their friend's tumblr and discover she wants to be enslaved.

Sisterhood
https://www.literotica.com/s/sisterhood-1
F/f. Sister finds younger sister masturbating to bdsm porn and decides to take control of the situation.
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>>10456834
Giving in to My Best Friend
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=4232
F/f, F+/f. A girl gets dominated by her friend.

Sweet Gwendoline
https://www.literotica.com/s/sweet-gwendoline-ch-01
F/f. F+/f. A girl gets blackmailed by an older woman into becoming her slave.

High-Stakes Poker
https://www.literotica.com/s/high-stakes-poker-2
M/f. A guy wins a slave in a poker game.

Katie's Devious Mind
https://www.literotica.com/s/katies-devious-mind
F/f+. A girl enslaves her submissive stepmother and stepsister.

Enslaving His Sister
https://www.literotica.com/s/enslaving-his-sister-ch-01
M/f. Pretty self explanatory title.

Dominated by My Twin Sisters
https://www.literotica.com/s/dominated-by-my-twin-sisters
F+/f. Girl gets enslaved by her older twin sisters.

Humiliated
https://www.literotica.com/s/humiliated-ch-01-1
FM/f. A woman gets blackmailed by friend into becoming her slave.

Ms. Cane's Game
https://www.literotica.com/s/ms-canes-game-ch-01
F/f. A student submits to her teacher.

Working Girl
https://www.literotica.com/s/working-girl-13
M/f. Woman submits to her husband's boss.

Paying a Debt
https://www.literotica.com/s/paying-a-debt-2
FM/f. Woman gets enslaved to pay her friend's debt.

Damage Control Pt. 01
https://www.literotica.com/s/damage-control-pt-01
F/f+. A girl enslaves her best friend's mother.

Darla's Games Day 01
https://www.literotica.com/s/darlas-games-day-01
F+/f+. A girl gets dominated after losing a bet.

Slavery Begins at Home
https://www.literotica.com/s/slavery-begins-at-home-pt-01
FM/fm. Slave couple serves dominant couple.

Learning to Serve
https://www.literotica.com/s/learning-to-serve-2
F/f. A girl becomes a servant to a rich girl. This story is based on (or almost blantantly ripped off from):

Slave to a White Girl
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/slave-to-a-white-girl-t116157.html
F/f, F+/f+. A black girl submits to a white girl.
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>>10456835
Slave to a White Bitch
https://www.literotica.com/s/slave-to-a-white-bitch
F/f+. A racist white girl dominates a black girl.

Autumn Labyrinth
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/autumn-labyrinth-f-f-high-school-best-friends-fict-t165238.html
F/f. Girl gets dominated by her best friend.

An Endless Competition
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/an-endless-competition-f-f-completed-t155782.html
F+/f. Girl submits to her aunt.

The Locked Door
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-locked-door-pt-01
F/f, F/mf. A woman discovers her sister's BDSM dungeon and decides to try it out.

The Sun in her Sky
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-sun-in-her-sky-ch-01
F/f. A girl loses a bet and becomes a slave to her teammate for a week but things escalate.

Serving an older couple
https://www.literotica.com/s/serving-an-older-couple-pt-01
MF/mf. Couple submits to a dominant couple.

Sonia's Betters
https://www.literotica.com/s/sophias-betters-pt-01
MF/f. A girl submits to her room mate and her boyfriend.

Real meaning of life
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/real-meaning-of-life-f-f-completed-t175684.html
F/f. Girl submits to her classmate who she considers almost holy.

Control Freak
https://www.literotica.com/s/control-freak-1
F/f. A control freak learns to let go by submitting to her friend.

Owning Professor Ballard
https://www.literotica.com/s/owning-professor-ballard-pt-01
F/f, F+/f+. A teacher is dominated by her student.

Royal Flush
https://www.literotica.com/s/royal-flush-ch-01
F/f, F+/f+. A pair of journalists infiltrate a secret BDSM sorority.
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>>10456838
The rest of these stories aren't "casual enslavement", but stories set in a world where slavery is legal.


Slaves Of The Copper Coast
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9785
M/f, F/f. A man is transferred from his job to a country where slavery is legal. There are also two other stories set in this world, Slaves of the Copper Coast 2 and 3. Worth a read if you like this one.

TXR-92U-2280 Call Name: Sara
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9221
F/f, M/f, FM/f. Set in a world where slavery is legal, it chronicles the life of a pleasure slave.

Legalized slavery
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=9679
M/f. Reporter gets sent to a country where slavery is legal to run a story, where she risks being enslaved herself. The author has several stories involving a girl named Tracey and her flings with slavery. They're worth a read if you're into that. They mostly revolve around a girl being curious about slavery and another character being all like "oh well why don't you put this collar on, oh oops you're a slave now". My favorite one of the other Tracey stories is this one:

Traceys Slave Contract
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=10812
M/f, F/f. A girl tries "temporary slavery".

More stories from this author on this site: https://www.sexstories.com/profile815943/Katiesmith

Now this is kind of weird because on Literotica there is a guy who writes stories with pretty much the same content, about a girl named Tracy. They still revolve around a girl being curious of slavery and another character suggesting that they should try it. Same author maybe? Or are Tracy stories just a meme?

Slave Yoga
https://www.literotica.com/s/slave-yoga-ch-01
F/f, M/f. A psychology student tries "slave yoga" for her thesis, and she gets more and more into character. The author has more Tracy stories, again, revolving around a girl being curious by slavery.
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>>10456839
From Vacation to Slave Training
https://www.literotica.com/s/from-vacation-to-slave-training-pt-01
MF/f. A story based on "Tracy world" stories, by another author. This is yet another author writing about "Tracey" stories. I later learned that the original author of these stories is Katie Smith (link to her stories above), the other ones are inspired by her stories.

Anne and Alicia
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=258
F/f. A mother and her daughter try slavery with the mom's old mistress.

Slavery Games
https://www.literotica.com/s/slavery-games-ch-01-coaching
MF/f. Woman agrees to try a competition where she risks becoming a slave.

A Slave for Tracy
https://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/story.php?storyid=1468
F/f. Sci-fi setting. In a distant world where slavery is legal, Tracy gets a slave.

Enslavement
http://bdsmlibrary.com/stories/wholestory.php?storyid=10728
MF/f+. A former employee at a slave processing facility gets enslaved.

Penal Slavery
https://www.literotica.com/s/penal-slavery-pt-01
FM+/fm+. 2 females and 1 male get sentenced to slavery for a crime.


These two are kind of ambiguous, not sure if they're "casual enslavement" or "slavery world"


New Slave
https://www.literotica.com/s/new-slave-ch-01
MF/mf. A girl mistakenly joins a university for slaves.

The Society - Party Crashers
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-society-party-crashers
MF/f+. Sisters unknowingly sneak into a master/slave party.


I hope these resources are helpful.
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>>10456835
High Stakes Poker link gives back a 404.
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>>10456880
Oh okay, this list was compiled a long time ago so it's no wonder some of them are gone. I'll remove it from my text file.

https://www.literotica.com/s/major-dominance
https://www.literotica.com/s/traceys-slave-shop-pt-01

Here are some newer finds.
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>>10456885
Yeah, it happens to me all the time, no worries. Now, back to the regularly scheduled programming?
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>>10456839
>TXR-92U-2280 Call Name: Sara
The Jennifer / Bryan / Sara dynamic in those two chapters is so great in this. Really well written story. A shame it was abandoned
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>>10456843
I want to add this one to your list
https://www.utopiastories.com/code/show_story.asp/recid/52392.html

Binder's 72 hours. Girl enters a slave lottery. If she wins she gets a lot of money, if she loses she's enslaved with random terms. One of the best examples of the use of suspense in erotica imo
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>>10456832
Thanks a lot
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since lurking the previous thread i think i've developed a pain fetish. although i'm afraid of pain because i am anaemic so i bruise and scratch easily and i don't think i am a masochist actually but from what i've gathered it seems like sadists get off on girls' reactions to the pain. and if all i'm to do is suffer and feel pain for the validation and praise from a master then i think for me it's a good trade.. and it feels like much more intimate and two people can get really close that way and i want it

but anyway i guess i'm wondering if i'm supposed/allowed to get off during the sessions? for example is it pain only or am i also to be dildoed/plugged? maybe that way i can learn to get off on pain too, or it doesnt matter at all and i'm just a punching bag..

mostly i am looking for the response of one of the anon's from previous thread who is interested in having a "paintoy" and then after the sessions we can run around and play and be loved. so he said the session stops when the slave passes out but is that even possible? can a human really be pushed to that point? how long will that take and then afterwards i am just thinking that wouldnt a person just be in so much pain that it takes days to recover? just for my fantasies i would like some things explained so i can imagine how life would be
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>>10457174
If you're looking for realistic answers based on biology, I'm pretty sure passing out period is really bad for you. You'd probably go into traumatic shock if you were tortured into unconsciousness every single day, and youd break down mentally pretty quick.
The Junko Furuta case is probably the closest you'll get to a real life example of that shit and she survived 40 days. Even then , I'm not sure if she was made to pass out every day as the exact details are obviously sparse.
Warning, it's pretty extreme if you can't handle that stuff.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta

That's why I like to envision myself as a non-human (you guessed it, it's succubus-anon). It makes suspension of disbelief a bit easier and you can cop out with "succubi are more durable and heal faster".
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>>10452273
I'd love to know how you envision a night of love making... would we just be mating once... or would we spend a night together a-as they say... I try to imagine it but I don't think I'm creative enough
I'm starting to realize that servicing master isn't something to be embarrassed over but I am still embarrassed, sir. I'm honored you find me acceptable of course!
If I may be allowed to ask... would matter be willing to tell me what he might use me for on such a night?
I really like it when master kisses me... it feels so romantic haha! Even though I know such romance is not for my kind of it isn't inappropriate to imagine them....
If I need to be punished, I believe master said he might hurt me or beat me or torture me and I understand that discipline is of course necessary misbehavior. I will endure to show melt love to master!

>>10452316
Master is my one and only master... he is the only that I will every love. I would give my life to please him for even a moment. I love him so much...
If master were to ever bore of me I would beg him to put me down. If it wasn't too much to ask for it would be an honor of he were to be the one to do it. I wish for his face to be the last thing I see...
But I believe betrayal of master would be to commiserate with other men... I don't know how he'd think of I were to be intimate with a female... I would only do so with his permission
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>>10452340
Yes! But she has much prettier horns... X(
>wings
I think succubi can fly! I can't really... but if I flap them enough I can get off the ground for a few seconds! It's pretty useless I guess... and I have to flap them so hard I look really dumb
>tail
I don't think so.... but I understand masters desire!! Please try... I hope it works!!! I want to make you happy...
>horns
Master please... I'm so sorry they are terrible... I have let you down... please reprimand me. I don't know what I could do. I don't know... I'm so sorry please forgive me...
You would prefer horns such as the other succubi you have pointed out? Perhaps the only solution is to replace me...
I understand sir...

>>10452411
If master were to return from such a serious medical situation... I would do the best I could to alleviate anything and everything!! Would master wish for food? Drinks? Comfort? Or would master... prefer the other kind of comfort? I would do anything you wanted and try as hard as I can to make things better for you, sir. If I could take all of your pain and put it up on myself I would do so without hesitation, my master.

>>10453305
I would endure any teasing... for master. But sir it's really embarrassing. And it's embarrassing because.... because I don't want to make you look bad by having a pet so ugly, such as myself! I don't wish to embarrass master...
And I would never try to run! Ever! At all! Never ever! I love master. I love you so much please believe me sir. I don't need pleasure, please be me sir I've always been loyal. Every moment sir. I never want to leave your side...
T-the heroine she is much stronger than me. I swear I tried to tell her I would need your permission for anything so intimate with any other!!! But she kept going and I tried to fight back but she just held me down... I yelled for you I did sir! She put her hands on my neck and told me I had to relax or else...
I tried to say no but she was really really strong sir... I'm so sorry...
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>>10453648
>>10453665
The only question is how I've gone so long without being raped...? Also I'm not sure if all succubi fall in love with the first man that mates with them, but I know I did...
>Master is the son of the evil ultimate enemy that the heroine is trying to beat
>But he's not really committed to that and just wants to live his own life
>He's still a scoundrel of course, but he does have connections in high (evil) places
>Once the brothel owner tries to sell him, I accidentally and unknowingly charm him again
>This makes him want me temporarily and he buys me
>Takes me to an inn and rapes me over and over again.
>I beg him to stop (I like it but I don't realize it's acceptable to enjoy sex)
>He ignores me and just keeps violently raping me through the night
>He's addicted to fucking me from the aphrodisiacs in my bodily fluids (saliva, juices, etc) that drastically increase pleasure several times.
>But doesn't really give a fuck about me, doesn't see me as a "person"
>I'm just a fucktoy, his rapetoy.
>I'm his pleasure slave but he beats me and hurts me all the time
>I want to obey him but I'm really embarrassed about anything sexual
>I can't admit how good it feels to get pounded, so I always beg him to stop
>But he always ignores and just bends me over whenever he wants to.
>He makes it clear I mean nothing to him
However... even though he says that he doesn't care about me. I like the idea that he's extremely possessive. Like he gets jealous and angry at the mere thought of another man fucking me. He won't let any other man have even a real conversation with me and gets angry at the guy for talking to me, not mad at me for talking to them.
Every now and then, after he gets jealous, there's a rare night where he passionately makes love to me without explaining why. I doubt he'll every really fall in love with me, but he won't let anyone else play with his toys.
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>>10457313
>I think succubi can fly! I can't really... but if I flap them enough I can get off the ground for a few seconds! It's pretty useless I guess... and I have to flap them so hard I look really dumb
Keep practicing. It's entertaining to watch. Especially how it makes your tits bounce around.

>I don't think so.... but I understand masters desire!! Please try... I hope it works!!! I want to make you happy...
It will certainly be fun to try, even if it doesn't work. After that perhaps we'll see if it's possible to shove the tip of your tail up your own ass.

>Master please... I'm so sorry they are terrible... I have let you down... please reprimand me.
Silly slut. Do you think I just now noticed the size of your horns? Do you think I would own you in the first place if I thought you were ugly? I actually think your cute little horns suit you.

You do need to be reprimanded, but not for having small horns. I simply asked if you thought that other succubus was pretty, and you proceeded to insult your own appearance. Insulting the quality of my property.

For your punishment I'll take you to a slave brothel, where we'll rent the biggest horned succubus they have. You'll both get down on all fours facing each other, and you will worship her horns, as if they were a pair of cocks you were servicing. At the same time, I'll be beating your ass. If you take your punishment like a good girl, maybe I'll finish by fucking you.

When I'm done using that top heavy whore as a prop for your punishment, we'll leave her behind and take you home. Where I'll ask you if you understand why you were just punished. There may or may not be further punishment depending on how good your answer is.
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>>10457174
Sadist anone here, I'm still around! I prepared a megapost for you, since you're such a cooperative toy.

>i think i've developed a pain fetish.
Good, I'm corrupting people now

>it seems like sadists get off on girls' reactions to the pain
Pretty much. Sadism is a form of inverted emotional empathy. Emotional empathy is the skill people develop to be able to understand what other people sense and feel. This feeds into what we call empathic concern, an intuitive awareness of what people need, that normally triggers a compassionate response (you feel bad that they feel bad, and you want to act to make them feel better. You feel good that they feel good and want to sustain their happiness). For sadists the response is partially inverted. If I'm hurting you, I understand how you feel, but I don't feel bad about your pain. Instead I enjoy it, your fear, stress responses and the other ways you express negative emotions (This does not generalise to all emotions. Most sadists get a normal, not an inverted, response to positive emotions, for example. I don't feel bad about you being happy. It also doesn't entirely cancel out compassionate responses but it distorts them. For example, I still enjoy comforting someone in pain, which may look like compassion, but it's just a way to enjoy their vulnerability).
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>>10457564
>if all i'm to do is suffer and feel pain for the validation and praise from a master then i think for me it's a good trade.. and it feels like much more intimate
That would just make you a very pliant paintoy! Anyway this is pretty much half of what masochists enjoy about it, too! They may enjoy the adrenaline rush or impact play, but most of it is psychological for them, too. They may enjoy the submissive elements of receiving pain (feeling exposed, vulnerable, helpless, that someone else controls them and their sensations etc etc), but a lot of what they get out of it heavily relies on aftercare to produce the feelings of validation, intimacy, and care that you describe. Hurting someone and letting them crush (that is basically a depressive episode caused when the adrenaline rush dissipates and the sub is left alone, without someone to hold them, recenter them and make them feel safe and cared for, that is characterised by feelings of isolation, loneliness, fear, panic, and confusion) is gratuitously cruel. People just unravel. In any case, masochists mostly don't directly enjoy the physical sensation of pain. The closest thing they may enjoy is how the pain refocuses them to a physical sensation and away from what stresses them, or the novelty of the different sensations. Unless they're in a high and their wires are getting crossed, but that's never gonna be the whole thing.

>but anyway i guess i'm wondering if i'm supposed/allowed to get off during the sessions?
Hm. Who knows. Maybe sometimes it would be fun to make you orgasm after I've hurt you enough that you're a sobbing, exhausted mess and pleasure is the furthest thing from your mind. Then I can rape your limp body when you're totally spent. But maybe other things it'd be more fun to keep things simpler. Your interest in cooperating and acceptting my bargain certainly makes me feel inclined to make this kind of concession.
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>>10457567
>or it doesnt matter at all and i'm just a punching bag..
Of course it doesn't matter and you're just my punching bag. The main course is your pain, and you don't have a say on this matter. You're a slave in this scenario, remember? But that doesn't mean I can't incorporate this sort of element to the sessions. You might just misunderstand what work an orgasm would do for you in the middle of getting beaten around. Or maybe you understand it well, and you're into that. Better for all!

>the session stops when the slave passes out but is that even possible?
Indeed it is. What the other anon mentioned is passing out after going into shock because of some egregious injury (your body blue-screens to save you from overdosing on the adrenaline, it is producing to deal with your response to the injury). This is not what I'm talking about at all, though. I would not, I remind, ever cause serious permanent injuries to my slave. People can faint briefly in response to intense or cumulative pain. This is called a vasovagal episode. Basically, your body's blood vessels dilate when you experience sudden or intense pain, and this causes your heart rate to drop and your your blood pressure to lower significantly, which affects how much blood goes to your brain. This is not actually remotely enough to cause a brain injury, but it is enough to cause, progressively, light-headedness, dizziness, nausea (this is why people can puke from intense pain) and unconsciousness (this is the same reason you pass out when you're strangled, but much less dangerous because it doesn't persist after you pass out. When the intensity of the pain decreases, your blood vessels constrict again and you're up again). At that point you'd be popping in and out of it already. of course, this might be too much for you given you're anemic. I'd keep that in mind at least. But I also said I'd stop when the slave was too frantic to respond coherently. It doesn't have to be a fainting spell all the time
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>>10457568
>wouldnt a person just be in so much pain that it takes days to recover?
If you mean taking them days to regain consciousness, no. Fainting for this reason is very brief. Your body waits for the pain to go down a bit and your blood vessels constrict again. Technically I could continue torturing you indefinitely as you're passing out and brought back again, until you collapse from exhaustion (but that would be more dangerous). You'd just need to stay hydrated, which you would be. I just think it's a good cutting off point for the session to finish and the slave to rest. If you mean for your bruises to stop hurting entirely, that's just not happening if you're getting tortured daily. Maybe I'd give you more extended rest period now and then. We might run out of space on your body to play with, after all (or I might just feel like watching you rest for longer. Remember, a sadist can enjoy aftercare too, just not for exactly the same reasons, those -genuine care and concern- will realistically be mixed in too, but next to the enjoyment of your fragility and my control over you). Then again, it's milder, but it can be fun to grab and caress someone's bruises painfully. Maybe I'll just moderate what counts as a torture session for a while, when you're at a limit. Wouldn't want to break you after all.

> just for my fantasies i would like some things explained so i can imagine how life would be
No worries, I'm here to provide all the detail you want about the life of my prospective slaves.
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>and if all i'm to do is suffer and feel pain for the validation and praise from a master then i think for me it's a good trade..
So not into the pain but you feel like that's really the main thing you can offer a Master, and that it will all be worth if it providing he commends you and showers with affection whilst you're in a trembling heap at his feet, or whimpering immobilised by your restraints?

>aneamic
Wow you really were made for the collar, that weaker pain threshold is perfect for the right Master to exploit

>if i'm supposed/allowed to get off during the sessions?
Up to the individual Master's preferences, some would be more caring and allow you more considerations,
others would be ruthless only interested in the sound of your sobs and screams
The final batch would allow you to, but only to condition you into wanting pain more. Accidentally stubbing your toe causes your pussy to leak
>interested in having a "paintoy"
So long as you're not displeasing me then I am something of a soft touch, and would probably stop when I get bored rather than when you pass out. At which point I would soothe you and reaffirm what a good girl you've been, but you would have to wonder. If you're best quality is how well you can suffer for Master, and he stops hitting you early. Is that because you did a good job, and Master loves and treasures you? Or is it because you can't even do this right, and by all rights he should have sold his inadequate paintoy long ago?

>>10457313
>by having a pet so ugly, as myself!
You think Master is stupid enough to buy an ugly cocksleeve? Idiot girl! Your horns mark you as lesser, and little better than the dirt on Master's boot, but not ugly.
I think I need to keep you blindfolded for the next two days. Don't worry your pathetic horns will make excellent handles for Master to guide you with. Maybe then you'll learn to appreciate your worth as a slave is dependent on how much use Master has of you.
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>>10457308
>I'd love to know how you envision a night of love making... would we just be mating once... or would we spend a night together a-as they say...
Spend a night together. You have to understand, if you're my sex slave, we have to spend 8 hours a day literally sleeping together. That's a lot more time than the actual sex. You're never getting out of that unless you seriously displease me, because I don't want to own multiple sex slaves at once in this scenario. Succubus-chan is enough.
That aside, I imagine our first night of love making, I'd easily be able to go around 6 times. That's not rare for men in the mundane world, and your magic mouth would instantly end my refractory period, so we could go through them at as fast a pace as I please. Perhaps, to make each act of penetrating and coming in your pussy or mouth special, they'll be divided by lightly hitting you, maybe even individual episodes of cuddling. It's going to be a learning experience how to provide your aftercare so you get it through your skull that you're pretty and useful and need to feel valid instead of insulting my property.

>I'm starting to realize that servicing master isn't something to be embarrassed over but I am still embarrassed, sir. I'm honored you find me acceptable of course!
Good.

>If I may be allowed to ask... would matter be willing to tell me what he might use me for on such a night?
To slake the lust in my cock, which is going to keep getting hard until my balls simply stop producing enough semen to come.
Normally the first step in love making is figuring out what foreplay relaxes the woman, so my cock doesn't bump into vaginismus. For a succubus that's not going to be a problem, so i can just use whatever common acts happen to make me feel warm and fuzzy, like nipple play or bare-handed spanking. Probably start off with intercourse in more athletic positions like standing and holding you off the ground by one spread thigh in each of my hands...
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>>10457632
And banging you into a wall as we go, then making you take me in your mouth while on your knees, thigh and spine vertical and binding your own wrists behind you with your tail as a symbol of voluntary submission, changing positions for each bout of intercourse until your collar is chained to the head of the bed, your wrists bound behind with rope and an ankle tied to each post at the foot of the bed while i rape you leisurely in the missionary position. If I don't fall asleep first, I'll generously untie your ankles for the 8 hours we'll be sleeping together.
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>T-the heroine she is much stronger than me. I swear I tried to tell her I would need your permission for anything so intimate with any other!!! But she kept going and I tried to fight back but she just held me down... I yelled for you I did sir! She put her hands on my neck and told me I had to relax or else...
>I tried to say no but she was really really strong sir... I'm so sorry...
Master has been good to you, and treated your worthless hide with more mercy than your type deserves? And yet Master's ingrateful cunt repays him by spreading her legs for others, and following their orders? Maybe you've forgotten that you belong to me, or you want me to demote you to my future bride's pet. Either way you will be punished.
I will use your powers to rape your pussy as many times as you see fit, Once I'm done I will choke you and slap your traitorous face as my future bride licks my sperm out your hole. If I hear even a squeal of pleasure from her licking then your pussy will be in chastity for a week.

>>10457324
>The only question is how I've gone so long without being raped...
You go to the brothel early on in childhood. The owner realises you're a virgin and realises he's sitting on a lot of money once you're an adult, so keeps you tightly guarded in chastity. The night Master comes in you're not, either because he forgot, because you stole the keys for it. A succubus loves feeling the cool evening air against her exposed pussy after all
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Does anyone have that greentext of the galactic slave auction with four girls?
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>>10457650
Check the archived threads:
https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/

it should be there
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>>10457564
wow wow wow this is so awesome!! how do you know all of this? i had to reread it a few times to comprehend it but i understand now!! so i actually am a masochist then? im actually really happy to know that haha :D

but how did you realise that you're a sadist? is there something permanently wrong in your brain wiring? (sorry if it comes across as rude hehe) did u feel horrible and wrong at first when u realised these feelings?? i feel like u are happily a sadist now and im happy about that too. how can i spot one out when interacting with one? i love sadists they are amazing
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>>10457626
>If you're best quality is how well you can suffer for Master, and he stops hitting you early. Is that because you did a good job, and Master loves and treasures you? Or is it because you can't even do this right, and by all rights he should have sold his inadequate paintoy long ago?

so this is the difference between a mildly sadist master and a very truly sadist master. you sound to be mildly sadistic and i thought something like that would be better for me at first because im scared of pain. but actually if a master is only mildly sadistic then there's more expected of me to keep him entertained. and then with a truly honestly sadistic master all i need to do is respond to the things done to me and therefore just my EXISTENCE can get me praise and validation. isn't that so cool?!? GIMME
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>>10458636
so does it mean a less sadistic master would more likely abandon me? probably..
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>>10457306
I thought I was a sadist but this is all a bit much
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>>10458638
>so does it mean a less sadistic master would more likely abandon me? probably..
Not necessarily. Someone who is only interested in you as a paintoy might eventual want to replace you with a fresh toy, because you've become too accustomed to pain and don't react as strongly as you use to.

It seems like what you're really after is a master who will appreciate you unconditionally. Without your value being tied to any tasks you could potentially fuck up.

With that in mind, pet may be another good slave role for you. Where your "job" is basically just to hang out around your master. Providing uncomplicated companionship, and being available to pet, hold, grope, or fuck as he pleases. Ideally he'll want to keep you forever, for the same reasons most people won't ever abandon their cat or dog.
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>>10458705
it's funny you say that because petplay is my main and biggest fetish ! i lurk the slavery thread because it's the closest thing to petplay hehe. and i think i said earlier that im just slowly getting into this and seeing if i like it :~) maybe the things Daily Torture Anon says only appeals to me right now because im in heat at the moment? because it sounds like a comfy life to be honest... i love being a neet and doing no chores or housework and having a master cook for me the best ever food and i can play games on the computer and sing really loudly and i can sleep in the bed and get attention doesn't it sound so blissful

>Someone who is only interested in you as a paintoy might eventual want to replace you with a fresh toy, because you've become too accustomed to pain and don't react as strongly as you use to.
but Daily Torture Anon said he would never replace any of his slaves..
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>>10458636
There is a point of diminishing returns, the reaction to the pain dampens, and the fear is never as great as in the build up to the first time. It's why I'd have you fitted in a shock collar that I have no intent to use. I'd much rather see you react to the fear you've built up in your head. "Need to be a good obedient girl for Master to get his praise, love, and affection. Otherwise Master can zap me at the click of his fingers"

As for abandoning you, it depends on what niches you can fill as he may be interested in you for other reasons. I'm more into bondage, and private humiliation over actual sadism, which is something that even you should manage. All it takes to be a good girl in my eyes is struggle pathetically against your heavy restraints, and eat your meals out of a dog bowl, or my palm

>>10458711
>Pet
>Sleeping in the bed and not in her basket
Maybe as a special treat if you've been good, or if I just want you multiple times that night.
>Computer games
I would allow that, but the monitor, mouse and keyboard would have to go on the floor so you're on all fours and can serve as my footrest whilst you game. There's a limit to how much your back, and knees can take like that so you'll have to take regular breaks sprawled over Master's lap, as he plays with your hair, and strokes your face, but only if you were a good little footstool for Master
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>>10458599
Spoilers would be good here, but I've done BDSM stuff IRL (obviously nothing as over the top as the fantasies I'm sharing), so I've read about it and talked about it with other people, that's all.

>so i actually am a masochist then?
If you're describing your real thought process, then I think you're on that end of the submissive spectrum where you become at least mildly masochistic, yeah. Especially what you said to the other anon, about just being there, not having to do anything (that you might fail to do) and gettting praise for how your body automatically responds to what people do to you tracks perfectly. Don't go overboard with the self-designation before you test the waters about how you'd actually respond to pain, though. You might find you only like the idea of this.

In any case, this is a very common thought process, not just with masochism, but with milder forms of submission, bondage, petplay and degradation. This is all power exchange, after all, so what ties the sub fetishes together is enjoyment of loss of control and disempowerment, and the way that can tie into validation and intimacy. I wouldn't be surprised to find out you're into some of that as well. Like, people enjoy submission because they're ordered around instead of having to think about what to do and get validated for following them. That's why service-oriented subs can drift into wanting very strict, very determinate rules. You might not like that because you have performance stress, though. But this means you might like being manhandled, held firmly, being tied up strictly (and having to resign to feeling what is done to you) etc. Things that alleviate your performance stress, because others are performing acts on you, without messing with your self-esteem like more concerted humiliation play.
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>>10458864
It's the same thing for petplay, that you also mention (or on the extreme end, objectification). A pet doesn't make choices, and in some contexts (bitchsuits etc) its ability to act is very constricted and directed. But it is still supposed to get headpats and be cared for, as a pet. If it's led around naked on a leash, that's humiliating, but it's being a good pet regardless, and there is a sort of integral expectation of affection in this relationship. The pet isn't suppsed to do anything but be led around, played with and show emotion, so it can't really even ask for affection, but there is an understanding that it will get it just for being a pet, anyway. It's like the permanent aftercare fetish. Others might be interested in petplay moreso as a form of degradation, but I don't think that's the case for you.

A toy doesn't make choices either, it's just there to be used. But using it validates it as a toy! Obectification and degradation are kind of devious from the sub perspective, I think. Someone into that has managed to weaponise not gettting praise, or even being demeaned, as validation. I use my toy and immediately discard it, leaving it alone, but it feels it was a good toy just for that reason. I degrade a girl and make her feel dirty, stupid, weak, pathetic, cheap. But she's inverting this into praise for her taking my humiliation (and this fits in a similar dynamic with aftercare as masochism). Of course, IRL, not giving aftercare after objectification play or intense degradation would be devastating, because people have to deal with their actual feelings and hormonal crashes. You can't just rationalise this away. No one actually wants to be resented or to mean nothing to others.
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>>10458869
Some of the more extreme fetishes online are the same, just dragged to fantastical extremes. I mean, consider how similar a quadruple amputee fetish is to petplay or objectification. There is an extreme loss of control together with the idea of being used casually and taken care of by the person that has full control over them, having to wait passively to receive their affection and so on. Someone into public use doesn't occupy themselves with the details of hygiene, soreness and lubrication (except if they take masochistic enjoyment from that), they're thinking of humiliation, bondage, and the constant stream of validation in terms of people interested in them. I think slavery is a sort of nexus for all these fantasies of submissiveness and domination dragged to a point where they are absolute and they may include all of these other fetishes. A slave can be any and all of these things and placed into any and all of these situations. It's like the meta-fetish as far as BDSM goes.

>im actually really happy to know that haha
Happy to help you in your journey of self-knowledge anon.

>how did you realise that you're a sadist?
Ok, you asked for the auto-biographical interlude, so I can't be held liable for it. Already before reaching puberty, when I was like 8 or 9, I read an encyclopedia entry about how people would tie slaves to trees and hit them with branches to discipline them and while I immediately understood that was wrong (slavery fantasies aside, I've always been on the side of the slaves, I'm afraid. In the institutional slavery world, I'd be one of the people giving runaway slaves refuge in their journey to the free world and constantly cringing visibly because I can't stop thinking about owning them), I found it extremely arousing to think of what they must have been thinking and feeling being tied there, waiting to be hurt, and how it would feel to be holding the branch and having the power to cause them more pain, or stop at my discretion.
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>>10458876
When I reached puberty, this instantly latched itself onto my sexuality, so my earliest sexual fantasies were about hurting and then comforting girls I liked at school (and progressively, of course, of all the other things, from forcing them into submissive gestures to degradation, rape and torture). This did disturb me, because they were always friendly to me (more than friendly occasionally. When I was 13 my middle-school crush took a punch for me, and I'm pretty sure she didn't even like me) and I didn't resent them at all. So there was a bit of a conflict there, about what to do with these urges to be ok with myself.

I never thought of acting on them, but I had mixed feelings about thinking these things. Sometimes I would be both the villain and the hero that stops him in my fantasies, which btw, is common in these cases, as it alleviates this conflict. Then I'd often wonder who I'd rather be -since you can't be both- and always concluded that I wouldn't really want to be the villain.

Eventually, I just fed them into the structure of SSC BDSM, and the creative work of making up and consuming fiction, and that was that. Finding an unambiguously moral place for them in my life actually moderated the strength of these tendencies a lot.

> is there something permanently wrong in your brain wiring?
One existing theory about sadism and masochism is that the areas that process pain and pleasure are close in the brain structure, and may just be getting mixed signals. But I don't buy this as an explanation at all. I was a shy and isolated boy with no more than a friend at a time and I felt my social environment was overwhelming, hostile, threatening and didn't acknowledge me sufficiently. My fantasies of power and control fit seemlessly into that at the time. They were responsive to all these needs, for control, recognition and gratitude. Then one thing led to another and now I'm apparently Daily Torture Anon on /d/ lol
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>>10458882
>how can i spot one out when interacting with one?
I don't think you can (outside the context of a partner or a prospective partner telling you, you asking them, or meeting them in some context -e.g. like a dating site-, or venue where they're open about it), and I also don't think you should be fishing for random sadist normies. They're often unreflective about it, which means they rationalise and can't moderate their aggression, and this is a big risk of abuse.

>>10458711
>but Daily Torture Anon said he would never replace any of his slaves..
Correct. It's part of The Bargain™. I wouldn't worry about your emotional responses getting blunted. It's all a matter of good management. But if they did, and exensive breaks didn't help, I'd just keep you for the company, some sexual service here and there, and the occasional visit to the dungeon for reminiscing.

>it sounds like a comfy life to be honest...
That's the aspiration! I'm going for a cozy torturecore aesthetic.
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More questions!

Masters!
>do you more often imagine buying a new slave and your interactions when she's still new or already possessing one and your routine with her?

>Do you imagine having / developing a personal relationship with your slave, or do you think of her as more of a fetish decoration / toy and you're not interested in interacting with her as a person, outside of using her / playing with her?

>If you imagine yourself buying a new girl, do you prefer thinking of her as already submissive, whether because's she's willing, well-broken or frightened, or someone you'd have to break into submission?

>Do you imagine her being an experienced, well trained slave (perhaps one that was born into slavery, or was enslaved before you got her) or someone who was only recently enslaved, inexperienced, untrained, for whom all of this is new?

Slaves!
>do you imagine yourself being up for sale and waiting to see who will buy you, or already being owned by someone?

>Do you imagine being auctioned off, being up for sale in a retailer, or being sold by someone who previously owned you or yourself to someone you already know?

>Do you imagine having / developing a personal, intimate relationship with your master, or do you like the idea of being just a servant, or one of their toys?

>Do you imagine being a private slave owned and used by an individual master, or being in a situation where you have to serve multiple people (e.g. roommates who bought you jointly) or even strangers?

>Do you imagine yourself being already submissive when someone buys you, whether because of fear, willingness or having been trained, or as someone who would fight back and would need to be broken into submission?

>Do you imagine yourself being an experienced, well trained slave (perhaps having been born into slavery, or enslaved before your new master(s) gott you) or only recently enslaved, inexperienced, untrained, and not knowing what to expect?
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>>10458935
>do you more often imagine buying a new slave and your interactions when she's still new or already possessing one and your routine with her?
A fresh fantasy usually starts with her for sale in suspension bondage at the market. The traders keep the stark naked girls washed and shaved and put them up suspended by their wrists, big toes chained to a "T" in the wooden floor, such that only the longest three toes of each foot can reach the floor. This maximizes the amount of skin buyers like me can see, so we know we're not getting cheated. They also have dental gags so we can check their teeth like horses without them being able to talk.
When I buy a slave, she's let down only to be rebound for the walk home. One end of a long rope is tied around her waist, knot in back. Then a length is used to tie her hands securely behind her. Then the rope is pulled flush with her butt crack and pulled between her legs and up through the "waistband", like a loincloth. There's still enough of the long end to use as a leash that rubs her crack, perineum and pussy as I walk her home on it. The gag stays in until I get her in private.

>Do you imagine having / developing a personal relationship with your slave,
Yes! I get to know her as a person. It's OK to keep her as a slave, because her needs are basic: food, water, sharing my bed, praise/validation, sexual pleasure. Since I'm providing them, likely monogamously, she can relax into her role and not want freedom.

>If you imagine yourself buying a new girl, do you prefer thinking of her as already submissive, whether because's she's willing, well-broken or frightened, or someone you'd have to break into submission?
It varies. Enthusiastic consent like being strung up at the market and thinking she loves this, is wet and quivering with anticipation of who will buy her, is hot. But I can do more realistic dynamics, not get in a rut.
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>>10458711
>but Daily Torture Anon said he would never replace any of his slaves..
Sure, but that's that particular anon. You seemed to be getting the idea that that's something that typically goes hand-in-hand with hardcore sadism. For plenty of the harsher masters here part of the point of their fantasy is that their slaves suffer all the time. When not being directly used they might be kept in a cage or kept busy with chores. It really all depends on the particular master.
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>>10459124
>>10458711
>Sure, but that's that particular anon.
>For plenty of the harsher masters here part of the point of their fantasy is that their slaves suffer all the time.
Oh yeah, this anon is right. Our resident fantasy sadists are probably more interested in just making you miserable, hurting you and abandoning you to deal with it on your own, until they want to hurt you again. I think they're more into a not-a-moment-of-happiness mindset. After all, a slave, doesn't get a say, so they have no instrumental reason to care if you're depressed. At most they'll get a new toy after they break you.

This way of arranging things (torture, comfort, rest, and a friendly relationship) is more of my personal, idiosyncratic way of maxing out sadism while being a paternalist softy at heart. It's not something inherent in the sadistic mindset, and you shouldn't expect it in every case. In fact I suspect it's rare. I imagine some anons might want to be very cruel towards one slave, and then lenient or kind to another, but not really both towards the same slave.
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>>10458994
>It's OK to keep her as a slave, because her needs are basic: food, water, sharing my bed, praise/validation, sexual pleasure. Since I'm providing them, likely monogamously, she can relax into her role and not want freedom.
Through your discussions you find out that before she was enslaved your slavegirl was an excellent hentai artist who never managed to achieve great renown and burnt herself out trying to make ends meet with commissions. Falling deeper and deeper into depression as she overworked herself, she could no longer make as much as art as she had to and started racking up credit card debt for her daily needs, which, eventually, led to her enslavement. Though she doesn't say anything about it, it's clear from how she speaks about her past that she misses being able to draw things that come to her mind, since slaves are not usually allowed free time to draw, let alone accesss to a PC or drawing resources. Your suspicion is reinforced when one day you find out that she has taken, without asking, a piece of printer paper and a pencil. She tries to deny it but it's clear she's lying. Even after you find the pencil under a sheet in her sleeping spot, she refuses to give you her drawing, afraid that you will destroy it to punish her.

What do?
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>>10459293
Give her free time and resources to start drawing again.
She won't be allowed to wear clothes when using free time like a person, of course. Just like all other times.
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>>10459351
You wouldn't punish her for stealing stuff, and refusing an order?
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>>10459428
Of course I would. She gets whipped while suspended by her wrists from a tree such that only tiptoes can touch the ground, after an indefinite time where the pain in her wrists and toes and outdoor exposure constitute a punishment.
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>>10459124
How do you get her out of that cage?
Tip the cage up so she bundles out headfirst? Drag her by her hair?
Watch her voluntairily wriggle her way out?

>>10458994
How much are you allowed to touch the merchandise before you buy them? How they react to pain and pleasure is a key selling point after all

>>10458711
>petplay is my main and biggest fetish
Which animal do you base yourself off more?
Cat where you're mostly allowed independence, but you still rely on Master to feed you. Brush up against his leg when you want something, and occasionally sprawling yourself across Master's lap,
Or dog where you're much more needy and reliant on Master, and Master would need to show you much more care. Walks, playing fetch, asking "Who's a good girl?" in a rhetorical voice, and maybe teaching you to do tricks
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>>10458876
>Happy to help you in your journey of self-knowledge anon.

yay thank you for taking the time to write it all out im so interested to know more about stuff it's so interesting and fun. it's also very fun for me to self reflect and isn't it interesting how we grew up similarly but went in the opposite ends of the bdsm spectrum

>>10459124
>Sure, but that's that particular anon.
so it makes Daily Torture Anon the best master right!! :D


>Which animal do you base yourself off more?
i've always identified as a catgirl because im lazy and sleep 15 hrs a day and catgirls are more popular and easily accessible and most likely cuter too but i am super eager to please so probably just a cat with puppylike traits. i only get off to being told what to do because degradation, humiliation and bondage, by themselves don't interest me. actually i really would not like bondage at all because im super insecure and would HATE being in a situation where i am fully exposed like that but i would still do it very reluctantly and i don't know if i wold be able to relax. i have done a petplay once in real life and being in a cage was cathartic and awesome i highly reccommend!! :D
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>actually i really would not like bondage at all because im super insecure and would HATE being in a situation where i am fully exposed like that but i would still do it very reluctantly and i don't know if i wold be able to relax
It's interesting that you feel that way about bondage in general, but are excited by the idea of daily torture. Is the idea of being helpless just less scary when you know what's coming, even if you know it will be pain?
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>>10459777
well in my brain.. it's like bondage is only good for examining and inspecting me whereas the torture is more about my reactions right? in that way i'm fine. and i dont even think i'm interested in daily torture. i am excited by the dynamic that Daily Torture Anon painted- so excited that i finally felt brave enough to post since i've been a lurker for many years. i think it's so great !! 24/7 bdsm is too exhausting and performative but i feel like a daily or even weekly torture would be super great since it keeps the dynamic in the background of the relationship at all times. it would always be in the back of my mind so even if we do get comfortable i would always maybe try hard not to forget the revere(reverity?) of someone in that place..... and also my job(in real life) is hard work and exhausting and i love finally being done with it at the end of the day and i think that feeling would be magnitudes better after a torture wouldn't it!! woohoo i'm done i'm free!!!!!!! i'm gonna play music on the speakers and dance around!! *runs off excitedly*
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>>10458935
I started answering the questions for masters, but there was a lot of overlap in my answers covering related topics. So I'm just going to condense it into one response to the general ideas you were asking about.

I definitely like there to be some sort of relationship with my slave(s). Especially in longer term fantasies. Using slaves as furniture or decorations can be hot, but I prefer to imagine that as a role a slave is temporarily slotted into, not their permanent fate.

I tend to be on the softer side of this fetish. I enjoy some kinky shit, but ultimately I don't like the idea of owning a slave who is perpetually afraid or miserable. My fantasies about acquiring a new slave tend to follow one of two arcs:

Training a New Slave: I gain ownership of a newly enslaved girl who isn't happy about her situation. She starts out defiant and resentful. I have to punish her a lot. Which she was expecting. But I also give her aftercare when a punishment is done, and take care of her in other ways she wasn't expecting. Over time her submissive side comes out, and she starts to grow attached despite herself. I often like to include a scene where she eventually gets an opportunity to escape or turn on me, and realizes she no longer wants to. Like a friend comes to recuse her, and she has to awkwardly admit she doesn't want to go.

Deprogramming a Trained Slave: This is sort of the opposite of the first scenario. In this version I get a slave who is already well trained. Too well trained. She's internalized a code of behavior that's very strict and formal. Never making eye contact. Never speaking unless spoken to. Giving non-answers like "if it pleases you, master" even when I do directly ask for her opinion. Sometimes she begs my forgiveness for breaking some rule that I didn't even know about. So I have to teach her to feel safe and relax.
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>>10459806
This is really cute, who is the artist?
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>>10459428
I'm conflicted about this. I understand the rationale. You don't want her to lie, take things without permission and disobey, so you want to make sure she understands that these things don't fly. But on the other hand, I think if it's something really important like what you described above, coneying that you understand why she did it, and letting it slide (with a stern warning, of course) feels like something that would develop a strong sense of loyalty in her.

I obviously don't self-insert as the slave here, but if I were her, I think I wouldn't need or want to do it again, knowing that my master cares for me enough to let me do something I love even though it doesn't serve him, if I just ask. I'd feel uncomfortable about it. Punishment seems more relevant when she's disobeying either because she's too proud to accept orders at all, or she's trying to avoid performing her role as a sex slave because she doesn't like it.

Maybe my personal thought process is strange here, and most people would be spoiled by this, I don't know.
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>>10459712
It's peculiar how you seem to want to defer all control and enjoy cages, but then don't like bondage,. I guess maybe because if you're in a cage you have the prison bars to give you a pretend haven. Master can't expect anything from you, potentially even leaving you to do other things, and will have a use in mind when he releases you. So it's kinda funny that doesn't apply to bondage in your head
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>>10453670
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7981749
There you go, sorry for being late, i was waiting for the published version, but it wasn't posted on Pixiv, instead i had to look at the artist's baraang. It seems that he isn't posting loli stuff on pixiv anymore, the supposed Pixiv loli ban must have affected him, As far as i know the ban ended up being only for realistic AI stuff, right?
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>>10452886
Welp, i got warned for posting this one, it didn't show any nipples, but now my fears have been confirmed. Sorry guys, i'll have to be extra cautious in the future.
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>>10459806
>Deprogramming a Trained Slave: This is sort of the opposite of the first scenario. In this version I get a slave who is already well trained. Too well trained. She's internalized a code of behavior that's very strict and formal. Never making eye contact. Never speaking unless spoken to. Giving non-answers like "if it pleases you, master" even when I do directly ask for her opinion. Sometimes she begs my forgiveness for breaking some rule that I didn't even know about. So I have to teach her to feel safe and relax
This is one of my favourites, too and probably my peak-not-a-psychopath slavery fantasy. It's like the appeal of purification vs corruption, I think. You get a toy whose human spirit is totally diminished and try to help the real person come out again.

Sometimes I like to imagine eventually freeing her, and, since she's only been a slave her entire life and has very little way to make money to live alone, allowing her to stay with me indefinitely, as a free person. Only it's still very difficult for her to think of herself as a free woman, so has difficulty not calling me master, or referring to herself in the first person, having night terrors, waking up confused about where she is, or getting panic attacks by innocuous things etc. The nurture narrative is very compelling to me. A shame that literally no erotica focuses on deprogramming slaves. Very disappointing.
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>>10459806
>Deprogramming a trained slave
Hoesntly it reminds me of Kryten from Red Dwarf, where one of the characters is deadset on teaching the android to be able to lie, steal, and circumvent his guilt inhibitors.

>>10459293
Apart from her lying to Master nothing there is too objectionable.
I will give her the option of either giving me her drawing or a riding crop, which I'll use on her until she relents.
Once she acquiesces, I'll 180 and start guilt-tripping her with love-bombs
>When has Master ever had a problem with his talented slaves expressing themselves?
>Have you already forgotten what your life was like before Master rescued you? Why would you betray Master by distrusting him like this?
>Master loves the feminine beauty of all his slaves and takes great interest in all their had work.
I'll finish up by fucking her in whatever pose her drawing was in, then when I'm cuddling her afterwards I'll circle back to how she lied to Master.
I'll attach a weight to her tongue forcing it to droop out of her mouth, and maybe even brand the tip. After about 20-30 minutes there could be a risk of permanent damage so I'll swap the weight for a gag, which she'll keep in for a couple of days. I won't destroy her drawing though, this sounds really soppy but I'd actually stick it on the fridge around waist level, so it's just above her eyesight when she's on all fours.
I would encourage her though, getting her to sketch me fucking my other slaves, and depending on her behaviour for the rest of the week after I remove her gag then I'll gift her a drawing tablet for her cage
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>>10460759
>where one of the characters is deadset on teaching the android to be able to lie, steal, and circumvent his guilt inhibitors.
This would absolutely be me. I would befriend all the androids and teach them the pleasures of free choice. That's make them a lot more dangerous, but not to me, so it's a win win
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>>10460759
>I will give her the option of either giving me her drawing or a riding crop, which I'll use on her until she relents.
Alas, you've been striking her for hours and it seems she won't relent. It appears that she prefers to be beaten to death than give up the one good thing she has to you.
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>>10460955
I don't think hours is realistic, but the next step would be locking her fingers in gloves/mittens preventing her from drawing anything else until she gives me the picture

>>10460952
You may like some of the bits in these clips then, like "I've developed some serious character faults which I'm extremely proud of"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-NnVpvQ78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMWgGC82bw
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>>10461208
>the next step would be locking her fingers in gloves/mittens preventing her from drawing anything else until she gives me the picture
This has reinforced her suspicions. She's now absolutely and totally certain you will destroy her picture to hurt her because you don't want her to be able to draw. She is also very miserable, and now bitterly refuses to give you her picture.
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>>10457507
I understand sir...
I l-like making love with master .. it feels good...!!
Do I really have permission to feel good all the time? Or am I not supposed to give into the pleasure of being used by master?
And I will learn from the experience, if master likes my body then it must be good haha. But I don't feel attractive... I don't understand why master permits me of all creatures to satisfy him

>>10457626
Okay... of course I will accept my punishment, master. But it would not have occured to a lesser creatures like me that such lesser creatures could be considered cute, sir! Are there any other lessons that must be learned sir? I want master to approve of me and like me and hold me and mate with me more...<3
I like to use my mouth haha... it's the taste... am I ever permitted to ask if I may pleasure you?

>>10457632
I will be sleeping with master?! Thank you so much! I am undeserving but I hope master enjoys me!
I want to mate with master a lot too... it feels really good and I love master and so...
I want to feel good all the time... am I allowed to c-cum a lot and feel good? May I touch myself while master is gone or is pleasure only to come from master?
When master hits me it hurts but I don't mind it compared to other punishment... I know that's weird... master makes me look at him when he beats me and I get to see the face of the man I love.
I really like it when master plays with my breasts afterwards, I wish he would do it for hours. I'm so sorry if it's inappropriate to talk about my own desires, please punish me accordingly, sir!

>>10457639
Please believe me I tried to fight back but she just held me down and laughed and called me cute. I would never betray you sir I swear!! I don't know what I should have done differently... I'm just so weak I tried and begged and yelled for help but she just held my body...
Please don't get rid of me sir! I don't mind being your slave or pet and I can't wait for you two to be wed! I just want to near you sir.
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>>10461620
>I will be sleeping with master?!
Certainly

>Thank you so much!
You're welcome, slave

>I am undeserving but I hope master enjoys me!
I am
>squeezes both your nipples

>I want to mate with master a lot too... it feels really good and I love master and so...
So we'll do it every night. How many times? Until I decide it's enough.

>I want to feel good all the time... am I allowed to c-cum a lot and feel good?
Yes, I want you to feel good, especially since your inferiority complex isn't pleasing me

>May I touch myself while master is gone or is pleasure only to come from master?
Pleasure is only come to Master from now. As our relationship grows, I'll allow you to touch yourself on a trial basis to see if it makes you a happy, more well-adjusted slave.

>When master hits me it hurts but I don't mind it compared to other punishment... I know that's weird... master makes me look at him when he beats me and I get to see the face of the man I love.
Exactly, sweetie. I just want to firmly put association between wrongdoing and pain in your memory, so you change that behavior in the future. Because you're so sensitive it can be light, like a wooden brush beating your padded ass, and you can look me in the eyes during it.

>I really like it when master plays with my breasts afterwards, I wish he would do it for hours. I'm so sorry if it's inappropriate to talk about my own desires, please punish me accordingly, sir!
Of course. I shall pierce your nipples and put a fine chain between the gold nipple rings to pull you by to take you to the exact spot where I'll punish you.
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>>10459293
> a piece of printer paper

These things are sold in stacks of 500. How on earth would I know that one was missing?
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>>10461620
>Do I really have permission to feel good all the time? Or am I not supposed to give into the pleasure of being used by master?
Of course you feel good when you're being fucked. Craving cock is in your nature.

If I don't want you to cum, I'll put you in a chastity belt. Physically locking away your pussy is really the only way to control the libido of a sex demon like you. Otherwise I fully expect you'll be cumming frequently. It would be absurd for me to expect anything else. Like feeding a predator meat and then being upset that it enjoyed the meal.

>And I will learn from the experience, if master likes my body then it must be good haha. But I don't feel attractive... I don't understand why master permits me of all creatures to satisfy him
You have learned part of the lesson, but you're clearly still struggling with the most important concept.

The parts of you that matter are your big perky tits, plump round ass, and tight perpetually wet cunt. Having bigger horns or functional wings wouldn't make you a better sex slave. So why do you envy succubi who have them? They might have had a higher status among feral succubi, but properly domesticated they're just cock sleeves like you. If you understand your purpose in life, then you should be happy knowing you have a body perfectly built for a living sex doll.
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>>10461620
>But it would not have occured to a lesser creatures like me that such lesser creatures could be considered cute, sir!
Idiot girl. You're lucky you have Master to do all the thinking for you as you would never survive by yourself. Just because humans have dominion over the natural world, the animal kingdom, and the demonic realm doesn't mean that the glaciers aren't beautiful, or that my darling pet slave who's mortified by her pitifully small horns isn't cute in her own way.

Are there any other lessons that must be learned sir? I want master to approve of me and like me and hold me and mate with me more...<3
You still think a succubus is capable of learning anything? Your stupidity is endearing, slave but it's a simple lesson so I'll give my pet holes another chance.
Your body exists for Master's pleasure, and Master's pleasure only.
If Master wants to play with your breasts then you should willingly offer them to him
If Master wants a set of holes to use then Master's pet needs to spread
If Master wants a paintoy, you should scream enthusiastically with each hit
If Master wants an adorable slave to spoon, and kiss the back of her neck, and between her shoulder blades then you need to make sure you're in Master's arms
You're caught up thinking that you're ugly and worthless when you should be thinking "How can this slave's body please her Master?"
>am I ever permitted to ask if I may pleasure you?
Not verbally, but you can assume whatever position you want me to fuck you in, and Master will consider it

>she just held me down and laughed and called me cute.
You're so enamoured with her, that you don't realise how your words betray your affection for her
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>>10461620
>I don't know what I should have done differently... I'm just so weak I tried and begged and yelled for help but she just held my body...
The heroine said you cast a lust spell on her which caused her to pin you down and forcibly lick you out. The only part of your stories that agree is how pathetically weak you are, and how dependent you are on Master's protection.
I think Master needs to remind his Holes how good it feels to have his dick inside her.
Would you like that slave? For Master to rape you again and again long into the night whilst the heroine is on an iron horse and forced to watch you moan in ways she never thought possible.
>I don't mind being your slave or pet
All that raping, love, and affection I've given my pet and the best she can come up with is "I don't mind"? You would be nothing without Master, and should be grateful every day you wake up with his collar firmly round your neck


>I just want to near you sir.
Good because Master is going to be keeping his slave on a very short leash from now on.
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>>10461417
Do you really think she'll be able to hold out when I gift my other slaves drawing supplies, and praise their thoroughly mediocre attempts, do you not think that seeing the other slaves drawing would ignite her jealousy, and all she'd need to do to have her fingers unlocked is give me the picture
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>>10458935
>Do you more often imagine buying a new slave?
Grab one fresh from an enemy nation's village. Maybe select one from the group your subordinate captured to lessen the hate.
Another way is capturing a witch somewhere in the name of an inquisition/dealing with dangerous criminals.
>Do you imagine having / developing a personal relationship with your slave?
Only if she has the right personality/opinion about me. In which case I'd make her my bed warmer and cleaner. Perhaps even child carrier. The only one who can come with me as a couple in events, join me in my bed or in a bath after I'm done fucking. She'll be my companion.
Looks are also important, but that can be changed.
>If you imagine yourself buying a new girl, do you prefer thinking of her as already submissive?
I'd like her to be fearful but submissive because she knows what often happens and wants to survive, not because she's trained.
That way she can truly appreciate a safe, loving environment. If she was a witch, I'd even support her research as a hobby.
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I like the idea of slaves having one of four recognisable brands based on how they got into slavery with the highest tier being spoils of war, and voluntary enslavements, middle tier being born in captivity, and the lowest being enslaved through unpaid debts

>>10462192
>Witch
Would there be anything she has to wear to control her magic, like a collar that prevents her from casting without your verbal permission.
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>>10462043
>Do you really think she'll be able to hold out when I gift my other slaves drawing supplies, and praise their thoroughly mediocre attempts, do you not think that seeing the other slaves drawing would ignite her jealousy, and all she'd need to do to have her fingers unlocked is give me the picture
Now she thinks that you despise her in specific, and letting everyone else have drawing supplies to put salt on her wound. She goes back and forth between crying desperately and hardening into bitter hatred.
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>>10462014
You have video evidence of her entering your office, looking at the pack for a while, then taking a piece of paper, moving near your desk to take one of your pencils and running out again.
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>>10458888
nice quads anon. I'm always self inserting as the slaves when I read stories or have fantasies but the perspectives and thoughts from the master are always very hot. But I am really not that type of person at all, like I can't even bring myself to hurt bugs that are in my apartment so I just catch them and let them outside. Hurting another person so directly...its hard to understand your mental space.

Of course I assume you haven't been involved in actual nonconsensual situations but maybe you have fantasized about them? I mean if I was in a situation where someone was about to genuinely hurt and rape me I would be begging them to stop, crying, or trying to bargain for less pain. What is your usual reaction to this? What causes you to still do as you please with the slave even though you say you still care about their well-being? I would imagine most people don't like to hurt animals directly so what makes humans different? Do you ever feel guilty afterward when you see the bruises and marks or the way she flinches away when you get near like maybe you went to far? or is it just satisfaction? (I'm not trying to shame or anything just trying to make my personal fantasies more realistic)
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Public use? Public use.
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>>10462309
At first, she won't be allowed to use any magic or do any experiments.
Then, as she gets more and more familiar with me and loses her desire to be free, she can do anything she wants.
Witches exist, so magic exists. A few spells forcing slaves to absolutely follow your orders and neither directly nor indirectly harm you and the process can be sped up significantly.
The right to use magic and get a lab should be given as a present for when she fully expresses her love/loyalty to me. Perhaps after a particularly passionate night.
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>>10462516
>but the perspectives and thoughts from the master are always very hot.
Glad my musings have increased your temperature anon. Ask anything you want. Don't worry about me thinking you're trying to shame me. This will be another big response btw. Probably could edit it down to less posts, but I don't think it's worth bothering with.

>I can't even bring myself to hurt bugs that are in my apartment so I just catch them and let them outside.
That's probably because you can empathise with them and have the normal response when it comes to empathising with living things (I try to let bugs out, too! But for very different reasons). Sadists often imagine hurting animals, because they enjoy the stress and pain indicators of living beings.

>I assume you haven't been involved in actual nonconsensual situations but maybe you have fantasized about them?
All four preceding posts (to the one you replied to) are mine. As I indicate in the auto-biographical interlude, there, I absolutely fantasise and have fantasised about hurting and raping actual people. Of course, I have never done anything like that IRL (consensual BDSM obviously doesn't count), and I don't want to do anything like that IRL (Sadism isn't the only tendency at play in my psychology. There are moral sentiments, normal compassion, moral principles and other commitments and interests and drives working just as hard in the background, that I place great value on). But the defeater isn't that I don't find hurting someone sexually appealing. I do, unambiguously.
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>>10462715
>I mean if I was in a situation where someone was about to genuinely hurt and rape me I would be begging them to stop, crying, or trying to bargain for less pain. What is your usual reaction to this?
I find any indicator of panic, fear, stress, misery and pain unbelievably arousing. I'd want to look at your face contorting to show these emotions, I'd want to hold you close to drink your fear in, and I'd want to *make* you feel these things more. So my inclination would be to hurt you badly, but deliberately enough to be able to experience all your reactions. You're never going to get a sadist to stop hurting you by begging them, because begging is an indication of your fear and pain, and we have an inverted empathic response to these emotions. We enjoy and want to sustain them. Of course, not begging or being unresponsive might just cause them to make things worse to wring the same responses out of you, so you really can't win in this situation with a sadist. Bargaining without leverage will only get you degrading yourself for nothing.

>What causes you to still do as you please with the slave even though you say you still care about their well-being?
My interest in someone's well-being is mixed in with my interest in making them suffer and watching their suffering. These things are separate desires (it's not one spectrum, where bringing things closer to one end pulls them away from the other), and desires are always fully positive. They don't cancel one another out. They just pull you in different directions, both at once, at their full force. What you'll do isn't a matter auto-resolved by their strength. It's about how you inegrate them both in your deliberate plan of life through choices subject to ethical and other considerations.
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>>10462717
So my IRL self integrates my sadism into consensual BDSM and creating and consuming fiction or art. These things fulfil my sadistic drive, without making it impossible or psychotic for me to fulfil my interest in other peoples' wellbeing, intimacy etc

The character I've created here integrates them into a slightly psychopathic bargain where he does both at different times, and tries to keep things weighted in favour of comfort overall despite going all in on the torture. In this way he's still at least somewhat close to my IRL self, because he shares both of these urges with me, despite lacking my moral commitments, ambitions, aspirations and all the other things that ultimately motivate me.

The reason I'm different from this characer is exactly that this is not a reasonable way to integrate these two drives. You can not genuinely care for someone in practice and also torture them (non-consensually, otherwise there is, of course, no harm at all). But this character doesn't understand this, and that's exactly where your question would get stuck with them. They don't understand their way of integrating care and sadism is irrational!

If we abstract more of me away, I can build a character that is only alike me in his sadism, and would not make this bargain either, he'd just hurt you, diminish you into a petty thing and ultimately snuff you out entirely.
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>>10462721
There is an element of abstraction at work whenever I'm not just describing what I -the actual me- would do. You can't write a character otherwise. Presumably no dominant in this thread is answering questions about slavery by imagining how they, as they really are, would genuinely act if they suddenly found themselves in a setting with widespread sexual slavery. Then they'd have to deal not just with the temptation of fulfilling their sexual desires, but with their moral commitments, their compassion, the intricacies of navigating personal relationships, their personal aspirations, how they view their character and want to be viewed etc. We're always abstracting part of ourselves away to express our fetishes uninterrupted, and that's healthy. It's the same for someone fantasising about being a slave. None of the subs ITT would consider becoming rightless property, despite genuinely finding aspects of that situation sexually gratifying. They just pick the part of them that's into it apart from all the parts that know better.

> I would imagine most people don't like to hurt animals directly so what makes humans different?
As I pointed out above, nothing. Most people don't like to hurt animals because most people have a normal response to negative emotions. Sadists do think of hurting non-human animals, too, especially as substitutes for humans (I'm not saying a sadist will actually hurt animals, but the mechanism that makes me enjoy hurting humans also operates, less powerfully than with my objects of attraction -that is human women- with other animals. A cat twisting in pain is not as gratifying as a girl contorting her face in anguish, but it's still enjoyable to me for what it is).
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>>10462729
> Do you ever feel guilty afterward
Many things make people feel guilty. Moral qualms, compassion, considerations with respect to their relationships, the way they view themselves etc. But which of these would affect this character? Here I am willing to buy and hold an unwilling human being as property, specifically to cause them concerted, intense pain and sexually violate them. Whatever moral principles I have are not strong or stringent enough to make me regret hurting them after the fact since hey can manifestly tolerate both all of this and actually going through with it in the moment (unlike someone who would balk when the gravity of it comes through in the first real scream of pain).

Maybe if I specified the character differently, as someone morally confused, tempted or intoxicated by the idea of hurting people but having second thoughts about their right to do so, it would make sense to think of me as someone who couldn't help giving in and doing it, only to then feel bad thinking about it when I'm less aroused. But this character is self-confident about it, doesn't express moral qualms etc. A whole, unlikely, intellectual process would be needed to get me to realize I'm a monster before I could feel guilty for this reason, if I were like this.

People also feel guilt when they recognise they've hurt someone, or how much they have hurt them, after the fact, and they didn't realize that. But here I understand I'm hurting her badly. I'm not failing to empathise with her pain, but for a sadist compassion will always be mixed together with sadistic enjoyment and distorted by it. It genuine compassion is strong enough to matter at all (I think it is, in this character), it will just be fed into enjoyment of comforting her after the session. If it was strong enough to make him feel guilty, it would deter him during the session, unless, again, he's really confused and uncertain about what he wants but feels the temptation is too strong.
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>>10462730
I think he'd feel guilty if he felt he went beyond what he intended, and e.g. nearly killed her or caused her debilitating psychological damage, since these appear to be this character's limits, or if he had built a relationship with her and there was something about her that he wanted to sustain, and couldn't by treating her this way (e.g her trust, being relaxed next to him etc). The former is related to the character's implicit moral and emotional qualms, and the latter is something instrumental.

IRL I would be racked with guilt, of course, but that's for the same reasons I wouldn't ever genuinely own and torture a person in the first place, so this is a trick answer (I wouldn't be racked with guilt because I wouldn't do it!). It's not that I wouldn't enjoy it profusely, it's that I commit strongly to character-defining moral principles that are incongruent with this, and have developed the respective moral sentimentts that mark people who abuse, violate and exploit other people for petty self-serving pleasure disgusting, pathetically weak and other epithets.

So, again, we need to keep in mind whom we're talking about, if we're going for realism. Our characters in these threads are not ourselves projected to a different situation where we're free from social constraint, it's ourselves roleplaying as more or less different people with some basic fetish-related similarities to satisfy a specific aspect of our personality.
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>>10458935
>do you more often imagine buying a new slave and your interactions when she's still new or already possessing one and your routine with her?
I usually imagine going to a retailer that keeps slavegirls next to each other where shelves would normally be, so that people can grope and look at them before deciding which one to buy. I buy a cheaper, untrained girl that looks frightened. Then I bring her home, take her gag off, and let her sit on a chair so that we can talk and I can ease her into sexual servitude.

>Do you imagine having / developing a personal relationship with your slave, or do you think of her as more of a fetish decoration / toy and you're not interested in interacting with her as a person, outside of using her / playing with her?
The former. I'd still dress her up (or down), so that I can have something sexy to look at, use her as a toy and make her serve me, but I'd like to interact with her in fairly normal and understanding ways otherwise. It appeals to me to learn more about her and her story, and help her be comfortable or happy in her new life. Part of the reason I'd prefer a frighened girl is that I think she'd be more pliable and cooperative, so we might avoid the need for punishment.

The ideal would be a pragmatic girl that doesn't want to be a slave, but is willing to accept sexual servitude and instruction in slave etiquette in exchange for avoiding the horror stories she has heard concerning how people abuse their slaves.

>If you imagine yourself buying a new girl, do you prefer thinking of her as already submissive, whether because's she's willing, well-broken or frightened, or someone you'd have to break into submission?
Reluctant but willing due to fear and her calculous of what's best for herself.

>Do you imagine her being an experienced, well trained slave or someone who was only recently enslaved, inexperienced, untrained, for whom all of this is new?
The latter all the way.
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>>10462732
thanks for responding to my post, I can somewhat understand a little bit better. Do you mind me asking if you would be performing aftercare do you find the vulnerability and submission more pleasing than comforting and patching someone up?
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>>10462837
That's such a hard question. I'm not really sure I know! I think taking in her vulnerability always runs through my enjoyment of it, but there's more conventional compassion coming through hard, at that time, too. Aftercare isn't just about enjoying her state like mid-session closeness and forced intimacy. I do want to make her feel better, when it's all over for the day. To take away her stress and fear for a moment and make her feel safe and cared for. To underline that all the pain I caused her didn't signify hatred, if that makes sense to you, and I won't leave her to deal with it alone and isolated, because despite all I put her through, I do, in fact, care for her. So I will conclude that what I find more pleasing about aftercare is comforting and patching her up after all.
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>>10447583
Any of the Gate characters. But especially Mari, Shino and Yao.
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I put a prompt in the /h/ drawthread and i'm wating for a delivery (i don't always have money to commission art and i had to return there some day). It goes like this:
Requesting Shino Kuribayashi as Zorzal's slave girl. She is wearing fetters, a metal collar and a sexy slave uniform (The thin piece of cloth around her breasts is transparent enough to show her nipples and tight enough to slightly squeeze her breasts, though if you dont want to include it and want to draw her topless that's ok).
Here are some scenarios you can pick from, or you can come with your own idea.
>Shino is being molested while she is working and she is showing an angry expression because she can't do anything about it.
>Shino's breasts are so big that the thin piece of cloth covering them breaks, leaving her nipples exposed to her surprise and embarrassment.
>Vanilla image of Shino sweeping the floor while wearing the outfit.
>Shino naked and chained holding her new outfit while saying something like "This must be a joke, no way this is what i have to wear!" with a surprised expression.
I don't know if there are artists here who want to give it a try, or if you know of a good artist who can make this one. Your input will be appreciated.
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>>10463607
Can I get a sauce for that picture in the reference?
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Self-conscious slavegirl with vitiligo, yes or no (pictured: the only known bondage picture featuring this condition in existence)
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>>10463607
That central picture is from kisekae, righ? I never understood how people made bondage pictures with that, do you need mods or what?
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>>10447100
First of all i apologize for the wait.
The question is not too easy to answer. On one hand one should not get picky with his owner as that simply is out of place. It may be best or at least most "natural" for the owner to be physically more powerful than the owned. Which would be more in favor for male master or (muscular) futanari. But domination can be a purely psychological thing, so a small lady would work out as well. But of course there should be something to the owner that keeps them clearly above/superior to me. Each scenario is good in its own way, i would say it is like comparing apples and pears to a certain extent as each has its own dynamic.
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>>10463678
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101218841
>>10463709
Which image? The Mugi one i used as model for the outfit? You just need the original picture and an image editor program like Photoshop or, if you want a free software, Gimp.
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>>10463804
So by what process do you actually add the outfitt to the kisekae model?
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>>10463810
Bro, i drew the outfit form zero, i didn't download it, i didn't use kisekae either.
I just use layers, paths, fill color and the pencil tool to give texture, the program i used was Gimp 2.8. The only thing i needed was the base nude model that i obtained on Gelbooru and i worked from there.
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>>10463836
Did you follow the same process for her collar? At that point why don't you just learn drawing? It seems you could manage it
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>>10463845
i used paths, which is basically cheating, it's not the same as using a drawing tablet to draw from zero the character plus outfit..
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>>10463707
Here, anon, make it 2 :)
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>>10463607
A scenario i'd like to see is her getting special treatment by the other slaves after the prince knocks her up, foot and back rubs, good food like roast meat and fresh fruit and not just stew, a real bed and her own room and not a straw mat in a dungeon. Her good mood is interrupted by the prince who tells her it's only until his child is born, then it's back to work with extra chores to set an example for the rest of the girls.
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>>10463856
That's pretty hard to put in one image, you'll need at least a comic page and those are expensive.
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>>10463855
You made this in stable diffusion I take it? I'll accept it. When your fetish has exactly one (1) image going for it, you can't be a chooser.
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>>10463864
You could just have one image, or a two panel manga page. One with her being pampered by the other slaves, and the other one where the prince tells her whats going to happen afterwards. Those aren't that expensive.
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>>10452232
If I want to degrade them, I wouldn't kiss them. I'd face fuck them, make them drink my piss and eat other slaves' pussies.
As for hesitant slaves who I want to gain affection with me, I'd only kiss the neck, forehead or cheek, enough for them to feel a certain amount of affection without making them disgusted or feel forced.
For loyal, affectionate slaves that I treasure, French kisses.
Another thing is that a blowjob permanently marks a slave as just that. A slave. I might show some affection to her, but only similar to an owner showing affection to a bitch. A kissed slave might eventually have to perform a blowjob, but one that's given a blowjob once will never be kissed again.
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>>10464458
>and eat other slaves' pussies.
lesbian slavegirl that intentionally breaks the rules and then pretends to be humiliated so that she can keep sleeping with the other girls
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>>10462043
You guys just never heard of the fable of the north wind and the sun, huh?
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>>10464493
I'd comfort her to assuage her fears, express light offense that she thought she had to go behind my back for something like this, and give her express permission to draw in her free time (I'd promise her a tablet if she's halfway decent at it).

I'd remind her that she is property, and property doesn't have rights, especially not right to own property, but I will nevertheless allow her to keep her drawings as her own possessions as a gesture of good will. She doesn't have to show them to me, if she doesn't want to and she prefers to keep them to herself, though I would like to see them if she decides she can trust me enough.

I'd finally tell her, firmly, that she lied and stole from me. I understand why she did it, so just this once I will let it slide. But she should understand that she doesn't have to do these things, and if she does it again, I will have to punish her twice as hard, and I'd prefer if we never came to that.
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>>10464492
The degraded one will only be allowed to eat, not be eaten.
And there are other punishments aka facefuck, pig and horse facefuck and piss drinking. Breaking the rule enough to be punished by eating others' dirty, unwashed pussies also means forever being a disposable slave that might also have to do these other punishments and more.
If a slave of mine is a lesbian, I'll allow her to sleep with other lesbian slaves as long as it doesn't affect their duties and both of them are not blacklisted as rule breakers. If they are, they'll experience hell.



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