This thread is dedicated to horsecock in all its massive musky glory
furry is ok here?
>>10572547I don't think so, but I don't know the fucking rules anymore so we'll find out when/if the jannies come in.
>>10572547It is not no.But jannies are shit at their jobs.
>>10572756>>10573116Shame there is no separated board for furry
>>10572266what model did you use?
>>10573404That's the problem with pushing a containment board in as far away a dusty corner as possible so we can forget about it's existence: you risk that the people you want to contain there can't find it and shit up the main boards anyway.
>>10573429What's your point? Without that containment board they don't have any option beside shitting up the main boards and getting jannied.
>>10572547lol no
>>10573736My point is that it's too out of sight to siphon off all the troublemakers. It's good it exists. It's good that it's out of the way. But if it's so stowed away that the furries don't know it exists, it might as well not exist.
>>10574000It's still better if it exist. And why it must be hidden? Why can't it be on home page in adult directory?Right now people banned with reason "no furry allowed" but if it would be "no furry allowed outside of furry board" then all troublemaker would end up there. Problem solved.
>>10574110See, now you're just deliberately avoiding getting my point for the sake of argueing. No sense in trying to get it through your skull then. Have a nice day Anon.
One day there'll be a /d/ horsecock thread that isn't predominantly low quality /aco/ western garbage.I guess the OP and retard trying to post furshit on top of that should have been enough of a red flag to not bother a second time.
>>10574393Your point is - "why make new board if no one wound never find coz for some reason unknown it would be definitely hidden in a corner"My point - it's still better, then not having separated space for certain individuals. And it should not be hidden that much.I don't even understand why you started arguing about it.
>>10574443Make your own thread with rules and that day will come in no time.
>>10574511No, that's not the point I'm trying to make. It wasn't even argueing from me, more of a comment on how the containment we have now isn't as efficient as it could be. I replied once because it seemed my point was unclear to you. Clarification, not argument. I really have wasted too much time on this already. Don't bother replying.
>>10574512I blame Dmitrys for my horsecocked cowgirls subfetish
Lol, jannie deleted my post for "western styled image" while furry images are still here. As other western styled images too. What jannie mean by that?
>>10574232>actual bike>Tifa confirmed a futaOh my DIO!
>>10572547This isn't even fucking furry anyway, it's standard kemono (which let's be real, is furry, stop denying it)
>>10575017This place is horribly inconsistent...
>>10574551Don't act like you don't waste your time on far more meaningless thing.
>>10575200I know that this is kemonomimi.I didn't ask about picture I posted. I asked about others posts like this one >>10572287
>>10572266>ai fingerslmao kys op
>>10575215Come to think of it, you might not even be trolling here. You might in fact be proving my point better than I ever could. Depends on if this single word means anything to to you: /trash/
>>10575601/Trash/ is trash. I know about it. Back then all it took me to find out is asking once in /b/:"Where can I post furry?" And it's not board for furry, it's a place for every garbage possible. And I don't want to dig through piles of shit to find few furry threads about diapers and bara.You have proved nothing.
Sigh, it's days like these I wish I could just blow my damn brains out and be done with it all. Unfortunately there is no rest for the wicked, no matter how often I try.
>>10575601/trash/ is where the furries are for now, but many still want a proper board so that we don't have to get spammed out by every kpop or fatposting thread. It would be nice to have some more niche topics like you see on /d/ because there isn't a constant tide of actual trash here.
>>10572278who drew this?
>>10574238>>10574237>>10572547>>10572270>>10572266Sauce on these?
>>10576857Live dammit! Live!
flist content bump
>>10577462cumalt
>>105768571) OP post is ai and can't be sourced2) you clearly didn't even attempt saucenao with any of the others
>>10572270big Daiwa cock
>>10573404there is >>>/trash/
>>10578832>>10575765
>>10579023Trash is what you get because it is what it is. It belongs there and will remain there.
>>10575517What's wrong with making niche fetish AI art? It's fucking incredible we live in an age where we can press a button and get horsecock ball-bra futa porn, this shit was 400x400 blurry garbage only a few months ago now it's damn near indistinguishable if you touch up the weird parts in PS
you better not know what happened to the catboy next
>>10579464I can't speak for that guy, but even when there's no very obvious issue with an AI image it still looks "off" and boring too me. I'm not saying there's no ugly human art, but generally speaking I'd rather look at an amateurish but actual drawing or even at nothing at all rather than at AI """art""".
>>10579608I agree with this 100%, AI art just doesn't arouse me in any way, even when it looks "good" and doesn't have fucked up hands. A big part of pornography is understanding the intention of the artist, and AI art doesn't have intention. the fact that people will spam 100+ virtually identical images and fill up the thread also doesn't help.
>>10572266which generator do people use for these anyway? Is this attempt like 200 to get something that doesn't look cursed?
>>10574259I swear I played a weg with this as the main character.
>>10580103Same. Think it was Eqellum/Fabula Carmen Cigni or something similar?
>>10580549I can't remember the name, but I there was a guest house you were staying in and a bathroom scene where you either caught someone fapping or fapped yourself. Then there was a castle to explore or something similar. If I could remember the name I'd give it another look, I remember it being pretty fun.Maybe there were centaurs? Might have been another game, though.
>>10580648Yeah, your description matches what I remember exactly. I looked it up and the name is Equellum/Fabula: Carmen Cygni. I was pretty damn close.
>>10580704Nice. Is it finished or did it get abandoned?
>>10572273This is fucking hot, anymore in this style?
>>10582698Looks AI generated, so there's infinitely more in that style.
>>10582889It most certainly is but it's a surprisingly decent futa centaurReal artists almost always either don't know how to draw horses, or draw the cocks/balls way too big.
>>10583223>draw the cocks/balls way too big.That's a problem with futa art in general.
>>10572266>four fingersEvery time
>>10573902>mfw no rule against shitty art/autistic fetishesI go limp faster on this board than any other with all the garbage it allows these days.
>>10588366It will never bother me.
>>10572272What is the source on this? reverse image search isn't pulling anything up
What's the best horse cock head shapeDoes it actually feel better then regular cock
>>10593407The fuck she got 3 hands
>>10593429>what are motion lines
>>10572266Vauch is that you?
>>10592954For me it's picrel, with those four distinct mounds/bumps on top of the flare. It almost looks like a pocket pussy (and I'd almost like to try using it as one).
>>10593450What are you smoking, there's an extra hand on left of cockNot talking about the lines by the arm
>>10594002Anon didnt articulate what they meant very well.The hands on the left are representative of the highest and lowest points of the arms movement.You should see this often in BJ scenes, where they draw the face twice, one pulled back and one closer to the guys pelvis.Its just an arc motion, and the extreme ends are drawn, usually with on being ghostish/transparent, or in the case of the hand, part of the connection parts not drawn (no arm drawn)the motion lines are there to help convey to you that this is what is happening.
>>10594034Then why only one armKinda makes no sense
>>10594152Because the other arm isn't jerking, just holding.
>>10594300This is AI innit?
>>10595280aye
>>10579608The issue is that there is a lot of diverse AI art that is interesting but the only ones that are shared outside AI circles are the ones made with NovelAI so they all have the same boring generic style
Surprised y'all don't have the classic horesecock in here yet.
>>10572272She looks like Abigail Shapiro
>>10596303>hypothetically speaking, lets say my sisters uses her massive khazar milkers to pazuri her own horsecock
>>10596230Praise be to milf horsecock futa loli rapists
>>10598499Horsecock draenei is a pretty tame hole to fall into.
>>10599899Fair point. At least it doesn't get you on some sort of a watch list.
>>10600395Not so much a fan of inverted nipples, but I like what's going on in this pic.
>>10572275Source on this? Saucenao and the like turned up nothing, sadly.
>>10600621I'd guess it's AI art.
>>10600636This. It's the fingers that gave it away, once again, kek.
>>10600664Ah, well shit. :(
>>10600664They are a give away, but they don't trigger me the way they do some antis
Just started working with this new model, getting success but have to suppress furry shit from cropping up hard.
>>10601937what are you doing that's forcing furry shit
>>10601940A mix of Fluffyrock 60% and Crosskemono 40%. Ends up making great futa, and actually does horsecock. But then you get horsefaces and fur that you need to filter out with aggressive prompts.
This thread was ruined from the first by starting with AI shit.
>>10601940I see this was already answered, but I'll say anyway: Maybe asking for cocks that looks like those of *horses*?
What do you like about horsecock?
>>10602940>sheath>perennial ring>flared head
>>10602940
>>10602107I gotta agree, it's just not the same. I say this despite posting one. >>10601937It's just nice that we can do some mediocre smut that can be tailor-made to our tastes.
>>10583305
>>10602940https://youtu.be/4WwJ6OVSwkM
There is nothing wrong with AI art and all the whinging about it just smacks of luddites being afraid.
>>10572266Good thread.Bad first image.Fuck off with the generic, style-less looking AI garbage.It's never interesting to look at.
yes, fuck me
>>10605148I'm sure luddites would also say it looks like shit, no?
>>10605148It's literally all artists pissing themselves that they can't sell YCHs for hundreds of dollars anymore. The commission artist will be forced to get a real job.
What is your favorite reason why the phallus is equine?Mine is accidental transplant.>Girl goes under for minor cosmetic surgery.>Wakes up with a massive horse dong attached.>Oopsy! The procedures got mixed up.>And now she has to deal with all the stallion hormones on top of an non-hidable pillar of flesh.All the benefits of "Poof! You're a horsegirl now", without having to deal with magic.
>>10605394I like the idea of them being born with it. Of course, to explain this I imagine a near future where on demand gene modification is a thing, and a sizeable portion of the population went for it before the proper studies of those genes being transmissable to offspring could be done. Now the next generation has to deal with the consequences, sexy consequences.Also it can't just be removed, because it's easier to add to your genetic makeup than it is to take away from it.
>>10605367Its also the fact that AI art samples from the internet. ItS basically plaigerism.
>>10605514So do people. Only difference is that people draw from everything they see and recombine it subconsciously. Easy solution, flood AI sampling with real photos on the order of 99% of what it generates from.
>>10605367>The commission artist will be forced to get a real job.creating art is a real jobhave some respect for the people making the shit you fap to every dayI'm sure we'd all rather do shit that we enjoy or makes us happy for a living instread of working some shithole job like most people, but you shouldn't use your jealousy as an excuse to invalidate an entire industryas well, not every artist is charging insane prices for their art, fairly often its for far less than their time is even worth which is kind of sad>>10605517there's a difference between taking influence from something and direct copying
>>10606126>there's a difference between taking influence from something and direct copyingFalse. You're just rehashing claims from America's awful "art investment" and "publishing" industries, both of which have no artistic value.If I "copy" art, and share it with my friends, the inspiration, love, hate, whatever they feel are just as legitimate as if they saw the original workIndeed it's better this way because now I have replicated the thing I love, creating more awareness of that thing, more likelyhood of somebody else discovering and loving it too, etc. The only people who disagree with this entirely are those who have no interest in art as a humanist endeavor and just as a product, to make them money or to assuage their wounded egos.
>>10605367Nah, people will still pay money for good artists. It'll just force the shit-tier and middle of the road artists to either get better or get fucked. The only people this will negatively effect, talking about art on this scale, are the weirdos who will take any dogshit fetish and the people who will pay giant sums for their dogshit fetishes not caring how crap the art is.
>>10605394transformation
>>10605394>Mine is accidental transplant.Bet you $10 that you ended up with that fetish because of >>10596230
>>10582454sauce?
>>10582454Also asking for salsa
>>10607299>>10607471Are you people allergic to reading filenames?>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7637301
>>10607299>>10607471It's in the name of the file...Just how rotten your brains? Take a brake from masturbation.
>>10594300ai is scary
>>10600395>>10601732Gorgeous goddesses
https://e-hentai.org/g/2523705/9ebe265659/ai drawn horse girls
To we have the technology for making horsecock's on humans?
>>10607967Not yet, no.
>>10575871
>>10608879
>>10608565Will he ever make something like thia again?
>>10608453>>10608810two of my favourite artists. Love their style
>>10605394Experimental medicine/injection. The doctor runs a shady practice and the girl needs the cash or is doing it on a dare, and when she wakes at home the next day to see the results, she tries to go back to where the doctor was only to find the spot abandoned. Her friends have a newfound interest in her though.
>>10592954I like the heart shaped head. It's cute.
I just tried to post a picture and got this message:>Error: This image cannot be uploaded because it is the subject of a copyright infringement claim. Please refrain from posting it.So that's neat. Copyrighted Horse Cock.
>>10610581Upload it on catbox and post link here.I'm curious now, what kind of image is that.
>>10610671It was one of these two; I don't remember which.I'm 100% certain they're edits because it is obvious that they are.https://files.catbox.moe/p6q0h2.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/swega1.jpg
>>10605394Nobody knows where the first horsecock came from. All that is certain is that once you take enough of that hot musky horsecum, you end up growing one of your own.
>>10614571And really, who could resist? It feels so damn good. All that needy equine flesh begging for attention. Every inch of length sending those impulses to shoot your infectious load in the next person.
>>10612745that's a huge horse and with an even huger cock.
>>10614571This looks so delicious.
>>10614571Makes me imagine a situation where three arrogant girls with horsecocks find a girl without one to use and pump her full of their cum, and the large loads just causes her to grow a horsecock much bigger than any of theirs
>>10614670Arrogant or not, I'm pretty sure they would gladly welcome their new playmate.
>>10614571Does this work on dudes too? And do you have to take it straight or can you like, cook it into food or inject it? Asking for a friend.
>>10609900Mine would be a take on this one. Supersoldier genemod project using a virus as the delivery method for the genemods. Project goal was to produce humans with the strenbgth, speed and stamina of a horse. The project succeeded, but with some unintended side effects. Subjects grow a second set of horse like ears on top of the skull, the tailbone lengthens and sprouts horse like hair, and both sexes experience height gains of a foot or more. Male subjects develop horse like genitals complete with a sheath, and the penis and testicles increase until a horse like size is achieved. Female subjects, likewise, see their vaginas change to become externall and internally identical to that of a mare(xrays on female subjects have shown minor internal organ rearrangement to account for the vastly increased vaginal depth),breast size is also increased by several times. A small subset of female subjects after completing their primary transformation, underwent a secondary change, wherein, the clitoris began expanding, in length and girth, and changed appearance until it was outwardly and inwardly identical to the male subjects sexual organ, with the clitoral hood serving as the sheath. Xrays of the subjects show the generation of two new internal organs that are analogous to male testes. Research is currently being conducted to understand why the virus does not trigger this secondary change in all female subjects, or trigger a similar transformation in male subjects.
/r/ more uma
>>10616022I don't see why only girls should be the only ones to get gifted girthy horse wangs. And mixing it up into food and drink sounds like an amazing time for equine outbreaks.
>>10616442Do the girls also get mare pussies?
>>10617125I would assume that would need to be the case in order to be fully compatible to mate with. It's no fun if you are bottoming out after only putting the first 1/3 of your superior cock in.
>>10610581>Copyrighted horsecockWell, it's a valuable commodity.
>>10600621for what it's worth, the style (especially the sort of cel shading and the mouth style) are definitely ripped from modeseven
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52i14wYBef8
>>10616442>>10617125Do the dudes get horse pussies as well?
>>10620093I fucking wish omgcould you imagine some jacked dude with a horsecunt or a femboy
>>10608879>>10608880I love herm trainsdoubly so with equine equipment
>>10605148Because it seems like you are either unable to comprehend the issues, or just don't care, let me explain.The two main issues with AI art is:>How the data to make the models are sourced.>And the threat it stands to artists who make a living by making art.All the models so far that the AI uses to interpenetrate prompts are based upon gallons of stolen art that consent was never requested for. The artists who essentially trained the AI with their hard work had nothing to say about whether or not their art was allowed to be used. These artists were not provided compensation of any form, which makes this even worse.Secondly is that the people that make a living off art are actively being threatened by these generators. If we lived in a society where one did not have to make money to survive, this would not be an issue. But we do not, and artists who were stolen from are now looking at the possibility of their art used to create a model that could put them out of business. If just one of these issues was dealt with, for all AI art. Most people would see it for a great tool, but currently that is not the case. As well there is this one point I would like to make. Art, and making things is a very human act. One could even argue its one of the most human acts. Do you want to live in a world where all your content is fed to you via these generators. Where the possibility to even make a living off of any creative output is stymied by the slow replacement of every creative role by AIs? As well its happened to music, writing, and even now art, whats to say what else could be replaced by an AI? Because I assure you, while you might think your profession is safe, give AI enough time and you will see your profession threatened if not replaced to line the pockets of CEOs.
>>10623851finally some based shit in this thread , good on you anonto add my own thoughts here I feel like all this ai stuff is just nonsense for people who have no respect for art. they don't wanna take the time to develop art skills or respect artists and pay them fairly for their work, so they resort to a shitty automated soloution that they've convinced themsevles will be better somehow, they're just sad and jealous
>>10623851not how theft works or has ever worked moralizing about your job not getting enough respect assumes your contributing to the common good, drug dealers can't bitch about how much more hustle chatgpt has than them artist whining about no longer getting hired to do ads for evil corp are in the same boat
>>10623851>How the data to make the models are sourcedSo, a nothing burguer
>>10624084Well, copyright laws could give the legal precedent needed to kill image generation trained on data sets acquired without consent. We're essentially waiting for someone to lawyer up or elaborate on the argument well enough to bring it up in court.>Did you or did you not use the copyrighted material without permission for your product (AI image generation for-profit).>Have you or have you not compensated the copyright owner for the use of their copyrighted material.If either of these questions come up in court, it will be difficult to convince anyone that one hasn't violated copyright laws.
>>10624244how do you prove it though?
>>10624244If you are against image generation you essentially against music
>>10624257Mostly an issue where those doing training for the AI are required to disclose the data set.>What's stopping them from lying?Admittedly, I'm not sure how they go about verifying that information. Maybe there's a record, maybe there isn't. Even then, the risk of a whistle blower may be sufficient to head off lying.>>10624434Sampling in music still follows copyright laws. And I think AI generation is fantastic, but my personal opinion doesn't factor into ethical or legal questions. But whether it's ethical to train an AI on data obtained without consent is secondary to the legal aspect.
>>10624484I'm not talking about sampling, you want ban chords and notes in image image form.
>>10619544songs about /d/ type fetishes need to be more common desu why is it always furries that make them?
>>10624615they're creative and get paid for it.
>>10624046>not how theft works or has ever workedYes, this is not theft, the concept of it is just being used to provide an easier way to understand the issue. This is better described as digital piracy. The digital item being taken is a copy of the item and not the item itself, however what we are talking about is taking it a step further. Copying these items to then feed to an AI model who can then ape the styles of the items it was fed. Then distributing this model to others, either for financial gain or the gain of social interest. The people that do this are much less a pickpocket and more so a guy who sells ripped copies of NIN on the streets. Albeit the copies of NIN being distributed are more the models that can be used to recreate “Something I Can Never Have” rather than just being a carbon copy of it.As well it is funny that you do mention both artists and drug dealers in the same breath as being unable to have their possible loss being unable to moralize due to how they are both apparently unable to contribute to the common good. But just as I could just point out that both, even in this dim light you paint them do more to better society than you ever would, I'd rather just point out that that this is just a terrible comparison and you would do better to bring something more substantial to the table. Artists aren't whining here about being unable to make more ads for Blackrock as they might consider an AI model, they are concerned about every possible avenue for artistic compensation being wiped out if something isn't done about their work being used to fuel a machine that provides them no credit, compensation, or consent to use the work that they produce being fed into it. This is not a hard concept, and if you need me to elaborate on how to understand it, the words empathy, sympathy, and/or compassion come to mind.
>thread about horse dicks>AI and copyright discussionSTOP IT, POST HORSE DICKS OR FUCK OFF!
>>10625520Anti-AI art faggots will do anything to scream about how its the downfall of life as we know it.
>>10626230I just don't like ai art because even "good" ones have some obvious flaws which I can't ignore.
>>10626284I'm not calling you a liar, but even seen so much bad human art and people just shrug it off. Now, suddenly, there's all this noise about hands when human artists fuck up hands all the time. It just comes across as weird cope. People like what they like, whatever, but I just don't see people sperging out about human created art that has flaws to the same degree that they do AI art.
>>10626290human flaws at least make art feel natural and human, and can be easily corrected without needing to generate a whole new image, ai art just feels sterile and fake
>>10626303Flaws are flaws; shit anatomy is shit anatomy. Your post smacks of cope.
>>10626312>nuh uhwhy are you so retarded
>>10626290Well, you see. Human art can be bad and good, but it "consistent". In good art, even if there some flaws, they are usually not critical and can be ignored. But you won't all of sudden see screwed hands or horribly crooked bodyparts.In bad art it would be wrong proportions, inconsistent sizes and etc. But it's just overall bad, nothing to add, nothing that really stands out.On the other hand ai art looks "good" at first glance but it always screw up some parts really weirdly. And those flawed parts really stand out.
>>10626358>But you won't all of sudden see screwed hands or horribly crooked bodyparts.There are whole threads that routinely run on /co/ dedicated to examples of this.>inb4 muh westerngoalposts
>>10626423>>10626423>There are whole threads that routinely run on /co/ dedicated to examples of this.What threads? About learning how to draw or what?Also some western pictures are drawn that way intentionally as it seems. So yeah, "muh western"
>>106263583. Western drawn/styled ("toon") pictures and fan drawn ("fanart") images are not allowed.
>>10626937If you consider this "western", then why are you writing only to me?Half of the thread consists of kinda "western" images.
>>10572266>>10572273>>10572275The more I look at these, the more I see wrong with them
Does anyone have recommendations on horsecock models and prompts? Can't seem to find any good resources online
>>10617606>>10620093Men and women all having horse cocks and horse pussies would be perfection.
>>10626284>because even "good" ones have some obvious flaws which I can't ignore.then simply don't look at it and don't post your generic opinion, you're less mad & stressed, the thread is better, it's a win-win.
>>10574259>>10577462what makes horse cock heads so appealing and sexy? i want to make out with one so badly it is unreal.
>>10629267Suppose that >>10616045 occurred, would you volunteer for the clinical trial, or hope that the virus is transmissible(sexually or otherwise)?
>>10594172dear christ sauce
>>10623851so you admit that the problem is capitalism and not AI?
>>10629410How about you simply don't post ai shit? There is dedicated threads for it. That way this>you're less mad & stressed, the thread is better, it's a win-winwould also be achieved.
>>10633504No. Just stop being assmad about AI art.
>>10623851>All the models so far that the AI uses to interpenetrate prompts are based upon gallons of stolen art that consent was never requested for.This is how all artists, bar the rarest of the rare, learn their trade. They look at images, they learn how anatomy works, how joints function, the placement and scaling of body parts, various facial expressions, etc. In this case a highly complex mathematical formula is applied to a set of images, and the patterns are learned as a result. The original images are not stored in the model, and retrieval is impossible. Strong resemblance can occur especially with models with a small dataset or when prompts are heavily restricted. This isn't unique to AI however, tracing is rampant in art, or better yet the usage of modeling photographs for a reference pose or detail. The only reason you say it infringes on those artists is that now it can be done procedurally by a computer, rather than an artist picking and choosing by themselves and using their memory. The model IS memory.>These artists were not provided compensation of any formThey were when the image was originally made and posted, at least I hope so. You can't monetize a posted image. Even that retarded NFT craze ran into that fact. It must be transmitted to be displayed, once displayed it can be viewed, if it can be viewed it can be downloaded. The full file exists on your system the moment you look at it in a browser. Downloading is just a formality to slap it in a specific spot. Go check your temp folder. You might be able to monetize the distribution of the image, paywalls and such, but most artists don't even bother with that.
>>10623851>Secondly is that the people that make a living off art are actively being threatened by these generators.Welcome to the largest trend of the last 200 years. Automation of Labor. Anyone who thought physical robots would replace service industry and we'd all be artists in a post-scarcity utopia is retarded. The signs have been there for decades. To replace complex tasks you need computer vision, otherwise they cannot perform those tasks. All those robot arms and such do simple procedures again and again in the same spot. As soon as you get computer vision you can produce impressions, to generate hypothetical situations. You literally just run the algorithm backwards, task to vision instead of vision to task. Add in a natural language model and you get stable diffusion. People who thought otherwise take the gift of how automated our senses are for granted.>making things is a very human actThe majority of goods are made without human hands touching them. You're about 30 years too late there. You talk of labor and fair compensation, then act as if art is unique. It is not. Creativity and mastery is required in most forms of labor beyond the most menial. They will all be threatened by automation.>your profession threatened if not replaced to line the pockets of CEOsIt's laughable you mention a welfare society and think an oligarchy or hierarchy of power would not exist. Even the communists don't pretend otherwise.>>10624244AI art is the epitome of fair use. It is inherently transformation of the original works in question. The original dataset cannot be recovered from the models. You'd be laughed out of court. Viewing copyrighted materials and teaching based off them is directly in the purview of fair use. Nothing anywhere says that who you teach must be human.
>>10624484>Admittedly, I'm not sure how they go about verifying that information. Maybe there's a record, maybe there isn't.Nope. The metadata is only about tagging. The actual images get boiled down to a bunch of procedural weights tied to those natural language tags. Names of them aren't even included. You open a model up and you see a shitload of decimal numbers. You don't see images.>Even then, the risk of a whistle blower may be sufficient to head off lying.Cats out of the bag. Models are only a few gigs and can be run and trained on any decent consumer GPU. Most people don't even use baseline stable diffusion model anymore. Dozens of people have used the training code themselves to create unique models. Its already fully decentralized.>>10626303Thats actually entirely wrong, inpainting is normal now, lets you specify which areas to regenerate, with completely new tags and models. ie if the hands are fucked up you can mask those out and tell it to try again with a new set of tags specifically biased for hand quality. You can even make a sketch and it'll work off that. Hell a common practice is to pose a 3D model of a person and feed it in to let it work off that pose. Anything you see with fucked up hands and anatomy is someone being lazy and just feeding the output out without fixing it. There are submodels, LoRAs, to fix those. Specifically built to be used during the inpainting stage. There are even whole image transforms to get a specific style down exactly, known as VAEs. Getting good work out of the AI is an 80/20 problem. 80% of the time is fine tuning things to unfuck 20% of problems.>>10626461Nah artists in animation take tons of shortcuts. A lot of anime is infamous for this. You can get some really fuckin jank results from professional studios because they're trying to be quick rather than good.
>>10634363Wrong thread?
>>10626979its the fingers.AI doesnt know how to fingers. its super creepy.I never want to be operated on my hands by a robot
>>10633804Did anyone ever try integrating 3d human anatomy models or virtual IDEs into AIs for them to extrapolate with?
>>10633818>Nah artists in animation take tons of shortcuts>artists in animationwe talk about single drawings, not animation
>>10623851you're a commonfolk who would complain that the photograph was an issue for painters.if we did the exact same thing for physical labor you wouldn't even flinch.
Are there any tutorials on how to draw it?
>>10636785Learn how to draw basic shapes. With that you will be able to draw anything.
>>10632196>so you admit that the problem is capitalism and not AI?Yes, capitalism is the main issue, the problem is its probably not going anywhere anytime soon.>>10633804>AI art is pretty much the same as people learning from other's art.The key difference here is people have been learning from other's art for centuries, as such humans doing this is expected and common. As well most artists are not aiming to perfectly copy another's style or all styles. And those that do aim to try and perfectly copy other's art/style typically do so to produce forgery and fakes. (To enunciate here, most people do not like artistic forgers even if they are human) >They were provided compensation when posted, and monetizing images is near impossible.If it helps, imagine an artist finding out someone had stolen their publicly posted art and was selling stickers of it without their permission or providing them anything for it. This is something that most artists are not happy with, but if the sticker maker got permission or provided compensation of some type most artists would be fine with it. As well the artist in question has the legal right to use their copyright on their work to shut down the sticker maker. While it is just an idea, Zee bashew talks about a union of artists working to produce an AI model of their own, and simply asking people to pay to purchase it, and dividing the proceeds among the artists that helped create it. This is a possible avenue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d15C_UgVS-c>>10633812>Welcome to Automation of labor, this is an expected outcome and people that didn't expect it are unable to expect the future.Ok? Sure? Go off king?>Nearly nothing is made by hand nowadays.Yes nearly every field requires mastery and creativity. The unique thing about art is that it is the thing most people turn to when they don't have to work for a living. It is the oldest thing that humans enjoy to do the most often, and spend time getting good at.
>>10637868>>10633812>It's laughable you mention a welfare society and think an oligarchy or hierarchy of power would not exist. Even the communists don't pretend otherwise.You can understand that was to provide a scenario where AI art was not an issue? Right? The example is not connected to my explanation of what will happen in our current society via CEOs abusing the AI's features to remove their human workers. And honestly even if we had this theoretical welfare society, I don't give a shit about a social hierarchy existing within it and using AI so long as people are able to be fed.>AI art is fair use.So being able to recreate NIN “Something I Can Never Have” via an musical AI generator, is something that would not produce NIN bringing a copyright suite to the courts and winning right? If a generator can produce a near replica of someone's elses work, it has, by the use of its exported information, the capabilities of providing a user with a copywritten version of something that they could possibly not own. If copyright will be brought to court, about AI models/generators, the evidence will be in the works it can produce, not the ones it ate.>>10635356>you're a commonfolk who would complain that the photograph was an issue for painters.Uh huh. That's exactly what I would say, because the camera requires data from painters to work, which it did not request or provide compensation for. >if we did the exact same thing for physical labor you wouldn't even flinch.Yeah no, I would complain about both, and hope that both would be provided the same compensation.
AI art is shit
>>10623851You've had a good run but you're going to have to enslave yourself to a corporation and fight the urge to kill yourself like the rest of us.
>>10574236God damn, please more.
>>10608565thank gosh this got posted, thank you
>>10636785Do what this anon said >>10637037Basic shapes is the prerequisite for learning constructionOnce you learn construction, look at reference (i.e. pics of real horses) and figure out to construct them, even tracing examples to study the proportions.Protip: knowing how to learn is more important than watching a million tutorials
>>10579619it's really easy to express whetever you want, if you use combine it with photoshop thobut i agree, too much generic spam
>>10625474Based
>>10612745Sauce?
idk if this counts as non furry but fuck it
>>10580102you sketch something then give it to the AI, if you are not a retarded spammer.you can get whatever the pose, composition and color, if you start firstppl are butthurt with AI coz haters gonna hate
>>10637995>Wayyy ahead of you, I work a white collar job at a military contractor and have been doing so ever since I finished collage.
>>10619725More of this?
>>10644481>>10643195>>10642502Retard.
>>10580715Still in progress, last I checked, but slow going.
>>10644555(You)AI art is shit
>>10645413she can kill with a kick but can't open a jar
>>10572547>The fucking mole on the ball sackHnnngh
>>10645413Sauce
>>10645847check file's name
>>10645861Damn itThanks
