I Was Turned Into a Learning Tool for Pregnancy and Childbirth edition.Previous thread: >>10753309Rules: This is a fetish thread on a hentai board, not a thread for discussion of real-world social or political issues that belong on the >>>/lgbt/ containment board. Report all such posts as off-topic/trolling and then ignore.
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Have to give this one a miss, the premise is fucking retarded>>10762922Gender-Blending stuff (futa/cuntboy) seems to be heavily female-consumed, perhaps it has something to do with that?
>>10764002That's a pretty fucked up backstory. She's an undead gangrape revenant who creates more gangrape victims.
Any cool 4-6 page short series to translate?
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>>10764038I think it’s at least really fascinating put that wayIf she wanted to serve some functional karmatic role in the equation of processing experiences and perspective reversals, the subject would have to be the only one learning and shaping as result of the whole thing. Some dream world/conscious reality layering rules or something.If all involved are equally aware, receptive, self determining souls, then yeah she’s just… making 20 gang rapists just to reform the worst of the bunch? Doesn’t seem functional really.But it’s hentai story rules so you know, everyone has low rolls where it matters to make the fuck happen
seriously, why isn't there more willing tg
>TSF victim is the one pushing for sex whilst the male friend is the one against it/hesitantDon't know why but this specific concept always gets me
>>10764121Delta-TSF's definitely got a lot of it, but yeah I agree most of the tg are forced.
>>10764121One is a fetish and the other is wish fulfillment/tranny self-insert. This is a fetish board.
>>10764121probably because the humiliation/degradation/domination loss/etc etc is part of the fetish, or the willing bit is moreso tranny stuff (or they weasel it in where at first it's "oh I don't want this!" but then "secretly" they wanted it the whole time or some dumb shit).
>>10764140oh no it's the fetish police everyone run
>>10764121Define "willing," as the vast majority of men would not take the opportunity to turn into a woman, nor have they thought about life as a woman any more than a few times in their life as a stray thought.Now, if you mean "willing" as some guy was in control of their transformation, but didn't realize it because they thought it was for a video game or because of a mental transformation (that may or may not wear off), that's a bit niche, but it does exist and is great almost every time.
>>10764121I like it best when they come around to it in the end regardless of if they started annoyed or whatever, no identity death but more of a "yeah okay the sex was great, let's do that again sometime" or something like that. No secretly wanting to be a girl all along, just a general them rolling with the situation since it's happened anyway.
i have this story that seems desapead from the internet, "A Summer Away" by tgStoryWannabe,if you look it up on google the only thing that appears is a year old 4chan thread asking for it.I wanted to post/archive it somewhere where other people could see it. Does anyone here have expirence posting on fictionmania?
>>10764220>ESLAs far as I know, you can't archive in fictionmania unless you're the author or you're given permission by the author. Check the warning here: https://www.fictionmania.tv/author/contribute.htmlAn alternative is Google Docs, but I'd rather put the story in a pastebin.
>>10764126Ugh, that's the worst. You have a few wild nights together and then all of a sudden he's hitting you with the "I'm too tired".
>>10764121Same reason there's not more consensual feminization about celebrating the femininity instead of denigrating the emasculation- it's niche. To bounce back on the ALLMIND discussion of last thread, there's not a lot of guided, desired, or monitored transformations. A big appeal of TSF for me is dealing with the consequences in good or bad of gradual physiognomy changes, and these seem to pair very well.So do you like "guided" or "programmed/programmable" transformations, and how much input in it would you like to have if you were to pick something like that?
>>10764331Personally, I can like both subliminal/subconscious/oblivious manipulation and overt guidance, chosen by the person or not. In the first one, it's an outsider intelligence imposing its will, and either managing through subterfuge and trickery to prevent alarm in the subject, or at least presenting them in such a manner acceptance is the "only" way presented going forward. For the former, it could be by taking advantage of confusion to start gaslighting the victim and into internalizing the changes as normal. In the latter, it can be "Oh, it's unfortunate, but because of [Virus/Mutagen/Other uncontrollable events], your body will start undergoing changes- but we will do our best to accomodate those! In the second one, you could have a "copilot" intelligence monitoring the process that interacts with the user during the process (and possibly thereafter), whether proactive or reactive, and friendly or not. So, it can be like ALLMIND- independent and putting things in motion without warning. Or, it could be a helper AI packaged with a feminization biochip. >Oh, you like big things? Well, if you play along, I can speed along a few things just for you! Did you try those panties yet? Or, it can be something neutral- maybe such a biochip used for recovery, and whose feminization aspects then unroll because they could not be jammed. >I notice your recovery is complete. Starting tomorrow, I will begin the preliminary endocrine re-assignment. Please make sure to ingest plenty of fluids.Complimentary Dima pictures.
>>10764331This made my mind wander to some kind of rehab program for violent/repeat criminals. They agree to be genderbent to permanently defang them, then they're released with a collar or ankle bracelet loaded with drugs and nanomachines capable of causing further changes. Perform a violent act? They're made smaller, weaker, and given hormonal adjustments to make them less confident and aggressive. Get into a shouting match? Their voices are made higher and quieter and they're hit with a tranquilizer. Even think about stealing? They're made curvier and paranoid. A few hits of dopamine for being productive members of society would also go a long way. The better behaved subjects would just be androgenous women, but the worst would become caricatures of women completely unable to do what they got jailed for.It works no matter how it's guided, too. They could just do the thing, feel a prick, and know that in a few hours life is going to be a bit more complicated or have an imbedded AI of any intelligence chiding them. I think it's juicier if there's a human parole officer they could plead with though. This would also pair well with my TF fetish even if used on women.Does anyone have that Greentea Neko picture with a similar premise?
>>10764397Being a big softie, my first thought is applying it the other way. More of a CYOA feature, where certain opting-in to certain things offered (probably by a partner company or the same company) makes you eligible for "additional" or "enhanced" features. Pic related always come to mind for this kind of thing: I just love the idea of meeting an old friend who went WAY into feminization and who casually offers to share her/his "booster pills" that would signal the user for all kinds of changes.>Oh, I was tired of needing to tick the parameters, so I just got them to make me a pill for it. It's -So- much simpler, you should totally try it.You can even still keep a sinister/controlling undertone by adding "hidden" or "side-effects" like making users more suggestible, less confrontational if you want... or even advertise it as a feature for certain programs! >Tired of arguing on the internet? Why not opt into our easy-life program! Guaranteed to make all of those pesky anger issues vanish! And in the process, you become MUCH more suggestible, submissive, and pliant. And of course, whether you can opt-out or not is up in the air depending on how predatory your setting is.
>>10764409>Being a big softieI'm actually mostly with you there, but when it comes to forced changes I tend to want to have a little fun so I choose groups that "deserve it" when I dick around. The rest of your post sounds like a nice setup for a two hit combo of something like an anti-anxiety/stress relief pill followed by a bunch of "special offers" too good to pass up. Imagine a guy feeling stressed at work or about to go on a flight he knows will freak him out, so he finds some shady Indian pills advertised to do the trick. They work, and he's completely carefree. Maybe too carefree, because when he starts getting emails from the same company offering him a sexy chest, toned stomach and perfect butt he buys the products, takes the pills, rubs on the creams, and deals with the side effects without thinking much about them. It's not like Galcorp's stuff doesn't work, after all. Before he knows it he's molded himself into the girl of his dreams, but he's chill about it because the stress/anxiety pills are still doing as they do. At that point he wouldn't need most of the pharmaceuticals being advertised, so then the clothing and makeup emails begin...
>>10764230>Pastebin’s SMART filters have detected potentially offensive or questionable content in your Paste.>The content you are trying to publish has been deemed potentially offensive or questionable by our filters, because of this you’re receiving this warning.>This Paste can only be published with the visibility set to "Private".what now?
>>10764440Ooh, that sounds really nice. Could start with package deals to get a foot in the door, eg:>We're clearing last year stock, so all our new customers get a 3 months supply of exfoliating lotion as an extra this week!And similarly "Opt in for extras" ways to let people "try out" or "volunteer">We're trying to iron out the kinks on our new sweet dreams media suite. We've tailored a broad variety of programs with our expertise to make you help you relax and unwind before bedtime, no matter the content. Still, these are pretty subjective, so the more feedback, the better- so we're giving out extras to anyone chipping in to help us with this. The more exposure, the better! And the more people do these, the more normalized it becomes for them to accept these offers, on top of whatever "side-effects" participation may involve.I'm curious now, how deeply do you like these kind of changes to go? Because secondary characteristics are one thing, but full blown sex changes or genetic makeovers would probably be a bit deeper in. Mind you in lewder scenarios, I wouldn't hesitate trying to "corrupt" their masturbation habits too. I always find it funny when an "impartial" (Impartiality definition subject to terms and conditions*) AI points out "embarrassing" or "subconscious" ideas to seed them. >Dear customer, we've noticed your recent personal relaxation materials have included certain materials. Would you like a free trial of our own collection pertaining to these tags? Or, alternatively, >Customer opens package to find company "Accidentally" sent a full set of introduction to anal toys with the latest package. >Due to the sensitive nature of the extraneous items, we do not plan to ask you to ship them back. Please enjoy them to your heart contents! And of course, the possibility of socializing with other customers, either also along the same track (and getting dragged into more tryouts), or meeting for double dates or mixers with those new tastes.
>>10764450>"Favorite porn genre is sexual trai..."Trailblazing? Traitors? Traits? Training?
>>10764331I'll out myself as a fan of changes heralded by an outside intelligence or rider. I'm just really not a long fetish story guy, so gradual feminization over so many pages with that being the entire story makes my eyes glaze over. I prefer it as a secondary element to a different story.The ALLMIND is a topical example of it. The primary story is likely still about mechs, being a pilot, but now you've injected the TSF element with a smug AI girl and how she has control over your body, but it's a relationship with give and take that you can see developing over time.Other scenarios I've liked is the protagonist joined with some kind of symbiote that can force transformations. There was a CYOA on /trash/ a while back called Waifutrix that had an option for a similar premise that was really good. Magical girls, especially ones where the henshin belt is self-aware or there's a mentor character to take the place of the guide...
Is this the place to ask for race change tg?
>>10764450>I'm curious now, how deeply do you like these kind of changes to go? All the way? This is the TSF thread, if you want something less than that the feminization and futa threads are two doors down. >Genetic makeovers would probably be a bit deeper in. The difference is academic for most scenarios unless genetic modification specifically is your kink. >I wouldn't hesitate trying to "corrupt" their masturbation habits too. Sounds like a must for any scenario that continues long enough to me. >AI points out "embarrassing" or "subconscious" ideas to seed them. Yeah, that'd be great in this scenario. They could also just take a survey though; those anxiety pills would have customers too high to worry about the the embarrassment of answering honestly and the company would provide good incentive to complete them. But why stop at masturbation, anyway? Her HAL/Alexa lovechild could encourage her to step up to actual dick with some nudging. After a few weeks working out on the Galcorp Hip Strengthener (it's a realistic dildo mounted on a hunk of silicon shaped roughly like a man's lower body) guided by their Glute Blaster DVD (It's a dildo hero video) she'd even be able to ride like a pornstar her first time.
>>10764462>Is this the place to ask for race change tg?Since western art is haram on /d/ you're not going to get anything (unless you count human to elf or catgirl or something like that as a race change), as Japanese artists don't do race change TG. You'll get a lot more stuff by starting a thread on this topic over on >>>/aco/.
>>10764230maybe ControlC Spectre RentryZeroBinPastes
>>10764477Thanks, but I would count elf change too in some cases since my favorite part is the added culture shock (plus the aesthetic change of course) but I prefer it with real cultures I guess.
>>10764459You don't need to keep away from more direct elements necessarily, only to link multiple scenes with the same character and enough hints and allusions to convey the on-going feminization. Typically showing the first hints, then the first change/effect besides something like an existing activity, and further them as you present them more down the line. >>10764470So? That doesn't mean it'll all go through in the same strides. What I meant is, are such changes just further along the same program's escalation? Do they imply getting into a new program, possibly with extra bells and whistles that are skimmed over? Are they presented as "an unfortunate/unforeseen side effect", but thankfully the victim don't actually mind them, so now the company is presenting all kinds of news gifts as compensation? I tend to be fan of elaborate theme parks with the outwards goal of being enjoyable experience whose true purpose is to aid or hurry along participants down a slippery slope, so I like the idea of "Oh, terribly sorry. Please, let us compensate you with a paid vacation, no questions asked, to this idyllic spa/vacation locale with full amenities we run", except all the staff and people and amenities there will acclimate them to being a Good Girl, with subliminals everywhere, hypnotic suggestion all over the wordings, and tasty treats and convenient toys to stretch and really scratch those itches.Also, you're not the IP I was talking to.
Wasn't there a pilot/AI story based on the premise women and small builds support G-forces better, and then taking advantage of test rigs, combat-drug ports and neuro-feedback interfaces to just run rampant over the meatbag?
>>10764487>>10764220Thank you.rentryDOTco/7yvst
>>10764220does this picture have a translation?
>>10764491>What I meant is, are such changes just further along the same program's escalation? That's what I was trying to set up: a that's-bullshit-but-I-believe-it scenario of increasingly ridiculous and sexual sales pitches made plausible with drugs. >Do they imply getting into a new program, possibly with extra bells and whistles that are skimmed over?I just had a vertical ad partnerships in mind, but it could be different companies under the same corporation. Basically, the customer would be genderbent and then get hawked products from various companies as their feminization progressed. Evil, but not truly nefarious. >Are they presented as "an unfortunate/unforeseen side effect", but thankfully the victim don't actually mind them, so now the company is presenting all kinds of news gifts as compensation? I imagined a staged approach. The stress/anxiety pulls do what they say on the tin and what you'd expect, but really well. So well that the customer doesn't stress about the awkward wording or double speak on the subsequent products appealing products. Look at what I laid out in >>10764440>sexy chestA sexy pair of tits>toned stomachComplete with vagina bones>perfect buttThe perfect spankable bubble butt. And it'd be a shame if a pair of balls ruined the view... The customer actually got exactly what was advertised. A consumer might consider being turned into a girl to be a side effect (that they can't seem to be upset by) but Galcorp just delivered on their promises then guided Ms. Customer into buying more stuff. Think capitalistic genie. >I tend to be fan of elaborate theme parks... to aid or hurry along participants down a slippery slopeThat's fun and something could easily be spun that way, but I'm also a fan of giving people enough rope to hang themselves, so that's what I was envisioning. The end game would be a slippery slope though. >Also, you're not the IP I was talking to.Same guy though. I have a VPN and end up swapping IPs.
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>>10764561Oh, okay. I always get confused wondering if I'm talking to two different anons. If you're looking for "setting yourself up unknowingly", then you can also have fun with the natural rewards/incentives circuits we have. For example, a fidelity system that incentives trying out more and more items from the catalog to keep the freebies and dopamine going... Most people don't like turning down what our behaviours have learned to conceive as "free" because the baseline price has "a higher cost"- And once they start to pervert "private time", it's pretty much game. So the "relaxant" incense is paired with beginner anal toys and laced with aphrodisiac, because besides the normal kind of relaxing, it's actually meant to help newbies relax their ass... But then, since they started with the smallest, the next time they have to pick a bigger sex toy for more bonus Gal Points... Actually this isn't so bad, let's up the size once more and grab the lollipop version of the incense "98 out of 100 users find its effect most intense while maintaining a smooth, even, hypnotic pace back and forth along its length..." Oh, why the hell not? They even have a nice little collection of pep-talk VRs to watch while you're doing it! And before they know it, they completely switched over to anal masturbation, no chastity necessary, just positive reinforcement and maybe a little extra nerve endings where it feels nice, courtesy of all that practice. I'm still trying to come up with a pitch to sell males on full-blown genitalia switcheroo, though. Maybe split it into "gaining" female parts, and to really enable them for sweet Gal Points, you need to "temporarily" lose the others? After all, you're not using them, right? And you can always go back if you're unsatisfied... So there's no harm in trying! Maybe a little estrus while fertile, for luck?And of course, while pairing that up with extra-sweet deals on Gal lingerie, makeup, makeovers- you don't want to miss out, right?
>>10764331>So do you like "guided" or "programmed/programmable" transformations, and how much input in it would you like to have if you were to pick something like that?I remember the game (if you could even call it that) Newlife had something like this very early on in making your character. You would define your male self and your traits, and then get genderswapped. You could choose how directed the changes were, whether they were more mental or physical and whether or not you were aware for the change immediately or had to figure it out through gameplay.Probably the only interesting game mechanic in a TSF game outside of potion lab or dungeon depths and added a lot to replayability value.
here lads let me vent I know this isn't a game thread but its semi related but how come 99% of gender bending games are those fucking stupid FUCKING STUPID html story life simulator games. Who in the actual fuck thinks TSF content is at its peak when you put all the shit behind a repetitive wall of text. Like fuck off you dumb cunt. HTML LIFE SIMULATORS ARE THE MOST BORING SHIT. X goes to sleep. X goes to school. X gets minor event that increases femininity level by 1. Do this times for a significant change/scene. Also fuck 3d games that do this shit too. I feel like the only fucker that has pulled off a good tsf game is a fucking furry game by doggiebones. Anyways. Carry on lads.
>>10764602>play porn games for systems>hurt yourself and stopDang anon, it's like me when I do my periodic check of the hypnosis tag for consensual content leading into oblivious transformation after desires are confessed but shyness or neuroses prevent overtly embracing them.
>>10764602What 3D games? I only know of text games like that.
>>10764602>Who in the actual fuck thinks TSF content is at its peak when you put all the shit behind a repetitive wall of text.Most TSF games follow the formula of reading through walls of text only to see the dreaded -PATH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION- that makes you realize you spent thirty minutes reading to nothing. The point of a TSF game is to be a GAME first not a crappy CYOA. This is something very few TSF game makers seem to understand. If it has to be a mostly text-based game it should at least have a lot of options for what you can do. Only a few student transfer scenarios and (partially) press switch do that.All I'm asking for is an actual game, even a basic one, that uses TSF elements. The TSF boardgame by chinesesilklanterns is better than almost all the RPGmaker and HTML games I've played, because it's an actual game first even if it's only one that takes ten minutes.>Also fuck 3d games that do this shit too3D TSF games prove that sometimes it's better to just have no images at all. TSF card battle is ruined by 3D art and the anime card packs are far more limited. I would even take kisekae stuff over 3D art.
looking for anon story from adventurer go on a goblin killing sidequest and gets bested by a lucky goblin who parries his magic sword attack with a derelict artifact which gets reactivated by the magical sword and binds to the hero good setup but I forgot to read the rest
>>10764618>is better than almost all the RPGmakercould you go into more detail in what you don't like about rpgmaker games? its just they are my favorites (has long as there is no unmarked interact able tiles), and i am interested in a different perspective. (is it that they tend to be bad ending centric?)>>10764627second this.
>>10764631>>10764631found it. https://fictionmania.tv/stories/readtextstory.html?storyID=1692186606596706288author alleges to be kokopelli (i think i spelled that right) AKA the developer of X-change Life game of tfgames. Shouts out, appreciate you
>>10764589>I'm still trying to come up with a pitch to sell males on full-blown genitalia switcheroo, though.That's a tough fucking sell and would probably require you to be meaner. I'm thinking an introductory offer on a really effective penis enhancement product (harder, longer, hentai-tier orgasms), maybe bundle some free with male sex toys so you're targeting people that really enjoy playing with themselves. After a handful of pills, jack the price way up, but give another introductory offer for an enhanced version that also increases stamina. Two tricks there: 1. it's a suppository 2. It increases stamina by making it impossible to ejaculate. Since some (read: all) users have difficulty ejaculating while using the product, it comes bundled with a small prostate massager and a sample packet of sensitizing lube. Combined, the three result in a mind-blowing orgasm, but then there's trick 3. the lube makes you a girl for a few hours after you nut. The label would say something like "May result in temporary loss of penis," which most would assume is a misprint. Nope.From there, you'd already have most of the people here hooked, but you could do something to make penile stimulation less fun when you're not using the suppository. From there, the customer can order again once for cheap, but after that the price is ridiculous. If the company is being an ass about selling this stuff and men now NEED to get/enjoy their erections, there'd be a points program they can use for fat discounts. All they have to is use Galcorp's female product lineup while they're female. Naturally, they earn more points and get freebees when using the longer-lasting intentional transformation products, and if they change permanently there's a lifetime discount...That'd get some people at least. I'm thinking maybe some kind of social media that encourages people to use product, go on dates and hook up would work well too, so potential GBees get the full female experience would be good.
For me, its more of a power fantasy for me seeing men losing ther musculature and becoming vulnerable
>>10764631RPGmaker games have the same problem as the afformentioned walltext games in that they're often unfinished and take a great deal of time investment. In theory a genderswap RPG maker game could be good (Zombie R was) but most are lacking and incomplete.I also hate JRPGs so that might color my view of the gameplay loop. These are ultimately fetish games so if the gameplay loop is just tedium than why even have it
>>10764681Oh damn, I completely forgot about the social media aspect. That would definitely draw tons of people just by giving them a community that encourages and rewards them positively as long as they play along. I have to go to bed, but what immediately makes me think of sim-sense VR. Not only can you "try before you buy" with others' recordings, but since galCorp advertises as a female product company, you could arbitrarily make it either WAY more client-rewarding to download "female" or "penetrative (receiving) recordings, or make put up a disclaimer that for calibration reasons, they end up way more pleasant than any with penile sensations... And all your friends are poking you, encouraging you to view their recordings and give them a thumbs up, and if you sync your masturbation to their recordings, you get TONS of free stuff for their female products... so if you need to "temporarily" switch up, no big deal, right? Say, a day, two days? Aah, but it's just so much more convenient to go for longer at a time though- prices really scale up with repeated small time slots.And if these switches also jack up your breast's sensitivity overall, it's just so you enjoy your time more! I wouldn't worry about it. And would youl LOOK at those ratings that selfie in those killer heels got you, girl! Totally worth it.Heh. That's the recurring phrase I'd want to use: "I wouldn't worry about it." But even if you don't go with sim-sense stuff, you can definitely make it so "trying out" girl products jacks up sex-enjoyment and happiness WAY up. Make it a bit more of a procedure than just a pill, and all of a sudden it's like wearing glasses for the first time, but for your body, your wellness, your libido- everything is sharper, your skin feels nicer, orgasms feel stronger, last longer, all your new bits are super-sensitive because they're "fresh", and everyone in the community is showering you with their gift coupons and such which can only be sent to "GBee" girls.
Does /d/ like puzzle games?
>>10764731Would you press the button? How many times would you press the button?
>>10764002From the illustration it looks almost like he turned into a 12 foot tall loli
>>10763953I like some kanmuri stuff but EVERY. SINGLE. DOUJIN has the exact same protagonist female body type. Same chest size, same plumpness. It gets a bit repetitive.
>Guy and girl>The TG'ed guy ends up with bigger boobas than the girlThat's my fetish.
>>10764770That's the good stuff.I always prefer when the TS'd guy ends up with a super sexy body to really hammer it down the change.
>>10764708Guy, you throw in ultra-realistic full dive VR and you lower the resistance bar a ton. I should've thought of that; I was trying to slow roll the process of becoming a girl by warming the user up to anal insertion, but just playing VR? Basically a cheat code. Experiencing a girl's pleasure would be "just a movie" that would change your life. Cheap toys, temp changes and a way less aggressive rewards program would be all you'd need. Social media presence would probably pop up organically since you've now gone from shady dealer to lifestyle company. Make enhancements like that accessible and I have to wonder how many actual women would go in for Galcorp's stuff as well. It may.not be as fresh and new, but it'd still feel good, right?
>>10764731Mogmog's art leaves something to be desired, but that was still a pretty fun puzzler. Here's the link if any of you wanted to try ithttps://www.deviantart.com/cailsx/art/EN-Translation-Nakayoshi-House-982148295
Anybody know the name of that HTML game where you are a ghost and you have to build a new body from the parts of the people around you?
>>10764708I definitely could see newly switched "GBees" getting introduced by a more experienced "GBee" to the pleasure of being a woman. Maybe a girl's night out that ends with a little private time to show her all the good stuff.>>10764869Yeah that's a good point, it probably spoils the fun and moves the tags to a different kind of story. Still, there's probably fun to be had with AR and basic VR. God knows vtubers are making money hand over fist and people are already having their fun with primitive current gen VR-chat avatars.How about... making the "first swap" last a good long while with some made up excuse. So customers would sort of naturally dry up what's easily accessible for cheap staying as a man, but not to worry! Trying the GB program is easy as pie. It's a liiittle bit of a strain at first, so doctor's orders is you gotta keep it on for a month or so the first time. No big deal, right? And during that time, they get showered with encouragements, gifts, and socials, and at the same time, their entire online and meatspace socials have to go a makeover for "legal" reasons- so effectively, it's an entire month "living" as a new person. New name, new body, and plenty of bait to extend the month. I said AR because that's actually one of the easy ways to "lure" a Gbee into trying new things. It's like today's filters, but WAY more advanced, and with socials, you get tons of encouragements to go for it as though you already pulled the trigger... And when you accept the dress, next the shop pitches a few looks with nice makeups, and when you accept that, underwear and legwear and footwear, and then come sex toys, and trying them out, whew! And with VR, their avatar is swapped up- and surprise! Galcorp filters all the nasty messages as spam, so it's like suddenly being much more popular- even to the point of keeping it subdued for introverts, but present and unmistakable... Soon enough life as a girl seem a lot more pleasant than it did as a guy.
>>10764983Although high grade VR could still be worked in as an incentive, just not as widely available. Instead, a "won" lottery could grant a customer flagged for their receptiveness one-time access to a high grade rig with a selection of recordings with plenty of light stimulation mixed inside "casual" recordings and tons of downright captivating stimulation thrown into the "adult" ones. So you get started with relaxation videos and sleeping aids, start to dive deeper with the offers and gift certificates and reward programs tailored to your preferences, and after some time using Galcorp's products, a "nonstandard" bonus introduces you to what it feels like to have no refractory period and highly sensitive nerve endings in a bombshell's body, and all of a sudden the freebies are good, but you want /More/, you start to actively pursue it, no matter what you sign up for in the process. Definitely could also be fun to think about.
>>10764983I thought I had an example story where AR is used to entice the character into springing for a makeover, but it's not actually a TSF story, sorry. Still, it lets her look at what the new haircut and accents would look like into an AR mirror, sprucing it up juuuust enough to give it the little peps that seals the deal and gets her to go for it, so the idea remains the same.
>>10764902Trading Up, by Robin? only game on tfgs i can think of that fits
>>10764447rentry.org?
>>10765006link to it as inspiration anyway?
>>10765030https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/PhD/25223/Much-More-than-Trim
>>10764983>How about... making the "first swap" last a good long while with some made up excuse.Keeping it short is for the best. Just a few hours, long enough for someone to panic, call Galcorp's 25 hour ("because we care that much!") support line, be reassured, then jill off into a coma. An alarming but pleasant happening akin to a drug trip rather than a dystopian experience where people are telling you you're going to be stuck this way for a meaningful period of time, you know it's going to disrupt your life and you start looking for a support group. Like, an actual support group, not a subverted one.Really, I think actually being a girl with a few toys in a comfortable environment (maybe more than once) would be enough, you just need to make the three things happen at the same time. Galcorp is making quality stuff, people just need to experience it. VR would make that possible without them having to get samples into the asses of millions of people that aren't especially interested, but it's not like they couldn't sell without. Come to think, paying brothels to push samples could be a great idea, too.Anyway, the challenge is just in getting a few positive experiences under most people's belts; after that, porn physiology and "free" crap will do the rest.
>>10765036Hm, your way is definitely easier. I'm skipping too many steps. "Vetted" resort/brothels are probably the best way to do it. No strings attached, you fill out your preferences going in, and you get an escort tailored to your tastes to both ease you into it and make the sex unforgettable when it inevitably gets worked in. You go in, then are free to take it easy at the salon, enjoy a night at the town with a chaperon, or get godlike sex in a private suite with all the toys you can think of; and then you want it again.I guess longer "trials" work better with less friendly setups, more "entrapment" oriented stories. EG, Instead of getting you with light stuff like happy pills, they offer more invasive treatment meant to soothe ailments more deeply anchored -neuroses, resistant forms of depressions, even defects- and the catch is you hand over your body for their other program while the cure is administered. I should note this all down and try to do a story about it. I've been wanting to do a story with at least two acquaintances going into something like that "together", in turn egging each other and revelling in the exploration forever.Although, I've completely lost track of it, but originally I was thinking about "pick your own" options to accentuate when undergoing transformations. I wonder how that could be worked into it? Maybe bigger (or bigger faster) breasts comes with your recommendations suddenly being packed with plunging necklines and breast play and even lactation stimulants? And I lost track of "copilot", or perhaps "assistant AI" companions that help nudge things forward. (Buy it now for a complimentary set of remote-control rotors!)I wish I had more TSF images to contribute though.
Here's a r63 Rusty for AC fans here.
>>10765056>I've completely lost track of itYou just started a minor in Marketing because you have a fetish. Remember to KISS and go back to incentivized surveys and Alexabots. Identifying trends based on customer feedback and what they browse a single available marketplace is doable even now. Temporary transformations allow for all sorts of experimentation in body types and the like, that much is baked in. Separate add-on products or custom pills for the effects.
>>10765073>incentivized surveys and Alexabots.Incentivized surveys?>remember KISSBut I want to follow the yellow brick road, or the pink pill one or whatever they're calling it until I get no-homo knocked up by a friend (female) (now with a cock and a very active libido). No homo.
>>10765084>Incentivized surveys?You know, "fill out this questionnaire and we'll give you stuff" type deals.>But I want to follow the yellow brick road, or the pink pill one or whatever they're calling it until I get no-homo knocked upThe shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Following the meandering will slow you down, you gotta pave your own way with a rock hard cock you wish was a vagina and your autism laser focused.I have no images remotely related to this discussion, but goddamn Bertrand is hot.
>>10765090I don't like straight lines. Straight lines shot my sister. I'm gonna write this shit, and I'll make it less straightforward than the mutant child of undead burg and old yharnam's intestines wound around a cotton candy machine, and it'll definitely not stay as a buried idea .txt gathering dust this time.
>>10765090Also, thanks for the responses anon. I wonder what it's like for women into this fetish.
Quick questions for everyone:TSF as a business: Y/N/Only in some parts of the world?TSF: For everyone, opt-in, selected?Height, genitals, MG (or monster boys, if those even exist), roboticization/androidification. race: is it TFS? TSF: at will, or irreversible?
>>10765059Girls in pilot suits are top tier, and I would happily give up my dick to pilot a giant robot. Especially if it's part of the human plus suite.
>>10764894I personally liked his work, which sucks because he went all-in on the AI art and only posts that stuff now
>>107646153D meant images, but Femdom Uni would fall into this category but its not as bad as others. Forgotten by Desidee was perfect.>>10764618You nailed it. I don't mind HTML games having a lot of text per se, I mean twine is made for that. But a fucking life simulator. Go to room. Go to sleep. Go to Kitchen. Open door. Go to work. Go to dinner. 50% Probability of finally reaching a step forward in the story. Go to sleep. You can't sleep in your work clothes. Go to wardrobe. Oh you can't sleep. You need to urinate. This formula is retarded and they all do it and while they are it - they try to reinvent something thats already done and is boring. So while they are developing this system they only have a few paragraphs of story. If we're lucky!!! It is no wonder 90% of games are abandoned when they needlessly overcomplicate something that should be simple. Completely agree with you when they don't understand they are making a game. There is no reason for this and you're just blocking content. You should see the games the femdom/foot fetish crowd are getting, its actually really well done imo, sadly none of them contain TSF content. I imagine a Bo Wei/Leonelli/Necropanzer style rpgmaker game where you are trapped in x dungeon where cute succubus girl wants to drain your masculinity and make you a maid or daughter corrupting you with femininity and new found desires etc. There are cursed objects, can you resist their allure? Anyways each defeat makes her stronger. Shit I'd be diamonds. Pandemonium Classic Unity as a game is decent but sadly all the avatars are women. Could be modded. I've honestly been thinking about making a mod for project zomboid to turn all the zombies into bimbos. I've already made a similar mod before. Of the TSF rpg games I tried it was a theme that I didn't care for. Instantaneous transformation before the game even starts, rest plays like an average rpgmaker game. >>10764605I find myself unsatisfied in that area too lmao.
>>10765106>TSF as a business: Y/N/Only in some parts of the world?Yes but only in seedy part of the world like vietnam or indonesia, places known for their sex tourism where things can go wrong really quickly>TSF: For everyone, opt-in, selected?opt-in or unwillingly, but always just for sex related reasons>Height, genitals, MG (or monster boys, if those even exist), roboticization/androidification. race: is it TFS?as long as it starts from a male with a penis and ends in a woman with a vagina, it is TSF, even if said vagina is made of nuts and boltsTSF: at will, or irreversible?irreversible
https://nhentai.net/g/405218/>when at least one of the male characters starting out looks like a bottomYou just know
>>10765141Oh, I just remembered playing 1 good TSF Rpgmaker game but I don't remember the title. I think it was unfinished at the time. It followed a party of 4, men and women, who were in VR? anyways, enemies would attack and each attack would increase their theme transformation meter until they turned them into a slut etc and steal them from the party one by one permanently sealing their transformation. If anyone knows ? There was a strip club scenario where the party got transformed into strippers and the MC had to keep their wits about them as they worked in the club as it was influencing his behaviour and thoughts.
>>10765141The allure of TSF games for me is the slow or gradual transformation. I hate playing life simulators or TSF rpgs that eventually just make your character instantly a woman without even text detailing the body changes. Might as well be a non-TSF eroge with a female character from the start.
I remember this TG game that starts with the male hero turning into a woman. She can get bigger boobs and even turn into a cow girl depending on what you pick.
>>10765181Yeah.. I never liked instant transformations either. Poof u a woman now. Ok great, but seems to have no affect on the game/character/story at all.
>>10765150Lockdown by finalhg800
does anyone have a link to the game 決闘 ?it supposedly inspired the rpg maker game "Insignificance" by imaginary albatross
>>10765113Human plus suite? For me, it's that the interface means the AI can condition you however the fuck it want by controlling your neurotransmitter releases. Dull pain, give you jolts when you obey its suggestions, make you feel good when you let it be the primary pilot. I know there's a CYOA where it talks about communing with it while it feeds of cosmic radiation.
How do you feel about "shoulder angel/demon" weighting in and trying to shape the new body after their preferences? Demure VS slutty, but both pushing towards being a girl?
>>10763967>>10763968Fucking LOVE the instant female transformation without world rewrite, it's so humiliating.
>>10765371Armored Core term. Basically enhanced humans before they changed it to augmented humans in 6. For your typical AC story, though, there isn't really going to be much point to reconditioning your pilots considering... you know, the AC world is a grinder and there's little room for the kind of materialism we associate with femininity usually.
>running on no sleep for 40 hours>have an episode where i can imagine my waifu's body from first person perspective perfectly at while while jerking off>finish and sleep>wake up and can still do it, even imagining the sensations of different parts of the body seemingly perfectly>it's been several days and not only can i still do it at will i can't bring myself to do anything else in my free timeif this shit-tier fetish is what leads me into psychosis i'm honestly KYSing
>>10765733>it's been several days and not only can i still do it at will i can't bring myself to do anything else in my free timeTake a break from jerking off and there's no problem.
>>10764731>>10764894Pretty fun game, had some challenge to it. Does anyone have a System.sav with all the endings? 20 endings is a few steps too time consuming for me with all the permutations involved.
>>10765733congrats on gaining projective empathy.DO NOT USE THIS POWER WHILE FAPPING TO RYONA.Learn from my mistakes
https://nhentai.net/g/405934/>humans get experimented on like lab mice by being crammed together into a room for days until they start to lose their minds>the dominant male leads the other men to rape the women in the room as the humans inevitably start to revert to Grug instincts>the researchers later knock everyone out and remove all of the women>remaining men become like clownfish and a set number changes sex to reestablish environmental balance>the feminine male and the alpha get selected at random to become female, upsetting the dominance hierarchy>former alpha cut down by Sword of Damocles and turned into a girl, now his former lackeys start raping him partly out of revenge for their past treatmentThe nerd in me is too fucking fascinated by how the author pulled this off to even find it hot
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>>10765733So is your vision altered or something, or can you just imagine the tactile sensations in your mind's eye very well? I've had circumstances where I've been female in dreams, but never something to the level that you've described>>10765877>Learn from my mistakesSo this is something that can be emulated and learned as a practice? Any tips?
>>10764602>Plays VN>Wants gameplay not walls of textAnon, I
>>10766035Reading comprehension check please.
Damn, do I love fairy TFTG's.
>>10766279I was into it until the goo part, such a lazy way to not show the genitals transforming.
>>10766284an oldie but a goodie, for sure.
>>10766287Agreed.
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>>10764602RAGS filtered all the random ESL shitters from creating anything back then. Nowadays pretty much anyone can shit out a v0.02 life simulator game using HTML.>The Masculine Mystique >BIMBO CHEERLEADER SORORITY BIKINI BABES BUST OUT!>Ooze Wizard Apprentice>Sleepover Makeover>Booth Babe>Girlfriend>Play ThingsExamples of HTML TG games that are actually good/had potential. Nobody wants to play Cursed/Girl Life clone #28757 (which is more often than not just sissyshit instead of actual gender bender). Fuck your pointless grinding.
>people mention they hate gameplay elements in their html text based life sim games>I want to create a game with those elements because I genuinely enjoy themam I a weirdo with shit taste? Maybe I'm in the wrong industry, how do I not shit an html game up?
>>10766890Has someone who doesn't like html life sims the major issues are: 1-they rarely get finished.2-they are way to slow and seemingly designed to last forever. .One (unfinished) game that had a good idea for the second problem is "Yu and Mei" where you only play for about a week when the transformation is still active and changes into different types of girls depending of your decisions, getting an ending by the end of the week.
>>10766778I miss the Kimberly Rex games like Popular/Girly Gauntlet. Still my favorites there.
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>>10766778Man now I'm recalling when every TG was you pissed of a witch prepare to suffer suitablly ironic punishment.
>>10765371"talks about communing with it while it feeds of cosmic radiation."This reminds me of a story I'd like to re-find:A guy goes to his boss and asks him if there is a way he can get ahead in his job. The boss sends him to this class where he gets brainwashed and feminized with some sort of radiation. By the time his wife leaves him, his only thought is he cannot believe what she's wearing. Soon after that, he encounters one of the men who is paying for this at a party. The man offers the guy a ride home in his limo and the guy gives the man a blow job rationalizing it as 'it's not sex of you don't take off your clothes.' Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>10766995>picture of James Franco for the male protagonist>"Yep, this is me. Just your ordinary attractive young college-aged male."I really do miss the RAGS era, as terrible as the engine was. Kimberly Rex's games are classics.
>>10767087Allow me to propose a devil's bargain to the thread:>You get a giant robot - massive, can hold you neatly in the palm of it's hand. Not a secret sex trap or some fucked up assimilation plot, just a straight up giant robot.>You will be transformed into an anime girl as part of it's piloting requirements. Minor psychic powers optional, but there's no way to undo it. You are also obligated to wear the skintight piloting suit for maximum performance.>No mental reconditioning or anything- at most, the pilot suit has heels for hooking into the pedals like stirrups, anything else is solely on you. However, that means there'll be nothing to soften the blow mentally. Nor can you use the transformation as a cope when you inevitably think about some of the maintenance boys showing you a good time after a hard sortie.>You are probably in a gritty world with mercenary pilots or large wars going on.>You can never get your dick back.Do you accept?
Pretty cool TG that has probably fallen under your radar:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCsCrF8QIE
>>10767442The only reason not to is the world, and it won't even apply if you live in E.G. current day Argentina.
>>10767442I don't know why any of this would possibly be a downside. I don't *want* my dick back. Give me the biggest tits and ass you can possibly manage for extra padding.
>>10767442NTA but.I get a giant robot and (hopefully) a hot body on a sexy pilot suit with no strings attached (outside the war world I guess but minor detail) ?Sounds like a win-win to me!
>>10767448This is from a film called "Giohazard," which is essentially a zombie movie where the infected become girls. It is played completely straight in the zombie movie formula, to its own detriment as the bulk of the film is scenes of people standing around talking and the main conflict is between rival groups of survivors, not the office lady horde.
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>>10766890If you HAVE to make an HTML game you must do TWO!!! things:-Finish the game before you release it (this is very important)-Give it replay value, don't draw out each runthrough of the game for hours.A short game with some choices (potion lab or mystery box) is better than a slog that's hours long and not finished
>>10767448>Big breasts>That actressOh, Asia.
>>10767346Awful engine. Which is why when someone actually went through with it, you can tell they really wanted to. That and it was more to the point than life sims since they wanted it to be done.
I hate Arisa Yoshi.Fucker draws the hottest girls but has them get fucked by guys who wouldn’t look out of place in an NTR manga
>>10767729Okay. What do you want us to do about it, though?
>>10766890Often, devs add gameplay elements that serve no purpose and just make things more tedious.Or the dev doesn't play their game without cheats and realize how tedious something is, or even outright broken.Like TF Card Battle's metaprogression system, which was excessively grindy, and because the dev never used it, he didn't realize the true ending was impossible to unlock.
>>10766978>>10767552>>10767752well, I can see people want a very complex type of game to be finished. A person only has so much time however so I might as well just focus on the writing part then, instead of making any game. Or maybe just create incredibly short kinetic Visual Novels
>>10766890>>10767804I don't give a shit about gameplay. I'm happy to play a cyoa. Ideally you add choices of some sort, maybe of what sort of girl the MC ends up as, or even a way to not be stuck as a girl. I'd be happy if there's even one finished path though.Best ever cyoa HTML game I played was https://tfgames.site/index.php?module=viewgame&id=1406That one's really remarkable because there's hidden variables governing MC's femininity that tweak how the scenes play out. Most notable is if MC is still masculine, she'll try (and fail) to bring in all the groceries all at once. If she's in the middle, she'll try and realize it's fruitless, and if she's high femininity, then she'll happily take multiple trips without any mention of even the possibility of trying to load up on several bags at once. It's really great because there's actually no indication that the scene is different unless you play through multiple times (or look at the HTML like I did to see the variables under the hood). It's probably a bit ambitious to have different variations of every scene though, and this author figuratively perished before the game was even close to done. If you wanna make a good HTML *game* though (as opposed to just an interactive novel or even kinetic novel), this is the way to do it.I'd be perfectly happy with a passably written kinetic novel though.
>>10766778Man, you just mentioning RAGS unlocked some core memories I didn't know I still had.Now I kinda wanna go back to play some of the games I liked back then, but at the same time, fuck RAGS and its non-backwards compatible versions that were such a pain to figure out
>>10767442Deal. Bring on the psychological trauma.
>>10767813Do your choices affect the MC's appearance at all? Like bust size/body shape? I always like to try to make the MC of a TS-centric game as curvy as I can.
>>10767831I need Angela Balzac character TF in my life.
>>10767471>>10767475>>10767477>>10767831So I was expecting at least one person to get vocally upset, which seems to happen anytime a choice is proposed that results in losing your dick, even if it's in exchange for superpowers or magic. This however provides weight to my theory that mechs are either such peak masculinity that your sex barely matters or people who want to pilot giant robots don't care about such trivialities.
>>10767729I like it, I can self insert more easily that wa
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>>10767861A giant robot is a giant robot. The hot body is just a bonus/low price to pay. I also can't say no to huge tits on a pilot suit, even if it's myself.
>>10767861We dig giant robots.Not much else to say there.
What kind of body you like to see? Boyish, average, luscious, petite, cute, mature, top-heavy, androgynous?
>>10768033Super top heavy, easily. Not only hot but a constant unavoidable reminder of the transformation.Bonus points for making normal girls jealous.
>>10768033Wide hips. Nothing to make you feel your masculinity slipping as your hips push further and further apart, making you more breedable and suited to motherhood by the moment.
>>10767442Wait, so not only do I get my own personal giant mecha, but I can also elect to get newtype like powers? The two "downsides" are being stuck as an anime girl and having to wear something like picrel?I think I would have probably gone for this even before I realized I had this fetish desu. Piloting a mecha has been a dream of mine for as long as I can remember.>>10767861 As this chad said, mechs are such a manly romance, that becoming a literal cutesy anime girl in no way would invalidate the sheer manly energy that would still permeate around me in the cockpit. I definitely accept.
>>10768138True, the male romance of piloting a giant robot has nothing to do with your body, you can be a hot blooded pilot saving the day, a child soldier fighting to protect what they love, someone who rebels against the unfair cruel world, a cyborg that fights for humanity even after losing their own or whatever, the Mecha fantasy is too wild and can be enjoyed regardless if you have huge tits or not. I would say it's even beyond a male romance, it's an universal constant of romance.Plus girls on pilot suits are really hot.
>>10767804Potion Lab doesn't seem to be that complex. Any playthrough takes maybe twenty minutes at the absolute most. A TSF game that's short but has choices can be more memorable
>>10767861I didn't bother replying, but despite usually being part of the crew that wants to keep their dick, I'd refuse only due to the implied grimdark world. The deal is otherwise sweet enough to be worth it because robots are fucking sick.
>>10768033Variety is the spice of life. I'm a breast man so a big bust with matching hips never misses, but anything clearly feminine can work as long as the artist has a sense of aesthetics and understands proportions. Pic related is among my favorite TG images despite the modest curves just because everything is put together well.
>>10768033I love turning males into top heavy girls. Could be tall or shortstacks like a Draph.But really, if i had multiple targets, then i like to make variety. So even cunny, oppai loli, slightly muscular, boyish or androgynous are also nice options.
>>10768033Yes.
>>10767839Unfortunately no. The physical transformation is short and then basically all the changes after that are mental changes.
>>10767442>You are probably in a gritty world with mercenary pilots or large wars going on.As cool as piloting a mech would be, I don't want to live in some kind of hellish, war-torn techno-dystopia.
>>10768203>>10768285Yeah, that's fair. I just didn't want to present a giant robot that existed just to exist. Mechs just hanging around is like having puppy without a stick to throw for it. You gotta have purpose, and it's not like they'd build giant robots without an enemy to throw them at.
>>10768349That's fair, but a bit of clarification could help a bit.Are we talking super grimdark and distopic or something more "tame" like most mecha anime?
>>10768349It could just be our world with one mech dropped into it by an alien species to fight off a sudden kaiju invasion.
>>10768361>something more "tame" like most mecha animeEven something as mainstream as Gundam has an abundance of death and mindbreak.
>>10768361Definitely most mecha anime. I'm not talking 40k princeps or anything like that. Armored Core's on my mind for obvious reasons, but I personally wasn't imagining something like 6, more like some of the calmer eras of Battletech and a few of the Gundam AUs. Almost all mecha settings have an element of bleakness to them because of the enemy that prompts building giant robots, of course, so I tend to hold the standard at 'you can conceivably retire and not be assassinated for no reason'. I'm a big fan of how in most of Ace Combat, the ending for individual characters is 'got to retire eventually'.There's probably a reason I could spin off for why everyone is transformed into a girl as part of the piloting process, but at that point I'm less asking a thread question and more writing the intro for a Mech CYOA.
>>10768349>You gotta have purpose, and it's not like they'd build giant robots without an enemy to throw them at.I live in a country that fields an invisible fighter jet so super special we refuse to sell it to anyone else. So far we've used it to pop big party balloons, but we're still planning TWO newer, better jets in case someone fucks about. You could totally have a war where pilots have a reasonable chance of surviving long enough to come home, put on some lacy Victoria's Secret™ lingerie, schlick until they're hoarse, then enjoy a root beer and only slightly rationed steak. Short of that, I'd question the worthiness of the trade. There are shades of gray.
>>10767813I really wish that one wasn't dead.IIRC, the more "male" choices or stuff that might help you return to being a male could become less visible if you kept picking feminine choices which felt like it was reflecting the MC's mental state in gameplay form.Wish another game borrowed that idea.
>>10768399Yeah that was also great. If you pick the initial choice that gives the magic transformation artifact more mindwhammy power over you, there are male/resist choices that are completely blacked out, yet still selectable. You have to either highlight the choice area to see them or press tab. You wouldn't know they're there unless you're looking for them (or see them in the HTML like I did). It's so fucking good.
>>10768138It finally happened.Both kinds of TSF in one thread. We can go home now. We beat /D/
Penal public service that implicitly alludes to TSF (with knowledge an acquaintance sprung for it but no knowledge of how it went) or doing actual jail: would you?
>>10768275Damn, that sucks. Half the fun of a TG for me is getting big tits and a sexy bubble butt to really remind you you're now *feminine*.
For whatever reason, reading this thread's discussion on gameplay makes me want to concept a tg/tf sRPG like Fire Emblem. But I can't really imagine how it would play out.Maybe in the spirit of Faria-anon's favorite ancient Japanese game, the protagonist is simply revealed at one point to have been tf'd. And theoretically they've been written in such a way that suddenly their interactions with other characters take on a new light. Or maybe following the Ominous Invasion of the protagonist's home, or whatever the narrative set up is, they use a genderbend as a disguise, and the gameplay incorporates that by having them living a double life, with separate parties in each gender, who know them in different contexts, and they play differently in male and female chapters, until the appropriate narrative beats combines the parties and lets the MC use both skill sets at once. Like I'm imagining this in combination with that assassin-healer thing I chattered a bit about a few months ago, which didn't go anywhere.>>10768033I'm on the cute/petite/average side of preference. Androgynous works in tg/tf if, say, the MC starts getting insecure about it, and actively works to be seen as more feminine (for example in clothing choice, or purposefully pitching their voice up). The larger sizes also work if the MC gets insecure about it, and actively works to minimize or hide it.>>10767861Mecha are a man's romance. And women's, apparently, in the vague-yet-near, grim-yet-tolerable future. >>10768517I'd be autistic and ask for more details about each option. But probably I would.
>>10768614They all work as long as it plays well with the surrounding content. I'm personally fond of top percentile curves that the character doesn't bat an eye at, failing to understand what the big deal is, whether realization kicks in belatedly and embarrassment erupts, or instead she embraces it without a fuss, making it even more difficult to ignore this new incredible body.
>>10768614Assume your crime is legitimate and not trumped up- whether circumstances justify it or not. However it's not a shithole world. Jail isn't great but it's humane. How long the sentence should be is left to the discretion of the reader. The program is all kind of shady, you can probably hear about loophole stuff if you look into it, but it's not my intention to be malicious. It's sketchy and probably slippery and not very honest, but they can take no. It just won't be much fun. (Being fair, jail isn't fun either, so.)You might think of it as its organizers pitching it as something like rehabilitation, it's kinda sketchy but not too much, and maybe the alternatives are just full-up for the next year so it's the only one open.
>tfw you wake in your pod to a wonderful warm tingling running through your new body>you bask in the fuzzy afterglow for a few minutes before you realize what that means: ALLMIND has made some new "alterations" again>and judging by the new weight on your chest and the sway of your hips, it's not hard to guess what changed>you grumble to yourself as you stumble out before your updated movement heuristics unpack and adjust your sense of balance, and grimace as you heft your new assets in the mirror>hard to say you -hate- it, you've long enjoyed the benefits of being her primary physical terminal by now>but her neverending need for a "company face" and constant tweaks to your body means that you go through clothes at a frankly absurd rate, especially women's underwear>your own voice comes back to you in your head, that immaculate, unflinching cadence all the more noticable since it's your own voice you're hearing>she assures you that a new wardrobe, perfectly tailored to your new measurements, was ordered last night before she even applied the update.>and before you can interrupt, she reassures you that the new figure was precisely measured to be within the accepted stress limits of your pilot suit since of course, your day always starts with pilot exercises or the occasional sortie as "Kate.">clearly those limits need to be updated, you think as you struggle to squeeze into a suit that was already comfortably snug, thinking that for all you know this is another "stress test" she failed to inform you of>oh well, you think as you admire yourself once it's done. You'll get your revenge on her later tonight, in the "personal time" she set aside for the two of you>after all, you have some "stress testing" rituals you need to do as well>>10767442I'm having a hard time envisioning a reason I wouldn't accept this. All I can ask is for a high-cut plugsuit, due to my crippling leotard fetish.
>>10768647it's mostly a question of what the public service would be actually DOING. in a porn thread there's a certain implication, I guess, and if it's that I'd be more inclined to mundane prison. but barring that, I'd happily go for the alternative if it's basically parole with a stipulation to show up for your time doing litter clean-up in skimpy clothes or whatever. I suppose it could be more like the latter with the push towards or expectation that you'd do the former? one day the organizers get all the program members who are on good behavior together and present them to the bigwigs, who take their pick for assistants with a dress code or some such
>>10768375>>10767442I think my disinterest in this concept stems from my dislike of Japanese mecha generally. The mecha seen in stuff like Titanfall or Battletech is generally far more appealing to me. Unfortunately most western mecha settings seem to lack the zanyness that would make TSF make sense. There was a korean manhwa called Beast 9 that was about a TSF (body swap) scenario needed to operate a mech, but I found the mech's design distasteful.I like spaceships and spaceship combat more than mecha and once made a TG caption with a premise similar to what you describe. Men would become women for the duration of a tour of duty, mainly to save on mass/consumables and for the benefit that a psychological shift could have (ship crew would be more loyal if they knew their only way back to manhood was to be successful)
>>10768689It's actually stress relief corps (the official term is morale support) for shipgirls, which due to biopunk reasons related to martial temperament all have a full set of junk. Which due to hem-hem reasons also comes with a rather high libido.Said stress relief can be mundane errands but the program angles for you to hook up as their partner. It's "penal" because nobody wanted the PR nightmare that was pitching "we need totally-not-prostitutes for this new-fangled program the egg-heads got underway that shows real promise but whose maintenance needs are, uh, y'know," but obviously there's serious implication that if they approach you with the offer there was a lot of profiling before it. Actually now that I write it out it really could just be a heavily NDA'd assignment with relocation for excellent compensation. That's probably more attractive. There's no official reason for the TSF, but the reality is simply that the creator behind the shipgirl is a massive pervert. The junk, the libido, the disinterest in genetic females are all just Features(TM) that could be ironed out but were kept in. (*cough* copious ingestion of their bodily fluids may of may not result in interesting reactions in the drinker. *cough*).
Does anyone remember the name of the (ecchi?) series with the redheaded American who wakes up in Japan as a girl. And there’s a massive language barrier played for laughsI stopped reading when the MC was getting chased by some sort of cult and I never bookmarked it, now its my lost white whale.
>>10768771see, that's a lot of a lot more relevant information about the assignment than was originally provided...
>>10768614I did play an sRPG that had a number of tf/tg bits in it but I can't remember the name, and gamessite doesn't let me search by type of game/genre, unfortunately.
>>10768803Because it's an elaborate setup for remote-location futa-on-male life and eventual sex with gradual feminization but no real TSF requirements.
>have dream where I take a pill that turns me female>have erotic moments with close irl male friend>wake up with raging boner>go back to sleep to continue dream>this is not the first time I've had dreams like thison a scale of 1 - "so over", how ruined am I?
>>10768230Any news on when more of the avatar series from them is coming out?
>>10768614There is a game called Oathbreaker that I think meets your requirements. Its a work in progress, but there are several chapters of it out and its pretty solid so far. https://tfgames.site/index.php?module=viewgame&id=2751
>>10768517>>10768689State sponsored surrogacy program. You can either go to normal prison, or get TG'd and serve a greatly reduced sentence/be under house arrest but the catch is that you have to do one or more surrogate pregnancies in your female body.
>>10768672>All I can ask is for a high-cut plugsuit, due to my crippling leotard fetish.Anything to get you to sign on the dotted line, pilot.>>10768700That's fair enough, anon. I think I actually read that caption when it was released, but I had an idea that actually involved spaceships a long time ago, more specific than the giant robots, but let me see if I can't dig it out of my brain and see if that appeals...>You'll receive an advanced warship - 'carrier' is a tempting term for it, but the term is becoming wonky as we move further away from naval warfare.>The largest ships have fairly large crews, but unless you've got a massive ship, it's likely the crew will be... one.>The speed of space combat keeps increasing- drones, high speed missiles, autonomous turrets that have less than a second to make decisions on incoming projectiles before they hit, high-G maneuvers that practically immobilize the crew...>And there's the catch- you'll be turned into an anime girl to become it's living computer.>The nerve enhancements and control cybernetics will trade strength and size for sheer endurance, and your new curves aren't labeled as 'processing units' as a joke- they're full of nerves.>It's difficult to understate the sheer improvement to your reaction speed and your clarity of thought, it's like you were asleep before.>Shame your physical body can't keep up with it at all, but when you're bridged to your ship... well, the few hundred drones at your control certainly have no human limitations.>And while the male support crews taunt you on shore leave, none of them are teasing when you go flying past them at a comfortable 40Gs to the combat zone.>And nobody expects the 'big shot' to be a short, curvy girl when the life support casket unlocks after sortie.
>>10768921Not that anon, but that one interests me a lot more, not least because of the improvements to awareness and thinking speed - imagine how much you could just GET DONE through that kind of interface. My ADHD ass self sees that part as pure upgrade.The rest is a very nice bonus.
>>10767442>Do you accept?Do I pick my body? Will I age or stay that way forever?
>>10768941Going any further into detail would just be starting to write a TSF Pilot CYOA. Look at general newtype-ish benefits, I suppose? Innovators in 00 live for like 200 years, but there are plenty of reasons you could probably bullshit living for longer.
>>10768882read the OP>>>/lgbt/
>>10767442>>10768921Almost enough pilots, and a ship pilot, to make our own SRW TS
>>10768614>>10768822Netoria tactics happens to be very inspired by the GBA Fire Emblem games where the protagonist gains the ability to turn into a woman to increase his stats but everytime he uses it his allies start blackmailing him and forcing themselves onto him
>>10768672>due to my crippling leotard fetish.Now that's a feeling I know all too damn well, I love Leotards more than even stuff like genderbender and if I could only have pics or whatever containing a single fetish for the rest of my life, would have to be that.Pic related I spent 10 hours editing, making an undamaged leotard variant because the artist didn't originally make one.
Ayakashi triangle endedYuri endingHowever Matsuri can return to being a man again a later date. Also implied that the main female will learn the genderswap jutsu to switch Matsuri between both. Not a bad ending imo sad to see it end but glad it did since so many genderswap series get cancelled or mangaka loses interest.
>>10768921>Your new curves are all nervesShut up, brain, now is not your time. Anyway, I feel like this works better with a small crew, I'm thinking roughly Outlaw Star style. You'd need at least one other processor to swap with because if you spend your entire months to years long mission plugged in it'd be more like becoming a ship than a girl outside of port, and redundancy is good. A few normal crewmates would be needed as well for companionship (and shenanigans) too. I can imagine them sending people out solo if the tech allows and the processors coming back insane because the human psyche isn't meant for that.
>>10769094Honestly, I was imagining sorties in the vein of a superbomber, or WW2 submarines where you had a tender mothership. No reason to cram all that extra fuel, supplies and who knows what else onto a ship that's going to just pulp them when it slams into a turn hard enough to break your neck unsecured. Even if you could spend months away, your ammo is going to be expended eventually, so you're going to need a tender at some point. That said, you could play it a lot of ways- from Supreme Commander-style symbiotes in command of nanolathe-equipped spacecraft to salvage ships that still have a cute anime girl to navigate through jump space or simply ships that use the integrated pilot when precision is necessary and a normal crew for basic maneuvers.
>>10768882>how ruined am I?You're pretty fucked if they ever make those pills.(Spoiler: That will never happen.)
>>10769070>Ayakashi triangle endedOh shit, I figured it was going to spin its wheels for two hundred more chapters. It's always nice to see manga actually get finished and before they get stale.>>10769094>You'd need at least one other processor to swap withNah, just need an autopilot that can perform basic actions, but is dramatically inferior to the pilot.
>>10768921>I think I actually read that caption when it was releasedIt was released about six months ago and called "Tyranny of the Rocket Equation". Your scenario reminds me a great deal of outlaw star, with the TSF'd male taking the place of Melfina. I imagine there could be a gradual mental feminization thing wherein the pilot can "modify" some of their thinking in order to gain a combat edge, only to realize after the fact that they way they think has changed to be less masculine.>The speed of space combat keeps increasing- drones, high speed missiles, autonomous turrets that have less than a second to make decisions on incoming projectiles before they hit, high-G maneuvers that practically immobilize the crew.I like hard-SF stuff a lot so I was envisioning it in a way that was more dependent upon conserving mass than calculating microsecond-level combat intervals at very high rates of acceleration. When I made that TG cap, I was envisioning the maximum acceleration for spacecraft maybe being two-G at the absolute most. It would be more like Rocket Girls than Outlaw star in that sense, and for closer to the bone in terms of how important mass and propellant are. Also, if the TSF'd male would have to wear an embarrassing female dress uniform (complete with skirt he would have to contend with even in zero-G)I actually tried turning the concept into a CYOA, but it ballooned into me writing the lore for a TTRPG. I wrote all the ships and locations, but I don't really have the will to do much with it besides that. Nor could I think of any reason to include TSF as a plot point or gameplay mechanic
>>10769172>Nor could I think of any reason to include TSF as a plot point or gameplay mechanicYeah, I'm throwing half-serious ideas around in my head and I can't come up with anything that would result in more than a cyborg femboy.
I really like the Mecha/sci-fi TSF discussion going on, keep it up.
>>10769193>anon gets turned into a cyborg combat loli against his will>his body is unaging and body functions the same as a normal humans, needing to eat, etc, on top of super strength>living a long time means eventually running out of memory space, anon has to decide which memories of himself as a man to override until the knowledge is a faint memoryor is that too grim
>>10769202Grim and unnecessary when just living long enough as something else would decrease the importance of those memories of being a male anyway.
>>10769202if they can choose which memories to discard for space it doesn't make much sense.on the other hand, if they've been alive that long then they've probably been in that body a lot longer than they were ever a guy and it probably wouldn't matter anymore.
>>10769193female biomech skin suits with strong instinct to find a husband to pilot them. gives incredible combat power but the suits themselves are clingy.it's not a problem when the suit is being worn. they even seem normal while bonded. however, they're extreme yanderes that absolutely hate letting their bonded husbands take them off for any length of time and will become murderously violent within hours of separation.
TSF is done to pilots purely for pragmatic reasons: female bodies are smaller, less logistically intensive, and less sensitive to G forces than male ones, so if you want a mission role you need to undergo TSF because we're not made of money you know. And then the rest of the staff also has to for unit cohesion. Soon enough the entire space program is nothing but women and girls. Due to the lopsided "need" for female changes, their tech gets more advanced quicker than the reverse, and it becomes quite easy to alter your physiognomy a decent amount according to your preferences. With this, pilots and astronauts start to test out how petite can they go while remaining capable and stable. A few can manage to pass all tests in roughly pubescent aged bodies, although with some attitude. Others just embrace being cuter or fuller or boyish while remaining eligible. No I don't know where I'm going with this.
>>10769172As someone who heavily enjoys sci-fi fetishism, the problem is basically that you're trying too hard to make it a fetish thing. Justifying a train of logic that leads to something like slow mental feminization is just an elaborate way to poke holes in your own sci-fi concepts by raising the question of why anyone would do it. After all, why female when you could do androgynous, or even worse, deaged? Why is crushing morale by making them wear female uniforms a good idea? At a certain point, it HAS to be because it's someone's in-universe fetish, it's too synthetic to be a practice that arose naturally. The problem with porn logic is that it only works for porn.Now I'm obviously not you, but if I were to hazard an explanation for my own scenario, I'd go with... say:>The process to become an enhanced human relies on poorly understood alien technology- most of it is a black box.>They conceptualized cyborgs as a joining of yin and yang, male and female, machine and organic, thus forming one, more perfected being.>Upon implantation, the transformation begins reshaping the flesh, turning strength formerly provided by their masculine body into machinery, to be split and then rejoined, neurons turning to wires and forming the machine half of the gestalt mind.>Even so, despite the fundamental overhaul that has occurred, the mind that occupies this new hardware still thinks of itself as a man transformed into a woman.Alternatively:>At an early stage in the procedure, self-optimization runs wild without much conscious thought as the process works through the hindbrain and into the frontal lobe- it prompts smaller, more efficient, with discrete places to hide hardware and extended processing mass.>Obesity would be another solution, but this protoform is almost instantly rejected as inefficient and healthy as self-optimization gives way to more directed changes, with it being far too late by this point to regain your male sex.
>>10768083What's the sauce for this?
>>10769282If I were to given a reason as to why it's necessary for pilots to get TSF I would go with making so that the mech needs something only a female body can do, either naturally or something special with the setting.First thing to come to mind was:>Mechs have been around for years now.>Suddenly [Threat unlike any other]>A new experimental mech type is being created, stronger than anything ever built before, (Maybe related to the enemy ?)>Humanity gets their best aces (all men) to be the test pilots.>The catch however is that those mechs needs to be directly connected to the pilots life force on a deep level to function at full power.>The only way to achieve this is to fuse the biomechanical core of the mech on the source of life, AKA the womb.>Now all the aces not only have to undergo full TSF, courtesy of even more experimental tech (maybe of similar origin to the mechs), but they will need to have the mechs core fused to their new wombs, effectively making them permanently pseudo-pregnant.>However in exchange they now have a perfect link to their mechs.>Once inside the mechs will connect with their core and by extension the pilot.>They are able to control them effortless, as if part of their own bodies, and far exceeding any other mech humanity has ever created, and even overpowering [Threat].>The core will also enhance their bodies to be well beyond human capabilities, making their pseudo pregnant state a non-issue physically for the most part.>However the fusion was so successful it tricks their bodies into developing more maternal features, curvier bodies, bigger tits, lactation and etc. Goes so far as to even develop motherly instincts.>Their new skintight pilot suits were made to adapt to those change and help with as many inconveniences as they can, namely lactation and protection along with other functions, so there's a big incentive to keep wearing it even outside the mechs.Bit too hentai but we are on /d/How's that ? Would you ?
>>10769338>How's that ?This doesn't answer the question of why they wouldn't use biological women instead. In fact, if a comparatively worse pilot still has the mech become an extension of their body, that would result in an expansion of the number of top-tier pilots available over upgrading the one ones that are already great. I think you need something explaining why ALL of the pilots of comparable vehicles in service are male before this, too.Anywho, no. The pregnancy thing is a bridge too far for me.
Why is conditioning such a pain to work with? Why are subliminals such a pain to execute satisfyingly?
>>10769338There's a manga with the same pregnant women exclusivity clause for some important cause. I don't remember the name, but you might be able to find it.
>>10769343My idea was that the aces would only be the first batch. They need the best results asap to combat [threat] and couldn't risk it and a limited number can make better scenarios with everyone getting adjusted.Alternatively, you could have the male test pilots being there to see if they could double their effective candidates and not be locked to just women.After being successful they would start mass production and get everyone in.The pseudo pregnancy was the only thing I could think of that would 100% require a female body, but with just enough to counter balance the side effects for it to be viable. The body development was mostly to intensify the TSF with some flavor and with minor mental changes that could potentially escalate or not, outside of that is just cosmetic.Couldn't fit much more on the post because of character limit.
>>10769338Reading this just gave me the inverse idea of the mech's cockpit being effectively a bioengineered womb, in which the pilot is then directly connected to the biomechanical mecha, partially fusing with it, like an unborn child is connected to its mother through the umbilical cord.Pairs of pilots and mechas would be "married" to each other, since the two organisms' gradual adjustment to each other is essential to achieving their maximum possible performance.This fusion and adaptiation process makes the pilot's body slowly adopt features from its biomechanical host as they synch up closer and closer, with the magnitude of the changes directly corresponding with the level of performance a pilot/mecha combination is able to deliver.Due to the mechas needing to have a womb they are all obviously female, and any male pilots will change genders sooner or later in their tour of service. Furthermore, their physical and mental abilities are significantly improved, to allow them to handle g-forces high enough to rip a normal human in twain and improve reaction times as well as overall situational awareness and tactical acumen.Female pilots' changes are far less dramatic, with them only really getting the superhuman abilities side of the deal, which is why in peacetime, when the military can afford to, they exclusively hire female pilots out of humanitarian concerns.Unfortunately (or fortunately, if you prefer to think that way) for you, that peacetime restriction does not apply right now, because the world is under threat from an attacker that can only be defeated by this ultimate weapon, and you have been selected as a male pilot who will be mated with one of these mechas.Whether you were found to have an exceptional compatibility/talent for piloting, or just volunteered to reap the generous benefits offered to members of the program is beyond my knowledge.All I can tell is that your days as a man are numbered as you enroll in the biomecha piloting program.
>>10769353I believe it was called "Wombs" by Shirai Yumiko. I tried reading it but thought it was too trippy for my tastes. It's like they tried to somehow make a serious premise out of something inherently nonsensical.
>>10769070>Yuri EndingAll right. Time to pick this shit back up.>implied that the main female will learn the jutsuI'd prefer he stay a girl forever, but I can tolerate "can I turn you into a boy one last time so you can knock me up"
>>10769386>I'd prefer he stay a girl forever, but I can tolerate "can I turn you into a boy one last time so you can knock me up"Being able to go back and forth Ranma style was always the most kino, especially if its out of that persons control.
>>10769371That sounds about right. I couldn't get into it either. I wish it'd gone more the kikimetal style, where it's obviously indulgent porn but the influences and style give it flavor instead.>>10769364One thing you could do is more that biosuits are grown and bonded to individuals, but they're not subservient: it has to be a two way partnerships- but like with humans, they can develop more or less depending on a multitude of factor, including sex, but what IS true is the integration is so thorough pilots are far more subject to their bodies developping and changing far beyond what a baseline endocrine system would allow. This isn't necessarily resonance: you could have a male mecha and female pilot if that is the configuration that works for them, but regardless, the pilot/suit pairs can't be interfered by drugs or things like that without negative repercussions across the board, and it can be unpredictable.
>>10769282> your own sci-fi concepts by raising the question of why anyone would do itThe other TSF science-fiction idea I had involved wormhole transportation. Faster than light travel was achieved by discovering and expanding very small wormholes naturally distributed throughout the solar system (some theorize these actually exist, but that's besides the point). Many of the wormholes discovered would be safe for human use, but a small number would be considered too "unstable" for anybody to go through safely. Most of the time when a ship goes through an unstable wormhole, only minor problems occur: light switches being on the other side of the habitat, all the food in the ship's cargo bay being replaced with cabbage, a ship's door disappearing. Other cases are far more violent, with the ship violently folding it on itself and exploding as it exits the wormhole, killing everyone.The crew of a exploration ship at the edge of explored space is being pursued by somebody else, and makes a jump through an unstable wormhole out of desperation. One of two things would occur, depending on my fetish interest at the time. Either everyone on the ship becomes female inexplicably or all the crewmembers suffer through a mass bodyswap (similar to what is seen in Press Switch). In any event, the ships has to find and recreate the effect that made them swap forms in the first place, leading to many opportunities to other fetishes to appear or disappear. I've been more partial to the body swap idea as of late due to realizing how much ediger press switch was than Student transfer, in addition to some SapphirePlace story I read that had a similar premise.>The problem with porn logic is that it only works for porn.The sad truth that prevents a lot of longer form porn content from working in my opinion. The longer the story goes on, the more I have to suspend my disbelief. Part of why I find Student Transfer and Press Switch difficult at times.
I like it best when the TG'ed victim is freaking out.
>>10769350If you don't explicitly describe the subliminal messaging or the conditioning, then it's hard to tell it's actually there. You need to do a lot of work to show that the character's actions aren't quite under their control, but they also aren't completely puppeteered. On the other hand, explicitly describing it ruins it because it kills the subtlety.
While we’re on this topic, what are some good GB games? And what would your ideal GB game be like, anons?
>>10769590>>10764602Meant to reply. God, I hate being retarded
>>10769590where is this from anywaysSaucenao give no results back
>>10769515>The sad truth that prevents a lot of longer form porn content from working in my opinion. The longer the story goes on, the more I have to suspend my disbelief.I'm somewhat lucky in that sense that I actually prefer my fetish stories light on fetish. It's far hotter to see a character struggling with her new sex over the course of the story, and in conflict with her new capabilities and desires than it is to see a character simply trapped into the fetish spiral. So it being more convoluted and not as focused on the fetish makes it work better for me.It does, however, mean I probably couldn't make a CYOA that anyone would find hot, as it would primarily be about mechs and spaceships.
>>10769364>We don't normally do this to guys, but you're a chosen one and we need youThis hits a good level of credibility. Maybe throw in something about men weirdly tending to be more compatible despite the obvious issues and you're golden. My fetish makes me want to have the women feminized further as well, but that might be too much.
>>10769611rare good taste, write a good story
>>10769611>I probably couldn't make a CYOA that anyone would find hot, as it would primarily be about mechs and spaceships.Another TSF CYOA would be welcome, I don't know how difficult they are to make but I feel like there a lot of niches to the medium that have not yet been fulfilled. The NEET-ification one was very good.
>>10768949That's not actually against the rule
>>10766765Translation?
Ahem, I am not sure if it is a touch weird or perhaps even indecorous to post about something I wrote here, but, if anyone remembers those old World of Zhor stories, I couldn't stand seeing The Lancer's Tale end where it did. Making a fanfiction sequel for a fetish work that must be almost two decades old now, and that fanfic sequel bordering novel length unfortunately limits the audience, but I thought I did a good job. Perhaps someone here will enjoy it.https://www.fictionmania.tv/stories/readhtmlstory.html?storyID=1695293312524683760
>>10769739I thought I was versed in TG story archeology, but what the hell is World of Zhor? Can you give me a rundown?
>>10769743It's an old TG universe that is mostly medieval, but has a concoction known as Ruk's serum. Ruk's girls are natural slaves in proportion to their dominance as men. A Ruk girl is not necessarily a legal slave until they cross their wrists before a man, and as such most stories turn around that premise of the long, slow crossing of wrists as they submit to their new nature.
