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Love that silicone

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Fake tits and swimsuits is a winning combination.
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Some artists don't even bother trying to make them look natural. I can't wait for yet another generation of girls to grow up on anime that show female characters with round, fake-looking boobs. That's what I call a good role model.
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What size do you prefer for your girls? I am mostly a fan of the 600-900 ccs size, but I know there are people who like them yuge, though that's not really my thing.
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How do you encourage your gf to embrace having big fake titties
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>>9419742
I think anime moght have ruined your perspective lol, the image you sent is at least 1500cc
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>>9419748
You don't. You respect that her body is hers. Implants is a really big life decision and she should only get them if she wants them for herself, not if you want her to get them.
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>>9419736
An entire generation of girls getting their tits done at 22-30 would be amazing.

>>9419742
800ccs is nice because it's the legal limit where I live but I prefer 1000+ on model fap material.

>>9419748
There's a lot of ways but it depends on the girl. The more you think she'd browse /d/ (especially for non-futa) or ERP, the more the probability of her going "If you pay for it" to "Will you get fake boobies?" approaches 100%. Special techniques:
1. Convert to a religion that condemns slut shit, i.e. contraceptives. These almost universally permit breast augmentation. Persuade your gf to get fake titties because it's fun and also the last weird sexual thing you can do without violating religious law since all non-vaginal intercourse is a sin now.
2. Promise to give her a child or a lot of money.
3. A size queen might get bigger tits if you somehow make your cock bigger.
4. Date a virgin/18-20/desperate girl.
5. If she's fat/ever gets fat, get her a Brazilian buttlift first and then say "What about fake tits, too?"
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>>9419742
4000cc-6000cc is the perfect range for me.
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>>9419748
There's a lot of subtle ways, but the most important one is to never push. As with many things in life the solution is to invite, not to force.
First things first, be honest, especially with yourself. You love big fake tits and you think they look great on a girl. Maybe not specifically her (or not yet), but if the subject is breached, be honest.
Second, never push, but always reward good thinking. She says she likes the tits on a girl walking around, say you do too and that it's nice she noticed, then focus all your attention on her.
She gets bitchy, smile and ignore her.
It's like training a dog, but the difference here is that you don't exchange obedience for treats, you exchange enthusiasm (for implants) with attention.
Most women are starved for attention, especially if you are a high value male (or higher than her). This is not-negotiable, btw: you have to be putting something to the table (not necessarily looks/money) if the thought of her modifying her body for you is on the table. Also, a woman getting her tits, nose, butt, dick, whatever done is immediately more attractive and thus she might get bored of you just as easily as you get bored of her if she does not get fake tits (which is something you should never state outright or it becomes a barganing chip).

TL;DR: get money, get value, suggest it might be good for her and reward her everytime she says or does something about it, otherwise ignore her.
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One thing I really like about the anime boob look is how round and fake-looking they are without Japs thinking about them being fake. It shows how implants embody the perfect ideal of how boobs should be: spherical, large, perky and firm.
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>>9420455
This is devious, but absolutely true.

>>9419748
Another way is to get a GF that's interesting in body mods in general and then just slowly push the idea that implants are a fun body mod and that you'll maybe get some dick or balls implants too.
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>>9420471
It's efficient, which is what matters.

Also, I really don't understand this 'trade' idea of having to get body mods if the other partner does. It cheapens the choice, imho and my experience. Girls are more than happy to get bigger boobs if the man is worth it, having anything done only complicates the deal.
I got two girls with implanted tits and did nothing to myself (besides keeping in shape obv).
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I love these ones with them starting young.
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From the wrestling thread. What happens when the women's league forces fighters to upgrade their 'hest guard'.
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Feels like a Chinese knockoff of better done ones, but I'm trying to fill that niche that I love.
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>>9420947
Wholeheartedly approve. Please continue filling that niche.
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>>9419762
I asked how to convince her, fuck off
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>>9420537
Tell us your ways
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>>9421285
How do you get that lighter outline?
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Why don't feminists get titty implants? They want to free the nipple all the time
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>>9421285
No better way for a teenage idol to achieve instant success than getting some humongous silicone tits.
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>>9421915
I am a feminist with 3600cc, lol
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>>9419366
>>9419362
>>9419361
If you want to add texts, get them warped and wrapped to the rounded surface of the implant instead of floating on top as if those texts are Augmented Reality UI overlay.
Give the text some noisy blur and a bit of transparency so it looks as if the text are read through the xray.
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>>9422619
Wo 3600cc is alot, Are you a popular "egirl" on insta? Or do you keep to yourself?

Also how long did it take to get to 3600cc? How many implants?
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>>9422648
>>How many implants?
how many can you have? 10?
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>>9420947
Wankable af. Not as much text but it's hot. Might even be a subniche, so it works. I'll help you out if you want any advice.

>>9422410
Sexy.
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>>9422619
>feminist with 3600cc
You must be very sex-positive! Do you enjoy gangbangs?
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>>9422638
I'll try that on my next pic.
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>>9420947
>child friendly implants

Please continue.
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>>9422067
That's a hella good angle I gotta say

Tracks with how fanartists tend to draw some of the more moderately-sized girls too
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>>9423117
Definitely. How else would a girl like Miki look so big at her age?
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>>9422067
Sounds like the premise for this person's art. Still one of my favorite actually-fake-titty things out there. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/10235037 There's a translation hovering around in one of the previous threads too.
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>>9422619
How often do you use your big titties to convince guys to let you Dom them, only to lock them in chastity and strap-on fuck them until they go gay for a real man's cock
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>>9423182
"Sorry newbie, you don't have nearly enough cc's in you to be a member of 765 Pro, maybe get pumped up a bit more and come back later~"
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>>9424343
Was just thinking about posting the unedited image. Really hot to imagine Panda's curves being the product of implants since she was 10.
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There is no other artist whose style is more suitable for implant edits than RAITA
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even the small ones are so perky and gravity-defying
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>>9424709
Glad someone else agrees. They really do look bolted-on.
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>>9424710
Tiny fake tits are such a pleasure. It's like they're silently pleading for you to buy more plastic for them.
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more itty bitty raita fake titty
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>>9425468
Nice! Did you make this?
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>>9425559
Got it from an /a/ thread. There's an anon who goes around making these edits.
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>>9425569
He does a nice job.
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Why don't more feminists seduce guys into getting pegged and locking them into chastity
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>>9425635
Wrong thread bro
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>>9423079
Sauce please?
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pixiv: starsea
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Do anyone know of any other character who is canonically breast augmented? Outside of Newhalf characters of course, which are already implied.
Reikadou Ayame is truly special on this case.
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Smug implants is god tier, would love some creative captions to this. They already look way beyond fake enough that they don't need edits
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>>9426912
Spider woman from marvel has fake tits, also uh... I can't remember her name, but that mutant in X-Men who crystallizes her skin also has canon implants
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>>9428142
its emma frost
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>>9419364
Do you have the original unedited image or a source for this?

The image is edited heavily enough that reverse image search returns nothing..
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>>9426912
This flashlight-on-boobs can be a new type of implant edits. Especially ideal for original arts set in dimly-lit setting. If the the breasts are situated close to the edges of the image like >>9420397 and>>9429376 ; the flashlights can come from out of the frame without needing to edit anything holding the flashlights.
On its own it seems quite simple, but more advanced edits would need to take account of breasts veins and the illuminative effects it'll have on the other surfaces, especially the on reflective surfaces such as glasses and eyes
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https://www.literotica.com/s/batgirl-enhanced-ch-01

Here's a story about Barbara Gordon (Batgirl) getting her tits done, and the consequences of that. Very hot stuff, though the boobs are not overly large.
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>>9429543
This invention is such a cool oddity for my implant fetish.
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>>9424343
More like this?
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>>9429543
They should make implants with lights and vibrators built into them. Naomi Wu is an asian tech YouTuber with huge implants and she made a corset that made her tits glow. She went into public with it and all
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>>9424343
imagine dating her from middle to high school
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>>9431369
Imagine being the teacher she's blackmailing to fund her titty surgeries.
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>>9431589
I need more like this
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>>9431159
Naomi is dream waifu
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>>9419791
>>9419748
Do you even need to convince her? Find a chick into this shit. I'm a girl and I would love it if a sugar daddy bought me gargantuan fake tits, induced lactation, and knocked me up. I'd wanna have tits so huge everyone who saw me knew I was thirsty for old man spunk and smegma.
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Can those with a pedophilia fetish please make their own thread?
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>>9432201
Well you'll definitely get some replies to this on here.
Also add me on kik, cause I might be able to supply the goods soonish: @phlaming
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>>9432201
I began masturbating when I saw this post.

>>9432233
I like those implants but I enjoy them for the promiscuity elements.
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>>9432233
It's a specific type of the general implants fetish, and it's not like this thread is crowded
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>>9432201
Yeah, I'm with her on this. Already had one surgery and I'm looking to go bigger someday in the near future, 345cc's of silicone is just thinking a little too small for my tastes.
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>>9432517
I'm surprised with the amount of anons on here with implants, but that's great. What size do you want to go too? Larger than 1000ccs?

Also anyone on here into other implants besides breasts or butt?
As a male anon I'm definitely getting testicle/dick implants at some point.
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>>9432631
Haven't decided yet, I just know that when I get the money saved up I wanna go bigger, but as a former flatty I have to go up incrementally, so hitting over 1000ccs is gonna take a lot of surgeries.
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>>9432713
former flatties /definitely/ have the best fake tits because they’re all implant.
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>>9432865
Especially since us former flatties who get implants tend to have this absolute boobie greed where we just need to be bigger no matter how big we are. I'm a 34D cup and I still get huge breast envy when I see a lady with bigger tits than me.
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>>9432631
>As a male anon I'm definitely getting testicle/dick implants at some point.
Based. How long/thick can you get like that?

>>9433294
Boobie greed is incredible. I'd love to see you with H cups.
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First time trying one of these edits, based on >>9425788
Not quite happy with how the text looks. Might try more tomorrow.
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>>9433428
Here's a version without text
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>>9433454
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>>9433408
Well for dick related implants, there's one called Penuma. Which apparently can add 2inches in girth and length. So I'd be going for a 9in length and probably a 6.5ish girth. There's also another surgery that could increase the length by cutting the ligament too, but idk if I'd also get that. Money wise I'm looking to do this in about 1.5 years.

As for the balls, I'd like to get an implant so they're at least the size of a orange.

Also there's a surgery that can make your dick hard with an internal pump, and even tho I don't need it, the idea of getting it is fascinating.
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>>9433408
H cup sounds like a decent goal. I started wanting DDs but I'm thinking F cup minimum which would be probaby at minimum 500ccs for me but I'm bad at estimates.
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>>9433570
It all depends on your height/band ratio. For some people 500ccs is decent, but for most its not enough to make "large" breasts. 800ccs is usually the standard for larger breasts.

But having D cups or kind of large breasts in the first place and then getting large implants is the best scenario in the world. Tits like Ava Addams, which are part real and fake look amazing.
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>>9433475
I've heard of that. Sounds pretty nice, not sure about the health risk since it isn't exactly FDA approved yet.
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Tried one more on the megumin from another thread
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>>9433645
Penuma is fully approved, but the hardest part about it is that it takes like 2-3 surgeries before you can get +2 inches in length. Girth is easier and can be done almost instantly after the first surgery.

I just wish it was as easy to get a cartoonishly large dick as it was fake tits.
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>>9419762
Youre a fucking faggot.

He said "encourage" for a reason.

I hope you die.
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>>9422638
>>9422930

The AR look is honestly okay but you'd need to commit to it. Add a little menu border around the text and make it look like it's actually on the screen.

The BLACKED guys use this tutorial for their tattoo edits. You could probably use it too:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621566691700244501/624081127036157963/ta2torial.png
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>>9431888
Love these. Decided to make one myself.
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>>9432201
Buy the implants yourself you financial parasite
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>>9433782
Really? I thought it was in some kind of experimental phase in California just a few years ago. Nice.
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>>9433868
Nice
Good to see others like the same idea
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I wonder when it will be possible to just add extra fake tits like this.
>tfw waiting for a cyberpunk fake multi-tit girl
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>>9431589
>>9431888
How do I find more fake tits lolis? Or are these OC?
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>>9433953
>look it up
>you have to get snipped if you aren't already

Fug.
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>>9434159
I made them.
I'm a bit iffy about doing more for now, because I made them for others, but some don't like that sort of stuff. I'd feel a little bad filling the thread with them considering that.
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>>9434206
Well, I hope more will appear eventually. They're great
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>>9433570
That sounds about right. If your natural size was 34A, then 500ccs would make you a 32F assuming you dropped a band size along the way. The amount of ccs you need for each size goes up as you get bigger tits though, so it should take more than 1000ccs to reach 32H.

>>9433868
I like seeing more people put text on the implants. Thanks!
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>>9434722
I'm not really fan of interracial on this, but I agree, the writings make it so much better
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Some of you talk about starting early, now how about starting late?
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>>9435131
never to late for enhancement.
that's a unique flavor, i like it!
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>>9433797
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She got "UMPgrades"
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Tried too hard with this one
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>>9435993
upgrade!
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>>9435990
subtle
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no, no problem at all...
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>>9436089
Any more like these?
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>>9436088
>>9436089
These remind me of a story I read years ago where a flat-chested girl stuffed two actual bowling balls under her shirt, did some "reality altering" magic, and then the bowling balls became actual boob flesh, retaining their bowling-ball size and weight (at which point she then used more magic to strengthen her back, because bowling balls are heavy yo)
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Any pics that actually show implants instead of edits or girls with canon implants?
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>>9434922
Definitely!

>>9433803
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Here's a test WIP for a different type of look with the slut implants X-ray. Didn't come out too good IMO but I'll probably try redoing it tomorrow.
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>>9428140
This, please
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>>9436878
Would you make some edits with dickgirls or not your cup of tea?
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>>9437533
I'm a different anon (i did >>9433680 and >>9433428 ) but I can give it a go if you'd like
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>>9437553
Thanks mate!
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>>9437559
Any specific text or pic you want? I'm not great at coming up with the text
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>>9437561
How about this one? As for text, probably something like other edits in this thread
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>>9437580
How's this? I went pretty basic on the text but I can easily add more or change it if you want
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>>9437647
It's great, thanks! How do you make those edits?
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>>9437678
I am very new to this so there's probably better ways to go about it and I'm not the best at explaining things but I'll try to go over how I do them. (any other anons feel free to give suggestions on what I could change)
first select the area you want to x-ray and invert it. in the case of the korra one I made it black and white too just because I think it looked better in that case.
Then I draw the shape of the implant and shade it. Pic related is an idea of how they look after shading but I recommend experimenting with it. After that I tend to put them at between 60% and 80% opacity, depending on what looks good.
Then add any text or images and warp them to fit the surface (this video helps but you'll need to do more messing around because of the weird shape https://youtu.be/B0oqxV_lvf4 )
Lastly I select any clothing in the x-ray area from the base layer and put it at the top layer at a low opacity to make it look like the implants are behind the clothes.
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>>9437758
Thanks for explanation. I'll maybe try doing some myself
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>>9437533
Not into them no
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Is there a kind anon who could edit this one?
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>>9437929

my attempt, lmk wat u think
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>>9436673
These are not edits >>9429543 >>9435131 >>9426912
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>>9437962
Quite good but implants kinda blend with the body
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>>9437962
Its great. the blending make it seems its due to the imaging process
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>>9437647
Not OR, but God damn that's hot. I love the thought of Vitalis' dickgirls as fake-titted jailbait. I'd love it if you could edit this image as well.
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>>9438507
oh jeez i didnt edit out the straps from her bikini
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Happy holidays implant lovers
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She was embarrassed at first.
"A succubus with implants?"
"What will they think of the scars?"
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>>9438566
With all the attention it didn't take long for her to size up again and embrace her new plastic tits
She had become quite the "hot" commodity
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>>9438438
Sure, I can get to it later. Any specific text you want?
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>>9438989
Maybe some text revealing she's actually a young teen, and a message from the sugar daddy (or actual daddy) who bought them for her.
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>>9439017
Done, what do you think?
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>>9439256
Really hot. Thanks!
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Just make her implants as whorish as possible
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>>9435560
>>9439556
Cute whores with fake tits
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A girl with implants I haven't seen posted here often: Chloe Swanson
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>>9439839
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How come all of Japan doesn't get implants given how many big titty anime girls there are
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>>9439890
Peer pressure is the most likely answer to all "why japanese doesn't do x" questions.
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>>9439839
>>9439871
sauce since reverse image search brings up nothing?
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>>9439890
they do get implants, but its a lot less common, mainly because Japan has a more homogenous culture where its weird to stand out. Now other asian coutries like Vietnam and Thailand its alot more common.

I wonder what country has the highest number of implants per capita. Is it the US?
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>>9439957
its a character made by this artist
https://twitter.com/CherryMouseST

https://twitter.com/TheChloeSwanson
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>>9433294
i can confirm this too, i used to be flat until i got implants and i still get annoyed when i see girls with bigger boobs than me.
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>>9439309
Bumping for that
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>>9433475
I always wondered if you could have both procedures done, and if you could push your size beyond what they advertise. I hope they push this tech a lot, I want there to be the option to enhance your dick to the same extent breast implants go.
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>>9440244
how big would you like to go eventually?
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>>9439839
With how popular all the scar edits are in these threads, I'm genuinely surprised this pic hasn't been posted yet.
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>>9441040
no idea, probably at least one more cup size up. sadly for now i have to wait because the doctor said my chest has to adjust, and that i got basically the biggest implants my skin would have allowed.
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Where do ass scars go for butt implants?
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>>9441244
Oh nice, and yeah most people have to wait for their implants to settle for about a year before they upgrade. How many cc's do you have now? If you came from being completely flat I'm going to guess 450cc's
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>>9441250
Between the buttcheeks, very well hidden
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>>9437962
Very obvious ass Implants missing here
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>>9441456
nah, i’ve got 375cc of silicone. i tried to go bigger but doc said it literally wouldn’t fit, and i wasn’t completely flat, but i was damn close.
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>>9441084
I love how it says her bra size is 30H when she has like V cups at least, lmao
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>>9434722
>>9433868
>>9431888
>>9431589
debased and hot
>imagine
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>>9442310
scar edit?
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Last thread had a few attempts at botched boobjob edits, where boob sizes were different or nipple placement was asymmetrical. Think we could get some more this thread?
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>>9443105
fresh off the presses
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>>9443105
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I love ruined fake tits so I made this edit
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>>9443563
Not really my thing, but I fucking love April no matter what. What does the QR code say?
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>>9443584
Oh it's a link to this thread, I wanted a code on there so I just grabbed that.
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Another April edit
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Mangrowing has some nice implants stuff
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>>9443563
Fuuuuuuuuuck that one's good
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>>9443425
very nice
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>>9443563
The artstyle isn't my cup of tea, but this tattoo edit is excellent. This info-dense external tattoo is much better than lazy low-skill looking Augmented Reality UI text edits
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>>9444679
eh, I get why the tit info is hard to add, and the idea of them gets me off more than the execution.
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>>9443766
i like your edit. nice
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pretty sure shes got cannon bolt ons.
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>>9444928
voila
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>>9443766
No
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>>9445497
you should add the current size and grade boundries/requirements for each size
also 200cc seems small for what she has there

I like the idea of women being rewarded by society with fake tits
What would the men get?
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>>9445560
Ah I was trying to show that they got overfilled way beyond what they were designed for.

I'd say that men either get dick implants or something like that, or they get girls, or they get to decide what size of implant any girl will get. If I got to decide someone's implant size they would have a hard time doing normal tasks.
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>>9445580
you should make them look overfilled then
add a note on it saying "last filling: 2000cc"
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>>9445750 I did some tweaks
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>>9445786
fantastic
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>>9443563
Ruined fake tits are top tier. I'd love to see more, with visible scars and more veins, but maybe the nipple displacement was a tad overkill here, lol
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>>9445786
Would love for them to burst and ruin her ego
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>>9444919
Who?
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I've had this idea about a society where women are rewarded with ridiculously huge implants for a while. If they misbehave, they get punished by taking out the huge implant and replacing it with a regular (still huge to irl standards) one. Then they would be left with tits that sag to their hips, with a bowlingball sized silicone sphere weighing them down in them.
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>>9445865
Catfights in schools near cosmetic surgery clinics are brutal. Definitely separates the poor girls from the rich.
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>>9446214
The smart girl with the yogaball sized implants gets bullied the most.
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>>9439309
Can anyone x-ray that?
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>>9446619
No
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>>9446488
Boys with implants are hot as hell.
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>>9446612
Unpopular girl goes way too far with implants in a desperate bid to get popular, only to get bullied and outed as a plastic flattie is pretty great an angle. I also like the 'popular girls try to one-up each other until they ruin themselves' thing too. But, fake tit bullying in general is stupid hot.
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>>9446872
I like the rewards idea, the smart unpopular girls getting the huge implants, even if they don't want to, and the popular girls try to get their parents to buy bigger tits. Because the implant rewards are government subsidized they can't get as huge as the smart ones without spending insane amounts of money.
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>>9446872
Does anyone have that really good implant edit of that character?
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>>9446998
This one? One of my favorites as well. Wish there were more edits with this scenario.
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>>9447042
That's some fine squishing.
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>>9447042
Extremely good squish, might add text later
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>>9446872
nerd girls getting massive implants is my fetish. The juxtaposition of demure homely girl getting gigantic oversexualized tits is so hot
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>>9446797
Boys with implants are my fetish ehehe
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>>9445496
>>9445497
>>9445786
Love the injection site, these edits need more of that. Might try something later
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>>9447031
Yeah my fav after the power girl one. Oh and that one god tier edit with the measuring tape. Do you have the original dor that one too?
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>>9447944
Same. I love these captions.
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>>9448287
I prefer more wholesome ones, but to each their own
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>>9448287
It would be nice to see a follow up where they start embracing their new body/life with a pic of them wearing a skimpy outfit.
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>>9448500
Me too. I posted that one because it's got an explicit mention of silicone.
>>9448510
Something like that could be pretty fun. Boys getting implants by their own volition is great.
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>>9448515
>>9448287
Do these type of captions have a tag on the joi boorus?
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>>9448541
You can find them in a Mega gallery in /d/'s Shemale thread.
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>>9448543
some good stuff, nice if some had newhalf images with them
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>>9446797
>>9447944
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>>9448543
That's some good stuff, thanks anon
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I don't... HATE the newhalf stuff but for real, the actual woman to newhalf ratio in this thread is awful
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>>9449641
Be the change you want to see in the thread.
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>>9449792
>>9449641

hold my beer
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I'm flat and thinking about implants, any advice?
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>>9450319
Go as big and fake as you can
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>>9450557
I'm being serious!
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>>9450610
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Size and shape are up to personal taste, there are some serious big fake tits out there and they don't seem to regret them.
For medical advise, you better contact a professional. I'm pretty sure that for these procedures you should avoid the budget options.
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>>9450683
yeah but will men assume I'm insecure or slutty if I have them? and is flat but natural better than fake but something?
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>>9450690
Big fake implants are a great way to show off how much of a thirsty slut you are, that's why I'd get them if I could afford it
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>>9445560
fake tits
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>>9450690
In what I've seen, most men don't care is tits are fake or real, there's a vocal minority who say there's a difference but most really don't care, they just like tits. And from what I've encountered, some girls that are flat get small implants (150-400cc's) to have "natural" looking tits, but they're usually only gonna be C or D cups max. Then there are flat girls that get implants as large as they can or the doctor will allow them and those usually end up being 400-500ccs. If you want to go bigger you'll usually need a second surgery after your body has made room for the first implants. Good luck either way :)
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>>9446797
These threads devolved so hard. Bless those who still make good edits, I commend you.
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>>9450690
I would even assume you are super confident.
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I was thinking about worldbuilding a modern or sci-fi somewhat matriarchal setting where entire societal order is decided by woman's breast size and implants are commonplace. I'm looking for ideas or inspirations. Got any interesting takes on the concept?
Also what would you think about a fantasy setting that still features implants through some magic?
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>>9450690
Body mods are fun and sexy and attractive (to me at least). If you want bigger tits get bigger tits. I'm sure you'll have as much fun with them as anyone you'd share them with. Especially if you were "flat" before
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>>9451400
They should be easy to get, Feeling like getting bigger tits today? Just go to the supermarket and get them installed right there. Lower class would have ~2000cc, middle class ~6000cc, and the richest would be absurdly huge, no limits on what the body can handle in this universe. Car sized fake tits and beyond. Maybe there are resorts for the most powerfull people, wide doors and carts to move their tits with, an entire cleaning team to wash them.
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>>9450690
“is flat but natural better than fake with something”


(/d/ implant fetish aside) If you’re going to augment your body, you should have a clear, personal answer to this question, and you should pursue it because YOU want to, otherwise you probably won’t be happy
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