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Retarded and Autistic Girls...
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>>9642946
You’re topic might be a bit too rare with not a whole lot of pics.

But damn if I would like to find sone of those out of sheer morbid curiosity
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Does glitched count?
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>>9642975
>You’re topic
Go back to school, retard.
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>>9643276
>retard
Appropriate to the thread, isn't it?
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>>9642946
this image I am attracted to. post more big boss
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>>9642975
The secret is that literally any pic of Rei will fit the criteria.
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>>9643308
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>>9643309
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>>9643312
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I know this is more brain drain/regression, but it's still pretty similar, and probably a bit easier to find.
I do like this fetish too, but yeah it's rare.
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>>9643877
Regressing to childlike intellect while carrying a child to term strikes me as some pretty potent psychological horror.
Not to mention that baby is fucked once it comes out. Unless it absorbed her intelligence, in which case it's gonna be a lot of responsibility to care for their retarded adult mother as a newborn.
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>>9642946
Hell yeah, I love retarded girls.
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>>9644457
That's literally what happened to pic related, though it was due to brain damage in the show. Her son did end up a trap though. >>9644652
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One of my biggest fantasies, but we're not likely to find much material.
Adjacent to this and also exciting are unnecessarily lobotomized girls.
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>>9642946
Wait what about her is retarded?
*Sees spinner earrings*
Ooooh ok
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>be autismo
>no autismo gf
On one end i’m glad but I wouldn’t mind having someone as autistic as me
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I fail to see how the current images are distinct from ahegao
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>>9643877
I saw this image last night and it's been on my mind ever since. I've seen plenty of fucked up shit in my time but this image really bothers me. At first it's cute because she becomes childlike, but then she has to actually give birth.

How do you explain to a child what that process will be like, the pain they will go through? That it will be over eventually. The amount of care this character will need during that time. I don't know why, but the entire thing really disturbs me on a level that simple gore and creepypasta don't. It's not about fear or revulsion, but pure pity and sadness. Sorry, I didn't think this would be a good topic to discuss with anyone I know in reality.
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>>9642946
Elfen Lied without the gore and violence would be such a good hentai.
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Not retarded, aspergers and on the spectrum.
You boys are in for a wild ride
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>>9646420
I might be autism too.
https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/zo920808/chapter_1
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>>9645362
Somewhat related but my uncle had his wife suffer a sort of stroke and her brain suffered from partial necrosis. Basically reverted to a childlike state and my cousin who was like 6 or 7 at the time this happened has had to take care of her ever since along with my uncle. Can't go to the bathroom on her own and all that, it's really heartbreaking and horrifying to think about it happening to anyone else.
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Imagine being a retarded girl, but you can't get a bf because he'd be considered a predator for liking you
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>>9646456
Emptyhero had a video talking about his time in the service. Apparently once he was at a sort of charity/volunteer event for the retarded. There was an absolutely beautiful couple there, married, but both were brain damaged. They had been in a car accident and submerged for long enough that the oxygen deprivation damaged them but didn't kill them. He said they seemed happy together, but still, the idea of otherwise capable adults being damaged in such ways is sad. I suppose it's the same sort of despairing sadness as Flowers for Algernon.
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>>9646476

Bimbos exist tho
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>>9645314
I'm in the same situation and work with autistics who lack independence. The low functioning ones are effectively retarded and the high functioning don't have the self awareness or discipline to stop being children and deal with the disorder.

Can't relate to normies and most autistics act like children.
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>>9646423
Thxs
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>>9643877
People debating the moral implications of this shit like, get the fuck out the way I'm bout to get this nut
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This is my jam, I knew my home board wouldn't fail me. When I'm at my laptop I'll dump what I have.
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>>9648204
>you can look up abdl
I hate to admit, but as a diaperfag... Yes, there's plenty of that, both in community and in art.
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>>9648980
sauce?
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>>9649060
Messy Academy
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>>9646420
>>9646423
This went from cutesy autismo story to hitting waaaaay too hard home
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>>9646420
>>9646423
thanks anon, what a find
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>>9646420
>>9646423
Thanks, but after reading this and comparing to my experiences I'm starting to think that my gf has autism too. I don't even know what to do with this revelation...
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>>9646420
>>9646423
I started reading this last night and I like it a lot. Never read a manga with a character with actual factual diagnosed tismo. It's very sweet but hard to get through, not that it's a problem.

>>9649780
Yeah, my ex gf acts a lot like sperg. I used to call her autistic as a joke when we were goofing around but there's an eerie amount of comparisons here.
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>>9646423
Started last night, finished this morning, amazing story, reminds me in a lot of ways of "A Silent Voice", got any more similar to it?
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>>9646423
>>9646420
Alright, where are the raw scans? Translation was dumped around chapter 42 and there's 123 chapters (12 volumes) and I can't find it anywhere. I just want to see what happened. I can't even find the Chinese translation.
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>>9643877
I fucking hate this
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>>9647955
Fuck you
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>>9642946
kek you mean /cgl/ but actually pretty?
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>>9649995
More like /cgl/ but with actual girls instead of 25+ year old women and traps that long since aged out of the look and just look like DDLG fetishists instead.
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>>9642946
so like normal woman thread?
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>>9649998
I just got back from a short trip there. Gosh are they retarded. They are the real deal. Should we ask them to post tits here?
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>>9647955
Came here looking for this
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Oh no, don't die.
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>>9646420
>>9646423
Fuck, it hurts to read this because it's me, yet I still want a girl like that. I really should just kill myself and take the gamble on reincarnation, I guess.
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up
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Just call this /akko general/
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not one helmet.
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>>9647955
Source?
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>>9646420
Wow, great read. Came to this thread for laughs but such a treat instead.
Fuck me though it was really hard to empathize with MC after he admitted his perversions, like maaan cmon even a retard would bounce after hearing that
Can’t wait for the shinu stomp in the anime adaptation
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>>9653003
>2 I N T
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Gotta love a girl who may have decent intelligence, but has wisdom and charisma as dump stats.
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>My Neighbor Rina
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>>9648197
FUCKING REDPILLED LOL
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>>9654125
Rina's actually a Machiavellian succubus with a genius-level IQ.
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>>9645314
>>9646765

It really sucks (in the same boat btw). Less than five percent of all people with high-functioning autism will ever find a bf/gf, and I think only 10% will ever even go on a date once in their life despite wanting human companionship as much as the rest of us, for the simple reason that people don't want a crippled, low-quality mate. It's one thing to think you'll be forever alone but for actual math to back it up is depressing. Some research group recently published a study and they think that over half of all self-identified "incels" are actually autists or undiagnosed autists, and they've misidentified the problem to become rampant misogynists.

It's even worse because most of the autists who do find an other are women, because guys generally have low standards and are willing to write off quirks as being a ditz. So if you're a guy with autism you're fuuuuucked. Sigh, it's why I'm here.
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>>9653097
Berserk
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>>9646420
>>9646423
I'm really glad I found this, thank you. It's sweet and cute, until it starts hitting a little too close to home. Pretty sure I'm high-functioning autistic, some degree of Aspergers probably. More like Yokoi than Saitou, though.
>tfw no qt sperg gf to fart in a bag for you
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>>9656413
Now see rakes
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>>9646616
Personally, I feel pride has something to do with it.
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>>9655259
Sexuality and romance for the disabled is an interesting and often ignored topic. They're still people after all.
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I'm glad some people find people like my sexy
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>>9654125
My Neighbor Rina deserves so many spin offs...
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>>9642946
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>>9656457
Artist?
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>>9656450
Lemme see them tits, retard >:3
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>>9646420
well I tried to read it since many other anons but I dont think I am able to continue doing so, the girl is completely unsympathetic and should kill herself.
Was fine until the kicking and bathouse, If someone ever touched my dog or any member of my family like she did I would unironically kill them, I dont even give a shit if they pull me a "im mentally insane pls andastand" card, so long you are a danger you should be taken out, hopefully by your own self. Cant treat people with kids glove for being a ticking bomb.
Maybe if this was more about social anxiety I would relate more, but that is a different issue
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>>9656624
Read the title again.
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yall wanna fuck autistic women so bad yet have absolutely no personality or any kind of depth except for shameless hentai addictions yikes
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>>9656858
>shameless hentai addictions
But that turns me on.
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>>9656563
Looks like Tekuho, who apparently goes by tekuho no habo right now.

>>9656455
Left girl's shirt is great.
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>>9646420
People with Aspergers are a danger to society. They must be treated and be medicated, for life.
They are pretty tame if guided though, like puppies. They are quite intelligent, but when it comes to common sense they are stupid as fuck.
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>>9642946
this thread is far more depressing than I expected
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>>9656858
I just want friends...
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>>9656624
I'm on the spectrum and I wanted to throttle them when I saw that. Indeed, given that a lot of autistics tend to prefer the company of animals and pets over people I wonder how many other people on the spectrum thought the same.

To be honest the whole thing kind of reads like torture porn for people on the spectrum. Both leads seem completely miserable due to their condition and even after they meet up they seem to be barely scraping by.

>>9656939
Dude, go fuck yourself. About half the problems with autism are the result of a lack of socialization rather than anything inherent. As early as age five autistic children are already ostracized by their peers due to things as subtle as word choice and the way they walk setting off their uncanny valley like a blank from 40k, which causes them to lag behind in social skills and create a feedback loop. I won't lie and say that there are no social problems associated with autism, but it's possible for them to catch up if they can get over that initial hump. That's why middle-aged+ individuals with autism are often hard to spot. The problem is medical science still doesn't know what makes autists tick or how to treat them (there really is no medication to treat autism).

But hey, if you want to casually dehumanize someone and reduce them to the level of animals, go back to /pol/. I'm sure they'd love you there.
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>>9642946
I used to be fwb with a girl who had Asperger's, she had a thing for pretending to be asleep and letting me do whatever I wanted with her.

Somehow she could do it for hours, without needing to even scratch herself or twitch or anything, it was like she would put herself into a trance while I fucked the shit oot of her. She would only 'wake up" after I gave her permission.
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>>9656413
lmao these are gold
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>>9656939
>>9657400
I too am on the spectrum and went to a special training facility to be taught social skills I lacked at an early age. Training unlike chemical treatments, is unlikely to have side effects and doesn't have to be expensive.
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>>9656410
>>9656411
>>9656413
>>9656416
These really don't hold up on second viewing, and to think this image set is what awakened this kink for me.
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>>9656858

i dunno man downsie girls give mad aftersex cuddles
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>>9657400
You are on 4chan, why do you expect anything else than people reveling in the misery of others to fuel their impotent power fantasies?
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>>9646677
bimbos are trophy slut material, their only purpose is fucking and being overly girl, and they can never be taken seriously
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>>9657208
It always is
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>>9655259
You got that study on hand?
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>>9646420
Just finished chapter 42 and now I feel like shit
Thanks ^^
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>>9646420
Good read, tnx

>>9649908
Shit
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>>9656939
"and we were like, 'we know, but, hey!"
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>>9656939
im aspie and i am probably smart than you.
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>>9659301
www.spectrumnews.org/news/jobs-relationships-elude-adults-autism/amp
https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/radical-online-communities-and-their-toxic-allure-for-autistic-men/

Links to the original studies in the articles. The Canadian Redpath center put out a similar study but I couldn't track it down.
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>>9647955
kek
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>>9642946
>Autistic Girls

Can autistic people consent to anything legally?
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>>9656624
>not the heckin drawing of a pupperino omg im shaking in anger
Thank you for your opinion.
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>>9655259
>tfw male sperg that just went through a breakup with someone dear to me
>this is probably the last thing I ever wanted to read today
I can ultimately handle and believe the mathematical truth you present here like an adult, but it still feels like a violent punch to my gut. Anyone who says "it's better to have loved and lost than not loved at all" is so full of shit, I feel worse right now than I did when I was an incel who didn't know what a loving relationship was like yet and only had *ideas* of what it was like; I got a taste of what being cared about by someone was like and I was probably the one to fuck it all up because of how socially retarded I am. It wasn't even about sex for me, that was just a bonus. I'd become a fucking eunuch if it meant just simply having her and by extension my emotional stability and lack of loneliness back.
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>>9662274
I've been to local sperg meetups and most of them just don't acknowledge the disorder. Either narcissists who refuse to improve or adult-children who don't understand their situation.

There needs to be real guidance for them and not the neuro-diversity bullshit. But there will probably never be a program to discipline them young or old.
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Drawn together fucked me up. The episode with bleh created the desire to fuck an absolute brain dead tard but one thats super fucking hot. I know it's never gonna happen and I identify that its more of a power fantasy than anything but still
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>>9662365
For me it was Mayuri from Steins;Gate. Okabe's narration in the VN explicitly states that she's "'special,' in more ways than one." Throughout the course of the story she does things like question why a banana's mind can't be mapped (to which the rest of the cast has to explain that bananas don't have brains, only for her to loop back to the same question again), talking in third person, trying to literally reach up to the stars, etc. She's also shown to have pretty strong intuition, is well-kempt/dressed, and is surprisingly athletic for someone who shovels frozen chicken nuggets down her throat by the truckload. It's actually a balanced and semi-realistic, positive take on a retarded character, which was perhaps why I found her endearing.

There was also Marcy from Travelers, but that wasn't animated, so we can't talk about that here.
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>>9659937
depends on their level of disability
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>>9662471
Wait, so there are people who will never in their lifetime legally be allowed to bone? That would be an unfortunate existence.
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>>9662351
The trick is the spergs who don't act like that don't go to those kinds of meetings. I was forced to attend some as a teenager and I hated it and left at the first opportunity.

There does need to be better help for autists, but straight discipline may not be the answer. I got disciplined a lot as a kid for things that if someone just explained to me I would have stopped, and the punishment just made me resentful. Not to mention the number of times I got punished because someone else did something and tried to claim that I did it and and no one believed me when I said it wasn't me because my word was "lesser".

The problem is no one cares about autists. Not even the SJW crowd, who conveniently leave autism out when talking about marginalized groups based on race, sex, sexuality, and other factors. Trans people are actually higher in their eyes than we are, despite us making up about 2% of the population.
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>>9662456
For me it was Stool Shadow from The Boys.
I don't know if it's a power fantasy so much as just endearing to me.
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>>9662365
havnt seen this pic in a while
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>>9656624
Thanks for the early warning, fren. Definitely going to miss this one.
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>>9662351
>"local sperg meetups"
that genuinely sounds like something I'd have no desire to go to. Maybe it's just my personal biases from years of seeing awful people on twitter use their illnesses as excuses to be insufferable pedantic crybullies, but that seems like the kind of thing self diagnosed tumblr and twitter "spergs" would go to, the kind who wear their mental illnesses in their bio on twitter and tumblr like a badge of honor or something to be proud of, not people who are actually suffering from this condition and wish to not suffer this like I am. I don't want to use my spergery as an excuse to be an asshole, I just want genuine human connection but I'm terrible at it.
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>>9656416
>sunset shim
rip
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>>9662474
Depends I guess. If they're childlike and don't understand anything fucking them would be pretty immoral regardless. On the other hand some autismos can live on their own, pay bills etc.
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>>9659937
Extreme cases like CWC, where the person in question is so developmentally disabled that they require a caregiver for most of their lives, are just that - extreme cases. On the other end of the spectrum you have the Bill Gateses, Anthony Hopkinses, Michael Burrys, and Albert Einsteins of the world. And then most others fall somewhere in-between.
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>>9659937
Is that a serious question?
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Not porn, but there's a Japanese cosplayer by the name of Akagi Kuro who was diagnosed with Aspergers as a kid. She drew a short manga explaining her experiences (which I can't link because mangadex is down) called "Aspe-chan".

>>9662605
What frustrates me are the "I'm autistic and proud of it" types. I understand that there's an urge to be contrarian when organisations like Autism Speaks are out there talking about 'curing' autism and churches advocating for praying it away, as if it's something that can be cured, but autism spectrum disorders (if you don't get a diagnosis and quality intervention before school age) fucks you up real good.
eg. I'm a 30 year old virgin with no friends working a casual job with nothing in savings and 30k in student debt, and the fact I have any hope for my future speaks volumes of how far I've come and how absolutely fucking trash my life was in my teens and 20s due to this god damn condition and seemingly no one- not my schools, not my parents, noticing it.
If you could legitimately "cure" autism, that is a pill I would take immediately. Over a decade of my life and thousands of dollars had to be spent before I realised there was a problem, what the extent of that problem is, and to start getting appointments with the specialists that could help. The diagnosis appointment alone took 12 months (justifiable because I'd rather those resources go to the aforementioned preschool kids who can strongly benefit from timely intervention, but still intensely frustrating).

Sorry to whinge but this shit gets my goat: autism probably causes greater reduction in disability-adjusted life years than a ton of conditions, but children and adults that are functional-but-impaired by autism are totally invisible; there's no funding, no one gives a shit, and because we're "weird" it's on some level okay. Fucking job interviews in particular, I swear to god, they're like a Voight-Kampff test designed to specifically discriminate against autistics.
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>>9663942
Man, pretty much everything about this post, yes. I too had to go through years of getting my brain scanned, meeting with specialists, having doctors fucking flown in to meet me, just to get a diagnosis - this was back in the days when diagnoses for Asperger's had much stricter requirements than they do today. And now - at risk of sounding like a boomer - you have every 20-something blue hair whose mothers latched onto Asperger's as an excuse for their bad behavior going around proclaiming that they're "neuroatypical," like it's some kind of club to join.

What feels really bad is that when I was young, no one knew anything about the disorder, much less understood it, so people would say that I was just being weird and making excuses for my bad behavior, same as those blue hairs do now. In truth, I spent my entire childhood going through cognitive therapy to train me to be only somewhat peculiar as opposed to completely alien and bizarre, and if I could have been normal I would have. You know what it's like to try flirting as someone who can't read social cues and only views the people and the world around you through the lens of data? What it's like to try to learn everything you can about someone so you can try to strike up a relevant conversation about some of their topics of interest, only for them to cuss you out for cyberstalking them, tell you to never talk to them again, and sic Captain Saveaho on you? It's heartbreaking, and you go through that sort of pain over and over until you just stop trying.

And now that I'm older, being autistic is a meme, everybody and their neighbor's dog-walker is an aspie, at least, allegedly. So now people still don't take the condition seriously, because of just how many people have ruined it with false or flimsy diagnoses, coupled with this "badge of honor" shit.

Man, this is a weird thread for /d/.
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ahh yes, /d/ humor thread
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This girl has the 'tism. And she gets my jism.

>>9663942
>If you could legitimately "cure" autism, that is a pill I would take immediately.
I sometimes wonder how many limbs I would give up for that pill.
>Fucking job interviews in particular, I swear to god, they're like a Voight-Kampff test designed to specifically discriminate against autistics.
For me, it's restaurants. 25 years in, and I still don't know the magic ritual. Gonna have to find something else to do on dates. >implying, of course.
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>>9662351
Youre talking about anime cons?I doubt nost truly autistic people would go to meetups like that unless forced by their guardians
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The thing with autism is that it interferes with sensory processing.
eg. Your brain filters out 95% of what you can actually hear, because you'd go crazy if you 'noticed' 100% of the sound around you. Some autistic people only filter out 90% and are unable to tolerate certain loud/quiet environments.
Same thing applies with touch, so they might seek out or avoid certain textures or hate other people touching them.

God it sucks when the brain screws up. Imagine having a healthy libido but being too socially retarded to navigate the written or unwritten rules of social conduct to attract a partner, or if you get overstimulated by contact and physically cannot tolerate having sex.
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>>9646423
All this taught me is that autism is more bearable if you're female.
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>>9665212
Basically.
Women are inherently worthy of love, and men have to prove it; which they do so by being socially/sexually/financially successful, which is accomplished by being charismatic, AKA. the antithesis of being autistic.
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>>9663942
I was diagnosed at 10 and still fell behind everyone because all support agencies past me off as fine because I could do a really basic job... some of the time and still get complaints. So yeah, same shit "Oh you're fine" then support ends

It's easier if you find something you're good at or dress well, people are more forgiving then.
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>>9665121
>Imagine having a healthy libido but being too socially retarded to navigate the written or unwritten rules of social conduct to attract a partner
Mate, this is 4chan, I think you've just described large chunk if /d/wellers.
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>>9665212
Eh.
Autism is more bearable if you're cute, which women happen to have an advantage in. Cuteness and autism complement each other most of the time. I'd happily snuggle and date a cute autistic boy, too.
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>>9663942
>>9664034
Yee.
Meeting "autistics" that are weirded out by me is a bit of grim humor I get to enjoy. Doesn't do much to mitigate the frustration of them slurping up all the goodwill because they're easier to deal with than actual autistics, but still.
I had the great fortune of meeting another, similarly autistic person as me in college, that is a magical, magical feeling. Someone who "gets" it, and someone who you can share your weird moments with, and spend time exploring different levels of the human condition with. It was also really interesting being the relatively "normal" one, who could handle the socializing tax a bit better, I'd never felt that before.

>working a casual job with nothing in savings and 30k in student debt
I feel your pain. I spent 10 years jumping through academic hoops to become a teacher, only to essentially be told to fuck off, but thanks for the money, it's weird how you have A's though, haha like a month into the program that was supposed to train me.
Can you explain the 10 year employment gap in an interview in autistic? 'cuz I can't.

>>9662351
>>9663682
Yeah, no desire to spend more time with people using it as an out to explain being fuckups who can't commit to anything, or being talked to by people whose main experience is dealing with them, not people like me whose higher brain functions shut down when someone is talking at me expecting something.

>>9664121
>For me, it's restaurants.
My system is always get the calamari. It frees up my thinking of what to get or what else the restaurant might have, the consistency of it keeps me focused, and it can be a conversation piece if needed, because of all of the different places you've had calamari that are (I think) natural to bring up, and can spin off into secondary conversations pretty easily, when you mention a place or something that the other person is interested in. It ain't perfect, but it's my best strategy.
Obviously, tweak it to a common food you actually like.
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>>9665238
I know. If that sentence sounded out-of-place in my original comment, it's because I kinda shoehorned it in there.
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>>9646420
>>9646423
Why doesn't she want contraception used? Then they could bone.
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>>9656939
>This makes the aspie seeth
By brother is a turbo aspie and married a fat cunt who has completely drained his soul because he doesn't realize he is being abused. Anon is completely right and they need led to water so to speak
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>Come to jerk off reminiscing about a fat titted retarded girl I use to give the rub down back in school
>Stay for the laughs
Never change. Keep using 4chan as your phycologist that will fix it
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>>9656858
I just want someone to relate to
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>>9656858
That's quite a personal attack coming from someone who's never had sex before, dear redditor.
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>>9649970
Same
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>>9665212
Even that has a limit, there was this one girl in my middle school class I knew from before that I knew because she lived nearby. She was loud as fuck, had no interest on mainstream stuff, seemed obsessed with the school subjects yet do pretty badly in exams despite having stuff like history or literature clearly burned into her memory, as she would start rambling about that stuff at random, to the point both kids and teachers were vissibly annoyed. I always wondered why she wasn´t sent to the special class. The thing is, she was really hot, yet there were only 2 or 3 people(including me) in the whole school that would interact with her at all. She was surrounded by hundreds of men at the horniest point in their life yet nobody thought dealing with her was worth the free pussy. And I´ve seen people change their whole lifestyle or end up hospitalized just for a chance at getting laid in this same school
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>>9644652
It's been awhile, but isn't her issue severe retrograde amnesia rather than diminished intellectual capacity?
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>>9666038
Severe brain damage due to an explosion and falling into water. The amnesia is a side affect, she acts like a child the at the end of the OVA and the entire tv series.
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>>9663682
I went a few times trying to learn through observation how other autistics act, since I was diagnosed at 26.

>>9662605
The natural expectations were the worst for me growing up. No one noticed I was staring at walls lost in thought and just assumed I understood what they were talking about.

I eventually found low wage success and then convinced a day center to hire me to give guidance to autistic adults. You're absolutely right about no one caring. Media portrays it as a quirky disorder while the high functioning with self control live lonely, void lives and the rest are sent to daycare centers.

>>9665304
Autism is generally high functioning in women and a girl with self control can get a normal bf with lower standards. I suspect many MtFs are autistics who think being a woman will make life easier.
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>>9665238
There is a difference between not putting in the effort and having a neurological condition that impedes you from doing so.
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>>9666040
Yeah but at the end of the tv series she's shown improvement. She literally has no memories from before the events of Read or Die, then spent years hiding out; it's far more likely her mental state is the result of her never having received any sort of cognitive therapy resulting in a stunted intellectual and emotional post-traumatic development.
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>>9666026
I do know a very hot and talented autistic girl, but to hear her speak is kind of vile. I say this as an autist myself who didn't have the good fortune of being good looking or good at anything.

>>9666049
I'm ready to believe about MTF's
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>>9666096
>but to hear her speak is kind of vile
How so?

>>9666049
>I suspect many MtFs are autistics who think being a woman will make life easier.
I think there's a body of literature out there supporting this hypothesis. If nothing else you don't have to look much further than the video game speedrunning community.
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>>9666208
Oh no I'm in love
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>>9642946
Damn this dude has an eye for slutwear.
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>>9666208
To be fair who doesn’t like trains?
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>>9666249
People who have to commute.

t. Someone who lives in the train capital of the US. WHY ARE THERE NO OVERPASSES OR UNDERPASSES HERE GODDAMN?
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Because of this thread I took an online test for autism signs and guess what? Now I'm really worried and I'm worried doubly about my children because my father exhibits the same behaviour as me.
I just wanted to look at autistic girls in slutty clothes, goddamit...
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>>9666326
>online test
Those are of questionable quality.

If you want an actual test print this out, write up a sentence or two for each question, and take it to a doctor. If he thinks there's anything wrong he'll refer you to the right people.
https://pastebin.com/rdi5N7G4
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>>9666341
>mix dinosaur toys with cars
No sane person will do this, everyone knows that dinosaurs are superior.
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I am glad a lot of anon's enjoyed asper girl or seen it as a valuable experience.
This is a tough read that tackles a serious uncomfortable situation and subject. As far as I know there isn't another manga about this topic that is like this.
I would recommend as a nice contrast and to read aho girl. This is about a dangerously dim girl but at least she is in very good company.
On the other hand if you want more depressing seinen after this you should read the euthanasia fascility
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>>9666049
>>9666096
>>9666100
Oh, it gets better.

One of the less frequently discussed symptoms of autism is body dysmorphia. This is one reason you get the stereotype of autists believing they are robots/aliens/whatever, and probably why the furry and tf communities attract disproportionately huge numbers of autists. The best way I can describe it is that it’s like your soul doesn’t fit right in your body, but unlike gender dysphoria it’s like you are disconnected from your physical shell rather than feeling that your true self fits a clear gender archetype opposite to your own.

There’s also evidence that autism causes weird hormone imbalances in people, specifically with autistic women having high levels of testosterone and men having high levels of estrogen. Autists in general frequently come off as strangely androgynous, with autistic women tending to be tomboys and men tending to avoid traditionally masculine activities like sports in favor of the arts or writing. There’s even some evidence that whatever neurological condition causes autism and medical gender dysphoria may be linked.

This causes a problem in that the trans community actively preys on the autistic community. The trans community finds autists, who are vulnerable, easily suggestible, and already feel like they don’t fit in, and then gaslights them into believing their issues are because they are a closeted trans person rather than merely due to their autism. Some do this for ostensibly good reasons, believing the autistic person to be in the same situation they were and wanting to help, but others are more outright predatory, believing if they convince more people to be trans it will increase the number of trans voices and hence give the trans community more social leverage.

(cont.)
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>>9666491 (cont.)
This is a common issue where the trans community thinks anyone who doesn’t fall into stereotypical gender roles is an “egg” and it’s their duty to help them become a full-fledged transsexual. Of course if you do not want to fully transition, like if you just want to be a cis femboy or whatever, they freak out at you for not wanting to go the distance. So much for gender spectrum, eh?

This is one reason why a lot of doctors and psychologists are getting really uncomfortable with the current trend of allowing underage children to self-diagnose as trans and go through hormone-replacement therapy or gender-reassignment surgery, because there are a lot of other conditions that can cause the same symptoms. It turns out one of the most common factors that leads people to mistakenly believe they are trans is undiagnosed autism. So you have a lot of people mutilating their genitals to try and solve their dysphoria problems, only to find out they were autistic all along and massively regret their decisions. Statistically speaking, if you have problems with body dysphoria and not fitting in you’re more likely to be autistic than trans.

The worst part of it all is these people would be treated better if they came out as trans than if they were merely diagnosed with autism.
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>>9665849
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Just like I enjoyed boning your mother last night. It seems fetishes run in the family.

>>9665841
As if people being idiots who are too naive to realize they're in a toxic relationship is unique to aspies. I've seen tons of neurotypical people in soul-draining relationships and blind to the fact even when confronted by it.

>>9666049
Autism also tends to make people act a bit ditzy, and we still live in a society where being a bimbo is considered endearing but being a himbo is an acquired taste.

>the high functioning with self control live lonely, void lives

I'm in this post and I don't like it.

>>9666246
Ironically I've seen people suggest that autists are about as close as you can get to the "manic pixie dream girl/boy" trope IRL. I've read dating advice for autists and they suggested playing into the "quirky" archetype for success. I...have doubts about that.

>>9666326
>>9666341
Yeah dude, go to an actual psychologist. People diagnosing autism via the Internet are cancer.

>>9663942
>I swear to god, they're like a Voight-Kampff test designed to specifically discriminate against autistics.

They are a Voight-Kampff test. Most of these bizarre social rituals that make no sense to autists are shibboleths designed to identify abnormal or diseased individuals that could be a danger to the social group. These kinds of behaviors evolved to identify individuals with potentially dangerous disorders that abuse the social contract like psychopaths and sociopaths. The problem is actual sociopaths and psychopaths are good at faking being decent people (which means said tests have to be really strict to catch them), whereas the unusual but mostly harmless autists get the boot.
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>>9666472
Not the person you quoted but I really appreciate the recommendations. I want to double-check something, it seems like in your post you're referring to a third manga besides aho-girl and euthanasia facility. Forgive me if I'm missing something but what is the name of it? The picture you posted is of aho-girl, right?
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>>9666526
>Ironically I've seen people suggest that autists are about as close as you can get to the "manic pixie dream girl/boy" trope IRL. I've read dating advice for autists and they suggested playing into the "quirky" archetype for success. I...have doubts about that.
I don't think I'm autistic. I'd feel guilty as shit and very predatory to make it a criteria for a girlfriend or anything like that, but I dunno, something it that image as silly as it is touched me in a way that no other [stereotype]gf pictures have.
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>>9666472
The problem I had with it is that is that it presented the life of the titular two autists as a cold, empty existence of total misery, the characters themselves had almost no personality traits outside of their disorder, and they had almost no agency. E.g., the girl had almost no positive personality traits that would make the reader empathize with her suffering, and numerous negative traits that made her unlikable as pointed out by >>9656624. While there are many anons who can vouch that this kind of existence isn't uncommon for autists, it comes largely from social structures and a failure of parents and society to properly handle autists than anything else. It's like a feral child: they aren't feral because they were predestined to be feral, they're feral because nobody bothered to teach them how to be human.

I'm not going to be an SJW and say something like this shouldn't exist, but when every single work involving autism has this same plot it becomes boring at best and patronizing at worst. Who is the intended audience for this? Fiction is designed to either be entertaining or informative. This isn't entertaining to anyone outside a small core of sadists because it's just a misery fest. And it's not informative because it reinforces the stereotype that autists are fragile subhuman goblins destined to grok around in the dark for a shallow half-life, rather than making the reader feel sympathy or empathy with the characters and have a better understanding of autism. No one is going to be more sympathetic towards autists after reading this.
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>>9666570

Again, "what it's like" stories do need to be told, but this is so heavy-handed it comes off as one-dimensional and given this is the same plot that is used every time autism comes up it comes off as uninspired. When the most positive depiction of autism in fiction is from the SJW-fest She-Ra, you know there is a problem. I'm not saying comics should go "muh neurodiversity", but would it kill someone to write a romance story with a cute autistic boy or girl and makes them actually likable and doesn't present them as some autism stereotype goblin? Like a normal friggin' person. Doesn't even have to portray autism as good, have them struggle with the disorder but still make them sympathetic characters with agency. Abed from Community comes the closest but even he kind of fell into the "shallow half-life" thing.

Sigh, I wonder if this is what black people feel like when they see every story involving black characters revolve around racism.
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>>9666541
There were quite a lot of anons who replied to the original so I didn't quote anyone.
The Euthanasia Facility
https://www.manga.club/book/title/EUTHANASIA-EN/
You can sign in with twitter, you don't need an account.
This is only a one shot, this is a heavy read, you probably shouldn't read this if you had something planned for later this evening.
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>>9666526
>I'M MAD the post
Kek
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>>9666570
I heavily disagree with
> it presented the life of the titular two autists as a cold, empty existence of total misery, the characters themselves had almost no personality traits outside of their disorder
Both of the characters go about their day doing their own things, and in the end they live happy lives. The cold empty and sad feeling comes from their circumstances and the feelings derived from reading these books.
You should understand that the conditions they have are not just a mold of who they are but an explanation of certain parts of the whole individual, they are also not excuses for the bad things they do. It is not okay that she kicks dogs, or acts rudely, stalk people, or is addicted to trying to kill herself. Knowing she has aspergers only helps us understand a little more about her, but it does not excuse the things she does, and overcoming the trauma to not do these anymore despite the impulse is the whole idea of this story.
Yokoi is an erodoujin artist who draws more personal and more grim manga as a passion project. He has his friends, work, and his own world.
Saitou is a quiet girl who prefers to be alone and in quiet places. She likes music and even cuts her hair to look like a musician she likes. She has a lot of issues from her past, but she found someone really special to her that she is so fascinated with him that she would rather sit on a chair in his room as he works over doing literally anything else.
They are individuals, not an autist and a sperg, their conditions help to explain why they do some of what they do, but the person you read about is the person they are first and foremost, not the illness. To them the title doesn't mean much, they have to face these problems and overcome them label or not.
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>>9658333
Trips of TRUTH
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>>9666491
>Be effiminate male with a degree of gender issues
>Be relatively confident that if you were female, you'd probably be pretty tomboy anyways
>Also be pretty autistic
rip
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>>9666038
I mean, at a certain point is there really a difference?
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>>9666026
If I had gone to the same school I would have put a ring on her before college.
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>>9666491
Fuck, is there something to this?
I'm in limbo at the moment regarding an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis: I probably do have it but I'm waiting for the assessment later this year, however as an attempt to otherwise fix my life I've been seeing a ton of medical specialists recently (general psychiatrist, ADHD specialist psychiatrist, physiotherapist, plastic surgeon, dentists + oral/maxillofacial surgeon, urologist regarding phimosis [kinda counting my chickens with this one because I'm a 29 year old virgin]; yeah I'm kind of a mess) and in seeing an endocrinologist I've been diagnosed with hypogonadism. My Testosterone levels are low enough to cause issues like manboobs, weak erections, low energy, etc.
Are you saying that this might also be related to the autism symptoms?
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>>9665849
You're no better if you're here trying to find gap material

> one of us. one of us. ONE OF US
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>>9666590
>The Euthanasia Facility
Well that's the last time I go randomly reading any doujin I see linked on /d/.
This is the most thread relevant image I have, so enjoy one girl not understanding that another girl doesn't want her burger.
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>>9666491
You know, now that I think of it, most of the transgender people I know are autistic.
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>>9646420
This got me wondering how much overlap there is between this fetish and the robot girls fetish.
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>>9667399
Pic related is the reason I am here
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>>9646677
>>9658367
>>9665212
>>9665220
>>9665238
>>9665304
>>9666526

> Autism also tends to make people act a bit ditzy, and we still live in a society where being a bimbo is considered endearing but being a himbo is an acquired taste.

>>9666546


Based on these ancedotal accounts, sperg girls give best cooch. Ain't that right >>9667613 you fellow degenerate you?
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>>9667700
>Based on these ancedotal accounts, sperg girls give best cooch.
Slightly retarded/autistic girls are the best anon if my personal experience is anything to go by
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>>9651838
it's not worth the hassle, trust me
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>>9646420
this was wayyyy better than it had any right to be
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You don't really like autistic girls, I don't believe it you're not falling me.
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>>9667425
I warned you
I even introduced it as depressing
What is up with girls named yui and hamburgers?
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>>9667712
it really is amazing. I like it a lot. I'm glad the anons on /d/ liked it too.
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>>9663942
What specifically do you actually need to do to get a diagnosis? Because this sounds almost exactly like my life, the most notable differences being that I have neither student debt nor hope for my future. I've never tried to see mental health professionals before (mainly out of what I consider a more-than-justified fatalism about "help" being something that others will ever offer you in real life). Also what country do you live in (just asking because I'm in the United States and am dimly aware that "the system" for this kind of stuff differs from country to country)?
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>>9667787
see >>9666341
What 'to do' differs from country to country, but general practitioners are known as "primary care providers" and they'll have a better understanding of which direction to point you. eg. I'm an Ausfag and in my state there's an organisation called "Autism SA" that handles everything.

You don't even necessarily have to schedule an appointment with a doctor (obviously that's better because you can sit down and talk about things, but I understand with healthcare in the US being such a shitshow you might not have the financial capacity to do that). If not, maybe call or drop by the practice and ask if they have any resources regarding an autism diagnosis.
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>>9667763
For every kind of good there is a buyer.
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>>9667787
Depends on you health insurance/provider. The diagnosis will come from a psychologist who examines your behaviors and determines if you have had these behaviors since early childhood.
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>>9667961
Autistic girls sure, but no one likes autistic guys.
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>>9668013
Have you actually seen high functioning autism in men or are you just going off of chris chan?
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>>9656455
>>9656457
kek
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>>9646420
You jerk. I just lost a couple hours.
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>>9656916
You're a fucking retard, I bet think everyone needs to be vaccinated. Willful slaves to the government get what they deserve
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>>9656939
What a sociopathic mindset, you're a piece of shit
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>>9656939
oh no, i have asperger's and i am a danger to society, wow, today i was arrested because i killed 50 people with a pen, uauauauaua


Go fuckurself,
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>Talking about retarded girls
>Nobody posted Mayushii
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>>9663942
I am autistic and I have never failed a job interview. I think I can have my job only because I'm autistic, because non-autistic people seem unable to code. And I consider unable to code to illiterate and those who can't learn to code to be retarded. That makes me autistic supremacists who wants to have autistic children with autistic wife.
My tip number 1 is to be cute as fuck. Yes, even as a male fatass. I smile, seem friendly, use non-aggressive, pleasant voice, I have anegdotes about conflict resolutions in successful but peaceful ways and I can hide my social ineptitude behind typical interview nervousness. I also emphatize that I am willing to learn and my reaction to failure is smile that I've learned something new and now I can do it better.
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>>9668448
You take that back she's not retarded she's just young and a bit naive
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>>9668481
it's implied that her brain got fucked because of excessive timetravel, thats what the whole vision was about where she talked about trying to save Okabe countless times, Okabe likely would have died during the time where he almost died to a fever in the starting timeline and the Y2K panic is probably where Cern would have enacted some actual catastrophe in the timeline Mayuri changed
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This thread unironically inspired me to make my college research paper about discrimination against autism. I came here at first a bit worried how people were going to be considering how the autism spectrum is talked usually. But here, I sorta feel this thread might be more relatable for me than the average group in real life.
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>>9668331
You need to calm down buddy, this isn't /pol/.
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>>9668739
This image holds true more often than not. People here are interested in the concepts behind these specifically strange fetishes, as many of us do not understand why we like such weird things.
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>>9668743
People who spy on others ALWAYS have mentally illness and serial depravity
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>>9668747
I think you're confusing pornography with voyeurism somehow.
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>>9668743
You can tell this image is old because YouTube comments aren't as often confrontational anymore.
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>>9668785
I just googled 4chan porn roundtable and that was the best of the 3 images provided. It's a fairly popular meme on several boards that people are eager to efficiently discuss pornography while fighting savagely over their own primary topic.
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Remember that episode of Beast Wars with the Transformer that came out wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luFdJxdfhY

They did a comic set in an alternate universe with that character [spoiler]to sell club-exclusive redeco toys of her[/spoiler], and she's specifically and canonically robo-autistic. It's not porn, but it's drawn sexily.
https://imgur.com/gallery/v6N5lZm
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>>9669272
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bump this thread
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>fetish thread for retards
>actually a ylyl /d/ edition
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Honestly, we autists need all the attention we can get, so it would be much appreciated that anybody please just post and keep the thread going.

I for one don't care what you fap to, and you gotta admit that some of these pics are pretty good at spicing the mood.

even if you would like to date autistic people specifically, I don't think we would even mind. We have pretty special personalities that seemingly nobody appreciates, and you would pretty much be a unicorn to us.

ps. would request a not dumb autistic pic of someone really quirky and cute.
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>>9669726
I appreciate your special personality, anon <3
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>>9666341
Was Riesz autistic, or just a ditz?
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>>9670629
Maybe deep down all ditzes are autistic, who knows.
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>>9667291
Fuck knows. We're still in the dark age when it comes to brain stuff, any drugs for mental conditions are based on 'some people say this helps sometimes' and a weak-ass guess for why it works. Ten years ago depression was about neurotransmitters, five years ago it was about gut flora, now the latest theory is autoimmune.

Find out what makes you happy and do that as hard as you can, don't depend on medical science to save the day for you, because it sure as fuck isn't going to figure things out in our lifetimes.
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>>9656416
>sonichu
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>>9670629
>>9670865
Well either way.
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>>9669726
>Date
Anon people want to pump and dump tards not date them. Wanting to date them is pretty rare. Feeling up and fucking tards is so hot because it's basically rape
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>>9668785
depends on the comment section, but in general i'd agree.
i do partake in a little bit of trolling
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>>9666049
>>9666100
>>9666491
There was a dutch study that found almost 8% of transexuals are on the spectrum.
It would be cool if there were followups.
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You'd probably have more luck if you made the thread about overtly dumb looking girls
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>>9671422
>Wanting to date them is pretty rare.

you'd be surprised. I think predatory men specifically look for women on the spectrum.

At this point in my life I'm very suspicious that my sister is autistic. I don't think she can read faces at all. She is really smart and has a masters but she also can't read a room, talks at people instead of too them, uses disgusting humor during dinner. She has also been molested and raped on two separate occasions. She also has a habit of dating horrible people. Obviously horrible people.

If she is autistic and can't read faces and body language it would put all of this into perspective. Like, she really couldn't read that the bad men that raped her were bad men, even though the one I met, I knew was bad within seconds. Like she can't read them. She doesn't get stranger danger.

I think there are shitty men that specifically look for that. People that can't detect their bad intentions and take advantage of them. Dark triad personalities survive by looking for these types.
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>>9646456
>Somewhat related but my uncle had his wife suffer a sort of stroke and her brain suffered from partial necrosis. Basically reverted to a childlike state and my cousin who was like 6 or 7 at the time this happened has had to take care of her ever since along with my uncle. Can't go to the bathroom on her own and all that, it's really heartbreaking and horrifying to think about it happening to anyone else.

I'll be the sick fuck to ask, what did it do to their love life? I'd feel guilty grabbing my hot wife's ass if she thought like a 6 year old.
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>>9648980
>I hate to admit, but as a diaperfag... Yes, there's plenty of that, both in community and in art.

I'd bet a dollar that diaper fags are almost 50% autistic or on the spectrum
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>>9655259
>Some research group recently published a study and they think that over half of all self-identified "incels" are actually autists or undiagnosed autists, and they've misidentified the problem to become rampant misogynists.

I could see this. An inability to read female body language. Reading data in a very black and white manner.
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>>9656858
>yet have absolutely no personality or any kind of depth

browsers of /d/ have the most personality of 4chan. Other than closeted pol users, the futa keeps out a lot of bullshit
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>>9662605
>The problem is no one cares about autists. Not even the SJW crowd, who conveniently leave autism out when talking about marginalized groups based on race, sex, sexuality, and other factors. Trans people are actually higher in their eyes than we are, despite us making up about 2% of the population.

the problem with autist is that most people assume the high functioning ones are either dumb narcs or dumb assholes. They assume you pick up on people's feelings and when you do mean shit, its because you dont care about those feelings. Not that you can't pick up everything a neurotypical does.

It doesn't help that the public image of an autistic is like a slobbering retard. People don't realize that many of their favorite people are probably high functioning.
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>>9663942
>Fucking job interviews in particular, I swear to god, they're like a Voight-Kampff test designed to specifically discriminate against autistics.

felt this in my bones
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>>9666026
>The thing is, she was really hot, yet there were only 2 or 3 people(including me) in the whole school that would interact with her at all.

I would have given her a shot. But I have high bullshit tolerance from having a toxic mother.
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>>9666249
>To be fair who doesn’t like trains?

assholes
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>>9666497
>This is a common issue where the trans community thinks anyone who doesn’t fall into stereotypical gender roles is an “egg” and it’s their duty to help them become a full-fledged transsexual. Of course if you do not want to fully transition, like if you just want to be a cis femboy or whatever, they freak out at you for not wanting to go the distance. So much for gender spectrum, eh?

this all sounds rather tinfoil hat to me. Are you sure it isn't just a few individuals?
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>>9666526
>>I swear to god, they're like a Voight-Kampff test designed to specifically discriminate against autistics.
>They are a Voight-Kampff test. Most of these bizarre social rituals that make no sense to autists are shibboleths designed to identify abnormal or diseased individuals that could be a danger to the social group. These kinds of behaviors evolved to identify individuals with potentially dangerous disorders that abuse the social contract like psychopaths and sociopaths. The problem is actual sociopaths and psychopaths are good at faking being decent people (which means said tests have to be really strict to catch them), whereas the unusual but mostly harmless autists get the boot.

that is unfortunate since dark triad people are built to hide their real selves from others. having worked with a few, they come up with wild stories to tell during interviews to get around these questions. Hell, I know one that will lean into his narcissism. He is a ex drug agent who tells a story about how he almost beat a man to death for insulting his wife while booking him. Apparently HR people eat it up.

I'm not sure if I'm autistic because I can pick up that shit in people very quickly. Most dark triad people hate me because they pull their shit and I react coldly to it while reacting fine to autistic and more neurotypical people. Ideally if I can read people and detect disorders I would not be autistic. But I also sit in rooms and deconstruct how everything in it is built, dating the period of the parts of a room by the construction, and that isn't something normal people do. Also love trains, and tanks and robots. i never partake of hobbies just to belong. I understand social shit, I just hate it and don't partake of it because it feels fake or makes me feel insane.
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>>9671554
I was under the assumption we were talking about good or even decent people not scumbag predators
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>>9668477
>I am autistic and I have never failed a job interview. I think I can have my job only because I'm autistic, because non-autistic people seem unable to code. And I consider unable to code to illiterate and those who can't learn to code to be retarded. That makes me autistic supremacists who wants to have autistic children with autistic wife.
>My tip number 1 is to be cute as fuck. Yes, even as a male fatass. I smile, seem friendly, use non-aggressive, pleasant voice, I have anegdotes about conflict resolutions in successful but peaceful ways and I can hide my social ineptitude behind typical interview nervousness. I also emphatize that I am willing to learn and my reaction to failure is smile that I've learned something new and now I can do it better.

this actually highlights why it is hard to detect high functioning autism in women. Most learn these tricks by the age of five, so it doesn't get detected until they start working or having children.
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>>9666526
>Most of these bizarre social rituals that make no sense to autists are shibboleths designed to identify abnormal or diseased individuals
Whose mind is really broken then? Seems to me the people that engage in ridiculous theatrics and ritualis for no reason other than to judge anyone who does not participate in the nonsense are the ones who have a diseased and abnormal mind.
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>cope the thread
Thank you... Thank you all of you
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>>9669221
>>9669223
>>9642946
I approve of this, not ashamed. It is like bimbo stuff but not as boomer/cringe
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>>9671666
The uncomfortable reality is that when you're socially inept and touch starved even a scumbag predator seems like a godsend. Hindsight is 20/20, but I've been unable to tell the difference at times.
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>>9672041
My point is normal adjusted adults will virtually never seek out autistic people to date
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>>9671630
>Are you sure it isn't just a few individuals?
It is mostly just a few individuals that actively predate on emotionally vulnerable, or ambiguous minor, non-trans gender issue people, but they use the overall rhetoric of the community, and the community will generally back these people for the purposes of solidarity, unless there is very good evidence that said person is a scumbag.
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>>9668747
You're right.

The FBI must be the most mentally ill, sick, repugnant group of people in the history of humanity.

Home surveillance companies come second place, with first place belonging to your retarded ass
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>>9672132
yes, but you make it sound like a grand conspiracy
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>>9671630
>>9666491 here. >>9672132 is basically right in their assessment, it's most likely a small minority in the community (and I'm fully aware most trans people want to be left alone) but certain individuals
co-opt the rhetoric of the majority and other trans people don't tell them to knock it off. The broader trans community generally has an issue right now in that they're not willing to crack down or speak out on bad actors or moderate loud voices out of a desire for solidarity, which is why you get issues like that Reddit admin getting in trouble for looking the other way while their husband and father engaging in kiddy-diddling and child torture, the current trend of trans people trying to coerce both straight and gay people into sex or else be labelled as transphobic, and in general there's a trend that the LGB in LGBT aren't real fond of the T as they often see them as over-the-top drama queens.

It's the same thing with people trying to promote transgender politics in schools and encouraging prepubescent children to transition or take hormone blockers to the point that 2% of all current grade school AFAB girls identify as trans, compared to 0.2% or less before.

In other words, it's not a majority, but it's a big enough minority within the group that it's becoming an issue.
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>>9672218
I mean, you do know about J. Edgar Hoover, right?

>>9671670
The way to cope with autism is basically social level grinding to make up for the initial deficit,
which is why autists are harder to detect the older they get. And of course women socially level grind more than men due to how women are socialized and expected to be social from a young age.

>>9671554
Autistic people are supposedly more frequently abused in relationships than regular ones. Not sure if they look for women on the spectrum but I've seen studies that suggest predatory men look for women that seem unconfident or otherwise vulnerable.

>>9671658
Autists can actually be surprisingly good at detecting and identifying dark triad people. The behaviors to weed out dark triad people often creates a kind of social arms race, kind of like how a toxic newt has to keep getting more toxic to avoid being eaten by snakes. Disorders which aren't in the arms race like autism get caught up in it. Neurotypicals are bad at identifying sociopaths but autists usually don't put up with their shit if they aren't starved enough for attention that they'll turn to anyone.

Don't get me wrong, autists can be dogshit in a lot of social situations. But they can be unusually perceptive when it comes to identifying sociopaths, partly because they pick up on the inconsistencies in their behavior and don't let them sweep it under the rug due to their behavioral rigidity and focus on truth. In some cases it's not that autists are immune to social behavior, it's that they perceive too much and either pick up on things other people want to keep hidden or can't parse the real signal from the noise.

I'm an autist and always had a weird knack for picking up on people's true intentions. Like I would say "there's something wrong with that person" and people would laugh it off or say I am wrong because I am autistic, only to get proven right later on. I don't know if that's just me or if it's due to how my brain is wired.
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>came in liking autistic girls
>came out hating trannies
an odd day even for /d/
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>>9662605
Strongly disagree on SJWs not being interested or sympathetic to Spergies.

SJWs reject ableism.
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>>9672427
They reject ableism when it supports their narrative. Specifically they always reject ableism when it comes to physical deformities, but many mental disorders that affect physical behavior don't get a pass. The big thing with SJWs is that the only accept you so long as you parrot the SJW talking points and behave according to their standards. Autists have a harder time dealing with their doublethink and unwritten social rules so they often don't fit in.

I went to a liberal arts/STEM college and I noticed this a lot. The SJWs were always extremely nasty to autists because they saw them as just another straight white guy who didn't know oppression. If the autists tried to point out that they understood discrimination and marginalization because they were autistic the SJWs didn't care and saw you as just another straight cis white guy (or whatever you were).

Add to this that the fact that SJWs have only the most stereotypical mental image of autists and only view them as mentally handicapped subhumans who are barely smarter than children. SJWs massively look down on autists. It doesn't help that there was an epidemic of asshole self-diagnosing as autists to avoid accountability a couple of years ago.

Short Fat Otaku did a really good video on the whole thing. Don't always agree on his takes but what he says here about autism and the SJWs is 100% true from personal experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUb-C9yhC4
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>>9672348
>sweep it under the rug due to their behavioral rigidity and focus on truth

oh god, I feel that. One of hte biggest things I hate about work is how much the normal people lie. And I hate when they lie to me.

Its not even hard to know that they are lying. Its like, dude, you've done all this talking but there are no outputs. You're not doing or producing anything. Or they say stuff they can't possibly know.

And I have one female friend who's probably being abused and I pick up her lying to cover all the time. She's actually an amazing liar. She can do it without changing her face. But all the little pieces of the story don't go together. Like, its been 2 years since I met her mother in law, and to this day she lies about her mother in law hating me and her. My friend probably cheated on her first husband with her current husband. He told his mother. So his mother doesn't trust her around anyone. But when her mother in law shows her ass, she les and tells me the mother in law wants attention.

And its like, wtf, stop it. None of these pieces go together.

*sigh* but I always let all this shit slide and don't say anything. You don't make friends with the normies by sperging on them for lying all the fucking time.
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>>9672540
well...it has been my experience that austic men have a great deal of difficulty of how poorly sjw thinking points are structured and the language used.

Like the whole gender pronoun thing. An autist might think pronouns are set in stone. That even if you got a magic hentai spell that turned you into a perfect woman or a perfect futa and you could have babies, the autist might be like "nope, still porn male, and you still have a male mind, and my dictionary says this, so you're still a male"

Which just enrages the sjw because they assume the autist is dog whistling. But no, the autist really just has a problem with the language. He's very literally about word usage.

Another common one "why is it called feminism if it supports people of both genders?"

That's something I've ran into for 20 years and I fucking love chicks with dicks. Normal people assume you are dog whistling when you point out problems in the language they use to frame their narrative.
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This one kinda fits the bill.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1875288/1d6cd7d46b/

Context:
>Due to being a spirit, Asumi knows absolutely nothing about being human, so she lacks common sense. She also has a one-track mind, as she believes her only purpose is to serve and protect Latte. As time passes, Asumi begins to learn to adapt to her new life and understand what emotions are.


>>9672577
>You don't make friends with the normies by sperging on them for lying all the fucking time.
How do you make friends with normalfags?
I'm depressingly close to 30 and don't really have any friends because I never learned to socialise, just basic pleasantries to sorta get by in daily interactions.
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>>9672588
>How do you make friends with normalfags?
>I'm depressingly close to 30 and don't really have any friends because I never learned to socialise, just basic pleasantries to sorta get by in daily interactions.

I guess I'm really just on good terms with the normies. I can't think of any that im good friends with. Most of my friends are above average intelligence and we talk about hobbies or feelings or experiences. Normies usually have dreadful boring hobbies that let them fit in, or watching really boring things. And for some reason men don't like talking about feelings and experiences if they are average or below average intelligence. Sometimes you can cheat a little bit if you can make the stories funny though.

honestly cooking sometimes helps. Like make some cookies and leave them in the break room. But some men are also against that. In that case you can get a box of snacks like little debbie cakes and ask them if they want one.

The food in my opinion goes around their frontal lobe to the reptilian brain and makes them think fondly of you. Like it tells a primal part of them "this person cares about me, he wants to give me food so I will live longer"

Also, be clean, shave, try to have clothes that fit. Normals car more about appearance than anything.
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>>9672599

You can also offer to help them do stuff, but be careful, normies will use people.

I can think of one that always brags on me for doing the group's safety records, but I know she just doesn't want to do it -_-
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>>9671711
I don't know if you're also autistic, but weeding out the abnormal is reasonable in any group. You don't want someone who doesn't wash his hands to work in a kitchen.

I had a co-worker at my last job who was a young autistic man at the life breakdown point which happens after entering the real world and he did some BIZARE shit. Like throwing away old towels we used for rags, reorganizing boxes instead of working, putting caution tape around supplies and equipment...

His dissociation from reality and lack of focus got him fired. I regret not talking to him about his behavior. There's good reason to not hire people with uncontrolled disorders.
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>>9672602
you can also just ask them simple questions abotu whatever they are talking about. People love talking about themselves.

But that works better with intelligent people because they have more to say and more interesting things to say.
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>>9672606
true, but I bet you've also hired some real dumbasses or lazy fucks that lied their way through the interview too. And if not at your current employer, at previous ones.

Everyone has delt with the dumbasses and lazy fucks that get past HR
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question to autist

Do you find yourself, when you're trouble, wanting to tell everything? Like every little piece of the event.

I want to do that, everytime. It has been hard accepting that normal people do not do that, and that they only do that when they are lying. So if I explain an entire event they assume im lying.

So I'm better off saying the dishwasher broke and shrugging my shoulders than going through the steps of how it broke, which is what I want to do.
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>>9672620
Everyone lies, ignores what's inconvenient, and never owns a mistake. You trying to explain yourself just makes you look weak minded.

Also, most autistic women are in bad health because they never think to exercise or eat healthy. Same with the men.
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>>9672581
Part of the problem is that you're really begging the question with your examples.
>That even if you got a magic hentai spell that turned you into a perfect woman
Doesn't exist, so that's a hypothetical. Maybe some would consider that valid, and their objection is that current transition does not meet their personal threshold. This is not limited to autistic people, and there are a ton of trans people with autism, so you've really got it mixed up here.
>Another common one "why is it called feminism if it supports people of both genders?"
...Have you met any feminists? They can be super misandrist. It's not a "dog whistle", and it's not a linguistic hangup, it's just being aware that they are very biased and their name reflects that, to the point where they consider "egalitarian" a dog whistle.

I wish I lived in a fantasy world where people who disagreed with me actually agreed with me and were just stuck on semantics. I do not, and neither do you.
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>>9672646
The last year has been hell for people with autism, mostly because of all the mental gymnastics people have been doing to justify their position. Like trying to change the definition of racism or hate speech, or the numerous groups like BLM or the feminists claiming "well it's not bad when we do it", or the blatant inconsistencies in most Western governments or most of the Twitter idiots who seem to control everything now. It's very, very clear the people making these arguments aren't arguing in good faith, are coming from highly racist ans bigoted positions based on identity politics, and no amount of evidence and logic will change their mind because they run on emotion and hysterical paranoia (I've seen the current situation described as "if BPD/NPD ran the world"), but as an autist what are you supposed to do besides punch them to get them out of your face? It's hard to even keep up with their arguments because you have to sift through their seven-layer-bean-dip of bullshit to figure out what they mean and what they're not telling you about what they mean.

>>9672620
Yes. I think if I explain myself they'll believe me. They never do.
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>>9672620
Depends.
If I'm going to explain anything at all, I tend to go super long winded. Most people just kind of tune me out, so frankly, I have no idea if it makes people think I'm being honest or dishonest about it. If I ever do this, what I'm saying is true, though, since I generally can't be bothered to come up with so much on the spot.
If it sounds like a hassle, I will explain as minimally as possible. Usually, I take this route if it's a long explanation to say "and nothing/very little happened". I'll occasionally lie when doing this, saying nothing happened/was there/ect if there was something, but it was very minor.

The problem for me is mostly that there's no middle ground. I either explain as little as possible, or way too much. Heck, I'm one of those people that runs up to the 2000 character limit on like, a solid 1/3 of the posts I make here.
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>>9672620
Yep. 'I fucked up, I should explain why I fucked up so they can make a proper evaluation of me instead of assuming the worst' logic. The adage 'out of sight, out of mind' and 'least said, soonest mended' don't make sense to autist brain, but that's how most 'normal' people work so explaining why you fucked up doesn't get them to make a proper evaluation of why you fucked up and write it off as a forgivable error, it just means they spend more time thinking about it so they think even worse of you.

Worst part is, if you put them on the spot and ask them if they think that way they'll absolutely deny it, they'll say they're a forgiving and rational person and they won't blame someone for innocent mistakes, but they absolutely do. Normal people have the social norms hardcoded into them so they never have to think about how people work and how their own mind works, so they just assume they work perfectly instead of examining their own internal workings and trying to improve them.
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>>9672638
Begone ass. Arnold probably has autism and he had the perfect body for years.
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>>9672646
Obviously there are other ways to come to these conclusions. The point was that an autist might really not have a problem with these marginalized groups and really might have a problem with how the words are used in the narrative.
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>>9672679
Exactly an autist lying sounds like a neurotypical telling the truth. We try to keep it short so there is less chance of us messing the lie up.

Which begs the question, why do nerotypicals tell big stories when they lie if most normal people read it as a lie? Why are they wired to tell on themselves?
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>>9672679
>the 2000 character limit
the fact that posting and texting and etc... always has character limits tells me how much normie communication is just meaningless bullshit.
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>>9673033
I think this is also why I hate the reddit spacing comment.

I have been online for 20 years. When I started I would post in very long sentences in one paragraph. It was some stream of consciousness shit.

It enraged people. It took me a while to figure out people wanted me to break them up into sentences and paragraphs.

I finally figured it out and so help me god I'm not learning something else.
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>>9666575
I always thought Criminal Minds did a good job depicting Reid as autistic. He was simultaneously the smartest and dumbest person in the room most of the time. He was certainly a sympathetic character at least later in the series, though it has been a long time since I watched the early stuff. But while sympathetic, he was constantly struggling to read the room and understand what was really going on. It seemed every time he opened up to try to relate to people he got shut down hard because he misunderstood the meanings behind what was being said.
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>>9673013
It isn't just that we autists sound like we are lying, we tend to look like it too. One of the most introductory "behavioural profiling" things everyone learns and then decides they are a master of human psychology, is that when people look you in the eye, they are telling the truth. If they look away or avoid eye contact, it is a sign they are lying. Meanwhile most autists (when they are young) will either avoid eye contact with you or stare you down creepily. Most don't have a sense for what is normal. It took until I was 13 and had an Aspergers diagnosis before anyone decided to sit me down and explain the importance of eye contact in a conversation. Up until that point, family and teachers KNEW 100% that I was a liar and a cheat. I was cheating on my tests even though they couldn't figure out how. I was lying to them about other kids picking on and bullying me, clearly the three kids who each threw a rock at me couldn't all be lying, they acted normal.
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>>9673001
>have a problem with these marginalized groups
Neither of my examples involved actually having a "problem with these marginalized groups", just not believing some talking point or doctrine that is still currently controversial.
No wonder you haven't convinced anyone in 20 years. Your position is "you're either pedantic, a hateful goblin, or agree with me".
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>>9673169
>One of the most introductory "behavioural profiling" things everyone learns and then decides they are a master of human psychology, is that when people look you in the eye, they are telling the truth.

Its funny so many people believe this and yet it has been disproven. Neurotypical adults around the age of 33 get really good at lying and looking you in the face. You have to look elsewhere to detect lying, like they start to move around their chair, touch their clothes, tap their foot. Some sort of self sooth movement. Dark triad individuals can often do it perfectly with no self soothing. They can even lie without increasing heart rate. It is like breathing to them.

Autistic still usually catch it if they care, they just have to think about the information that has been provided.

Like say me and another guy was involved in some big overtime project at work. I say "Oh man, I was on graveyards for 12 hours for 30 days." Then a normal follows up with "well I was on 16s for all last month"

It sounds like the normal has one upped you at that point. Poor him, working 16s for a month! But oh, lets think about the data. The event happened on the 25th. In a day with 30 days, that is only 5 days. He worked 16s for 5 days. Not 30, which he implied. That is 80 hours. The person working 30 days, assuming weekends, of 12s. that is 240 hours.

Don't lie to an autist. If they are functioning at all, and they care, they know you're lying.
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>>9673212
I won't repeat myself. I'e provided an example that exist with a range of possible behaviors. You are treating it as black and white, a binary.
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>>9669726
Where do I find autistic people to love?
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I wanted to jerk it to retards, not listen to retards complain about how hard life is, take it to /r9k/ you fucking autists
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>>9673565
Your post is ironic.
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>>9673223
I've always wondered if the reason autistic people don't like to lie is because they think they're being super obvious about it and they think they're making the lie super easy to spot, and they think everyone thinks that way. Kind of like how Jotaro in JJBA believes he's super easy to read but in reality his demeanor is like a stone wall. It's one of the reasons people wonder if Araki accidentally wrote Jotaro as an autist (I doubt he intentionally tried to, but who knows).
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>>9646420
Holy shit anon I can't stop reading what have you done
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>>9672620
While there have always been some normies who held me to normie standards and assumed I was lying no matter what I told them, in some ways my autism has been something of a boon for me in regards to people trusting me. It causes me to be pathologically honest. I'm perfectly capable of lying convincingly, but I hate doing so, because to lie is to misrepresent reality, which makes my hyper-literal brain scream at me "BUT THAT'S NOT CORRECT!" Anyone who knows me basically knows to treat anything that comes out of my mouth as gospel, and will stick up for me if someone who doesn't know me doesn't believe me. Often when people want to get to the bottom of a situation and find out what happened, they just ask me.

As for gaining that trust in the first place, I guess it's just because I'm a man of very few words, I have a serious demeanor, do my work and keep to myself, help people when I can but don't try to be anyone's friend. I guess the fact that I don't seem to want anything from anyone and I'm dependable and don't talk myself up or anything makes people trust me easier. I understand that's not every autist's experience though, and in fairness, I got that way after three decades of trying and failing quite miserably to fit in.

>>9673038
I hate that shit too. Problem is, most of the people who throw around the phrase "Reddit spacing" have no idea what they're talking about or what that phrase even means. Writing a full paragraph and then line breaking for the next paragraph is not fucking Reddit spacing, it's just common practice for any website that formats out indentation, which is most websites, including this one. It makes your post actually readable instead of being one big-ass intimidating block of text.

Reddit spacing, on the other hand, is the act of line breaking after every sentence, or even partial sentences.
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>>9673400
Autistic men? Any sort of nerdy hobby and you will find plenty. Anything to do with swordfighting, card games, board games, airsoft, anything to do with trains or model aircraft, etc.

Autistic women? Hell if I know.
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>>9673703
You pretty much look in the same places, nerdy hobbies. Most of them tend to be male-dominated, which seems to act as a sort of filter for the types of women who get involved in them: a man with a nerdy hobby is likely to be on the spectrum, a woman with a male-dominated nerdy hobby is pretty much guaranteed to be on the spectrum. Speaking anecdotally, of course.
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>>9673592
>I've always wondered if the reason autistic people don't like to lie is because they think they're being super obvious about it and they think they're making the lie super easy to spot
I mean, I grew up being called a liar nonstop and my principal at one point told me I was "A serial killer or school shooter waiting to happen" and that she "Wasn't going to let someone like me endanger the children in her care" I feel like I developed a phobia of lying because on some level it would be admitting they were right. That even if no one believed me that I was telling the truth, at least I was, but if I actually lied it would somehow be worse than them just thinking I lied.
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>>9673592
>I've always wondered if the reason autistic people don't like to lie is because they think they're being super obvious about it and they think they're making the lie super easy to spot, and they think everyone thinks that way. Kind of like how Jotaro in JJBA believes he's super easy to read but in reality his demeanor is like a stone wall. It's one of the reasons people wonder if Araki accidentally wrote Jotaro as an autist (I doubt he intentionally tried to, but who knows).

Personally it is because my mom would beat us if she caught us lying. Its also why I wanted to tell everything when something bad happened because she had this thing called lying by omission where you might get beat for leaving something out.

But I've always assumed other autists did it because truth was orderly.
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>>9673833
I've often wondered how much of so-called stereotypical autist behavior is really because of the condition, and how much of it is because many of us came from abusive environments. I remember noticing it when I had to write an autistic character for a writing prompt and they came off as energetic and enthusiastic and nothing like the autism stereotype. I did a bit of self-searching and they reminded me of myself when I was very young, before I went through a lot of abusive and traumatic experiences that kind of turned me into a stereotypical autist (stoic, cold, hyper-logical, doesn't like people).

Plus a lot of autistic stereotypes, like stoicism, avoidant behavior, or hating the idea of being in positions of weakness in relationships, seem very, very similar to what neurotypicals in abusive relationships end up becoming like.

>>9673703
>>9673718
Furry conventions are another "good" place to look. Some of the only female autists I've known have all been furries. Downside is, of course, that they're furries.

That said, they tended to be the "good" kind of furries, that just liked drawing anthropomorphized animals and related to them more than humans, rather than the "yiff in hell while wearing a fursuit" kind.
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I was told I was possibly autistic when I was twenty fucking six years old. I feel like my entire life was a big lie, a joke. I look back and I see all the spergy shit I did as a kid and in school and it just destroys me. All those years I thought people were laughing with me, that I was a "normal" person like my classmates, but no apparently fucking not. I'm not even sure if I can get diagnosed as having autism at this point. Fuck, living is getting harder and harder. I'm honestly going to cut all non-essential social contact, and probably commit suicide in the next 20-30 years when my folks pass away. I hate it. So fucking much. This is the closest thing I have to an autistic chick on my PC. Sorry.
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>>9673703
>Autistic women
There's tons on /cgl/, I wouldn't advise it though
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>>9674017
Shrink I talked to quite a few years ago discussed the possibility with me that my issues might not actually be autism. While he cannot say for sure that I don't have autism, all my symptoms that were previously chalked up as autism are also consistent with the violent abuse, verbal and emotional abuse, gaslighting and isolation I described to him. He commented that it is kind of a chicken and egg thing. Does the disorder we all call autism happen in the kid and then they get subjected to this sort of treatment? Or does this treatment create these symptoms that society as a whole conveniently write off as some mysterious disorder we don't know the cause of, rather than the obvious but uncomfortable cause in front of us.

>Plus a lot of autistic stereotypes, like stoicism, avoidant behavior, or hating the idea of being in positions of weakness in relationships, seem very, very similar to what neurotypicals in abusive relationships end up becoming like.
It goes further than that. Consider that autists often obsess about something abnormal. This can be easily interpreted as a form of escapism from their shitty life, before you even get into the amount of roleplay, fantasy and sci-fi stuff. The obsessive behavior could also be a way of feeling a sense of control, to make up for the lack of control we have in social interactions.
Add on that most autists don't like being touched. Not exactly surprising for someone who has been physically abused to have been conditioned to fear that another beating is coming even if they aren't consciously aware of it.
Appearing to lack empathy isn't surprising when many of us haven't exactly had the most empathetic caregivers and peers.
Overstimulation from lights, sounds textures, etc. Any of these could be something we subconsciously associate with a prior trauma.
I could go on.

The overlap between autism and various recognized disorders that are known to come from isolation, violence or trauma is staggering.
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I'd post Symmetra pics but they don't really fit the spirit of the thread if you get my drift.
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>>9674240
I'd guess that like less than 1% of people familiar with Overwatch know that Symmetra is autistic. Also pretty much all porn of OW characters is made only because they're attractive, recognizable, high-quality models, and not because anyone gives a shit about the actual characters anymore. Also OP really just wanted a sub-70 IQ thread.
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>>9674170
Schizoid behavior can develop over childhood in order to control emotions and avoid being stupid in conversation

>>9674036
Last resort for adults is going to day centers and even living facilities for the autistic. That's also where you're most likely to find autistic women. It is extremely common for adults to get diagnosed and not having a job by mid 20s is usually a massive red flag.

To the autistics here who aren't convinced we're superior to people without brain disorders, do you think you can deal with autistic girl's behavior? Or even convince her to go out with you?
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>>9674017
>I've often wondered how much of so-called stereotypical autist behavior is really because of the condition, and how much of it is because many of us came from abusive environments. I remember noticing it when I had to write an autistic character for a writing prompt and they came off as energetic and enthusiastic and nothing like the autism stereotype. I did a bit of self-searching and they reminded me of myself when I was very young, before I went through a lot of abusive and traumatic experiences that kind of turned me into a stereotypical autist (stoic, cold, hyper-logical, doesn't like people).
>Plus a lot of autistic stereotypes, like stoicism, avoidant behavior, or hating the idea of being in positions of weakness in relationships, seem very, very similar to what neurotypicals in abusive relationships end up becoming like.

Yes, I was also an energetic sweet boy. I didn't become anti social until the abuse in my early teens.

Who knows what part of my personality is biological and how much of it is a defense to abuse.
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>>9674017
>Furry conventions are another "good" place to look. Some of the only female autists I've known have all been furries. Downside is, of course, that they're furries.

The only thing that sucks about female autist is the younger ones have unreasonably high standards, wanting men like their favorite fictions.

Well...the other thing is sperging out over things not being fair. Especially if they are in some sort of progressive mind think club.
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>>9646420
I know this will sound like autism, but I browse /d/ with my gf sometimes and for years she has been trying to get me into reading manga but I just never cared for it, until I tried looking at this one you posted and for a few hours I couldn't look away. Aside from Yotsuba (which our copy is in all hiragana so she can't read it well) I have not read a manga. Thank you for posting this, and I am glad to have found it. My gf read it later and came into my office room crying about I think chapter 32 or so. Very good manga
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>>9671744
>It is like bimbo stuff but not as boomer/cringe
Why do I feel like I know what you mean but can't articulate it.
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>>9643877
For the sake of what humanity we have left. Never post again
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>>9643877
Why is this so hot
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>>9672581

Are you telling me all stubborn people are autistic?

Makes sense, actually
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>>9656939
Genuine question, why do you think this? I'm autistic and I've never really had problems with common sense at all. It's dehumanizing to compare us to animals that "Need to be medicated".
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>>9666049
Not trans myself, but I'm autistic and I know trans autistic people. From my experience MTF autistic people generally just do it because of the dysphoria, rather than a misguided belief like that.

It frustrates me that a lot of people make assumptions about the reasoning for behaviour in autistic people based around the idea that they're just cartoonishly lacking in any sort of common sense.
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>>9662351
I find that the people who pretend they aren't autistic are generally idiots, and fall into the worst traps associated with the disorder. But at the same time I feel like it's just some kind of overcompensating pushback for how easy it is to get self-hating when you're autistic. The best way to deal with it imo is just to compensate for the weaknesses and then move on with your life.
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>>9674438
I feel like you're ignoring that individual traits would still be a factor when it comes to dating an autistic girl. Some would have greater social skills than others, less quirks, more acceptable quirks, etc.
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>>9673592
Yeah, pretty much it. Compared to the average autistic person I actually have above average social skills (Still below average, but y'know) so I can get away with a lie from time to time. But generally I just don't like taking the risk.

Over time I've learned the mannerisms, I can keep my voice the exact same when I'm lying, take note of possible contradictions, keep my body language the same, etc. But it's just stressful taking the risk, especially when I know my perception of my own abilities is in some way permanently clouded.
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>>9673223
Personally my experience has actually been the exact opposite. I usually don't need to look at the information provided, because I find people's tone of voice gives it away every time. The slightest change in pitch, tone, etc and they're pretty much always lying. I can obviously fact check after getting that hunch, and in my experience I've been right pretty often.

>>9672646
I personally feel that my train of thoughts are not that rigid.

>>9672620
Absolutely, but I usually know that's a bad impulse and shut myself up. My go-to is to explain my reasoning/the steps that lead to a mistake and then not mention anything else.

>>9669726
These thoughts patterns are going to harm you in the long run. Both self-pitying and assuming that you're special, unique and cool by default. Both harmful individually and a really awful combo. Please try to introspect on these traits a bit more.
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>>9672588
Unironically, try D&D (In person). Trains a lot of social skills that are otherwise difficult to intentionally seek out. Learning how to make good jokes, get to know people, act, how to be truly casual around people, etc. Plus if you actually like the game you have a guaranteed mutual interest to talk about.
>>9671554
That's genuinely really strange. Have you tried asking her about the mental process she goes through? I can usually pick up on people's intentions pretty quickly, maybe she just... doesn't know what to look for?
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>>9666491
>Autistic
>Always been noticeably more feminine than my male peers
>Constant sense of gender dysphoria
>Feel like shit about being a guy all the time
>Don't want to transition because I specifically don't wanna be a tranny

what do
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>>9666491
>The best way I can describe it is that it’s like your soul doesn’t fit right in your body
Oh fuck off. You don't have a magical special soul, your brain is just wired wrong.
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>>9667763
So long as it's not the kind of autism that makes someone stare into space and clap to an imaginary song I'm pretty sure I could handle it.
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>>9669221
>retard has a Queen of Spades tat
Checks out.
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>>9674939
It's called a metaphor, moron.
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>>9675437
>a metaphor
In other words, a waste of wind.
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>>9674939
>your brain is just wired wrong.

your shit face is wired wrong
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>>9674017
>>9674526
It's a bit of a cycle.
Autists act a little weird, which gets them mistreated/isolated, which makes them act weirder, which makes them get mistreated/isolated more.

I honestly think autism doesn't "appear" later in life, it just takes time until the cycle reaches a critical mass, and some of the different ways it manifests are based on if the individual primarily experienced abuse or isolation.
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>>9674596
There's a handful of fetishes that are just cringe, that exist because boomers have their own brand of mental impairment that leads them to bizarre representations of fetishes/ect.
Bimbos. Latex/gimpsuit BDSM. Fuck it, the entire idea of a "dominatrix".

We can't articulate it, because it's basically incomprehensible to anyone who isn't, or wasn't raised as a boomer. It's an "energy" to certain things, as the only part we can recognize.
And not for lack of trying, either, these things are the memetic "deviant" images pushed by boomers in their media.
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>>9675594
You know what i'm reminded of? That comic where the old fat guy edited his two bimbo OC's into it as if they were talking to him and reading responses from his fanbase for his bimbo comic. Anyone know what I mean? I feel like that's the essence of what I was thinking of.
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>>9674887
The solution is to get on HRT, but the other way around:
Seek advice from a doctor about starting testosterone injections.

If they tell you "your T levels are low but normal" tell them you're having difficulty achieving and maintaining an erection, low energy and trouble concentrating, poor performance in the gym (can't grow muscle despite working out and eating right), can't grow a full beard, and are experiencing that dysphoria issue. Gyno helps the argument too if you have it.
^I had all these problems legitimately but most doctors are lazy and will 'treat' you like a chart not a person. I had to specifically ask for referral to an endocrinologist behind my regular doctor's back because he wouldn't help me. Lo and behold, I've got an androgen insensitivity issue causing secondary hypogonadism.
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>>9675615
I didn't realize other people do reverse HRT. Taking antiandrogens has taken away the dysphoria I felt over not being a guy. Glad I didn't go the ftm route, but it's scary that I can't trust my stupid autistic brain.

I'm glad you finally found what helped you, anon. Doctors suck.
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>>9675640
Well it's not really "reverse HRT" in my case it's just 'Testostetone supplementation" therapy; the male equivalent to what you're on would be estrogen blockers or aromatase inhibitors.

I don't think I've ever really felt like a dude or a lady (that's I guess what happens when you're socially isolated due to autistic tendencies and experience inhibited sexuality as a result hormonal insufficiency). I've seen what trans people go through though and know I'm not strong enough to endure that, nor am I set on the idea of being feminine to begin with; in a way I kinda took the easy way out by just leaning into virilisation.
Honestly I don't really buy into any particular ideology, in the end I just want people to be happy. I'm glad the anti-androgens worked for you.
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>>9675594
But all of these are easily understandable:
- bimbos are usually just slutty overly feminine aesthetic (some people like them for their low intellect, but intellegent bimbos are a thing too so it's more of a "subfetish")
- latex looks nice because of the shine
- dominatrixes are basically the feeling of powerful and dominating partner
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>>9646420
DUDE THIS IS AMAZING. I'm on like chapter 6! thank you thank you
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>>9647375
You know the manga is good when I kept reading it after that shit happened.
Also when she finally did it was cute as hell
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>>9674887 (This is me)

>>9675615
>>9675640


The thing is, I'm not really neutral here. I'm not trying to lean into the one I have more hormones for, I just feel like absolute shit all the time about being a guy.

Isn't it just as likely that trying to take testosterone and forcing myself to look and act more masculine would just make it worse, permanently?
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>>9676397
Are you happy right now?
If not, something should probably change.

My advice is to talk to a doctor about your options, not losers and armchair scientists on 4chan.
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>>9676402
No, I'm not.

But it seems like a doctor would likely just push for me to transition, waiting will make everything worse, and taking tesosterone is a complete gamble.
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>>9676331
back again, thanks a lot fucko. i'm fucking autistic fuck you. go die.
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>>9676413
>But it seems like a doctor would likely just push for me to transition
The opposite, actually.
First port of call is to get your hormone levels checked because an imbalance of Testosterone and Estrogen can be the cause of dysphoria.

You want levels checked on the following: Testosterone + free testosterone, Oestradiol, follicle stimulating hormone, lutenising hormone, prolactin, sex hormone binding globulin, as well as probably thyroid levels too.
If your doctor orders just a basic T-level check ask for the others to be added onto the request so he can get a better view at what's going on.
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>>9676429
I see, and then what? Can I use that knowledge to make a more informed decision? (Like transitioning if it turns out I don't have any kind of T deficiency)
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>>9676435
You're doing that thing I mentioned where you're trusting 4chan to give you more accurate advice that someone with a medical degree.

A normal androgen level check tells you if the engine is on and wheels are spinning, but that broader hormone panel gives more perspective on the activity of each gear between the engine and the axle. It's a more expensive test to run so by default the doctor will probably only request all that shit if you go to the trouble of asking. That's all.
If you find out a gear isn't spinning, you try fixing the gear first rather than going to the trouble and expense of rebuilding the engine. If there isn't THEN think about transitioning, but that's a last resort.
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>>9676435
>>9676440
Also you can have dysphoria and normal T levels if your body is just unlucky enough to have a mild or partial insensitivity to androgens.
This is why it's very important to discuss your symptoms as well. Don't just ask for the blood test.
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>>9676449
>>9676440
I see. So get my hormone levels checked, including everything this person listed: >>9676429

And then I get my hormone insensitivity levels checked, and then if nothing's wrong in any category should I transition?
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>>9676461
>And then I get my hormone insensitivity levels checked
That's not a thing, 'insensitivity' is just a congenital defect and is an example of something that could be going wrong (which the doctor will have to diagnose through the hormone panel and a further battery of tests). In the car example it would be the equivalent of the car floating off the ground; engine is running, gears and the wheels are spinning fine, but for some reason you're just not going anywhere.

TALK. TO. A. DOCTOR.
Don't assume anything about the underlying mechanics of your current issue, just tell the doctor how you feel and request (if you proceed to a bloodtest) that all those hormone types be checked. The doc will tell you where to go from there. If you're not satisfied with their answers, see another doctor. That's how this process works.
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>>9676464
Absolutely plan to see a doctor, was just making sure I knew what to say to bring up to them. Thank you for your advice.
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>>9676468
That's alright, seeing a doc is the main takeaway here and I only emphasise that because I might have over-inundated you with details:
It's kinda hard to gauge comprehension over the internet, and because I've got a semi-clinical background sometimes I talk about concepts that probably are a little esoteric or unintuitive to laypeople.

Anyway I hope it all works out. Could be an incredibly diagnostically obvious problem with a very simple fix. Could be more complex, but we can't know that at this stage.
Best of luck.
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>>9675441
>he said, using a metaphorical meaning of the word 'wind'
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>>9676429
someone's been on the powers reddit
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>>9676620
Wind is air moving by a change of pressure.
Every time you speak, that is wind.
Not environmental in origin, but still wind.
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>>9676620
Lmao



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