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A thread dedicated to the foreskin.
Traps, futa, men, monsters, whatever; so long as there's a penis with a foreskin, it's welcome!
Avoid hyper/massive foreskin
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>avoid hyper/massive foreskin

may as well be circumcised. sad!
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>>9679247
as someone with hyper/massive foreskin, I find your statement offensive
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>>9679247
since when is "unmangled cock" a fetish
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>>9682862
I dunno, but it's rare enough to need to be looked for specifically. Dark times indeed.
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>>9682862
I grew up uncut in the US, porn was all cut, foreskin was normal in Japan so they generally didn't bother to accurately depict and accentuate it beyond the obvious like frenulum play and pulling it back. So I definitely take note of foreskin.

1617110 [Kizuki Rei] Bitches Journey Ch.2
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>>9684712
Chapter 3.
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>>9684720
Just to note, I've never personally had smegma, even after not bathing for literally 2 months (long story). Either this is some racial or environmental particularity, or they're taught to do it wrong and overwash their dick.
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thanks for this thread OP
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Got some Uncut Futa humiliation? or Captions?
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>>9684723
Your foreskin probably isn't long enough.
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>>9686727
It's pretty long. A good 1/2 inch out from my glans when flaccid.
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>>9686897
Odd, 2 months without washing it is extreme.
Then again if you were regularly retracting it or jerking off during that time, it might've rubbed away naturally.
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>>9686968
I think that's probably it. Never bothering to retract, which seems cultural. However, just like the difference in the eyefolds, foreskin morphology could be different as well.
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>>9686988
Foreskins are definitely different, and there's a variety of reasons why someone wouldn't develop smegma. It's worth noting that smegma needs a somewhat moist environment to really build up. Somebody with a loose foreskin and dry glans is probably not going to produce much at all.
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>>9687190
This will probably sound odd but I'm circumcised but was left with quite a bit of foreskin. I'm a grower and pretty small when soft my penis usually resembles the ones in these pics >>9679252
>>9686505

I can get smegma but for me the way to get it is by letting cum or pre-cum get trapped under there. If I don't get cum or pre-cum under there then I still get some build up but it's more flaky and doesn't have a strong odor. I'm able to stretch my foreskin up enough to almost completely cover the head when erect. I can cover the whole thing if I am sitting. I sometimes catch some of my cum and then let myself get soft without cleaning off. When I do that I'll have a big mess under there in a day or two. Of course my foreskin will slowly peel back on it's own if I get a full on erection but with a semi it stays forward usually Or I can even get a full on erection and have it stay up if I'm sitting down. Whenever I get soft though since I'm cut I have to help it and give it a bit of tug back into position or it will look like more like >>9679254


Just checked since it's been a while since I've cleaned and I've fapped in that time. Didn't peel it all the way back onto the shaft but I pulled back enough to see a chunk of smegma stuck on the side of the head. Guess I'll wash off tonight.
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>>9687340
hi again Mr. Unique Penis
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>>9691503
>got in trouble back in like 2009 because my mom found this on my laptop
Thanks for the memories
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>>9687340
Pretty much in the same boat. Grew up with pretty bad phimosis, was circumsized a few years ago and requested that most of the foreskin was kept since they asked, so it doesn't cover much of the tip when erect.
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>>9682862
a big percentage of america was cut at birth because it's normal to do. some poeple are fine with it, other people feel humiliated just thinking about it
for me at least it definitely makes me feel like less of a man or something. i know it sounds completely insane but considering historically designed to mark slaves, humiliate defeated soldiers, and punish male sexuality for even existing, it certainly fucks you up in the head
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>>9697756
It's always interesting how everyone is losing their shit when it's about female genital mutilation, but when it's about male genital mutilation it's A-OK with laws explicitly allowing and protecting it.
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>>9699204
Because gynocentrism. Women are much more valuable to reproduction and continuing the human race than men are for obvious reasons. Due to how we've evolved women are generally put on a pedestal and society feels a strong urge to protect them whereas men are usually seen as disposable.

What is one of the main things people trying to defend infant/child circumcision say? Women like it better. So apparently it's ok to cut an infant male's genitals if women like it. How do you think society would react if men started saying they preferred girls that were cut and tried to defend and advocate for cutting infant females?
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>>9699445
Problems in our society are only solved if people are actively dropping dead, or if it affects women. No one cares about or respects men 5 seconds after they are born.
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>>9688107
hot as fuck, finally a good thread, fuck jewdicks
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>>9699445
>Women like it better
No? If you mean they don't like the look of the foreskin covering your head you can just pull it back (and it feels way better fapping like that), with the added bonus that you don't lose sensitivity unlike cut cocks.
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>>9687340
same. when I'm soft the head of my dick is covered still. even when I'm half hard it doesn't peel back all the way on its own. I'm definitely circumcised tho which fucking sucks. I don't remember ever having a foreskin, I think it happened when I was an infant. I've hated doctors ever since I learned about circumcision.
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>>9699566
me again. don't kill yourselves yet, cutbros. the evil jew doctors fucked us up, but foregen.org has got our backs. consider donating.
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>>9699573
There's nothing dumber than this shit.

Literally just stretch your foreskin, dude. I'm stretching mine out even though I'm uncircumcised, people have been doing this shit for years.

It takes a long time, but it's still faster than waiting for scam projects like that to get off the ground.
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>>9699657
>Literally just stretch your foreskin, dude. I'm stretching mine out even though I'm uncircumcised, people have been doing this shit for years.
Different anon here, post method or routine pls
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>>9699727
You can find lots of shit online, just look up foreskin restoration. Personally I use a DIY device for a few hours a day, the ones you can buy are super overpriced for what they are.
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God, I hate retards like this. You don't know what the term "fetish" means, so don't ever use it again.

You probably think that a fetish is liking something that is abnormal, or is abnormal TO like, when that's not what it is.

A fetish is merely being obsessed with something to an extreme or abnormal degree... That's it.

So, whether or not people are SUPPOSED to just naturally like it is irrelevant.

So, if you like ANY body part to an abnormal degree, even if it's a part that you're just naturally SUPPOSED to like in the first place and it isn't weird to like that body part, it's still a fetish.

Because, to reiterate, a fetish isn't about liking something that's abnormal to like, it's merely liking something to an abnormal or extreme degree, especially if it's to the point of obsession.

In my case, I have a massive, massive, MASSIVE foreskin fetish and am obsessed with it like fucking crazy. I constantly think about it more than anything else.

But, despite it being a part of the body that people are just naturally supposed to like in the first place, it's still a fetish because of HOW MUCH I like it and HOW MUCH I'm obsessed with it.

I hope I've helped you and others properly understand what the term "fetish" ACTUALLY means.
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>>9682862
>t.jewdick
Mad because the rabbi stole your foreskin?
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Look, in a perfect world. This would not even be a fetish because everyone would be uncut.
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>>9700238
Sadly we're living in a special kind of hell so everyone must suffer.
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>>9700238
That's not how fetishes work. Read >>>>>9700168
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>>9700168
This.
Something that is nice, or that you prefer, isn't a fetish. It can debatably cross into that territory when the thing in question is usually abhorrent to most, but that's a weak case.

A good rule of thumb is how often you default to it while fapping with the good ol' imagination. If you can fap to some nice pictures of feet, but when it's just you and your brain alone, they either don't come up at all, or else do very rarely, then odds are good, it's not a fetish. If most of the time you fap with your imagination, maybe 60+%, you end up with feet, you probably have a foot fetish. If you sometimes start fapping to something else, like say, swimsuits, or fellatio, or fucking a trap, idk, but then end up shifting over to feet mid-fap, then you definitely have a fetish.
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>>9700750
YES! YES! EXACTLY! THANK YOU! YOU GET IT! FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO FUCKING GETS IT! THANK YOU, NORMAL HUMAN BEING WHO HAS A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING BRAIN! THANK YOU! You have no idea how annoying it is that people don't understand this basic shit. Seriously, I'm so fucking happy that I've finally fucking found another person who actually understands how it works. Seriously, thank you. Thank you so fucking much for getting it. I could cry right now with how happy I am. Just... thank you. That's all I can say. Why can't more people be like you?
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>>9699445
Meh.
Cut cocks last longer because of the reduced sensitivity, but uncut is cuter, and it doesn't matter who's looking, cute cocks are better. .
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>Cut cocks last longer because of the reduced sensitivity
Actually, that's not necessarily true. Circumcised guys are several times more likely to suffer from premature ejaculation, and one of the many functions of the foreskin is that it actually gives men better control of their orgasms/ejaculations. Also, even if circumcised men did last longer, it's not a good thing, because circumcised penises create friction inside the vagina and scrape out the female's natural lubrication with every outward thrust, which ends drying her out and making her sore and makes her want sex to be over as quickly as possible. It can actually be very uncomfortable for the woman and even downright painful in some instances. But, yes, you are correct, intact cocks are much cuter. :)
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>>9702063
Different anon here and I think intact penises look better. I actually think my own penis looks cute when flaccid despite but circumcised but I don't have the typical circumcision. I'm>>9687340 I like how just a bit of the head peeks out of its hoodie when soft.

Also I've never had sex but I do wonder how long I would last. I know that when I'm in the mood I don't last long at all when fapping unless I edge. I also have a super sensitive spot on the underside that gets exposed when the skin goes back. It's enough to make me shudder when I brush a finger across it. I can make myself cum super quick by pulling my foreskin up over the head and sliding a finger down between that spot and head and then moving my finger back and forth.
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>>9702081
>I also have a super sensitive spot on the underside that gets exposed when the skin goes back.
I assume you're talking about the frenulum? Makes sense, as the frenulum, along with the ridged band (very tip of the foreskin) contain the largest cluster of nerve endings in the penis and are the two most sensitive and pleasurable parts of the foreskin.

Though, in your case, you're clearly missing your ridged band, which for me is the absolute most sensitive part of my penis.

But, yeah, frenulum stimulation is really good. I barely do it, though, because I don't want to get used to the feeling. I want the experience to be amazing every time I do it.
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pretty sure i have a foreskin fetish but don't really like the rest of men besides the cock. i literally love watching uncut men fap alone. i love obsessing over details of how foreskin looks pulled back and forward and every which way on a dick in dick pics. if it is just a fetish though i probably shouldn't act it out irl if i don't actually like men right? anyone else relate here? its hard to find people as obsessed with uncut guys i am but it seems like there's some here that are. it was probably one of the first and only things i got obsessed with as far as porn goes. nothing turns me on more than a big uncut dick and watching the guy fap.
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>>9701950
That literally isn't true, the foreskin has nerves responsible for controlling the orgasm response
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>>9700168
agreed, but this thread will attract people who are upset about their own situation. like i understand the fetish but being a cutfag feels pretty fucking shit and there's little outlet

>>9699778
i just do manual methods, i can't really notice a difference. apparently it's gonna be 1 or 2 years of this shit before i can get it to cover my head
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>>9706289
Yes but it seems that lasting too long or taking forever to finish is a common complaint from circumcised guys. Cumming too quickly can certainly occur from being circumcised but it doesn't seem to be nearly as common. You hear a lot for of circumcised guys talking about how their partner gets sore from how long it takes them to finish. You rarely hear about cut guys having issues with blowing their load in 30 seconds.

>>9706414
I know it's hard but I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just keep on doing restoration if you want. I'd say that unless you had a very horrible circumcision that makes finishing from sex or even fapping next to impossible the thought of being cut when you had no say in the matter and should've been protected is affecting you far more than any physical sensitivity you've lost. My advice is to try and come to terms with what was done to you. It's not easy but I believe that should be the main focus. The amount of skin on your penis should be secondary to that. But this is just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
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>>9706430
>es but it seems that lasting too long or taking forever to finish
And this is a negative connotation
They last too long
They take forever
Pay attention to the language dumdum.
A normal man wouldn't be able to last uncomfortably long because as the cutfags point out that's not even desirable.

>Cumming too quickly can certainly occur from being circumcised but it doesn't seem to be nearly as common.
This too.

The point is that lasting to the point where it isn't even sex anymore is not "lasting longer".
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>>9706430
i don't know, it's not something i can really accept.
i've heard a lot of restorers say they've had massive gains, to the point where they felt better but still upset. and i can almost know what i'm missing because of how little motion happens.

what hurts most is that i'm one of the few people i know who was cut, almost EVERYONE else was able to avoid it, even in america. so i really do feel like a second class citizen in some ways. maybe i take it to an extreme level but i genuinely feel like there's no point to sex as a cutfag, i literally feel subhuman
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>>9706438
I realize it's a negative. It's why I said it was a common complaint from circumcised guys. You'll never see me trying to defend circumcision. Well at least not infant or child circumcision. Adult circumcision I have no issue with.
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>>9706439
I realize you might not ever be able to accept it. It is a very difficult thing to deal with.

As far restoration goes, you'd be surprised what is possible depending on how far you want to go. If you are willing to far enough you can even give yourself phimosis though the process is a bit extreme from what I've seen.

As far as the not feeling like there's a point to sex I can agree with you on that. Though for me I've never really cared too much about having sex. I enjoy fapping a lot and that's good enough for me.
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>>9706468
not to the point of phimosis, but to the point where i don't feel like i'm moving like a centimeter of skin
i just want flaccid coverage and the ability to naturally pull the skin over my head when i'm erect and fapping

generally though, i don't think i'll really ever get over it. once you accept you're lesser for being cut you never think anything otherwise
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>>9706478
6+ year tugfag here. Keep on tuggin bro. Screw what the other guy said about coming to terms.

Don't ever come to terms with what happened to you. I have a little peace of mind regained from my skin grown, but I can never stop thinking about this. Not after what ive been through and seen others go through. Every day I speak out. Never downplay what was done to us; mutilation plain and simple. Keep swingin on this issue. Don't give those mutilating jewish dogs an inch.

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>>9706478
You seem to have a tight cut from what you are describing. I don't know that that's like. I have a very odd cut that has left me with a lot of my foreskin. If you're familiar with the CI chart I'm close to CI-7 territory when flaccid.

>>9706485
You seem to have misunderstood what I meant about coming to terms. I'm not saying to give up on tugging. I'm saying to try and accept what was done to you and in the process ease the pain. The real pain comes from the mind and being able to think reasonably and rationally as human beings. If we were unthinking apes we wouldn't be bothered the slightest by circumcision as long as we could still manage to blow a load. I'd encourage anyone that is interested in tugging to do so. Imagine having a restored foreskin as well as being at peace with yourself and your situation. It is an incredibly difficult process, but if you are able to achieve that you can truly say you've overcome the system and people that abused you.
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>>9706490
I didnt mean that you implied not to tug either. Nigga please I will never accept what was done to me. To accept is to lie down and be submissive. I will always fight this. Being "at peace" is a bad testimony to others about the mental and physical damage of what was done. If someone says circumcision of children is no big deal, and I retort with "i am at peace with it", no one cares even more.
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>>9706522
Circumcision of children is a huge deal and should never be accepted. By acceptance I mean that you don't let the fact you were circumcised control your life. You don't let it bring you pain every time you see your penis. Never stop opposing infant/child circumcision. If someone is ignorant on the topic and thinking of having their child circumcised inform them about what circumcision truly is. If after they receive the information they choose to still go through with it call them what they are. A child abuser and mutilator and refuse to associate with them anymore.

I'm just saying to accept and love yourself not accept circumcision. To be able to fight the good fight but not have your mind consumed by it when you're alone with your thoughts.That is very hard to do.
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>>9706539
Well you're wasting your words on me. I would never tell another man or woman to "accept" and be happy with their body, or what was left of it. They have every right to be upset if they lost a part of their genitals. What right do I have to tell them how they should feel? Downright disrespectful and minimizing.
I'm done fluffing the thread with pointless text, just wanted to encourage anyone restoring with the photo.
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>>9706556
Wasn't my intention to come off that way at all. If anyone was offended by my words I sincerely apologize. I'll post a thread relevant image and take my leave.
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>>9706485
Incredible results anon

Mine are similar, CI 6. the foreskin restoration subreddit is helpful, all I used were manual methods

restoration made my sex life way better imo, I feel like my dick is mine again
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>>9706485
Why have you been at it for 6 years? That seems like a long time. I just want to get this over with because I really hate having to think every hour about doing this

>>9706490
I've been tugging for a month or 2, I think I'm a CI2 lol. Cut at birth and fucked
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>>9706485
6 years? what age did you start?
i heard it gets MUCH harder as you get older. i'm 26, so like i think i'll have much less time and much worse results than someone who's younger
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>>9706885
>That seems like a long time
I'm not him, but people aren't perfect. You skip days, you forget, it's not like "6 years" means he's spent 16 hours a day for 6 years tugging on his dick.

I feel like the biggest barrier to entry right now is how hard everyone kikes you on devices. They're by far the easiest way to restore, because you can just set them and forget them for a few hours. But the prices across the board are just fucking stupid, 100+ bucks for a hunk of plastic with a silicone cup on it? Even worse is how they're all designed by different people with different dicks, so there's no good way to try them out and see if your dick is like some other guy's dick.

I can't imagine manually pulling on my dick for 5 minutes every hour, my hands have shit to do. But setting up a device? I can do that in 20 seconds.
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>>9706971
>I feel like the biggest barrier to entry right now is how hard everyone kikes you on devices
i've been sticking with manually because from what i've gathered, it has the best results. maybe i'm not doing it enough but whatever.

>I can't imagine manually pulling on my dick for 5 minutes every hour,
i try to do it for 3 minutes every hour 8 times a day. on lazy days i only get about 5 or so. i tried to do more it started to chafe a lot.
ever since i became a neet i've had a lot more agency to do it. lot easier to keep to it when i don't have to try and go to a work bathroom to stretch my dick every hour
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>>9706885
>Why have you been at it for 6 years?
That's how long it took to get to that point in the photo. I am continuing to stretch because I want my skin even longer. Also, that was 90% manual stretching. I have a DTR now. Expensive but worth it imo. handsfree and can be worn at work without anyone knowing. They also focus on mucosal tissue if you want it to - if youll notice most of my growth is outer foreskin. I wish I had tugged more on my inner skin.

>6 years? what age did you start?
I started at around 15. For some it gets harder the older you get, for others it remains the same. Chuck, the maker of the DTR, took around the same time to go from completely tight cut (CI-1) to CI-10 when flaccid. He started as a fully grown man.

I'm an advocate for both manual stretching and devices. If you have willpower, manual is great. It's incredibly high tension in the exact areas you want. Devices takes longer and get painful after an hours' use and have to be adjusted.
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I think i might take another try at tugging. I did manual last year for about 4 months but got bored of it and stopped.

I won't use a device since I have no real way to hide it and the thought of wearing one just doesn't seem like something I'd want to fool with.
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>>9707199
>if youll notice most of my growth is outer foreskin. I wish I had tugged more on my inner skin.
i'm the opposite, i have a lot more inner than outer. like the hair on my outer starts about 1 or 2 cm away from the scar , so i think i got a cut that kept more inner, which i guess isn't bad. i'd want to balance both
fyi i'm doing andre's method, most people seem to suggest sticking with manual until CI4
i don't know if i'm tugging hard enough, but i notice if i tug too hard it becomes kind of painful and starts to chafe, so maybe a device might be not good for me

>>9707207
>I did manual last year for about 4 months but got bored of it and stopped.
keep at it, i beat myself up for giving up the first few times myself. i could have been done but instead i'm doing this way later than most
it's not boredom for me but just starting it. 3 minutes isn't a lot of time but starting it feels annoying as shit.
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>>9707216
More inner is always good. It not only means more sensitivity,but it also means the foreskin you grow back will be thinner, instead of thick and unnatural appearing. It also means when the mucosal skin covers the glans it will go back to it's original function of providing moisture (and smegma if going unwashed is your kink.) Shaft skin won't do that. However, you need to make sure you don't stretch so much inner skin that you end up with a double folded layer of inner skin. Although the sensitivity would be great, it would appear off and probably be uncomfortable. You need outer skin on the outside, inner skin on the inside.
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>>9707216
>keep at it, i beat myself up for giving up the first few times myself. i could have been done but instead I'm doing this way later than most

Well I"m sort of a unique case. I've posted in the thread about how I was left with quite a lot of my foreskin. Inner skin is always hidden and I started around CI-6-CI-7 range. Well in my case a couple of days after I started tugging last year, I discovered that I had some tight skin. What I mean is that when tugging a spot near the end where I had been cut was curled in on itself and resisted being pulled up past the wide part of my glans. I never knew this but I had always noticed that when doing the whole regular fapping motion of pulling the foreskin on and off the glans that it always felt like I was hitting a bump when the glans was fully engorged and it was uncomfortable enough that I never really fapped that way and instead just held the foreskin up on the head and made very small stroking motions when fapping to avoid feeling that bump. Once I pulled it up into position it was super tight. For the first while even being flaccid I could feel the pressure. It would slowly work it's way back down though but consistent tugging kept it up. Getting hard like that was actually painful when it pulled back over the bottom of the glans. Had to be careful. Over time though it has loosed to the point where it is no longer painful and as I mentioned I stopped tugging a while ago.

I also got a late start at tugging. I'm turning 33 in a few days. I"d really like to get some nice overhand if I can. Just hope I can keep it up without quitting.
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>>9707224
i honestly just tug at the scar line and see where the cards land. i actually don't know what i'm stretching, but i think it's more inner by default because i feel it more in the inner
there's a few things i do to explicitly try to focus on the outer, but i don't do it as much

i also don't know if i tug enough. i only do around 20-30 minutes total time under tension a day

>However, you need to make sure you don't stretch so much inner skin that you end up with a double folded layer of inner skin
is that even possible? have people actually done that? i just follow the "tug the scar line"

>>9707227
we might have different goals. my goal is probably to reach your initial CI plus the extra skin that you want as well. you have like a 2 year head start over most of us hah.

>I also got a late start at tugging. I'm turning 33 in a few days. I"d really like to get some nice overhand if I can. Just hope I can keep it up without quitting.
you got a late start but a head start in terms of CI
late fucking hurts and it's a big reason why sometimes i want to give up because i do feel like a failure whenever i realize most people finish restoring by my age, but i find that being "too old" and "too late" at things a painful experience that keeps me up at night, but one that can only be alleviated by achieving goals

but it's all about habit building. fortunately i'm a lazy neet now so i can afford the time to sit on my ass and stretch my dick while watching youtube or something. personally i find that if i do more than 3 minute long sessions. i really emphasize how much less motivated i was when i was doing 6min x 4/day vs 3min x 8 a day. it seems so minor but it actually changed a lot for me
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>>9707233
I'm going to start back up today. Just did a 3 minute tug. For me I just pulling and the top for 30 seconds, then the bottom and alternate until I've reached 3 minutes. So 3 times for top and bottom. I don't have a social life at all and a low paying job that offers me tons of free time so I have lots of time to tug if I want to right now.

The goal I have in mind is to be able to have the foreskin stay up when I get an erection. I can already do that now except when standing where if I get anything past a semi the skin peels back.
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>>9709196
Great results doods.
I've always been afraid of air restoration as the outward pressure scares me into thinking it will make the foreskin loose and blanket-like.
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>>9705636
Same, dude. Ive seen that it often happens with cut guys.
>>9709204
That looks damn good. GJ.
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>>9709337
>Same, dude. Ive seen that it often happens with cut guys.
for cut people who wish they weren't cut i think it's kind of obvious how easy it is to develop a foreskin fetish.
it's very easy to let these feelings since rage, jealousy, and sexuality are probably the 3 most powerful human emotions and this is basically an overlap of all three in one

>>9709204
christ, i'm still stuck at a ci2, i'm never getting flaccid coverage am i....
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>>9709337
>>9710248
so why isn't it more widely reported that some men get a foreskin fetish? i typically just fap to solo men nowadays but i still don't feel like it's an actual real attraction to men since it's just a dick centric fetish.
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>>9710261
>so why isn't it more widely reported that some men get a foreskin fetish?
i don't think it's presented as a fetish many people in the world still cut their infant males at birth so the prevailing mindset is this >>9682862
the question is directed towards the women "do you have a preference for cut or uncut" which is mostly cultural.
like foot fetish is reported to be common because the data says men are into women's feet. there's probably not as much surveys asking straight men "what kind of dicks are you into"

>i typically just fap to solo men nowadays but i still don't feel like it's an actual real attraction to men since it's just a dick centric fetish.
there's still the wiring in the brain that says "dick = sexy" because you have the idea that something touching your own dick is sexy. it doesn't mean you're into men, a man is way more than just a dick and you could be turned off by everything else as well
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>>9710324
>it doesn't mean you're into men, a man is way more than just a dick and you could be turned off by everything else as well
yeah i am. i guess i can just call myself heavily straight leaning bi and just not date men.
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>>9710331
as long as you're not hurting anyone it doesn't really matter what you call yourself.

this is /d/, half of us would become girls with dicks if we had the choice. if we all could have our ideal bodies sexual labels wouldn't fucking matter.
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>>9710335
i too would become a girl with a 15" dick if i could.
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>>9710261
Massive amounts of cope, brainwashing, and normalization of the mutilated penis.
Most people don't think too heavily about the details of a penis, or view it as anything besides a means to an end, that being getting fucked by it, and the circumsized penis has been inserted as the default in most porn. When many people think about a penis casually, it is the image of a circumcized one they get.
Douse that in the skittishness and fear a lot of retards have for appreciating and admiring a penis, for fear of catching the gay and surely dying as a result, and you have the recipe for the current state of affairs.

I'll say, there is a bit of a blessing embedded in this for people who are cut; your penis is "normal" unless your cock mangler was hitting the manischewitz earlier that day before he started prowling the maternity ward. As someone with an uncut penis, having to justify, explain, and defend it gets tiresome, too, and the fucking worst are people who say it's not too late to join the genital mutilation club.

>>9705636
I mean, I feel you on liking the penis much more than the man it is attached to, most of why I like futa and traps, and I invariably prefer uncut ones, but I think you're worrying too much over it. Do what you want and like. I'm lucky enough to live in a place where cuteboys/trans/whatever aren't super super rare, so I've been able to enjoy some quality time with cocks without a masculine form attached to it, and it's pretty fucking awesome blowing and tonging a super adorable one that doesn't retract all the way when hard. I can't say if that's for you, but it's not some pandora's box that will ruin you for opening it. If you get an opportunity, just go for it. The worst that can happen is you stop wondering about it and feel confident in it just being a fantasy. The best that can happen is you get the time of your fucking life, and get it again and again.
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>>9710351
>but it's not some pandora's box that will ruin you for opening it. If you get an opportunity, just go for it. The worst that can happen is you stop wondering about it and feel confident in it just being a fantasy.
that's pretty much the mindset i have. if i ever encounter someone who is std free and okay with me being bi curious and wanting to try shit on them regret free i'll most likely do it. if i like it then i guess i'll know my answer.
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>>9710351
>and the fucking worst are people who say it's not too late to join the genital mutilation club.

ew dont hang out with subhumans like that. it lowers your thinking capacity hanging out with ignorance
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>>9710351
one of the weirdest things for me honestly is i know its awful to admit but i really find it hard to believe someone who is actually attracted to dicks would bother looking at cut ones when plenty of stuff with uncut guys exists now. like the minute i found out the difference between the two during puberty i flatout just stopped watching stuff with cut guys, as a cut guy myself, and that makes sense for me as someone who likes dicks because an uncut dick is just how a dick is SUPPOSED to look like and act. foreskin is incredibly sexy to me, and how much better uncut glans generally look, the entire action of watching the foreskin interact with the glans is mesmerizing and turns me on. even watching a guy pull it back taut and the spaces between the inner foreskin and glans is hot to me. i love seeing how much difference in variation there is for foreskin types and how they look while fapping. its a no brainer for me at least. it's probably a little bit of an unhealthy obsession in my case though lol.
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>>9709328
air or saline are typically used for breast tissue expansion for cancer patients and the like, it's a very proven method

gotta use a spot of blenderm tape to ensure no air goes up the urethra causing a UTI, reddit and the device makers are unironically helpful if you need a form check or have questions

>>9710248
post your routine and I will give you advice if you want
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>>9710639
>post your routine and I will give you advice if you want
nothing too insane, i'm just doing manual method 3 for 24 minutes a day. it's hard to really give a good description besides that. i feel like i'm focusing almost entirely on the inner by this method though, and due to the lack of my outer
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>>9710701
>How long have you been tugging? How long with no progress? If you're tugging directly on at the scar line, you will get an even amount of inner and outer skin.
i haven't been tugging for a while, it took a while for me to actually work up the discipline to stick to the routine, so i'd say a few months of lazy on and off, and a month of consistently doing it for at least 20 minutes

>Are you doing 24 minutes a day in a row? Or hourly sessions?
over the day on the hour

>and have some redness and slight soreness by the end of the day,
my skin always looks a bit red, primarily where i pinch it but i don't feel any soreness
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>>9710742
Different anon here. I was on a pretty consistent schedule for around 3-4 months last year but I was only tugging for 3 minutes every 2-3 hours. I then got bored and stopped for about 5 months and now I'm going to try to start back up.

I've heard that it can be a very slow process for some people. Like even for people that are very dedicated and consistent it can take 2-3 years to achieve the results they want. If you aren't dedicated and take lots of breaks it can take much longer. Lots of factors involved such as lifestyle and genetics.
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>>9710833
>Different anon here. I was on a pretty consistent schedule for around 3-4 months last year but I was only tugging for 3 minutes every 2-3 hours.
i'm the "try to get 3 minutes an hour" anon. i often just zone out and forget to do it and try to catch up at the end of the day by just doing 3 minutes every 30 minutes when i realize its almost time for me to sleep

>I've heard that it can be a very slow process for some people.
it might be slow for me. but since i'm so bothered by it i can either do something about it even though i'm going to be late or let it get the best of me. i'm going to complain either way, in this case it is better to be subpar than a complete failure.

>Lots of factors involved such as lifestyle and genetics.
i've been trying to sleep and eat better. i still drink too much coffee but it's quite frankly an addiction
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>>9710890
I find it boring to do. And since it's such a slow process you can go long periods of time and not notice any difference so it's hard to keep up motivation.

I don't have a very good diet myself and I like to stay up too late and not get a lot of sleep usually. Though in my case I'm not the same position as a lot of cut guys. See my earlier post.>>9707227 For me it's mostly just for personal aesthetic reasons since I'm a virgin and I probably always will be. I think it would just be kind of neat to have a longer foreskin. This hurts my motivation a lot though since I'm not doing it out of a desire to grow out a foreskin since I still have one.
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>>9710915
>I find it boring to do.
i can't do more than 3 minutes without losing interest. even doing it on the hour, i've been supposed to do it for the past few hours but i just didn't want to

>And since it's such a slow process you can go long periods of time and not notice any difference so it's hard to keep up motivation.
agreed. my new mindset is that it's only half an hour of my life on something that's not at all mentally or physically exhausting. i'm practically throwing away time if i don't do it

it's a reflection of my own weakness if i shitpost or zone out instead of tugging. if i can't do this i can't do any habit right
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question for uncutfags, when you're erect, does your dick ever feel "tight"
i can't describe the feeling but if i'm too hard my dick just feels uncomfortable as a cutfag
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>>9711504
I guess sometimes if I'm really hard? It's at the very base of my dick where I feel it and it's not very often.
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i wish i still had foreskin
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>>9711504
I fully understand what you mean, but, no, that feeling of tightness and discomfort doesn't physically occur for me, as someone who's intact.

I'm going to assume that you have a high and tight circumcision, and as a result, you don't have enough skin left to compensate for the growth during erection. The higher and tighter the circumcision, the worse the particular issue becomes.
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>>9712064
not them but i'm tight and low, i think? i wasn't cut at infancy, and i have always fapped dry with just my shaft skin. flaccid though i don't have any coverage at all, but i can completely cover my head with my shaft skin if i try flaccid and i can cover a little of the bottom of my head erect. does that mean my inner foreskin wasn't taken away as much or what? i never quite got a grasp on how different the types of circumcision can be.
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>>9712064
i don't know. mine looks looser than most people's but it feels quite tight
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>>9711504
No, and I have some relatively advanced phimosis, where if I'm already hard, it won't peel back. No tightness at all.
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>>9712097
>does that mean my inner foreskin wasn't taken away as much or what?
If I'm not mistaken, I believe all tight circumcisions take away most of the inner foreskin, whether high or low, whereas all loose circumcision take away as little as possible. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
>>9712199
I see. Well, I have no idea. Could it just be that visually it looks loose, but in reality is tight???
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>>9712655
>I see. Well, I have no idea. Could it just be that visually it looks loose, but in reality is tight???
i'm not sure. i think it's tight, but americans cut their fucking kids really tight in general so it's like comparing slightly fucked to really fucked
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>>9712969
Going just off of porn it seems that tight cuts are common in America though that is only a pretty small sample of guys. I'm American and I don't know how I got to keep so much of my foreskin.

I didn't find out about circumcision or the fact I was circumcised until I was 20. I remember looking at pics of circumcised penises and reading about how circumcision was supposed to permanently expose the glans and wondered why my glans had skin covering it when I was soft and how I could move the skin up and cover most of the glans with skin even when erect. I thought it was odd but honestly forgot about it and didn't think about circumcision at all for a long time. Then a few years ago I saw an in depth discussion about it and examined my penis more closely. I realized how much I made use of my foreskin when fapping. I can't imagine edging and cooming without it. Also the feeling when getting erect and feeling the skin peel back onto the shaft is really pleasant.

Honestly it's really weird when I'm browsing a porn thread and see guys getting a handjob or jerking to finish and the only thing moving is their hand because of how tight they are cut. If you are able to move your skin up and cover any of the glans when erect you don't have a tight cut. Tight cuts usually need to stretch to cover any of the glans even when flaccid though whether you are a grower or a shower does have an effect on this. Tightly cut growers have it the worst for obvious reasons. Those are the guys that complain about the skin tearing and bleeding when erect because of how tightly it is being stretched.
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>>9713060
>I didn't find out about circumcision or the fact I was circumcised until I was 20.
almost all the material i found about fapping was for uncut dicks. and that's how i realized something was wrong becasue i was physically unable to do any fapping technique i encountered. i kept trying to restore but i kept giving up because even thinking about being circumsized brings bad emotions
it doesn't help that the only girls i even talked to about sex stuff were european, so they just felt sorry for me for being cut

>Also the feeling when getting erect and feeling the skin peel back onto the shaft is really pleasant.
yeah, never felt that. i feel it slightly because it touches the bottom, it's not really pleasant but it's mildly pleasant
i have just enough to know what i'm missing out on

>Honestly it's really weird when I'm browsing a porn thread and see guys getting a handjob or jerking to finish and the only thing moving is their hand because of how tight they are cut. If you are able to move your skin up and cover any of the glans when erect you don't have a tight cut.
yeah that's the worst part. the most natural thing i can do is tug one or two centimeters of skin in the shaft, it takes considerable effort to move the little skin i have over the glans
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>>9706971
As far as I know the elastic:plastic deformation curve ticks over at ~20 minutes for most tissues. that means if you're not tugging for at least 20 minutes, most of that force will be elastic (snap back to riginal shape) not plastic (induced gropwth, hold applied shape).
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>>9713425
20 minutes continuously?
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>>9713460
Yes.
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>>9705636
Same. I grew up uncut in the US.

Realistically though, it makes perfect sense. Jerking off I'm not just rushing to the end, I'm really exploring and making use of the cock to provide pleasure to the man attached to it, ie, me. So I see dick in general the same way, an instrument of giving and receiving pleasure. However if it's not mine I have no interest in what it's attached to, nor do I want to pleasure or connect with a man.

Phallus is also obviously quite aesthetic. Do people really look at their dick and think "whoa this thing is ugly I better hide it inside of this pussy!!" Why would you want to put something ugly inside of something attractive? The fear and the whole mindset makes no sense. Maybe that's a circumcised thing.
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>>9715157
>Jerking off I'm not just rushing to the end
a lot of men, especially circumsized ones do that. the range of motion on a cut dick is really upsetting.
since i can't pull up my skin to my head without discomfort, i find that jerking off normally i can't take it slow, i have to do other things to take it slow
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>>9715190
Try a frankincense essential oil in jojoba as lube.
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>>9715195
Umm, why?
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Poor makoto, no wonder why she is always angry. Would still marry her though.
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what really sucks about being cut is how close the hair is to my scar line
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>>9716749
Penoscrotal webbing, I assume?
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>>9716777
if that's the same as "turkey neck" yes, it's sadly very common with cutfags
there are so many side effects of being cut, so many differences that make you feel there's something wrong with your dick
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>>9715157
>Jerking off I'm not just rushing to the end
>>9715190
Aye. It's a tragedy to not be able to draw it out or enjoy it. Sometimes, sure, just getting it over with is for the best, you got shit to do, but there is really, really nothing like taking it slow, doing it right, and spending 45, 70 minutes in the morning on a weekend treating yourself.
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>>9716951
>tfw when I usually edge for around 2 hours every time I fap and when super horny it feels too good and I don't want to finish and can go for 6+ hours

I have cut back on frequency though. I used to fap once a day every single day for many years but now I only fap 1 or 2 times a week.
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>>9716791
Yeah, I imagine we're talking about the same thing where the scrotal tissue gets pulled up higher on to the shaft to try to compensate for the lack of foreskin, in an attempt to try to cover the glans like it's supposed to be covered.
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>>9716964
That's good, though.
Masturbating(or sex) really does take a lot out of you; I don't buy in to the whole sexual energy thing, it's just a lot of fatigue to your mind and body, and doing it all the time reduces your sensitivity to it anyways. Doin it once a week or so, but doing it well is way better than doing a shitty one every day.
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>>9689743
sauce
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>>9716951
i can drag it out, but like i think my brain is so orgasm focused because that feeling is still much better than edging or dragging it out

>>9717012
i don't body hair besides my head hair in general so seeing it there makes me feel gross
>in an attempt to try to cover the glans like it's supposed to be covered.
doesn't even get close, i think it's just tension

>>9717179
even if it isn't energy or magic i think fapping a lot just to "get it over with" ruins your faps because you train your brain to think "no fun in sex, just coom"
at least that's what i think it did for me
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>>9716749
this slowly resolved itself when I restored, but good god I hate hairy shaft. It made me feel better knowing that even some uncut people have hair there.
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>>9717957
I think a lot of people that are cut tend to be too harsh on their own penis and blame everything they don't like about it on circumcision. But guys should take a step back and realize that intact guys can have some of the same or similar issues. Hairy shaft can happen to intact guys. Penescrotal webbing can also be congenital and there are intact guys that have that issue. I think cut guys shouldn't let themselves get caught up in the idea that if only they weren't cut they would be 100% content with it and they would have no insecurities about it.

Restoration can resolve of the main issues of circumcision which is painfully tight erections and permanently exposed glans and inner foreskin.

>>9717179
I am glad I cut back to 1 or times a week. I found out that masturbation has an effect on the brain. When I was a child I would have vivid dreams. I can still remember a lot of those dreams today. Then when I was a teenager they stopped happening and my dreams became very fuzzy and infrequent. Then many years later as an adult when I started cutting back on my fapping I suddenly started having vivid dreams again. So cooming everyday absolutely affects the brain in some way. So now I get to blow bigger loads and have better orgasms as well as having vivid dreams again. It's better all around.
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>>9716340
Softens the skin and makes nerves more sensitive.
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>>9717979
>I think a lot of people that are cut tend to be too harsh on their own penis and blame everything they don't like about it on circumcision.
i think those are the little things that just add insult to injury. obviously touching the area and feeling insensitive skin makes me feel subhuman. not to mention i talked to a lot of euro girls who felt sorry for me which made me feel even worse
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I wish these albatross cocks were real where I could make my foreskin long AND thick
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>>9719241
Well, have you looked into things you can use topically to make it more sensitive? Have you looked into the nutrition and physiology of nerve health and regeneration?
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>>9679247
The only potential issue with foreskin is even if you have a long foreskin and frenulum, when you pull it back no matter how tightly, you're either pulling way too hard on the frenulum or there's still a pronounced ridge where the rigid band has not fully flattened out. I think it'd be pretty hot to be able to like, pull my foreskin back and have it all sort of meld into my shaft. So it'd be like a tight circumcision but keeping all of the nerves and being able to revert back. Holding your foreskin back does have a unique sensual profile. If I wanted the gliding and so on action I just wouldn't enter that state. Reminds me of a dream I had where I could shapeshift actually.
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>>9720371
>Have you looked into the nutrition and physiology of nerve health and regeneration?
i have not. i have fixated mostly on the physical act of restoration. i don't know much besides tug and sleep well
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>>9720511
There's a ton of stuff that goes into maintainence (and growth) of skin. Basically, you jsut want to have very good nutrition. However in particular B-vitamins are big for nerves, L-glutamine, vitamin C and glycine are important for skin growth. People don't realize vitamin C is used in collagen synthesis. Zinc, copper, manganese, are all part of your superoxide dismutase systems, which help with stable growth.

Anyway, just eat well. Sweet potato for vitamin A, brazil nuts for selenium, mushrooms for nerve health. Common sense stuff. I use purebulk for raw minerals and so on.
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>>9700168
I'm uncut and I have a super massive fetish for circumcision related stuff / circumcised dicks. It's pretty much how you explain it. It's also funny how people bring up the "normal penises are a fetish now?" argument when what's normal is completely dependent on where you live. My country does not routinely circumcise, whereas if you were in the US, it's almost comical how a normal penis is one without foreskin.
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>>9682862
I have always had a phimosis dick and thought it was normal. It was a reality shock when I discovered people could pull the foreskin and expose the glans. So I still think uncut/phimosis dick is hotter, because that's the one I have
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>>9720911
Okay, your circumcision/circumcised penis fetish is really gross to me and you should stop having it as one of your fetishes, because... I mean, yuck, gross... My problem with people saying "normal penises are a fetish now?" is the lack of understanding of the definition of the word "fetish". However, when they say "normal penises", they're simply talking about the default, natural state of the penis (that being intact, not circumcised, or "uncircumcised"), rather than a penis whose normal status is dependent on culture. So, yeah, just keep in mind that when they use the word "normal", they mean "the default state of the penis", and not "what is normal based on where you're from". But enough semantics...
>>9721038
I agree. I love phimotic dicks. I think dicks look way better when the foreskin still fully covers the glans. I hate people who think that the foreskin should be retracted and just straight up neglected, like as if it's not even there or like it's irrelevant, when it isn't. The foreskin is the main attraction, in my books. The glans is completely secondary. Fuck the glans, the foreskin is better. :)
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>>9720376
This is going to sound really weird but I can kind of switch back and forth like this to an extent. I've posted in these threads about my odd cut where not a lot was taken off. I'm not entirely sure how it works but basically when soft my glans is mostly covered but I can pull my foreskin forward and it will squeeze up further over the glans and cover nearly all of it. If I get erect and let the foreskin peel itself back like this then my foreskin bunches up behind the head and really resists being pulled back further. It is uncomfortable to pull it back and expose the area behind the glans because of how much it resists. I'm assuming because I still have some of my frenulum left. Now if I slide the foreskin back up onto the glans while erect the skin kind of rolls in on itself and the narrowest area of the foreskin stays behind the glans if I don't force it up. After doing this I'm able to pull it back completely flat onto the shaft and sort of achieve the typical cut look though it isn't tight if I don't hold it back due to the amount of foreskin I have. I have no idea how this happens. I've tried to understand what exactly is going on with my foreskin but I can't seem to figure it out. It's pretty neat. I guess my penis isn't "normal" by any definition.

>>9721096
It took me a long time to realize it but I've realized that the way I fap has always made use of my foreskin first and glans second. I still stimulate the glans but only through the foreskin and all of my edging techniques involve the foreskin. For instance when I fap I do so by hold the foreskin as far up over the glans as I can and then use short jerking motions while pinching some of my foreskin between my thumb and index finger and rubbing it. Also when I blow my load my glans gets super sensitive and without my foreskin it would be hard to get keep going at the same pace of fapping but the foreskin doesn't bother it so I'm able to keep going right through my orgasm which I like doing.
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>>9700916
I sympathize with your fetish (u c wat I did thar?) for using words properly, but you have to understand that language is not some rigid, inflexible thing. Words have literal, dictionary definitions (the "denotation"), and also meanings associated with them through common usage (the "connotation"), and both are capable of changing over time as language evolves. The word "fetish" has several dictionary definitions (pulling from Merriam-Webster here). The first (and at one point the only) definition is
>an object (such as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner
If we want to be as strict as possible about using words for their intended meanings, this is the only correct definition of "fetish". That is what the term originally referred to, and every other definition is a corruption or misappropriation. It would be correct, in your case, to use a term like "sexual obsession". But that's retarded, right? Because language is flexible.

Let's take a look at another definition of the word, the one you're making use of here.
>an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression
So no. A fetish is not
>merely being obsessed with something to an extreme or abnormal degree
In a (slightly less) strict sense, if your "fetish" is not psychologically necessary for you to get off, it's not a fetish. If you can masturbate to orgasm without thinking about feet or looking at a picture of feet, you do not have a foot fetish. But again, that's retarded, right? Because the common usage of the word "fetish" has come to mean something slightly different from that.

Polite sage for linguistic ranting.
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>>9721096
I'm against circumcision on infants, and I don't think there's a real reason to do it outside of super rare health reasons(most of which are never really the case for it) It's a fetish, stop moralfagging dipshit.
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>>9721212
>The word "fetish" has several dictionary definitions
>Only uses 2 definitions and ignores the others in an attempt to prove me wrong about something that I'm not even wrong about.
>Unironically thinks he's teaching me a valuable lesson, when in reality, not only is he not, but he also just comes across as a pseudo-intellectual tryhard.
Talk about being unnecessarily pedantic. Like, literally nothing you said was even necessary to say at all. It was completely redundant. It's like you just decided to say something, simply for the sake of saying it.

>>9721292
Except I'm not moralfagging, I'm just telling you that you're a fucking weird, gross cunt for being into something that's really weird to be into. That's all. Stop incorrectly assuming my motives.
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>>9720911
>when what's normal is completely dependent on where you live
people against it are extremely vocal about it. they don't want it to be normal in any culture. it's an intense feeling of anger that never leaves you. sometimes when my parents tell me they love me i look at them and want to spit in their face because they had me cut even though it's not their fault, they just didn't care or put any thought into the decision and were tricked by a system

you don't ever get over it. i know i'm crazy but MANY cut men think the same way. anyone cut that doesn't want to be cut will become an angry mess whenever the topic comes up. so of course these threads are going to attract it. men who were cut often feel like human garbage regardless of the cultural norm

so yeah we do shit up the thread, but it's because this topic is so close to some people in more than just a fetish way. people who are cut that don't want to be cut believe their dicks are inferior. an uncut person with a circ fetish to us feels like someone who is superior looking down at the inferiors

idk i'm rageposting but honestly if you look you'll find that it's not just me, a lot of men hate their bodies for being cut the same way i do. i can't talk to my friends without feeling like shit knowing that i'm the only cutfag since i was the only american
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>Thread devolves into Americans ranting about their barbaric practice

Feels good to be a yuro
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>>9721321
>Except I'm not moralfagging, I'm just telling you that you're a fucking weird, gross cunt for being into something that's really weird to be into. That's all. Stop incorrectly assuming my motives.
Not him, but if only fetishes worked that way.
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>>9721321
>I'm just telling you that you're a fucking weird, gross cunt for being into something that's really weird to be into

Where do you think you are, moron? Either way, keep up that wishy washy circular logic, it's very entertaining.
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>>9699657
That's not how it works, moron. "Foreskin stretching" is a scam. It's not the same tissue as the rest of your dick, you can't just try to create excess skin. Not to mention that shit can fuck up your dick. Even in a best case scenario, you haven't actually restored any foreskin. You've just made the regular skin floppy and deformed enough to cover your dickhead.
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>>9721322
I am in fact aware of the existence of people with a circumcised penis who are unhappy with it, anon..I'm sorry I implied that it was normal, I meant normalized , which to me is a more negative connotation in that context than you might have realized. However, I do not have this fetish solely because I look down upon cut penises. In most cases it's actually the opposite, foreskin humiliation is a thing, you know.

However, if it ever so happens that one is indeed happy with a circumcised penis (and they exist just the same way people who are traumatized by it do, mostly because of ignorance though), I don't believe retroactively traumatizing yourself is the solution to the problem. The solution is stopping it from happening to others who had no say in it, who may feel similarly about it one day.

And I understand people getting emotional over this. It's not so detached a fetish as a bunch of giantesses crushing you, for example, it happens in real life and is fucked up. Don't feel bad talking about it. Maybe posting some images would be nice though.
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>>9721321
You'd prefer we look at some other dictionary definitions for "fetish"? Alright.
>an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion
>broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence
>a rite or cult of fetish worshippers
>see also: fixation
i.e.
>a persistent concentration of libidinal energies upon objects characteristic of psychosexual stages of development preceding the genital stage
>stereotyped behavior (as in response to frustration)
>an obsessive or unhealthy preoccupation or attachment

Any of those sound any better to you? Should we go with the first one, making it impossible to have a fetish for an act? No doggy-style fetishes allowed? Any actual rebuttal of my arguments other than "You're being pedantic"?

>>9721457
While you're correct that foreskin restoration doesn't actually bring back what was lost, there is something to be said for it. For one, having the glans covered *is* restoring some of the function of your foreskin. That is part of the purpose the foreskin serves. Second, having that excess skin available for an erection can provide some gliding motion, as an intact foreskin would, and relieve tightness in guys who have issues with tight skin during erections. No one who actually understands the process believes that foreskin restoration brings back what was lost, but foreskin restoration is a much easier term to use than "stretching the remaining foreskin so it provides slack during an erection and covers the glans".
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>>9721096
>Fuck the glans, the foreskin is better. :)
clearly you haven't seen any nice glans then. some are downright gorgeous and mouthwatering on uncut guys. like a nice proportional glans on an already huge cock is fucking the best and so hot. all my favourite dicks i follow have glans i obsess over.
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>>9721502
yeah, apparently being cut shrinks the glans ever so slightly. i wish mine were bigger
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>>9721563
some dudes also just have tiny and or weird shaped glans so it would be tough to tell. i really enjoy the variations that occur. i've been attracted to all sorts of glans honestly. the way the glans reacts with the foreskin though when guys fap is so hot though i will admit. i could watch uncut men fap for days.
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>>9721502
No, I've seen plenty of nice glans. I just think that the foreskin is the sexier and more arousing part of the penis. Plus, it's just that I care more about the foreskin than the glans and I want people to stop neglecting the foreskin in favour of the glans. Part of the reason I hold this opinion is because it's a form of retaliation towards people like you who say the same shit you just did. Treating the foreskin like it's somehow unimportant or lesser than the glans, when it isn't.

Also, you clearly love uncut dicks... Well, the thing that makes an uncut dick an uncut dick is the foreskin, right? So, why all the obsession over the glans then? Surely you should be obsessing over the foreskin. I mean, shit, you might as well just be looking at circumcised dicks at that point. At least then the glans that you love so much is exposed at all times.

Anyway, while, our preferences are subjective, I do still think that my opinion on the matter is massively superior to yours.
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>>9721411
>Where do you think you are, moron?
First of all, you're the only moron here, buddy.
>Inb4 No u.
And secondly, just because this is 4chan, it doesn't make you any less of a weird cunt for being into something that's weird. What a retarded justification.

Also, you don't know what circular logic is. Don't ever use that term again if you're not even gonna use it correctly in the first place.

>>9721484.
>an obsessive or unhealthy preoccupation or attachment
Uh, yeah, that's pretty much what I said to begin with, dickhead. Fixation works the best, though.

>Should we go with the first one, making it impossible to have a fetish for an act?
That's not my position, dude. You were who was trying to limit the definition, not me. Don't try to twist it around. And no, clearly we should just go with the one that proves me right.

Seriously, why did you even bother with this in the first place? It was so fucking pointless. And what's with your undeserved smug attitude? You do realize that you're in no position to talk down to me, right? Especially when you're not even winning the argument.

>Any actual rebuttal of my arguments other than "You're being pedantic"?
But you literally are just being pedantic, though. Like, your biggest problem is that you seem to be too fixated on the specific wording used and won't allow for any simplification of the definition or alternative interpretation through the use of related words which mean pretty much the exact same thing. Like, it's so fucking pedantic and unnecessary, dude. Just knock it off.

Anyway, I'm right by definition, one which you provided, this argument is pointless, and you should stop wasting my time.
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>>9722060
I'm not sure there's a more apt expression to describe this situation than "pot calling the kettle black". You told that first anon that he was wrong when he tried to use a widely accepted (if strictly incorrect) definition of the word "fetish". If you went out and told someone "I have a fetish for penis-in-vagina sex" they would look at you like you were crazy. You are being pedantic by insisting that the term can only be used in its denotational sense. I took that a step further, to try to show why that's dumb. I took a "smug attitude" because you're acting like a prick. Oh, sorry, that's not literally what the word prick means, let me try again. You're acting rude and generally hostile. I'll gladly stop wasting time and shitting up the thread, since you seem intent on continuing as you are.
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>>9721963
i like uncut dicks more partly because the glans DO look so much better on uncut dicks, always. some dicks with the foreskin completely up look very boring, some look good, but generally i want to see pictures or a video of foreskin up and down. i've been primarily fapping to uncut dicks for shit.. close to 15 years at this point. i don't like cut dicks at all visually personally, they don't do it for me but thats just a porn preference. if i ever was intimate with a guy and he whipped out a cut dick though i'm not going to throw up and tell him no because ultimately it probably wasn't the dude's choice. its still a dick, but in the fantasy that is porn i'm always going to seek out and like uncut ones.
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Alright, survey question.
Which do you prefer?
Total phimosis: The glans is not exposed at all while hard and at rest; the foreskin retains its "tip"
Partial phimosis: Foreskin peels back only partially, exposing up to roughly half the glans
Minor phimosis: Foreskin peels completely past the glans, and may allow a tiny bit of the glans to peak out while soft, or a tiny bit hard
Minimal/no phimosis: Foreskin does not entirely cover the glans even while flaccid, and may be strained while hard
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>>9722060
>First of all, you're the only moron here, buddy.
Okay
>And secondly, just because this is 4chan, it doesn't make you any less of a weird cunt for being into something that's weird. What a retarded justification.
A board specifically meant for fringe content (ever notice?) , and yet here you are, lacking self awareness to an astounding degree, pretending that it is your fetish that is "normal". So i'll ask again, where do you think you are? It's as if you came here to be mad.
>Also, you don't know what circular logic is. Don't ever use that term again if you're not even gonna use it correctly in the first place.
>"I'm just telling you that you're a fucking weird, gross cunt for being into something that's really weird to be into"
It's possible you've never had to substantiate anything in your life at all. For someone so supposedly descriptive with their definitions and languages, you ironically have now clue what the term means.
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>>9722096
>You told that first anon that he was wrong when he tried to use a widely accepted (if strictly incorrect) definition of the word "fetish".
You mean, I corrected his mistake in a perfectly valid and non-pedantic way, unlike you.
>If you went out and told someone "I have a fetish for penis-in-vagina sex" they would look at you like you were crazy.
Yes, because they're retarded and don't understand what the word means. That's why I thoroughly explained what the word means.
>You are being pedantic by insisting that the term can only be used in its denotational sense.
Except I'm not insisting that, I'm literally doing the exact opposite. You just assumed that, based off of your misinterpretation of ONE thing that I said. I'm the one going "Hey, there are multiple definitions of the word, and they don't have to be 100% exact in every way. You can be a little loose with their meanings." In fact, you didn't even bring up the definition that I was using until I pointed out that there are more definitions than the ones you used. This whole thing started simply because YOU made an incorrect assumption about what I think.
>I took that a step further, to try to show why that's dumb.
Except, again, I don't think that and you simply decided to make an unnecessary point against what I said because you made an incorrect assumption about what I think, based entirely off of me saying ONE THING. You basically saw what I said and went "Gasp! He clearly didn't even imply in any way that he thinks there's only one definition of this word and that it can only be used in this one particular way, that must totally mean that he IS implying that and that he DOES think it can only mean this one particular thing and can only be used in this one particular way." That's literally what you did.
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>>9722096
>I took a "smug attitude" because you're acting like a prick. Oh, sorry, that's not literally what the word prick means, let me try again. You're acting rude and generally hostile.
No need for the quotation marks, you DO have a smug attitude, and an undeserved one at that. And stop misrepresenting me like as if I'M the one who thinks words can only be used in a strict sense, when I very clearly think the opposite. Not only do you not even understand my position on the matter, but it's like you don't even understand your own. You're literally making arguments against things that I don't even think... What is wrong with you, you mental case?
>>9722242
Okay, cool, you have your preference and I think differently on the matter. No more needs to be said. :)
>>9722298
I prefer the foreskin fully covering the glans at all times, erect or flaccid, since I think it looks better like that and is visually more interesting/arousing.
>>9722355
You say I lack self-awareness, yet you don't even understand the point I'm making.
>pretending that it is your fetish that is "normal"
But liking uncut dicks and foreskin IS normal, since that's the default thing that people are SUPPOSED to like. No different than people liking tits or attractive faces. So, yes, my fetish is normal, actually. YOUR FETISH on the other hand ISN'T NORMAL, because it involves the mutilation of flesh, something that human beings should be intrinsically disgusted by. People aren't SUPPOSED to like circumcision or circumcised dicks, they're supposed to be DISGUSTED by them because of what it entails, and that's why it's weird for you to like it. Our fetishes aren't equal. Mine is normal and yours is fucking weird as shit. Do you get it now? I'm simply telling you that you're weird for liking something that has been mutilated, because it goes against human nature and you're intrinsically not supposed to like something like that. Have I made it clear for you now? Do you see why it's not circular logic?
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>>9722460
>Do you see why it's not circular logic?
He probably can't. Being a relativist, the absolute is lost to him.
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>But liking uncut dicks and foreskin IS normal, since that's the default thing that people are SUPPOSED to like
Sure. I would say that, were it not for the fact that aspects of this fetish include
smegmaposting like >>9719457
>>9720141.I don't personally dislike that, but it's dishonest to say it's a normal fetish because you choose to ignore the nuances of what it includes, that it doesn't deviate from what's considered normal. You can insert whatever values you have about foreskin and normalcy , or how being into circumcised penises is disgusting, for me the only relevant aspect of this conversation is whether or not this fetish bleeds into real life for it to have any real moral implication. It's why I'm okay with it as a fetish but not when it's done to people against their will. It's why we can have violence in our media or games, because there's a capacity in "normal" humans to separate it from what's real. It's just insane I have to explain this to someone on /d/ of all places. Maybe consider posting in /h/. Congrats on being able to substantiate your position though. Still lmaoing at the fact that you denied moralfagging, with all that hilarious caps lock abuse for emphasis and muh human nature.
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>>9722298
Total, though I can really appreciate the partial look, where you can really see the contrast.
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>>9722511
>Sure. I would say that, were it not for the fact that aspects of this fetish include
smegmaposting like.
Well , that's a false equivalence then, because you're now equating the foreskin itself to things that are merely RELATED to foreskin.

>I don't personally dislike that, but it's dishonest to say it's a normal fetish because you choose to ignore the nuances of what it includes, that it doesn't deviate from what's considered normal.
No, what's dishonest is you trying to equate liking something normal, like foreskin, to liking something like smegma, just because the two are often associated with each other. Having a smegma fetish isn't the same as having a foreskin fetish! Liking foreskin is normal, liking smegma is not. They're separate things and should therefore be treated separately. Seriously, why are you so desperate on trying to be right about this point of normalcy?

>for me the only relevant aspect of this conversation is whether or not this fetish bleeds into real life for it to have any real moral implication. It's why I'm okay with it as a fetish but not when it's done to people against their will. It's why we can have violence in our media or games, because there's a capacity in "normal" humans to separate it from what's real. It's just insane I have to explain this to someone on /d/ of all places.
Okay, seriously, will you just stop intentionally misrepresenting my position? I don't give a fuck about the moral aspect of your fetish or the real life implications of it, I just think you're a fucking weird cunt for being into something that's abnormal to be into. That's it. Nothing more than that. I would have the same reaction if your were into shit or having women squirt their period blood on to your face. There's no morality attached to my disgust, I just think it's fucking gross, that's all. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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>>9722511
>Congrats on being able to substantiate your position though.
Jesus. How fucking inflated is your ego, cunt? You can't even admit that you were wrong about something as minor as THAT.

>Still lmaoing at the fact that you denied moralfagging,
But there's nothing for you to laugh at, because, again, my position has nothing to do with morality. And I'm the one who should be laughing at you, since you're in no position to do so and I'm in EVERY position to do so.

>with all that hilarious caps lock abuse for emphasis and muh human nature.
I fail to see what so funny about capitalizing certain words for emphasis. If anything, it's something that people SHOULD do. It makes things sound better, in my opinion. As for the human nature thing, yeah, it's a perfectly valid point and is observably true. I mean, really, you're only making YOURSELF sound dumb by trying to mock it. It honestly seems like you're just trying to get whatever little shots in you can to help protect that shattered, fragile ego of yours.

That's why you should never act like a smug, superior prick, because it only makes you look so much worse when you inevitably lose.
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>>9721457
Most of the foreskin is just loose skin, dude. Even if you were butchered and all you have left is shaft skin, you can create a pretty good analogue for the foreskin. "Muh ridged band" and "muh frenulum" is all just retards trying to make a bigger deal out of things they've never known.

I have a perfectly functioning foreskin, and I don't care about either of those elements. The foreskin is all about having a skin sheath to rub over your glans when you jerk off, and protect your glans when you're not using it. Stretching can improve both of those things.
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>>9722298
I'm partial to partial phimosis.
It's like a gift waiting to be unwrapped.
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let's get this thread back to talking about foreskin

>>9722298
partial is my favorite for sure, it's what I'm going for with my restoration

I'd like an illustrated version of this
http://www.restoringforeskin.org/coverage-index/CI-chart.htm

This is the "CI" (coverage index) number that

>>9706490
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>>9707227
and so are on referring to. I'd want to get to CI-8 imo.
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>>9724574
every foreskin is different anon. Only fools speak for everyone. All my intact friends when surveyed by me say they can orgasm from gently rubbing the frenular area. I can too - because I have a tiny tag of my frenulum left and it's the most sensitive part of my penis. The second most sensitive would be my scarline - where my ridged band would be - which is the most highly innervated cluster of flesh on the penis (for most.) You can also read into Taylor's studies on penile sensitivity and expand your mind instead of namecalling and speaking for everyone like a particular US health official does. I imagine you're just stirring up controversy for the sake of replies so this will be my only one. Call me naive but I just can't help but provide a little truth when I see such blatant ignorance.
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>>9724574
>"Muh ridged band" and "muh frenulum" is all just retards trying to make a bigger deal out of things they've never known.
Actually, as someone who knows how to correctly stimulate these areas of my penis, I can tell you that they ARE a big deal, and are, in fact, the most sensitive parts of my penis. If I stimulate my ridged band just right, the pleasure I feel can be even better than my most intense orgasms. Nothing else even makes me feel the same kind of pleasure that my ridged band does. So, yeah, it IS a big deal, actually. Stop downplaying the foreskin.
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>>9724574
You're either bullshitting to make cut guys feel better, or you're cut and bullshitting to make yourself feel better. Either way, I'm not sure whether that approach is good or bad overall,. but I'll just note that it's false. The foresklin is very sensitive, both inner and outer, way more sensitive than the shaft. Rigid band and frenulum have the sensitivity of your lips, tracing circles around it and my glans corona at the same time, is my favorite foreplay. Every cycle there is a spike of pleasure when you move over the frenulum. They are very important, at least to me, It all is.
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>>9725584
i've heard some uncut guys say mixed things most say that it's very sensitive there but some say it's not. i think it's always more sensitive there than someone who's cut but enough uncut people seem to have that experience

i do think that the say though the shaft is by far the least sensitive part of the dick though
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>>9710348
that's all i want in life kek
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When do you think foregen will become a reality? They started animal trials a few months ago, maybe 5 more years?
Foreskin restoration sounds like a meme as it only dekeratinises the glans, not really "restoring" anything. You can probably buy a manhood cover to do the same thing without the tugging.
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>>9725843
>When do you think foregen will become a reality? They started animal trials a few months ago, maybe 5 more years?
5-10 years seems like a reasonable timeline
honestly i think any breakthrough would come from other research.
>inb4 hyper foreskin becomes unironically real
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>>9725795
The ones who say that the foreskin is not very sensitive are just guys who don't know how to correctly stimulate it. You need to use fine-touch pressure to properly stimulate it, since that's what it responds to.

It's exactly like how if you rub the palm of your hand with a bit of pressure, you don't really feel it. However, if you stroke your palm very gently, then you can feel it and it feels kinda ticklish and pleasant. That's how it is with the foreskin. You need to very gently touch the ridged band or frenulum to be able to feel it correctly and get maximum pleasure.

The pleasure you get is also a lingering pleasure, as well, and it can last for several minutes just from touching it for a millisecond, if you do it correctly.

I mean, I've had moments where I've accidentally brushed my hand against my ridged band just right and it made me moan like nothing has before, while my eyes roll into the back of my head as I laugh and smile. It's seriously that good for me.

I only stimulate my ridged band very rarely, though, because it feels so unbelievably good that I don't want to get used to the feeling. I want it to be special every time. :)
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>>9725873
perhaps. i'll never know because my parents are retarded though

if you're wondering how it is while you're cut, i really, really try to stimulate whatever's left of the frenulum but it's quite literally numb to the touch. stimulating the head is painful

the only actual stimulation i can do to cum as a cut person is squeezing the area or frustratingly jacking off the few centimeters of skin i have. when i jack off the skin doesn't even touch the head unless i force it to and it's quite painful when my skin rolls over my head

oh also glans stimulation is impossible becasue it's so dry there's too much friction
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>>9726250
Jesus. I'm sorry that that's your reality that you have to go through. Is it okay to ask how old you are and have you noticed your penis getting less and less sensitive over time? Or has it always been that desensitized?
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>>9726272
i'm 25 and i don't remember any desensitization. honestly i think it's more sensitive than it used to be
i remember i learned i was cut when i tried fapping and people kept saying "oh touch your frenulum" and i kept trying and it felt like nothing
or people would explain how they roll their skin over their head or use their fingers to trace it and i was unable to do either

i'm american so it's "normal", but it didn't help that most of the girls i know that i could be comfortable talking about sex were european. so i had girls actually say things like "oh man, i'm really sorry about that..."
girls literally felt bad for my dick so i always felt like an inferior human
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>>9726277
>girls literally felt bad for my dick so i always felt like an inferior human
You could always just develop a humiliation fetish for being circumcised.
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>>9726293
i don't really enjoy those fetishes though.

...i say as i'm literally a bottom but i'd rather not be attacked for my insecurities while being fucked
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>>9726298
Oh, I see. I just thought that maybe if you tried to fetishize it, it would help you deal with being circumcised, so instead of feeling inferior and sad, you could feel inferior and happy. Although, I guess even better would be to find circ praise, instead. But, regardless, you already said you're not into those fetishes.
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>>9726330
eh, personally if i'm insecure about something sexually i wouldn't want to be constantly reminded of it while having sex. developing a humilation fetish just seems like i'd be getting more angry at my own body
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>>9726332
Makes sense.
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>>9726347
yeah, i'm restoring now and it's very frustrating. i feel like a fucking loser for being cut. i just hope i can get some semblance of a foreskin soon
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>>9726293
No one really wants to be humiliated. And the implicit part of a sexual humiliation fetish is a degradation fetish, because if you're that unworthy, then you can only be sullying your partner. Like they're making less of themselves by even giving you the time of day, and likewise by tricking them into doing so, you are degrading them as well. A humiliation fetish is the bridge to the world for people who don't even want to exist, but can't just disconnect.
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>>9726611
Yeah, look, I was just suggesting that if he turned it into a humiliation fetish, then he would eventually get used to it and would no longer have these feelings of insecurity, or could at least lessen them. Kind of like how if you're offended by something and you just keep exposing yourself to that thing that offends you, it eventually no longer offends you. But, like he said, he doesn't care about such things, so it doesn't matter.
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>>9727156
>I was just suggesting that if he turned it into a humiliation fetish,
i don't understand this line of thinking. if you actually hated a part of your body why would you want your sex life to involve reminding you how much you hate yourself for these features

>Kind of like how if you're offended by something and you just keep exposing yourself to that thing that offends you, it eventually no longer offends you.
i don't know if this is how it happens. i think the opposite happens, a lot of cutfags who are upset about it are constantly provoked and get more and more angry
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>>9727162
>if you actually hated a part of your body why would you want your sex life to involve reminding you how much you hate yourself for these features
No. If you hated a part of your body, then humiliation would go hand in hand with it. Most people who like to be humiliated about a specific thing tend to not like that particular thing about themselves, and that's why they want to get humiliated for it in the first place. Sure, it's not true 100% of the time, but it is how it works most of the time.

>i don't know if this is how it happens. i think the opposite happens, a lot of cutfags who are upset about it are constantly provoked and get more and more angry
Okay, well, I would just argue that it operates on an individual basis. It may work for some, it may not work for others. Still, it's worth a shot.
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>>9680107
Hahaha Witchblade glove rejects a newhalf
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>>9727285
>Most people who like to be humiliated about a specific thing tend to not like that particular thing about themselves, and that's why they want to get humiliated for it in the first place.

Different anon here but I can sort of see what you are saying but I think being circumcised is special case. Most things people don't like about their bodies are genetic. Height, facial shape/features, bone structure, etc. They know that those things were always going to be that way due to genetics so there isn't anything for them to get angry about when it comes to those things and so turning to humiliation might feel like their only option. But circumcision is not like that. Their penis was deliberately altered by someone. They weren't born with a circumcised penis. So they won't go for humiliation but instead anger since there is a target for anger in this case. That's my take on it anyway.
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>>9726298
>.i say as i'm literally a bottom but i'd rather not be attacked for my insecurities while being fucked
This.
The best time as a bottom are the times where you're safe, cozy, feeling good, and would rather be nowhere else.
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>>9727483
yeah i like feeling good about my body not feeling like shit about it lol
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>>9727308
I can totally see your side, and while I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, I will say that when it comes to being circumcised and wanting to be humiliated for it, I think it has more to do with just possessing an imperfection, rather than genetics not playing a factor. But, again, I'm sure it works on an individual basis. Some circumcised guys like to be humiliated, others don't.
>>9727858
That's perfectly fine. Just a suggestion. Clearly not one that's going to work for you.





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