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We didn't ask to have this kink edition

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>>9763457
One of the worst OPs I've ever seen. What, did she swallow 100 watermelons whole and her stomach acts like shrink wrap? Sort your shit out.
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>>9763747
Strong left meme vibes
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As usual the real thread is here:
https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/9763457/#9763457
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>>9764090
wait, the complaining janny faggot returned? fucking hell
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>>9762277
You know it's interesting because even in this new thread there's furry stuff nobody including yourself in addressing so clearly the only requirement in Drawn is that it is drawn. I'm not a furry and what I posted was barely furry, hell it was just ears and a tail like all the others here, but even if I was you're in no position to try and have the high ground.

You're jacking off to Dragon Ball Z alien girls, fish girls and scaley girls digesting people but like 20% fur is the line?
You clearly inherently lack self awareness of you're kink shaming
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>>9762277
You know it's interesting because even in this new thread there's furry stuff nobody including yourself is addressing so clearly the only requirement in Drawn is that it is drawn. I'm not a furry and what I posted was barely furry, hell it was just ears and a tail like all the others here, but even if I was you're in no position to try and have the high ground.

You're jacking off to Dragon Ball Z alien girls, fish girls and scaley girls digesting people but like 20% fur is the line?
You clearly inherently lack self awareness of you're kink shaming.
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>>9764090
>>9764094
It hasn't seemed that bad for the last couple of weeks. Pretty sure the jannies just needed to teach the screeching retards a lesson. I've obviously never wanted to get involved in such things, so I'm just guessing, but the way I imagine it, /d/ is not a particularly moderation heavy board. They probably don't have a lot of guys working the system since the whole board is just people quietly posting fap material in their own zones.
Except for this thread. Where I'm pretty sure that for what's felt like multiple years, there have been multiple people reporting nearly every image in every thread, because [redacted] wouldn't stop bullying them into a state of white hot autistic fury. Without having spent a lot of time in the non vore threads, I could imagine that this one shitty general could have produced half of /d/'s reports, by itself, with essentially all of them being false reports. I for one would definitely not want to put up with that for as long as they did.
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>>9764112
What the hell are you talking about? What furry stuff is currently in the thread? A girl with with fox ears and a tail? That's Nekomimi and that's universally allowed, even on /e/.
What you posted an anthropomorphic mouse that both had a visible snout and a body entirely covered in fur.
If you do not understand the "furry line", let's lay it clearer:
If it has a snout (AKA a non-human facial structure on human body) it is an anthropomorphic animal, a furry.
If it has a normal human face, it is a nekomimi or monster girl.
The details of the body are more or less irrelevant, it's all dependent on the face.
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Great. We now have tranny the janny.
And a new sperg: autist the artist.
The plot thickens!
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>>9764120
The issue is, none of the other vore generals have any of the same problems this one does, in fact no other tangentially related fetish has autism of this magnitude.
For example, Fork's art gets posted in the BBW threads from time to time and it doesn't get deleted, neither does Boogie's stuff get deleted from giantess threads. All other threads can handle a mix of Japanese and Western art without mass thread deletions either. The only times I see stuff deleted is when there's an actual rule global rule violation like with scat or furry.
I'd honestly be willing to bet that we just have an autist who became a janny and just deletes whatever he wants, and he doesn't explore any generals outside of this one.
If he caused problems in other generals, he'd likely gain enough of a reputation for mods to do something about it, but for right now, if a dedicated troll is destroying only one general, mods can care less, as seen with Kisame and the Hyper Preg threads.
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And to make matters worse. Their art is just as autistic as them.
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>>9764112
>>9764113
You know it's interesting you posted his four times and only deleted it twice. Don't know the difference between neko and furry, fucking summer is here.

Lurk moar newfag.
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>>9764198
And you don't know the difference between neko and kitsune you fag. Summer really is here.
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>>9763770
>t. Too low iq to read anything more then a sentence.
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>>9763457
Based
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>>9764732
Only low IQ tard here is you pal, you don't need a degree in art to know that those images have way too much text in them.
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>>9764732
>imageboard
>image

>lmao lets post walls of texts
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>>9765024
Not him but I'm a huge fan of captions, I love some text off to the side of the image.
Key point, off to the side, where it doesn't spoil the image.
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>>9765024
>no patience for long texts

Seeth ADHD autist
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decided to color this old piece from that artist I can never remember but I've always loved
its not perfect by any means but its better than nothing
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>>9766359
it's worse than nothing go to hell blobfag
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>>9766359
It could use some touchups around those rough edges and a stronger shading too, it is too weak for the eyes to notice at a smaller scale. Not a bad attempt, serviceable but it is things to keep in mind for next time.
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does anyone have the comic where someone eats an office worker who got sent home early for being sick on a train? I think an anon in one of these threads drew it but I haven't had any luck with desuarchive
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Strive soon my dudes
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>>9766713
Meh, doesn’t interest me.
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Anyone got that chel artwork done by Rupie?
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>>9766725
No, he ate it
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>>9766713
I can only hope the recent popularity of May's Theme leads to a boost of art for her.
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>>9766895
Nice. Hopefully he colors it in the future 'cause we really need more Zinnia
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>>9766359
The skin looks like it's blending with the hair, which doesn't really look good in non-furry characters
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>>9767377
What's the source on these? The style reminds me a bit of Sy0p, but I haven't seen them post on Eka's in a long while.
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>>9767370
The remains floating around in her stomach make me want more slimegirl vore stuff
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>>9767601
bro she only got four toes
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>>9767601
The sheer devoted autism people have for this literal who character never ceases to amaze me. Her design isn’t even that good, and yet fuckers explode into cum whenever they see her.
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>>9767637
crazy eyes, messy hair, thats all there really is to it
youre overvaluing the """character of it""" people just want a hot image to cum to, not a hot entire lore and backstory
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>>9767841
hao nu r u?
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>>9767637
Different strokes for different folks.
Some people really like Messy Hair and "@_@" eyes.
Her being a non-specific NPC actually helps boost her popularity because she can be fit into any mold the artist wants.
Same sort of logic with Touhou really. Most of the girls only appear one or two times throughout the games with just a few lines of dialogue, but in spite of that they get thousands of pages of porn. High malleability leads to great staying power.
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>>9768025
>>9768029

hes right you know, comparing obscure characters to characters from the most popular gaming series isnt exactly a good example
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>>9768029
Sorry to burst your bubble but Pokemon is also lame weeb garbage
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>>9767617
wtf
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>>9768590
He also has versions without the autism text on his site for anyone interested. I don't recall if that piece was posted publicly yet though.
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>>9768648
He has the link to the textless versions in the description of each upload on his Eka's account
I'd post them, but I don't feel like getting jannied for whatever the fuck arbitrary reason.
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>>9768025
>Her being a non-specific NPC actually helps boost her popularity because she can be fit into any mold the artist wants.

I've yet to see this in action honestly, since everyone turns Hex into a yandere anyway
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>>9768659
To be fair, what else are you going to do with the crazy looking goth girl that wouldn't just seem contrarian or stupid?
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>>9768029
I used to like Pokemon a lot when I was younger. But nowadays I could care less about it.
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>>9767409
Yep, it's Sy0p
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>>9768996
where exactly? Don't see any of this on his ek.
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>>9766631
Search for Phex on eka's. I'd post it myself but she spits up a bone and I don't think that's allowed here. BTW does anyone have that one sequence in the style of modeseven of a tall woman at a gym eating a femboy? Pic unrelated it's a different sequence.
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>>9769193
I just realized the pic I posted also had a pred spit out a bone...
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>>9769193
>>9769195
I think bones are fine, only graphic digestion(gore) and scat is officially not allowed. It'll probably get reported as western artwork and deleted anyway.
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thoughts on b3t3?
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>>9769217
>b3t3
I have no sweet clue who that is. Can you post an example of their work?
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>>9769234
brain3times3 i figure their work isn't allowed here. I've known them since i was a kid.
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>>9769195
What is it about this image that is way better than anything western artists have done in a while? Is it the angle? The belly? The way you can see the vore happening at a different viewpoint other that sideways? The drool? The throat bulges? All of the above?! Something about Japanese art just seems to hit higher notes that westerners rarely do.
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>>9769217
Was one of the first vore artists I ever came across. Back then I thought his stuff was good. But looking back all these years later, his art is pretty mediocre. Though I’ll admit, some of his drawings are a guilt pleasure of mine. Same for some of the videos which were made using his drawings.
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>>9769245
I don't have the link to the comment right now, but it was either on ekas or deviantart where they said they stopped drawing because they went homeless for a while.
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>>9769149
It's on their Twitter, which is linked on their Ekas. They're @CalimariP on twitter. Do keep in mind that they do a lot of diaper art.
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>>9768730
>Warned for posting Tomoko under "lolicon" rule while the Foot Thread has a Young Tiki in the OP and several dozen posts of Nagatoro and Tomoko following afterward
Good to see the rule enforcement is as consistent as ever
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>>9769694
They don't moderate to enforce the rules, they just moderate to make people mad because they are bored. Think of the kind of person who volunteers to janitor 4chan and it makes a lot more sense. They don't actually accomplish anything though, since anyone who has been here for over two weeks knows about the archives.
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>>9769593
Sauce?
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>>9770466
I’m surprised she doesn’t have more art, considering her whole shtick.
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>>9770482
Same eating souls, transforming into a gaint snake, another anime girl you barely see is Boa Sandersonia, but thats probably because of her design though
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>>9770492
She works well with a variety of vore considering that. Though I’d mainly just want to see same size and micro/macro with her. I can see Boa Sandersonia working well with different kinds of vore too. And she has a weirdly cute design. I dig it.
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>>9770593
>>9770594
Fuck off
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>>9770603
kill yourself
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>>9770603
Wahhh
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>>9764104
Translate Anon?
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>>9770663
>>9770684
I can’t even feel bad for you retards at this point. Like god damn, you fuckers are stupid as shit.
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>>9770468
Source of pred name? and where did Nyx post this, eka?
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>>9771127
Trash.
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>>9771068
Ini Miney from Ace Attorney 2, Nyx posts some of her vore commissions on Twitter.
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I'm very proud of what I've created here. I feel like Pol Pot after the Khmer Rouge took over
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>>9771519
You’re this same >>9771271
dipshit aren’t you. Please get a hobby already anon, trying to shit up a vore thread in 4chan of all things, is just pathetic.
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>>9771519
There is no cause for alarm.
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>>9770336
Scolifats
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>>9771247
sauce?
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>Half the thread is deleted
Kek
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>>9772359
Good thing desuarchive exists, eh?: https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/9763457/
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>>9770913
Into swahili what do you need?
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Anyone willing to re-post that one image with a nude Touhou character on her back with a bunch of text surrounding her explaining how she "cleanses" spirits of evil?
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>>9767637
>why the fuck is this pokemon character getting lots of art wtf?!
genuinely stupid fucking post, bro
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>>9772986
This is weird

>>9772988
This is also weird

Settings where vore is well, kinda normal, arre pretty weird.
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Artist who did this:

https://twitter.com/shrinesgate2/status/1391457864523259905

Is opened for commissions again, was hoping to ask for a continuation with digestion/absorption + breast expansion but I already over spent this month.
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>>9773269
I feel like they should of just done the whole thing as a comic. The voice they used is pure cringe, and you can clearly see the head of the prey is just some circle layer placed in front of the pussy and they are just cycling the size of it. The changing in size doesn't even match up with the expansion and contraction of her pussy lips and labia which barely move and don't wrap around the preys head. The rest of the animation is fine but if your going to focus on unbirth then you should do it properly and not be lazy.
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>>9773284
>https://twitter.com/shrinesgate2/status/1391457864523259905
I don't get this whole trend of shitty stretch and drag animations. It's why I dropped Rux's fanbox. Do people actually rate these things over a halfway decent comic? They have to be a comparable amount of work.
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>>9773007

and vore in and of itself is not weird?
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>>9773007
This post is shit and gay. Kys.
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>>9773007

Thanks for the great post anon we couldn't do without this kind of feedback in every fucking thread
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>>9767637

post this shit on your blog not here
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>>9773000
>>9773617
Dumb cunts like you are one of the reasons why this thread will never get any better.
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>>9773007
anon, you know there's no prize for filling up the post limit right?
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Alright, have any of us considered the fact that those Cinnamon Toast Crunch commercials where the cereal pieces eat each other might have contributed to people getting a vore fetish?
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>>9773007
Truly a groundbreaking discovery. I wonder if water is wet as everyone says
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>>9773649
I’d say the pop tart nurse would’ve been more of a corrupting force on people than that. Or even the waffle one.
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>>9772988
Really hot as usual my man
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>>9773007
>normal
Naw these are serial killers bro
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>>9772646
I wonder what the janny gets out of it? He doesn't really hide anything, since everyone uses the archive, and everyone hates him. Ah well, memes must be kept out of general!
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>>9773269
Any translation?
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>>9772988
Don’t listen to the other guy this is amazing. Your scenarios are the best on Eka’s
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>>9773007
Based
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>>9772988
Shit dialog. Shouldn't you be aware of how people actually talk at your game wagie job?
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>>9773007
>assuming I don't have a sprawling and shockingly autistic background canon spanning 600 years, multiple planets, and untold billions brainwashed, subjugated and genetically modified to explain how hipster couples can live in cute apartments and eat hapless passerby without repercussions
bold of you
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>>9772986
>Girl has stomach bug
>Never gets to even expperience how bad it was going to be before other girl eats her and has to deal with it on a completely full stomach now
>Nausea triggered by pressure
Jesus fuck
God does anyone have more shit like this. I fucking love vore where the pred gets sick. Especially if its less focused on the vomiting and more focused on them trying to hold down the meal.
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Corrbear has deleted his entire art and account. He went the way of the Douche.
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>>9774563
source? Rest of Comic??
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>>9774602
I'm just curious, but who?
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How's this for a vore scenario
>Vore parasite that invades a host through the navel.
>in the span of a few hours, the parasite completely disposes of the human stomach and replaces it with itself (similar to a tongue-eating louse)
>during this time, the host feels no hunger or thirst. Anything ingested would be immediately regurgitated
> after the process is complete, the host hunger and thirst return to normal
> this, however changes over time with increased food cravings
> any excess calories from ingested food are used by the parasite to develop stronger digestive system, more flexible stomach to allow for bigger volumes of food stored and shrink to a normal size, when empty
> this also prevents the host from rapidly gaining weight, so they don't notice any significant changes, until it's too late
> some time after stomach development, the parasite starts to mutate the rest of the body as well.
>such mutations include jaws being able to detach from the skull, ribcage that can expand on demand, stronger and more flexible skin tissue to allow the host to swallow anything that they could not fit in their mouth normally
> at this point, the hosts cravings reach a level so high, it blocks out any morale or prejudice towards swallowing a living being, just fill one's gut
> the host starts to behave predatory during hunger strikes, seeking out lone targets and scurrying away to the shelter once they've ate
> endorphin hits, caused by the thrill of the hunt, as well as the pleasure of the struggling prey prevent any feelings of guilt the host could've have
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>>9774602
It’s a shame when they do that, like a heads up would be great, I don’t understand why you have to delete everything especially if people know yiu and document you but whatever I guess. Luckily someone uploaded most of their drawings.
e-hentai.org/g/1932020/f83710c0a7/
>>9774737
There is this cool invention called a “search engine” it allows you search the web for any word(s) you input, it is pretty neat, you should give a try.
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>>9774875
Neat idea, pretty sinister, probably hottest for people with a mind break fetish crossover. Lets you treat the predator as the victim in the scene, gradually corrupts them over time, etc. Not the best for vanilla guys like me but I’d probably still fap to it if the art was any good.
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>>9775024
Wish there was more vore with her as the predator.
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>>9774460
I also love when clothes or maybe some other item the prey had gets stuck on the pred's intestine and they complain about it
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So I checked sloshing's deviantart page the other day and found out that she had deleted all of her old pics. Has anyone here archived her old pics ?
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>>9774911
thanks, I guess
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>>9774604
Filename.

that's all there is.
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>>9769195
Source for this?
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>>9775459
based smug loli predator
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>>9772988
>>9772986
Not personally into the scenarios, but they're interesting and unique. Keep at it, Phex.
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>>9776331
Tbh the last few have been kinda chaste, I figure I should probably do some hornier ones to balance out.
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>>9776454
Could we have a saucy UB sequence per chance?
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>>9775457
it's good but fuck that hair pattern
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>>9776459
you know I have a script that includes it written out but it's like 20 fuckin pages long and I don't know when I'll have time for that shit. If I can think of a good shorter punchline maybe. Until then I might just do some more thick eyebrows girl
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>>9776602
>Tfw you will never be Pearl and be digested by Marina
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>>9776625
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Aspiring drawfren who hasn't >pyw yet. I have an idea just wanted to bounce off of other anons so i have something to aspire to drawing

>Cyberpunk hell
>vore exists due to DNA mutations accelerated by mass pollution/radiation- Females have super stretchy innards
>majority argue it's evolution - justified by the fact that it solves the 'design flaw' in childbirth
>Vore is accepted and borders being forced via media, mainly due to many elites being preds
>Underclasses accept it, but anon, the protagonist, has mixed feelings.
>Scene begins, anon wakes up in a reformation pod
>Vore happens enough that municipal waste & sewage is scanned for digested remains.
>Assuming the proper insurance policy/credit score is tied to the DNA, the person is reformed with no memory of the past 24 hours
>anon is told his insurance from Evil Megacorp 4 has been billed as he leaves the building. It's been 3 days since he last had memory
>walking home, anon muses on the world as the cityscape is littered with giant ads promoting vore, selling vore insurance, showing predators with giant bellies, while also having many women walking around with large guts.
>anon is lucky he works for Megacorp 4, but countless others aren't so fortunate
>When anon gets home, his skinny, big tiddy wife greets him, worried out of her mind.
>it's not like this was the first time it's happened, but still she worries the insurance will fall through if he doesn't come home.
>anon tries to figure out what happened to get him eaten but can't remember and nobody has any clue.
>eventually he goes to bed, his wife cuddles up next to him, they fall alsleep.
>Anon wakes up in the middle of the night with his legs buried in his wife's gullet
>she swallows him easily and rests on top of her stomach
>it was her the whole time!
>"Sorry anon, but i'd rather it be you than someone random who might not be insured!"
>"You only have two days left of vacation time, so I'll stop then"
>"not that you'll ever know..."
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>>9776630
>Anon doesnt know his wife eats him
What a bummer, but I do like the reformation aspect here.
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>>9776630
I've always liked the idea that in a world where vore is common, some preds might try to genuinely be more moral about eating people than other preds. It makes the world feel more believable than if every pred is a psycho femdom caricature.
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>>9768938
Artist?
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>>9776630
I like it!
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>>9772988
I really like this. Most vore scenarios focus on the money shot, the swallowing and dying, the only follow up is usually asset gain and taunting dialogue, which is also still very focused on the act. This is more focused on the afterglow and a relationship other than predator/prey, and I'm all about it. If you wanted the next one hornier, then how about a hetero couple fucking with a prey in the woman? There are too many lesbians in this fetish because seeing any man getting laid is too much for these cowards, break new(ish) ground!
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>>9772988
love it, keep it up man!
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>>9777064
cringe for cringe
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>>9776525
OHNONONONONONNOONOOOOO
WHEEEEZZEEEEEEEEEEEE
PAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAAA
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>>9772988
That's not vore, that's just a serial killer story
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>>9777135
It's a serial killer story with vore
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>>9772988
Love your stuff, Phex
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>>9777101
source link?
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>>9768025
>>9767684
Don't forget the one selling milk.
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>>9774563
Does anyone have the set with this character with the 2 boys? It got taken of ekas.
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>>9777394
It’s still on there. Are you logged in?
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>>9776454
Drink the shit coffee - eat the cicadas.
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>>9777135
Did you just now realize vore is about murdering people? The majority of vore is about serial killers kek
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Any good stories that aren’t 10 lines by some ESL?
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>>9777629
I wish there was any artist into actual escapism.
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>>9777707
Escapism how? Like houdini escapes a box but with vore?
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>>9775457
Sauce?
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>>9777656
It's more complex than that but I don't feel like getting into the 'tism
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>>9777994
Same ideaguy from above. Had another stroke of inspiration from your (you) train for a short story/sketch

>Lawyer defending a pred in court
>"Your honor, nobody is denying the fact that the Victim lost her life while occupying the stomach of my client"
>"However, first degree murder requires willful and premeditated malice. There is no evidence suggesting my client planned anything before the ingestion"
>"Furthermore, the Second-Degree and Voluntary Manslaughter charges are insufficiently supported given the same lack of malicious aforethought"
>"The prosecution has no evidence suggesting my client had any intent of depriving life by ingesting Ms. Strasberg. All we can reasonably assume is that my client had a hunger, not a bloodlust"
>"At best, the State could argue Involuntary Manslaughter given the... frightening effects of digestive enzymes"
>Looks back at his client's still bulging stomach
>She winks at him
>"But I maintain that even manslaughter is an egregious over-charge by the DA"
>"Manslaughter is death resulting from action. But is digestion actually an intentional action?"
>"No. Like a heartbeat, you cannot consciously control the human digestive system, and therefore my client had no control over the death of Ms. Strasberg"
>The notion that the admitted act of ingestion could could qualify as a negligent action resulting in death is the equivalent of claiming negligence when crashing and dying five miles after a drunk driver cut you off"
>"Objection! This is an irrelevant, false equivalency!"
>"Overruled, you may continue, Mr. Goodman"
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>>9778087
>"Thank you your honor"
>"As I was saying. I could slip down my client's gullet, provided she has an appetite for lawyers, of course"
>The looks back at his client. She rubs her stomach and meets his gaze, winking
>The DA pipes up
>"Your honor, let the record show the defendant demonstrated intent to eat Mr. Goodman by rubbing her stomach and winking at him."
>"Objection, your honor! My client admittedly had a large lunch, but the prosecution has no way of proving a bloated belly and looking at one's attorney proves intent to ingest me!
>"Sustained, Please strike the last two lines from the record. And I also will remind the defendant to please act appropriately in my courtroom.
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>>9778092
>Thank you, your honor, and my client has been anything but poorly behaved, might I add.
>Now, speaking of my client, even after being fully encapsulated in her stomach, I would have ample time to finish this trial without any physical harm done to my body"
>"Digestion is not instant, and to fully melt a human being takes a considerable amount of time, as we know from Exhibit 14b - the endoscopy of my client's intestines. As well as... well, just look at her"
>"What can we determine from this? Only that there was a considerable time gap between ingestion and digestion. The 'victim' was only the victim of her own inaction - like the car crash five miles after being cut off"
>"There is no possible way for the prosecution to prove my client willfully trapped Ms. Strasburg in a chyme-filled stomach until digestion was sufficient enough to cease life"
>"Any suggestions that it was not a consensual ingestion resulting in tragic, no-blame loss of life is unsubstantiated hearsay and conjecture."
>"Sentencing a young woman based on unfounded accusations? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, You are better than this!"
>"There is no evidence suggesting malicious intent by my client, and you cannot reasonably expect to charge a woman for a bodily function as unconscious as the pumping of blood"
>"Thank You"
>The jury is full of coomers and finds the defendant Not Guilty on all charges.
>Sets precedent for Vore to be 'legal' assuming the police cannot prove the pred willfully set out to kill someone, and the ingestion was non-consensual.
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>>9778094
Fucking based
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>>9777994
No please I would love to have the discussion
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>>9778094
I think reading this unfunny shit actually made me a little dumber. Good thing I've still got 149 IQ points to spare
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Anyone got that vore pic of that T. rex anime monster girl?
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>>9778700
Go be a cringe whiner somewhere else Einstein
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>>9778700
IQ points are made for figuring out if you're retarded or not moron.
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>>9773649
>https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/9763457/#9763457
for me it was majin buu from dbz
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>>9773649
for me it was the episode of billy and mandy where mandy might be eating people
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>>9778087
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>>9778094
This is dumb. I like it.
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>>9773649
For me it was the same show as >>9779466 but with the episode that had the magic zipper
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>>9779466
Episode name? was it the brain one?
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>>9779965
there were a couple i think, one was based entirely around the concept mandy was eating people and even ended implying she ate irwin (she even spit out his glasses), and another had her turn into a giantess and ate sperg. there were probably more too
i feel like a lot of cartoons from that general era just had a lot of vore shit in them, i remember a lot of that kind of stuff in chowder and ed edd & eddy too.
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>>9767369
sauce?
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>>9778433
sauce for this?
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>>9779965
the episode was called tastes like chicken
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>>9775457
>>9775459
got any sauce on this one?
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>>9780978
https://twitter.com/munemotocom?s=09
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>>9780338
https://aryion.com/g4/user/Kiyoa
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