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Are you a man who's always wondered what it would be like to be The Second Sex? Do you want your gender to place significant restrictions on what you're able to do and accomplish in life? Do you want to feel alienated and inadequate in a society where all institutions are built by and for women, where all culture is saturated with the female point of view? Do you want to be plagued by subtle yet persistent doubts that the women around you will always see you as less independent, as less capable, as less of a human being, simply because of the genitalia you happened to be born with? Then this is the thread for you!

This thread's focus is on matriarchal communities and societies, at the city, country, or global level. Discussion of worldbuilding and theorycrafting is encouraged.

Worldbuilding questions:

>Did your matriarchy develop out of existing societies, perhaps by a political revolution? Or were humans simply always matriarchal from the start?
>Any changes to human biology? Do men get smaller and weaker, do women get stronger, do magic or monstergirls get involved?
>What does life look like for the average man? What rights does he have and not have? Are men nothing more than cum factories and slaves, or do they have some ability to control their own lives?
>How brutal is your matriarchy towards men? Does it practice extreme violent femdom, or does it have a more motherly touch?
>What would marriage and familial arrangements look like?
>How would religion look? Goddess worship, veneration of women as the original creative force, etc.
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Frequently in matriarchy worldbuilding one of the first things people think about is, "why wouldn't the men just rebel, since they're physically stronger?" This then leads them to give women super strength, female-only magic powers, etc, in order to give them the upper hand. Although these things can be hot on their own, I don't think they're necessary for a realistic functioning matriarchy. In real life, people generally don't start revolutions unless things are going really, REALLY shitty for them. Why risk death and uncertainty if you have food to eat and a roof over your head? If all men are simply taught from a young age that this is just the way the world is and you have to deal with it, that should be enough to stop them from getting too rowdy. Unless of course you're really brutalizing them.

Male propensity to crime and violence could be controlled with a harsh legal system. Believe all women, one strike and you're done.
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My ideal fantasy is pretty darn close to the real world, or maybe the real world of a few decades ago, simply with the genders reversed (see https://archiveofourown.org/works/24484072/chapters/59097556). The challenge lies in how to get there. One thing I've been thinking about lately is how you could get women to sexually pursue men as aggressively as men pursue women in reality, and enter into something like traditional marriage/pair bonding relations with them. Even if you could somehow institute full matriarchy tomorrow, women would not start sexually behaving like men, for a number of reasons. Mating strategies are, to some degree, independent of who holds political and financial power.

Some people realize this problem and they realize that the solution is that men need to be altered to become biologically more valuable (or maybe women need to become less valuable). One idea I've seen is that the number of men needs to be drastically reduced, to as little as 5-10% of the population, making them a hot commodity. If you reduce the number of men too much though, society will start changing in pretty drastic ways, and men would be pushed towards becoming traveling cum factories.

Something I've been toying with is the idea of keeping the number of men at 50% but drastically reucing a man's window of fertility. Say, a man is only capable of producing viable sperm between the ages of 19 and 22, and maybe even in that window, he only gets a limited number of ejaculations before he's completely out of viable sperm (throw in some pseudoscience about how only ejaculations in a vagina "count", so humanity won't go extinct because horny guys were masturbating too much). I think sperm might become so valuable at that point that women would have to be the ones to start courting men. There's all sorts of fun things you could do with this: the pressure on men to not be sluts would be HUGE, women would hate the idea of another woman "using up" her man, etc.
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>>9767075
Because systems of tyranny by definition require control factors. Human beings are by nature curious, full of guile, and ambitious. You can groom 99.9% of men into subservience, but that 0.1% that is left will, over a period of generations, inevitable start doubting the system and shaking it's foundation.
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>>9767091
It depends on how much "tyranny" is in your system I guess.
Women had fewer rights than men for a long time. Peasants had fewer rights than feudal lords for a long time. How often did they start violent uprisings? Not very often, in the grand scheme of things. Sure it happened sometimes, but there was no mystical force that immediately compelled all societies towards equality.
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>>9767100
The idea that inequality is unjust is modern and based on modern principles. Inequality was often created not by a neverending enforcement of will, but rather by a long-standing social contract that allowed societies to (mostly) successfully function.

Women had fewer rights because those rights were traded for long-term survival. There was a two-side benefit in that trade, and it's arguable which side gained more.

Feudalism was based on a separation of labour; peasants had less power than lords and knights, but they were also not expected to partake in military activities. It was also a trade.

Even in ancient Rome the same trade existed; slaves, who are almost universally considered nowadays to be the recipients of inhumane inequity, had, quite often, longer life expectancy than their masters simply because a Roman landowner was expected, until a certain point in history, to fight for his country, while the slave wasn't.

Of course, there's a shitton of exceptions and subcases and whatnot. But generally speaking, any system that held for a long time held because there was something of value on each side of the social contract, no matter how unequal it might seem, at first glance.
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Does circumcision exist in this world? And to what extent?
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>>9767067
>biological revolution - a virus causes the female sex to change psychologically and physically
>women are stronger, larger, and their bodies become much more MILFy, thicc, huge breasts
>men get smaller, weaker
>women's breast milk makes men stay smaller and weaker so they never recover, it is the main carrier agent of the virus, and is also highly addictive, but all women's body fluids carry the virus
>men are treated as little more than infants, women no longer see them as adults, whether this is genuine or a faux-ignorance is uncertain, men are kept in the most luxurious of golden cages, treated in the most infantile means, constantly being breastfed, having their sexuality used against them (kept in chastity and only allowed to cum when they act along, or forced to orgasm in infantile circumstances, while being breastfed, etc), but toilet shit is gross so they let them go to the bathroom who cares about piss and shit stuff, also i dont know or care what happens to people under the age of consent in this world, they all disappear
>men are treated sickeningly sweetly, motherly matronal figures being the norm
>religion is somewhat unchanged except is rewritten to be entirely matriarchal, and all the teachings are corrupted/twisted to that end
>the virus effectively makes people immortal so this never ends, and there is little to no pro-creative sex going on, so the whole world grinds to a halt, all technological development is geared towards matriarchal motherhood, new cribs, new diapers, new toys, new mind control methods, better sex toys, chastity, etc
>all culture is corrupted, all tv shows are about motherhood, or childrens shows which are grossly sexualized, full of mind control subliminal messaging, as is all the advertising in a very They Live style
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>>9767243
>males in the wild who have managed to avoid becoming infected are hunted day and night, think terminator war but the robots are massive sex monsters who are promising you a golden cage and abandoning your humanity rather than hiding and running in wastelands
>since no new people are being born, males are a very limited supply, and finding new ones in the wild is insanely lucrative
>once a male is "adopted" though, as in has been properly encoded to the specific variation mutation of the virus that that woman is carrying, the "motherly" instinct takes over and other women won't try to steal that male, but will rather dote on them as a mother's friend would, albeit extremely sexualized, and while males will have one or two or three mothers in rare cases, they may have dozens of "aunties"
>females are obsessed with the "safety" of males, which is either faux ignorance or genuine blind virus-driven concern to not let them escape, and while towns are painted in soft pastel colours and everything is a soft and passive nightmare, those are real locks on every door and window, real manacles no matter how soft the padding inside them is, males are hopelessly trapped without even a shred of a chance of escape
>the idea of keeping males "safe" is a driving obsession, and even with the ridiculous levels of "security" (read imprisonment), females are constantly finding new ways to make things "safer"
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>>9767269
>it doesn't take long for stockholm syndrome and the constant, unending oppressive mind control hypnosis subliminal nightmare to take its toll, and males become passive, if insanely hypersexual horny infants, becoming everything their "mothers" are coercing them to be
>it doesnt hurt to have the positive reinforcement of obscene amounts of sexual pleasure (influenced by the virus of course) caused by doing what "mommy" tells them to do
>almost no males will hold any hope of escape for long, and any semblance of resistance will be broken down by endless hours of mind-bending horniness followed by multiple toe-curling milking sessions
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>>9767091
>0.1% that is left will, over a period of generations, inevitable start doubting the system and shaking it's foundation.
If its that small of a percentage I think the foundation could weather it. Over time the physical advantages of being a man are gonna matter less when the matriarchy controls all the weapons and technology.
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>>9767229
It probably wouldn’t be widespread, since any matriarchy is a world that has left Judeo-Christian values and traditions behind. Maybe some people would still do it as a cosmetic thing.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VD7DKC7
I really recommend this book
It's also called sexy space babes
Earth gets conquered by aliens and they have a 8/1 gender ratio in women's favor hot and has several spin offs
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Exaggerated role reversal world.
Diverging from right at humanity's evolution, Women are now the larger, more powerful sex, with the minimum female height and maximum male height having no overlap at all.
Women are all buff and hyperconfident. Athleticism is understood as the lynchpin of the female life: society has adopted a max four-day workweek, with a weekend plus one day dedicated entirely to sport and physical training on top of what of it they do in their spare time. Raucous banquets abound, and songs and poetry gush about the joys of wiping the sweat off your brow from a longday of competition, and consuming to excess, gulping down entire pints in one go, turkey leg in the other hand. All the heroic knights, action stars and cultural figures of strength are women.
Boys are small cute little things usually left to the arts over the raw material world of women. Compared to the id of this world's women, boys tend to have a refined, but sensitive demeanor, soemtimes even a tsundere streak. Traditional dress for boys calls for thin fabric, long gloves and socks, and most importantly flowers, which often hold some symbolic significance, put in their long hair by potential suitors, marking them "property" of certain women, families or sport teams.
Everyone has multiple sexual partners, (hence a boy being "property" of whole teams) albeit with an emphasis on the romantic notion of eventually finding "the one" among them all, their stalwart defender. Women do seek to sexually dominate boys, and they do on a frequent basis, but basic physical is just some simple first step. They love to tease them, train shirtless in front of them to watch them blush. Dominating a boy means to have amazonian confidence force its way into a boy's heart and melt their veneer of refinement. Sex occurs plenty, but having boys sit on your lap and cling to you at a banquet or wear revealing clothes as your cheerleader is when you've really got him wrapped around your finger.
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Femdom scenarios and dominant women have become more common in fiction, but full on matriarchies are still very rare. I guess it seems niche and strange enough that there's no reason to put it in a story unless you intend on making that the sole focus. I still think you could have something like an isekai though that worked it in in a casual way, without becoming porn or making it the whole point of the story.
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>>9767067
Low iq take.
Matriarchy is the human norm. Hence hypergamy. Institutions were a male cope. Then taken over by women.

If women used their power properly, men would be sexually attractive and not the pigs they are today.
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>>9768000
>If women used their power properly, men would be sexually attractive and not the pigs they are today.
Please elaborate.
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love these threads
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>>9768000
>human norm
all evidence to the contrary
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>>9767982
The Drow.
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I wish there were more gentle matriarchies that aren't just men getting badly hurt.
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How are the physically and mentally disabled treated in your matriarchs? Are they practically street rats? Or are they given leniency and are treated more as pets or, if lucky, sons?
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>>9768000
He's right
Men are supposed to put themselves at risk to protect the woman, provide for the woman, and all these things that ultimately lead back to the woman being the true one in control
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>>9768537
>Men are supposed to put themselves at risk to protect the woman, provide for the woman
You’re actually just describing what it means to be in control (usually).
Think about the relationship parents have with their children. Parents are the ones who have to take on risk and provide for their children, but that’s precisely because parents have the power and kids don’t. A child doesn’t have the option to say “I’ll just move out and get a job and support myself”, so the parents have to provide. As part of the deal, kids have to do what they’re told. They live where their parents say to live, they go to school when and where they’re told, etc. With power comes responsibility.
Of course, not everyone social contract in real life is equitable. Sometimes one party is just oppressed, and they take on all the risk and all the responsibility and receive little or none of the reward. But in general, more power = more responsibility and less power = less responsibility.
Applying this to a fantasy matriarchy, the implied catch should be, whatever benefits or protections men might receive, it comes at the price of losing the ability to opt out of the system if they ever get bored or tired of it.
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How do pregnant women typically change in your society? Do they undergo a change to a more maternal mistress? Or do they become more demanding and harsh
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>>9767067
I'm going to answer this based on the lore I made up for a matriarchy/gentle femdom story I should really get around to finishing.
>Did your matriarchy develop out of existing societies, perhaps by a political revolution? Or were humans simply always matriarchal from the start?
It is not human nations that are matriarchal, but the mighty elven empire. Elves have a very skewed gender ratio, so there are many more elven women than men, and all positions of authority are held by women. Most skilled jobs are also done by them, and they make up the entire elven military and mage corps. Low status jobs are often performed by the shorter-lived, less magically inclined subjects of the empire, such as humans.

>Any changes to human biology? Do men get smaller and weaker, do women get stronger, do magic or monstergirls get involved?
Elves are superhuman in agility, strength and sensory capability, and much more magically gifted than other races. Elven men are smaller and more slender than women on average. The only downside of elven physiology is a lack of physical stamina compared to humans. For example, while elven warriors may be terrifyingly deadly in a charge or an ambush, they are less fit for the more mundane military task of erecting a fort after a day's march.

>What does life look like for the average man? What rights does he have and not have? Are men nothing more than cum factories and slaves, or do they have some ability to control their own lives?
As men are very rare in elven society, they are seen as too valuable to work in or interact with the wider world. They spend most of their lives in the temples, under watch of guards, providing sex to the women considered worthy enough to breed, maintaining their appearance and physical fitness and carrying out complex clerical rites alongside the priestesses.
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>>9769252
>How brutal is your matriarchy towards men? Does it practice extreme violent femdom, or does it have a more motherly touch?
Men live comfortably, although they have very little freedom and only one path in life available to them. However, the rare men who are unruly or fail to perform their duties will face increasingly harsh punishment and eventually reconditioning. If that doesn't work they are stripped of their duties besides breeding, which is done by force if necessary.

>What would marriage and familial arrangements look like?
All men are shared, so marriage does not really exist, and women simply raise their daughters alone, while male children are raised by the church. Because average elven women get almost no interaction or intimacy with men of their own kind, liasons with relatively abundant male human servants are not uncommon, especially in recently conquered lands where there are far more slaves than paid laborers. Attitudes towards slaves vary from harsh and haughty, to more tender and maternal, but lean towards the latter. They are a warlike empire after all, but the belief that bringing civilization to the more feeble races is a good thing for both parties is widely held, and not entirely inaccurate.

>How would religion look? Goddess worship, veneration of women as the original creative force, etc.
desu I haven't thought much about religion, besides the imperial state religion having a monopoly on access to men, and the empress being head of the church and semi-divine. Probably organized worship of a refined, genteel pantheon of elf specific gods (whereas the human gods are more rough and pagan) where many rituals are gender-codified and represent the "ideal" traditional gender roles.
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>>9769353
#21 #21 #21 #21 #21.

I fucking love thinking about these more "normal" role reversal worlds. The number of small little details you can include is endless.
For example, all talk of sex in our society is dominated by the straight male POV. Women's bodies are inherently desirable and sexy; fucking men is gay and degrading. Even for a straight woman, there's always something a little "slutty" and "dirty" about letting a man cum on you; he's marking his territory and making you his bitch. What if we flipped that around, and instead of cum being the "dirty" fluid, it was pussy juice? What if women were the ones who were obsessed with "marking" a man by getting him to swallow her juices or rubbing her juices on him, like it was an achievement showing that the man had been fully dominated?
Imagine you're a young man in high school trying to figure out his sexuality and his place in a female-dominated world, and one day you hear the girl who has been aggressively pursuing you call another girl a "cuntlicker", and the next day, she's trying to push your face into her own cunt out in the parking lot behind the building. What do you think that would do for your self-image?
Another thing I like is the idea of women just being kind of boorishly oblivious to the male perspective, e.g., just always assuming that the end goal of sex is the female orgasm, and she will automatically expect you to perform any sex act or position that helps her achieve that - oral, girl on top, whatever gets her off. And of course this can extend to so many things outside the bedroom too, not understanding why it's unusual for the protagonist in every popular work of fiction to be a woman, not understanding why anyone would think it's weird that 90% of all congresspeople are women, and on and on...
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>>9769477
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>>9769252
What’s your story about? Is it from an elf or a human pov, what sorts of femdom things happen, etc.
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>>9768505
In my matriarchal world men who can't reproduce or who can't be used for hard labor are seen as drains on the system. There are some resources to help them but overall they are often overlooked by society at large at best and abused at worst.
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>>9769492
It's a short story about a human slave adapting to life under his new elven mistress. He was a young soldier when the elves invaded his homeland and has both mental and physical wounds from the war. I started writing it during the last matriarchy threads on here but didn't finish before they died off.
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>>9769852
Definitely post it here when you’re done! Good matriarchy stories are harder to find than more general gentle femdom stories.
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I can't believe the mad femoid reported my comment lol
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>>9767067
why did the jannies delete the ABDL fantasy but not the captions? is this jannie prejudice cropping up again?
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>>9769944
the femoid is a tranny
>>9769978
the tranny is a jannie
tranny mad = jannie mad
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>>9769987
makes sense
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>>9769490
so just so we're clear mods, this shit is ok, but on-topic posting and images are not?
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>>9769866
It would appear this thread is the last place stories are welcome if the jannies are deleting them out of spite. But then again the nu jannies are why everybody migrated you-know-where so we might as well post them there instead.
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>>9770000
People fap to stuff like >>9769477
People fap to captions and text posts. Text isn’t “low effort” or “off topic” or whatever you think it is. It’s literally porn for many people. Just because you only get off to images and not words doesn’t mean everyone is like that.
If you don’t like what’s in this thread then just treat it like any other fetish on this board that you’re not into and don’t read the thread.
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>>9770027
Yeah I didn’t mean to actually dump the story, just link it.
>you-know-where
No I don’t. Where?
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>>9770028
Its literally in the rules. Captions are banned. The fact they deleted stuff that this board is explicitly designed for, and left stuff that is explicitly banned, is what is so amusing.

But let's not force me to open the folder with the text file to copy paste everything about captions on /d/. It doesn't matter. The fact they deleted the stuff not only this board was designed for, but this thread was MADE for, is hilarious.
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>>9770036
this
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>>9767085
Masturbation doesn't matter, you could use secure male chastity devices (e.g. secured by piercings)
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>>9770028
people fap to scat too, no one cares, it gets deleted
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>>9770036
I fap to captions. I cum buckets to captions. Whatever is in your text file about captions is retarded. Stay mad.
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>>9770051
>ur mad
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>>9770036
The decline in quality and activity on /d/ due to the ban of written content was a fucking crime and you know it.
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>>9770036
>Its literally in the rules. Captions are banned.
Where does it say that? I don't see it on the rules page and there isn't a sticky.
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>>9771028
we're not going through this again for the 100th time, check any of the hundred threads in the archive which explain it

>>9770943
the fact you can look at /d/ now, with shitty captions making a cum back, and say it is "better", goes to discredit your opinion

and if you guys like written content so much, why do you support jannies deleting actual written content as opposed to the "i put a word box next to someone else's art" shit?
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>>9771044
>we're not going through this again for the 100th time, check any of the hundred threads in the archive which explain it
So it isn't actually in the rules then? Because if one has to sift through archived threads to find something about it, it clearly isn't.
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>>9771053
no one is going to spoonfeed you because you're too retarded to read
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>>9770028
The irony of course is that caption fags eternally posting like this constantly defeats their own arguments...
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>>9771056
Oh, I see. "Its literally in the rules" means there are conversations about it hidden in archived threads. That's totally legit then.
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>>9770943
if you want captions so badly why don't you request to join the caption discord? ah but of course you wouldn't be salty about captions being banned on /d/ IF you were allowed on that discord, which means you must have applied and been rejected, or you know they wouldn't accept you and never bothered

>>9771060
and yeah the fact it descends into this same exact pattern of whining every single time is rather pathetic, i would have pulled up the text file with the full script laid out if i wasnt so lazy
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>>9771065
>>9771060
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>>9771044
you know its the same guy right? one autistic smashing their head against a brick wall until at long last they start to make a dent for years now
>>9771064
the fact no one is willing to wipe the shit from your ass every time you shit yourself because you're too lazy to do so does not disprove the existence of toilet paper
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>>9771060
Hey, I just asked for a citation on the claim that was made. I haven't posted any captions here. In fact, my first post was asking for the citation, because I read the claim and was thinking "I don't remember seeing that", and when I checked, it wasn't there. But now that I've been told that I'm not going to be provided with a citation because I'm too retarded to read and will have to sift through the archives myself to find this elusive bit of information, I can only surmise that the claim is totally legit, because when something's legit, you always respond to questions with evasion and insults rather than providing proof.
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>>9770000
from memory of that anon's post
women get larger and milfy, men get smaller and weaker, due to a virus women carry in their bodily fluids, they become hyper obsessed with the safety of men and infantilize them, overpowering them easily, constantly breastfeeding them, society grinds to a halt and men are slowly stockholm syndromed into submission
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>>9771069
The citation has been provided quite literally hundreds of times for years. You're on 4chan not r/atheism, no one here is going to justify your laziness to try to prove you wrong. Be an adult, go find it yourself, it is incredibly simple to do. No one else here is disputing the claim because everybody else here knows it to be true because we've been here longer than a week. Stop whining, go find it yourself, no one cares.
>inb4 ur mad
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>>9767067
>Did your matriarchy develop out of existing societies, perhaps by a political revolution? Or were humans simply always matriarchal from the start?
It all started in the aftermath of world war 3. A small state managed to erect itself from the ashes, which after a brief but bloody feminist coup resulted in the much smaller male population (military being 99% male will do that) being overpowered and imprisoned.
>Any changes to human biology? Do men get smaller and weaker, do women get stronger, do magic or monstergirls get involved?
Something during the war, maybe radiation, maybe a virus, has made women insane ticklephiles. Everything's the same otherwise.
>What does life look like for the average man? What rights does he have and not have? Are men nothing more than cum factories and slaves, or do they have some ability to control their own lives?
Men spend all day as toys for tickling women, constantly in ticklish agony. They have no rights. They are slaves, toys, albeit treated with "mock empathy". Women pretend not to know what they are doing is torture, because "look how happy you are!"
>How brutal is your matriarchy towards men? Does it practice extreme violent femdom, or does it have a more motherly touch?
Brutal from tickle torture standpoint. Otherwise fairly benign.
>What would marriage and familial arrangements look like?
Men are mated with (during extreme tickling sessions). There is no other reproduction.
>How would religion look? Goddess worship, veneration of women as the original creative force, etc.
The manic smile and crazed eyes of female figures are painted on every wall, a constant reminder that no matter how bad men think their lives are, it could be so much worse. They've heard what happens to men who attempt escape, no matter how impossible that seems...
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>>9771073
>The citation has been provided quite literally hundreds of times for years.
So you claim, but somebody saying something in an archived thread doesn't qualify as it literally being "in the rules", and the fact that you're going through the trouble to post over and over, but can't provide me with an actual place this rule is stated, makes you look like both a liar and jackass. I looked at the rules page and it isn't there. Go fuck yourself.
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>>9771078
No one cares, faggot.
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>>9771078
stay mad lmao
https://youtu.be/ezem3I7nfqM?t=64
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>>9771080
>>9771082
I'm not the one whining about people posting captions.
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>>9771083
>GIMME GIMME GIMME
>no
>WAAAAAAAAAH
yeah they're the ones whining, sure

>>9767067
anyway i just want soft and kind F/m petplay world
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>maybe if i keep replying someone will take pity on my mongoloid ass
this thread is gold
>>9771085
based, agreed
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>>9771083
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>>9770028
>mods delete actual content
>don't delete this
Really makes your brain have a jimmy neutron brain blast moment...
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>>9771064
>SHOW ME WHERE IN THE RULES IT SAYS I CANT JUST TAKE MONEY FROM THE BANK IN MONOPOLY AND SHOVE IT UP MY ASS

I feel so sorry for this kid's mom
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>>9771092
do you think you're... making a point by renaming filenames? oh boy you sure showed us!

fuck me this is a turbo sperg
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>>9771097
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>>9771090
Just hide and report bois, no need to let them derail the thread just because their special snowflake porn isnt allowed.
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https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/8883053/#8885756
Found it. There are literally no arguments here whatsoever besides a vague assertion that captions are "low quality". What a crock of shit.
I get the average man doesn't think that words are arousing. Whatever. I don't think half the shit on this board is arousing. I don't like futa or detachment or a lot of the weird shit people like here. My response to that is to simply not read those threads. It's very simple and everyone ends up happy.
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>go to patriarchy thread
>retard captionfag absent

men > women proof
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>>9771108
Yeah that's not it. Retard. Apparently it IS difficult to find if you're a complete mongoloid.
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>>9771113
no they got it right, they just didn't open the image, because they are - as you stated - retarded
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>>9771108
>no arguments
>the screenshots are literally right there

This is honestly like watching DSP try to crouch jump in Half Life
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>>9771101
listen to this guy, just ignore the fag and post matriarchy stuff

why is cum milking so dystopian and hot?
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>>9771115
Oh I know, I just didn't want to tell them that. I was going to let them figure it out for themselves.
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>>9771125
I did open the image. There are no arguments there besides “captions are low quality”.
I understand not getting off to words, but I can’t wrap my head around hating text porn this much. Are you just afraid that captions would take over all threads if they were more accepted?
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>>9767700
You can read it for free on royalroad
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>>9771130
If you read that entire image and didn't see the literal rules banning captions, you are so severely retarded I cannot help you.
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>>9771140
A sticky from years ago, that is not even up on the board anymore, is not a “literal rule”.
The global rule about “embedded documents” is talking about something totally different from captions.
Nothing else there explicitly mentions captions. Some of the other stuff is rules against western art which obviously does not apply to all captions.
Even if something is a rule, that doesn’t mean it’s not retarded. I’m asking why YOU hate captions and want them banned, I don’t care about “rules are rules because those are the rules.”
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>>9771148
imagine being this retarded
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>>9771148
>A sticky from years ago, that is not even up on the board anymore, is not a “literal rule”.
Yeah, what is it, some kind of secret rule? The thing about rules is that they don't work very well unless people know what they are, so you generally don't try to hide them.
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>>9771157
see
>>9771155
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Is this retarded argument just a ploy to keep the thread bumped long enough for anon to finish his story? If so, that's clever.
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>>9771343
Probably not. Caption fag always shows up whenever they see a chance to shit themselves in public for attention.
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>>9771070
still waiting to hear why this got deleted but
>>9769490
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>>9769477
these haven't been
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Which one would you
for me its C,G then L,E then L,G
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>>9771706
C,G N,G L,E L,G L,N
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>>9771840
C,G and then C,E. I like the idea of being taken out of my sexual comfort zone. Whether I'm willing or unwilling depends on my mood lol
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>>9771378
still waiting
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Okay, can you folks settle something for me? Assume that in a country, for whatever reason:

1. Women basically want sex as much as men do IRL, and tend to get as giddy and happy from a guy fawning over her as would be the case vice versa
2. That due to low male birth rate or some other factor this doesn't require low sex drive men or beta country (its just not the point of the question).

So think the reverse gender roles comic or something like that, except its really just women liking sex more, not necessarily men liking sex less.
Is that patriarchy or matriarchy or neither? From the pov of a male onlooker from Earth, women really will often let men paw and molest them, and from the pov of the women, some guy is giving them free sex and the idea of a man "raping" women is meant with a similar level of disbelief as a woman raping a man irl ("God I wish that were me," etc. though its still a crime).

Also I wonder why if monstergirls are popular in matriarchies, why monsters or monsterboys aren't popular in patriarchies. Weird.
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>>9771706
LG, LE, or maybe CN (I still can't wrap my head around "reverse harems")
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>>9773914
>Is that patriarchy or matriarchy or neither?
I would say neither, it's just a really promiscuous society. A matriarchy or patriarchy implies a hierarchy of some kind, it's right there in the name. In most human societies this is a patriarchy whereby men rule women and other men of lesser age and status. For the purpose of this thread, a matriarchy is similar but with women doing the ruling.

>Also I wonder why if monstergirls are popular in matriarchies, why monsters or monsterboys aren't popular in patriarchies. Weird.
I think in both cases it's because men are doing the fantasizing. The difference is just whether they are into maledom or femdom. Having a fetish for monsters or monstrous humanoids is pretty common among women from what I've seen, but they don't connect it to some idea of a "monster boy patriarchy".
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>>9773914
Fundamentally a matriarchy/patriarchy is about who controls financial and political power, not about who's the horniest or who tends to approach who for sex. So we can't say either way just from the info you've given. Although, as a consequence of holding political and cultural power, norms and institutions around sex and marriage tend to be molded to reflect the preferences of the more powerful sex.

As far as monstergirls go, a lot of people have the idea that a matriarchy could only work if females were physically stronger than males, and monstergirls are a tool to accomplish that.

>>9774032
>I think in both cases it's because men are doing the fantasizing.
As an aside, I think a lot of women DO fantasize about living in a matriarchy. It's just not a form that most men would recognize. Men fantasize about having access to female bodies, regardless of how many resources they're willing to provide. Women fantasize about having access to resources, regardless of how much access to their bodies they're willing to provide.

What women really want is to be able to get impregnated by any man they want (i.e. Chad) at any time they want, but then also be guaranteed that they'll be able to comfortably and safely raise the child to adulthood, regardless of whether they're able to get a resource investment from the father or not. Basically what women want is to abolish the precarity of single motherhood, either through universal basic income, or because family or the government will assist in raising the kids, or whatever. That way they could engage in sex purely on their own terms. If you read a lot of feminist anti-marriage stuff you'll see that this is what they want, even if they're not consciously aware of it.
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>>9774168
With men on the other hand, both "matriarchy" and "patriarchy" fantasies revolve around their fundamentally evolutionary imperative of having access to women's bodies. In a patriarchy, a man has his dick in a slave girl's pussy 24/7. In a "matriarchy", the man has his face glued to a domme's pussy 24/7. The outcome is the same in both cases. Only superficial details change.
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>>9774168
>>9774032
Good feedback, thank you both. Its interesting how a matriarchy is not usually a flipped patriarchy, but a lot more subtle of a concept. In fact, some elements seem weirdly compatible, since its not about who is horniest etc.

Anyway I'm going somewhere with this when I get some time later thanks for the answers
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>>9774168
>>9774175
>Hypergamy is not monogamy in the human sense. Although there may be only one ‘alpha male’ at the top of the pack at any given time, which one it is changes over time. In human terms, this means the female is fickle, infatuated with no more than one man at any given time, but not naturally loyal to a husband over the course of a lifetime. In bygone days, it was permitted to point out natural female inconstancy. Consult, for example, Ring Lardner’s humorous story ‘I Can’t Breathe’—the private journal of an eighteen year old girl who wants to marry a different young man every week. If surveyed on her preferred number of ‘sex partners’, she would presumably respond one; this does not mean she has any idea who it is.
© Sexual Utopia in Power by F. Roger Devlin

Sex-wise, men are communist, women are capitalist. © Someone

>>9774175
>With men on the other hand, both "matriarchy" and "patriarchy" fantasies revolve around their fundamentally evolutionary imperative of having access to women's bodies. In a patriarchy, a man has his dick in a slave girl's pussy 24/7. In a "matriarchy", the man has his face glued to a domme's pussy 24/7. The outcome is the same in both cases. Only superficial details change.
...unless it's the dreaded NTR/cuck fetish. Which I have always considered gay maledom, not femdom. Incidentally, what is unrealistic is that folks forget that female sexual drive / libido is far lower than the male's. Is it not? This is why chastity cages & belts don't exactly make sense.
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>>9774512
>Incidentally, what is unrealistic is that folks forget that female sexual drive / libido is far lower than the male's.

I assume this is in a rl sense and not a remark on fictional chars having varying sex drives from the human norm
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>>9774175
>Only superficial details change.
Nice, I didn't notice that you already made this point when I made this post >>9774409

It feels like matriarchy could use its own lexicon incidentally, since there are so many variants on matriarchy
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>>9767075
Exactly. The men wouldn't rebel if they were made to not even want to rebel in the first place, mental subjugation as opposed to physical subjugation.
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>>9768629
>Think about the relationship parents have with their children. Parents are the ones who have to take on risk and provide for their children, but that’s precisely because parents have the power and kids don’t. A child doesn’t have the option to say “I’ll just move out and get a job and support myself”, so the parents have to provide. As part of the deal, kids have to do what they’re told. They live where their parents say to live, they go to school when and where they’re told, etc. With power comes responsibility.

The difference is that adult women do have these powers unlike children, they have the capacity for independence unlike a child while also benefitting from the protection of a child. This wasn't the case 100 years ago, but women have a win-win scenario in recent times at least whereas children don't.
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>>9771070
still waiting
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>>9776332
Death by Snu Snu
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>>9767075
>This then leads them to give women super strength, female-only magic powers, etc, in order to give them the upper hand.
I prefer imagining that women are all 7+ foot tall amazons because that overlaps with my mini gts fetish. But a matriarchy that is purely psychological can be really hot, too. I think it forces you to get more creative with how society works than just "woman strong, man obey woman".
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>>9780121
Yeah, I’m way more on the gentle/psychological side than the “brutal dominatrix abuses her chained-up cum factory male slaves” side.
I’m doing worldbuilding for an isekai matriarchy right now and I’m trying to keep it as realistic as possible. Basically using the Mosuo of China as my model, but on a much larger country-wide scale. Strong emphasis on how social norms keep people in line and keep them from imagining alternative systems.
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>>9780121
>>9780542
>imageboard
>image
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>>9780630
The problem with these threads is that they're mostly too complicated to be portrayed in single images, and even when it does happen, it's far too rare, so the best images you can post, like yours, are just general femdom pics, in which case, why not just have a femdom thread?
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>>9775042
>The difference is that adult women do have these powers unlike children, they have the capacity for independence unlike a child while also benefitting from the protection of a child. This wasn't the case 100 years ago, but women have a win-win scenario in recent times at least whereas children don't.
No, they don't. The current feminist system is built on male consent and support. It could be overturned overnight. But it is not - just like the proletarians are not rising up against the bourgeoisie. Cultural control. People rarely do what is in their interests. It's all a spook.
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>>9781961
>Raynare
Based
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>>9774525
>I assume this is in a rl sense
If you'd ever talked to a woman candidly about her sex drive you'd know this is definitely not a rl sense.
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Okay, anyone got works that have this, or are at least making and publishing stuff? Asking both Matriarchy/Patriarchy threads.
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>>9768074
Now if only there was more femdom drow art. Like 90%+ of dark elf stuff is still femsub.
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Frankly, my only idea of a matriarchy would be a culture where males were not born but turned by females forcing other females to change. It's similar to a clownfish.
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>>9767210
She got da McDonald’s logo on her forehead. McDonald’s sponsored matriarchy
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>>9767229
It’d probably be as common as female circumcision irl
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In my ideal matriarchy men would be outnumbered 10-1. The limiting factor in growing the population is women so it makes sense that there would be more of them. Technology has advanced far enough that robots and machines deal with almost all of the physically intensive labor and due to the female majority culture and law heavily favors women. Women hold the levers of power and the few men that do hold high positions are only there at the pleasure of the women they serve
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>>9767111
>peasants had less power than lords and knights, but they were also not expected to partake in military activities.

Uh, what?

Never heard of levies?
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Any good stories with matriarchy?
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>>9784126
Dark souls 2
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>>9784088
Nobody cares about your Pawnee slave fetish bro
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>>9784088
Peasant levies are mostly a meme, the real fighting in the medieval era was done by men at arms who were usually small holders just below the level of nobility, and of course knights, the lowest level of nobility.
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Pretty good:
https://exhentai.org/g/1937730/7122a2d967/
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>>9784626
Its nice to see elves on top for once.
Its such a meme that they are an arrogant and noble race but they rarely seem to be depicted as such in porn
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>>9781721
>why not just have a femdom thread?
good question
if this thread is incompatible with the rules, why have it?
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>>9785043
There's a reason why there's text fields at all. If I wanted just images, I'd just go to gelbooru or pixiv (as I often do). I, for one, basically only ever come to /d/ for the discussion and writing that accompanies the images. I agree that images should be a focus, but I see no reason to dissuade high-effort discussion and world building.
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>>9784246
>>9784088
>Never heard of levies?
Medieval "universal" summons to arms, levies, assizes of arms, etc. generally explicitly refer to "free men" i.e. they specifically exclude serfs who are were the bulk of feudal era peasantry.
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Now that the sperg stopped posting, I’ll ask again so it isn’t buried

How are the physically and mentally disabled treated in your matriarchs? Are they practically street rats? Or are they given leniency and are treated more as pets or, if lucky, sons?
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>>9785473
For the most part, un-sexy suffering is a distraction in my fantasies. I also of course prefer the idea of a flawless matriarchy showing how superior women are at running things. So either it's a medieval fantasy setting with magic where these conditions don't exist or can be readily healed, or it's a setting where males that aren't able to serve for whatever reason are kept in the pet department (receiving treatment as appropriate).
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>>9767243
>>9767269
>>9767275
good stuff anon, although I think turning all the men into mindless infants remove some of the oomph because they're no longer fighting back and just going along with it
maybe a rare event caused by the virus is that a male suddenly wakes up completely lucid and with their memories of life before the virus fresh in their minds. It's as if they're experiencing all of it for the first time again, and they can only look on in horror and scream internally at what the world has become
This lucidity could last for a few weeks before they slowly slip back into drooling, infantile bliss
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>>9781721
because discussion and worldbuilding is what makes /d/ great
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>>9767243
>>9767269
>>9767275
mods undeleted it pog
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Bump
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>>9768000
Matriarchy also sucks and its only fun to fantasize about, women are fucking uncaring monsters when given political and institutional power
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>>9768013
not anon but the increasingly lowering value of sex means men dont need to put any effort into their appearance or life to get laid, if women understood how to use sex to coerce men into being strong and beautiful society would be better off
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>>9775042
women don't have the capacity for independance that men do
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Medieval matriarchy or modern matriarchy? I, for one, am way too big a fan of queens and thrones to give up that aesthetic.





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