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>Tokyo cuffs edition

Discusdion about all things denim, workwear, heritage and americana.


Previuos thread: >>18240224
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>Red Tornado pleated denim
this sounds like a unique pair of pants. is it maybe a little too weird to pull off casually?
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What's going on here? The Popeye cut?
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>>18245761
the person has really skinny legs
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>japanese boomers move into my neighborhood.
>mog me in things i can never pull off like kill bill onitsuka tigers.
its over...

>>18245752
they're reproductions of https://store.belafonte.jp/ if you wanna loop up fit pics.
their fits are end game for /fit/bros with big thighs. size up and use adjust for coal miner fit if desired. you need to be rly comfortable with tall rises and have an appropriate wardrobe to go with it of course.
belafonte's garage jeans ~would~ be an endgame jean for me if they made one more size down.
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>>18245761
Flared bootcut, typical western cut
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>>18245969
Iron Heart 634 is not a bootcut.
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>>18245981
Didn't ask what their name for it is
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anybody have a reference for what the back tabs on type 2/3 jackets look tightened up?
i can't imagine it looks good or improves fit
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>>18245984
The point wasn't the name though so I guess you'll be fine
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I've been rewatching Northern Exposure and it turned into my comfy show. There's lots of denim, workwear, heritage and americana inspo there.
Particulary with the character of Chris Stevens (John Corbett), who is basically what the early 90's would be it it were a person.
Sometimes he wears what appears to be a heavy Carhartt jacket with gussets on the back of the arms. Wish this was more common in a lot of jackets.
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But of course an honorable mention should go to Ed Chigliak (Dan E. Burrows), who, if not as swaggerly /fa/ as Chris, still wins a spot on because the jeans fit on him exactly as jeans should, imho. Of course that's somewhat easy to achieve when yoi got his height and proportions, but still I'd kill for jeans to fit me as well as they do on him.
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>>18246063
Sorry, it's Darren E. Burrows. I didn't know he is the som of Billy Drago, but the resemblance is undeniable.
Unfortunately, the full body pics I could find don't really show how well the jeans fit him. Wonder if modern 501 93 wpuld be similar. My thighs are a bit on the bigger side for 505.
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question: how would you guys open carry a large knife with jeans?
i like this spot but is there any way to carry it and also be able to sit down?
it must be open carried not concealed.
>acoustic
my state wants guns to be concealed and knives open carried. i keep having to deal with mugging attempts that end the second i brandish. brandishing opens you up to potential legal ramifications. open carrying a big ass knife around is starting to seem like a good idea.

>>18245737 (OP)
>op pic
you made this look like a sneaker thread no one's going to click it.
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>>18246473
>you made this look like a sneaker thread no one's going to click it.
It was a risky pic, I know. But in the end I assumed that people interested would actually look for the title. Meanwhile it might go under the radar for trolls and shitposters.
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>>18246489
good point actually. let's try it out for a thread. if this one doesn't get traction make a new one please. if i post it the /fa/ janny will delete the whole thread when he does his daily mass delete of all my posts.
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>>18245761
They are flaring at the bottom in a weird way because they are stiff and slightly too long
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thoughts on side belting?
fashion statement from the 50's. still popular with bikers to stop their belt from scratching their gas tanks. emo's brought it back for a bit. god tier for appendix carry.
i've been doing it for years, never knew it was a fashion statement till i noticed christophe loiron does it in every pic. you also see elvis and babe ruth doing it a lot.

here's a ton of examples:
https://www.instagram.com/christopheloiron/
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So selvedge is just denim woven on a shuttle loom so the weft threads are continuous and don't fray? I remember when this was the hype thing and didn't realise it was just a form of edge finishing
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>>18246695
yes its just an indicator of general quality of the garment. everyone thought the trend was selvedge but the trend was actually raw denim.
you can make very high end fabric on projectile looms. there's nothing stopping you from doing it if you want to. 99.9% of looms worldwide are set up for shitting out low grade fabric as fast as possible though. my favorite pair of jeans are non-selvedge and projectile loomed.
whereas basically anything made on a shuttle loom, the logic is that brands who take the extra step to mill their denim this way are not going to be cutting corners in other aspects of the garment like its construction. its just an indicator the jeans aren't cheap.
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>>18246685
While I was never a scene kid, I did it a couple of times in the 00s but it was a bit of a hassle to get it untied on every bathroom visit.
Of course, if it's a matter of utility like in the cases you mentioned, then the pros outweight the cons, but as a fashion statement I prefer to wear the buckle in its place.
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heres a webm if any zoomers were wondering what my actual jeans i was wearing around y2k look like. i don't have my exact pair from the turn of the millennium these were 2006.
zero taper coal miner legs sized up a whopping 6 sizes. my waist is 26" and the pants are 32" measured. belted and cinched.
the style back then was to wear them long and stack. personal choice to wear my jeans at a clean break.

>>18246705
kek nothing compared to when i'm innawoods and have to take an urgent dump. i just use a shoe string sized piece of cord tied around my waist and sometimes that bitch can tighten itself HARD if i autopilot and tie the wrong knot.
i'm doing it just for style. there is some utility though. i have much bigger than average weight fluctuations and it lets me wear the same belt at the top and bottom end of it. when i'm heavy i center it when i'm lean i wear it on the side.
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>>18246732
For some reason my clothes tend to last in wearable condition for long, including the cheap stuff. As a result I tend to accumulate lots and lots of stuff over the decades. Years ago I filled several boxes with old stuff going as far back as the 90s, and perhaps some of my dad's stuff from the 80s. That included jeans, knits, shirts, etc.
I packed it all and stored it in a local we used as a storge room of sorts located in my hometown. One day a cousing of mine who lives on another country was visiting and decided to take it all with him.
I didn't care much at the time but thrse days I serthe thinking about the good stuff that was there, I could even sell some of it if it didn't fit anymore for a nice sum.
Oh well, such is life.
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>>18246740
>For some reason my clothes tend to last in wearable condition for long
same its not like i was easy on those jeans. they were my daily jeans for about 8 years and they're still in rotation to this day. i'm probably around 2500 wears if i had to guess. most of those 8 years were spent doing home remodels granted i made a point to wear over-pants when i paint or work with chemicals. they're not dirty weft jeans its concrete stains. the tiny blowouts you can see in that vid are the only damage to them.
always lol when anons come in here and act like we're insane for spending so much on pants. what a great value i've gotten out of those evisus.

>Years ago I filled several boxes with old stuff going as far back as the 90s
dude i wish i kept my stuff from back then. at some point some girlfriend i had (lmao can't even remember) made me toss all that shit out for closet space.
clothes were so much better made back then.
i found some of my old tees from the early 2000's the other day. remembered them as my shitty tees. by today's standards they're actually really nice lmao.
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shit that tee i have on in the video is a tour tee i bought at a living legends show in 2012. the blank, thickness, fit and everything is so much nicer than the bullshit i see at merch booths now days. and that's a zero budget unsigned underground act.
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>>18245737
I bought some sneakers like this, Moonstar Gym Classics, and I literally haven't worn them since I got them a year ago. They look so bad with anything other than shorts imo. Not sure why denim guys always wear these instead of a proper shoe or boot, I'd even say running sneakers look better.
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>>18246784
Starting now that temps have dropped to a level where I can wear boots without getting my feet cooked and up until May I will wear boots almost exclusively.
It'd be interesting to discuss which sneakers work well with denim. There's a sneaker general, but it's mostly hypebeast unconxtualized stuff.
Every pair of sneakers I've bought since covid either fell apart in months or are in the process of doing so. Nothing holds a candle to the older stuff I had even if I used to wear it way more.
Wheb it comes to sneakers and denim my usual pairing is Vans (not the old skool but a similar model I don't remmember the name), converse, new balance 574 or sambas pre pozzing.
But denim and boots is my default lower combo fall-winter-spring.
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>>18246800
What about leather sneakers?
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>>18246804
I got a pair of chuck taylors in leather, but as far as leather goes they're shit so I guess they don't really count. My sambas are also made ot leather, but I'm guessing you mean thick leather minimalist shoes.
Had a pair of high tops in leather and another pair of Levis leather sneakers. The levis are shit and I wouldn't recommend. The high tops ended up being an unsatisfactory midfle of the road. That is, not as comfortable as sneakers neither as supportive as boots. Got rid of them.
As far as aesthetics gi a minimalist leather sneaker is a good choice in theory for some fits, but really, if you have to dress up, get shoes or boots, if you want to casualize your fit, get sneakers. Chukkas are also a good option even though I dob't own a pair.
But I'm rambling a lot. The point is that for me leather sneakers don't really fill any spot, but if you like them, sure, denim plus leather sneakers match pretty well for an urban casual yet well put together fit.
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>>18246784
They'd probably work with skinny jeans, just a bad time in the universe for that pairing
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>>18246784
I exclusively wear 40s/50s repro 501 cuts with chuck 70 high tops. There’s something about the silhouette of a cuffed pair of selvedge jeans resting halfway up the ankle height of a pair of high top chucks. I understand why dudes will buy the Japanese vulcanized sneakers, but they don’t look nearly as universal, timeless, and versatile as some regular chuck Taylors. I view sneakers as something you just need to beat the hell out of, so in my opinion it’s kind of a waste of time and money to buy the “nice” moonstars or shoes like pottery sneakers when you can easily get 3 years out of a pair of chuck 70s that cost $90 while looking infinitely better
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>when the indigo bleeds into your boots and bag/straps and shirts
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>>18247043
You can buy made in Japan chuck Taylors
Converse.jp isn't owned by nike and makes both cheaper overseas chucks based on the 90s models and made in japan chucks in the $100 range with Japanese vulc shoe quality but classic converse looks
https://converse.co.jp
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>>18247073
I’d be into buying an all star high top. Do you know what the sizing is on these? I know chuck 70s recommends sizing 0.5 down. Do the Japanese chucks recommend going with true to size?
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>>18245761
>>18245969
Guy has skinny legs and knocked knees. It's creating an awkward silhouette with the illusion of a flared leg opening. Not everyone is built for straight leg jeans. He'd look much better in 888s instead of the 634s he has on.
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>>18247078
Japanese sizing is based on your actual foot length, so just look up a guide for measuring your feet the Japanese way and go based on that
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>>18247048
feature, not a bug
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>>18246473
i like scout carry for fixed blade knives, but that might count as concealed if it's covered by a jacket.

maybe try a dangler.
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>>18247330
pic: dangling on a dangler
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>>18246473
Move away from the niggers bro
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>>18246473
>question: how would you guys open carry a large knife with jeans?
If it has to be visible for legal reasons get a thigh harness / DROP LEG SHEATH
You can get one that's as tacticool or gay bar leather bear as you like depending on your style
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>>18246685
POODLE
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>>18247073
>>18247078
people resell the black MiJ high tops on ebay for about 110-115 a pair for anons who want a pair but don't want to proxy BTW.
the MiJ's are actually made by moon star. and IMO they're the best sneaker moon star makes because the outsole is harder rubber than their other shoes so they last the longest.

>>18247137
pro gamer tip ALWAYS use japanese sizing when buying sneakers from any brand not just japanese ones.
japan sizing is literally how many cm the shoes is. vanity sizing doesn't exist if you use jp sizing, and all western brands have a jp size on their tag.

>>18247332
>>18247387
great ideas i was worried about some of my jackets concealing it. thanks bros good looking out.

>>18247369
>didn't mention race in my post
>guesses correctly
already did but they started building a section 8 high rise in my fucking SUBURB across the street when we bought our house. only 1 black family in the neighborhood. i know exactly who tried to rob me, he's a trouble youth and I know one of his former case workers. she stopped working with him because he pretty much implied he's gotten away with multiple murders.
median income $150,000 area, one of the safest cities in the country on paper.
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>>18247452
> japan sizing is literally how many cm the shoes is
Okay, if I want to find my Japan sizing, wound it actually just be the length of my foot in cm?
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>>18247455
yes but don't forget to add wiggle room. if you just take a well fitting pair of shoes you own it will most likely have either a "jp" or "cm" size on the tag.

also pro gamer tip when online shopping you can make a trace of your foot, then find top-down product photos of sneakers you're interested in and overlay them to see how they will fit before buying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqn8k3tVl6c
if done correctly it will tell you if your feet hot spot at all, if the last shape is good for your foot, if you should size up for width or down for narrowness, if sizing up for width is even possible without the shoe getting too long etc etc. its still possible to get it wrong but it takes ~so~ much of the guess work out of the equation.
i post this all the time in sneaker thread but the users there have goldfish attention spans. this video should be in the OP of all their threads. game changer for me i used to never buy shoes online. now i buy shit i can't return with confidence.
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>>18247073
you can actually get jack purcells from converse japan for about $40 that are as good as the 90s vintage pairs people pay $600+ for yellowed ass dry rotted pairs from resellers for.
nike completely FUCKED the jack purcell when they bought converse hence why no one wears it anymore. if you've ever had a desire to have a pair tack them on your order next time you proxy shit from japan.
and BTW the converse japan made in indonesia stuff is not the same factory as converse international uses. the converse made in japan indonesia stuff is to a much higher standard around quality level of converses you used to get in the 90s.
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>>18247452
Maryland detected
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>>18247491
solid guess but washington. my entire extended family wants to leave but the elderly in our family refuse to move and we're not the type to let them to rot all alone in an old folk home.
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>>18247489
>you can actually get jack purcells from converse japan for about $40 that are as good as the 90s vintage pairs
Link to these?
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>>18247521
Washington state has niggers? What on earth for?
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>>18247532
to terrorize the local white/asian/indian population and commit insane amounts of property crime. i have an attempt on my life or robbery attempt around once every year or two living here.
its a free for all out here and crime rates do not reflect it because our activist DA's never convict and most murders they classify as a missing person. i'm just glad i moved the fuck out of cap hill before the CHAZ bullshit.
i moved out of the city proper when the city took away our dumpsters and made us use giant clear plastic bags because a local serial killer was dumping so many bodies in trashcans. there's no news stories about said serial killer, 1 local radio show covered it, and it was briefly talked about in a city council meeting. there's a massive coverup of violent crime rates here. they only charge you if you're white. courts are very racist here but not in the way npc's think. i did way more prison time for brandishing on a mexican holding me at gunpoint than the guy who murdered my friend got for shooting her in the throat cold blooded at her birthday party. they let him out on work release 3 months into his sentence to "work" for his grandpa. i'm not even fucking joking. i hope the north koreans or russians glass this shit hole city.
i got way more stories but this is getting way off topic. never been punked or robbed though!

>this was filmed 2 blocks over from my old apartment, i had 2 robbery attempts near here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXTYLzoroRU

>seattle doesn't investigate rape anymore unless the victim is underage
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/seattle-police-halted-investigating-adult-sexual-assaults-this-year-internal-memo-shows/

>both these documentaries kind of downplay how bad it is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ijA2dv5Bss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

>>18247527
https://converse.co.jp/collections/shoes/mens+canvas+jack-purcell
https://converse.co.jp/collections/addict/mens
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>>18247543
Vancouver, WA resident here. I used to live in Portland for a couple years before I decided to move into my current wife's house across the state line. The crime in the NW cities is fucking absurd and after moving to the suburbs I pretty much just full-force embraced racism towards non-whites and non-asians. I couldn't even imagine living in Seattle. That god-forsaken city has its head shoved so far up its ass, and to make it 10 times worse the living expenses and population density is just fucking retarded lol.

My wife and I have decided to move up to Alaska when she finishes school in a couple years. Her folks live up there, and theres tons of opportunities for skilled work and higher income. On top of that, the people in Alaska are very friendly and there really isn't any nigger activities. The natives there are alcoholics, but even if somebody attempts to steal any of your property within your dwelling, you're legally allowed to shoot to kill. Its honestly a necessary right to have up in a place thats more rural and off grid and it seemingly keeps people behaved.
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>>18246732
Baggy shit is the most unflattering slop on this planet
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>>18247821
i do it all.
skinny enough?
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>>18247821
From what I gather I'm a couple years older than that anon. There was a time in the láte 90s to early 00s in which you could only get baggy or loose jeans. Even the 501s at that time were baggy. And don't get me started on the twisted outer seam fad.
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>>18247553
Niggers
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>>18247851
probably, 90.
yeah true blacks were wearing baggy stuff all through the 90s. mix between sizing up kinda wide fits like my webm and jnco tier stuff.
i remember where i grew up the fits were more like this https://www.thezoereport.com/fashion/90s-jeans-outfits were popular. you can see the baggy ones on there are all upsized.
i forgot all about that stuff. fashion wasn't as homogenized yet the 90s had a lot wider range of fits people wore.
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Anyone else hate cuffs?
I cant wear cuffed jeans.
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>>18247916
No, I like them. Don't cuff if you don't want to.
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Anyone else like wearing pants that are 2 inches bigger than your actual pants size? I'm a size 34 but I wear 36 with a belt because it's more comfortable this way
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>>18247986
Manlet mentality
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>>18247988
I mean around the waist you stupid nigger I'm 6'4 my god you guys are fucking insufferable
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>>18247961
The problem is the inseam shrinks so if i buy jeans that fit just right, a few months later the inseam is too short..

Is there anyway to wash jeans without shrinking the inseam? Anyone knows?
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>>18248004
hang weights and clamps when you dry but its no guarantee and usually only lessens it.
i just rock the single cuff for the first year or whatever and guess the shrinkage. i'm fine if i wind up with a longer inseam than anticipated but i don't like cropped jeans so i err on the long side.
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>>18248004
Sanforized jeans will shrink over time, not to tge same degree than unsanf, but they will. I would advise you to size up the inseam if posdible, wear and wash a few times and then get them hemmed to an appropiate lenght.
On jeans I don't intend to cuff I like a bit of break and stack, so even if the shrink a bit further, there's still enough fabric.
If you want non break jeans from the get go, accept that eventually you'll wear flood pants.
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>>18247991
Kek get on my level son
t 180cm Chad
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Are brown jeans effay? How do you even style them?
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>>18248004
Just buy em a bit too long and wash them jesus fucking Christ get a goddamned clue
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>>18248299
No. Just buy a pair of brown straight cut chinos. Also, the cut on those is fucking hideous.
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If you guys are looking for a pair of samurai’s, just get a pair of S3000 and forget everything else they have. This along with the Flat Head 3004 is the most flattering relaxed cut out there
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>>18245804
i dont very thick thighs, but i do have wide hips. i do my best to hide it and as such the oversized trend has been great for me, but id rather concentrate on a smaller wardrobe of good quality stuff
the jeans in your pic look great, but i was wondering if a cut like this would be more likely to exaggerate hip size or do a good job at allowing it to blend in at least slightly
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>>18248404
I too suffer from this affliction and wider jeans are flattering on me
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>mfw just received 21.5 oz "gauntlet heavyweight" from bravestar
>only had 11 and 14 oz before
holy fuck who wears shit like this?
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>>18248562
Only a few companies have really perfected the 21 oz denim, iron heart and samurai included. IH’s 21 oz uses long staple cotton which makes it very soft from the get go, and samurai has a relatively loose weave which makes it break in pretty easy. Beside that though, 21 oz is just kind of unpractical. The most well balanced weight exists at 16-18 oz. Not too light, but has some substance to it without being stiff and dense
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>>18248562
Nobody. They are a novelty item. Anything above 14 or 18 is impractical.
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>>18248562
i hate to be an asshole but durability basically means "takes forever to break in." that's what you paid for
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>>18248299
Yes I like my sugarcane Okinawa pic related jeans
>>18248311
Straight chinos are nice too. I like my samurai sj42cp
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>>18248562
I used to wear the heavy weight shit. Sometimes it’s great, but in the big picture it’s a meme. The primary function of heavier denim is to crease harder and form super high contrast fades. After getting into selvedge for a while, you start to realize that high contrast fades are very tacky, tryhard, and childish. The best fades are a balance of some contrast with more evenly distributed, vintage fading, which is typically best achieved with denim weights ranging from 14-18 oz. If you want high contrast fades, they look best with more mid weight denim since you get some nice drape and softness to the touch, whereas high contrast fades on heavy denim are still too dense and rigid even after 12+ months of wear. Bravestar is honestly one of the worst offenders of the heavy weight sick fadez cringe. On top of that, their details just scream “cowboy honky tonk rough blue collar working man”, which is a super niche, limiting image to be pigeon holed into. I know I just kind of vomited a word salad, but in summary heavier denim is just not practical at all and it only exists for people to be tryhards. A true denim patrician will always opt for 1940s-60s vintage 501 cuts and 14-18 oz
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>>18248589
So you're telling me I won't look like a cool badass with my 21 oz jeans and PNW logger boots?
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>>18248597
t No boots fag
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Anyone wear cargo pants? I use to wear cargo shorts while traveling because it’s easy to store things in the pockets.
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>>18248597
I mean, it just depends if you’re actually a badass and are going to be putting in legitimate wear and tear into your boots and jeans. If you are limp wristed and soi, it’s going to be the uncanny valley. I actually have no issue with PNW since they are legitimately made super robust and are practical for winter footwear, but a pair of jeans or pants will make or break a fit in my opinion. Levi’s 501 repro cuts are always going to be a safe bet. They’re the most universal and versatile jeans that will practically work well with a lot of different styles such as prep, grunge, PNW outdoorsman, vintage, etc
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>>18248599
>mfw unironically have whites perry selects, custom nigs 8" loggers, franks rainiers, and custom franks front ranges
t. live in PNW so get an excuse
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>>18248605
They’re legit the best “mass produced” boots in the US. Yeah the QC on those boots isn’t going to be as good as a pair of $1200+ Shenki horsehide Japan-made boots, but that’s kind of the point. They are built robust and primal with no finesse
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>>18248562
I bought a jacket of it to pick blackberries. Realized I was retarded immediately
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>>18248562
i hard agree with this >>18248589 guy. i've been into japanese selvedge for 20 years and the longer i've been into it the more i've gravitated towards a strong preference for mid and light weights. 17oz is the heaviest i would realistically go these days.
don't get me wrong my naked and 21oz famous straight cut elephant 1's, 3's, and 21oz samurais that i wore so hard they turned into thick blanket pants are some of my favorite jeans i've ever owned in my life. i gifted them on and those guys are still wearing them.
but realistically... 12.5-14oz is the best weight over all for durability... its the most wearable... the yarn arrangement weave tension and cotton staple length actually matters more than the weight for durability... it drapes the best... just the best jeans...
i also wear jeans in the 6-10oz range. my ~10oz extra long staple small yarn tight weave jeans have been through hell and the only blowouts are where the stacks crease and where i cuff them. insanely durable my go-to for summer construction work outside.

>>18248597
>>18248605
if you were going to own 1 pnw boot which one would it be? i had a pair when i was doing WTA shit every weekend but the size never was quite right (my fault) so i sold them. it was a long time ago i heard some brands went to shit or got better or this or that since.
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>>18248604
what if i have more man card than virtually every millenial and zoomer within a 300 mile radius but i'm a turbo manlet?
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>>18248597
when i sold my logging gear on grailed almost all of it was bought by different guys in portland with the last name nguyen for some reason.
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>>18248718
> if you were going to own 1 pnw boot which one would it be?
Some people will say they’re overpriced, but the original handwelted Whites 350 Cruiser in their roughout leather. I guess it would be up to you to decide which sole you like best, but the vibram mini lug is just hard to beat. The roughout leather is great too, pretty much the optimal material for a real “shitkicker” type boot that can take whatever you throw at it. The arch support in Whites is just kind of unmatched in my opinion, and there’s something to be said about essentially being the first boot maker in the northwest

>>18248721
Honestly, go for it. They will at least give you some level of height increase

>>18248723
Lol I live in a Portland suburb and that makes a lot of sense. A lot of Vietnamese people live in the Portland metro area, and a shit ton of SE Asians are into the whole selvedge leather boot combo
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just got the twitter menswear guy memebelt. i didn't plan on wearing it with denim but i reaaaaally like the pairing. its more comfortable than my 1.25 and 1.5" belts when worn at the waist and i think looks better. the buckle design isn't the most secure but the belt seems strong thick and well made for a cheap belt. but what i really love about it is that it actually sits fully over top of my back cinches, making the jeans look much much cleaner looking in the rear.

>>18248765
i maxed out every other genetic slider so ive never been insecure about my height and we have opposite girl problems. i wear flats or close most of the time haha. tall boots always feels weird.
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being short's actually been a huge advantage with my kickboxing. i have a 77" reach and long legs true genetic freak stuff. i find tall guys the easiest matchups because i out reach them but i'm more muscularly dense. short squat dense grapplers are my worst matchup.
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>Lol I live in a Portland suburb and that makes a lot of sense. A lot of Vietnamese people live in the Portland metro area, and a shit ton of SE Asians are into the whole selvedge leather boot combo
true it makes sense all my buyers would be asian since its all small size stuff with patina. man i regret selling my filson tin pants and short cruiser and my filson x levis waxed canvas type iii. biggest regret sells. i gave them a deal.
i had no idea you guys had seamonkey denimheads in portland. the ones around here have no fashion sense they wear the tackiest things. polo shirts covered in gold print and fake designer stuff.
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>>18248796
>i had no idea you guys had seamonkey denimheads in portland
There's a Self Edge in Portland and a lot of SEA, so it only makes sense
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>>18248800
true blueowl's like 45min from where they're concentrated in wa and the black people mall is like 2 minutes away.
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>>18248785
The perfect height is 5'10" but you guts won't admit it because girls like nice round numbers.
I'm euro so the manlet cutofg here is 180cm (roughly 5'11", I beleive). I'n 178cm (5'10") and honestly twos two cm are hatdly noticeable, as in you could only tell if I was standing side by side with a 180cm guy.
I could fraud and say I'm 180 but any girl that cares so much about two cm she can't tell and because she likes nice round numbers ain't worth my time.
As a side note, I've a friend who is 182cm but his hips and shoulders are lower than mine. He's only taller because he's got a massive boulder of a head. As in another friend says you could write The Lord of the Rings on his forehead with a thick marker and still have room for the appendixes.
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>>18248586
So, they turn kind of beige/khaki when they start fading to to a light wash level? I can live with that. Brown with khaki fades doesn't seem bad at all.
>>18248311
I'll get brown chinos too. Already have some in khaki and olive green. Now I need them in brown and navy blue.
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>>18248882
>>18248299
yeah its effay.
but get something naturally dyed like persimmon dye or something. it will look and most importantly age so much better. and the color tones of natural dyes just always look better too me, they're not as stark and not as one dimensional.
they tend to be limited runs especially in the good cuts so just get a pair on the secondary market. use yahoo auctions japan not just the western sites like ebay. you can get dealz because yen's weak and stuff like that is less rare there. and you'll find stuff you'll just never see over here on there. shipping/proxy fee isn't much.

>>18248586
my first though was 'something like the sugar cane persimmon dyes'
very nice anon.
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>>18248882
they're not quite jeans but i'm also a fan of 5 pocket duck canvas pants. for the same weight they're a bit harder wearing, more protective and less breathable than denim.
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>>18248882
also a big fan of these mocha brown cotton sateen 5 pockets. its tough, but not quite as tough as denim. breathable, great in hot weather, it becomes very soft over time from repeated frequent washings instead of getting worse, doesn't wrinkle.
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>>18248882
can never go wrong with corduroy either. dark browns are the best color for cords. you can have fun with them though there's several other s / a+ tier colors. great fall winter fabric. looks nice, feels nice, stretchy without elastine and has a velvety soft handfeel. hard wearing similar to denim -- more abrasion resistant than but tears more easily.
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>>18248718
>if you were going to own 1 pnw boot which one would it be?
i really like my Franks, and the firefighter last fits me better than the 55. franks still does a handsewn stitchdown like whites and they still do a fit sheet with way more measurements than the brannock
i also hate 6" boots, 8" feels way better and is more comfortable and doesnt suck to break in
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>>18248589
>Bravestar is honestly one of the worst offenders of the heavy weight sick fadez cringe
Hey! Do not speak like tgat in front of my Bravestars
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Buying my first denim, 12 oz. Seller says they will shrink 1-2 cm in the waist and 2-3 cm in length after washing, should I go 1 size up my body measurements tp be safe? They also have an adjuster in the back
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>>18249117
the shrinkage in the waist stretches back even on unsanforized denim the shrinkage in the inseam does not.
and those estimates assume you wash cold and hang dry, so they shrink more if exposed to hotter temps or dried -- useful to know for dialing in fits especially the inseam.
the main reason to size up is for a looser fit -- a lot of repro type jeans look fine tts or upsized 1-3 so its kinda your choice on if you want a slim or how loose of a fit and what looks best on your physique.
the other big reason'd be thigh room if one has big thighs (waist is not as important if one does)
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>>18249126
my butt is medium-small, these >>18245752
are the jeans in question, they are naturally large all over and have a high rise. Loose high rise is problematic as the jeans will wear lower and ruin it for me, too tight is also a problem. I have less room to fuck up sizing, and they will send them from china, will take like 2 months. What would you do? these are the actual sizes
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>>18249128
the cinch will help with your small ass.
so with those you need to decide if you want to go more like tts in the waist wear them a bit slimmer and use a belt / the cinch to keep them up or if you want to go for the full on early century look and get suspenders and upsize the shit out of them (they were 1 size fits all or close to it back then)

>as the jeans will wear lower
nq sure which you mean:
you mean like fall down over time? depending on your body shape and how much space you have between your hip shelf and ribs a lot of guys need a whole different belt for high rise pants than lower rises. a lot of body shapes need a different size belt. and thin belts are more comfortable at the waist. personally i can wear a 1.5" but its not ideal and i feel it dig into my hip when i crouch/squat. and when i'm heavier and my torso's more rectangular i find my 1.5" belts less secure than my 1.25". i actually like this 1" belt i just got more than the standard 1.25" with anything around like 12.5-14" rise here's it on a 14" rise. i've only had it a day but its more comfortable and secure.
or do you mean you're worried the rise won't be quite tall enough on your body? size for the rise instead of waist. these trousers are pretty adjustable because they're from 1 size fits all era. the buckle back gives you some lee way.
if you're a fitbro or husky really anyone with a big thigh size thigh/rise and just make sure waist is within a reasonable range.

>too tight is also a problem
sounding like upsizing may be the way how afraid of suspenders are you? look up fit pics of belafonte those red tornados are reproductions of them so other than one using number sizing the other using tag sizing they're cut the same.

>What would you do?
wholly depends on my build. but i'd upsize no matter what. even on my skinny frame. like 1-3" if i was belting probably a lot more if i was using suspenders look at belafonte's instagram page and website theres fit examples of both ways.
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char limit
but yeah man these are jeans not directly reproed from but based on and faithful to an era where jeans came in like 1-3 sizes adapted to letter sizing (belafonte) or number sizing (red tornado)
they're designed so it can adjust down to any body, although aesthetic wise getting the right sizing definitely matters, they have more wiggle room. the only way to fuck up is go too slim really.
sufu unknown japanese brands thread has some fit pics and info on them too in it.
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info will be on the belafonte version but the cut on their pleated pants is the same. sizes will translate other than they may land between 2 sizes on the red tornado chart.
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>>18246685
I did it as a tiny tot when I somehow assumed the buckle should be on the side. Later I saw Cobra and started it again.
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>>18249140
>>18248784
I was considering either that meme belt or this meme belt
(bison leather from nicks boots)
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>>18249246
oh man that's NICE in black. they're such different black on brass belts and the tory's so cheap consider both. especially if you wear trousers and chinos a lot if just denim go with the nicks. i'm loving the 1" size and the tory's maxing out how nice you can ask a ~$40 belt to be.
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>>18249140
>the cinch will help with your small ass.
It's a nice thing to have, never had one before. Also perfectly sized high rise makes my mediocre ass look fantastic, it's a cheat code both for manlets and slim people really, the reason why it's the only rise I wear outside of super hot summers.
>upsize the shit out of them
I don't plan on using suspenders, they do look nice but I'm pushing it already with my 100% used/vintage wardrobe, and at 25 I'm not old enough for that quite yet (it's very cool they have the inner buttons to allow that though).
>or do you mean you're worried the rise won't be quite tall enough on your body?
exactly. The cinch makes this less of a problem as you saiy. I agree I should use the combined front and rear rise to determine where they will sit on my waist and compare with my other trousers. I'll try to be between tts and 1 size up when ordering, can't wait to have them.

Funny you mention belts and slim ones in particular, just been looking for them with not much luck, not even a normal brown one with golden buckle. Might have to look for the women ones, my waist isn't large anyway. This one is cool.
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>>18249267
Yeah I may just get both and go full meme
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lowkey want this python one too
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>and at 25 I'm not old enough for that quite yet
i feel that you're doing better than me i was still only streetwear denimbro'ing at your age. around 35 i'm starting to not feel even slightly weird in anachronistic stuff nor does it get weird reactions from anyone if anything i notice way more people stop me when i'm walking my dog and chat me up all friendly when i'm wearing that stuff than when i'm wearing other more modern shit in my wardrobe. hell the last two days i was walking around with a giant scary looking hunting knife from the 50's on my belt in jeans and a tucked tee in a rich yuppie/boomer community and not a single person i walked past or even at the grocery store seemed weirded out, every dog walker stopped and chilled for an extended period of time, manager of the only local store with a no firearms policy didn't give a fuck and though it was cool lol. because i look super clean cut and not sketch, got a smile on vibin and i treat elders with respect like my momma told me. also a good deal of boomers just automatically respect you if you're wearing a tucked shirt lmao.

>>18249297
i love bison everything. i have a lot of bison wool its such good stuff. its apples oranges tied with qiviut for the best technical wool in the world depending on exactly which traits you value most. bison is rugged as SHIT i have some filson gloves purchased 2008 i've felled tons of trees in, taken on every hike when its not summer, wear all the time in fall winter casually and i haven't even had to use a fucking pilling shaver on them yet. i've picked pills off them by hand like twice. the only thing that seems to damage it is velcro and even then, slowly. its warm, hypoallergenic, doesn't shrink when washed, can be lower micron and softer than cashmere while being this strong and it has way better thermal properties than most wools. qiviut's better thermals not as rugged ime. chinese yak is a close third and can be cheap.
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>>18249285
i think snakeskin is very aesthetic but i could never wear it because i have a python and it would give her the wrong idea.
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>>18249140
I'm very jealous that you guys are easily able to get these in America.
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>bison wool
its also genuinely like THE most ethically harvested wool the only way they're allowed to is to set up giant circular comb things in the grazing areas for them to groom themselves at will. and they like it, it feels good for them. no shearing or forced harvesting. and whenever you buy bison products its directly going towards re-population efforts because its set up so they have to in order to harvest it. an example of a shitload of federal regulations actually working for once, as the population has gone way up since these programs began. i only know all this stuff cause i knew someone involved in the repop efforts back in the day when it started.
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>>18249321
neat. i was thinking of buying a bison wool beanie for winter. any recs on companies?
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>>18249335
i've handled almost every brand that makes them. they're all good. same wool so go with the shape/knit you like best that's the only diff. mine's a herd wear. love it to pieces.
the bison wool liner glove + bison leather glove sets are pure kino when it gets cold out. the liner thickness ones aren't as rugged as the full thickness wool but they're gonna last forever if you're not doing bushcraft shit in them kek. and the liner thickness is gonna cover most your weather range and look better.
i wear a set of full thickness fingerless ones all the time in the fall too. i have pretty bad raynaud's syndrome my hands turn purple when its like 55*f out.
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>>18249335
heres the palms of my most worn, hardest worn oldest pair, they're right next to me i had them on his morning. these are the ones i tend to have on most when i'm using hand tools and doing things to abuse them. that includes like ~4-5 years of going out once or twice a week and doing finishing/maintanence work on trails with hand tools. a lot of grading and raking, digging stumps by hand, dislodging boulders with rock bars and other shit that would destroy a lesser glove in one go. and also i just wear them a lot in the fall. i don't baby them.
also the fraying at the fingertips wasn't there a month ago i was dog sitting someone who's leash had some velcro shit on it that chewed them up and i haven't gotten around to cleaning them up w/ some scissors again. velcro is literally the only way to hurt them.
pilling last cleaned up a year ago half-assedly. washed once.
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>>18249375
those are in really good shape especially considering the heavy use. are they like a 90/10 blend of wool/nylon?
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the herd wear beanie idk where it is i'll post a pic of it later. that thing gets thrown haphazardly in my backpack and jostled around with my gear EVERY time i'm in the woods and its not summertime. i don't take good care of it. its also 16 years old. its got some fuzz to it but if i sat there for maybe a half hour and trimmed it it'd look brand new. never done anything to maintain it.
some of my non bison beanies can outperform it on thermals for sure. weave is everything with beanies and i've been able to find tighter knits with other wools just whats on the market. but with bison and qiviut you can have a super loose weave and still have it be warm and rugged... but also breathable. so the bison beanie isn't endgame in vvv cold weather but its my favorite one to wear because it doesn't feel like i have anything on my head. also up until start of 2024 i had hair ranging from chin to mid back most of the time and the more performant tighter knit ones'd fuck my hair up. both have their place.
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>>18249383
yeah iirc everything i have is 90/10 other than one thing and i forget which garment it is.
innawoods when its not mountaineering tier weather my head layering system is filson rugged twill or tin cloth logger cap + the bison beanie + all my hiking jackets have hoods -- if i bring the whole thing. covers all pnw weather. high lanolin wools in a tight knit can do better in the rain, but won't be nearly as temperature regulating. i just take it off in downpours and if its cold enough to need it it cant rain anyways.
lol g0ys captcha
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even the tag feels nice on the skin i normally would remove it.
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here's the worst part of the gloves & last pic.
a little foreskin trim, pick out a few pills and they're back to new again.
the beanie looks rougher than the gloves because its woven very loosely but it will clean up just as good. the beanie actually does see a lot of abuse though, i don't use stuff sacks and i don't really baby it i'll just throw it on the ground if my head gets hot around the fire or w/e. when i clean it up ill post a fit pic. it'll look better on you tho i have the least ideal skull shape for beanies. its gear for me.
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>>18249335
>thinking of buying a bison wool beanie for winter
If you are okay with the particular design i think these are probably the apex in terms of being thick and warm. It is 10% nylon for improved durability
I wish this company made a more traditional watch cap style.
https://thebuffalowoolco.com/products/bison-beanie
Most of the other brands selling bison beanies are relabeling stuff from this company btw
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>>18249432
>https://thebuffalowoolco.com/products/bison-beanie
yeah i forgot what company makes it all but its all relabel from one place. and i agree that's the best bison one i've seen. i've found better knits in other wools but it looks solid. check out qiviut beanies too they're a bit warmer. if you want a more water resistant beanie get a wool with lanolin. i find lanolin free wools do fine with snow and i don't see a woven beanie as a rain garment but from a casual wear perspective it might be useful. problem is most lanolin containing wools are superwashed which removes it. buying wools that don't need superwash to not shrink in the first place is a good way around it.
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>>18249432
i definitely bought mine as a fashion item and it turned into gear kek. i think the one you linked's the same as the one on my future gear upgrades list but its lower prio.
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>>18249432
oh also i know for sure buffalo wool co made the filson gloves. it either said on the website or someone i knew at filson told me i forgot which.
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Getting my wranglies tomorrow.
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>>18249546
what kind
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>>18249605
13mwz, they match pretty well with ropers and engineers
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>>18249635
Yeah they are pretty good for shooting Multi-ropers, that's true
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>>18249605
I'm not >>18249635 but that faggot janny stalker gave you my actual answer.
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For all you niggers on here that have been hounding for some black straight cuts, Self Edge just restocked the black Sugarcane 1947
https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2809
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>>18249669
Isn't 100% cotton thread greatly inferior to pollycotton?
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>>18249669
Wasn't right hand inferior to left hand?
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>>18249669
I wanted to get these but they were out of stock until now, so I instead I planned to buy the MF black straights. I still think I'm going to buy the MFs
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>>18249686
>Isn't 100% cotton thread greatly inferior to pollycotton?
Yeah but i gotta have my vintage frayed thread for authentic wabi sabi
Ive beat the shit out of some 100% cotton thread jeans and the worst that happened to any of them was one of the back pockets coming apart when they were already thrashed. Never had a structural part of the jean fail.
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>>18249686
I beat the crap out of the slim version for many many years and never had to do a single repair
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>>18248998
wtf is this scrawny midget fashion cancer
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What are the cheapest (not $500) hank-dyed jeans?
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>>18249822
hes based
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>>18249827
>What are the cheapest (not $500) hank-dyed jeans?
They are pretty much all 500+ unless i missed something.
I think the japs do it by hand with naturally fermented indigo and that brings the price waaay up.
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>>18249827
These might be rope dyed, requires further research
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/top884/or-1089w/?variantId=2126
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>>18249822
>41.95% of men his age are morbidly obese
>you're bitching about this guy
internet weight lifting forums rotted your brain. you can be in great shape without training arms. going for purely aesthetic or purely strength isn't the only type of being fit. he's a 60 year old man with 60 year old man testosterone levels. he's probably staying in shape for his health and to maintain his active lifestyle not to pick up girls and boulders.

>wah he's short
whooooo cares
as i said earlier
tall guys are my easiest matchup lol #stilts
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>>18249827
>>18249900
ive seen gustin do runs of hank dyeds for around $300 but two things: a) fit's everything especially on jeans that expensive. b) how good the hank dye job is directly correlated with the skill of the guy doing it and how much dye they use.
there's some jeans out there that simply fade slow as shit and are dyed pretty close to the core without being hank dyed. they actually tend to be cheaper non ringspun selvedge from mid tier brands ime because all the high end stuff's ringspun which keeps the core super white.
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>>18249822
>level of fitness
there's like an 80/20 chance you can't do a head kick. 20% chance you're an mma guy or into yoga and i eat my hat. also its easier for you to do than him too because your legs are probably longer. and he's doing it in jeans which make it way harder. if i'm wrong post a pic of you doing one lol.
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>>18249922
>>18249930
FREEDOM PILL'T
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vintage mij becker lighters, they were my grandpa's. they're thin enough to fit in a wallet but very sturdy.
i consider all the objects i carry with me accessories to my fit, even if it goes in my pocket.
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>>18249930
I think I'm gonna start wearing my belt buckle to the side because it implies:
>you might be riding a motorbike
>you might be carrying
>you might kick someone in the head
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iso a long sleeve work shirt.
>not interested in super heavy weight
>not weird repro japanese unobtanium etc. just a normal shirt
>reasonably priced since i actually work and it's getting trashed
>one or two chest pockets
>black, navy, denim, all acceptable im not picky and neither is bossman
basically i'm sick of dickies seams blowing out. what do?
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>>18250122
If I was in your situation I'd go thrifting and get the cheapest denim shirt I could find that merts that criteria.
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Uhh ohh my wranglies are here!
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>>18250144
I feel like these are the same ones Americans get.
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>>18250150
>>18250144
Daaamn bros they fit like a dream. I'm a literal sexgod with these on. Do wranglies shrink? Please say no because my juicy thigs are fitting in just right. I also hope my red tornadoes fit well, because the dude on ebay insisted I get a 33 waist instead of a 34 and these 34 wrangs are just perfect. Fuck I'm so hot in them.
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>>18250159
post cake
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>>18250150
Yes

>>18250159
>Do wranglies shrink?
Mine didn't, but I wash in cold (30°), delicate cycle, no spin. Then wring the excess water and hang dry making sure there's no wrinkles.
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>>18250165
Can't because I'm not home right now and the room with the mirror has pink walls.
>>18250166
That's how I wash all my clothes anyways. Let's gooo. I wonder if these get a good fade. Someone was saying they don't if they're black and the inside is also black or something, which these are. Should I not wash them for 3 months or is that only for selvedge?
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>>18250169
>Should I not wash them for 3 months or is that only for selvedge?
It's more about the dye than thevtype of fabric. Double black ususlly means the dye is really, really stuck to the fabric, so those will be slow faders.
If you wanna get a lot of contrast between the high fading parts vs the others, delay the first wash for as much as you can, then wash normaly. If you want a more homogeneous fade, just wash normaly from the get go.
Be patient anyway because those will take a long time and a lot of wears to fade.
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I just did it, bros. I got the jacket I was talking about a thread or two ago. It's nothing special, but I might post a pic tomorrow in order to not steal clout from the other anon and hisxwranglers.
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>>18250182
Considering they're black I don't want a big fade, but I want some contrast for flavor. Guess I have to wear them every day starting tomorrow and I gotta go out every day. But damn bro. These jeans plus my new shirt plus either my scarf or bolo tie I'm gonna get all the hoes. Just have to figure out a good pair of boots now.
>>18250188
Post your jacket lil bro. We wanna see it.
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I'm usually a 28 waist. I wear wrangler cowboy cut slim jeans. I wear them in 28 and at the waist they're perfect but they give me a big crotch bulge which looks and feels odd when in public. Should I get a 30 waist?
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>>18250195
You should eat food high in animal protein with your small ass.
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>>18249930
even in those ridiculous heels i'd catch his little size 8 foot under my armpit and slap his chops until somebody thinks it's going too far and stops me depending on the crowd it's usually a full minute of open hand punishment
he deserves it for wearing brown black and blue in the same fucking fit
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>>18250219
I do that and you can’t stop me. Might even add a green in there
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My black jeans are starting to get a sharp ammonia smell after only 3 weeks of wearing them 4 days on 3 days off. Will hanging them up outside help, or will I have to wash them?
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>>18250219
Why would you catch it instead of just dodging or blocking? It would still hurt unless you have fat pits.
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My wrangs don't smell and they don't need any breaking in. I thought denim had a break in process. Is that only for selvedge?
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>>18250241
Wranglers use a broken twill weave which is just superior like that.
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>>18250235
If I'm not mistaken that's because of sulfur involved in the dyeing process. It'll eventually go away but you'll have to live with it for a time. Or wash when they smell pretty bad.

>>18250241
To my knowledge only the rigid indigo 13mwz come starched, plus they're 14.5oz, so thicker than your mall tier jeans but not very thick or heavy. That's about the sweet spot to be robust and durable without sacrificing comfort. Even mu rigid indigo were pretty comfy from the get go if a bit on the stiff side.
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>>18250192
nta
its not that black x black fades slow... some jap stuff can actually fade rather quickly.
its that it takes a long time for the fades to have enough contrast to break through the optical illusion of blending into the matching background weft and become visibly apparent. they're there and the dye is crocking off before you can see them.
here's some of my just-barely-vintage rustlers i have on today. i dad washed these things every few wears and they were construction beaters for a bit, nice subtle low contrast fading.

>>18250235
black jeans will smell like a sewer until around wash 3-5 time or not sure the amount of time if you don't wash.

>>18250219
lol what kind of a bitchmale fantasizes about fighting 60yo men that far outside their weight class. go hit up your closest muay thai gym and get humbled by someone your size.

>>18250241
wrangler came in the game a little later than levi's and immediate comfort's something they focused on early on. broken twill jeans tend not to have as much of a break in, and wrangler doesn't starch them as heavily. as a result they tend to fade softly unless they fit really tight.
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blasting the exposure shows what i mean about fades being there but not showing. irl the jeans look half way between the two pictures. but a lot of this fading you see in the exposed photo isn't quite visible under normal lighting yet irl. some of it the camera didn't pick up last pic is.
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>>18250251
I stand corrected. Personally I've never had a pair of black x black jeans that faded to a very noticeably degree before I worn them until they were hanging by a thread and had to throw them away. Black on white weft, however, eventually faded into a pleasant dark grey.

Also yes, the broken twill is absolutely top notch when it comes to comfort. Be aware that wrangler doesn't use ot on all their stuff, at least in Europe.

Side note: euro sites for Wrangler and Lee use the exact same web design, does anybody know if they shate regional distributor? Just curious.
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>>18250259
ringspun stuff will fade better, a lot of cheaper stuff isn't ringspun so the dye's gonna penetrate a lot closer to the yarn and they do indeed need to be shredded to show anything.
wranglers aren't ringspun but i know rustlers fade i have a non dadwashed pair with better contrast. never done a pair of black wranglers proper.

>Side note: euro sites for Wrangler and Lee use the exact same web design, does anybody know if they shate regional distributor? Just curious.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/lee-wrangler-owner-vf-corp-to-split-into-two-separate-companies.html
and then edwin owns the liscence to both brands in japan and makes all the https://wrangler-jeans.jp/ and https://lee-japan.jp/ stuff.
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>>18250259
if you want black x blacks that fade amazing get graph zero's or something sumi ink dyed (warning will fuck up furniture and car seats)
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>>18250263
>jean sales drop 1%
>inmediately kills self

Also, I wish I was into denim and such ten years ago when I took a vacation trip to Japan, I would have bought soo much stuff.
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>>18250249
>>18250251
It smells like ammonia, rather than sulphur. Plus they didn't start to stink until just a couple days ago. I guess I'll just try hanging them outside tomorrow and hope for the best.
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Black Wranglers absolutely will fade, but it takes a long time. On the plus side, they have a felled outseam which will develop some sick contrast.
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>company
resident retard
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>>18250290
those are some nice looking wrangley dangleys anon. would you mind taking some laid flat pics in natural light sometime i really wanna see what they look like you never see decent black wrangler fade pics online.
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Brb going to walk to the store in order to fade my wrangloos. Will report with progress after.
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>>18250192
>Post your jacket lil bro. We wanna see it.
Here it is. It's just a Levi's premium jacket I snatched for 30 eurobucks. As I mentioned a thread or two ago, Don Draper wore a similar one in the last season of Mad Men and it caight my eye. I just stumbled upon this one and was fiercely debating with myself about getting it or not because I already got more jackets than what I know to do with them.
The jacketvis actually pretty nice for what itbis. Linning is 80/20 cotton/poly including the sleeves, which at this range are usually nylon or polyester.
The jacket is heavy and looks warm, at least warm enough for the winters where I live.
The problem is that I have just one pair of midwash jeans at the moment, so time to get a new pair in a similar wash?
The ride never ends, doesn't it?
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>>18245737
>wear wranglers for a long time
>get into boots
>every time
>literally every time
>get out of vehicle and the pant leg pulled up over the boot and wont go back down
>get a pair of LEE for nothing at second hand store because my size
>doesnt pull up over the boot ever despite same leg length
>buy lee pants from then on
>they only last 2 years and fade fast

am i retarded how do I fix this, what other brands should I try
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Managed to find a pair of deadstock OG-107's in a size 30. I am however a bit unsure about the fit around the waist and hips. Feedback anyone

Yes, I unironically had my mom take a the photos.
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>>18250339
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>>18249928
Thanks, any specific non-ringspun dyeing techniques that go pretty deep to look out for? 100% with you on fit, something like this >>18249904 might be cool if 98% of people didn't look like they were swimming in them, not sure what it is with certain models having the most awful cuts known to man
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>>18250339
>>18250340
fit looks good, those are second patterns so they're supposed to fit more tailored like that. my pic i posted earlier are first patterns and maxing out the waist adjusters which has a looser silhouete.

>>18250343
they're reproducing jeans from a time period where jeans weren't a fashion item but rather strictly workwear, and they only came in a few sizes if any so they had to fit the widest range of bodies possible with full range of motion. they had features to adjust the upper block to fit guys who are smaller than the jeans.
you're looking for the most non-fading black jeans possible? several brands have done runs of reactive dyed jeans but they're always limited run.
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also damn deadstock nice find.
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>>18250339
>deadstock OG-107's
Based on what i see on ebay when you wash them they will shrink 3-4 inches in the waist
Maybe that's just from them being industrially laundered in hot water and hot dryers but something to look out for
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>>18250338
>>get out of vehicle and the pant leg pulled up over the boot and wont go back down
>manually pull the pants down into place
It's not that hard, anon
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>>18250360
washing cold hang drying will certainly minimize that. good looking out anon. while we're at it make sure you launder them to military standards aka don't use a detergent with uv brighteners in it. woolite anything with dark in the name is a popular choice with military guys from what i can tell online so i'm p sure it meets code. otherwise they stop actually serving as camo after like ~8 washes.
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>>18246056
how is it compared to Twin Peaks? offtopic but I like how Dale Cooper was dressed, especially the suits
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>>18250338
Sounds like you're wearing too short of an inseam on the wranglers. That's the whole point of stacking.
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>>18250338
its probably some combination of your inseam and the leg opening. measure them and see if the leg openings on the one that do the boot thing are bigger or if the inseam's longer/shorter on them and look for jeans close in measurement accounting for shrinkage 3% for sanf 8% unsanf. as anon said inseam prly too short it could be a leg opening interaction with your specific boot too.
>lee
>like them but don't last long and fade too fas
try some vintage lee repros. i like lee and wrangler repro more than levi's repro personally. leepro is pretty end game. 30's to 60's era is the good stuff. earlier = looser workwear fit later = closer to a modern fit.

info: https://supertalk.superfuture.com/topic/35852-leepro-appreciation/page/67/
jap who makes them: https://www.jeans-neshi.com/mensjeanskan/lee/lee-vintage-menu.htm + https://www.jeans-neshi.com/mensjeanskan/lee/lee-work-menu.htm
edwin owns the liscence to lee in japan and makes real nice shit: https://lee-japan.jp/
and more. my favorite are sugar cane m series, a line of jeans from the 90's that had some very nice leepro and wrangler repro in it. you can find them on yahoo auc japan and such every so often.
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>>18250340
Nice ass king
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>>18250339
atrocious belt
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>>18250373
It's one of my all-time favorite shows and my comfy watch of choice. From back when tv writers were well-read and mostly on the smarter side.
It mixes magical realism with quirky characters without going overboard most of the time and contains reflections about human nature, relationships and stuff like that without being too preachy or on the nose. There's a lot of nuance in the writing and kerps a good balance between light entertainment and a thoughtful show.
Episodes are mostly self-contained and even though there's a bit of an arch for most characters, you can drop it and retake it later without misding a beat.
Be aware that the show is as 90s as can be, which can be a good or bad thing depending on personal taste.
It's a bit of a slow burn at the beginning and takes about half the first season before it gets to be what it really is.
I highly recommend to at least give it a shot.
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>>18250352
The most non-fading oe slowest-fading indigo jeans with lots of vertical slub. Essentially the closest thing to the PBJ Aizome. I already have a pair of reactive-dyed indigo jeans so these don't have to be reactive-dyed, they can be any type of denim. I specifically mentioned hank dyed because many hank dyed models have that very slubby texture with great color depth and are very slow-fading
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>>18250398
PBJ does some beautiful slubby jeans but this is too much slub, the high weight denim just makes it too much texture and contrast imo. Their lighter weight slubby jeans look fantastic
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>>18250402
Thoughts on Samurai’s Zero denim? Too much slub?
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>>18250414
>Thoughts on Samurai’s Zero denim?
Looks fantastic, samurai absolutely kill it when it comes to their denim fabrics when they aren't busy making 20oz+ memes
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>>18250434
Their zero fabric gives those gritty fades, im kind of into it
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I'm starting a denim fade diary. Not sure if I should take pics weekly or monthly or quaterly.
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>>18250461
Fuck, that looks so good.
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>>18250385
yeah idk about that one chief, i cant be spending $200 a pair when I tear up at least one a year or so at work or something. I dont live a basic life.
Are the modern ones in japan better or something? I go there every year but idk about hauling home a ton of em. I can fly there in my trackies and buy a couple pairs though day 1
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>>18250477
This too
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>>18250544
Indeed, but these pics always look like there's some filter going on and I wonder if achieving that color irl is actually possible.
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>>18250284
do you own a cat?
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>>18250505
feel that 31mwz's or rustler relaxed fits maybe upsized or round house jeans relaxed fit is like the best you'll get for cheap work beaters.
i used to wear my raws doing construction and never killed a pair i have two that survived the entire decade. i'd just retire them to fashion rotation before it happened and rotate a few pairs of work jeans. felt crazy not to harvest sick fades on the job. the looser repro cuts didn't get crotch blowouts or tears and lasted eternity. if abrasion's killing them though they won't last longer (duck canvas would be better than denim btw.) it depends whats killing your jeans if they will last significant longer in a wider fit and with xls vs short staple cotton or not. but they can last quite long.
think about it pre 40s repro jeans were designed for men to work in and built to last.
anything after that's made for fashion/style first. even modern workwear brands its all downstream of fashion design.
anyways consider it. if you're abrading jeans and getting chemicals/grime/stains on them though yeah 'spensive jeans won't fare any better.
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>>18250561
there is a filter and denimbros love to bump the contrast and saturation especially seamonkeys.
but you can get that sort of contrast irl or even more intense. maybe not the super deep dark blues from his photo editing on a indigo/undyed pair but on a indigo/indigo or indigo/black pair you certainly could achieve something like that.
you can see a bunch of examples in video without any fuckery on n&f's youtube channel just type fade review on the search.
if you look at the blue owl x momotaro fade pics on heddels and blueowl's website ive seen a couple of those guys pairs irl and their pics are accurate.
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definitely has to be done on denim made for fading though. you want the kind of jeans that bleed like a highlighter for that and consider spray starching them regularly (lot of those guys do)
you need the aerosol can kind, the diy and the cheaper squirt bottle kind will not work as we are not ironing the jeans.
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Somewhere deep inside you guys must realize all this talk about fades make you look silly af
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>>18251053
eh fades as a topic doesn't come up too often and we don't post fade pics that often. userbase on here cares a lot more about fit and actually looking good in their jeans its not sick fadez nut nuggers like reddit and ig.
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>>18251053
I'll never understand what people can actually dislike about raw or one wash denim. I can only assume it comes from people who like wearing pre-faded denim and feel self conscious when rawchads mog them with their elitism.

Somewhere deep inside they must feel guilty because they buy mass produced pre-faded garbage that's quite literally a soulless immitation of a well-loved pair of uniquely faded jeans. And yes, anyone who obsesses over sick fadez and practices disgusting shit like not washing for 12 months is defacing their beautiful pair of artisanal denim and a disgrace to jeans lovers everywhere.
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>>18251065
Well, I only buy mall jeans in the darkest wash, and fade them myself. It's the best of both worlds (cheap and muh sick custom fades).
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>>18251097
>those cuffs
embarrasing.
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>>18251039
The thhing with sick fadez for me is tgat I'm not as dedicated nor disciplined to invest a handful of years to achieve a specific look. My fades just happen organically with use and show how the jeans or jacket were worn.
Also, what do you do once you achieved the look you wanted? It's not like the jeans will stop magically fading. You just have a small window of how you want the jeans to look and then have to start anew with another pair.
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>>18251097
Absolutely nothing wrong with this. The only caveats are the quality and ethics of the garment.
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Thoughts?
>Mister Freedom® x Sugar Cane mfsc FW2024 LookBook Preview: “SUBMARINER” Collection
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>>18251065
Cope
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>>18251097
If you think it's just about fades you're missing the forest for the trees
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>>18251053
Female-brained hands typed this
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>>18251065
>a well-loved pair of uniquely faded jeans
They're just jeans. I'm going to have to ask you to get real.
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>>18251119
I actually think that after a certain point, your jeans just keep looking great despite them fading and aging more. The best look and feeling jeans have is when they're really worn in
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A really cool jeans brand i wish i found earlier. They only make four different models that all look and fit great. Its basicly all you need
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Uh oh Wranglerbros, 12 months and probably just under 300 hard wears later and I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for these 13MWZs. I guess this is why the Japautists love pure cotton thread, with the poly stitching you end up with increased wear along the seams.
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>>18251510
To be fair, at this point most mall jeans would have had a crotch blowout already, courtesy of my larger thighs and habit of aggressively manspreading.
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>>18251510
I think you got what you paid for. I have worn out jap jeans faster than that
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>>18251510
Sonit's either poly thread and have the fabric wear faster or cotton thread that will break before the fabric.

Anyway I've got big thighs (t...thanks, Rippetoe) and had levis and lees blow on me in a year. I have accepted that crotch blowouts are as inevitable for me as death itself.
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>>18251097
>wears selvedge denim from places like kaihara mills
>cares more about fit than fades
you're one of us fool.

>>18251510
you call that the light at the end of the tunnel? just reinforce it with some patches inside. heavy embroidery thread works or you can get the special sashiko thread for pretty cheap online, which isn't as shiny and makes the repair last through more wash cycles.
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>>18251538
Fair, but ime repairing the stitching is a little more sightly than having a fabric failure. Here's a pair of whogivesashit specials from the mall from a few years ago, crotch blowout within I think 9 months. Since repaired and so ugly that they're strictly choring/wfh jeans now, though admittedly it's pretty amateurish work. A seam failure would have been a little more work for a much better result.
Kind of interesting looking back to see where the pants blew versus where the Wranglers look like they're going to wear out. Truly, Big Thigh Gighs™ are an oppressed minority.
>>18251619
Nigga I'm sowing illiterate
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>>18251097
you're basically wearing raws with the starch taken out some of us do it the second we buy our jeans at home kek.
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>wear denim jeans
>thick legs for squats rub together
>ass rubs together like two rocks when I walk
>get chafing
>have to cream up my under ass and asshole


I haven't worn denim in years. fuck you assholes. eat a dick
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>>18251119
> My fades just happen organically with use and show how the jeans or jacket were worn.
im pretty sure thats with everyone buddy. unless your getting pre faded denim.
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>>18251658
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>>18251676
What I meant is that I don't do anything to favor one type of fades or a specific look. And no, that's not everybody.
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>>18251694
its not just what you do in them and how you wash them though its how they're dyed. when you see high contrast the person didn't necessarily go out of the way to achieve it. i have it happen naturally on anything close fitting.
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>>18251707
>the person didn't necessarily go out of the way to achieve it.
Keyword being necessarily, however you're asking me to ignore decades worth of threads on hiw to achieve x pr y fades or the advice repeatedly given in this very general almost threadly.
Some people don't try to speedrun gades or achieve a particular look, but many others in this niche do. And you know it.
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>>18251721
people don't just starch jeans for fades its done for texture too ever been to the south? all this denimfaggotry is over a century old it didn't begin online. and especially not on reddit their denim board wasn't even created until like 2010.
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>>18251721
my dad was born in like 1950 and he used to shrink his jeans while wearing them in the bath tub so they'd fit better and he lit up with joy when i told him they still make his favorite jeans. get over it.
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>>18251658
Size up and adjust the waist. You can also get jeans in athletic fit. Or just get one of those baggy jeans the kids wear these days.
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>>18251723
I don't know why you bring up reddit all of a sudden. But just to be clear, are you saying there isn't a big number of people doing stuff to artificially aging their denim in order to achieve a certain look?

>>18251726
OK, but I don't know what that has to do with the discussion at hand.
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>>18251733
who cares what some southeast asian instagram influencers do? most people just wear their jeans normal and put a little conscious thought into when they wash them and how they want them to look. forced fades is mostly just seen on social media no one here's doing that.

>OK, but I don't know what that has to do with the discussion at hand.
first thing 75+ year old man says: man i used to love how they'd fade.
my point is its not an internet thing people have been doing this as long as denim has existed.
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>>18251658
Rapidly ageing aggressive millennial
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>>18251739
>forced fades is mostly just seen on social media no one here's doing that.
And yet, people asked.

>first thing 75+ year old man says: man i used to love how they'd fade.
Something your old man and I have in common.
>my point is its not an internet thing people have been doing this as long as denim has existed.
Jeans fade organically, yes. I would argue, and you seem to agree, that forced fades are indeed an internet thing.
I still don't know why you got so defensive about this issue.
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>decide to wash a bunch of jeans I've been sweating on all summer
>get hit by a huge storm
Fucking great
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>>18251416
This. And there's no reason you can't start a new pair at that point. Or rotate a bunch of raw so that they all fade more slowly. There's no need to commit to the exact same pair day in and day out - Fades arent a speedrun.

My favorite jeans are LF smokestacks in black vidalia. I have 2 brand new pairs in storage for when these eventually give up the ghost. And I rotate these with:

>Flat Head 3004 for a tapered dark indigo jean that looks good with slimmer fits
>N&F Classic Elephant 12 for when I want an indigo repro look
>IH 888 in 21oz OD for when I can be assed to wear tight pants
>Wrangler 13mwz for shit kicking
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>>18251745
>>18251730

no. I have 1 pair of hugo boss denim and they are ok for now.

but god never again.

have a bubble butt + squat / deadlift ass and you try jeans again.

fuck off levi and japan denim shills
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>>18251937
>doesn't exercise cheek discipline
ngmi
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>>18251937
>thinks he’s bigger than prime Bill Kazmaier.
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>>18251937
If you post some measurements, there is an anon here with an encyclopedic knowledge of brands and fits.

He is a denim rainman and is really helpful. I am like you bubble butt, big ol’ tree trunk legs, and add a long inseam. I almost gave up, like you, but this anon came through with some solid fit recommendations.

It seems like this anon cannot help himself when it comes to helping people find denim that fits. It’s almost a compulsion. These threads are better because of his ‘tism.
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>>18250159
>>18250165
this the cringiest, faggoty shit i've ever read. kys.
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>>18251658
ripp claims another victim
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>>18252043
>>18251953
>>18251951
>>18251942

nope. just bigger guy I guess. fuck . my ass and legs so rashed from denim or any tight pants. 1/4 cup of squat between my ass cheeks all the time.
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>>18252053
belafonte ragtime, 1890-1930's repro especially lee repro, and denim military trouser patterns (navy and ccc made denim versions of many patterns)
1930's to ww2 era stuff qualifies as well but won't be quite as roomy. looks indistinguishable from modern jeans aka not as anachronistic though.

size for thigh diameter and rise measurement not waist. belt. 1930's stuff and military trousers will have waist adjusters to get a better waist to thigh ratio.
1920's and older patterns that support suspenders let you upsize even more and have the pants sit correctly if you're not opposed to it.
some of this stuff should accommodate 30"+ thighs without upsizing too much.

all this stuff's gonna be designed with a 200+lb man doing manual labor aka full range of motion, and wearing the same jeans through weight fluctuations in mind. work clothes were usually one size fits all so the same pair of jeans had to fit you and a skinny ass teenager. at best you got boys and mens size to pick from back then.
as such they're very generous in fit.
if you want /fit/ jeans look to ww2 era and prior. anything from 50's to modern era is downstream of fashion not practicality.
zoomer mall jeans right now are actually somewhat cut this way too. just won't have nearly as good a silhouette, quality or the adjustment features seen in period jeans.
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also if the 30's and prior era smokestack leg is too much on you, it makes a perfect starting point for tailoring the jeans. carrot leg akin to modern athletic fit was also common back then. not in jeans but with trousers and chinos certainly.
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tender & co 130 sized up to thigh size (picrel is tts) is a great option for a big thigh small/normal waist lifter bro jean with a taper not a total smokestack leg. some of you lifter bros get thigh diameter a little too big for these but otherwise they're perfect.
also they're made with one of my favorite denims of all time. it LOVES to crinkle and evolve with washes. and they do zesty naturally dyed colored weft stuff you'd expect from n&f not just plain ones if you're into that. on the pricy side though.
if you look up western fit pics its always tts ignore those. asians upsize their 130s look at those.
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unrelated but the /fit/bro cuts look very good on slim guys too. i love this picture of some redditor's grandpa in jeans in the 1940's
zoomers are gravitating back to it without knowing it because its so timeless.
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>>18252053
read this guy's blog post its about how to size jeans for your exact physique:
https://almostvintagestyle.com/2021/08/17/how-to-buy-raw-denim-sizing-your-jeans/
he was a chubby guy who lost weight not a /fit/bro lifter but its the same problem: small waist to huge thigh ratio. so everything he talks about applies to you only difference is his thighs have more fat in em.
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>>18252100
I have just moved from a slim cut to a generous straight cut. It was kind of weird at first but it looks a lot better in pictures and the mirror
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>>18252053
>rashed
>have to cream up my under ass and asshole
gold bond powder works way better. life saver. no shame in the game i had to when i was over 200.

>>18252106
i've always had and worn both fits in my wardrobe but for the first time i'm considering selling everything 'slim straight' or slimmer except a couple wall hanger pairs of raws. i have that small 'asian' type physique i just look better in this stuff. it sounds counter intuitive but skinny fit low rise stuff hides how in shape i am. because the waist line's so low.
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Denim bros, my wife washed my jeans while I was at work today because she said they smelled like a dead mouse. Is it over? How will I ever obtain the sickest fades now?
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>>18252100
literally me
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>>18252116
you'll have to pee on them
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>>18251937
>>18252053
>bubble butt
Well then, why do you squat so much to look like a negress? Isn't it already bad enough that you talk like one?
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>>18252190
They fell for the rippletits meme, it's happened to many of us, if why we have to wear jeans made for miners.
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>>18252053
Cut your leg volume down and do more cardio.

Went from squatting 3x/week and deadlifting 2x to 1x of each with only 5 working sets a piece. That plus running more has shaved 3/4" off of my thighs in a month. I went from barely squeezing into size 33 888s to having full ROM while wearing them. They're still nowhere near as comfy as straight fits but they're wearable at least
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>>18252092
>size for thighs and rise

Can you explain why rise is important for us big thigh guys? I know what the measurement is, but I don’t understand why it matters to guys with big thighs and butts.
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>>18250390
are you the fren who made the NE thread like a week ago? TP is my favorite show (maybe piece of media) of all time and your (?) description of NE made me want to give it another shot
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>>18252560
then you don't have a big thigh or ass LMAO you don't need people to explain this if they were actually big and you weren't just a fat fuck with an equally sized waist
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>>18252616
Wasn't me, but could have been because I love that show so much. Might rewatch TP afterwards, even if I risk a 90s nostalgia overdose. Honestly, give NE a shot. The first episodes are a bit weak, basically "what if Woody Allen was a doctor stuck in rural Alaska?", but once the show builds steam and finds itself, roughly halfway through the first season, it becomes an instant classic and a must see.
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>>18252560
Big butt+low rise=asscrack showing, bad feminine shilouette, uncomfortable
Big butt+high rise=ass in its place, good manly shilouette, comfy

Pretty sure someone else will say the same thing with more words
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>>18252633
I really do need help, man. I don’t get why the rise is important for big asses and thighs, and I’m genuinely trying to learn.

I also never said I didn't have a big waist. I’m built like a rectangle.
Thighs:28 inches
Waist:40 inches.
Hips >47.5 inches (only based on pants that I couldn’t fit into)

I sized those pants in thigh and waist. Waist was good, thighs a bit tight despite fitting per the manufacturers size chart. Which makes it seem to me that the rise is where I fucked up.
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>>18252672
Thanks for that. A+ for concision.
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My wardrobe now is almost entirely RRL. They get the quality of materials & pre-distressed look perfect. Any other brands that come close?
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>>18252560
pretty much this >>18252672 plus when you get over a certain thigh size you just have to give up on waist fitting correctly so rise by default just becomes the next most important measure. and by size for rise i mean find the right one for your body and stick with around there. you want them to ideally sit right below the navel but some body shapes even when athletic may opt for lower.

reminds me someone with a lil bit smaller thighs than you posted a fit pic on reddit the other day:
https://old.reddit.com/r/rawdenim/comments/1fdgkbb/todd_snyder_relaxed_selvedge_jean_in_rigid/
couple of the jeans mentioned in comments like brain dead 00's have pretty good measures.
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>>18252560
>upsizing waist
also don't forget that you can have a tailor take the waist in a little bit and add darting to the back to make the waist and or seat smaller if you size for thighs. assuming its not super heavy weight denim tailors won't touch that stuff.
going above tag size then tailoring it down gets you bigger thigh measurements basically.
your primary concern is waist (small) to thigh (big) ratio and tailoring can help you maximize it.
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what boots should i cop if i want to be a Californian mountain biker from the 70s bros?
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>>18252729
>Any other brands that come close?
Occasionally Japanese jeans brands like warehouse will do amazing looking prefaded jeans.
But no no other brand really does what RRL does
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>>18253113
How do they do it? What kind of process gets that look?
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>>18252729
Shirts as well or just jeans? I owned an RRL flannel shirt for a while but I found the quality to be terrible. Course, uncomfortable cotton with cheap, ugly plastic buttons. It was made in India. Thank god I got it on final sale from my local, I paid fuck all for it. What's your experience like with them?
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>>18253183
>It was made in India.
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>>18252690
Damm, and I was selfconscious about my thighs at a bit over 24 inches.
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>>18248599
What's the name of these?
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>>18253309
Whites semidress
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>>18253183
RRL kind of has two tiers of pricing. For denim there's $200 vs $400 jeans, and the more expensive version is worth it imo. Same with shirts I believe. I don't have any of their $200 flannels but I do have a few overshirts, chamois shirts, older chambray with some lining. The material is thicker and the fit is nicer.
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thoughts on 18east raw denim? I really like this pair and I think it is a fair price but I can't find any pictures of it online:
https://18east.co/collections/bottoms/products/saph-jean-raw-denim
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Is it sinful to wear black jeans with these?
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>>18253611
Go for it
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>>18253293
I’m not self conscious about my legs. I like being strong.

Coupled with a big butt, bigger than should be waist and a long inseam shopping for pants has been a challenge. Before /dem/ I would usually give up and get pants that were good enough but never quite right. Now I feel more confident that I’ll find something that will actually fit.

I do wish I knew about how important rise is before now. Thankfully, I only bought some $60.00 STF Levi’s from an Army Surplus store. They fit better than 90% of the pants I’ve ever owned as a big thigh guy. They still aren’t as good as they could be, but it’s because the rise is a shorter than it should be. That time I sized for thighs, then waist. Next time, I’ll size for thighs, then rise. Hopefully, that will be the magic combo to get me some denim that fits well.

It’s also changed how I shop for work pants too. Those are a bit more forgiving because I have a very good tailor.
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>>18253611
i like everything except the loud visible branding and made in india. the cut is incredibly based. made in india is a lot more forgivable considering they're under 200 at retail. for what its worth i have a pair of selvedge that was both sewn and milled in india and if i never read the tags i'd never know they were. a lot of people assume that only low end shit's made in china and india but its kind of an outdated opinion. middle class and min wages are exploding in both countries so the lowest bid side of the garment industry moved to places easier to exploit people like bangladesh. so point is they're probably nice despite the country of origin. it would make me pass if it was a common cut but those jeans are pretty unique, would cop.
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>>18254416
The WWII and 40’s cuts seem to check all three too, at least for some brands. And I will probably follow the anon who recommends one wash denim. I’m concerned about shrinkage, and his advise seems solid for that.

I want to dial everything in on some cheaper items so I can use them as the templates when reading size charts of more expensive items.

It’s funny. Before these threads and looking into denim it would have never thought to measure a piece of clothing that fit well as a way to get other pieces that fit well. Limited imagination and brain power over here.
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>>18254401
>I’m not self conscious about my legs. I like being strong.
Me too, but there was a point that I had to sacrifice other stuff to get syronger and it wasn't worth it for me. At some point strength training has diminishingvreturns if you're not a powerlifter.

I've no trouble wearing wranglers 13mwz, might be the jeans that fit me best of all I own. But at 28" thighs you might be better off trying the 31mwz if you want cheap jeans with a higher rise that have enough room to accomodate huge thighs.
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>>18254594
>>18254401
I'm glad you've both been able to come to terms with your fundamentally rapidly ageing natures.
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>>18254639
You think you ain't gonna age?
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>>18254639
>balding zoomer hands coping with premature twink death posted this
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Any alternatives to IH snap button flannels that aren't marked up to $400 to troll gaijin?
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>>18247986
That ruffle you get when you wear a belt annoys the shit out of me
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>>18254594
Totally agree. I’ll never compete in power lifting or a strong man competition. I no longer chase 1RM, but picking heavy shit up around the house and throwing my daughter high as fuck in a pool is awesome.

>>18254639
Thanks. I hope one day you find something physical that you like to do too.
If you’re concerned about getting to bulky and having hard to fit thighs, lap swimming is a great exercise that won’t put a huge external demand on your muscles and likely won’t result in a lot of hypertrophy. It’s also less impact than running and great for cardiovascular health.
Here’s a great plan to go from no swimming to swimming a mile. I followed it once and it was very rewarding. http://ruthkazez.com/swimming/ZeroTo1mile.html
Captcha: HDYR
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>>18254672
Do you need the snap buttons?
UES heavy flannels are thickk but no snaps
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>>18250324
Happy for you, bro, looks real good too.
What are you going to style it with?
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>>18254653
I'm already old beyond my years.

>>18254657
Norwood 0 pal, completely gray, 21 years of age.

>>18254725
I already hypertrophised my quads, glutes and hammies. My posterior chain would make you weep. If I got into a swimming pool half the water would rush out due to displacement.
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>>18254785
Originally I planned to copy Don Draper's double denim fit from the last season, but turns out I don't have a midwash pair of jeans. It's either a couple in lightwash or dark indigo in the process of fading.
So I went to my local mall to get a pair but literally all midwash jeans had all sorts of fake distressing (wiskers, scruffs, fake grease stains) that I absolutely despise. Gotta keep looking, I guess.
I wore it yesterday over a dark green and dark blue plaid flannel, tan five pocket trousers and brown boots and it wasn't half bad.
My one wash 13mwzs don't look bad with it either, so I guess they'll do for the time being.
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>>18254781
NTA, but those UES flannels look awesome. Good rec.
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>>18254965
They are good, the 15.5 oz extra heavy is my favorite flannel, I have a couple and would buy more. The colors are usually all pretty good as well, buy them right from UES in Japan it is way cheaper than getting from a secondary retailer.
https://www.japaneseselvagejeans.com/index_en_CAD_12-49.html
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