/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - HORSE EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREVIOUS>>18251530
>>18260894damn that leather looks so nice after it gets some wear
Do the standard Vibram soles on heritage boots outperform the cemented construction soles on boots you'd find at REI?If my goal is to go through snow and ice and not crack my head open, which am I better off with?
>>18260941Also apparently the White X / Honeys do okay in snow / ice?
yeah them's my shitkickers
>>18260941i barely ever click the boot thread. i hike in the cascades a lot. very rainy here.first of all you should be wearing crampons or spikes in icy conditions.still you never know when you can get caught off guard by a patch in mixed conditions. vibram megagrip/pro is the gold standard for traction on wet rock. there's different levels to it and lug pattern matters a lot too. some proprietaries compare to it some don't. approach shoes also exist which use very sticky rubber and will give far more grip than any boot does, you should know they exist and use them when appropriate. dece slightly outdated rundown:https://trekandmountain.com/2018/12/09/the-big-question-which-rubber-sole-is-the-stickiest/there way more arctic grip on the market now i haven't tried it yet. vibram arctic grip is supposedly 3x grippier on ice than their other compounds. haven't tried it yet or really looked into if it lived up to the hype, newer product.and there's graphene sole compounds starting to hit the market that grant a significant increase to their lifespan as well as a significant reduction to weight. for old timey resoleable boots nope you won't get any compounds even remotely close. you can improve ice traction by putting screws in them. you can do that with glued modern boots too though.just deal with the consumable. its not that expensive per mile honestly. you're using them for stuff you could die doing may as well take the best shit.
>approach shoes also existdon't use those things on ice just aware-ing you to them for rocky steep conditions really if you're going to traverse glaciers or w/e take a class. rent a avalanche beacon. spend more time lurking the various mountaineering/ice climbing boomer forums. good info on those.
>>18260988>>18260989Good info, ty anon. I didn't mean anything this extreme, I just meant hiking through my local parks when its been snowing
Best boots
>>18261037This is now a sneaker thread
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Turdsday is trying to get into the PNW market
>>18261109the hilarious thing is that it'll still be made with the whatever is the lowest cost of that material, like the low quality pressboard they use for their leather soles that disintegrates with prolonged water exposure
>>18261109looks like a turd was rubbed all over it
>>18261103impractical sneakers of regret
>>18261109what's up with the scalloped midsole?
>>18261109They cut it in half already. Roseanvilbros, not like this.
>>18261122>8mm leather midsole with internal grooves for flexibility,Reddit boot
Opinions on Idrese boots?
>>18261109it has a leather insole, "shank" and midsoleit says it has a leather heel counter, if having a leather heel counter cover with nothing inside countsit's not nailed at the waist or at the heel, it's just gluedthere is not a single nail in thisit's going to fall apartthe cope is going to be>well, they never advertised it as a work boot>>18261122the relief cuts are there to make it easier to bend the midsole and prevent the waist and heel from sliding apart when flexing since it's all just glued
>>18261109bruh moment
>>18261109If the woodsman heel was more curved and if wide widths were available I’d actually buy it
>>18261139>prevent the waist and heel from sliding apart when flexing since it's all just gluedprevent the insole and midsole from sliding apart at the wait and heel, i mean
>>18261139>nonexistent heel counter>heavily sloped forward because it's not a real high arch last>predestroyed midsole>blogger heel>thin shitty heel lift
do i need to polish my boots? i already use a wax cream for protection
>>18261164not unless you like it shinnyyou'll also want to strip the polish and condition sometimes. maybe once a yearif you just want a little shine use a beeswax conditioner like smiths
>>18261188>you'll also want to strip the polish and condition sometimesHow?
>>18261139You all know this is gonna be an absolute best seller right?You're about to see a whole new level of thursday bullshittery
>>18261207>You all know this is gonna be an absolute best seller right?Supposedly, they'll be made in small batches, but if ypu mean they'll sell every last pair in no time, then yes, absolutely.I would be tempted if I wasn't aware of the numerous QC issues Thursday is known for, and for 370, there's no teason to get Thursdays over Red Wings.Too bad RW doesn't make a teacore boot.
>>18261205with a dedicated solvent based leather cleaning product like saphir renomatyou apply it on a rag and rub the wax offideally you should not let it soak up into the leather itself too much and apply conditioner soon afterobviously using solvents often removes some of the pigment from the leather, so you should use pigmented creams to replenish the colorif you use regular conditioner with soft waxes in it and don't apply specific hard wax polishing pastes, then you don't need to strip the waxesregular soap and water cleaning is enough, if the leather gets actually dirtyroutinely, just brush with horsehair to keep it clean, waxed or not
>>18261225the black prairie blacksmith and moc teacorethe new excalibur leathers on the beckmans also teacoreblack chrome and black harness don'tthe teacoring on RW isn't fast and you have to work for it
What's wrong with JK Boots?
>>18261288>JK BootsBesides looking like a homosexual?
>>18261237I keep debating which first boot to get and keep coming back to the blacksmith. Might be fun to tip my toes into teacore
>>18261288nothing
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>>18261122>>18261128>Turdsday shills think the thin as fuck split leather is a good thing>Swiss cheese midsole Lol
>>18261318Do it, they're a good baby's first nice boots. Yeah Teacore might be becoming a r*dditblogger trend but it's still pretty cool.
notice the heel is flat?take notes turdsdayalso who wants a pnw style boot with those pointy toesjust tasteless aping
>>18261207Their target demographic is literally double digit IQ r*dditors who only parse buzzwords. Of course it'll be a best seller.
>>18261353My feet hurt just looking at that retarded arch and shank
>>18261360Flat footed monkey bitch boy
What are the best work boots?
>>18261389grant stone brass boot
>>18261389what kind of work
>>18261392Boot making
>>18261231Always wondered, is there anything I should be doing on the inside of the boot? Condition?
>>18261392Factory farming in a greenhouse
>>18261389probably a pull on work boot from either red wing, carhartt or georgia boot
>>18261400Thanks
>>18261396steel toe required?
>>18261410Not a requirement but appreciated nonetheless
>>18261400I bought a pair of pull on georgia boots when I was doing construction. $180 in 2019 and they were trashed in 6 months.
>>18261389real answer is franks patriot
Considering Ariat lacers, are there any notable pros and cons I should be aware of?
>>18261411>>18261411JK Boots OT or White's Smokejumpers custom built to your aesthic preferences. Either can have a safety toe. Smokejumpers can be built from 6 inch to 12 inch shaft hight, any leather, any color, plain toe, cap toe, lace to toe, White's will do whatever the fuck you want within reason.
Which is the best PNW boot company? White's, Nick's, JK, Frank's, etc?
>>18261494White's
>>18261494Frank's is the only one I haven't heard of anyone having QC issues with but I also don't see a lot of people getting them and their heels are a little extreme for my taste. Personally though I think Viberg is the best.
>>18261476>plastic welt>plastic heelstack
>>18261509Any recommendations from Viberg? What do they specialize in and what are their signature boots?
>>182615142030 is what they're famous for
>>18261494I like Nigs
>>18261476Well, it’s Ariat. So. You know, Walmart tier piece of shit for an inexplicably high price.
>>18261515They really do look and sound like an excellent pair of boots
>>18261514Viberg is known for their 2030 service boot. A lot of companies make lace up service boots but Viberg is considered the sleekest.
>>18261511Once the sole and heel are worn out it can be resoled properly, no? Obviously the correct option is to just not buy them to begin with
>>18261394I make sure the inside is clean and dry before conditioning it. Leave it. Then go over with a cloth
How's the Red Wing Supersole X as an all-round boot
TLB has a -15% MTO event, basically makes MTO freeI wanted a dark brown suede chelsea boot, might pull the trigger. It's 450€ and TLB quality is pretty great (esp suede).Basically pic related in dark brown, with a commando sole for comfiness.
>>18261707Might go for a black oxford since i need one
>>18261733The reason I like TLB is because the quality is great, the finishing is always flawless (way better than Carmina) and more importantly their MTO has width options on every last, I am width HThey also have ok priced lasted trees for every last.I own a black oxford from them and I used to own a black oxford from Carmina which I sold because it was too narrow. It's great. They use annonay boxcalf instead of the german one, I can't say I see a difference.
>>18261736do you have loafers from them? if so how is the sizing compared to the oxfords? debating on getting some but unsure if i should go tts or .5 down, never had loafers before.
>>18261903I have loafers but from the 'comfort' collection which is different sizing.I had to use a tongue pad but I also use a tongue pad on my only other pair of loafers (from Bonafe) so I think it's normal.I'm UK10 on TLB (on most other brands I am 10.5 for some reason) and the comfort loafers say EU44 for either UK10 or 10.5 and I picked that and it worked.
>>18261945i'll go with my usual size and hope it works, worst case i figure i might need to throw a thin insole in to take up space.
I didn't understand what they meant by "breaking in" a new pair of PNWs. I just got my first set, some Franks Patriots, and I had no idea that you had to basically form them to your feet and ankles, it doesn't feel too good yet but seeing them actually become your boot is a satisfying experience.
>>18261450the georgia boot meme is that they like to break just out of warranty. 6 months is fully half that, how'd they fail on you?
>>18262028Some people really get down at work
>>18261658good
>>18262029I'd like to get a feel of where georgia likes to cut corners. the ones I own have held up well so far but they only get intermittent exercise and the chelseas are still young
>>18261517shoe feet lil gay boy
>>18261517>>18262057I think he rocks those boots pretty well
Opinion on these (keep in mind, dainite)vs
>>18262118vs these (commando sole)
>>18262120vs these (plain toe) with commando solebut the last seems pointier
>>18262118>>18262120>>18262121i would take the islay, the country boot look works with the lug sole, the last is more generousthe grizdale has a waterproof interlining, which may seem like a bonus, but it disintegrates into dust after a couple of years and the leather itself is plenty waterproof already, the last seems too dressy for what this is, which they claim to be a "winter boot"the coniston is the most versatile looks wise, but i'm sick of captoes myself
What leather cleaner do you anons reccomend?I was thinking about getting just some cheap one from Amazon, but im not sure if I want to put it on my more expensive leather products.
>>18262167228 last is not dressy
>>18262194I've never had a scuff that didn't just magically disappear with renovateurI know it's supposed to nourish leather but for some reason it also cleans it?
>>18262197when they say it cleans and conditions, it means that when the conditioner soaks in it opens up the pores of the leather and precipitates or "lifts" some of the dirt out to the surface, then you can brush it outit's basicly just a fart in the wind and most of the dirt stays where it was
What kind of boots will make her let me bust on her face?
>>18262337White's Semi-Dress
Convince me not to buy Danner Patrols for yard work, garage work, the shooting range, and day hiking.
>>18262446retard boots
>>18262446nevermind, the leather is fake
people really think were being elitist dicks when were just mad at being burnt by shit quality in the past
>>18262446Danners are such pieces of shit, I've never had a pair of boots fall apart on me the way my Bull Run Moc 6" boots did; if I didn't get them as a gift I would have made a stink about it
Just impulse copped a pair of black iron rangers in an online sale, what am I in for? They are very nice looking boots but are they actually goodI'm planning on beating the shit out of them
>>18262485yes they are baseline for good boots
>>18262485>what am I in for?retard proof oil tan and no midsole
Hey if money is no object and I live in the USA --What's the absolutely best resolable hiking boot? And what's the absolute best outsole compound I can resole it with?From what I understand most of the good shit are made by European makers and a lot of their websites aren't in English so I'd love recs.I have and will continue to use glued construction boots for the more serious stuff I do. I want a resoleable pair to eat up the mikes for my less serious day hikes. Still has to be good because I'm mostly hiking steep rocky mountains in the highest rainfall part of the lower 48. >>18261002Ohhh sorry anon. I'm actually here with a similar question kek.
>>18262659If resoleable isn't completely necessary I would recommend Zamberlans, they make you feel like a deer on the trail, best hiking boots I ever owned but they're Italian not American.
>>18262663Oh shit they actually have a USA store most european brands don't. I've actually heard of them I think someone I know hikes in them iirc. Speaking of non resolable and light on your feet have you tried graphene blend sole boots yet? I haven't but I keep hearing they're not meme and can get ridiculously lightweight.
>>18262668I actually haven't tried graphene soles but that does sound interesting, I bet they would be super light and durable, I'll look into that.
>>18262674>>18262668I found a pair of graphene boots for 72 bucks and feel extremely compelled to cop them. Roclite G 345 GTX V2 Mens if you're interested also.
https://sandmanncraft.de/en/products/great-plains-vulcanoThoughts on these?
>>18262659If money was not object, and I would go with a custom pair of Limmer Boots. Waitlist is 2-3 years though. https://limmerboots.com/products/custom-boots
>>18262694They're probably not bad, but the leather, particularly on the shaft, is thin. At 500 I would save more to get wescos, even if they're double that. Spending 500 on a boot that's not gonna be there will only lead to dissapointment.
>>18262663Do you know what model you have specifically?
If I were to get Solovairs, should I get the greasy boot or the hi shine ones?
>>18263042I had the 5011 LOGGER PRO GTX RR S3 because they were my workbook but I would often hike in them as well. If I were to get another pair I would probably grab a pair of backpackers, probably the 1025 TOFANE NW GTX® RR because I like the look of them and they are actually resoleable.
>>18263066>If I were to get Solovairsno.but also greasy. hi shine is plastic coated
What would be a good alternative to these clinch shoes?
>>18263290alden indy after chopping the shaft off
I want to buy these US M1918 Pershing boots from What Price Glory, but can anyone confirm what the thread is made of? like is it synthetic or waxed linen? I'm not buying a boot if I know it's built with plastics.https://onlinemilitaria.net/products/4759-us-m1918-pershing-trench-boots-available-to-non-us-clients-only/
Greetings, I know docs are frowned upon here, but I bought picrels regardless. I like how they look, but my one problem is that the shoelaces keep getting untied. Is there a well known fix to this? Like waxing them or putting something else on them? Or should I get different laces? I haven't owned boots before, but I can't be the only one with this problem, since this model is pretty popular, I think.
>>18263290rolling dub trio coupen mocwheel robe heavy stitching moc toealden mocc toe leisure oxford/ mocc blucher/ indy oxford/ ranger mocbrother bridge james (discontinued probably)
>>18263349berluti knot or parisian knot
are there any japanese boot makers that do extra wide or still offer mto? i am planning a trip next year and wanted to see if i pick up something nice while there.
>>18262485Your feet will hurt but it'll be worth it
Yay or nay?
>>18263390japanese makers generally don't do lasts in multiple widths and very rarely stock anything above size US10/JP28 domesticallymost of the time you can't order a boot in wide widths as MTO because they only have one standard width last, so you have to go MTM or bespoke lastsome brands advertise their boots as being wide width, like clinch CN wide or john lofgren 120 last E width, but those are not true wide widths and fit more inbetween D/E on a brannock, which may or may not be what you're looking forthere are high-end bespoke makers, but generally don't do boots, only dress shoes and have waiting list over a year longthe one MTM maker that specializes in boots specifically is white kloud, prices are through the roof and orders are closed AFAIK, so you'll just get rejected most likelythe only japanese brand, that i know of, that does D, E and EE widths as MTO is zerrows in tokyomultiple lasts, styles and a decent variety of leather options, some of the styles are a bit out there though
>>18263407I think they look snazzy
>>18263501Good snazzy or bad snazzy?
>>18263511Good snazzy
>>18263512Yeah thats what i thinkHefty in person too
>>18263518Oh nice, I love me a hefty boot. Would cop
>>18263407Y
>>18261225looks really good in black
>>18261207I look forward to the "is this normal" posts in 6 months time
>>18263537they don't really let people post those anymoreit was the majority of posts so now they tell people that they're wrong for posting it because they should take it up with customer service
>>18263498unfortunate, but i kind of expected that. maybe i will go check out zerrows and see if anything catches me while i am browsing.
>>18262485>are they actually goodno picrel>I'm planning on beating the shit out of themSupposedly they can take it, but they're very uncomfortable so your feet will hurt if you plan on making them your shitkickers.
>>18261109The shell selling out fast is insane. Why did they even put shell on these goofy ass boots? PNW aesthetic and shell don’t mix.
>>18264032shell is extremely overrated and hyped by retards that never actually owned it, let alone actual good shell (horween). So if they can get shell for a "good deal" (shit quality shell), they'll jump on it because its "better".
>>18264032>549 for ThursdaysEven if it's shell, not worth it.
>>18264082And this is by a high quality japanese bootmaker, not some mexican factory that will use any hide they can get for the lowest price with as little waste as possible.
>>18262485Regarding the uncomfortable comments and just to clarify: IRs lack a midsole and tge sole is hard, so they are shit for sock absorption. You can mitigate that by wearing thick socks, or those hiking socks which are thicker in the footbed. Or even getting a cushioned insert, you might have to go up half a size for that if your pair fits too snug.They're not my most comfortable boots but I don't have much trouble with them when wearing thick socks.
Thinking of copping these, but I live in an area with terrible cold/wet weather most of the year. I won't be outside much, maybe 1-2 hours a day. Can I treat these and still rock them or should I buy something different?
>>18264117no, you don't have to treat these, the chromexel leather is very weather and water resistant and extremely sensitive to overconditioning, because it is so greased up from the factory alreadyyou don't have to do anything to them besides brushing with horsehairbut i would get something with a bit taller shaft than 5 inches for cold weather
>>18262453Buy a pair Danner Lights instead
>>18263887Anyone know what I'm supposed to be seeing and getting appalled by in this photo?
>>18264169Danners are shit quality, I would advise against them 100% of the time. They're turdsday quality (or lower) slop boots.
>>18264187The last stitch on the welt is missing the thread.
>>18264032because shell makes redditors mouths open wider than a star wars trailer
>>18264187one extra hole, used by inexperienced stitcher to guide
Do you think that exposed shearling would last in wet, cold winter conditions?https://gea-waldviertler.at/shop/w4tler-eisbaer.html#farbe=4355
>>18263887 Mine are pretty comfy but it took like 2 months of break in hell and the toe box spills over the welt. Not made for wide toes.
>>18264032Yeah thats a fucking travesty and a waste of materials. Sinful really
>>18264082That looks like ass. I have seconds in no name leather that look better than that
>>18264032these things look so disgustingit actually offends me and the world is a worse place with these in existence
>>18264032>PNW aesthetic and shell don’t mix.I disagree, my shell Vibergs are probably my favorite pair of boots. They're not so dressy that they look out of place being worn casually and I don't mind beating them up a bit, but if I spend some time cleaning them up they can be nice enough to wear with business casual or even semi-formal. The real issue with the Thursday shell are those lug soles, they absolutely destroy the versatility.
>>18264210>>18264252lel the horror
>>18263407only black or brown imo
>>18264164I just applied VSC AND Saphir oily leather cream on my black CXL (to aid with break in) what am I in for
I own a lot of nice heritage style boots, bit I own no cowboy boots. I think Im going to take the leap. Whats a good solid first pair? Is tecovas decent quality or should I pay 600 dollars for a pair of chisos?
>>18264359here's hoping it's oily leather with a creamy sheen
>>18264359hopefully not this
>>18264378It's not as bad as>>18264382 (in fact I can't tell because it's black). The leather is firm but not as stiff as before conditioning.Will just wearing them regularly counter the slight over conditioning that happened to it?
>>18264382whats the cope for this anyway? That they actually like shriveled up foreskin boots?
>>18264395yeah, just wearing them and brushing often should help a lot
Anyone know W2C a good Roughout garrison belt for ~$100. Preferably a silver buckle instead of brass.>>18264366Ariat Benchmade, Dan Post, R Watson, and Top Hand are all solid boots around ~$300. Red Wing 1155 or Hondo boots are good options for shitkickers and will be a bit cheaper + MiUSA.Haven't tried chisos myself, but at that price I'd rather do Anderson Bean, Olathe, or Fengolio.
>>18264436>Anyone know W2C a good Roughout garrison belt for ~$100. Preferably a silver buckle instead of brassetsy
>>18264400>whats the cope for this anyway?that's just how cxl is
>>18264270I’m FF clown feet mode and the only boots I can use as shitkickers are my 2040 Vibergs or my semi-custom Frank’s. I tried iron rangers but left the store without buying, they were all cramped but the guy also didn’t believe me when I said my “real” width is FF.
Behold. My most worn pair of boots. Some shitty parkhurst samples in waxed chocolate kudu. Almost nothing about these are symmetrical, not even the eyelets but I love these things all the same. They go with literally everything except shorts
>>18264486Kms forgot pic
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>>18264309To be fair, none of my three pair of RW (and a fourth I got rid of) had any qc issue of note, and I would say they were impeccable in that regard. I had more qc issues with a single pair of Trumans than with all my red wings together.That extra hole in the pic is more a visual annoyance than something that would put the integrity of the boot in jeopardy, but still it shouldn't be there. Again, red wing is not known for having qc issues.
>>18264487If it makes you feel any better, nothing from Parkhurst is symmetrical. My left boot has a shorter heel than the right but they are comfortable.
>>18264498i actually like it because its a good reminder that obsessing over details doesnt determine how much you like the item of clothing in question. obviously if youre gonna drop a grand on some custom shoes they better be tight but for wearability and general enjoyment, it dont matter much.
>>18264487the welt is cracking and needs to be replaced at some pointjust clean the boot with soap and water, then condition, also put some on the welt, before it completely falls apart
>>18264297Viberg service boots don’t use the PNW logger style I’m talking about like those Turdsdays do
>>18264514oh shit youre right. good eye, i didnt even notice. ive been beating these things up without a care for years now. its waxed so i dont think i can condition it with your normal leather balm right? unless im a total dunce
>>18264586you can use any conditioner on itsaphir renovateur or venetian shoe cream are the best all-roundersif you don't want to have it too waxy and clog everything up saphir oiled leather
>>18264599Nice. Ill go ahead and get on that. Id hate to let these things become unsalvageable
>>18264406zased thanks
>>18264487The piping is always the first to go on my shoes/boots. I hate piping
Breaking in my diesels and my right leg above my ankles is getting beat up and tender from driving. Will not lacing the last pair of speed hooks not make an impact in the overall break in process?
Is Jim Green's leather quality pretty mediocre? Should I expect the uppers to go before the sole? I find their lasts very comfy in the toebox and am okay if the boots don't last amazingly long
The other week there was an anon on the /btg/ that had just gotten their Wesco Derroll boots. Curious if he's still lurking here, just wondering how those ended up.
>>18264727>ankles is getting beat up and tender from driving?????????????????????????
>>18264761I imagine the material around his ankles is chafing them as he works the pedals
>>18264727either dont lace so tight or dont lace the top eyelets when youre breaking them in. it will get more supple and conform better to the movment on your ankle driving. ive gotten that sometimes in new boots
>>18264763>I imagine the material around his ankles is chafing them as he works the pedalsbut i strangle my ankles in grant stones like 3-4 days out of the week and drive stick and that doesnt happenthis is a major skill issueanon needs to do a write up of how he adjusts his seat
>>18264764Thanks
>>18264746it's not the best but it should outlast the soles, unless you use them while doing some work or activity that beats up the upper especially bad.
>>18263498a lot of the designs are not really my thing but these are pretty nice. i appreciate you pointing me in their direction, i will probably place an order after when i go there.
>>18265076
I'm new, what brands should I be looking at if I want something more "dressy/ formal" rather than work type boots?
>>18265296viberg
>baker moved their fuckups to drewsFrank's superiority cemented. >>18265296Depends on the occasion.>>18265301Some vibergs are jean casual.
>>18265303>baker moved their fuckups to drewsqrd
>>18265311It's just a marketing email, bakers is shilling drews fuck up section. My own clown shoe fuckups were on the site for almost a year, I hope they've been resold multiple times.
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i kind of wish cuban heels were socially acceptable today
>>18265392FR. trying desperately to find some that aren't Chelsea boots but so far very little out there.
>>18265392You don't eat nearly enough chicken to pull them off, anon.
>>18265392they make it easier to moonwalk. perhaps you could bring them both back into the public consciousness
>>18265416if ringo can so can i
>>18265517>low top chelseasPaul, pls
>>18265392These are powerfully homosexual
>>18265392They still are
>>18265604surely they are not gayer than what people are wearing today
Are these leather or rubber? Where can I cop knee-high boots like this? It's for a costume so I don't care about quality
>>18265680These shoes literally exist to give manlets a boost in height without resorting to lifts. Why do you think asians invented these and also brought back the chunky soles trend?
I bought leather shoes for $8 for an interviewIt says it has a leather upper, synthetic liner and man-made sole and they're pretty comfortableWhat do you guys do when you buy used shoes?I have to wear these to a wedding soon Should I just leave out in the sun to bake a bit?
>>18265792enjoy your foot aids
>>18265795Fuck you're rightI'll wear double socks because I don't have enough time, then I'll get some antifungal spray
>>18260894do chelsea boots always feel like flip flops or am I doing something wrong?I tried 4 pairs already from different brands and while they're very comfy when standing still, as soon as I start to walk my heel starts rubbing against the back of the boothow do I fix it?
i bought ir and mocs. the ir absolutely kicked my ass and took months to break in but damn are they comfy now. the mocs were comfy right from the get go.
Are boots supposed to hurt a but when breaking them in?I got a pair of Red Wing Beckmans yesterday , while trying out they were tight, but not painful.However, After a good march my little toes hurt like hell and my whole foot feels like its getting squished when wearing them.
Who would win: the Viberg Service Boot 2030 or the White's Semi-Dress?
>>18266337I didn't have much trouble breaking in the IRs. The 875s took about a day.>>18266379My beckmans were quite painful for about two weeks. That's about what it took me wearing them in increments until they became bearable. Afterwards they get more comfortable with each wear. I can wear them now the whole day without issue.
>>18266385Good to know, thanks m8. I was already worries about potentially having tanked my bank account for shoes that are too small. I permanently damaged one of my small toes trying to "break in" a pair of badly fitting pieces of cheap shit years, ago, so I tend to get nervous when shoes aree tight. Never had any proper boots before.
>>18266468One last note: bear in mind tgat beckmans have a leather lining so they'll always feel tighter tgan the IRs. Also the leather is stiffer, IRs will become very supple with wear, beckmans not so much.
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>>18266222that's the neat thing about chelseas, you can't>>18266382I'd take the semi dress over the 2030
>>18266222too big? or maybe you have weird feet
>>18266495>Also the leather is stiffer, IRs will become very supple with wear, beckmans not so much.Does this go for the new edition Beckmans as well? I read they changed the leather to a softer one from the old ones for exactly that reason. I thought about geetting IRRs, but I honestly liked the Beckmans better and one of my best friends has a pair of IRs. Buying the exact same shoes would be off the charts gay.
>>18266382As much as i hate Viberg, White's is not even in the same tier.
>>18266560I don't know about the new ones since mine are the older model. The featherstone leather felt like wooden clogs for two weeks. Assuming you didn't get the wrong size, just wrar them for incremental small ammounts of time around the house until they feel good enough to go outside.
>>18266382The semi-dress is shilled a lot as the one and done boot, but the shape of the counter stitch puts me off.
wake up babe the turdsday cheque just cleared
>insane lead time on White's bootsThis better be worth it
>>18266553>too big? or maybe you have weird feetno, they're definitely the right sizeand no, my feet aren't particularly weird>>18266549>you can't:(
>>18266646they look worse in those photos than on the thursday websitegood lord who though that was ok
>>18266667and that's why elastics are the big gay and why chelseas are gay but engineers are not
>>18266646at those prices you are almost at nigs, jk, or franks pricing, all of which are objectively better, even taking into account jk and nigs issues. who would buy this? surely the person who wants this kind of boot and has enough money would just go to the better brands.
>>18266675Brand recognition, Thursdays have built a reputation as the best bang for buck brand for people "in the know" so it has a lot of diehards and when they see Thursdays selling a $500 boot they will assume it's somehow much more bang for buck than any other $500 boot out there. In fact go ask in reddit and the first thing you'll probably hear is how shinki cordovan at that price is a steal and you would be a fool to pass on it.
I bought boots shilled by Rose Anvil. I'll let you know how they worked out in a year.
>>18266810which ones?
>>18266814The JK bison roughout boots. QC is exactly what I expected thanks to these threads so I knew going in about the sloppy stitching and overall bad finishing. The leather has a weird feeling compared to bovine, very stretchy and malleable. Anyway, I am in Africa for a while so I guess I'll see how long they'll last.
>>18266646new pic and it's clearly visible that they cut costs on everything they absolutely couldthursdays claim on their site there is a>full leather toe cap overlaystridewise says it's>an authentic toecapand it's a fake cap toe with a separate piece of cheaper leather underneath to give it the same thickness and some structure, because making a true cap toe would mean they would have to use a bit more of the more expensive upper leatherthey cut through the washer in the heel top lift and there is no nail insidethe leather shank is an absolute joke and it's not nailed eitherno mention of the cuts in the midsole anywhere in the stridewise article, so they don't want to even justify or acknowledge it
>>18266831here's what it would look like if the washer had an actual nail going through it
>>18262659la sportiva nepals if you want to use them year round.
>>18266641Is there a better alternative?
>>18266901I would consider the cruiser, the sherman or even the mp over the semi-dress.
>>18266901I’ve got the White’s MP. They recently released the CMP which is a higher arch. I would’ve gone with the CMP as my arches are medium to high and I don’t have any cap toe boots
>>18266382Win in what?Comfort the semi dress, style the 2030.The Semi Dress still looks great but it isn't a a typical boot and so not everyone is going to think it looks great.
Just earlier today I purchased a pair of brogues and waxed suede loafers from the trickers outlet and a couple of hours later they updated their stock and added the PTBs I was waiting for to be on sale. Fucking hell I spent a thousand dollars on shoes this morning. They ship out super fast from the UK to the US so I'll ponder about returning first two and just keeping the PTBs.Picrel are the model of the loafers that I just bought.
these boots make me angry
>>18267074And picrel is exactly what I wanted but was waiting for them to be on sale. Which happened today, so no regrets on buying these.I was thinking about dyeing the welt dark brown on the suede loafers. But I'll have to wait until they arrive so I can decide if I want to return them.
>>18267074>>18267084And these are the brogues that I bought along with the loafers. They're probably not as shiny in person but I do like the museum calf leather. Again, will have to wait to try them on and style them and decide if I want to keep the loafers and the brogues. But I do like all of them, it's just too much money to spend on shoes.
>>18266382Vibergs are little less than ok, and way too overpriced. I like mine which are some horween brown leather in leather sole and the toe area of the sole is wearing out surprisingly quickly. Had to glue a pair of toe taps but didn't do a great job with em. I've never tried White's because of their lead time and I'm a brannock 14 and their guide size say they have to be custom made in my size.
>>18267084Ive been eyeing these for over a week on the outlet. I already have enough snuff suede so im hoping my size stays in stock until halloween, when they should have another 20% off. I assume they will be similar to my unlined suede alden ptb
>>18267098I couldn't wait more, I was keeping the loafers and the wingtips in my basket for almost a month. But yes, they should have a sale coming up pretty soon.
>>18266828What can you do to fix that?
>>18266382Love the 2030, the Semi-Dress isn't for me. If I went White's I'd consider the MP over the S-D.
>>18266640Ive worn the boots since making the post pretty consistently, and oddly enough they get more and more comfortable every time I slip in. Right now I can already wear them without wanting to rip thems straight off my feet already.Also looked it up, the new Beckmans are made from Excalibur leather, perhaps someone has some experience with that and can tell me what to expect and what to watch out for? According to the salesdud in the store, I also do not need to treat this leather in any way for it to be weather resistant , is this correct?Sorry, total boot noob here. I dont wanto ruin them accidentally.
>>18265296TLB Mallorca Artista, trickers, crocket jones
>>18267302crockett jones scotch grain calf is so nice
I live somewhere where good cowboy boots are scarce (at least when it comes to buying them in person) and I happened upon some old second hand ones for really cheap. The only thing is the shaft is slouching in such a way that it makes the boot looks like it has a muffin top. Will this fuck up my feet/legs/ankles/knees/etc. or is this nothing to worry about? Everything else about the boots seem fine.
What do you guys think of these? I just copped a pair on sale on impulse for the autumn/winter.
>>18267517Is this nazi leather made out of Jews?
>>18267520Italian Napa leather
>>18267517Common projects? They are great looking, fantastic even, but that's where the good ends. Sorry bro, they have a garbage construction, moderate quality leather for a super high price. If all you care about is the look then cool, but they won't be more comfortable than a sneaker and they won't last long. Again, a fairly nice looking Chelsea boot though, but for the same price or a little more you can get some super nice chelseas from Italian makers.
Is this gap a defect or nah?
>>18267491Post pic to see exactly what you're talking about. I'm guessing you mean creases on the shaft which are fairly normal in well worn booys of that type.
>>18267600Thanks, any recommendations that look as good with better construction? Specifically the chunky sole, black matte
>>18267603Is it a gap or a cut?No reason for there to be a gap there, it's a continuous piece of leather that folds under the shoeSeems like it may be a cut, maybe from the welt stitch machine?
>>18267603normal storm welt thing
>>18267683QRD?
>>18267603can you see through it? like if you were to wear a white sock?
Is there a difference in the construction of boots between whites and nicks, thought about grabbing a pair for work.nicks are a bit cheaper than whites, I want to know if the price hike in whites is justified, is it because they use better materials or a different construction method? appriciate feedback.
>>18267747Whites does a true handwelted stitchdown while nigs does a regular stitchdown
>>18267750And which is more durable? a machined stitchdown would be more consistent no?
>>18267753>And which is more durablehandwelted> more consistent noyou're conflating two different things
>>18267126Nothing, they're just scuffed. If I was a new customer and didn't already have low expectations I am sure JK would be a massive disappointment. The glue will wear off but that fucked stitching and the upper being splayed out weird is not changing. I just need it to not fall apart for a year, so we'll see how that goes.
>>18267753White's handwelted construction is vastly superior to stitchdown. It's more similar to a Norvegese construction.
>>18267659>it's a continuous piece of leather that folds under the shoeexcept it's a split welt so noit's just not supper tigh against the upper there but I doubt there's any issue
>>18267777so you're telling me that if i'm looking for durability, whites is the way to go?
>>18267815yes
cordovan white’s boot drop
>>18267819>those pricesOof, I could get Thursdays in superior shinki cordovan for half that much.
>>18267824>thursday
i bet this will end really well for this dude
>>18267839why pay somebody couple bucks to do it right when you can snag your ghetto toe plates on something and bend them after only 1 day
>>18267819Shell on PNW boots just feels weird.
>>18267729nope
>>18267839>putting clickety clackers on your shoes as an adult man
>>18266828I really like the stretchiness of bison desu. It feels like a well worn leather glove
>>18266734I think that top stitch is way too bulky personally. It looks goody in person to me
>>18266702The internet has become completely useless in this regard. Where you used to be able to find reputable recommendations, all there is now is paid shilling. I guess the actual recs just went back to niche forums and autistic youtube channels
>>18262048I've got an answer. Georgia likes to cut corners in material thickness and likes to use springier but less durable material in places like the midsole. if a georgia model chelsea costs half as much as one by blundstone, it's because the leather is half as thick. georgia's stitching is sound. it's that they're not stitching much together when it comes to some of their boots
>>18267839why didn't he just go for toppies that's reasonably doable at home
>>18267839>taps aren't flush
>>18267839fucking hell
>>18267839People are acting like this man is fucking up, but clearly he just wants to be the loudest person in a room when he walks.
>>18267839>heel taps >taps arent flushfeels like the kind of dude who will give it the 'dome patina treatment
>>18267895it's going to be real loud when he slips on those metal heels and cracks his skull
>>18267899Some problems just solve themselves
>>18260894Sorry to disrupt the thread, but does anyone know what rough out boots are in this image? From what I can tell, I thought it was either Wolverine 1000 mile boots or the Frye company’s Tyler lace up. Though I heard both of these had their quality reduced, especially Frye company being outsourced to china.
>>18267912it's don't think it's either of those, the counter cover and the unit sole doesn't matchif you want a better alteranative not made in china, red wing 3344 blacksmith in muleskinner
What are the most durable boots?
>>18267955loaded question
mite b cool but by the time they deliver with christmas in between etc it'll be like Feb-March
>>18267956*What are the most durable boots you have owned?
>>18267986White's bounty hunters
>>18267986Some no name brand military boots my dad wore in the army that I got as hand me downs. I wore them until I outgrew them and they were still pristine.
when is it viable to try to make your own boots?
>>18268001when you decide to take it up as a serious hobby. you're liable to need to make 30 or more before they don't injure people
>>18268001There is a cordwainer ITT you should ask him if he shows up
>>18264187the inability of a person in 2024 to focus their camera.
>>18267981I'm getting my first chukkas from EB soonish, completely unlined janus calf and unstructured. Very much for summer, so i wont be wearing it much this year i guess.
>>18267931Damn didn't even know that boot existed. I want it now. Seems to be one of those limited edition nonsense though
>>18268001realistically, when you've taken some in-person shoemaking classes, which are couple thousand each and a week's stayit's not a strict requirement, you can just wing it and learn from your mistakes, but the ammount of time and materials that is needed to get something somewhat salvegeable as an end product is counter-productiveeven if your end goal is not a master-shoemaker-level boot it's a huge help having someone show it to you and to try you hand at it in someone else's workshop, instead of going out and buying all the tools yourself and figuring it all out on your ownshoemaking is not some cryptic art and a good ammount of info and tutorials is out there on the net, but like with everything, there will be dozens of problems that you did not anticipate until you actually get down to it and try iti would try some basic leatherworking first, like a wallet, instead of going straight into boots
>>18267819Weird how it's called the Barrie last which is the Alden last, it makes me wonder if it's really the Alden Barrie last or if they are referencing the fact that the service boot last White's uses is a copy of the Barrie last like everyone else.
>>18267773That's not good. I ordered a pair of those in shadow a coupleweeks back; here's to hoping they do less of a shitty job on mine than they did to yours.
>>18268040What? No, muleskinner is a common offering on blacksmiths and iron rangers
>>18265415John Lofgren Donkey Puncher or Steel Gang
>>18268280Well that just isn't true so dunno why you would say that
>>18268228At least they'll be comfy. The other anon is right, the bison leather is very comfy. There's no real break in. I probably won't do a full day in them at work yet but this was a nice surprise. I'll hope you get better qc.
Where do you guys buy sweaters and cords?I bought some wool trousers in the cavour sale and while they're very good, I feel they're not as wide as I would have expected. They frequently snag on my socks and need to be adjusted.I might try Benevento for cords next, I tried a pair of cotton trousers and I've been complimented twice on them, which is 2 more times than any other pair of trousers I own. My own brother asked me if I got taller.But sweaters? Cavour on sale seems good but next sale is in January.
>>18268708Cavour on sale is really good. Portugese Flannel is probably one of my favorites, they have a lot of good drops every season, quality is great and fairly priced. They sell out really quickly with limited stocks, so you gotta be fast.
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>>18268523Thanks Anon
