>>75214010
This is me, except I never had a job and still live with my mother.

>>75213815
I'll be honest. I'm really struggling being old. I started lifting in my early 20s. I hit a bench pr when I was 34. I felt great. I'm 37 now. I'm probably considered in really good shape for that age. But I can barely work out. Not because Im injured or even hurt. I just have no energy. Im still pretty strong and other than no energy i feel fine. Maybe my test is low, i havent checked it. Im not going to become a roid trannie. Is it over for me? I'm so weak now, miles away from my old maxes. Just feel like i could lay in the floor and go to sleep at any given time

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>>75213815
I'm trying so hard bros. I'm going to the gym 5 or 6 times a week. I'm spending at least an hour doing weights and 30 min walking on the treadmill a day. I'm walking because I'm so fat.... chafe is actually a concern for me. I've lost 4 lbs so far. My tendons and back are so fucked up I can barely squat/dl the bar for reps. I just switched to ss from doing my own stupid weight flinging bullshit.
The only good part is somehow I can still do body weight dips for reps. Also i no longer tweak my back grabbing stuff or putting my body in awkward angles. I doubt I will make much progress before Christmas but at least the physical pain in my life is only doms.

My physio told me he was working on his own aging by hitting all the stabilizers he could and getting out of the usual angles because repetitive exercise fuck up your body. I can't complain, my friends are getting fat and/or injured and I'm in the best shape I've ever been.
t. 40+ muscular dad bod, strength mog athletic family

>>75214083
>The only good part is somehow I can still do body weight dips for reps
I can't.. really demoralising

I have a nerve disease and I shake when I lift shit. the staff must be anxious as fuck watching me do dumbbell press because I look like a spaz

>>75214081
>Is it over for me?
nah dude, but you really should hit up your dr. i've seen plenty of success stories from true TRT for me to disregard it as "roidtranny bs". you deserve to feel good bro. maybe it could be you're overtrained? i also feel like ass when i've been working out constantly for 2 months non stop. the common thing to do is take a 50% deload off your lifts for a week, but in my case a full week of rest is what works for me.

>>75214083
look up ways to strengthen your joints, squat university and his book are a great source to get your feet wet. physical therapy is a HUUUUGEEEE fucking branch of medicine so take it easy and try the diff exercises accordingly to your needs. also, starting strength and all that west side powershitter BS is NOT the end all be all for hypertrophy. maduring in the gym is realizing machines are GOAT for bodybuilding. sure, squatting 5 plates and benching 4 is a rite of passage and we all should strive towards that, but you can use the other shit and still get an impressive physique.

>>75214099
hell fucking yeah bro. best shape huh? how long have you been at it? i'm currently 28 and the sole idea of my body slowing down is a bit daunting, but seeing you guys be like "yup im way older than you and still feel as fresh as ever" is the kinda 30% THC shit i wanna put in my pipe and smoke

>>75214117
thats fucking intense bro, how do work around this?

>>75213815
Is this a demoralisation thread? You all talk like old men.

>>75214124
>how long have you been at it?
On and off for a decade with no noticeable results. Seriously since post COVID. The thing is to stick to it no matter what and not be retarded with your program/nutrition.

>>75214278
We _are_ old.

>0-16 a child
>16-25 somewhat of a child
>25 -30 an adult
>30-35 pre-old timer
>35+ old timer

>>75214295
I'm 35 and I'm not old.

>>75214308
ok boomer

>>75214081
>37
>using the term roidtranny
its so over for you

>>75214124
Thanks for the reply. I'll check the squat university out. As far as getting swole is concerned right now, I just want to be able to hike and breathe. Both things I struggle to do lol.

>>75214010
It's not so bad, I basically started life at 29
>single
>living with parents
>college dropout after 6 years of community college
>maybe $5k total net worth if you include my car
>making $15-20k per year doing odd construction jobs

It's not too late, anons. I haven't "made it" yet, but 8 years later I'm married to a woman I love, we own a house, and i make a full time income in a job I enjoy. Going to try for kids soon. Don't let the crabs pull you back into the bucket, lads. Start improoooving today

>>75214107
This isn't my first rodeo. At one point I actually got down to my goal weight. We all start somewhere. You can do it anon.

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>>75213815
Jees - none of you are old. I'M old 56.
I lifted when I was in my 20s, gave up for 20 years and put on a ton of weight in an office job.
After covid I started walking and lifting again.
I'm not going back.

>>75214295
youre going to look back at 35 and realize how young you were.

>>75214494
I'm 34 and I feel like I'm still 19 and I'm fresh out of highschool but now I'm in an old person's body for some reason and people randomly started calling me "Sir or Mister" at some point.

>>75214083
Focus on diet then weightlifting. It's October 1st so even just light dieting should have you lose 15 pounds by Christmas.

>>75214484
good stuff mate, whats your all time bench PR?

>>75214484
based geriatric irish menace

>>75215138
about 140kg (308plb)
I can still do it, but my shoulders sound like someone's ripping out a chicken leg.

So I stick to 110kg and do more reps.

>>75215138
Should say I train at home so 140kg is all I have so do 3 sets X10

>>75215145
Thanks ?

Should say that injury and recovery time is longer, so go a little lighter and do more reps and FFS warm-up properly.

Besides that it's pretty good seeing similar aged men's & women's when the shirt comes off.

I'm losin' it brothers.

>>75214484
Way to go.

51 here. I have never been really into lifting. In my 20s I did some cardio and light lifting routine to get some base core strength for climbing. Then there were two decades of doing nothing.
Except during covid when I went running a few times.

Last year in July I started with triathlon and went from zero experience to finishing a full distance this August.

>>75214295
I'm a boomer and still mentally adolescent at BEST.

just turned 32, it is what it is

>>75213815
nudoom was good
nudoom 2 dlc was bad

dyel general

>>75217955
Any doom after 2 was dogshit. Go back and play them. Even without the y axis the speed and intensity is on another level. Nudoom is just a zombie game. Doom in name only. Even fucking doom 3 was better then that trash.

>>75214010
Hehe, this is me. Don't care; going to pick up and put down heavy things now.

>>75214083
Stop eating processed food and sugary shit

>>75217761
Good one. At about our age it really is last chance to get close to what we had.
I think as long as you did anything when you were younger you have a chance.

>>75218746
Seems so. My trainer (sportsdoc) started with ‚in one year from zero to ironman is nearly impossible‘. After a month and a few tests he went to ‚it is possible, but it will be painful‘.
Not being overweight my whole life and having done something decades ago sure has helped. HRmax 200 and VO2max 50 is not very common this age.

>>75218876
I don't know about that - but I read somewhere that it's very difficult to grow more muscle fibres as you get older, but they're still there - even if you lose mass.
Anyway - time for a snooze.

>>75214010
This will be me one day when I can afford a fucking house

>>75218911
I‘m no expert, but these and some other numbers are indicating, how well the heart/body can work and burn oxygen and sugar in endurance sport.
Seems my metabolism is on a level of an average and not to lazy 20years old.
Unfortunately, my joints, hair and wrinkles tell another story.

I am 34 trying to get ripped first time am I cooked bros?

>>75219290
nah, things dont really change all that much being honest here. the real issue with being 30+ is time management. can't bust 4 hours of non stop benching so you gotta make time count.

>>75219458
True I am nine hours ar work, two hours commute, workout fits in like half an hour

>>75219460
jesus christ, kudos for still working out in spite of that. how the fuck do we as a society still normalize 2hrs+ of commuting is beyond me, but that shit takes actual grit

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I am 33 and have never played Doom
I'm not gonna make it

>>75213815
Is 35 too old to make it? I was /fit/ a couple years ago (150 lbs, 12% BF resting 6 pack abs etc) and just got fat and drunk the last 3 years up to over 190 without lifting. Started lifting again and the weights move easily but idk if I wasted too much time

>>75219504
Well I chose a place far away because it's a government job and I hope to move closer to home once I have some seniority

>>75219536
nah mane, 35 is fine. you might struggle to lose those pounds simply because alcohol is a bitch like that but if you get back to it you'll be back in shape in a year from today. i've seen people report success stories fasting, so there's definitely ways to get there sooner

>>75219552
i see. hopefully that happens soon. 2 hours of commute is some intense shit. i do half hour from home to the office, driving, and i still feel tired by the end of the shift.

the only people who look old at 30-40 are the ones with kids

>>75219802
BEER is the killer - too many cals in carbs.

>>75214081
How’s your bloodflow? Might want check that.

>>75219852
lmao real. impossible to stay fresh when you have a screaming toddler shit up your night every night for a year or so until your kid stops being completely useless

i'll just keep fucking femboys thank you

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>>75219852
Parent of two here. Having kids is no excuse to let yourself go, no matter how many fat slobs try and blame their bad choices on their little ones. If you aren't horsing around and doing activities with your kids after lifting, that's on you, and by the way, you're missing out on one of life's joys.
>>75220229
>Never reproduce, it's miserable
Shalom, fellow goy!
If you and your wife aren't retarded and sleep train the infant, there is no issue. Parents with agency who learn and implement the proper methods do just fine.

>>75220263
As with creative writing, workout when you can. Zero kids or twenty, tis the same

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There is always a way

>>75220263
>blablabla cismale cope

sorry, in the meantime the femboys hit the wall and no amount of estrogen can fix their ugly male genetics, i'll keep on doing my part by not bringing more slaves into the matrix. one bussy at a time

I had to leave my boxing gym yesterday mid workout because I suddenly felt weak and like I couldn't recover from a set of bagwork. I was sweating like crazy, felt a bit lightheaded, but mostly just like I wasn't recovering energy. Coach said I looked really pale.

I'm hoping it's just because I ate very little that day, but I'm very paranoid about my heart just randomly fucking stopping because I've had this weird thing my whole life where if I bend over in the wrong way my heart skips a beat and then just starts pounding until I sit down for a bit. It's stressing me the fuck out.

Also, already went to a doctor and they did the full 9 yards. Said everything is fine. So I dunno.

>>75219520
Fair enough. You were too young to remember it when it was new, and I expect the classic games never particularly appealed to you. Aren't they free on Steam/xbox at the moment? Maybe check them out.

I was a Quake 1 kid but I have to admit there's something very satisfying about Doom 1 and 2. They're simple and sometimes janky games but they're just so visceral and immediate. They kind of thing you can just as happily play for five minutes or five hours.

>>75219852
Not kids, cortisol. Live stress-free and don't fry yourself with work, drugs, drama and stimulants.

>>75220464
Probably went hypoglycemic. I've had that happen a couple of times after lifting when I wasn't managing my nutrition as well.

>>75220586
Drink water with a scoop of dextrose or chew on a tablet. It's dirt cheap for a huge packet on Amazon.

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>>75220456

>>75219231
>on a level of an average and not to lazy 20years old
Yeah - feels good - I mog average 30 year olds

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>>75220459
>mentally ill genetic deadend anon disagrees
Thanks for the endorsement

>>75214010
Literally me. Just started balding and am moving into my mom's house at 34.

NEET since 2009. Wizard. My zoomer brother who just a few short years ago was a wayward Internet boy not unlike myself is now an engineer, has a gf and is and moving out - I stand to get his huge room with a view over the river, so you can say I'm doing pretty well for myself.

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I JUST WANT A NORMAL FUCKING LIFE WHY IS EVERYTHING FINANCIALLY OUT OF REACH

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>Proverbs 3:3-6
Simple as.....
https://youtu.be/DIfWpLecOOE?si=YoOajyUEVe-gjiPR

>>75219504

Well we normalize our money being nothing more than paper scraps and our faiths being in nothing, so it makes sense someone would justify 2 hour commutes.

Heck, I mean, people justify working 35 years FOR THE RETIREMENT not because they love the day to day. Only to get to 67, live for 2 painful years in regret realizing it wasn't worth it at all.

>>75219852

I'm about to be 34, likely soon to be ex wife is 38. No kids, I look decent but the last year of this relationship has aged me. I wonder if I can ever find myself a beautiful early 20's lady to have kids with before she's too tired and old.

Everyone says, "you two will have nothing to talk about". That doesn't matter to me anymore so long as we don't have anything to argue about. Heck, I don't even care if she's not the smartest, so long as she is good with the kids, loves and respects me. Sitting in silence with a loving and beautiful wife? That sounds pretty smart to me!

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>>75219852
You have to be 18 or grown up lmao to post here

>>75220263

>and by the way, you're missing out on one of life's joys.

My wife rug pulled me. She said early on in dating she wanted 2 kids starting about 2 years after we were married since she has 4 years on me. Being younger, I felt it was a bit too soon for my taste, but I'd suck it up for her sake because I knew I'd love my kids once they're here. I always loved kids and her clock was ticking, so it made sense.

Well, 2 years came and went with her making up all sorts of excuses. Now after 3.5 years of marriage she left, filed for legal separation and refuses to come home unless "we work on ourselves separately so we can grow together". I've been growing all along...alone, apparently.

Now at 34, I just want what I thought I had but realize I never had with her. Maybe I can find myself a fertile 20 something that will put the work in for me and the kids. But I don't know where all the anti-woke women are hiding, I haven't found them.

>>75221064
>you two will have nothing to talk about
If you hear this from a man, you should immediately recognize this for the defeatist crab in a bucket mentality that it is.
If you hear it from a woman... well never listen to a woman.

>>75220586
Yeah it's the most likely explanation, but it was weird because I wasn't hungry or anything and I've worked out tonnes of times fasted before. However boxing is far, far, more demanding on my body than any lifting or running I've ever done, so maybe it's just a totally different beast.

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> some old fucking manlet taking up a squat rack the entire time I'm at the gym
> 90% of his workouts aren't even using the rack itself

>>75221118

I don't even know what we "talk about". It's not like I care to have crazy intellectual debates (either with my wife or friends). I like knowing the truth, but I hate the process of discovering it.

I don't even care what we talk about. She need's a foot rub? I rub her feet and do the dishes so she can relax. I want some intimacy, she convinces me she's into it.

Simple, but it's everything.

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>>75221112
You seem to have realized this already, but just in case you are still on the fence
CUT HER OUT OF YOUR LIFE IMMEDIATELY
And I mean total severing of contact. Get a civil restraining order if she pesters you. She does not deserve an ounce of your attention.
She doesn't love you and (I know this hurts) she likely was/became incapable of love for some reason that is not your fault. Someone who loves another person does not behave in the way you describe your ex.
You are lucky that you don't have kids with her and you're still mid-thirties. SHE is fucked. YOU are not, provided you don't give up and commit to doing what is necessary to find a real mate. It can be done, and if you put in the work, a positive outcome is still very likely.

>>75221191

Thanks for saying that, fren. I agree on all accounts. I realize, at some point not long after the ring went on, she started undermining us. We'd make a mutual agreement, then she'd ignore her part and do whatever she felt like behind my back, allowing me to believe she was upholding it. The best I can tell, there were no "red flags" prior to marriage, I did my diligence and got a lemon. If she ever was capable of loving me, she isn't now and hasn't for a while, not my fault.

She's now stringing me along with a legal separation instead of divorce because she needs to look like the victim. She wants me to either capitulate by becoming a pussy whipped husband OR to divorce her so she can cry fowl play to her family. Real unfortunate that she so easily turned them into believing I'm a violent threat. Screw them all, apparently they never thought of me like the family I was.

I've gone full no contact, lawyer does all the talking. Maybe I'm wrong, but even after all this, me filing for divorce feels like I'm the one giving up on my vows before God. Even though her actions have shown she's abandoned the marriage while her words still say, "I love you". I don't care about whether it aids her victim card or not, I just want to be in the right with my Creator. Unfortunately, that leaves me stuck still married and unable to move on unless SHE looses interest and moves on. She's like a bear and I'm in the fetal position hoping she walks away. Do with that imagery what you will.

>>75221064
>"you two will have nothing to talk about"
Fucking faggots. Every twat who says this can only imagine spending the rest of their lives reminiscing about the pop culture of their high school years. They don't have adult interests and can't imagine anyone not living in their halcyon past. I'm not even saying "go get a yung honey." But people who say this can't imagine any women (or person for that matter) being interesting beyond her highschool chick days.

Yet another frustrating reminder that despite my efforts I can never match the misogyny of the average woman.

>>75221275
Ditch her. Even if you were fucking Roman Catholic, wantonly pulling the run on having kids is grounds for annulment. At 34 you have time to find an actual wife. You deserve better than the shedevil that entered into Holy Matrimony under false pretenses.

>>75221338

That's a point I hadn't considered, but makes perfect sense. I don't care if her "pop culture" doesn't match mine, so long as she can learn to appreciate my taste in music on long drives. (Because it is good music, objectively!) And vise versa too.

I never lived this advice, but I also never combatted it when given. I always just figured, "I'll be myself and who ever likes that is probably cool", younger, older, didn't matter to me within reason, so 5-10 years age difference? Meh, let it ride. Of course, 44 is a little old for kids now, that being said, holy crap there are some insatiably hot 40 something women out there, I don't even understand.

>>75221064
>you two will have nothing to talk about
If society continues producing vapid 22 year old college grads who learn everything but how to be a functional adult, yes, they're right.
But in reality, functional individuals have interests.
Usually people who get into relationships that last more than a few weeks do this shit where they do things together.
Bizarre, I know.
For the most part people who say this are retards, already in a relationship (and thus their opinion is mostly invalid), or jealous haters.

>>75221361
>44 is a little old for kids now
Maybe, maybe not. I'm in the exact same range. "If it happens" is never a way to make things happen, but sometimes its the hand you have to play. I will say one of my best friends is nearly 70, several years back he married a younger woman (50s); no kids obviously, but damned if those two don't love each other and love spending their days together.

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35 year old here, there is a 28 yr old girl at work who I fancy, we always gravitate to each other and talk, although she has a boyfriend, but he seems pretty pathetic, not sure how I play it from here? Don't want to shoot my shot if she isn't interested and it fucks everything

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>>75221275
>I've gone full no contact, lawyer does all the talking.
Good man
>filing for divorce feels like I'm the one giving up on my vows
God will not judge you for taking care of yourself, my dude. You already said it: she broke the vow and now she is using the ambiguity of the legal system to continue her abuse. Divorce will set you free legally and spiritually and that is exactly why she won't do it.
Do not let her get away with it. Call her bluff. File for divorce. I guarantee if you do, it might be hard, because you are clearly a guy with a real heart, but in a year or two, after everything's over and you are back on the path to building yourself into something greater, you will look back and say "that was the best decision I ever made."
Besides, family law in this country is nothing but Caesar. It is godless, a total perversion of everything that we used to hold sacred. God cares about what's in your heart, not how the postmodern globohomo state views your relationship.
>>75221492
Do you like having a job? Don't shit where you eat mate.

>>75221175
lmaoooo honestly dumbbell presses dont hit the same way as the true good ol' barbell OHP. i'm sure you would hate my guts as i spend like 3 hours squatting my ass off

>>75221492
i agree with >>75221506 , if you guys hit it off and it all falls apart later, its going to be next to miserable. unless you dont care about staying in your job long term

how about you go out together and have some drinks and figure things out with an intoxicated mind and lust? thats always a winner's combo

>>75221506

You wrote what I needed to read. Thank you for writing it.

The only thing I hate more than fighting is seeing the innocent abused. It's easy to see when that innocent person is not me, but when it is me, I am slow to recognize the situation. I didn't choose this fight, but to not fight would be cowardice. I realize that now because of what you said.

man these threads are always so chill

>>75220709
almost everyone I know that has what I would consider a regular decent paying career, has only thought about and worked toward that career since they were 16 and are shells of what a real person should be. anyone that has had to 'figure shit out' is broke for the most part unless their family members own businesses.

>>75221275
>Real unfortunate that she so easily turned them into believing I'm a violent threat.
A whole lot here, but I hope you ain't fibbing about having retained a lawyer and you best be telling him fuckin everything. Only a fool lies to his lawyer or priest.

Otherwise anon's advice for you here is pretty spot on.

Every thread has the agegapfagging. Does anyone here even lift? Can we talk about lifting guys?

Today I benched 2x2, 240 lbs
OHP 5 sets of 4 at 132 lbs

>>75214308
35 is the male wall. It's all downhill from here. Just be thankful you're not a female who hit the wall at 20.

>>75221807

Look man, I'm like the guy in crutches at the gym standing around chatting with the guys while you all squat. I'll be back at it in a bit, just gotta heal up and chilling here helps the recovery.

But speaking of gym, before my wife started going wild, I blew apart my lower back deadlifting 1.5 years ago doing only 255lb and haven't yet fully healed. Such crap. I had been squatting 225 for reps, rucking 70lbs for many miles and DL 285. So it goes. I hope to get under the bar again, but even 135 is too much.

>>75221807
I've been doing fortitude training, and it's pretty fun. Tried out the second volume tier this past training cycle, and it was only too much for calves (I also run, and I've now got what I assume is a minor tear), so I'll pare that back next time. That being said, I'm going to try volume tier three for everything else in my next training cycle. We'll see if I break something else kek
I'm frustrated that I'm not as lean as I was hoping to be after losing sixty pounds (went from fatasfatass to roughly 20% body fat according to a dexa). I don't really want to get any lighter, so I might try to put on some size after losing a couple more pounds and hitting my original goal weight.

>>75221773
Got no time for fooling.

>>75221803

Not lying, in fact, no incentive to risk sounding like a cry baby on an anon fit thread, just genuinely needed to vent.

Yep, got a lawyer and I even recorded the convo where my wife and her family tried to throw me out of the home. She had already left and shows up one day with a moving truck and her family, they demand I leave and threaten calling the cops because "you are unsafe and we know you have weapons".

Cops were never called, but they argued with me for a good 10 minutes. Ironic, who argues with a supposedly unhinged man?

>>75221869

Training legs AND including running (or in my case running and rucking), all I can say is be very careful with your feet up to your knees. It is very easy to out work those things and just forget about them because they are way down there. I'd say, just be twice as attentive to injuries as you think you should.

Trust my jacked up foot arch.

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>>75221782
I don't come from a really successful family either (nothing against them, my parents loved me and that's all I really needed) so I'm more successful in both career and income than they've ever been
And don't have a kid (yet), they raised 4 and managed to buy a 2 story house too
Meanwhile fucking good luck for myself with even coming close to that
Shits fucked man

>>75221901
Better to waste three training days resting than to waste three training weeks being hurt.

>>75221901
Yeah, I keep my running pretty low intensity, and I've basically taken both running and calf training off the roster for a bit. Trying to walk a lot. Definitely going to ease into it when I do come back, and I'm going to drop the calf volume back down to minimum when I do.

>>75221878
>her family tried to throw me out of the home
>demand I leave and threaten calling the cops because
>Cops were never called
You must be going through shit, but do not back down the first time one of this clan shows you a friendly face. I come from a family of shit people and these sorts will "talk you down" while planning how to fuck you.

This is such a shit situation, but you deserve better like >>75221506 said. As to your fear of breaking your vows, I'm one of those uber ridged traditional Catholics journalists warn people about, and while I am not a cannon lawyer (dudes who apply Catholic law to us laymen), I know damn well that marrying someone with deception in your heart is no true marriage in the eyes of God. Unlike every other Sacrament, marriage requires the honest engagement of two people. You did not get this; your "wife" seems to have taken you only under the condition that she can control you.


I will pray for you this month to first God and then to Our Lady of Perpetual Help that she may prey for you as well. When I am done, I will lift heavy weights.

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>>75221803
>>75222081
Forgot pic rel. But its the image I keep in mind when praying for those going through the ringer.

>>75214321
Ok, roidtranny. lol

>>75220693
sounds like you've lived a full life! enjoy the downhill

>>75214509
this shit is so depressing. I feel the same mentally as when I graduated and it's been 10 years. it's like I painted a beautiful painting years ago and now I just get to watch it flake away

>>75222081

> must be going through

The wildest part has been discovering that I am actually going through it. It's like when someone much weaker than you starts swinging on you, but you think you're in a play fight and they realize they're not doing damage so they grab a tool to hit you with and the first hit that cracks you you're like, "ohhhhhhh crap, they're serious".

Thank you for the advice and thank you for the prayer. True marriage or otherwise, my wife certainly seems to have abandoned me unjustly which I believe firmly falls under Paul's words in 1 Timothy 7:15 (if memory serves) on a nonbeliever abandoning.

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>>75214509
>when you get called sir and young man by different people in the span of 5 minutes.

>friday evening
>walking my dog
>come to 4-way stop intersection
>honda civic approaching
>speeding, hard breaking into the crosswalk
>not interested in dying tonight
>i try to make eye contact to wave the car on
>windows are down
>notice it's 4 highschool girls (they could be in college, but i can't tell the difference anymore)
>"THAAAAAAAAANKS"
>"YEAH THANK U SIRRRRR"
>car continues rolling through the intersection
>hear giggles as they speed off
i am the kind old man now

Fellow Oldsters
I start to get heart palpitations when I'm close to nutting. I'm 31 and it's been happening for a few years now. Maybe I just need to improve my cardio, but I have this voice in the back of my mind that wonders about the jab. Anyone else? Normal?

>>75222634
if you're concerned, tell your doc you think you're getting heart palpitations or something and they'll slap a 24 hour monitor on your chest for analysis. have a couple wanks and see what the data says. (if you don't have insurance i don't have advice, sorry)

>>75222634
If you don't see Elvis, I wouldn't worry about it.

>>75214343
>It's not so bad, I basically started life at 29
Same, but I'm only 2 years in so times are still dark but your post gives me hope

Bout to turn 33, running a moderately successful solo consulting business for 3 years and finally satisfied with my work life.
Now I don't have a clue what to do beyond that.
Got $80k in medium term investments, a gf where we want the best for the other, but we're both too autistic to treat another person genuinely well, and...
It's not quite enough to buy a house, relationship not quite good enough to get married for the time being.

I want to do something that matters, but it doesn't seem accessible right now. I mostly just work, talk to gf, and then the rest of my time I just do shit like buy dirtbikes.
There's far wrose in life, but I feel like a manchild when the only thing I can do with my energy is blow it on fun with no real value.

>>75214484
Tell the kids to keep burning down the migrant centres

>>75223035

I've got a year on you and am the anon who's wife ran off. I've had The Job, The Career, The Wife and seen each of them disappear from my life to where I'm without any now. And you know what title I've loved most? (Aside from "Christian", but I'm not here to shove faith on you)

Husband. My favorite and most challenging title in life was being a husband. I can only assume it gets more meaningful being a father... Nothing was more fulfilling than trying to be the best man for the woman I loved more than life itself. Maybe your gf isn't or won't be that person for you. I don't know.

Just my point is, given what you said, double down on being the best guy you can be...you'll find out faster than you'd think which direction you should head in next.

I don't know if that means picking up your socks, doubling your deadlift, giving more foot rubs, proposing or breaking up...just, if you're feeling aimless, aim up. (Yes, I stole that from JBP, but it is true)

>>75223078
I live in South of France - but I'll pass it on for ya.

>>75221112
Nothing is worth waiting for someone. diss her and get someone that won't let you wait.

We are all gonna make it.

I’m in my 30s and hate being alive. No friends, no relationships, no career. I offer nothing to anyone and I have no goals I want to reach. I honestly don’t even know how I have staved off suicide, probably because I can’t even get motivated to do that.

>>75225285
Get a career.

>>75224521
we are all gonna make it

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37 here, was in shape before but became an alcoholic instead of living a good life.

Sorted myself out some time ago, now getting back in shape. Still a ways to go, but things are looking up. Lost over 30kgs, down to 97kg at 6'3. Not sure how much I got to lose looking at the scale, but recently I deleted an inch from my waistline, so gonna go with that. Waist at 97cm now, so the ratio to height no longer says "obese", at least.

Other shit is good, don't have to work no more, made it on crypto. Total sperg tho, so no gf in several years. I only fuck when I'm drunk. It deletes my inhibitions and I become a goddamned menace. Pulled a quite qt 23 year old in a bar during my last bender, and railed her senseless, she soaked my whole fucking bed. But sober? Forget about it, I spill spaghetti all over the place. I have no idea how to get over that, so at that age I guess its ogre.

I might just say fuck it and go to South East Asia, even a sperg like me shouldn't have trouble getting pussy there.

>>75225295
For what purpose, who cares? I’m never going to have a family or worthwhile relationships. Money isn’t going to do a single thing for me.

>>75225349
>37 year old 4chan sperg who wants to be a bug chaser in Southeast Asia brags about fucking some bar slut who pissed all over his bed
Lol

>>75225349
fuck the fag above me, good shit anon. what made you pick up the bottle, and then put it down? also, i am 6'3" / 1.90m as well and 95kg / 208lbs so so, i was very skinny in that weight. the most skinny i've ever been. if you can cut + do a shit ton of cardio you should be golden by the end of the year, in prime shape for a bulk starting january.

>>75225349
You're like me except it's a hit of good weed that turns me into a raging sex beast. Even a moderate amount of booze gives me the whiskey dick =(

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>>75225349
Keep staying away from booze, anon. Alcoholism is a symptom, not the problem.
>t. 33yr old recovering alcoholic

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>>75225414
Lmao, it does sound kinda funny. I don't think it was piss tho, didn't stink. I don't think I will end up going to Asia, desu. Racemixing is wrong.

>>75225472
Long-term anxiety and depression. Turned out it was gluten, of all things. Leaky gut, horrid shit, turns out it can fuck up your entire system. Adding drinking on top of that didn't help, of course. But, I eliminated grains and it all went away, for the most part. Quitting booze got rid of the rest.

Goal is to be at 10-12% bodyweight before next spring. I think I can get there, not sure what my current bf% is but gpt says 22%.

>>75225490
yeah, for me it was medication. Of course, as you know, the medication quickly became far worse than the original problem, but by then it was hard to stop. Took both medical and divine intervention to get me off that poison.

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>>75213815
>be me
>doing PHUL
>week 6
>hit 1/2/3/4 for the first time in my life
>stall on bench and OHP for 3 weeks
>discouraged, take a week off
>re-look at routine
>day 1: Bench press, Incline dumbbell press, OHP, etc...
>Incline dumbbell
>dumbbell
>mfw I've been doing incline barbell for 9 weeks
>mfw missed hitting all the stabilizer muscles I needed to push bench higher
>mfw DOMS come back after doing the right lift
>mfw I liked it

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>>75225500
Checked. Yeah, I know how it goes. It masks other problems and becomes the problem to solve, so you never get to the real issue because you're treating the symptom and not the spiritual illness. Literally, only divine intervention has saved me.

>>75225285

> I offer nothing to anyone

Then your first obstacle is to offer something to yourself and let me tell you that you already have.

You could of suicideded yourself a while ago, but you didn't. You think "well, I just limped through, I wasn't living". But you were, in fact, you demonstrated perseverance in the face of such a dire situation many have never faced before.

You think you have nothing to live for only because you don't realize you have the world to gain. You could literally do the smallest thing and it would make your life measurably better.

Maybe that's as simple as picking up a sock and washing it or even, just putting the phone down and talking to the first person you see.

But you don't have nothing to live for, in fact, you came here to tell us because you intrinsically know you have hope. It is tiny, but it is there, life is more than a job, friends and a family. Life is being able to look inward and see that you are capable of bringing good into the world for someone. And today that someone is you.

>>75213815
One more session on Friday in this eight week cycle (of working out, not gear). Then a week off and a second week of half volume. I'm ready for it, fucking beat right now.
Been doing 3x/week fully body, thinking of switching to 4x/week UL. Need to work on a program though. Just thinking about it feels like upper days would be even longer than current sessions, which are about 1h15m-1h30m.

>>75225578
Man, the only reason I'm here rn is because I fell down on my knees and asked God for help, I'm sure of it. Haven't had a drink since. Oh I still had to use a shitload of benzos to get through the withdrawals, but I got off that in a week or so.

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This board is nothing but Bots reposting the same shit

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Does any of you feel like... Life looses its "taste" over time? Like I remember having this burning feeling inside of me all the time when I was a teen. Everything felt more colorful and more meaningful. Nowadays I look ahead in the future, think about that 30 something years I have till retirement and I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it. I feel exhausted. Not tired but like in general I feel like I've used up all my energy and passion in my teens and now I don't have anything left to keep myself moving. Besides wanting to keep my family safe I don't really know what I want, sometimes I don't even know what I believe or even think. I look at the people around me and they feel so much more real. Like they are not just observers but are actually there where they are. Is this normal? Is there something wrong with me?

>>75227028
That happened to me in my mid teenage years. I don't know why but I have been a walking zombie ever since.

>>75227028

"boredom" IS the greatest gift in life, here's why. In boredom you have the ultimate freedom to do as you please and if you choose something challenging you'll never be bored. Boredom is the result of doing your diligence, don't squander it by filling it with worry. It sounds to me like the challenge you face is in overcoming yourself enough to realize that the anxiety you feel surrounding boredom is due to failing to realize that you've been conditioned to think that "firefighting" is life. No, that's war. Your mind is telling you peace is war and war is peace. Many of us have learned to love war, but we should not. There is an attention grabbing thrill there unlike any other, but do not love it, though enjoy it too for what it is when it necessarily comes.

Yes, youth has the benefit of being new and shiny, but with that comes the lack of knowledge. So you're excited, but anxious about normal life situations such as kissing the girl or landing the job.

Enjoy it for what it is, but know that the second, third or even hundredth time it won't "feel" as fresh without a little more work. And that's actually a good thing, because you can cultivate that "fresh" feeling inside while still retaining earned knowledge! Each time you think to yourself, "oh this thing same thing again?" Follow it up with, "maybe this is the last time".

Want to make your next kiss feel like your first kiss? Tell yourself it is your last kiss because it just may be, you don't know.

You're 10,000 times removed from loosing your virginity? Go have sex with your wife and say to yourself, "this could be the last" and tell me she doesn't wonder what came over you. THAT is how you recapture the freshness in life, gratitude for knowing it will one day be gone...sooner than you think.

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>>75222553
NTA but I you are smart to route everything through an attorney. I'm an attorney myself and even though I don't practice family law I CONSTANTLY field divorce guy questions. #1 get everything done as quickly as possible because your main financial burden is being in a relationship with a female. #2 don't rule out using private surveillance because she's almost certainly fucking someone else and adultery can obviate alimony in a lot of states.

I went through a few lot of what you describe but I was married for 13 years and now I'm basically a single dad. I also got a lemon. Married a gunbunny like a retard. You need to mog the shit out of her by being better than her at literally everything. Fitness, intellectual pursuits, professional development, etc. She'll have boxed wine and Taylor Swift and nothing else to show for her life.

>>75227028
I think it's two things, mainly.
First, human experience is logarithmic. Consider the feeling of one pound vs two in your hand, then consider twenty vs twenty-one, and realize everything is like that. Your thirty-third year is going to feel shorter than your third, and continued changes like job growth and maturing relationships lose their punch. Second, life slows down as you age. There's just less new and exciting stuff, and things get repetitive, especially if you're in a desk job and not prioritizing variety.
These two things combine, and you start to feel like the years are slipping away without much excitement. "The days they come, but the years they go," as the saying goes.
Honestly man, you might just be bored. There's plenty of excitement to be had in life, but it's not getting thrown at you like it was when you were young, so you'll have to create it if you miss it. Pick up some new skills, see some new places, try some new foods, etc., and do it frequently. Keep the novelty going and try to grow a little bit all the time. Be a beginner as often as possible.
It might also help to start meditating. Being present can really help you see how good you have it. Some people would love a boring life.
If you don't mind movie recommendations (and subtitles), I think you might get a lot out of The Great Beauty.

>>75219536
Are you me? 33 and out of shape used to be
Ripped and hot at 28. Drinking and not training properly is killing me slowly
Started training again recently and eating a bit better but the alcohol...

Struggling to stop drinking a couple beers when I get home from work. I have a new gf and I'm gonna do my best to get back into shape for myself and so I can give her some of the best fucks of her life

>>75227389
Try non alcoholic beer anon. I was a very high functioning alcoholic, to the point where I could kill half a bottle of whiskey a night and still perform my job without issue, but I started to think about the long term consequences and had to basically quit. NA beer scratches the itch now.

>>75227453
>non-alcoholic beer
All the calories and none of the benefits?

>>75227325

Thank you for the advice. Financially, we were in a wild place. She runs her own business and had been going for a masters for the duration of our marriage, aka, she had no free time. I had a high paying tech career that i left 2.5 years ago due to ethical issues. I became her business IT support, maintenance guy at her office, secretary, 100% of the home care (from sweeping floors to making all her meals to getting her gas) and even driver so she could sleep in the back of the car on the long drives to class. I didn't think anything of it because I loved her, I just saw it as helping.

But now she took more than half our cash assets, forced me into resigning the expense rental and when I asked for maintainece just to carry me for a couple months to figure myself out...she threatened to come after me because I "have such a high earning potential". Amazing, now her lawyer is threatening taking the retirement I earned before we were even married!

In other words, I am going to fight to get and keep what is mine, but she's going to fight every inch of it. And looking at my finances, I think I'm going to be sleeping in my car this winter so that I can pay my lawyer's fees. Fine, whatever. She took what I cared about most in this world the day she abandoned me, but I won't let her take what'd left of me...my resolve.

>>75227873
You'll be fine anon. I know that it is is opaque right now but just not being married is all that matters. Premarital assets are not divisible FYI. If you need cash Uber pays around $35 an hour if you need something to hold you over. I guarantee that a 38 y/o bitch who is working on a master's is going to absolutely sink without a dude to do all the ancillary shit.

>>75215145
Kek. This

>>75228178

Thank you for the advice. Yes, this will be a war of attrition. Unfortunately, for her, I was an elite level endurance athlete and she was only good at sprints. She's trying to take me on my home field.

>>75227355
>>75227311
>>75227245
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts with me! You've given me a lot to think about.

back to the same old road to hell, wish me luck bros...

>>75221492
>girl at work who I fancy
Don't shit where you eat Anon.

>go to sleep in any position that isn't completely ideal for supporting my spine
>wake up with back pain so bad i can't pick up my dirty clothes from the ground
i dont want to get any older bros

>>75227028
i felt this way then i switched careers. i make like 80% less money but i sleep like a rock and i smile every day. kind of cliche but it worked for me. i used to work at companies where people would pass out from overwork at their desk, people would commit suicide, work every saturday and sunday for months on end ... it was rough.

i saved like a jew until i could afford to take a year off without income. i used the time to switch to a different job. like i said i'm not rich anymore but it was still worth it.

my advice is to just leave your old life behind as much as you can.

>>75229640
have you tried foam rolling? between this and doing reverse nordic curls, as well as good mornings and deficit deadlifts, my low back is p stable.

AHH!! AHH!!! I AM PICKLE RIIIICK!!!!

>>75229697
no i'll give it a shot thanks for the tip

>>75229837
fugg X-DD

>>75227873
Honest question, and I don't mean to support criminal acts or encourage any sort of violence nor would I ever suggest anything of the sort, but I hear stories like yours and I wonder... how do you not snap and kill her? She broke the most important vow a person can make and is dedicating her every move to destroying the rest of your life. It's possibly the worst betrayal a human can pull. I've hated divorce since I watched my mother put my own father through hell when I was a little kid. Seeing him struggle for all those years... how do you not take retribution?

>>75213815
my question is: how do you know when to add more weight?

>>75227028
Anon, that's why we die. That's why death is a gift. It's a renewal of the joy of being, the same way as sleep renews us for the next day. Without death, we'd all go insane.

>>75218385
This. Original Doom E1 was peak kino gaming. Original Quake was ok but they overcompensated with overcomplicated map design which left it feeling too much like a maze game at times.

>>75229914

Simplistic answer probably boils down to, "because... Jesus". But, I gave your question a fair bit of thought because, intellectually, the thought has never crossed my mind. Which is seemingly odd given the betrayal and abuse she has put me through.

For starters, I love her. Not who she chooses to be, not like a wife, but at one point in time she was an adorable little girl who's future was unknown. I see that when I see her, a hurt little insecure girl who's lashing out (at me) for control in order to protect herself. She's wrong, I have proven I'm no threat by sacrificing so much for her, but she's chosen the this path, she's guilty now.

I don't want retribution and never have, I do want what is mine and getting it back will certainly feel like retribution to her.

What I want most is for my wife to apologize for it all and come back to me even still. But she won't, so what I want in light of that fact is to simply take what is mine and be free from ever having to deal with or see her and her family ever again. I hate violence, but I hate abstaining from necessary violence even more. There is no need for violence here because my physical life is not threatened. Don't think that I think myself some enlightened master of self control, I am only this way "because... Jesus".

>>75220636
I still lose my shit at "baby slam balls"

>CAPTCHA: H8GYM

I DONT THINK SO YOU NIGGER FUCKING WEBSITE

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>>75214010
>27
>living alone in apartment driving 10+ year old car in job with no raise in 2 years, khv
>33
>living in house, new (slightly used) car, in job making 30% more, married
life hits you fast bros

>>75231708

That's the truth and congrats! Kiss your wife good, all that can leave even quicker...

>>75231708
i can't do 5 more years of this

>>75231708
What gave you the motivation?

>>75231691
watch it out guys, i got banned the other day for saying the n word here. word on the street is that 4chan is running some sort of filter or AI, whatever, for gamer words outside anything that isnt /b/.

>>75221275
What she did is absolutely grounds for annulment, what the fuck are you doing nigger. No sane bishop would give you crap about that around here.

>>75231856
nah it's manual or else it's a shit filter that misses a ton or has a weeks long delay then you get banned for the most unexpected shit on random boards you rarely visit and it just leaves you wtf because you expected the ban but not for that post lol.

>>75232051

I think I said it elsewhere, but I'm not Catholic nor connected with organized religions. Just love Jesus and read my Bible. I'm probably most closely aligned with 'nondenominational / Evangelical' Christians.

Still, point remains, I have scriptural grounds for divorce and I will be doing exactly that now (in no small part thanks to bouncing ideas of you fine folks).

>>75232174
Based. Godspeed. Not being Catholic, you really only need to worry about the legal aspects.

>>75214010
My friend turned 54 this year.
Had first and last serious and real relationship with gril at 20(19f). Two kids. She went schitzo but he didn't know but soon found out. They were abusive the first year but not after. Lasted 6 years and she went full tweaker and he kicked her out of his house. Got full and sole custody. Raised the kids to adulthood.
Never had another relationship again.
Still has money, house, retired. Kids moved out long ago, love him very much, grandkids too.
But now he just picks up random chicks and fugs when he feels like it. Once or twice every few months.
Just lifts and hikes. Mtb. He looks jacked.
The fittest he's ever been in his whole life, doesn't drink since he was 27. No drugs.
Just the king of his castle. People think he's late twenty's or mid thirties. His hair just starting to get pepper.

>>75234072
this fucking rocks, love to hear it. dont lose hope guys, there's still plenty of time

>>75230299
that depends. i've been sticking to high volume shit on my current weights (1/2/3/4) until i can bust out 20 reps on the first 3 lifts, and today i got a clean and jerk PR without really putting too much effort on the movement itself for a month or so. "side stepping" periodization means basically to stick to a weight until you can rep it X amount of times.

Maybe later you will see that your 500lbs squat does not go up no matter how much you try, which by then you would benefit from something like wave periodization. you can either drop the weight, say, 450lbs, and stay there till you can rep it 15 times. then add 10lbs.

or stay at 500lbs until you can also rep it 12 times, then continue. it depends on your goals