What are some common nutrition/fitness/health myths that are blatantly false that are widely believed to be true?
>Abs are made in the kitchen
>>75218116carbs make you fat. both the normie and schizo believe this.
>>75218116>its fine to eat donuts and drink coke as long as i stay under 2500 calories
>>75218116You can't outrun the fork. Technically true because the people trying to lose weight are lazy slobs, but runners constantly outrun the fork by maintaining on an amount of calories that would make a sedentary person fat.
>>75218130>>Abs are made in the kitchenbut u need to be reasonably lean to observe abs yes, but it's true that no commonly (and not so vommonly) prescrived abs excercises do fuckall for abs, but i have fixed that problem for good: >>75206417>>75218312>carbs make you fat. both the normie and schizo believe this.carbs are metabolized to fat very quickly if u aren't doing sth physical at the very moment u're consuming them they also don't satiate u for shit that's why u eat more and more and even more and then u fall into comatose sleep - yes that's how u get obese > last year i have consumed 20 (yes 20) kilos of candy while staying "shreded" - i just didn't eat much at the same time and i was very active, don't recommend, took 5 visists to dentist to sort out the mess i've made ... and small pile of cash :D eat real food if u can, i can't sometimes
>>75218452>but runners constantly outrun the fork by maintaining on an amount of calories that would make a sedentary person fat.and sumo wrestlers don't outroon the fork because they eat more than kid size roonners
I think fibre might be overrated. high protein diets give me massive, healthy shits that feel great. I hardly have any fibre
>>75218415>its not Okay to enjoy lifePost body (you won't)
>>75218116>nuts are a good source of proteinThey are a cheaper source of protein gram per gram than most meat, but they are primarily a source of fats. Only people that can't gain weight should be looking at nuts for protein.
>>75218705Your comment is irrelevant to the claim you cited
>>75218116>Sugar is bad for youThe more I get into ray peat's stuff the more certain otherwise inexplicable diet results make sense I still havent lost any more weight but I haven't gained any either despite eating lots of sugar
>>75218739>The more I get into ray peat's stuffDidnt read further.
>>75218716See, retarded people like you are why so much misinformation gets perpetuated. You can't even read! But you'll have no compunction about throwing your opinions around.
>>75218691What shes saying is the quality of food matters not just raw caloriesFucking hell man
That low fat is healthier. Old science from 80-90s that is still stuck in people heads
>>75218742>>75218743
>>75218749I went on a low fat diet for blood pressure and it caused a psychotic episodeApparently thats pretty common, fucking scariest day of my life
>>75218743The fact that you responded to a totally innocuous yet true statement with anger and pejoratives really says a lot about you.Let's break down your post so you can try and see where you went wrong.>nuts are a good source of proteinHere's the statement you made that nuts are a good source of protein. The corollary would be that nuts are not a good source of protein. E.g. they do not contain protein or the protein is low quality.>They are a cheaper source of protein gram per gram than most meat, but they are primarily a source of fatsHere, you state that nuts, per gram of protein are cheaper than most meats. You also state that the primary macronutrient content of nuts is fat. Price has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the protein, and the amount of fat in a food has no effect whatsoever on the quality of that food's protein. So we can discard this first follow-up.>Only people that can't gain weight should be looking at nuts for protein.Here you cite the high caloric value of nuts. The caloric value of food has nothing to do with the quality of its protein content. So we can now discard the entirety of your comment as irrelevant to the premise. I hope you can now see that the previous comment was entirely accurate. I'm not sure why you got so angry.
>>75218752I apologize but I dont take advice from people who try to live entirely off wheat germ.
>>75218759Thats not a thing that happens. You have underlying mental health issues
>>75218774>philosophy 101 introduction to logical argument applied to casual conversation>still fails to actually discern meaning from words in a rowCan't help you, friend. There's a lot more in my short few sentences than you're apparently capable of understanding, which is strange because I didn't say much.
>>75218850>The fact that you responded to a totally innocuous yet true statement with anger and pejoratives really says a lot about youSeem to have missed this because you repeated your mistake. Get well soon bro.
>>75218807Be that as it may, it only happened the once and resolved immediately after adding more fat. There was a high carb low fat diet in the 80s that was famous for making people an hero so its not just me
>>75218116What's the point? You wouldn't believe it anyway.
>>75218801I gotta be honest I have heard absolutely nothing about wheat germHe mostly talks about sugar, thyroid and vit a, e and k
>>75218116>breakfast is le most important mealinb4 retard says you cant skip breakfastI know, niggerBoomers think if you don't eat eggs in the morning your gains will evaporateYou can portion your eating throughout the day however you like, the timing doesn't matter. Only macros/micros/overall calories matter
>>75218116>carbs make you fat >keto is a good way to lose fatlink related goes on both fields https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341197776_A_plant-based_low-fat_diet_decreases_ad_libitum_energy_intake_compared_to_an_animal-based_ketogenic_diet_An_inpatient_randomized_controlled_trial>cardio makes u lose musclemy guess is those who do a lot of cardio eschew excess muscles on purpose, weight is weight and you don't want to schlep it around a distance, so brainlets look at marathoner and think twig mode it's because he runs>bmi over 25 is perfectly fine if ure in low fatsusually pure delusion where folks think that coat of fat they have is part of muscles, you really have to go roid monkey mode to have both over 25 bmi and sub 15 fats
>>75218312They do make you fat, retard.
>>75219542>>cardio makes u lose musclewas worried about this as Im a skinny fella. I start every workout with 30-50 floors on the stairclimber, or I run a mile. And then lift. Just need to eat more I guess
>>75218116>what are the most common myths that are blatantly falsebasically everything in this thread, on this board most of the time.
>>75218452But that's true only for elite or long distance runners. Causally running 30k per week is nothing.
>>75218116Fruit/Vegetable = automatically Healthy.Zero understanding of fructose, fiber, glycemic response, vitamin/mineral density, pesticides, oxalates etcYou don't even need to worry about food myths specifically, you should simply assume everyone has zero food knowledge until proven otherwise.
>>75220754>animals came before plantsWhy are ketolards always this retarded?
>>75220754How come they didn't put alcohol on the list? Alcohol is much older than fucking butter and is an old food. Old means it's healthy for you right?
>>75220850>>75220862Are you guys vegan? Answer me honestly.Myself, I'm just against UPFs.
>>75220862wait... breatharians were right all along?!
>>75219651schizo detected
>>75218116>common nutrition/fitness/health mythsLeg days are boring/hardEvery workout session should be hard, but I particularly enjoy lifting heavy shit as I push with a leg drive, it feels like I'm lifting the world in my back and legs
>>75218116>It’s ok to eat 1000000000 calories so long as you do a jog every morning >you can lose belly fat through crunches>cardio kills gains>carbs bad>fats badand the most controversial of all>seed oil bad
>>75220754Red meat back in the day was not the same as red meat now, and we didn’t eat nearly as much of it back in the day, for most hunter gatherers something like 2/3 to 3/4 of their diet was plant matter with a few exceptions
>>75218462>carbs are metabolized to fat very quicklyThey aren't, in fact it's the opposite, carbs are rarely converted to fat, fat is the most lipogenic macronutrient. Not only is this experimentally true, overfeeding fat leads to more fat gain than carbs, and 99% of fat on your body comes from fat in the diet, it's also common sense. Why wouldn't the fat in the diet be easily stored? To think otherwise is basically the equivalent of thinking that the protein you eat is not in the fact the protein that gets used in the body, fat you eat is the fat that gets stored on your gut.
>>75218116Saturated fat is responsible for CVD and seed oils are healthy
>>75218573I actually think im not shitting as well because of severely under-eating protein on my diet. I used to eat 250-300g of chicken or steak for dinner but cut that back to 100g along with everything else and now hardly can squeeze out a pellet when going to the toilet
>>75222806Disproven by many many many isotope studies. If you mean modern hunter gatherers sure. Agricultural revolution was necessary because we had hunted all the big fat animals to extinction (red meat)
>>75218739I want to into peating but its too difficult to find out what is actually meant by peat dieting?
Always do the opposite of what anyone tells you even yourself.
You need long rests. Fuck that, volume is king, rest 1 minute at most and just do more sets
>>75220147All of the shit you wrote is irrelevant for a normal healthy human beings.
>>75222883>carbs are rarely converted to fat, fat is the most lipogenic macronutrient. Not only is this experimentally true, overfeeding fat leads to more fat gain than carbs, and 99% of fat on your body comes from fat in the diet, it's also common sense. Why wouldn't the fat in the diet be easily stored? To think otherwise is basically the equivalent of thinking that the protein you eat is not in the fact the protein that gets used in the body, fat you eat is the fat that gets stored on your gut.why did u w8 so long bot to write 100% falsegoods responding to my post?
>>75223299https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37016-8>Although the above pathways are well established, adipocyte DNL surprisingly accounts for <2% of adipose TG content; instead, most adipocyte TGs are derived from circulating TGs found in lipoproteins4,8. Supporting the notion that DNL contributes minimally to TG in fat stores, loss of adipocyte Fasn, the rate-limiting enzyme of DNL, has little effect on total lipid accumulation in adipose tissues in mice under normal feeding conditions9. Instead, adipocyte specific-Fasn knockout mice exhibit browning of white adipose tissue and improved glucose homeostasis9,10. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15601204_Fat_and_carbohydrate_overfeeding_in_humans_Different_effects_on_energy_storage>Carbohydrate overfeeding produced progressive increases in carbohydrate oxidation and total energy expenditure resulting in 75-85% of excess energy being stored. Alternatively, fat overfeeding had minimal effects on fat oxidation and total energy expenditure, leading to storage of 90-95% of excess energy. Excess dietary fat leads to greater fat accumulation than does excess dietary carbohydrate, and the difference was greatest early in the overfeeding period.De novo lipogenesis will always net less calories stored as fat, obviously so, because de novo lipogenesis itself takes energy. If you want to get fat on carbs you have to>surpass the greater thermic effect>surpass the glycogen stores (the equivalent for fat is adipose tissue, which is bodyfat)>surpass the adaptive thermogenic effect (raising of metabolism)>surpass the loss of calories you get from de novo lipogenesisTHEN, the carbs will be stored as fat. That seems much more difficult then>excess lipids consumed>excess lipids go straight to adipose tissue
