I'd really appreciate 5cm, 2.5, about an inch on each sideNo steroids tho
>>75479181Is this really natty? Why the fuck would anyone pin if you can look like this without. Great work bro
>>75479202lolno
>>75479181>I'd really appreciate 5cm, 2.5, about an inch on each side>No steroids thoughthere u go: >>75478533>>75478536>>75479214>lol no u ccan't grow "capped" delts natty, u need to roid and hope for the best true, u are not gonna build delts with anything conventional, but if u think outside of one and only plane of motion box u'll get them effortlessly
>>75479202You can have 2 guys in the normal range of genetic potential for natty muscle building and have a 200-300% disparity in obtained muscle mass between the two in the same time, accounted for diet and training.
>>75479304>You can have 2 guys in the normal range of genetic potential for natty muscle building and have a 200-300% disparity in obtained muscle mass between the two in the same time, accounted for diet and training.these 2 hypothetical guys of the same race height and weight will simply move differently, it has an zero to do with genetics and since: >>75479266>u are not gonna build delts with anything conventionalit will depend on how the traditional movements are performed and even then 3 times difference? naaah not true op is of course roods in jpg, doode could do swimming without an pool lol - laden with water, biceps looks enormous relaxed but when he tries to flex it there is nothing there - it's almost flat lol
>>75479202>if you can look like this withoutYou and the majority of people can't. He can. Even if you undergo the same training and diet, some things are just based on luck and set in stone.Hell even if you take steroids you might not look like that.
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>>75479181You're not building shoulders for width, you build lats and work on your posture
>>75479181A little bit, but temper your expectations. The delts respond more than anything to androgen and a juicer who doesn't even train delts will have bigger shoulders than a natty who can overhead press 315. That's just the way it goes. I can do laterals with the 90 lb dumbbells but I still get mogged in the delt department by the roiders in my gym.
>>75479338Okay, I will take your word over that of dozens of qualified scientists that have conducted many studies and metaanalysis on this topic.
>>75479376cope. width is all side delts and triceps. (apart from bone structure ofc)
>>75479181these roidfucks are so fucking delusional man who takes pictures like this and posts em on the internet get a fucking life
>>75479181probably half inch on each side, and inch total
>>75479831That's just not true. Delts are a part of it but having a very wide back with big lats and traps is 90% of your girth. This is why swimmers are so fucking wide despite having tiny delts (for their size)
>>75479825OH MY REDDIT I LOVE LE BASEDENCE THEYD NEVER LIE TO ME!
>>75479266Why are you typing like an ESL?English, motherfucker, do you speak it?
>>75479820>I can do laterals with the 90 lb dumbbellThe absolute LARP on this Hungarian goat-fucking forum!lol, lmao even
>>75479962>>75479825u r boring bot, and weak, delt is here bot: >>75479266
>>75479924>of your girthwhy are you talking about girth now, it was about width. width is delts and triceps
>>75480239Do you have any actual response or just that?
>>75480755you just make no sense, what should i response to that? first speaking about width, then about girth. two totally different things.fucking low iq monkey
>>75480765>>75479831That's just not true. Delts are a part of it but having a very wide back with big lats and traps is 90% of your width. This is why swimmers are so fucking wide despite having tiny delts (for their size).There you go, you spastic autist.
>>75480127Nobody's gonna read that ESL mumbojumbo
>>75480797back literally doesnt make you wider you retarded cretin. it maybe creates an illusion of width from the back, but not measurable you width, faggot
>>75479181This you OP?
>>75479970It's not a huge feat of strength. Most people just never push the weight on laterals and don't progress. Plenty of guys can do the same.
>>75479181>>75479820Just use fake steroids lmao
>>75479181didn't this guy kill himself
>>75480848and that's why u keep trying to berate me bot :D side deltoids not only increase your width but also raise shoulder up both by muscle volume and pulling shoulder back >>75479266>but do u have better delt than this rooder? of course and i am not even finished growing it
>>75480797Gotta go with lateral deltoid with guy on this one, it's just total width vs. torso width and lats are only torso width. Unless I'm missing something and they "push" the shoulders out, which I don't think.
>>75481757Nobody is doing proper lateral raises with 90lb dumbbells. Sure, you can throw your whole body into it and swing them up, but it's basically a traps exercise at that point, with basically zero benefits for the muscles they're actually supposed to work.
>>75483165>Nobody is doing proper lateral raises with 90lb dumbbells. Sure, you can throw your whole body into it and swing them up, but it's basically a traps exercise at that point, with basically zero benefits for the muscles they're actually supposed to work.but lateral raises do not grow side delts lol, muscle can't be properly worked while poked by bones of shoulder joint - it doesn't fucking matter what weight u use the movement is pure garbage and i have working alternative:>>75479266
>>75483199>only lift that bodybuilders with huge side delts do for side delts doesn't work>poked by bones (impingement is known medical myth)I refuse to believe you're actually this stupid, so please troll another board.
>>75483011>>75483199Waste of digits because of one same-fagging ESL
>>75483165I can do 1-2 reps with strict form on the 90's. That's not a useful rep range though so I only go up to the 80's and do 5-6 reps. I can do 15-20 reps with perfect form with the 60's. Abs and back tight, zero torso motion. All shoulder.
>>75479181Steroids probably stunt you anyways these trannies have ti be at a high dose for months and are entirely fucked up on how to train.
>>75479181fuck ur hot
