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>>75517327
I think I did. It’s only on these special occasions I can let loose and still have enough control the next day. I can live a little and know not to beat myself up the next day because I’m not a snowflake.

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>>75517327
There is no fucking way out, everything always goes wrong for me. The negative snowball effects have accumulated so strongly that even if I got lucky now it wouldn't override the past. Money is increasingly worthless and being a wagie is another hell. I'll go to work tomorrow and nothing will change. I hate other people more than anyone could possibly know, in fact I hate the pricks here most of all because they're the same as normies but they can't even see it

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My dad and I are going to have an intervention with mom.
Her mental health has spiraled out of control.
Wish me luck bros.

>>75517327
It was good anon, thanks for asking. Had a good time with the family, and made some Mac and cheese to bring over which they liked

>>75517689
what happened to your mother

First Thanksgiving sober for maybe 12 years. Lifted heavy at the gym too. Went home and all I have is video games and I’m bored off my ass. What the FUCK

>>75517364
Better than me, Anon. I promised myself I’d only have one plate. But I loaded that plate up with everything. Lots of carbs. Then I went back for dessert. I had a slice of pie and passed out. I was really hopping not to have so much food I’d pass out.

>>75517327
One beer and one shot, time to get wasted woooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>75517327
>talking with mom
>she mentions how a guy hit on her at the airport the other day
>I say must be nice, can’t remember last time I got hit on
>she says I should just hang around women who are 50+
I’m literally going to kms

>>75517865
It’ll be fine.

>>75517689
She probably found you posting here, checked out the site and it corrupted her.

>>75517864
your shallow life catching up on you?

>>75517972
Yeah actually

>>75517327
This whole fucking day has been a complete nightmare

>>75517977
I'll have a jack and coke, make it a double.

>>75517977
How so? Hope things go better for you tomorrow, anon.

>>75517327
I fasted all day and didn't eat the Thanksgiving meal. Then I pigged out and ate a cookie and like a third of a bag of chips. Still at a caloric deficit, but kind of disappointed in the lapse. As for a drink, I've been sober for a few years, but since this is fiction, Lagavulin 16, neat.

>>75517984
It's just a bunch of fucking bullshit

>>75517831
BPD.

Was cutting extremely well recently. Thanksgiving put a dent in that. But I will be back on my grind starting tomorrow.

Is it right to tell this woman that her husband is cheating on her with my ex?

>>75517953
I don't know the real context of that post in your life, but your mom might be a confidence crushing narcissist that you can't see because you're too busy hating yourself and it's your mom.

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>>75517327
>after Lift season with new lifter Korean fren at gym
>invited by step dad and mom, they are Pentecostal pastors
>goes, because the one Hispanic lady makes a fucking banger of flans
>ah, I see they are same, the 22-23 kids with no social skills, the boomers goooing for Israel, the Gen alphas using the word “cooked” ingrained in their vocabulary they also placed me on the kiddies table (27 at this point)
>ate turkey, casseroles, etc as they try to convert me back into the church
>ate and leaves with a plate of flan,
Not a total bad day

>>75517327
>on Monday took my FwB to a concert (free tickets), she was bit cranky, but then we had great sex as usual
>on Tuesday had a date with a girl I've been dating for 1,5 months, she continues to prove to be somewhat unstable, took her home, we fooled around but she only let me put a tip of my P into her V, claims both virginity and past SA, next day she tells me she doesn't like to text and I should call her instead, ignore it and text her, two days without respons
>I'm going to break things off, screw this
>also on Tuesday when I was with the girl mentioned above a different girl I was on a date with last week comes in with another guy, she says hi but tells the guy to go somewhere else
>next day text the girl in question asking her out, she rejects me in a polite way, says we should stay in touch (uh-huh)
>on Thursday match with a new girl, she wants someone to come over to fix her cupboard
>meet her, she notices I don't have any tools with me
>she looks scared shitless as we're going to her home, tells me she's good and leaves
>go home and visit my FwB later that night
>currently looking for someone for the weekend, no dice so far
My week was eventful. Essentially three girls proved to be a dud, but at last I have stories to tell

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>>75517327
Rum and coke please,

I've been feeling more despondent than usual

I was in good spirits recently thinking that maybe , just maybe, I might have found a nice girl that I liked to be around that felt the same way about me.

Yeah that wasn't it.

Of course this spiralled into a negative feedback loop of me looking at the larger picture of my life, it becomes pretty clear that people just don't really like me or want to hang out with me.
People rarely text me and when they do its usually for some other reason beyond just catching up or keeping friendships alive , the only people in my life to keep in regular contact with me are my parents.
I don't think I can hold out for much longer, people weren't made to feel so lonely for so long
>They say every life precious but nobody care about mine
I would rather not have been born if I knew this is how things would be for me.

anyway it was nice to let some tears out at least

>>75517327
>health
Got to under 280 the other day. I haven’t even been trying. I need to actually put forth some effort into this. I know I can be back under 230lbs in like 5 months if I just clean my diet up, count my calories, and go on walks more often.
>job
It is what it is. Its stable pay. But not great. It keeps me active and out of the house and on a routine/schedule, makes time pass faster. But until I put the above into practice I feel like I’m just rotting faster now. It is nice to see my savings begin to rebuild.
I’m thinking I’m gonna pay all of my credit card debt off as soon as I can. Like, put 1 paycheck in each month. That should get it paid off by the time I’m about 200lbs again. It will remove another source of anxiety or overwhelmed feeling from my life. Savings will build way slower though. Kinda consider it that I have $0 while I have any debt though.
>social
About the same. Weird shit has happened with friends I used to have. Lesbian chick I had a falling out with after I tried to sleep with her & her Gf (they used to cuddle and kiss me can’t blame me for thinking otherwise…) started liking my stories and posts on social media, but she moved to a new state a year ago. She moved to a state I may end up moving to gene I get my shit in order though. Idk how lesbian she is. She’s hot though. Tomboy tier latina, not dyke tier.
Other chick posted my old PFP on her private story like a minute after I changed it. Idk what that’s about.
Have a girl about 6 hours away from me who has wanted to hookup for like 5 years now. She’s mid, but cute and fun to be around. Shes fresh out a relationship. It would maybe be worth doing if she was still in my city. I’m more so focused on the fact that it’s a real time example of “women always have their next options in mind.” Kinda turns me off. She has a nice ass and I know she would do anything I wanted but its too much work for some ran through mid pussy I could have had when she was 18

>>75517864
You made the right move anon. I have been hungover all day and it fucking sucks. I also hate how I behave when I'm drunk. I had about 7 drinks which is the most I've had in one night in 2 years. I never want to drink that much again

>>75518219
What’s in it for you?

>>75517327
I’m a leaf so no thanksgiving for me this weekend but god I can’t wait for Christmas to be over

>>75517327
Pokémo Go is the only thing keeping the kids fit in the family. I hope to get them into bouldering but I’ll be paying $2k a year for the family climbing gym. Ahhh.

>>75518219
This anon >>75519953 is correct that’s what you need to take a couple days to ask yourself. I want you to write it on paper, just free write answering that prompt. Even if it goes beyond the direct answer and into why you even care. Then also walk around your house alone for like 20 minutes just talking about this out loud also answering this question.


It seems to me from what you’ve posted you are overly attached to her. That you’ve been watching her socials saw them together stalked the guy found he’s married.
If he took your ex from you then he did you a favor good riddance let them both be miserable together he’ll get caught eventually now you’re free of a hoe and came waste less time finding a woman who respects you. Telling someone without true evidence like pictures or screenshots of texts doesn’t really help you either.


Assuming my assumption was spot on let me ask you. If you had a sandwich and you thought it was the best sandwich ever and then you found out I came inside it when you weren’t looking would you spend time dwelling on that cum sandwich or would you immediately cleanse your mouth and do your best to forget it and then do what you could to find new and better sandwiches which I haven’t cum inside of? The sandwich may have been tainted but that’s hardly a reason why your life should come to a halt and now be 100% all about dwelling on that sandwich. You should be glad you found out I came in it before you took too many bites, move on, and learn to enjoy better sandwiches which no one else can cum in.

>>75520000
If you do have the money I think $2000 a year is very worthwhile to ensure your kids can grow up healthy and active in the shit storm that is todays world where obesity is an epidemic and most kids are inactive and weak never knowing or learning how to challenge themself and struggle and chase goals. Small price to pay for something invaluable which is getting rare these days
>this dude has a family
How old are you man? I’m 29. I feel like a wreck. I’m trying but struggling to get my shit in order. I feel like I’m still like 17. All through my 20s I felt like I was 12-15 mentally. Now in my late 20s 17 MAYBE 20 is how I feel mentally. Which blows. I can’t imagine having kids. All of what I’m working towards is having my hair enough in order that I can legitimately and genuinely think about what I want, whether that’s a wife and kids or not. I’m gonna be 35 when the time comes. I’ve only had 2 GFs and they were barely real relationships.
What I’m asking is for any advice and whether you can relate, whether this ever changes? Idk if it’s as simple as “real” adults never existed everyone’s winging it. Like I do see how most my age and even older than me are incredibly immature even those who have their shit together na skids of their own. I just worry I won’t ever be ready and I’m destined to die alone as an autist. Like that me having kids is irresponsible. I want to know I can provide and also be in the headspace to raise them correctly, to be better than me. And I feel like the same spergy adhd teenager I was as a teen still

>>75517482
Damn, this is exactly how I feel too. I feel like I'm suffocating because there is no viable path forward in life. All roads lead to hell

>>75517884
Slow down anon your measly shitpeasant body can't handle power like that your dick is going to wormhole into your butthole and you'll be gay for the rest of your life and all you can do after that is suck dick and fondle balls.

>31 YO khv with loose skin after dropping 180lbs
It’s over, isn’t it?

>>75520051
I’m an Aunt. Not white and so family dynamic is it takes a village to raise kids. So of the adult siblings of mine who don’t have their family focuses on the nieces and nephews collectively. If I get my own bundle my siblings will do the same with mine.

As for the mentality thinking very young I went through the same thing if anything I may still be struggling with it depending on the situations that happen.

You’re an adult when you realize your parents don’t know anymore than you. Your wisdom comes instinctually. In other words you trust yourself and your experiences but your fair and realistic about the application and as always what you don’t know you’re humble enough to ask like what you are doing now.

At the end of the day you have survived all the worst days of your life and worrying about fall out from a regret that hasn’t even happened is a waste of time.

You live/are the decisions you make.

Make of that what you will.

>>75520086
I’m saving your post ma’am thank you for this.
>You’re an adult when you realize your parents don’t know anymore than you. Your wisdom comes instinctually.
I’m happy you said this. It’s been on my mind lately. I feel I’ve got that point where my parents really don’t know more than me. But I haven’t acted on it a ton yet.
>In other words you trust yourself and your experiences but your fair and realistic about the application and as always what you don’t know you’re humble enough to ask like what you are doing now
This is what I think I need to practice more, trusting myself and my instincts. I find myself wanting to do what my parents say, just automatically mentioning plans to them and waiting for their reaction. I need to stop that and learn to just act and follow through. It makes sense reading it how you’ve said it.

Thank you, good luck with your nieces & nephews. I had an idea, if there’s any sports they show interest in at all see if you can sign them up for any community teams and obviously be super encouraging and proud whenever they have games. I think if they can learn to associate the sport with good memories or fun it becomes likely they’ll try to join school teams when they’re older. Which has benefits other than just health

>>75517327
Happy hatesgiving amerifucks. Which family member did you get into a fist fight with this time? Why can't mericans be civilized enough to spend time with their family without drama for a single evening? It's not difficult. Instead of trying to be as obnoxious and annoying as you can, you could just sit there politely and eat and talk normally.

>>75520148
I think you're spending too much time on reddit. You think it's a common occurance for American families to fight with each other about Trump or something?

>>75520148
Not sure how fucked your family is but I bet for 99.9% of people absolutely nothing happened last night outside of eating too much turkey

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>>75517327
>bench shitting itself
>can't brace for heavy lifts anymore
>can't focus on anything and coffee doesn't help
>sniffles
>nooticed dark circles under eyes today
might be time for a week off from the gym idk the last time I took a break besides for dental work

I'm doing ok of sorts.
Bit anxious waiting on neetbux since I suffer from psychosis and the stress from work does me no good.
My training is going ok, just need to go on daily walks to burn off the lbs in time for hitting up girls in Japan on holiday next year, asides that things are good save my body being a bit weak atm and as such I have to cut my boxing training short (that and I need to regain the confidence to go back to boxing gym so I can compete next September but one day at a time)

>>75520163
My tummy hurd

>>75517327
My old friends aren't the same. They're so soft. I don't even wanna associate with em. I asked out a total fox monday and got respectfully declined cause she's seeing someone. I'll try again in a month. She's my muse.

>>75519158
You might need to look at yourself or what kind of friends your friends are to understand why it’s even happening. Some friends are so petty to not want to be friends with someone anymore because they’re “not fun like they used to be”


Makes me realize how lucky I am to have the friends I have. I hit the jackpot.

>>75520252
Creep

>>75520262
It's called persistence queer. Men used to pursue women once upon a time

>>75520252
this nigga think he the dude who got raped in Aku no Hana

>>75520292
Manga is gay and you're a nigger

>>75518796
So what, does your ego feel satiated now, or what? You tell your friends (or 4chan) what a playa you are and it feels good?

Seems like a fuckload of work (and pigeondancing) for...?

>>75517327
Bros, I need advice. I want to stop seeing a girl I've been seeing for the past 2 months. She says she's a romantic and sensitive and it shows. I was considering sending her a text, but the more I think about it, the more I think I should see her in person, even though it's going to be harder. Wat do?

>>75520133
>ma'am
this board has changed...

>>75520352
Um, do what's hard obviously. What are you? Some kinda coward or something

>>75520274
It’s called being a creep and future sexual assault

>>75520383
I fucking hate this place so much. Nothing but niggers and faggots.

>>75520161
>You think it's a common occurance for American families to fight
what is this thread about lol

>you're spending too much time on reddit.
this is 4chan. look at the url.

>>75520383
Don’t be retarded. At worst it would be considered sexual harassment if he does it pathetically and near immediately after the first rejection. But she’s on a list of women he asks out every other month? Get out of here.

Gotta shoot your shot.

>>75520370
Post cock faggot :^)

I ruin my friendships, I ruin my relationships and wonder why I'm alone. I also catched an STD, so I'm really at my lowest low. Work isn't also doing well. I have a self diagnosed BPD and plethora of other mental illnessess. One of my medications isn't working.

>>75520163
That's not what amerifats are saying. Every hatesgiving they are whining and complaining about getting into fights with their family. Coming to think of it, americunts always complain about fighting with everyone they know all the time in every social setting. They are uncivilized degenerates who can't socialize like real humans. Obviously my point is that I have zero problems with my own family, friends, or even acquaintances and colleagues. It's beyond me how every hatesgiving (and xmas), amerfags are sharing stories of fighting close relatives and asking each other how to cope. Their culture is diseased with hate, and it's gotten so bad none of them can even look at each other without getting into screeching competitions. They have devolved and have ceased to be humans.

>>75520402
I said reddit because that is where people who claim to disown their family over politics go to post. In reality it is not a common thing. That is the only context that makes your post make any sense to me
Autistic /fit/cels feeling uncomfortable around extended family is another thing entirely

Where do I meet women if nightclubs are basically a sausage fest where I live, I have no instagram for social proof and my network from school has moved on (I'm late 20s)? The only place where I see some women is the gym but when I'm there I'm focused on my sets (and I suppose if they were interested in me they'd give me a sign, I won't stop what I'm doing to keep trying my luck with every woman I see, it's a small gym anyway so there's only a handful of women who don't have a dude with them)

>>75520441
Tinder. People may shit on it, but with little effort you can get results, you don't have to be a chad

>>75520016
Damn you fag, all I meant was that guy should only do it if he hates his ex or wants to fuck the guys wife and that he shouldn’t be thinking of “doing the right thing” because that’s fag shit

>>75520432
>In reality it is not a common thing
>"Boohoo, it's hatesgiving again, how do I survive spending time with my family. We always get into fist fights every year."
What is this thread about, you lying fuck? Literally every year since the internet was invented, you degenerate retards have complained about this fact. But when asked why you're too degenerate to socialize like real humans, you claim all your complaints are fake. Sorry, but your institutionalized doublethink doesn't work on me.

Everyone has an opinion these days with hardly any context or details. Doesn't even matter what the topic is.

>>75520352
It's a trick. She has a penis. Been down that route countless times.

>>75520346
Nta and idk if this is just a maturing thing or what but I don’t even care about women that much anymore. 21 year old me felt like the shit when I got laid, like there was a time I went from hookup to hookup had a girl break up with me and hours later had another girl gagging on my cock just tons of bitches and I felt like a king for it. These days fuck,
>have a chick who wants to smash
It would require me driving 5 hours and that’s enough reason not to.
>have a chick who dumped a guy who stole money from me and backstabbed me treated me like shit in my DMs
And I don’t care to. She’s batshit insane and there’s probably a 50/50 chance it bites me in the ass, like she would go and tell the guy to hurt him even more as some cope to confirm she was right to dump him and then twist it into I raped her, which the retard would believe but even without that I just don’t care about it.
>got a handful of other women interested
And I just don’t fucking wanna. Maybe I’m depressed but sex doesn’t excite me like that anymore. It’s not test, I’m as honey as I was at 18, but I just don’t care for a pointless hookup. Afterwards I feel “that was fun I guess” and that’s it. There’s no more of that glow or on top of the world feeling. It’s more like masturbation premium for me now. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy sex still and I’ll think back to some of my past experiences and think “wow I really did that? I destroyed that chick holy shit I fucking wrecked and ruined her pussy,” but that feels cool for all of 30 seconds.
I want a GF, yet at the same time I highly doubt I’ll ever meet a woman I actually like enough to take seriously.

I'm barely holding up. I've got two kids - a two year old and a 6 month old, and I run out of physical and mental energy for them very, very quickly. I don't even know what to do about it, everything I've read says to "mAkE tImE fOr YoUrSeLf", but when my wife and I tried to do exactly that and go on a date while leaving the kids with the grandparents, all we ended up doing was reaffirming our love, which was great but it didn't help with how goddamn tired we both are because of our children. At this point I'm just trying to survive with the hope that it gets easier as they get older.

>>75517327
Happy Thanksgiving Yanks

>>75520370
I like calling women ma’am out of respect. Not all of them are stupid whores or vapid cunts. Some are, believe it or not, intelligent and worth treating like people. She posted something worthwhile which I found helpful. So I was polite and expressed gratitude. Idk what you’re missing here. Talk to retards like they’re stupid, talk to wise or intelligent people with respect. One gets shit on and shunned until they change the other gets thanked and encouraged to keep it up. This helps keep good posts here while helping to also limit the shitty ones. This ain’t nothing new here man. You shouldn’t be upset about that.
Suck me off to the gooche and lick the dried shit from my ass hair.


But yeah this board isn’t what it was 5 years ago, 8 years ago, 14 years ago..

>>75520459
I gave up on it a while ago because I would never match anyone but the trashiest negresses imaginable, it just made me depressed

>>75520340
You're on an anime imageboard retard

>>75520475
Yeah I didn’t really say a damn thing about “doing the right thing” you’re the only one who mentioned that. My post was all about doing what’s best for himself and letting others live rent free chasing revenge ain’t gonna help that. If telling the dudes wife somehow benefits his life and the pros far outweigh any cons then there he goes.


Allow me to give another sandwich example.
Let’s say you’re eating a sandwich and then you find out the staff all took turns cumming in it. Would you demand they make you a new one, or would you go to a new establishment? Obviously any sane person would want as little to do with those freaks as possible and just move on. Only a regard would be hellbent on making sure they all eat his cum sandwich as revenge. It’s wasted time when he could be out eating non semen filled sandwiches


Inb4 it would be perfectly reasonable to beat their skulls in with a hammer yeah no shit but this is a hypothetical in which a restaurants entire staff played icky cookie with your meal and didn’t tell you that you were the predetermined loser

>>75520644
>>75520475
The bottom line is he’s spending far too much time thinking, obsessing about this bitch. Nothing he can do will fruit true happiness for him so it’s ultimately a waste of time. He can be out growing and bettering himself meeting new women. FAGGOT

>>75520426
Didn't read. You're obviously not posting in good faith so get fucked.

>>75520478
Not that anon but I believe I can be of some help here and clarify what you’re not understanding. Sit down, sound this out one word at a time
>Literally every year since the internet was invented, you degenerate retards have complained about this fact
This site, and the internet as a whole is not a good sample which is representative of the majority. You are assuming (read: baseless asspulling) your claim based on some memes you’ve seen on tiktok/Instagram/twitter, a handful of stories you’ve read here and on Reddit (you have to go back btw) half of which are probably just overly exaggerated if not full blown larps. The vast majority, like 99% of people just get together have food hang out maybe take some pics and watch a game and then go home.
You are also attempting to post from some imaginary holier than thou stand point whilst doing nothing but bitching, crying, and seething over this delusional strawman you have presented which is by all means silly, goofy, clown like, hysterical to witness, and just plain ironic.
Hope this helps


Btw what Caste are you in?

>>75520612
Groups of people are only as good as the people they exclude. Since women in general do not exclude or shame whores or cunts you can safely assume that any woman is just as good as a whore or a cunt.
Simple as.

>>75520459
Can't confirm this. I'm a semi-chad in real life and have good looking women hit on me, but tinder is completely dry for me. I have no social media and no good photos though

>>75520650
Go back to /adv/ with this garbage

>>75520734
You’re under 20 and skinnyfat and haven’t been on this board past 7 months shut the fuck up.

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i survived. i am relieved.
today i will go for a small run near sunset

>>75520785
No seriously there is a board for you and its awful

I've figured out the only periods I was happy in my life may be because I believed I belonged to something that mattered at the time. Family, studies, job, relationship, bands, you name it. I was almost vegetarian at some time and during that I could feel the thing. Thing is, everything I believed in I would eventually lost faith in. Went several times from delusions to despair, to delusions, to despair again, etc. Somewhere along those iterations I lost what I'd call my naivety and am now suspicious of any hope in anticipation of upcoming despair. Which I have to confess I seethe in. Nothing makes sense, I distrust my judgment, I keep lifting because, I don't know, I'm too deep in. And I like to mog the people who score better than me everywhere else in life. I don't even believe in 'making it'. I don't know if I missed being naive but I sure barely cope with my own blackpills.

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>>75517327
My brother got of out prison and started shit over nothing. He's a genuine lifer waiting to happen and all i want to do is get fit enough to beat his ass until he' missing teeth. I have never felt more angry in my life and stupidly enough it's made me want to work out even harder. He'd been locked up for three years and continued to fuck up in jail and even then STILL got out early some how.

>>75520478
this board is riddled with doublethink. My favorite one is "Tell other people they're fat, when I myself are fat or I feel I am!"

>>75517327
>did i survive
Haha. I quit my job last Friday and have spent the entire past week drinking. 7 days of a handle of liquor each day. I downed to packs of cigarettes. I am also going to have to do some MAJOR cleaning. My apartment stinks and somehow I broke my dishwasher and AC control. I don't remember it even but that's the story I'm gonna be telling the management team. My lungs hurt and it's difficult to read. I spent last night shaking and sweating and have been sleeping periodically about 30 minutes each. Last night though I had to talk to ChatGPT to keep myself calm though I did get hysterical and started crying. For work, I don't even know any more. I'm thinking something like sales as I just want to make money and as much as possible with no education. I'm 29 so going back to school isn't even an option.

Pray for me I can beat the (literal) spirits that haunt me.

>>75520954
>talking to ChatGPT to vent
Try perchance.org, anon. Works better and you can import anything you need to vent to since it's compatible with websites like Chub.ai

my cousin killed herself the day before thanksgiving so thats cool I guess

>>75520812
That board is awful you’re absolutely correct. How new are you? Not being belittling in that question. That’s just nothing new. Fuck I feel like I’m talking to a mentally challenged guy here. That’s what this thread is for, genuine advice not from reddit tier social retards. Like how do you not understand this.

You sound like a teenager man. Just to help you understand why I say he should unironcially focus on himself is because I’ve been there and made the mistakes. I fucked a dudes bitch and then told him about it out of a desire of revenge towards her (she said she was single pissed me off). It’s simply not worth doing. There’s so many things that go into it that you’re not seeing which is why I think you’re young. You have no clue what the other people may be going through or how little they have to lose of how little fucks they have to give, how unhinged they are. People kill for way less.
Some potential pussy is literal bitch shit, like if you’re not a thirsty desperate faggot who can’t get laid the possibility of the dudes wife spreading her legs if you tell her shouldn’t even register to you.


You know what eliminates all of that? Improving yourself so you can replace all that was lost: a wet hole or many series of them

>>75520935
brick in a sock to the back of the neck works wonders

>>75517327
I probably had like three billion calories but it was super worth it and one of the best Thanksgivings I've ever had. I feel flabby and nasty but honestly, fuck it. Live life. Don't worry about being a bit soft in some places. It'll all be okay

>>75520935
Jesus, how does that shit happen? He's your brother, doesn't he care about his family at all?

>>75520935
>continued to fuck up in jail and even then STILL got out early some how.
Who else are they supposed to let out, the innocent well behaved guys that spend the whole time researching law for justice against the system threatening the careers of those who threw them in?

>>75520612
I call em "miss" It's way more flattering than "ma'am"

I have a shit ass nigger job but it's work from home and the pay is decent. I also have a degree. I got a job offer in my area, but it pays less and it's a lot more work. Granted, I need experience for better opportunities, but I'm kind of in the fence about lowering my life quality just like that.

>>75520622
This is /fit/ nigger not everyone on the Indonesian basket weaving board is required to like your faggot cartoons and comic books

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>>75521167
He was a drug addict that sold drugs and got pulled over / caught because he's a narcisstic retard that doesn't just sell he DOES. So he got caught pulled over. He's got three kids by two different women. We had an argument because he's on parole and i told him he doesn't need a cell phone that he will most likely contact his junky friends to get back into it with. He then chimped out and insulted me loudly and directly to the point of making me take my jacket off i was ready to knock out his fucking teeth but i had a wall of family member meat blocking me. Drug addicts can't be trusted, especially not sociopathic narcassistic disgusting pieces of shit junkies regardless of them being your brother or not.
>>75521134
I'd rather do it by hand, i was genuinely so mad that i mulched my knuckles on my deck for a good hour i couldn't even feel it i was so absolutely tism levels of fucking mad.
>>75521182
He was meant to get 6 years, he got out in three somehow on early leave. Whats worse is he definitely wasn't on good behavior because i knew someone who worked at the prison and updated me on his records. He continued to do / sell and get drugs in jail amongst other things. I genuinely don't understand.

>>75520684
>This site, and the internet as a whole is not a good sample which is representative of the majority.
It is for americunts. A bunch of degenerate lunatics and mass shooters.

how often do you turn a date into a gf really? i’ve seen 3 girls past half year for 3+ dates but none worked out. i need to dump a girl this weekend because it’s unfair to her

for example they all pushed to hang out daily. i’m really not feeling that at first, and it caused a lot of frustration. it’s like we’re never on the same page while they get super attached. also texting/calling is a thing. i think answering in 3-4 hours is acceptable, all of them made me feel like im deranged for even thinking that. sure i can adapt a little, but it kept coming up despite me being clear about it.

obviously im the common denominator here so i must be doing something wrong. i’m aware i may need more space than the average person and i try to communicate this. also i have never really felt butterflies or anything. i enjoy sex and hanging out, but i find the thought of turning it into a relationship suffocating. i hope i haven’t met the right one,

>>75521350
Junkies are horrible. I in part feel sorry for them but they have to want to change to change. I went to elementary school with half of my old circle from my mid 20s. In it were two brothers, one my age one a year younger. The younger brother became exactly like brother. Crackhead (I think crack idk) couldn’t stay out of trouble got arrested. The older brother is chad tier. Good guy, he’s that guy who everyone just wants to be friends with who’s nice to everyone. Even after we reconnected after damn near 20 years and me being an autistic we just clicked up well. That kind of charismatic guy.
So a little after he moved back we have a party and his younger brother gets out of jail. Of course he wants to bring his brother, he’s trying to be a good big bro and get him socializing and keep him from being alone and around temptation. Kid spends the entire time tapping about how hard he was because he joined a little gang and all this shit. He was built like most junkies. Later on while chilling with a different bro entirely I was vaping and just making conversation I said
>fuck man I gotta quit this shit I’m addicted to it
As I said that the junkie was walking by like 10 feet away and suddenly perks up towards me and goes
>HUH? WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY?
I ignored the faggot and continued my conversation and he realized I wasn’t talking to him and sulked off but that’s the shit I mean.


They’re just impulsive. He was ready to start fighting over misperceived slight of some sort. I think they start with impulsivity and then train it and ruin part of their brain through their drug usage. It’s sad. I feel bad for his brother, my friend. Dudes crippled these days from a boating accident, works two jobs full time and married a chick who won’t help out financially and has a junkie younger brother on top of it. That’s what’s most sad about it, what it does to the other people

>>75521350
And just to inspire some hope if there is a chance, look at steveo. If that dude could get and stay sober I think anyone can

>>75520085
>>75520085
Bump. Might KMS and or jack off to BBWs again

>>75521482
Hope you're doing k, anon. Do you want to talk?

>>75521482
If you like fat girls why can’t you get one? They are easy.

>>75521505
Not that anon, but a similar khv in early 30s and also don’t have much issue with chubby or bigger girls. For me it’s not about them being “easy”, it’s that I’m so socially retarded and pathetic that I don’t even bother talking to people because I have nothing to offer and have no self esteem. And frequently, this is the issue for most old virgins. It’s not about high standards or whatever. It’s mental illness and personality issues.

I would have no issue having some thick girl, a plapjack meme, to kiss and hug and be with. But when I’m too self conscious and self hating to even talk to anyone, it’s never gonna happen

>>75521496
Ha I’m doing fine just being a fucker. I never really wanted love in my 20s and basically spent them drinking my ass off being a depressed fat fuck. Sober now, lifting all the time and starting to get lonely as my friends all find love. Just feel like I’m totally fucked the rest of this life because of dumb shit I did earlier in life.

>>75521555
Chekt. How are the othercaspects of your life? Career, lifts in general, etc?

>>75521569
Lifting is going well, hit 130lbs 4x10 on Lat Raise today so happy about that. Could be making more money though

>>75521615
>Could be making more money though
Very much agree and in a similar sport rn. What do you?

>>75521628
Manufacturing analyst. You?

>>75521639
Was a data analyst but I quit that with nothing lined up.

>>75521639
>>75521655
>gay analysts
Analyze my dick faggots

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Why won't the thermal I want to buy go on sale this week. The MSRP is $5k, someone can at least do $4,200

>>75521657
Yeah it is gay and I hate it but the OT is nice

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thanksgiving was last month and nnn finally about to be over but my onahole is delayed with fucking canada post.
It's so over. I have nothing left to lose. I'm going to ask her out tonight

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lads i am completely fucking lost
i started dating the girl i'm with almost 2 years ago and things have been pretty good, but the past month i'm starting to wonder if i've made a mistake. i always knew she was kind of liberal and i never hid my views on anything around her, but the night trump won the election she lost her shit. she was crying about how abortions will be illegal and saying i support rape and hate women because i voted for him, etc. i almost broke up with her that week but she cried and apologized and said she was just really stressed.
she's been really good to me since, but if i'm being honest the spark is completely gone on my end. she's constantly telling me that she loves me, that she's obsessed with me, and all that girly shit but i don't feel it for her anymore but i don't know why i even feel this way. i used to love how she looked, but now when i see her i think of how she's so much shorter than me. i used to imagine raising our kids together, but now i wonder if she'll be combative about my beliefs in front of our kids.
i tried to talk to her about it, and she thought i was gonna break up with her and started crying and i pussied out and ended the convo. so i guess me being a retard doesn't help.
wat do

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>>75521460
He does that too, he explodes over small things. Genuinely handles things worst than a child and i don't get it. He's my younger brother, he's always been a prick and a know it all and our mother can't handle seeing her "baby boy" not get taken care of so i'm the bad guy for not dealing with his bullshit. He's the type who will start shit and then when it boils down he will talk as if nothing happened but still rub in how "RIGHT" he is in your face. The shit genuinely makes no fucking sense and i'll never understand it. It's enough to make your blood pressure spike because you watch everybody cope for the retard and it makes you feel like a crazy person.

>>75517482
>>75520058
i felt like this a few years ago
thought i hit rock bottom like six or seven times each time something catastrophic would happen lmao
only thing that actually helped was i refused to lie anymore about anything. even the really tiny things, no more lies at all. always tell the truth, act the truth, etc.
and i picked one thing and focused on it to try my best. whether it was cleaning room, ironing clothes, finding a job, etc. i picked it and i tried my best no matter what. and after it became habit, i'd add another thing. failures don't matter. successes don't matter. just try your best.

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>>75521801
GETTEM TIGER!

>>75521915
That sounds rough, Anon. So you found out that your girlfriend has fundamentally different world views than you, you no longer see her the same way after such a mental breakdown, and now you're worried about what that means for your kids?
Well, what you you WANT to happen?

>>75521961
That sounds immsensely painful anon. He sounds like he's really really suffering too, but there is also huge risk in having compassion for someone who is barely in control of themselves. I guess I've heard that drugs tend to be a cope for having a shitty life, and when life improves the need for drugs fade. But also, some drugs will be really hard to overcome. That fucking sucks buddy, I feel for ya.

>>75522022
>Elevates truth, including to oneself, even in times of crisis
>Found themselves able to focus on any task by being in the moment and making every task the most important thing in the present moment
>accepting that victory and even defeat are both required steps of progress

Based Bodhisattva anon

>>75521915
why do you care if she has different beliefs than you anon? "Trump is going to make abortions illegal!" is the echo chamber that the vast majority of women are in. I'm not sure how the jew mind control got that effective.

>>75522079
>why do you care if she has different beliefs than you anon?
where the fuck have you been, dumbass? everything is politicized, especially on 4chan

This is my last feels thread as a 32 year old. Next Friday, I will be a 33 year old. And I'll still be a complete and utter loser. I can't believe I went yet another year without getting the courage to end my worthless, pathetic life, or doing anything to make it any better. I have completely given up

>>75522087
Then stand up and tell her "I don't like talking about politics in a relationship" and continue on having a good gf. Or you'll find out how quickly she wants to self-sabotage.

>>75522100
but he does like talking about politics in a relationship

>>75522105
then he is retarded. Politics are a worthless game to entertain the masses with a circus. The only time you should be discussing politics is if you can profit off it. The power structures that exist are the games that only a select few of the echelon have leading roles in. The rest of us are just back up dancers for them.

>>75522040
>Well, what you you WANT to happen?
i don't know
someone to tell me how to figure out if a girl is worth marrying i guess

>>75522097
>I have completely given up
good, you are already dead.
now you can do whatever you want.

>>75520252
>I'll try again in a month. She's my muse.
Bethedig :DDD

>>75522118
its surprising that you say shit like this knowing what politics have been like for 8 years. i agree with you, but almost everything is political now. everyone thinks their candidate will fix everything when they wont do shit to help you.

>>75520252
imagine being so pathetic that youll keep coming back to her every month begging her to date you LOL

heybaby ive been thinking about you for a month please can you give me a chance now LOL how pathetic.

>>75522165
So stop playing their games and letting it affect your personal relationships with other people.

I think next time I move I'm gonna replace my mattress/bed with a cot and a sleeping bag. Fuck it. Saves space, easy to transport if needed, and the lack of a bed almost guarantees that my 5 year dryspell will end the instance I throw out my mattress.

god damn smoking a cigarette every now and then is an excellent feeling.

>arrive at thanksgiving
>family complimented on my weight loss progress
>~50 pounds since Feb from 240 to 189
>at the same time my aunt and mom keeps borderline scolding me for losing weight
>if my grandma, god bless her soul, were still around she would've chastised me too
It's amazing how much pushback I've been getting of all things. On the plus side, I hit 5x40 knuckle pushups recently from 3x40 and 5x20 before that.

>>75522227
Because sudden changes scare people, dont worry about it anon

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>>75522147
Would you have married her before this happened?
How much of yourself do you think one should concede to a relationship?
Are you open to change or do you think she should?
Do you think she may have legitimate grievances about the world, given her worldview?

>>75522097
I'm hearing that you are feeling like you're really behind in life due to your age, and you want to an hero yourself, though you have trepidation, and that also makes you more self loathing.
That sounds really heavy, Anon. Have you considered the strength to go on living, face to face with a world that seems hopeless, may actually be good?

>>75522189
So you're prepping to live more like a vagabond? Is a cot gunna give your body enough to support to not have, like, back pain after a while?

>>75522165
Bruh we're getting so fucked by all the bots trying to make us hate each other for clicks. Fuck that. And to put on my tinfoil hat, Russia/china are being assholes on a military industrial scale and I hate it. Damn 5th gen warfare assholes aren't as vulnerable to military-grade shitposting as Democracies are.

>>75521915
I remember you from last week Anon. If I can offer some unsolicited advice: Decide on what you value - the person or the opinion attached to the person. Is she someone that you could love despite being liberal? Had she not lost her shit over the election would this be happening? My girlfriend is liberal, but we both respect each other despite not sharing opinions and views. Two years of dating is pretty impressive, but I highly recommend just talking to her before you get rid of her. Try to explain things to her with a mix of facts, logic and emotion. Remember: You do not have to change her mind, you just have to make her realize that the world did not end last time Trump was elected. If you care about her, tell her. Remind her of the past two years if you think she is worth keeping.

Fuck, all I know is that if you break up with her you might regret it the rest of your life. Never hurts to talk. There is a weird, online rally cry that Trump is going to make Handmaid's Tale real and it confuses the fuck out of me personally.

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>>75517327
I dreaded it and it turned out Thanksgiving ended up a damn mess, my lesbo step-sister married her bull dyke and my Evangelical mom and cuck of step father found out the awkward way. It got worse, my girlfriend is 7 months pregnant we are going to have a boy, obviously my mom noticed and I couldn't hide it from her anymore, so lot of drama over me getting a woman pregnant without marrying her first. Regardless she is still little happy she'll get to be a grandmother. My actual father won't know since he just vanished out of my life few years ago.

Half the family voted for Kamala and half for Trump, so there was political sperging that eventually got out of hand. People left early including myself, it's generally hasn't been the same since my grandparents died anyway. Lot of drama over trivial bullshit and political tribalism.

I don't want to do these family gatherings anymore.

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>>75517327
I signed up for a suicide prevention text line and they gave me all kinds of fancy training on talking people down from suicide and helping people feel better. I'm too scared to keep doing it in the official capacity, so I randomly barge into these very feels threads and do my best to help fellow anons talk things out.
I kinda feel like a coward for letting them down, but I also think you fucking degenerate DYEL niggers need a kind ear too.

>>75520612
absolute faggot

>>75517327
Any sour beer you have on tap

I used to think I look somewhat okay like maybe a 6-7/10 but my friends, upon learning I'm single, always try to set me up with women that are really not that pretty (4'7" Asians, or plaphogs). It kinda feels insulting but makes me realize I'm actually probably more a 4-5/10 if that's what I'm getting recommended to match with by friends.

>>75522335
Gay

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>>75522404
Ya think they're reccomending plaps and shrimps because they think that's what'll fit you? It might be cuz the plaps and shrimps are what's available, usually?

>>75522328
You sound disappointed in the way the family drama played out. Sorry about the politics skreeching, everybody is real tense lately. I find it's more productive to seek first to understand, then be understood.

>>75522335
I know they train you to help suicidal people but do they give you anything to say to people who run out on their families? Asking for my brother-in-law.

in the early stages with this girl, going very well. she's kind of crazy but i love her

>>75522526
Bro don’t lower yourself like this, all mental health crap is the blind leading the blind, you don’t need platitudes and watered down philosophy from a simpleton with his life together, read philosophy yourself and become a better man.

>>75522529
I stuck my dick into a girl who is bonafide member of a cult. Would do it again even if she's a whore because she's a fun time.

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>>75522526
If there's any method of contact available, ask them what made them do it? Repeat back your best interpretation of they tell you to ensure you understand correctly. Let them vent and say things and you listen with compassion. After a few rounds of this, they may have a heavy sigh, or lowering of shoulders or maybe you can tell they've said enough of what's on their mind. Then they are more open to working with you on solutions.

Don't rush to advice, you must listen and understand their perspective first.

>>75522529
Nicely done bro! I hope you have a lot of fun and a good relationship. My next drink is a toast to ya.

had my first real breakup at 27 back in february and I'm still not really over it I guess, I thought about her and her family yesterday. maybe there was a world in which I worked on my shit so things didnt implode and I met her parents. I can see now I approached dating (and the preceding attempts at relationships) with a bad north star - sex served as this major validator for me, and the reason it held so much power was deeper self esteem issues. It was something that had to be confronted and the therapy has helped with finding other things I can be proud of that are independent of a relationship. but man I still have a lot of regret that bottling up my prior anxiety until I shut out my gf and she dumped me is what made me get here.
is that regret going to be there until I find someone else. I've been on hinge and it makes me want to kill myself after a week. I feel like a monkey tap dancing for attention in the message section of my matches. I've asked out women irl but struggled with moving things forward, I'm trying to take things 'slow' because I don't really want to just fuck them but this has just gotten me a couple 'not feeling the spark' messages. lifting can feel like a chore now if I'm being honest I picked it up because I thought it would help me get the sex I thought I needed to feel good about myself. I'm secure in my finances, career, and family life but I'm struggling in the relationship side of things, picking up the pieces of a plate that it turns out was not being held onto very well in the first place

Spent this year obsessed with a Colombian girl at my church.
Chased her to the point of harassment. Was going through psychosis for a lot of it that didn't help, though I still think I was pretty sane for chasing her so much.
Anyway, might move to Colombia for six months, idk.

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>>75522619
I can assure you the Therapy is helping, because that was a lot of insightful introspection. I still see one more thing missing: Bro, have compassion for your past self. You did your best with what you knew at the time, so the lesson may hurt, but you've grown a lot, and it's apparent in how you talk.
You seem to still be grieving the loss of your first real relationship, too. Losing joy in things you used to love, like lifting, is part of the process for a little while. I think you're gunna make it, buddy.

>>75522633
So you chased her really hard then, anon? Was it specifically her, or more her being Colombian?


>>75522545
Dude, I'm an autism robot and had to learn to manually talk to to people. Mental health shit helps make that easier, and I agree with your suggestion to read philosophy, too.

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I have a crush on a tranny and it's fucking killing me man. I just recently found out she has a bf and i have been depressed ever since. Yeah yeah ik i'm a faggot for having feelings with this thing whatever whatever but i just love her so much bro.

>>75522706
It was specifically her. I thought she was really cute, and I asked her out. She agreed, we went to lunch and shopping after, one of the happiest days of my life. I drove her to work a few times, bought her Colombian food that she wanted. I was hopeless. Then I ask if it's going further, and she tells me she has a boyfriend. I don't let it go, and keep pushing it, went to her house, used a different phone when she blocked me. Then the delusions and all that started so I've got a whole litany of messages that I'm pretty sure she's never read from when my brain was on fire. I just couldn't get over the fact that she would go to my house, sit on my bed, go to lunch and all that all while having a boyfriend. Became convinced something more must be going on, which is how all the delusions started.
Now I have a deep-seated need for her, but a different latina might replace it.
I was thinking of going to the one authentic latin restaurant in my city every Friday for dinner, either to pick up a different girl who takes my breath away, but really I'm hoping she'll show up one night with her mum.
Since it all fell apart and I wrote her a physical letter from the psych ward I haven't seen her at any church events. I kind of just want to apologise and then let it sit until something else happens. I don't know if she's still with her boyfriend, but there was this other guy who kept going to the church event with her, I know they went to a concert together. Haven't seen him or her since I got out of hospital. I miss having her as a friend, we got on pretty well and I actually felt like flirting with her more than I do almost anyone.

Just remembered that people have moles.
I think I'm gonna be sick bros.

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>>75517327
Just completely broke my arm in two different places arm wrestling. Also finals next week.

>>75517327
Well, I was going to commit suicide today but can't now because I have to house sit

>>75521437
Do you talk about you as much as you listen to them? I guess not. To me, quick answers, daily calls and pressure to meet reek of anxiety. My guess is you attract those whose anxiety you mitigate by not standing up for yourself. Which would explain the lack of connection on your side. You're right not to turn that shit into a relationship. Be more true to yourself, bro, it will weed out those who are there for themselves.

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>>75522745
Jesus, I only do that to people when they piss me off by basically demeaning the shit that happened to me in my life and they honestly deserve to be scared. Not “Oh, they rejected me, I’m gonna be obsessed with them.”

Hey guys... I fell in love with a single mother of two children, I think I'm fucked...
I've never been in love like this and I'm 36...
Also in the best shape of my life.

>>75523078
>Hey guys... I fell in love with a single mother of two children, I think I'm fucked...
Widow? How old are the kids? It's not an immediate red flag, because people die/divorces happen from cheating.

>>75523078
>Hey guys... I fell in love with a single mother of two children
At least your problem is a lot better than mine. I'm in love with a tranny here and to make it worse she already has a bf. I just wanna rope myself for getting into this situation

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>be in long term relationship
>break up
>have casual sex with a chick I met next week
You bros weren't kidding. It felt soul crushing afterwards. Yet I want to do it again.

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>>75517327
Water please.
>went into this depressive mode where I refused to do anything productive after I finished college for a month
>meditation and breathing method didn't help
>Started helping my neighbor with some labor chores
>noticed how happy I am
>started lifting again
>my day was instantly brightened

>>75523038
I was not in the right state of mind, though my state of mind was being fueled by posts on girls' pages about how they want a man to chase them to the point of crime. Part of me wants to apologise because I went too far, but part of me also doesn't want to apologise in case she gets into that mindset and starts to realise maybe I am what she wants.
Hoping whatever happens next year goes better.

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>>75517327
Ugh, I gained like five pounds on Thanksgiving from all the turkey, gravy, etc. I want to die.

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Jannies tongue my anus
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>75523580
>he actually accepts bans

>>75523178
Just remember that she cheated on you

>>75524238
Would it be a dick move to convince her cheat on her current boyfriend with me?

>>75522272
>Would you have married her before this happened?
yes
>How much of yourself do you think one should concede to a relationship?
i don't know. i think it's okay to have certain things you're unwilling to compromise on though. it worries me that she's okay with abortion, i am not. i think my fear is what if she wants an abortion if she gets pregnant. and i'm talking like abortions deep into the pregnancy because she's clearly expressed that she thinks those are perfectly valid.
>Are you open to change or do you think she should?
i don't think i can change on this.
>Do you think she may have legitimate grievances about the world, given her worldview?
probably.

>>75522745
you are a simp and she is a whore for going on a date when she has boyfriend.

>>75517327
the amount of shit sleep I've had from having a fucking window in my room is insane, blackout curtains don't work, eye mask is uncomfortable, just crazy how cucked having a hole in the wall is. can't imagine how much better off everyone in america would be if they could just sleep in a pitchblack room

>>75522061
i find it amusing that i do really enjoy reading and learning about indian/eastern philosophical traditions but never realized that i managed to actually apply it's teachings to my own life, and that it helped me completely turn my life around. and i did that all before i became interested in reading and learning about it. i can't help but smile at your post.

>>75523078
>Hey guys... I fell in love with a single mother of two children, I think I'm fucked...
Listen man, despite what you read here there isn't anything wrong with being a stepdad. It's not like you'd be raising her kids for her while she goes out and fucks other guys, and those kids could use a strong male figure in their lives. Get the details, obviously be wary of any other potential red flags and use your best judgment, but if there is love between you two then you can at least give it a try.

>>75523078
If your a late bloomer don't jump the gun on this and those kids will never be yours I know some single moms can be hot but you probably can do better, I'd personally go for younger women at your age there are still single moms in their 20s but lot less than the 30s+ range. Go for like 25 year olds.

I live in a dead end European shithole place of 1500 people. Every day is the same: sleep,ear,work,stay in between the same four walls until I sleep again, I even lift at home. I want to leave , I want to start over but I don't even know where

>>75523078
>I've never been in love like this and I'm 36...
youre 36 years old, still single, still posting on 4chan. and yet, you have the audacity to have standards. lol.

>>75523078
That’s sweet. Just don’t be one of those pedos that target single mothers with kids for OTHER reasons.

>>75524409
guy is probably mind poisoned by 4chan considering hes 36 and still posting on here, where he thinks being a stepdad means hes a cuckold.

>>75517327
I don't know how to get a job. I've graduated since June, and have been hitting the gym ever since before trying to get a job. I wanted to be in good shape physically and mentally before I commit to the life of wageslavery for a very long time. Now soon I must begin looking for one . In the meantime I will keep on exercising. At least I have that going for me.

braising a breast of lamb in the oven
anyone want some?

>>75524413
Being a stepdad is being a cuckold unless you are a divorcee with kids yourself, that is the only time it is acceptable and not humiliating.

>>75524517
You would consider George Washington a cuck?

>>75524571
Yea, federalist cunt too go figure

>>75524517
It's unacceptable for a man to want to be a positive role model for the children of a woman he loves? You are aware not all single mothers are the result of bad choices on the mom's part, right?

>>75524588
>yes goy, raise Tyrone and Jamal's kids for them, be the dad who stepped up

>>75524588
>You are aware not all single mothers are the result of bad choices on the mom's part, right?
What’s your point? It’s still a low smv humiliation ritual to get with them no matter how genuine a sympathetic victim they are. Unless you are also making her a stepmom there is no excuse.

>>75524599
>le goy black man buzzword spewer

>>75524588
No, 4chan is corrupted and they think everything is porn/gooning related

>>75524588
>You are aware not all single mothers are the result of bad choices on the mom's part, right?
lmao, name one time this isnt the case

>>75524690
husband cheats on wife, wife gets divorced and has custody of kids
husband dies

wow that was hard

>>75524683
>it’s not cuckoldry if I don’t get off to it, check mate conservatives

>>75524705
>my deepest desire is to get cucked or my gf of 10 years cheated on me so i keep calling everyone else a cuck because who the fuck talks about cuckoldry this much

>>75524615
>there is no excuse
So if a man without kids falls in love with a woman who is single and has kids, he should just...what, ignore his feelings and remind himself that he has a biological/sociological responsibility to "do better", because people on the internet might call him a cuck? Those kids should be left without a father figure unless their mom gets lucky and finds a single dad? Is that your logic? To eschew love and affection for the sake of ones SMV?

>>75524720
>maybe the real snowflakes are the people who think it is stupid to put trigger warnings on Shakespeare plays, check mate conservatives

>>75524721
yes thats what the 4chan incels think. a woman having children is an absolute deal-breaker. the ironic thing though is that they also recognize how horrible not having a father figure is for children, how terribly children raised by single mothers end up, but then think that any man who would actually be a father figure to them is a cuckold for doing so.

>>75524721
First off
>love
No. People should do whatever they want, fact of the matter is getting with used goods is cuck shit. Even in a hypothetical scenario where all women are used goods it’s still cuck shit, cuckoldry isn’t relative. Anything less than a virgin is a humiliation ritual, a woman with kids is pretty much the worst you can do.

It's crazy how different women react once you get to a decent level of attractiveness. Constantly catching women staring at you will never get old.
Keep working on yourselves boys. It's worth it.

>>75524721
>its okay to date a former cock carousel and raise her seven kids, because I love her!
imagine actually defending cucks

>>75524738
women arent "constantly" looking at you, retard. you just got more arrogant and think that if a woman looks in your general direction shes staring at you and lusting after you.

>>75524725
>maybe you really are just retarded and don’t understand where someone is on the political spectrum like a gigaautist

>>75524749
>he thinks he gets to choose where he is on the political spectrum
Nice try tranny but you can’t choose your gender either

>>75524736
>getting with used goods is cuck shit
You must be popular with women

>>75524805
>you don’t debase yourself and submit to humiliation? You must be fun at parties!
Get new material

>>75524736
>humiliation ritual
You keep using this term like relationships are transactional, like whoever you end up with is only meant to improve your social standing and that love is irrelevant. Do you genuinely believe women lose all value if they have had sex in the past?

oh look another thread ruined by faggots obsessing about useless shit. thankfully theres the hide post button that collapses all these shitposts.

>>75524772
>he thinks I didn’t already choose and that I know where I am at politically wise

Your reach is 5 times around the world now.

>>75525022
>also saying I’m a tranny because I disagree with him

Your autism is showing

>>75517327
I believe I finally found how to articulate what’s been bothering me if anyone can offer advice.


I’m not as productive as I want and I drag my feet. I do the things but I’m slow to start and slow to finish. I procrastinate. And I believe the reason is lacking in passion. It’s not discipline, I do the things and get them done. But I’m not really excited to do them. I have a rough vision and goals but I feel because it’s a 5 year thing and the pay off isn’t that immediate it’s causing me to not be as passionate, plus not to mention idk what all is there. As I said it’s rough and not fully formed. Idk what I want exactly. In 5 years I’ll have new skills a better body a better paying job and my own place, able to get pussy and date and have some freedom and comfort. But that doesn’t really do it for me.


10 years ago I was a total virgin and simply by lying to myself and allowing myself to become delusional and believe “if I do X thing I WILL get pussy” I was the most productive I’ve ever been. I went from probably gonna fail highschool to graduating with straight As, losing over 100lbs in 12 months, saving enough money to buy a used car, etc. I Just acted and did the things because I genuinely believed I would just get laid if I did it.
Sex is great but doesn’t excite me like that anymore. I know there’s more and better and more fulfilling things in life but idk what they are.


It’s that core passion that I’m lacking. I could do so much more work so much harder beyond the bare minimum that is just discipline. It’s like I’m missing something. Can anyone help?
And yeah, I do believe it goes beyond basic discipline. Discipline = doing the thing. Passion = DOING the thing and loving doing it, being eager about it all every step even the small bullshit in between because you know where it leads. I feel I’m working towards nothingness.

>>75517327
I have something to confess

>be American me
>married to girl from china that I met in collage
>her distant family member comes to study at a local collage near me
>my wife and I invite her out a few times
>we have a couple good conversations
>we like similar music and both play guitar
>now she messages me everyday
>she’s extremely pretty, told me she has a thing for older guys (I’m 10 years older than her)

I really wanted to bang her at first, but now guilt is way too much. She’s inviting me to go out and stuff. I feel like it’s all really inappropriate and I started it.

I thought I wanted a mistress, but I think I’m just super bored. I go through phases of finding my wife super attractive or not. Sometimes I become obsessed with other women in my life, and I let them keep flirting with me and texting me. I’ve never followed through with it however.

Has anyone here ever cheated on their spouse with someone from their spouse’s family?

>>75525067
>4chan incel computer nerd marries some ugly chinese immigrant bug woman

>>75525077
>you should settle for mud sharks, like me!!!
I don’t fuck nigger fuckers

>>75524902
Nta but I want to interject on two things
>humiliation ritual using this term
It’s a fucking cringe term. It used to mean quite literally a humiliation ritual like an actor having to play a role where he gets ass raped while his wife who’s an actress takes a role where she gets raped in an entirely different movie at the same time (Tom Holland & Zendaya dating going against hollywood wanting them to date who they chose). Or a rapper having to make appearances in a dress because he didn’t push a certain agenda. Now these retards use it just where they mean to say “it’s embarrassing”.
>relationship transactional
The simple fact is they are. Life isn’t a Disney movie. It’s no longer the 50s where people are genuine.
And the simple fact is if a man works hard and achieves something for himself builds a life to be proud of then he gets to be entitled and choosy when it comes to who he shares that with. That’s the trade off, women get to be picky and choosy who they let have access to their bodies. If woman A chose to give it up to 15 dudes during her 20s then she’s a genuinely stupid bitch to think for a second she’s entitled to a guy taking home six figs who looks good who knows he can go find a 25 year old with maybe 3 bodies max. I don’t say virgin because it’s just unrealistic. Women lose value the more men they sleep with and get attached to.

>>75525108
>4chan incel computer nerd who marries some ugly chinese immigrant bug who he doesn't even love but was likely the first girl who ever gave him attention (using him in order to get her green card) who constantly thinks about getting a mistress and being an adulterer, even with her own family member, has the audacity to act holier than thou about the type of woman people have sex with
fucking lol

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I could be fucking a woman RIGHT NOW, the city is full of horny drunk women and I'm at home post-wank waiting to eat my pre sleep eggs. There were two tiny south east asian women with monkey type phrenology but one was kind of cute shadowing me in the gym today, plus one big bunda brazilian with her emo white bf, plus a few spin class yoga bunnies in the stretching area. I almost lost focus in there the aroma was so thick it stuck to the fake grass floor, a room heated by the furnaces of 50 sexually promiscuous western womens pussies for like an hour in those stupid fucken classes. I could fuck them all, I'm muscular and facially gifted, but here I am dick in hand hitting my macros.

>>75525133
Asian women love white men don't lie. They also come into the country legally because they aren't criminals.

>>75525066
You already answered your own question. You're not lacking in passion. You're lacking in vision. ANYONE can say "I want to get strong!" or "I want to make money!", but broad-scope statements like that don't ignite any kind of passion or interest because they don't provide any kind of framework or suggestion on how to get there, it's literally just a vague end goal. You have to ask yourself what it is you want, what SPECIFICALLY you want, and go from there. That is what you did during your "delusional" phase - you had a goal and you defined concrete steps to get there.

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>>75525133
Imagine thinking women who dress like this are even subjectively better looking than an average Asian girl. Enjoy your sloppy nigger seconds and your child being turned into a fag.

I’d rather fucking die than fuck another girl in Kamala harris pants.

>>75517327
Bros my best friend's mom is dying at 85 and my faggot friend made a mess in the hospital fighting with doctors and shit about the dosages of the antibiotics his mom have to take and he changed 3 fucking hospitals and he is calling me non-stop to tell me what is going on and the fights he did while screaming stuff about God and quoting the bible. He will fucking call me 3 times a day. I gave him a ride to the hospital and helped his mother go inside the house with the wheelchair cause he doesn't life. I understand he is having a mania phase but what the fuck do i do? This shit is stressfull as fuck i just wanna chill the f out

>>75524902
Of course women lose value after sex. Would you rather put your dick in a sex doll that was right out the box or a used but good like new sex doll? Don’t try and dodge the question now, the point it illustrates is clear, whatever point you want to make about the value a used woman might have over an unused woman is moot because ceteris it’s preferable that a girl is a virgin. This is before even considering you’re risking divorce more for every partner a girl has before you and it is just plain risky to get involved with a used woman and have her steal all your stuff. You’re just some dumb cuck left winger who knows everything is wrong with the world and that you’re responsible and you want to pretend nothing is wrong.
>>75525022
>>75525027
You are a tranny as much as you aren’t a leftist cuck, you don’t get decide you are something that you aren’t, you are defined externally by your beliefs the same way a tranny is defined as a man by something external to their beliefs.
>>75525115
Nothing cringe about it, anyone complaining about the proliferation of the term is on the same level as lefties getting mad at the proliferation of the word cuck and bitching that we were using it wrong, or the reaction to goyslop with the denial and then bargaining.

Just finished doing a breast of lamb. Came out decent but needed to cook low and slower. Meat still clung to the bone too much even after two hours. Got enough food in my stomach, going to a concert at 9pm-2am tonight. Still need to figure out what I am drinking beforehand.

I genuinely worry that I don't know how to properly love. This may sound edgy but I have no other way to put it. Like I care about my friends and family but I can't imagine what it's like to have a wife. I've only had one gf in my life and we were friends before we started dating. Because we had that background our relationship didn't change too much from when we were friends but now we sleep with each other. Even in that relationship I never said "I love you", because I had no clue if I did.

>>75525218
>Would you rather put your dick in a sex doll that was right out the box or a used but good like new sex doll?
If no one told you, would you be able to tell the difference? I mean, it's not like you'd be going at it with another dudes jizz seeping out of the pussy, you know?
>Don’t try and dodge the question now,
Wasn't planning on it but go ahead and turn me into a strawman, I suppose.
>the point it illustrates is clear, whatever point you want to make about the value a used woman might have over an unused woman is moot because ceteris it’s preferable that a girl is a virgin.
For what reason? I mean, if a girl has an absurdly high body count and acts like a slut then sure, go ahead and steer clear of that mess, but if a girl has only had one or two sexual partners in her life, how does that immediately invalidate her as a romantic option? Adults have sex, dude. That doesn't mean that it defines their personality or their ability to be a loving and devoted partner.
>This is before even considering you’re risking divorce more for every partner a girl has before you and it is just plain risky to get involved with a used woman and have her steal all your stuff.
And this is straight up delusional. Do you genuinely assume a woman's sexual history has any bearing on her faithfulness or ability to commit to a relationship?
>You’re just some dumb cuck left winger who knows everything is wrong with the world and that you’re responsible and you want to pretend nothing is wrong.
Ad hominem? Really? What, are you running out of arguments?

>>75525218
Kek it sounds like you want to date virgins because you dont want them to know guys that are better than you exist

Leftists really had to ruin the thread with their cuck shit.

>>75525346
Yeah, this board has really gone to shit. I miss when we all understood that modern women are fucking trash

>>75524746
>t. ugly incel who has never experienced this feeling

>>75525361
The incels wanting a chaste pure women is the same level of cringe as the Christian fakers who jerk off to anime porn while being buttcoin billionaires

>>75525375
>t. Trannie

>>75525314
>If no one told you, would you be able to tell the difference?
The guy who coined the term ignorance is bliss was trying to illustrate that ignorance is not bliss, little did he know everyone would be ignorant of that.
>how does that immediately invalidate her as a romantic option?
I didn’t say it it did that is not my argument, that would be a subjective argument and I am talking about the objective. Ceteris paribus a virgin is always preferable. Anything less is humiliation, and for that reason to a degree cuckoldry. Idk why I have to argue that raising another man’s kids is cucked to you, that’s literally what a cuckoo bird does.
>That doesn't mean that it defines their personality or their ability to be a loving and devoted partner.
>And this is straight up delusional. Do you genuinely assume a woman's sexual history has any bearing on her faithfulness or ability to commit to a relationship?
Someone post the graph
>ad hominem
Calling you a retard is not an ad hominem you retard, just because people call you a retard all the time doesn’t mean it invalidates their arguments.

>>75525327
Cope

>>75525346
no, the thread was ruined because some retards couldnt let an innocuous post go without melting down

>>75525391
I got an average sized dick that I use to fuck brown sea monkeys

God I'm so sick of Thanksgiving. My family does it for 5-6 days. All you do is sit around and eat around someone else's schedule. Can't eat my typical clean meals, can barely escape and go to the gym. Outside of that it's just eat, drink, and sit around.

Next year I'm skipping it with my family or at most visiting for 2 days. I'd rather train, hike, do whatever I want. Need to find a ltr.

>>75521915
Dump her, dude, or else you’re gonna be case #53392 of a father being divorce raped and his crazy wife cutting his son’s balls off to be a tranny for attention.

Anyone telling you politics don’t matter is retarded. It’s one thing if you’re a race realist/NatSoc and she’s a conservitard, but with her being a liberal your relationship is a ticking time bomb. She’ll ruin you if you don’t get out.

>>75525066
>>75525148
Very good posts. Thank you both for making these as it describes a lot with my own life.

>>75525397
KEK hows holding out for pure virgin pussy working out for you?

>>75525413
If she is genuinely open to changing for him he could convince her why she is wrong. All I see is a guy lacking the confidence in his own beliefs needed to explain them.

>>75525441
Better than someone not even trying

>>75525406
>autistic gymcel hates being around family for a few days and wants to go a gym alone rather than be with family
die alone faggot.

>>75525393
Notice how the leftist cuck stopped responding to you despite having such "strong" opinions. Must have run off after being called a retard, like the retard he is. Sad! But you are based, redpilled, and gonna make it, anon.

>>75525481
Yooooo
Wyd
Sorry I been really busy & stressed out w work lately
How u been

>>75525148
Thank you, that’s what I was trying to say. I have no vision. It literally is a vague end goal I’m working towards. Idk what I want. When I was a horny 17-20 year old if was so easy to have getting laid as my vision. That was enough to work harder than I ever have.
Idk if maybe I’m still depressed but I can’t find anything that excites me. I feel as though I’m just working towards making life as tolerable as one can. Which is a depressing idea.

I’ve made lists of the shit I want but the most non superficial thing is
>Have my own place be healthy look good
The rest is just random bullshit like know how to play bass rebuild an old car etc.
Which is cool shit but none of it gets my soul hard. I don’t even find it motivating to fantasize about making it and having exes or people I’ve had falling out with seethe and beg for me back that just sounds dumb and lame to me.

I’m realizing I’m always gonna have to have a next thing. I get my own place? Cool now I have to find the next thing asap to sustain the fire. Get that car and spend two years rebuilding it making it run make it look nice? Cool now I gotta find the next thing and so on and so on and so on. . . which is fine if that’s how it is. But, I can’t find anything to relaly chase. I feel I’m just working towards basic bare minimum shit to make life tolerable.

>>75525218
Using cuck is actually accurate though. Humiliation ritual is zoomer vernacular evolution

>>75523078
Just do it, dude. Incels on /fit/ are going to call you a cuck but what the fuck does it matter if you're happy?

>>75517327
A goth qt 3.14 aproached me in school and asked for my Instagram

Had my first kiss with her

Deleated my account on incels.is

Life is good

>>75520954
>I'm thinking something like sales
You still need to be able to process your emotions quietly to actually be good at that, by the way. You don't want to be the loud coworker.

>>75525650
Well I did quiet quit. I didn't have any kind of freak out at work. This had been coming for some time. If I'm being honest, it's the only thing I can think of that can make the money I was with no education. Am I wrong in that aspect?

>>75525616
proud of you anon

>>75521437
You may have developed an avoidant attachment style, and if you have, this is going to be a recurring pattern until you deal with it.

>>75525693
To be really good at sales, you need to be able to convince another person that what you have to offer is what they need, and then you also need to win the money game if you're selling the same thing as somebody else while still somehow keeping your employer profitable. You don't necessarily need a lot of education, but it's really hard to sell something you truly know nothing about to somebody whose problems you don't understand.

>get tinder
>go on over 20 dates with different women over the past month
>waste time, money and energy babysitting grown retards
>hate women more than ever
>realize I could have just went to fuck whores and I would be emptying my balls literally every day of the week for less time, money and energy.
>plus my mood wouldn't be constantly sour
What the fuck do I do? I just wanted a girlfriend but I can't deal with femtards any more.

I'll have a shot of Bailey's.

Thanksgiving was... okay, I think? 1 aunt came over. Other aunt acts like she's too good to be seen with my mom even though she (the aunt, not my mom) is a raging alcoholic with a hunchback now, clearly the worst of the 3 sisters by a wide margin. Redeemed a free trial for Peacock so I could watch the parade in my room without having to fight over the TV with my immediate family who I still can't stand. They're still up my ass because I decided I wanted to become a better person while they're all still hell bent on treating me the way they have for years and expecting me to act the same as well. Food was alright but I ate way too much, but to compensate I didn't eat anything Friday. Black Friday was good to me. Girlfriend bought me a fitbit because she knows I'm taking the gym more seriously which was nice of her but I don't really know how to use it. I kind of don't want to but I don't want to be rude either so I'll try it out for a few days at least. Got a new fan for my stuffy room, got some gifts for some closer friends, and ordered a bunch of new PC parts earlier in the week and almost all of it showed up before Thanksgiving. Just waiting on my case and graphics card to show up and I'll be in business. After going abck and forth about it for the whole year, I'm finally upgrading my whole build all at once for the first time since 2015 which is exciting. My gf also got me "The Art of Rhetoric" by Aristotle which I thought was funny. It's always the philosopher wannabes who end up on 4chan at some point and she picked it out on a whim.

Overall not bad, but not amazing. I'm beginning to notice a pattern where I'm enjoying a lot more things by much greater margins when I remove my family from the mix. It makes me kind of sad and makes me feel a bit of melancholy, but its done wonders for my mental health so I'll just put my head down and press forward. Everything is always an arena with them and I'm finished fighting over nothing.

>>75525756
>What the fuck do I do?
go to whole foods and pretend to be lost

>>75525746
>know nothing about
That can be an issue going to anything whether it's car sales or door to door steak knife sales.
>problems you don't understand
It seems straightforward asking questions in terms of what they need, but again, that might be very much oversimplifying it.

I really need bad things to happen to certain people otherwise I might go insane.

my job pays like shit. it's not in my area, I have no experience in my area, it's just something temporary and there's no projection, so I need to find something else. and I just might have. but damn I love this job. I could stay here forever if I didn't have ambitions with my wife and to make a family and shit. it's kind of bittersweet, I haven't been two months here and it's been my favorite job ever, but the pay just doesn't cut it.

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>>75517327
>30
>excluded from dating apps
>no women at work
>no group hobby interest
>even if I join a hobby club and it's all old ladies or a fat chick, it also feels stupid to join then leave or stay depending on weather there's an attractive chick
>can only go to bars or approach women in the store
>no friends so just stand around in the corner
>introverted, no social skills, don't know how to talk to women, rather not pretend to be outgoing and extroverted to win a girl over at the club. can I just be myself and get a girl like what the fuck.
> apply to 1000+job over the last year
>get 1 phone call a week for some gutter shit job, they don't call back

why the fuck is life so hard? feels like I'm living life on satan rape inferno impossible mode, I literally can't win. I can't do the whole cold approach shit, I'm not extroverted, I could do dating apps if they just fucking worked, why is life like this?

>wife is on her period
>2 end tables arrived at house today
>she has declared that she will build both, tonight
>i offer to do them instead
>"why? because only a MAN can build furniture?"
>it's hour 3, she's flying at the tables with manic intensity
>i'm upstairs with the dog, drinking st arnold's christmas ale and about to watch the Texas game
>i just pad down to the kitchen every 45 minutes or so and say "looks great, honey"

>>75517689
Almost had to do this with my mother because of her alcoholism.

>>75518219
Don’t get involved.

>>75525756
i think your problem is that you were looking for a girlfriend instead of treating your dates like whores and fucking them

>>75520085
My loose skin went away after 2 years.

>>75525756
the problem is you, faggot. but you're too narcissistic to figure that out.

Watched the mst3k Turkey day marathon together with some bros on /tv/, it was fun.

About to go to a concert. Pregaming in the parking garage outside right now. Vodka red bull and then some vitamin water to deal with the piss demons

>>75520584
>that it gets easier as they get older.
Yes, in about two more years. You're literally at the hardest stage.

>>75524731
You'll always be "the father figure" and not the father, the child will always have that against you no matter what. It's not wrong to point out how difficult that'll make your life and how it'll negatively affect your ability to raise that child, especially if the father is still present in their life

>>75526434
Who the fuck cares? If you’re more of a father than the actual father, they’ll come to.

>>75526331
Really? Fuck dude, I hope you're right because I genuinely need it. I love my kids, don't get me wrong, but it's been difficult (especially since everyone we know has been utter faggots about it, saying insipid shit like "haha two under two am I right", like they're being so fucking clever pointing out that having our kids so close together makes it harder).

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I hit lmao2pl8 bench for the first time today. Now I just need my deadlift to grow some more and I’ll have hit 1/2/3/4 (currently 350x5x1).

>>75523078
interview everyone who knows her

>>75520954
Why did you quit your job?

>>75521465
Steve-o’s dad is a loaded corporate nigger for pepsi. Steve-o is a psyop with a baby rape tattoo on his body.

Any bros here have 0 desire to start a relationship? I had a nice thing going with a sweet girl but when time came to escalate to a serious relationship I got repulsed and had to end it. There really wasn't any red flag to her, just a sweet girl who fell in love with me hard. I do find her attractive but also the though of fucking other hotter women does pop up a lot. I am also quite avoidant in my attachment style which doesn't help. But I get the feeling very rarely a late 20s /fit/ independant guy would benefit from a serious relationship.

>>75520954
>I'm 29 so going back to school isn't even an option.
Bud I had friends start school at 32. You're not too old at all. 18 year old kids do not know anything and will have a quick change of heart once they hit your age too.

>>75526621
anyone on 4chan who doesnt get into a serious relationship is doing the women a favor

>>75526638
I agree, she does deserve a sweet guy who will love her unconditionally who doesn't browse the internet 4hrs a day. I would eventually ruin her

>>75526581
>had to forge reports for our database. at first because i was forced to, then because it literally had o be done to work
>company had a good ole boy mindset
>it was lies on top of lies and sketchy shit on top of sketchy shit
>in true blue collar fashion: a bunch of retards continues to fuck up and when the chickens came home to roost, they all bailed
>new management was brought in and they were all 3 of them incompetent retards who had no idea how our software worked
>original sales guy was a stinky drunk (yes ironic given my post) who somehow NEVER increased priced for 8 years.
>we were actively losing money and so the solution was for me and another guy to create a calculator for service, i was to input the data of devices we serviced, we would then update those prices, and never tell the client unless they called us out
>original sales guy got fired because the other 3 in management didn't like him. that's it
>they didn't have him secure new contracts or even write down things we should know. just expected me and the new sales guy to know everything
>new sales guy is itching to get out and make money. they have him doing bitch work instead.
>sure enough, because he wasn't active with our main clients, old sales guy found a new company and took big name, big money accounts
>most of our technicians left for that place
>even our new sales guy devices to go over
>management freaks the fuck out and is k with me taking over the bitch work. i agree only if i get a raise
>was told by 2 of the cock suckers it would happen. it did not
>so now i'm over worked but still making decent money at around $75k but the thing that drives me the most insane are the shrieking harpies that nag, bitch, and whine and not 1 manager has a pimp hand
>eventually after a month of this i snap and demand a sit down. they list off all the things they'll do (lies)
>3 weeks later when i realize it's not gonna happen i get my shit and just go
>i wish i would have deleted my work before

>>75526581
>>75526648
TL;DR: It was about a year of rising tensions that were discussed openly and never changed. I'd put, money on it old sales guy will drain them of their biggest clients, the retard managers won't be able to manage the database or calculator, and I could see them being sold by the end of 2025. Goddamn shame because it could have been fixed in like 3 months if they gave a shit.

>>75526495
Yes, I have experience with my friend's kid since he was two and a half. He was a little bullet up untill about 3.5-4, then they become smarter. Then it's the fun part of bringing a child up.
Good luck to you, don't forget about your health and proper rest.

>>75526621
yeah i stopped caring about socializing after the pandemic. i chit chat and "socializing" with people 40 hours a week at work the last thing i want to do when i get home is "socialize". i mean posting here is comfy, but like going out and "doing something" is just a chore.

>>75526483
You'll never be able to be more of a father than the literal actual blood related father.

>>75526700
>>75520969
Hope you're ok, anon-fren.

>>75526703
If you believe that, you’re a pessimist.

>>75520969
damn how did she do it>?

>>75526703
Lmao, as someone adopted that is a lie. My adopted father is my only father. Not the one who knocked up my biological mother and ran off.

>>75526771
bro why are you humoring these retards

>>75526771
And look at you now

>>75526719
I don't have to believe that, the blood relation you have to your actual parents is real and irreplaceable.
>>75526771
So your only point of reference is the pretend family you live in. You owe your literal life to your biological father

>>75526862
let me guess your wife left and took the kids cuz you are an insufferable douchebag and this is how you cope huh

>>75526868
I can be whatever strawman you need to construct to make yourself feel better about your life

>>75523078
I’m starting to think single mothers might be the way to go for me. I have absolutely fucked genes (autism, ADHD, massive anxiety) and I don’t want to pass them on to anyone, let alone my own kin. And if the kids already exist you’re not rolling the dice on getting stuck with a tard forever.

>>75526621
Yep, but my mental health is fucked right now. I don’t get pleasure out of anything, but I’m not really depressed either. It’s been diagnosed as trauma so I’m going to try EMDR therapy. I don’t want to burden a girl with it. Then again, it’s not like I could even attract a girl or enjoy being with one. Cyndi Lauper is right about women.

>>75526885
Funny how literal children think they're fit to grow children themselves

>>75526862
>You owe your literal life to your biological father
NTA but my dad spent the entirety of his life in prison because he tried to intentionally smother me to death when I was a baby, so like...I'm pretty sure my biological father doesn't really count as a "father" in any sense other than the fact that he knocked up my mom.

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I wonder if I’m better off forgoing muscle and just lean max as a woman to this physique.

>currently drunk at bowling with family and my terrible sister keeps calling me a man for my muscles.

>>75526915
And yet he literally created you and imprinted himself onto you in a pretty significant way. Youre just proving my point, single mother kids almost always come with insane baggage and childhood trauma and their adoptive fathers will have to spend their entire lives trying to navigate around that. Just because you "turned out good" doesn't mean your father's work wasn't infinity times more difficult than if you were his actual child.

Convincing anons to raise another mans children
>how it started
>>75526771
>how it’s going
>>75526893

>>75526987
>yeah your biodad tried to literally kill you but he's still way more important than whatever cuck decided to try and be your stepdad so who's the real father worthy of respect?

>>75525476
this

these autistic faggots are so ungrateful its so fucking cringe

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>>75526099
>i just pad down to the kitchen every 45 minutes or so and say "looks great, honey"

>>75527060
>the chad infanticidal intent vs the virgin stepping up to the plate

>>75523078
The only piece of information you have given us is "two children, no longer with their father".
That in and of itself isn't necessarily bad. Being a stepdad is fine if you get along with the kids, no different from adopting.
Literally, what you're describing could be anything between "She's the town bicycle and these two were because she was too retarded to notice she was knocked up again before my state's deadline to abort" and "she's an amazing 10/10 who is 100% compatible with me and wants a good family but the father tragically died of a heart attack".

>>75527129
Yeah nah, it’s just cucked

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I am going mad, absolutely insane.
I'm going to kill myself if she doesn't come back by the end of the year. That's my time limit, always has been, always will be. I have nothing else, and nothing else matters to me

>>75527146
That’s dumb, you should kill her

>>75527153
Why would I do that? I love her

>>75526962
you should do whatever makes you happy, would lean maxing make you happy or do you enjoy putting on muscle?

Girl bummed a cigarette from me we flirted she got my number and then ignored me rest of the night

>>75526962
Maybe stop doing only lower body exercises all day everyday? I'm a guy doing 1/2/2/3 and I look slim as fuck at 1.85m and 87kg. My quads are big but my waist is tight, my shoulders got wide from OHP so I literally look like the statue of a greek god, there's nothing to say you can't look like that as a chick.

Think I'm going for gold in the Patheticlympics.
I found a package at my door today, left by Amazon. I didn't remember buying anything off Amazon, for just a second my hopes ignited that the young lady I harassed came around on me and bought me a present.
I had in fact bought something myself.

>>75527197
>>75527523

Sobered up. I like putting on muscle. I’m just at the awkward stage of correcting left and right differences in my body due to childhood injuries. I love the new feats of strength I can do now vs before. I was always forbidden from sports as a kid because stupid cultural norms and my messed up parents needing to control one kid.

I just got to keep going. She just wants to be my number 1 hater after I stopped being that to myself.

New day!

>>75527959
Post physique

I can't face my family. It feels like the temperature of the room drops whenever I enter. All chit chat stops. I am an unforgivable existence.