Doesn't GLP1 prove obesity is a hormonal imbalance issue, not a "willpower" issue?
How? That doesn't make any sense.
>>76820023it doesn't surplus you're apple tight, you eat the same amount and still loose wait
>>76820021Hormones affect the brain but your inability to act in spite of them is a willpower issue>>76820038You eat less, GLP-1a doesn't increase calorie expenditure
>>76820055>>76820023Different people have different hormone levels, and research shows willpower isn't something you can "train" to expand very effectively. If one person only has relatively slight cravings and another person has constant more intense cravings, the second person will be much fatter on average. Even if they both have the same amount of willpower. The first guy just doesn't have to use his nearly as much.
>>76820055>>76820023fat people and regular people have roughly the same willpower. It's just what eats into that willpower pool. Fat people have something wrong with them that inhibiting appetite eats into that willpower pool and makes them less happy. Skinny people will have something else that does the same. For example a skinny introvert at a party. Or a skinny person doing homework.
>>76820065>research shows willpower isn't something you can "train" to expand very effectivelyhere's some gold, kind redditor>>76820066there is a genetic component like everything but if you can't overcome it that is a willpower issuemost people aren't genetically predisposed to do the things they enjoy or are good at, they just put in the grit and work to do it anyways
>>76820055they have effects independent of calorieshttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36695055/>>76820021its not math you cant really prove most things in medicine. we run experiments that either support falsification or fail to falsify a certain hypothesis
>>76820090>independent of caloriesindependent of calorie intake i shouldve said
>>76820038exactly my thoughts
>>76820073Explain this then fatass. Why do most people suck at academics and get deadend jobs? Why are they mentally drained just by doing homework instead of playing sports?
>>76820038>you eat the same amount You don't. People taking them feel full after a few bites. That's how you lose weight -- it tricks your brain into feeling full with far less food. It's still CICO.>>76820065You can take steps to reduce cravings. Fruit, veggies, and water fill your stomach without many calories. Fat & protein are satiating and should be included in every meal. Substances such as alcohol, weed, and SSRIs make you hungry as fuck. Caffeine reduces appetite. Normal amounts of cardio reduces appetite. Getting enough sleep keeps hunger hormones at normal levels. Etc.
>>76820021Nothing is a willpower issue if you dig deep enough because there is no free will. It's god-of-the-gaps. The more we learn about the body, the more engineered interventions, the less responsible we judge someone morally for erring. Every single bad thing someone does is potentially an engineering problem waiting to be solved.
>>76820021No.
>>76820021Yes and no. Some people have the willpower to overcome their hormonal imbalances, as evident by the fact people have lost weight naturally. Most people can't however, so it makes sense to supplement the missing hormones the way you'd take testosterone replacement as you age.
>>76820021no I eat like a complete lardass i should be like 300 pounds but i am 195 shredded why? cause i workout.
>>76820021yes
>>76820090if you happened to read the study you posted, you'll see that it says there was no significant difference in energy balance between the placebo and GLP-1a groups (table 3)that is, the GLP-1a group literally just ate less>>76820120oh but they still do those things don't they? so much for "muh willpower is weak"
>>76820375>but they still do those things don't they?I would argue that they in fact do not, I would even say that it is self evident they do not and someone who does is in one of the smallest rarest minorities on this planet.
>>76820375you literally didnt read it. calories were similar in both groups outcomes were different
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>>76820038>Niggers using text to speech
>>76820021yes.
>>76820398look at table 3 you retard, energy INTAKE (calories eaten) was lower in the GLP-1a group>>76820391if they didn't then the world would grind to a halt genius
>>76820134Well gosh that all sounds really hard, I think I'd rather just be a big pharma paypig for life instead
>>76820021probably just that a childhood/lifetime of bad eating habits is hard to break for some people. I did some natty cuts and the hunger is the worst part of it, being on tirzepatide made it deeply uncomfortable to overeat, imagine a free-roaming dog getting put on a 20' chain and hitting that hard "stop".
>>76820021You train your body through bad habits The drugs drop the cravings from the bad habits
Most people are too stupid to understand the deep physiological processes of regulating hunger. Its not worth discussing because idiots will never learn
>>76820021It literally prove CICO right
>>76820021YesSpecifically is a PFAS groundwater pollution ecological disaster.Every time you say some weird shit about “fat people” nestle deposits $0.02 into your account
>>76820888post bmi
