Literally every single study on this>No noticeable difference >No noticeable difference >No noticeable difference I think the debate has been settled
>>77281734The main take away is studies are useless and are soothing balm for midwits' minds that gives them permission to do things. Would it be that hard for someone to figure out high volume vs high intensity on their own? No.
>>77281734Doesn't really matter you as a person have to decide how comfortable you are training to failure and how often you can really do that. No matter how settled the science is it won't change the fact you have to make your own choices.I can only train to failure, if I hold anything back I'll literally lose weight on my lifts. Which creates both the volume and frequency for my routine.
>>77281734For what ? For bodybuilding sure they're person dependent. For strength volume and frequency matter than anything else
>>77281734Over a longer timeframe I would be interested to know differences. I always did slightly lower weight with more volume as I try to avoid injuries now that I am past 30 but now I also see that there some thoughts out there that less volume and higher intensity equals less wear and tear on joints and tendons over many years. So, yeh, who knows.
Our /goat/ Lyle McDonald settled this ages agoIntensity is king. Bar size should slow down, the last rep of each set should be significantly slower.
>>77281734Doesn't matter. Just lift and never stop. it's that simple.
>>77281823>the last rep of each set should be significantly slower.I like that.
>>77281734Did low volume for years and only started looking aesthetic when I dropped it for higher volume lol idc what science says
>>77281823Yet he looks like shit and is weak af curious
>>77281734One set to failure is all you need.
>>77281849Dyel McDonalds is some kind of homosexual south Asian. Garbage genetics.
>>77281924Not an excuse, iranians do well in oly and wrestling
>>77281928In Dyel's case, he's not going to get big regardless of what he does. You can find pictures of him lean. You can see how garbage his muscle bellies are. His biceps only take up half the distance from his shoulder to his forearm. Small frame, looks to be high lats, high pecs. Just not built for putting on muscle regardless of whatever knowledge he has. You can't escape genetics regardless of what you do.
>>77281734I only do the big 4 lifts, and I do them once every 7-10 days or so, for one set of 1-3 reps. It works fine.>>77281797I don't even understand the concept of 'training to failure.' What is the alternative? Lifting light easy weights? What is the point of that?
>>77281800Wrong
>>77281949>I don't even understand the concept of 'training to failure.'Lift to failure, leave enough rir to get straight sets with your rest times. Do that until for a week or two. Retest failure. If it's out of the rep range add weight. If it's not keep lifting a a rep or 3 shy of it until it is. That's really all it is. A lot of people can do that without adverse reactions. I cannot.
>>77281734High Volume is literally better than Low Volume and Moderate Volume.COPE.>>77281823Lmfao.Same Lyle Mcdonald who thinks a High Carb Diet are “LE BAD” and keeps shilling Keto and Low Carb nonsense.
>>77281981>High Volume is literally better than Low Volume and Moderate Volume.that is not what is being compared here, anon.
>>77281734All the science heads are saying its about reaching real muscle tension/fatigue and the amount doesnt matter that much as long as you push to failure.
>>77281949Edging to failure is the other approach (1-2 reps in reserve) but I personally avoid it because studies themselves prove that people are shit at judging how much reps they have left in the tank.>>77281981Yakub McDonald has never spoken bad about carbs lmao. Spam more junk volume if you like it xis.
>>77281939He's pushing 60 as a lifetime natural and did somewhat successfully compete in powerlifting when he was younger. (As in, pressing respectable numbers and finishing in the mid-field, not winning competitions.)So he's gotta be doing something right because he has more to show for than almost all popular influencers.>>77281981>Same Lyle Mcdonald who thinks a High Carb Diet are “LE BAD” and keeps shilling Keto and Low Carb nonsense.No?
>>77281939Never seen a 50+ natty that lean before, yet another win for Lyle Mcdochad >B-but he’s smallPost body, you’re not that lean in your 20s and 30s and he’s not training for size
>>77281734Dude. The American College of Sports Medicine just released a new batch of guideline son resistance training with a gigantic metastudy after over 17 years and they are pretty sure about the whole more volume=more hypertrophy thing. Look it up.https://acsm.org/resistance-training-guidelines-update-2026/See pic, RT=Resistance Training. RTx=Resistance Training variables.
>>77282186All the studies are on new lifters. Of course with baby weight you cand do and probably need higher volumes. But at intermediate and beyond that changes.
the effective reps model makes this make sense >>77281939>>77282162lyles main sport was ice speed skating, the guy is an endurance athlete first. His bug success in powerlifting is coaching
>>77281734Just cycle them and do more of what you prefer. Effort is effort
>>77282175He's small and not THAT lean and probably roids. >he’s not training for sizeHe's also weak. This is just cope
>>77281963Post body then
>>77282162>somewhat successfully compete in powerlifting when he was younger.Lol what ? Neither him or his buttbuddy can 1/2/3/4
All this retards following roided routine fags. 1 day of volume 1 day of Strength Example With OHP and bench routine Week 1Day 1 OHP Strength 3x3Bench Volume 3x8Day 2Day 1 Bench Strength 3x3OHP Volume 3x8Week 2Day 1 OHP Strength 3x4Bench Volume 4x8Day 2Day 1 Bench Strength 3x4OHP Volume 4x8Week 3Day 1 OHP Strength 3x5Bench Volume 5x8Day 2Day 1 Bench Strength 3x5OHP Volume 5x8Week 4 DELOADINCREASE WEIGHT NEXT SESSION
>>77281734>be me>natty>do arnold bro split>get good results>best shape in my life>eventually plateau >take a week off because of family issues>get back a gym later and look absolutely more muscular and get new PR'sYears later...>out of shape again>try HIT because dorian yates>easily taper off routine >get bored during rest days and think about food all the time>eventually find groove>see poor results>go back to high volume trainingThis is my personal experience
>>77282937The human body can recover quite easily uf you get enough rest and protein. Fat faggots like you that complain you need more rest and carbs are the same weaklings that complain about dips being bad for your shoulders
>>77282937t. fat
>>77282151>Edging to failure is the other approach (1-2 reps in reserve) but I personally avoid it because studies themselves prove that people are shit at judging how much reps they have left in the tank.This is an important point. You never actually know. This just furthers my bafflement at this training method. What a load of garbage it is.>>77282925That's funny. The only thing I know about Lyle is he declared there was NO WAY rippetoe had trained zach to a 3 plate squat in the timeframe he listed, it's impossible. Then Rip posted a video and btfo him. So that makes sense, this guy lifted for decades and can't do 3 plates, so of course he thinks it's impossible Zach did it in 4 months or whatever
>>77282972>>77282981Weak faggots that never go heavy.
>>77283357>fat lazy powershitter that needs 15-30 minutes for each set of 1-2 reps
>>77281797I've only ever lifted every set to failure...
>>77281734I usually do almost one set at max weight 4-7 reps/failure but superset lighter weight following til failure. It's okay.
>>77281734High volume = less likely to get injured + better endurance
>>77283609>post routine >5x8 Fucking retard
>>77281734I would love to try Serge Nubret routine and style training for a year as a natty.
>>77281734>>77281939lyle mcdonald is doing 3sets of rest pause for chest and back and quadsdoggcrapp is suppose to be one 1set of rest pausewtf is going on?
