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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 12100, 5600G
Gaming: 12400F, 7600, 7800X3D
Workstation: 12700K, 7900X, 7950X
WARNING 13th/14th gen owners: Update your bios for the latest 0x129 microcode to prevent degradation

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
AM5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57X2FygcqLE [Embed]

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x48GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Low mid end: SN770
Premium: SN850X, P41
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT, RX 6750 XT
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE
4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
Standout:
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
2160p: Gigabyte M27/28/32U
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBTGQP

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Budget: Arctic P12/P14 Max (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM, NF-A14x25r G2 PWM

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>>101964064
this is someone's son's pc
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what is the monitor situation looking like right now?
I can't seem to find anywhere I can buy or price check the ASRock PG27QFT2A or the Dell
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i just bought this shitty mouse for $300.
pleasetell me i'm gay and retarded so i can feel good about myself.
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>>101964186
It could be worse.
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>>101964297
pamperchu
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>>101964064
Why is there a random Sakura on the Fujiwara case?
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>>101964348
I doubt it. Dude was trailer trash and died before that pic dropped.
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Not really a build, but I'm hoping you guys can help me since it's desktop hardware related.
The only game I play anymore is Minecraft (Java) on my really shitty laptop. It has a fucking dual-core i3 and 8GB of slow-ass DDR4 in it. After installing Sodium the game generally stays locked to 75 FPS (max refresh rate of the external monitor), but when loading in new chunks it grinds to a halt with the framerate dipping into the low 20s for a few seconds. Sodium/Fabric are the only mods I have installed and I'm not using anything fancy like shaders.
That all being said, what should I get if I want to just play the game at a stable framerate? I'm thinking the issue is CPU-related since it's a mobile dual-core from 2020. Currently I'm looking at 8th gen intel Optiplexes and they seem to fit the bill, but I'm not sure if the quad-core CPUs in those would suffice especially since they're the T-series ones.
Can I get something decent for like $300 USD?
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>>101964514
2hu is so lame, I'm convinced people just pretend to like it because it's "weeb culture" anyways, good luck with your build
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>>101964514
$300 is cutting it pretty close. Like you'd need to wait/look for an uncommonly low-priced Optiplex and used GPU to make it work. I'd say the more typical "brokefag gaming rig" starts at $400 - ~$300 for the office PC and ~$100 for the card.
With that said, unmodded MC is pretty damn light on the GPU so you might be able to get away with the Intel HD IGP on those machines. Can always save up for a card later if you like.
If you can save $400 upfront then DIY also becomes an option eg. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdKGrv (left some room in there for expansion/tax). Naturally the other route would perform better for general gaming but DIY would allow for later expansion/upgrades.
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>>101964761
Can you give me some actual advice?
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>>101964883
Old office PC and slap a 1070 in it and other stick of ram
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what should i get for $1600 (240hz monitor and rtx 4070 super must be included)
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>>101964883
yes, get a used case off facebook marketplace
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7cm6D
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>>101964921
Have you thought about a Cacturne v2.0?
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Who actually needs an itx build? Options are much more limited, they're much more expensive, and you're getting worse thermals. The only situation I can think of is if you're using it for a home theater or just plan on playing on a TV like a console and your TV table can't fit even a micro ATX case
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>Arctic Liquid Freezer III
I just did a build with this godforsaken thing and it was one of the worst experiences I've had installing a cooler in my 20-something years building PCs.

At least it works good
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>>101964285
Retarded, yes. Gay, quite possibly. I'm ordering picrel.
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>3080ti
>MSI MAG27QRFQD
wanting to upgrade to oled for better color contrast and better visuals what panel should i look into? Never experienced 32in is it really a big difference from 27? I personally dont like curved so no AW. Is 32 1440p noticable worse PPI? Since I already have a 1440p should I get 4k? Is it even worth it I mostly play ARPGs or casual single player in general.
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>>101965079
>screw to socket
>screw to case
>plug cables in
Do you struggle to dress yourself each morning?
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>>101965200
They all come with the retarded AMD offset mount nowadays and you have to wrench down the springs to get the screws to thread. I'm surprised people aren't breaking their sockets left and right with this thing.
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Any of the 4070 Ti Super variants to avoid at all costs? Also is the MSI Slim a fire hazard?
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Anon here who had constant stuttering in every games, turns out it was the RTSS overlay, specifically the power consumption display. Well, at least things run nice now, but the PC upgrade seems to be a waste of money.
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>>101965281
I'm not sure I'd trust the Msi Ventus 2X since it seems a little itty bitty for a 250w+ card. Same with the Inno3D Twin X2
they should work acceptably without throttling but they most likely won't run too cool or too quiet
rest should be fine
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>>101965502
The slim has a three fan variant too.
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>>101965499
Glad you worked it out. You can further optimize system latency with this fat autism guide here (run LatencyMon to measure it before & after):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXzM60ad8I
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>>101965545
Oh Jesus, that's a lot of stuff. Is there a TL;DR of the most efficient tweaks that are actually not placebo?
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>>101965001
Itx is for bugmen
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>>101965232
It bottoms out I don't know how it's an issue
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>>101965001
>>101965735
ITX is cute, case dismissed.
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>>101965867
So true transister!
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bought this, it has a 90 day return window
I couldn't say no for the price. it's renewed but it should be fine, will just be growing my media collection
Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB Internal Hard Drive Performance HDD - 3.5 Inch SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache for Desktop Computer (ST12000DM0007) (Renewed) https://a.co/d/hjrrAxM
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Should I be going based off of what the QVL of the motherboard manufacturer for ram or the company selling the ram sticks? Was looking at a few and noticed that they don’t always line up, particularly the non RGB variants that I’d rather have.
On a side note, are there ram sellers I should specifically stay away from? I was looking at G.Skill, Team, and Kingston for CL30 kits for the 7800x3D.
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>>101965539
the slim should be fine
despite its name it still has a pretty thick and dense heatsink
the fans are decently sized, I spy a handful of heatpipes and there's plenty of flowthrough
it should be perfectly fine
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>>101965125
Imo unless you need your screen to be flat for professional reasons just get the alienware, you'll get used to the curve which isnt as big a deal on ultrawides. Your monitor is relatively new so going ultrawide+oled is the best way to get to feel you have made a substantial upgrade without spending $1200 on the 4k 240hz oleds.
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>>101965125
>Since I already have a 1440p should I get 4k? Is it even worth it I mostly play ARPGs or casual single player in general.
The improvement in picture sharpness 4k offers over 1440p is marginal. As for OLED you might want to avoid it if your games have lots of static content due to burn in. OLED is the biggest jump in display quality after +60hz, if you're not afraid of babying your monitor go for it.
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>>101966117
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>>101966258
Fun fact. Tech on Tech is ServerPartDeals Amazon storefront.
https://serverpartdeals.com/
They have more refurb drives here. Some are 90 day warranty and some are 2 years.
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>>101964064
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow
What's wrong with the 4000D?
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Is SMT off better for latency for X3D CPUs???
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>>101966407
HT / SMT does have a latency impact and is measurable.
Will you notice it? No. So just leave it on as in some cases, games benefit from HT/SMT.
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>>101966407
Not for the 7800X3D, there's so much cache it barely goes out to memory
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>>101966407
I still suggest Cacturne v2.0 over any of those.
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Which HRT brand should I take?
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>>101966468
2mg progynova morning and night
12mg cyproterone every other day
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>>101966395
Good case but not worth the value. You need to bring your own fans as the stock 2 are dogshit.
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what exactly is the difference between ram timings of 30-40-40-76 and 30-40-40-96? i'm looking at 2 different pairs of 6000MT/s CL30 64gb ram and the latter is $50 more
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>>101966504
the stock 2 are fine, just cheap and you only get 2.
It would cost Corsair SFA to add 2 more fans and a hub
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>>101966533
The fourth number is tRAS. If you're into RAM tuning, secondaries not listed are more impactful to performance. tRRD_S, tRRD_L, FAW, tRFC, tREFI
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>>101966429
IIRC you want it off for DX11/SingleCore games and on for DX12/Vulkan/Multithreaded games?
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>>101964297
Thats mine. Have updated to Little Kings at this point
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>>101966660
Eh, not worth the time and effort unless you see a significant boost of like 20%+, which isn't going to happen.
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>>101966739
the point isnt avg fps, its latency. if turning off smt gives you any latency boost then thats huge especially at high fps. nobody likes stutters.
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>>101966783
Yeah but stutters are subjective, like bugchasers claiming the 7800X3D stutters even though there's no latency
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>>101966783
>latency boost
Not input latency but DPC latency.
Chasing DPC latency is a meme and I wish it would die.
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>>101966839
>shows the stutters in realtime
>nooo he's lying
Retard
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>>101966873
Kill yourself bugchaser
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>>101966894
Faggot.
Go get another booster shot.
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>>101966928
The only faggot is you, bugchaser
Have a shower and brush your teeth for once
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>>101966873
>not shown: 50 trillions overhead from peripheral bloatware, 200 chrome tabs open running 6 million js webworker pipes, and poor wangblows support cpu scheduling offset on launch
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Ahem
Fuck gay tracing
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>>101966928
why frame chasers never include real time power stats in rivatuner readout lol
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>>101966980
Stop noticing things!
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So SMT off seems good unless you need more threads
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>>101966953
I shower daily.
>>101966957
Schizo
>>101966980
Power consumption is what, 100-160W? Who cares when the GPU is using 500W? Your monitors are using 30-100W each?
I swear power consumption people are the biggest faggots and hypocrites ever.
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Why the fuck is it impossible to find a case without these stupid ass glass panels, any case that doesn't have it punishes you for it by removing shit the glass versions have like couger and fractal replacing the usb slots with plastic, or have 0 ventilation on the front whatsoever like anyone would buy a case that doesn't let them have any intake fans, and then they charge fucking 70-80$ for these dogshit cases. This shit is fucking retarded.
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>>101967390
Look for mesh side panels then? Don't look at glass panel cases and see if they have a non glass side panel version.
There's a few that are full mesh, side and front.
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>>101967490
Why would it be any different to any other landing
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>>101964064
will arrow lake get delayed due to intel's fuck up with raptor lake?
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I spent two days learning about ram and going through ram compatibility.

It's slightly cheaper to get two 32gb kits than one 64gb kit. and I can get one without RGB.

I'm looking at PSUs now, maybe the Corsair RM850e? any suggestions?
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>>101967552
no https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200-lineup-leaks-out-launching-october-10th
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>>101967619
>spent two days learning about ram and going through ram compatibility
Go spend some more time learning.
4 dimms will not run at DDR5 speeds
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>>101967619
Always 1 DIMM per channel (2 DIMMs total)
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>>101967108
zen 5 is a joke all the disabling in the world wont help that shit
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>>101967660
>>101967678

What?
I don't understand this, are you telling me that if if get two dual-channel kits, and put them into a motherboard that supports two dual-channel kits, they will not work as two dual-channel kits?
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>>101967619
>I spent two days learning about ram and going through ram compatibility
You clearly didn't learn anything. Never mix kits (the ONLY exception is Crucial kits with the same speed and timings, but those suck on DDR5 so don't bother).
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>>101967172
my undervolted and overclocked 4080 runs at less than half that. also, why should I bother with a higher wattage psu for that matter?
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>>101967723
how much exactly im gonna undervolt and oc my 79xtx
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>>101967720
>Never mix kits
What are you talking about?
two identical dual channel kits, is that not possible?
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>>101967732
240w
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>>101967744
They are not necessarily identical. G.Skill doesn't manufacture memory chips. In this case you would probably be fine, because there's a high chance both of those are Hynix A-die, but you never know.
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dumb question probably but how do you find a (budget) monitor without ghosting issues?
mine's also extra bad on fullscreen but not on windowed mode
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>>101967694
9950X is best for production while the 14900k is in the wilderness, gaming isn't bad it's just disappointingly stagnant
Most people are best off getting Zen4 especially at current Zen5 prices.
12th gen isn't even much better than Zen 3, and Arrow Lake is going to be expensive.
Basically everything sucks.
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>>101967772
you go to rtings.com and play the panel lottery when you settle on a model

'budget' oled will do you but enjoy your burn in/terrible lifespan
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>>101967720
>>101967660
"Go spend some more time learning"
"You clearly didn't learn anything"

As a guy who has spent the last 19 years working in offices, that kind of smug rudeness is the biggest red flag you don't know what you are talking about.
Either

A. you actually do know and you aren't telling him that answer because you are a cunt. I would put that on your record and recommend you be fired for that.

B. you don't know what you are talking about at all and just like disrupting people. I would absolutely call for you to be fired for that

go back to plebbit if you are looking to make some kind of cool persona

"but you never know."

ok, 100% chance you are full of shit, 100% of the time people say that they are lying. every single time.
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>>101967723
>4080
Lol
Well anyway, why do you care about an extra 30-70W?
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>>101967792
I just told him to learn more, clam down Karen
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>>101967799
even if i did want to go intelaviv, i would have to get a new psu, and a new cooler

no thanks mr noseberg
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>>101967810
you 100% don't know what you are talking about. Or you would have just told him. You are just looking for attention by annoying and inconveniencing people.

Since when can you not buy two kits of the same ram and not run them both without issue? they have the same XMP profile, same timings, etc.
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>>101967710
Two sticks of RAM can be overclocked easily since the CPU only needs to keep track of 2 RAM sticks. 4 and you will not be able to achieve the advertised 6000MHz speed.
Long story short:
If you want to OC your RAM and get the fastest speed then go 2 RAM sticks.
If you just want large amounts of RAM and not the speed then go 4 RAM sticks.
You cannot have both.
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>>101967747
very nice i think i got my 69xt back in the day to something similar
>>101967780
i alraedy have a 13600k which appears to be one of the good ones so far so im set for a long time
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>>101967835
Nta but he's right
It is common knowledge you don't mix ddr5 kits ever since we're at a point where the kits are fast enough and the memory controllers will shit the bed if you do 2DPC over 1DPC
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>>101967792
You were told the answer in the next post. But you could always fuck around and find out.
>>101967835
>Since when can you not buy two kits of the same ram and not run them both without issue? they have the same XMP profile, same timings, etc.
Very common on DDR4. You could buy two 3600C16 kits from the same brand, one would be DJR and the other would be Rev E, those would never work together.
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>>101967792
work wise, yeah and sometimes people get into positions where they dont belong due to connections, which also causes other coworkers to act like this.
so shut the fuck up and stop acting like you are able to judge everyone and everything at face value. he even said what the other anon should be googling, or learnign. literally putting his final sentence into google will give you an explanation how/why that is. youre fucking acting like everyone here needs to do public service for every other retard. no one does.
fuck you nigger.
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>>101967835
so now you're having a tantrum because you haven't kept up with what DDR5 requires.
Boomer behaviour
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>>101967619
Shit CPU cooler. At that price just get an AIO and get better cooling. I never recommend Noctua because they're so expensive for marginal gains.
Expensive mother board, the fuck are you doing?
Memory - people already told you that you're dumb so I'm not doing that again.
Get a faster boot drive.
I'm not to familiar with cases but anything above $100 should have at least 3 fans in it, if not you're overpaying.
Case fans are okay as long as you use them all, it's better to just buy the 3 pack.
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>>101967885
you can tell by the way that retard spaced his reply that he is a redditor

double newline between each sentence

typical cavedweller redditor behavior
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>>101967826
>>101967810
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>>101967765
>>101967720
>>101967678
>>101967660

instead of this autism, could someone explain what has changed?

quad channel ram, or getting two dual channel kits, has been the way to go back in DDR3 and DDR4 ram days, what has changed? It's bad enough now ram has to be compatible with the CPU, and my options are limited. so much RGB... why do all the good ram kits have RGB?

My choice of ram wasn't just financial, it was aesthetic. I do not want RGB in my PC if possible, I just dislike it.
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>>101967619
That RAM kit is tested for 2 x 16GB @6000, not 4 x 16GB @6000. If you try using two of it, all bets are off.
>trident z neo 2x16gb 6000 cl30 $188
>noctua nh-u12a $183
>crucial p3 plus $169
Those prices seem pretty high.
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>>101967914
GOOGLE WHAT HE SAID IN HIS FIRST POST YOU STUPID FUCK. NO ONE NEEDS TO SPOONFEED YOU ANSWERS OR OWES YOU ANYTHING FAGGOT
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>>101967914
Kys seriously
I gave a serious response and you didn't even read it
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>>101967914
ignorant fuck
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>>101967914
>what has changed
The speed. Because RAM speeds are so fast now CPUs can't really keep up.
CPU can keep track of the timings for first RAM stick easily, same with the second. Add in a 3rd and 4th it starts to lose the timings of the first and second stick leading to instability.
There's a lot of RAM sticks with no RGB. Just stop looking at name brands.
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what motherboard brand/chipset should i get for under-volting/watt-limiting a 14900K? From little research Ive done, Gigabyte has a nice option for a hard voltage limit; do other manufacturers have this? Whether Gigabyte or not, do I need a Z690/790 for this, or would a lesser chipset suffice?
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>>101967914
>quad channel ram, or getting two dual channel kits, has been the way to go back in DDR3 and DDR4 ram days
No it wasn't, you happened to get lucky if you did that and it worked. You could get one kit with four sticks validated to work together.
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>>101967964
Asus z790 is by far the best since they have the vf curve offset feature working
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So, because of free time and tinkering around, I realized I was missing 6 months of BIOS updates for an i7-13700K build thus missing the newest microcode addressing the overvoltage damaging the processor thingy. Having done that, I saw performance profiles that weren't there, intel default, intel extreme and asus advanced oc. Went with the last one, but then I saw XMP got disabled. I'm assuming this is for the best, right? I have DDR5 32GB (2x 16GB), ECC, CL32, 6800MHz sticks for the record.
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>>101967964
I like Asus and Gigabyte BIOS. If you're just lazy you could just use XMP.
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>>101967893
saying double spaced lines is 'redditspacing' is like calling the ok hand sign white supremacy

if there were such a thing as redditspacing, you would make sure to enter an extra newline after the post number you're quoting, in any case.

go back to neofag or gamefags or whatever shithole you are a refugee from
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>>101967976
Just enable it again. Those profiles only load their profile and leaves everything at default. It wont hurt you if you OC the RAM.
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>>101967976
>Went with the last one, but then I saw XMP got disabled. I'm assuming this is for the best, right?
XMP should still be safe, keep it enabled if it worked before
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>>101967976
Go with Asus advanced and XMP I in bios
Enable XMP since you already paid for it
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>>101967914
Consumer CPUs do not have quad channel, there's two dimms per channel and here is your answer that you didn't read >>101967826
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>>101967979
shut the fuck up already retard
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>>101967889
>Shit CPU cooler. At that price just get an AIO and get better cooling. I never recommend Noctua because they're so expensive for marginal gains.
you are the only person I've seen to call that CPU cooler shit. I need one with a maximum width of 125mm so I can sue the top of my GPU heat plate to heat medication. more importantly, it's very quiet. I have no intention of using water cooling in my PC.

>Expensive mother board, the fuck are you doing?
Australian dollars, that's the lowest price for a motherboard with two m.2 connections and built in Wifi. cutting out the wifi would save at most $40

>Memory - people already told you that you're dumb so I'm not doing that again.

>Get a faster boot drive.
suggestions? I have a sandisk M.2 that has been my only drive for years.

>I'm not to familiar with cases but anything above $100 should have at least 3 fans in it, if not you're overpaying.
I love the case. I need to replace my Silverstone PS15 because the GPU I got a great deal on doesn't fit. And I can give my old PC to my dad.

>Case fans are okay as long as you use them all, it's better to just buy the 3 pack.
these fans are surprisingly well reviewed, and I need them all to kit out this case. Three on the top, two on the bottom.
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>>101967914
>those prices
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>>101967780
>9600x
>Almost the same price as 7700 in my country (less than $10 difference)
Yeah, I think AMD wants to deplete zen 4 stocks
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>>101967989
>>101967994
>>101967996
I should have said that I did try enabling it but the on-exit change log prompt showed a bunch of other stuff being reversed from Auto (when choosing Asus OC profile it tells you to leave everything on auto and no voltage/freq restrictions) to specific values, thus my hesitancy.
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>>101967979
These guys are so new they think tripfags are bad, most of them haven't even seen my enormous penis or know about my terminal illness
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>>101968015
AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS
AUSTRALIAN PRICES
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>>101968006
>you are the only person I've seen to call that CPU cooler shit
Because people don't realize that paying an extra $100 (ONE HUNDRED) for marginal, like 1-2C, cooling is down right retarded. Your CPU will run fine at 70C or 68C. Paying $100 for 68C is dumb.
>suggestions? I have a sandisk M.2 that has been my only drive for years.
Samsung 980 is okay. or WD SN850X.
And your case is expensive with no fans.
But hey, it's your money.
Oh, and as for PSU Corsair is a true and trusted brand. Kinda expensive but PSU is the one thing I really don't recommend cheaping out on. Except when they don't need a large wattage one.
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>>101967108
>So SMT off seems good unless you need more threads

Oh masters of the universe. How can you tell?
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>>101967914
>could someone explain what has changed?

RAM, has come with an IQ test.
"Do you want your ram to cycle LED colors?"
Yes - you idiot.
No - Run long and hard.

Nephew: DDR5, was cycling colors... machines crashes... ram turns solid white. ALL four spids now have lost XMP profiles. ALL.

Run your ram as fast as it can by design, and turn OFF THE ****in RGB.
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>>101968056
Noctua is worth it for lifetime support and autism engineering, if you're willing to pay in that price range. Saving $30-50 on some deepcool or bequiet! premium chinkshit isn't worth it. If you don't want to pay just get a thermalright that has 90% of the performance for 1/3rd of the price.
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>>101968005
u mad u got told retard?
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>>101967975
What about Asus Z690?
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>>101968184
Later batches are also equally good but beware 12th gen launch year (2021) Asus z690 motherboards, those have a serious defect with ram overclocking which limits them to 5600-6000mt/s max stable
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>>101968159
lifetime support????????????????????????
the fuck do you need support for????????????????????????
their fans??????????????????????????????????
it's literally a chunk of metal with two 120mm fan on it. the fan is busted just buy a second fan once it happens
holy shit, that is literally the stupidest reason i heard for people going with a noctua cooler
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>>101968159
it's not $30-50, it's $80-$100, Noctua is overpriced, especially when you consider you can get an Arctic Liquid 3 AIO for the same price as a D15
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>>101968219
aio has expiry date tho

not to defend noctua, fan noise is a meme like rgb and their coolers are scam prices. just put your computer under your desk and you wont hear it retards
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>>101968210
noctuafags are whales and try to get other people to buy into the brand to justify their own purchase
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>>101968210
Noctua will mail you out free adapters for platform changes for like a decade and won't dump trash on the market like the Assassin IV with its fan resonance issue.
>>101968219
>AIO
top tier retard.
>>101968234
I actually chose a phantom spirit over the the d15 g2 for my newest build since noctua are tards and their fans are incompatible with modern DIMM sizes.
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Any corsair case that is good and cheap?
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>>101968249
>Noctua will mail you out free adapters
all cooler manufacturers offer that
>top tier retard
that would be you noctuafags paying four times a product value
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>>101968249
>Noctua will mail you out free adapters for platform changes for like a decade
And how often does this happen? Every 5 years? 3? Not only that, how expensive are those adapters anyways?
Let's say you need an adapter change every 4 years and it costs $30 for it. You would need to use the same cooler for 12 years before you get your money's worth.
lmao
And AIOs are fine even with their limited lifespan. If it lasts for 5 years and it costs you $90? It's definitely worth it.
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>>101968315
The adapters are more like $10 so it's even longer
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>>101968288
>noctuafags paying four times a product value
t. buys chinkshit marked up 10x. Noctua needs to cut prices by about a third but you at least get some value from the higher prices. Most air coolers more expensive than a thermalright are a total scam that would be outperformed by a single fan D15 G1 setup.
>>101968315
>You would need to use the same cooler for 12 years before you get your money's worth
Yeah, that's called quality engineering. You shouldn't need to ever replace your cooler if you stay roughly within the same TDP. Anyone who buys a new cooler because it cools by an extra degree in some controlled GN benchmark is a tard.
>AIOs are fine even with their limited lifespan
The problem with liquid cooling is the rest of your PC getting destroyed with a leak.
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How about this then?
Yes I will make sure to get the AMD version of the ram
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Bros... imagine if the 9950X3D has cache on both CCDs
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>>101959538
Very late reply but G24F 2
Never buying gigabyte monitors ever again
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>>101967172
>Who cares when the GPU is using 500W
WRONG. mine is watt limited to 150W
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>>101967957
bullshit i call bullshit source or bullshitt
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Is there something that can be implemented for a PC that works like a notebook battery for emergencies?

Mostly for blackouts, I hate when my PC turns off suddenly. Wish I had like 15s to block it or something.
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>>101968458
Yes, it's called an uninterruptable power supply or UPS
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>>101968046
yeah prices here are fucked im gonna move os as soon as possible its a shithole
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>>101968458
UPS

invest into a good one because some UPS will fuck up your power supply
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>>101968357
Anon, CPU advances and won't be the same TDP 12 years from now. And it's not quality engineering because it's literally a radiator with a fan. If a fan lasts 12 years without the bearings wearing out I'll be surprised.

As for AIOs the pumps fail first before it even leaks.
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Anyone else here HATE seeing pc interiors? To me they're like intestines, a reddit fad. A nice, clean case without glass is much better.
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>>101967765
Can confirm. Have two kits of g skill 3200. One is pair is humid chips, the other pair is Samsung. Same timings and haven't had any issues in 5 years.
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>>101968505
>noctua fan fails
OH BOY I GET TO SPEND $100 ON TWO FANS
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>>101968501
>>101968465
Thanks lads. Any recommendations for something basic?
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>>101967799
i run my PC in a camper off a battery while fucking your mother
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>>101968530
APC, Tripplight, CyberPower

As long as it's sine wave
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>>101968505
>CPU advances and won't be the same TDP 12 years from now
Even a thermalright can handle a 200W TDP and I doubt that 12 years from now, there will be more than 16 physical cores per chiplet even in an enthusiast grade cpu. I don't see any reason to believe that a nock tuah or any other well engineered cooler couldn't last a decade in a consumer PC.
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>>101968529
When you consider 120mm fans are as cheap as $4, you are retarded for buying Noctua.
But hey, it's your money. If you are not going to listen to advice then why even post your build? Go buy whatever you want to buy. I ain't stopping you, what I will do is just call you retarded.
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>>101968006
Based Noctua air-cooler appreciator
>>101968519
Picrel for you too
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>>101968572
>I doubt that 12 years from now, there will be more than 16 physical cores per chiplet
imagine what people 12 years ago were thinking brainlet
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Alright, I’ve narrowed down memory picks to this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/. Got the Taichi for $270 at Microcenter and now I just need to get some RAM compatible with it. According to the QVL the Kingston and Team sticks are supported (Hynix A-Die and M-Die respectively) but the G.Skill kit is a wild cars: the vendor says it works but ASRock doesn’t have it listed. Am I fine to go for the cheapest set or is there a major difference between the dies that I should be aware of?
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>>101968588
nice link bro
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>>101968588
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
nice list, idiot
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>>101968588
Your link is broken
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>>101968525
>One pair is hynix chips...
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>>101968585
>brainlet
12 years ago the top end retard expensive CPUs had 6 physical cores. Today they have 8 physical performance cores per CCD or a horde of daughter cuck cores.
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>>101968519
I used to like glass panels, now I hate it.
I don't know, I now like the full aluminum cases. Maybe because I can just stickerbomb the fuck out of it without really caring. If it was glass then I'm more hesitant to put stickers.
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>>101968498
>jpg
terrible
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I think I'm going to try vinyl wrapping my case with beige wrap
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>>101968650
I find I can see through glass better than metal.
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>>101968682
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>>101968593
>>101968594
>>101968596
Well I feel stupid now. Attempt number 2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZfGrv
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>>101968722
Jesus christ, your motherboard is expensive. Do you even need an EATX board?
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whats a good big down draft cpu cooler
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>>101968722
All of those kits will work fine
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thoughts?
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xtghVW
FORGOT THE LINK REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>101968722
what the fuck is that mobo
ddr5 wont work like that
1200 dollars and dont even have a gpu
a joke of a build
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>>101968741
I got it for $270 locally, that price doesn’t represent it actually. For the price I paid I think it’s a steal EATX or not.
>>101968799
Gotcha, I’ll probably just go with the Team memory kit then since I can buy it locally.
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>>101968835
I'm assuming he's listing all the RAM he was considering. He's not buying all three and is just there so we could see. Stop being mean.
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>>101968722
>$500 us motherboard
WHY?!?!!?

Why isn't an mATX enough?
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>>101968835
Read their original post >>101968588
They got it for half price and want to know which kit they should get
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>>101968843
>For the price I paid I think it’s a steal EATX or not.
It's really not. Other EATX boards have more PCIe slots. And even more features.
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why is arrow lake still slower than the 5800X3D
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>>101969073
Intel burnt out their last architecture trying to chase the X3D chips, they're hoping Zen4 tier gaming will be enough for their stans
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>>101968862
that excuses the 500 dollar mobo for sure
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>>101968869
Any other options that that don't lane split the PCIE x16 5.0 slot with no lane splitting at a price point of $300 or less? I won't stand on my hill, if you have a better option then I'll take it in to consideration. I only need at most 4 SATA ports and 3-4 M.2 drives, leaning more towards 3.
>>101968848
That was the intention. I'm assuming that poster was either a) retarded or b) low effort shitposting.
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>>101968588
>>101968722
Get either the kingston fury or teamgroup t-create. Those have a more aggressive expo profile with 30-36-36-76 timings while the g.skill is the older less optimized 30-38-38-96 timing bin
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>>101969073
9800x3d will be slower than the core ultra 5 245k my dude
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>>101969124
First, ask yourself why you need 4 SATA ports and 3-4 M2 slots and why you don't want lane splitting.
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>>101964064
boob girl, very nice
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>>101969168
The 245K is slower than the 14900K which means it's slower than the 7800X3D, even doomfag uplift still buries the 14900K and 245K even further.
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What RAM is better:
64gb DDR5 6000 30-40-40-96
32gb DDR5 6000 30-36-36-76

This will be paired with an X3D processor. When I’m not fucking ridiculously hot chicks or playing tennis, I play video games and do a bit of AI gen on my comp, lots of processes at once.
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>>101969218
There's no real world difference between those other than capacity
But if you must, you can minmax with 2x32gb 6000 30-36-36-96 offered by g.skill
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DP7scf/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3036g32gx2-tz5nrw
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>>101965094
You know those are not keyboard mechanical switches right?
https://youtu.be/DuYpAiSMu2s?t=59
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>>101969218
wow you must be rich. I'm buying 74gb of 3600 ram for my 5900x, and glad to be geddingit
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What is cheapest good silent click mouse? Preferably wireless but I'll take wired.
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>>101969153
diff anon.
i ordered kingston fury, it's on sale on amazon rn, don't know how long it'll last.
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>>101969287
touchpad
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>>101969168
>core ultra 5 245k
is intel literally retarded for this naming convection
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>>101969305
categorically and factually touchpad is not a mouse.
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>>101969393
rub a mouse on it, now it is ontologically the most mouse's pad.
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>>101969387
5245k rolls on the tongue,fivetwofourfivekey, how long can they keep up these numbers to roll though
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>>101969387
i literally don't understand intel's cpu numbers. the naming should tell you socket and basic specs.
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>>101969403
the click is loud on touchpad, tapping isn't clicking
still wrong.
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>>101969387
the old naming scheme made too much sense, now they'll be able to confuse normalfags into overbuying
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>>101969418
>naming should tell you socket and basic specs
The intel 1851-6p8K?
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>>101969434
Intel would love this naming scheme
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>>101969456
It will expose their tricks if they ever try to refresh that cpu as a new "gen"
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I recommend using letters for sockets.

And, I think we can come up with our own naming scheme.

I suggest the first letter is the company. So the first letter is either a or i.

the next is a number. it's the year of release, in 2 digits.

next is the socket. we can use letters. after the 25th, we'll switch from lower case to upper.

next is the number of cores, total, without any indication of quality etc. it is a number padded by zeros, and is 10 digits long, for future-proofing.

...0000000004 is a 4 core cpu.

we finish with memory type, designated by letter in the fashion previously indicated.

the ending is list price, and this time we use 100 digits, padded by zeros, to harris-proof the convention.

00000 00000 00000 00000
00000 00000 00000 00000
00000 00000 00000 00000
00000 00000 00000 00000
00000 00000 00000 00350

to indicate $350 msrp (spaces should be removed, I added for clarity)
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>>101969467
They could just refer to the socket by its letter for the refresh V2-6p8k, it's a whole different sku
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>>101969491
>after the 25th,
lol @ accidental pro-ukraine propaganda
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where to shop for radiators? would like choices from 80 to 280mm.
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>>101969502
Unless you recompile 16h a day or render videos there is absolutely no reason to go water cooling.
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R8 my pick. For case, it either going into some crusty 15 year old tower or the cheapest one I can find.
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>>101969773
Linko: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XR6Lz6
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>>101969781
garbage
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>>101969781
It's shit.
You could literally buy a cheaper CPU cooler and still perform better than what you picked.
Your motherboard is overpriced and doesn't even fit the rest of your build.
1 stick of SLOW RAM. lol
Could probably get a cheaper NVMe but it's okay.
850W PSU when your total wattage is like 550w. Get a 750w PSU instead, hell, even a 650 could work.
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>>101969793
Can you tell me what's wrong with it? I'm a poor. It doesn't let me add ecc ram, lets just swap that out, now what's wrong with it?
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>>101969811
it's not necessarily overpriced, just way too beefy, it could run a 24-32 core cpu (doesn't even exist)
the cooler is a joke 65W of dissipation
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>>101969811
Ok, danke, I'll go with cheaper cooler and expensive ecc ram 16x2. I was thinking one 256gb for boot drive and one ssd for storage. Thoughts?
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>>101969831
get 1 drive
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How much power I need for a 4090 + 7950x3d?
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>>101969831
You do know your motherboard doesn't support ECC RAM, right? The average user doesn't even need ECC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BMdfN6
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>>101969860
Oh, I was wrong, it does support ECC.
I guess if you value ECC that much, then sure. All my machines don't use ECC except my server.
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>>101969878
>>101969860
What server do you run? I bought 3 old core 2 duo computers for running my server, it worked well, but no ecc, I took it down because I wanted a test cluster of 3 more systems, which I didn't want to spend at that time. Anyways, I'm planning to get just one single proper computer for server.

>The average user doesn't even need ECC.
Blasphemy.
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>>101969908
Supermicro X11SSM-F with Xeon E3-1240 v6. 32GB of ECC UDIMM. I hate Noctua but their coolers fit a lot of Supermicro boards with no hassle so I went that route. Inside a Fractal Design Define 7 XL. Quadro P4000 for Jellyfin, a 8i SAS HBA but only using 22 HDD, 19 raw storage with 3 parity. Last two slots are kept empty when I need to swap out a HDD. And a 10GbE NIC.

I might need to upgrade soon. X12 is going EOL soon and Xeon E3-1200 v6 and v5 are already EOL. But I'm in no rush. It's expensive to upgrade. Only thing I really want is rather than UDIMM I wanted to use RDIMM but RDIMM Supermicro boards are expensive.
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>>101969878
ecc won't save you from intel shitting your drive
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>>101969858
850W
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Is the Dell G2724D at ~320 EUR directly from DELL still considered a good deal (guess so)? I didn't want to order for 235 before my holiday and now it costs more. Might find it a bit cheaper from some resellers.

Currently have LG ultrafire 2k as main and a cheap office FHD one as 2nd monitor. I guess no point in upgrading to 4k with current machine. Might build a new one some time next year
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>>101970259
why is your ddr4 at ddr3 speed? 2133 is very slow it hurts your performance more than you think
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>>101970316
I will look into it, but I think it went this way when I upgraded my 2x8 with another 1x16 I got from a colleague dirt cheap.
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>>101970259
stop using speccy, its abandonware. use Hwinfo64

>>101970354
>3 dimms
jfc...
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>>101970364
>Hwinfo64
will do

>3 dimms
>jfc...

Yeah, just slapped it on top with a 'new' GPU (rtx 570 4gb) to get another year or two.
I have some more expenses piled up rn, but will start planning a new build soon
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>>101970429
recaptcha was "hw4k"
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>>101970316
>1066 FCLK on zen 2
that CPU is crying out for more bandwidth
>>101970429
3 DIMMs will run worse than 2 DIMMs
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>>101964514
modpack dev here, try getting more of jellysquid's optimization mods first like lithium.
I can play minecraft locked to 30 fps on my T420 with them. There's also stuff like noisium that you could try. I'd suggest a launcher like modrinth to manage the mods.
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>>101970364
>abandonware
So?
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>>101969629
thats your opinion, and its wrong.
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>>101970513
it has no way to detect DDR5 or anything past Zen2, I'm pretty sure its last supported CPUs are 11th gen
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>>101969860
>The average user doesn't even need ECC
im not the average user. im top 1%
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>>101970429
>he doesnt have triple channel memory
weak
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8700G is CPU with best integrated graphics, right?
When will a CPU be released with a faster iGPU, and will it be AMD again, or Intel?
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>>101970697
supposedly the igpu in Arrow Lake isn't bad and on par with the 780M but the 880M is about 5% faster than the 780M and the 890M is 1660 tier.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-890m.c4224
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>>101970614
ikr, but does the job
still I have a display dilemma before myself, hope in the near future I can do a new build.
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>>101970697
Fast iGPU isn't happening anytime soon. GPU die sizes, transistor counts and power consumption have absolutely ballooned. 80 bucks used gpu like 1660ti/super beats all the iGPUs.
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>>101970011
Really awesome server desu. Apparently RDIMM is only required when you use large amounts of ram, for 32gigs, udimm is fine.
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>>101970011
Bruh, I love your case, I want one of those.
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>>101970937
Strix Halo is 7700XT tier with a 16core CCD, laptop only however.
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>>101971058
I see. On laptop or handheld they can just drop GDDR modules into the main pcb. On pc you can't do that so high performance igpu makes no sense to even try.
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RGB or not RGB, that is the question
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>>101971031
Could try Avito bullshit, I don't recommend it, 100= 1 usd is the life. I gave up on etting anything cheaper, waiting for Samsung G8 to be in stock soon-ish, price is really close to EU one
https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/fe72f1a8e66eed20/265-monitor-msi-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2-cernyj/
cheapest right now from what I checked, and 32" version for 125k, but G8 is better

In Europe KTC monitors would be cheaper I guess, but by like what? 10k($80)? why the risk?
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>>101971105
>RGB
Only if you like cocks.
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>>101971144
My life is already too sad for me to have such an aversion to RGBshit
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>>101971105
get what is cheaper with same function.
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hi, is this a viable build? https://cz.pcpartpicker.com/list/rYcR28
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My PC build

1080p144hz pixio 100% SRGB monitor
AMD 6700XT
AMD Ryzen 5600X
K120 logitech keyboard
Logitech G600 Mouse

Never obsolete. I'm going to be running this PC until it blows up or we get neural VR.
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no storage or peripherals, i'll use my old stuff
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>>101971174
>Logitech G600
How good are the side buttons? I would really love this sized mouse with buttons like on keyboard, are those just clicky ones?
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>>101971174
Clean your keyboard, it is dirty as fuck.
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>>101971174
should last 5 years easy
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>>101971216
you do not simply clean a K120, you let it fester until it breaks (impossible)
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>>101971196
They are good side buttons, good for mmo but I rarely use them since I don't play ffxiv anymore. I only bought the mouse for that and then after I hit level 60 I realized how stupid the story of that game was, and in general how stupid final fantasies world building and lore is that I stopped playing. A game that doesn't have cohesion in its world with random themes is an instant loss of attention for me.

>>101971216
It's really dirty. It has fry crumbs, fingernails and hair in it with some soda splotches in some keys making them sticky. SOVL.

>>101971219
I've had it for 2 years, I'm thinking until 2030 it will be good for me. I'm going to squeeze all the juice out of this AM4 I can before then.
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nice, thanks for the info
im hyped for ARL
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>>101971164
It's more of an aesthetic issue. I was choosing between the Air 903 base/max. The max comes with an extra fan and has ARGB, but the problem is that the fans on the 903 max are white. I think it really worsens the design if I want to turn off the RGB. What do you think?
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>>101971257
Of course it is dirty as hell, membrane keyboard's users are real swines. There are no exceptions.
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>>101971172
Yes looks excellent. The only things I'd reconsider are the RAM and mobo but those are nitpicks. If you built it as-is it'd run very well.
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>>101971265
I'd take the black one and buy a random black fan additionally,
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Is 4080 even enough for 4k?
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>>101971265
nta but I think you're getting lost in the weeds. If you care about aesthetics then buy the one you like the look of more. If not, buy the cheaper one. They both have enough fans so don't sweat that.
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>>101971257
>I've had it for 2 years, I'm thinking until 2030 it will be good for me. I'm going to squeeze all the juice out of this AM4 I can before then.
I've had my 3300X since 2020 when the 3600 was $300 dollarydoos and the 3300X was $220, right now the 5600 is $170 dollarydoos and I'm tempted.
planning on keeping this system until AM6, the 2060KO is doing fine so I doubt I'll upgrade that until then either.

>>101971257
>It's really dirty. It has fry crumbs, fingernails and hair in it with some soda splotches in some keys making them sticky. SOVL.
based, the only keyboard you'll ever need

>>101971268
unless you type for a living its not needed and is the purview of bugmen spending $600 on 1/4 keyboards, fuck outta here with that cabbage.
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>>101971304
Cope harder, turd world dweller.
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>>101971296
What are your performance expectations?
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>>101971315
>Cope harder, turd world dweller.
I'm not American at all, mech keyboards are for bugmen.
for example first video on google... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGgBdHpQZw

>OMG MECHANICAL KEYBOARD :O
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>>101971304
>bugmen spending $600
Got my Leopold FC750R with black switches for like $80, 8 years back, stealth caps are the best, pure black color. I'm going to be buried with it in 50 years.
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>>101971322
60fps, RT with upscaler, I don't think it will survive for 5 years
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>>101971343
my K120 cost me $10 and I'm also going to be buried with it after they hose it off.
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>>101971358
I threw away a few dozen of ~$10 membrane keyboards before getting this one.
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>>101971357
Its already non-viable today
>https://youtu.be/kOhSjLU6Q20?t=404
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>>101971392
pathtracing is bullshit nvidia pushing for marketing, it's like trying to run RT on 1070 back in 2016, you technically can do it but why?
DXR GI is alright if devs spend a bit of time on it, Wukong devs clearly only copy pasted nvidia dlls, because their main market traget is consoles and game runs perfectly well without RT
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Please suggest me a GPU
>Works on linux
>2 4k 60fps monitors, lets add one more monitor, 2 might just be enough though
>just web browsing and office work
>power effecient
>Work for next 10 years
Is there a GPU for this usecase?
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>>101971415
The market has spoken, PT will be the future whether we like it or not.
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>>101971357
>60fps, RT with upscaler
Should be fine then. At least for RT - full PT will be a stretch but to be fair even the 4090 struggles with that.

>I don't think it will survive for 5 years
Agreed but, again, no card on the market today will do that. Meaning you'll have to decide if it's better to buy a 4090 now and reduce your demands over time or do a mid-cycle card upgrade.
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Looking to upgrade my monitor. Since desk space is limited and I sadly have no space for 2x27" I'm considering a 34" ultrawide.
Use case is mostly programming (work and personal), music production (Reaper, VCV Rack) and some gaming, although I do that more on my TV. GPU is a RTX4070.

Been eyeing the Gigabyte M34WQ for a while.
34" 3440x1440p 144Hz flat IPS with KVM so I can hook up my work laptop easily.
Currently at €439 where I live.
Don't think I can get a curved non-VA ultrawide at this price, can I?

Any better alternatives?
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>>101971425
unironically rx 580, insanely cheap for the perfomance, if ur not gaming it will work perfectly fine with 4k, 3 hdmi ports, 1 dp port and 1 dvi port
tho idk if it will last 10 years but its like 60$ will last at least 5-6 years if it hasnt been mined on
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>>101971426
>PT will be the future
yeah, in 5 generations if we are lucky, we are nearing 2nm node dead end, GPU will reach it's limits, remember "20nm" years of suffering? multiply that x3
PT is bruteforcing method, that doesn't even look that good outside showcases(look at 2077), you cna't magically make a chip that will run something like that if you run out of space for the cores, I'd rather they focused on tech like lumen from UE, hybrid approach, consoles clearly doing that
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>>101970259
>16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @ 1579MHz (16-18-18-36)
better? Will I finally get good at CoD?
Removed the 1x16gb and this time enable XMP or whatever it was called.
I remember I wanted 32gb for some labs/vms I had to run, which I now don't nor will need anytime soon.

Still would appreciate input about the monitor
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>>101971429
>no card on the market today will do that
frame gen tech seem to be improving at good pace
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>>101971455
>Gigabyte
don't. search for something else, gigabyte tends to die randomly.
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>>101971476
Nice idea, I could save myself a lot of monies, it costs like 100bux new here, I was planning to get 7800xt with is like 500 to 600bux. I might as well save some monies.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rHxhbL
USA, soft budget $1,500; hard budget $2k. Monitor is a 1080p 60Hz Samsung. How retarded is this build? I'm trying to upgrade from a potato PC I've had since 2014, and I'm aiming for something that can run Elden Ring and GTA V at mid to high settings. Could this do the job or is it under/overpowered? Also, is using a micro ATX motherboard in an ATX case a bad idea?
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>>101971558
that's severely overpowered, upgrade your monitor.
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>>101971558
My nigga I'm running both of those games on a 1070.
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>>101971455
What do you mean you don't have desk space? Why not get two monitors that have vesa mounts and a chinesium single mount dual monitor holder? It might be better than a gimmicky ultrawide.
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How big of a jump will be going from Zen+ to Arrow Lake
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>>101971631
>>101971688
After some more research, I think it's better today downgrade to a 7600 kek. Thanks for the heads up
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>>101971963
>to just downgrade
Fuck phoneposting
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>>101971944
Best to rethink your plan anon
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>>101971525
Sure but devs are already building it into their performance budgets. Software bloats to fit the hardware.
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>>101972053
I'm not gonna game anon
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>>101971963
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n4qQXk
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I have bought almost all of the new parts to assemble a new computer to replace my old system. The only thing left is GPU, which I am still undecided on. I live in Denmark so prices are a bit odd, but the choices are:
7700 XT for about 3500 DKK
7800 XT for about 4200 DKK
7900 GRE for about 4900 DKK
I'm playing games at 1440p, and ideally I'd like to buy a GPU that's going to last me as long as my last one did (GTX 980 from 2015). I know it's impossible to tell what will happen in future, but my understanding is that there's a fairly large jump in performance between each of these cards, so is it worth paying the bit extra today for the 7900 GRE to prolong the period it's good for. I don't play AAA slop.
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>>101972099
7800XT is best value, you get a 20% jump going from the 7700XT to the 7800XT but only a 10% jump going from the 7800XT to the 7900GRE.
are there any 6900XT/6950XT's still available in Denmark?
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>>101968405
https://youtu.be/ZcP9jiCbakw
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>>101971558
>>101971558
>Also, is using a micro ATX motherboard in an ATX case a bad idea?
No, it's fine. Actually makes building easier on account of the extra clearance from the extra space afforded from the "oversized" case.

>>101971963
>After some more research, I think it's better today downgrade to a 7600 kek. Thanks for the heads up
Good move. Was still overpaying for the cooler, PSU, and NVME drive. Also that 2TB HDD is a terrible deal for $/TB, when this 6TB SKU is triple the capacity for only $3 more.
Trimmed about $140 of fat off your build for no performance loss:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HBWN6

Also with the savings under your budget please listen to >>101971631, 1080p@60Hz in 2024 is sub-bottom-of-the-barrel. There are many cheap but well-recommended 1440 high-refresh gaming monitors for available now for very little that WILL be a night and day difference in your gaming/computing experience like the ASRock PG27QFT2A & Dell G2724D both well under $200:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N2cgXL/asrock-pg27qft2a-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft2a

Reviews:
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d
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>>101969433
DURRR NEWER NUMBER SMALLER
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>>101972208
Also that mobo you picked out already has integrated WiFi, so is there a reason you were going to a get a separarte WiFi adapter card too?
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>>101969259
Baste i got 64gb for the old 13600k i had the 5900x as well good cpu
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>>101971425
a770
undervolted 6800
undervolted oc 1080ti
uv oc 2080ti
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shill bread is in the oven, wait patiently until it's done please
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Iam considering getting a 9950X because it's great for production and decent for gaming, and i only have a laptop and an AM5 motherboard.
What GPU would pair with aforementioned CPU?

That being said, any resources/yt channels/advice for production related hardware?
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>>101972261
Level1Linux
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>>101972259
Make sure to include more likes to userbenchmark and gamegpu.
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>>101972236
I really like wifi.
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>>101972099
Just take the risk and get an used 3090. By far the best value you can get.
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>>101972208
Holy shit, thank you! I'll definitely look into those monitors, never knew that shit mattered for performance (I am retarded.)
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>>101972236
Nah, just forgot to take it off before I sent it.
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>>101972236
yeah thats why I got rid of it for the changes I made >>101972073
I'm not sure if he even has that 6950XT or not which is why I included the 7800XT
>upgrade from potato PC I've had since 2014
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Morning, homos! I have the most retarded question the history of PC building questions. I have a NVME raid card in my current PC that I have a fuckton of games installed. I would like to move it to a new one in a couple months. Can I just unslot it from the PCI slot and move it to a new PC and Windows will recognize it, or do I have to unraid and wipe them first? It's not my OS install drive, and it's a software Raid0 config. And what's a good AM5 motherboard that supports more PCI-E lanes and bifurcation so I don't have to put my GPU in the 8x slot like an asshole. Intel looks to be my best best for that, but I don't want to buy Intel for obvious reasons.
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>>101972133
>are there any 6900XT/6950XT's still available in Denmark?
Unfortunately not for cheaper than the 7900 GRE
>>101972359
>Just take the risk and get an used 3090
No, how about you take the risk and an hero
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Based dane rejecting the nvidia shills
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>Have a fat gaymer laptop with shit tier battery life
>Now need a laptop for studies
>Need to lug this fat piece of shit plus brick power supply to class and all the baddies will laugh @ me
I don't feel like dropping 1.3k on one of those Snapdragon elite X laptops with 25 hours of battery life just yet, but I am fucking tempted to just not to have a fat piece of shit not gonna lie
might wagecuck and just drop some bands to not have to lug that fat shit because this is gonna be painful

TLDR anyone have any opinion on the HP OMNIBOOK X's?
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anyone who buys a used 3090 is a retard.
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>>101972859
Was it the 3090 that came with built in space invaders or was that the 2000 series?
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>>101972899
I think that was the 2080ti, everything available used now was mined to shit during the last cryptobubble but especially the 3090s
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>>101972859
every week or so someone complains on guru3d or reddit that their used 3080ti or 3090 overheats like shit because the paste pumped out or the pads disintegrated.
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>Poor man's question
A friend gifted me his old GTX 1660 Ti. For me it's a great upgrade from my old 1050 Ti.

My cpu is a Ryzen 3 3100. I could get a second hand Ryzen 5 3600 for like 45$ or a 5600 for around $75. Is it worth upgrading the cpu for a better match with that 1660 Ti?
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>>101967914
I'm thinking of getting these, I agree with the RGB shit.
https://www.centrecom.com.au/team-t-create-expert-64gb-2x32gb-ddr5-6000mhz-cl34-ram-black

I'm thinking of building this
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hRGmbL
I might get some fans that have lighting so I can see into the case but ram and gpu with RGB is goyslop
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>>101973304
I'd personally take the 5600 as it would be a staggering upgrade.
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>>101972859
I did that, it has zero issues since I got it, I lucked out it seems. I'll probably repaste it next year, so far the thermals are great too.
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>>101973304
It's not worth it, no. I have a 1660S with an R5 2600. Almost nothing ever stresses the CPU whilst the GPU often reaches 100% utilisation. At this level of GPU you don't need to think much about CPU.
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>>101971700
Desk is 120cm wide and there's studio monitors next to screen. Can't move the studio monitors any further apart and between them would fit at most a 34" ultrawide. It is what it is.
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>>101973304
Maybe not for the gpu but in general tasks that 3600 is a nice upgrade for your 3100. If you can get it for 45$ I think its worth it
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>>101973416
>doesn't know about CPU limited games
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I currently have a RTX 3060 12gig graphics card and an AMD 2600. Is this causing a bottleneck in my system where I should upgrade my CPU? I have 16 gigs of DDR4 memory and a 165hz 1080p monitor

I'd prefer to keep the same motherboard, it a Gigabyte x570 AM4 socket
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>>101973499
5800x3d is end game for AM4.
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>>101973304
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/
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>>101973499
you could drop in a 5700X3D easily
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>>101973485
>doesn't know about CPU limited games
What would you recommend? I like playing cyberpunk and that seems to be a cpu intensive game. What cpu would you pair with a 1660 Ti?
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>>101973304
>>101973571
nta but for cyberpunk get the 5600 if you're poorfagmaxxing.
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>>101973727
>>101973727
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>>101973412
That's a beauty



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