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>Summer vacation>Come back>Everyone is spamming Emmanuele Bassi pictures and saying "What is the use case for x">Can't find anything about it*sigh...* what did Gnome do this time?
>>102151977What's the use case for doing things?
>Name: nvidia-utils>Depends On: egl-waylandwhy bros.I use x11, not wayland. Why do waylandbros continue to harass me.My nvidia card randomly turns on and I think it might be this package's fault.Plus I don't want the bloat.
Qt 6.8.0 beta4 got tagged earlier:https://github.com/qt/qtbase/releases/tag/v6.8.0-beta4Time to updoot
>>102152015Nvidiot
>>102152041well how do you suggest I fix this issue?
>>102152015If you don't want the bloat you should throw away your paperweight and run a superior Intel iGPU like a Core 2 Duo that runs perfectly with both X11 and Wayland
>>102152056why have it be a dependency in the first place?
>>102152053by installing gentoo and putting -wayland into USE
>>102152087Because Nvidia and your distro are not going to make separate X11-only builds for your special snowflake needs
>>102152097well, why isn't it an optional dependency?xorg is an optional dependency.>Optional Deps: >xorg-server: Xorg supportIf I install nvidia-utils again, then I think I will try and forcibly remove egl-wayland.
Is there that big of a difference in resource usage with sway compared to plasma-desktop?
>>102152132The binary was compiled against it. And that's that since it's closed source.
>>102152132Because you can't optionally link to a library. You'd have to make two separate builds or do ugly hacks with dlopen and friends (which is not robust and can fail).If you forcibly remove it then you might break the utilities because they won't be able to find the library anymore.
>>102152132>why isn't it an optional dependency?Because Linux desktop moved to Wayland.
>>102152203>movedlollmao
>>102152202yes you can, dynamic linking makes it trivial, you can use patchelf to remove needed library and boom, it's done
>>102152214GNOME did, KDE did, XFCE is doing so, LXQt is doing so, Cinnamon (which is just a fork of Mutter as far as its compositor is concerned) is doing so.Anyone else?You're stuck in the past if you're still clinging to X11.>>102152228Now watch the application crash because it can't find the symbols anymore.
>>102152236weak symbols exist, but sure, I guess I can't expect nocoders to do that
>>102152196are you referring to the nvidia-utils, or egl-wayland?
>>102152289They're talking about the utilities. EGL Wayland is Open Source but that doesn't help you remove the dependency from a closed source blob linking to it.
>>102151935I'm trying to dual boot linux and windows but whenever I try to access the windows partition through a file manager in linux it asks for a password and then says that it failed to open.Do I need a password in windows for linux to gain access to it's files?
>>102152378Is it encrypted?
have and old pc with 4 gb ramwhat is the consensus on init vs systemd?
Can you configure Zathura (or other muPDF based pdf viewers) to draw hyperlink borders? I don't want to use Poppler, but not displaying borders is a deal breaker for me.
>>102152519Which init vs Systemd?
>>102152447No.
>>102152604Maybe you need to enable the ntfs kernel module, or install fuse-ntfs or something
>>102152378try to mount it through the terminal and then see what the error is
>>102152519Completely irrelevant.
>>102152519Your init system will not impact your system as much as the graphical interface you are going to slap on it. Stop thinking about it.>>102152378>>102152604You need to properly shut it down in Windows. Windows will sometimes leave the filesystem in a state where Linux will not be able to access it safely.https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NTFS-3G#Metadata_kept_in_Windows_cache,_refused_to_mount
Apologies if this is not the right thread to enquire about this, more akin to networking/sysadmin but whatever. My networking knowledge is not particularly the greatest, here there be dragons, and can be summarised as two-week binge a couple of years ago.One of my friends has a Fedora home server running on a repurposed old machine, it hosts an assortment of services among which are several game servers that the rest of our group shares. I, on the other hand, have my own OpenBSD VPS that I fiddle around with and host some websites and a file repository.Said friend has recently moved and his present ISP is not keen on allocating him a static IP address. I had the idea of having my VPS act to forward connections to his machine whilst he runs a background daemon to communicate any change in their address. Should this more or less work out of the box or would there need to be further configuration from my/his end?
>>102152041can you force AA thru the driver on AMD like you can on Intel and Nvidia or no?
>>102152873https://www.dynu.com/en-US/
>>102152950Thanks a bunch. Would still appreciate some insight on the technical details in the hopes of learning more about network fuckery. Understandable if no one is willing to bother any further, though.
>>102152627I already have ntfs-3g installed. That's what it's called on arch.>>102152631What the hell? It worked no problem.I didn't have to enter a password or anything.Could it be an issue with the dolphin file manager?>>102152687I was getting a different error and now that I mounted via terminal I'll have to reboot to reproduce the issue and copy the error info.
>>102152687This is the error:An error occurred while accessing 'Basic data partition', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/nvme0n1p3 at /run/media/anon/F48C0DCE8C0D8C74: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/nvme0n1p3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>>102153085>>102153184Same error came up in nemo as well as dolphin.I have no idea what I did wrong.
any good videos or tutorials or even books that explain how to use cgroups and slices?something that will let me manage people hogging cpu and ram with their dockers and compiling on Monday?
>>102150019thanks! I might look into linux lite as well, I hadn't considered it.
>>102152183Your DE or WM doesn't really impact your resource usage as much as your software and background services do.So, no, there isn't a big difference.
I have waited for a thread with experts since I have some things to ask. Firstly off I had dualboot Manjaro with winshart 11, winshart finally kicked the bed after 3 years of no updates (I blocked it) and finally I feel chains from my back going loose. So I have 3 things to ask the experts (hopefully) here. I got an (outdated) GPU as a present since a relative didn't need it and never used it before, GeForce 8600 GT and I am wondering if I could use it for GPU passthrough with my main Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, as tech newbie I made a mistake of illiterately buying the one specific kind of intel CPU that doesn't have graphical driver and thus cucked myself out of GPU passthrough and linux for some years. I want to replace winshart with Nobara, do I have to mind something when doing that and could it screw up my Manjaro booting manager? And for last is it save to remove exfat-utils since it disrupts my modded Vita for connection with the PC?
>>102153595Read the kernel docs they're very good:https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.htmlIf you get confused or don't understand something ask ChatGPT. It's very good at explaining concepts like this.
>>102154615>>102153595This is also useful:https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/scheduler/sched-util-clamp.html
I've finally managed to set up an Arch VM with full disk encryption tied to TPM2 and Secure Boot which is also signing PCR values with a public key. Unfortunately, the current version of mkiniticpio has a bug that doesn't copy systemd tmpfiles, so I had to use mkinitcpio-git. Anyway, I'm happy with the result and know it is possible to make a secure system without any inconvenience during updates.
>>102152873You can roll your own dynamic DNS using a bash script and a domain provider that lets you edit DNS records via API, such as cloudflare.Even if you don't know much about bash scripting there are tons of these on github.
>August 30>still no Freedesktop SDK 24.08They're not gonna make it, are they?
>>102154859Flathub beta has it
>>102154528>GeForce 8600 GT and I am wondering if I could use it for GPU passthrough with my main Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650Sure, if you can get the 340 driver and the IOMMU groups on your chipset aren't all stuck together
>>102154940freedesktop-sdk-24.08rc.1 is still the latest tag on gitlab, so it's not really released yet
>>102155332That's why it's a beta. It'll migrate to the regular Flathub repo when it's ready.
>>102155441I'm saying that they only have two days to get it ready, are they really gonna make it?
Wellp, here I am, running Mint on a Thinkpad x280, learning C for a month now too. All because a year ago someone from Heroes of Might and Magic General advised me to use Termux and innoexctract to unpack HoMM3 data for VCMI.You bastard, you magnificent bastard you!
>>102155520To get it ready for what? They can release it whenever they want.
>>102155561The 08 in 24.08 refers to the month, if they release it as 24.09 it would be the first time they would so in at least 6 years
>>102154528>GeForce 8600 GTThat is not UEFI compatible, expect problems.
its apt on ubuntu and apt-get on debian
>>102155864Just 'apt', 'apt-get' is a historical artifact.
>>102155901no what i said is correct
>>102155839???How could GPU be a UEFI compatible?
Can someone ELI5 prowlarr/whisparrI've setup shit but its just sitting there now,i dont get it
>>102156416They have firmware blobs built-in to their ROM which is needed to work with the BIOS and have a proper display out when you turn the machine on but before the OS has booted.
>>102152033>updating to beta of major qt releaseWhat kind of updooter are you? Even stable major qt releases are introducing regression which require manual interventions.
is there like a terminal command that deletes all of the trash and shit i dont needi use mint
>>102157309>i dont needi mean like leftovers from uninstaled programs etc
>can't install a DE without also installing a bunch of bloat>can't remove the bloat easily without breaking the systemwhy is linux like this?
Do you use network-manager-applet?
>>102157309apt autopurge
unar shouldn't exist... and i don't mean that as a diss to the program, but to other archive utilities.God bless the unar developers.
>>102157760worked
>>102157969>Proprietary since acquisition; Formerly LGPLoh my gaaahhhd
>>102157982Linux wins again.>>102157748Yes.>>102157634Because the DE is tightly coupled to the software it expects to have.
I want a vps. Performance doesn't really matter, should have at least 10GB storage, should be located in some eastern Europe mystery country. Usage will be mostly setup testing and sshfs, no legally questionable things. Any recs?
>>102157748No, why should I? If I need network configuration or view details I can just nm-connection-editor. Why have some tray icon when it doesn't really have any use like e.g. a volume icon?
>>102151935bump>>102142918
>>102158034I'MA FINE-A SANK UUUUUUU
Is there some kind of simple CLI program that binds on all interfaces on some specified port and relays all TCP connections and UDP datagrams to some other specified IP address and port? Kind of ssh's TCP forwarding except everything is done on the local host and UDP datagrams are relayed too.
>>102155839I won't be able to use at all or can it be graphical driver for the GUI? I wanted to use the stronger card for virtual machines since I want to game on them
>>102158338run systemctl suspend instead when you want it to sleep, it's probably a cinnamon issue
systemctl suspend
>>102158382Not that i am aware of. This should be fairly easy to implement though, if you want a nice little programming exercise. Or you could write a bash script which uses nftables to do the forwarding
>>102156441plz
>>102158788I already figured it out, socat TCP-LISTEN:8080,fork TCP:10.0.0.1:8080 and a similar UDP command running at the same time does the trick>should be fairly easy to implementI needed it for Termux on Android, I don't know what the compiling step would look like if I were to try to compile it from my PC
socat TCP-LISTEN:8080,fork TCP:10.0.0.1:8080
>>102151043 #I like bodhi Linux for older hardware. I have bodhi 6 (64 bit, 32 bit is also maintained) installed on a ddr2 (4GB) core 2 duo laptop that performs well. I also use Debian and Ubuntu on other machines. I have a little experience with antiX & q4os and would use those for the appropriate hardware situation. I have no experience with Arch based distros so I will not comment.
>>102158463Why even have gui ways to do things if they break half the time?
>>102159130Because the GUI is not supposed to break. Have you tried filing a bug report instead of complaining on 4chan?
>>102156416The BIOS on the card only includes a classic 16-bit real-mode ROM, without support for 64-bit UEFI (no driver). The card will power on, but the motherboard will only be able to use it in CSM mode. Once you get to the OS it can always be used as long as drivers are available, but it can not be the primary card unless you boot in CSM mode, which if I recall correctly also disables booting from NVMe drives (because NVMe drives have the opposite problem, no 16-bit ROM).If you pass it through to a VM you'll also need to boot it in BIOS/MBR mode. Assuming it doesn't shit itself because it predates IOMMUs on consumer-grade x86.In short: you should have gotten a CPU with an iGPU.
>>102159130The os is made to work on a broad range of hardware with little or no cooperation from the manufacturers for FOSS to work well with their hardware. Some manufacturers are better than others with Linux. That being said, there might be some things you can do in Power settings to improve the suspend behavior. Other settings to look at are anything involving lid opening and closing, defaults actions when clicking on power options. Linux gives you a lot of options (too many maybe?).
>>1021592391) Very unfriendly2) A question is a compliant? Actually I can see it, but it was more of a question than a complaining question.>>102159408oic, its not that big of a issue now I know how to do it in terminal but it doesn't really seem to have a rhyme or reason why it happens and when I tried to replicate it, it just never happened.
>>102152906no responses. thought so. fuck you marek you cunt
>>102152906>>102159826You can actually. Use adriconf:
>>102159408To be real, if you didn't buy certified hardware, you have no place to complain when power management doesn't work. All that stuff is very poorly standardized. That goes for any OS. Linux does a lot more to accommodate hostile vendors than any other kernel.
>>102160023That may just be the ugliest GUI I've ever seen.
>>102160536It's better than 90% of GTK apps to be honest. I'm amazed they managed to make GTK somewhat functional. Still it'd be better if it were Qt.
Turbo newb here, on Arch Linux and IWD isn't starting so I cannot connect to the internet.I did systemctl status iwd and was told among other things that I didn't understand:>failed (Result: core-dump)>Process: (code=dumped, signal=SEGV)>systemd[1]: iwc.service: Start request repeated too quickly.>systemd[1]: iwd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.>systemd[1]: Failed to start wireless service.
>>102160506Yeah, I agree anon, I just try to 'plain stuff for easier entry from windows to linux.
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTSsda 8:0 1 0B 0 disk nvme0n1 259:0 0 238,5G 0 disk ─nvme0n1p1 259:1 0 512M 0 part /boot─nvme0n1p2 259:2 0 238G 0 part ─root 254:0 0 238G 0 crypt /Where does the sda drive come from?
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTSsda 8:0 1 0B 0 disk nvme0n1 259:0 0 238,5G 0 disk ─nvme0n1p1 259:1 0 512M 0 part /boot─nvme0n1p2 259:2 0 238G 0 part ─root 254:0 0 238G 0 crypt /
>>102160973ohoh
Should "defaults" always be specified in fstab? Some say it's useless.
>>102160636Someone please. I need my PC for school.
>>102160023if you actually used that jiminez bullshit youd know it was complete dogshit. imagine AA flipping on and off on random frames.
if i have an AMD GPU is GP{U passthrough my best option for VMs or are there better ways?
>>102160636>>102161533>iwdNigga what? Use NetworkManager
I should have listenedI got an nvidia GPU and now I'm finding out some software for it and some setttings only work on X11I should have listened
>>102161920How can I get it now if I can't connect to any network?
>>102162006is iwd the only network manager that you have installed. Assuming it was working previously it could be because of conflicting managers. Do you have a way to connect via wired connection?