The Start Menu used to be beautiful. it's now cluttered to fuck.I just helped my mother set up her new work laptop. It's the first time that I've had a serious sit down with Windows 11. Is it just me, or is it overwhelming? I'm sure that 10 didn't have this much spam on the Taskbar:>Weather/News in the far left.>Start Menu icon that is neither in any corner nor dead centre.>Very wide search menu in the centre.>Several icons for applications on the taskbar>Copilot on the far right. I think the notifications are to the left of it.>System icons and the clock just to the left of Copilot.I struggled to find a screenshot that matched the setup on my mother's out-of-the-box machine. Presumably, everyone changes the defaults.I'm seriously wondering if the Mac users are on to something. Mac has the best defaults out of anyone these days. Either I'm crazy or the out-of-the-box Windows 11 is unbearable.
>What happened to Windows?
>>102157982>Mac has the best defaults out of anyone these daysI mostly agree. I really liked the "global menu" that moves the application menu to the otherwise empty desktop panel like in picrel. I believe Apple did that first. I set up KDE Plasma to work that way and cleared most of the other clutter where possible and I'm about 75% happy with it. I don't use launch icons and just alt+f2 or mask4 to run programs. I hate GNOME/GTK for somehow being the most featureless and yet most heavyweight desktop in existence and much prefer QT but KDE in general feels so cluttered and claustrophobic sometimes. The dolphin file manager really feels like shit to use for me, it's so messy and chaotic looking it's hard to focus on any one thing even though I do really like the split-pane mode and directory specific display settings. There are too many settings scattered everywhere and too many cryptic icons packed in where they shouldn't be in most QT apps. I have Windows 11 on a desktop and it feels somewhere in between a Mac and KDE. It feels kind of disorganized but not too cluttered or ugly. My main complaint with Windows is the constant advertising and data harvesting on an OS I paid something like 100 USD for. I don't even get ads or telemetry bullshit on completely free Linux, why would it be in a paid OS? That's just unacceptable. I can't use my Windows desktop without feeling like a total bootlicking cuck. The fact I gave in and used Steam was bad enough, but using Steam on Windows 11 is too much, it's impossible to enjoy a game with corporate dicks stuffed in me from both ends.>Verification not required
>>102158455>I believe Apple did that firstcorrect
>>102157982in terms of defaults, it's been a shitshow since w10 and it got worse in w11.because ms wants to make money with "additional services".you can still turn all that garbage off. if you're installing windows often, make a .reg file or something.
>>102158158Pajeets just follow directions, you have to keep going down the hole
>>102158902
>weather enabled by defaultyeah just leak my location on startup senpai
>>102158669How much worse is 11 than 10?
>>102158940You guys are going to break me
>>102159331the taskbar is fatter, it takes up more space.the whole gui is a little bit slower/laggier.the start menu is more dumbed down.
>>102159905Dumbed down? It's thrice as complex!
>>102159562You're already broken. You cannot unsee. You are illegal.
>>102157982>Very wide search menu in the centre.Windows Search has always been terrible and useless. Now it's more useless since it includes web results and promoted links along with local results, when most people are just looking for local files. I just use a 3rd party app to search for my files, which somehow Windows cannot do even in 2024.
>>102159331Much worse, in almost every way. I've tried it a couple of times but went back to W10.
>>102160044What do you mean? You can do it in 10. Just disable a load of shit through the normal GUI.
>>102160182ew
>>102160145You can disable the web/promo links but the basic Windows local search does not work well, and is still slow.
>>102157982>The Start Menu used to be beautiful.It's a filled rectangle not a supermodel
>>102160403You're on /g/.
>>102158455I've seen people talking about it in a couple of threads lately but KDE really needs to focus more on global menu support. Especially since Unity has been discontinued and Asahi is opening more Mac users to Linux.
>>102160182Not bad.
>>102160044Works on my machine
