>be European>35°C outside>29 inside>get one of pic related>air hose gets attached to a board so you can fix it between your window shutters so there's no gap>turn it on and set to 20°C>close living room door as well and go take my daily shit for 40minutes>done>go back to living room>this thing has basically created a vacuum in my living room because the room was sealed off and it was sucking all the hot air out>door is blown from my hand>as the air rushes in I literally go flying into the room and crash into my TV which is mounted on the opposite wall>3000€ LG oled now broken>room is cold
>be European>35°C outside>29 inside>don't have pic related
>be European>35°C outside>24 inside>AC/thread
>be European>35°C outside
>>102201339Fake and gay.Also : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point
it creates a vacuum. you need to replace the air from open north/east/west side window. this works best when sun makes your room be really hot even the outside air is decent 27C
I simply bought a 20$ fan.
>>102201339>OLED fag getting owend by random tech he bought before understanding how it worksget fucked lmao
>>102201339Those things are shit. Buy the two house one instead. No vacuum created, air is circulated, no flying into the room. Problem solved.
>>102201428yeah I should have bought a fancy 80€ fan instead of this 250€ electricity guzzling thingthey feel like they do the same thing
>>102201458>two house*two hose
>>102201339those pieces of shit don't work for shit. I had a 10k BTU one barely worked. Put in a 5k window unit and my room turned into a refrigerator in 30 minutes.
>>102201339>be Europeankek
>>102201458NotThatFaggot, but englighten me about worthwhile summer cooling solutions I could be as an euro faggot. A basic fan does nothing but fuck up my eye or being useless while making a ton of noise.
>>102201458The intake air is supposed to cool the condenser. if it is hot then it does not work.
usually i just push the buttons on me theromostat and the house does all the work for me
I put 25m of pipes for split unit. Stop crying.
>>102201527
>>102201339>be me>be Finnish>15c outside>20c insidecomfy
>>102201568The single reason why I'd ever think about moving north to Sweden/Finland
>>102201339>this is alien technology for euromutts
>>102201339Just do a double hose set up?Also get a proper split AC. They are not that much more expensive than mobile AC, and are way more efficient.>>102201512It literally works the same way as split AC. It's just not as effective because it's a single unit.
>>102201623We have these. We only don't have pic related.
>>102201512>>102201494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMIKrW5131s
>>102201623It really fucking isn't, especially not for stores and what have you. It just isn't common for your average apartment or even some houses. Americans refuse to realize that power isn't insanely cheap around the globe, especially not europe.
>>102201631>>102201650works for me. If I used that 50C hot air to cool it again, it wouldn't work.
>>102201669Problem is when that 26C you're sucking in becomes greater than 30C. It's very inefficient.
>>102201677how does 26 go 30. makes no sense
>>102201650Any idea how viable it is to cool down a small apartment without having to buy somethin for each room? The rooms are quite close together so a single set solution would obviously be really neat.
>>102201660ACs are the most power efficient way to cool shit.The reason homes don't usually have one is because it's usually not all that hot.The majority of Europe lives in a temperate climate.
>>102201685Nanomachines
>>102201660Maybe chain stores, MAYBE. I learned not to visit Europe during the summer. Public transit has no AC, every other small business uses a shitty fan thst sprinkles water.I'm not even American. Power doesn't have to be cheap for an AC to make sense. It literally is the most efficient way to cool or warm your house (assuming it is not bellow -10C outside).
>>102201691>Nanomachinesmagnets (in europe)
>>102201669You don't really experience 50C in Europe. These movile units usually work fine in 5-35C which is all you need here.
>>102201691Oh wait I didn't understand. You asked me how would I feel, if temperature outside on east side would raise to 30. But my country never reaches 30. This wouldn't work almost at all. Then a real AC with complete outside condenser would be must.
>>102201704>Public transit has no ACAll the trams and buses in my city have ACt. pole
>>102201718>But my country never reaches 30.Lucky.
>>102201688Sadly that is slowly but steadily changing from the looks of it, at least in my area it is.35c is nothing to some americans, sure as fuck is a lot to my part of the region, especially when it's 30-35c at day over the course of multiple weeks.A 30c summer day is nice and dandy for the outdoor obviously but not exactly fun over the course of multiple days.>>102201704Any store worth their salt has some type of AC going on, not just huge chain stores. Some tiny private store might not have it for money reason of course, but generally speaking plenty in my country have it. Chain stores or supermarkets tend to be insanely wasteful about it though, so there is that.>Public transit has no ACDunno about France and the like but that comes down to the bus/train and such too. Trains are likely to have it at feet level, the question is if it's fucking on/working.>Power doesn't have to be cheap for an AC to make senseI'm far from an expert in this so I'm mostly spitballing so feel free to correct my stupid ass. But I'm pretty sure that people are partly just afraid of the added cost, with power bills rising each year as things currently are in some parts of europe.
>>102201733do they even run on EV batteries, pleb? diesel burner bus is so nasty
>>102201339>>be European>>35°C outsideYou're not European
Which mouth breathing faggot do I trust!?
>>102201714no, its the condenser that goes to really hot. it is the thermal magic sacrifice to be done in order to make evaporator cool.
>>102201870the video on the bottom talks about a swamp cooler, not an AC
>>102201339>nooo you can't have a 300 dollar portable unit for those two weeks of summer a year, you must install the American heat pump megaunit extreme for 20000 dollars, attach it to your house, and have ugly radiators protruding out of your house in six places
>>102201930NTA, but if I owned the place I would definitely take the split. They aren't that much more expensive, are significantly more effective and make barely any noise.
>>102201930They can heat very energy efficiently too.It would make sense for a lot of European homes to upgrade.
>>102201760Trams run on electrical cables of course. Combustion buses are being replaced, but majority are still old models.
>>102202010they are literally mandatory in Germany here now when you build a house
>>102201339>be european>live in an open air prison>seem totally fine with it as long as the people running the prison claim to care about meWhy is Europe like this? Were they selectively bred for this kind of behavior during feudalism?
It would probably be cheaper to book into a hotel for the few days it gets above 30c in Northern Europe or just get in your car and drive around
>>102202097What causes this sort of mental illness?
>>102201760Since he's Pole, yes. Eventually hybrid.
>retard doesn't do any research and gets a shitty single host AC
>>102201339>Be Op>While also being a massive faggot>Grab a random image off of an image search for portable ac units>Type a dumb reddit-tier story>Post it to an anime basket weaving forum>Useful threads slid off of the board as faggot OP yells "WE DID IT REDDIT!">Cracks open and chugs another bottle of s*ylent while dilatingYou need to go back >>>/r/edditCaptcha: 0MGK
>>102201650My old ass hose windows dont really work for window units so I had 3 of the single hose ones, the vaccum it created pulled hot air in the bathroom vent, ok I just closed the bathroom door. Then it pulled hot air in the range hood vent - made the kitchen a sauna, it was insane, finally switched to the 2 hose version which fixed it. Single hose you are just fighting yourself because the hot air will be pulled from somewhere, and make the electricity bill go up a ton.
>>102201339hot temperatures are proven to make people dumber. get an AC unit.
>>102202089To get water heatpump to cool your house you need ceiling cooling (literal opposite of floor heating).
>>102201962i own my house and i will never get an A/C, it rarely gets above 25C where i livewe had like 3 days of 30C this summer
>>102201339I am sorry, but if you have picrelated and did not rice it, you are not allowed to call yourself European and you are a retarded nigger. yes, my neighbors are retarded niggers. but Jesus told me to love them so, here we are.
>>10220233025C outside = 26C inside
>>102202348did what now?
>>102201791
>>102201623What do you mean, mine is made by Mitsubishi.
>>102201458Is this post AI generated
tl'dr I regret not getting a dual-hose AC.
>>102202408there is a higher chance that your post is, nigger
>>102202428rice yours to win your right to be a eurofag
>>102201870>Best>Best this>Best thatnone of them, they're all just using SEO pajeet tactics
>>102201870Just make sure you get a window or dual hose unit
>>102202550there aren't that many in eurofaggot, so you need to rice the one you can get
>>102202550But the person someone linked earlier said the single hose can work well tooooo...>>102202588That's (as usual) my biggest problem really. I'd like to get an AC worth a fucking damn, but which is good and which of those is even available in my region? Like fuck
>>102202348>rice itwhat does that even mean... it's weird enough when I hear people use this phrasing in the context of linux or some programs
>>102201339I'm British, here's my AC. Heat makes me really ill (I've been hospitalized maybe 3 times in heatwaves even when lean 150 lbs) so I got it installed... AC is becoming more popular here now because Brits are rich and just LARP about "cost of living crisis" while getting Mercedes sports cars, the latest iPhone, and going on week long vacations to Spain.
Reminder thousands of people die due to heat stroke in Europe. Only handful in America. Not using AC isnt a pride, its stupidity and poorfag behavior
>>102203591we made so many fucking videos about how to do it and you are still not able to figure it out? fuck you nigger.
>>102202395>Germ*ny 40.3It's been beaten since then with a whooping 41.2 just a year later too>Spain and italy around 47Jesus Fucking Christ the horror
>>102203643>Brits are richTV and BRITISH SOURCES like to differ. Power to you, but sounds like you're one of the privileged / lucky people.
>>102203677>WE made videos on this thing no one knows what it is>I will continue to refuse to explains it because I don't know myself but I want to fit in so fuck you nigger hahaSO EPIC FRFRfam!
>>102201339link me 1 dual hose unit available in the EU, attachments dont count
>>102201339>Euroking>Have portable airco>Have central airflow system>Have no problems when using airco those 5 days a year its needed
>>102203551>>102201870technology connections is unbridled midwestern US autism. I love the man, even if he's long winded.in essence summarizing his video:a window unit (that sticks outside) basically seals the cold part (inside your home) from the hot part (outside the home, exchanging out the heat from your air) with a relatively well insulated (via styrofoam inside the unit) barrier. this also isolates noise from the compressor, which is located outside.moving to portables:a dual hose unit uses one hose to take air in and another to exhaust it. it takes air in from outside, cools it, sends that cold air inside, and then exhausts it outside the second hose hotter than it came in.a single hose unit can only use one hose to exhaust the hot air. since it only has one hose, whenever it's running, it takes in the air around it that it already cools and tries to cool that further. not only is this inefficient vs a stick-in window AC or a dual hose portable, that also creates negative air pressure. that means anywhere in your home that can make up air (cracks in the walls, the space below your front door, chimneys, etc.) wants to make up the negative air pressure by going through those spaces. meaning more hot air intrusion into your home.single hose units work. they're about 40-50% less efficient than a dual hose portable. if you're striving for energy efficiency, one that goes in the window is more efficient yet. especially if you get a U-shaped unit like a midea that really minimizes the amount exposed between the top and bottom window pane.
>>102203724Are those really British people, or immigrants? It's possible I am just privileged as fuck, but I rarely seem to encounter anyone who can't afford air conditioning. Even my dad can afford it and he works at a factory.
>>102203751do you want me to chew it for you, so you can simply swallow it, faggot? are you that retarded?
>>102202395>over 48°CI guess it's save to say those places will reach over 50°C in the next couple years but what then?In 2040 you'll need insulated full space suits whenever you go outside? Summer mass evacuations?
>>102201339How the fuck did you install this on a euro window, I thought it was for burger windows only?
>>102203862>How the fuck did you install this on a euro windowdo you have eyes?
>>102203877Yes, it's not totally clear to me still
>>102201339Be European have AC since 1975 in fucking communist Yugoslavia. Wonder where the fuck the meme of no AC came from?
>>102203832>I love the man, even if he's long winded.I just wish he would stop his stupid ass pauses after his jokes where he decided to make onions faces and look like a retard.
>>102201687Depends how small exactly buy you probably need two mobile units.One is only good for about 25m2.I cool an office space of 50m2 with two mobile units.For ease of installation I placed both units right next to each other and then have fans to circulate the air around the office.This works pretty well up to at least 33C (it never got hotter than that yet since I moved to my current office)
>>102203862One way is to get a board the same size as your window.Open the window fully and put the board where the window would go if it were closed.You'll need to add some clamping mechanism to keep it in place (bonus points if thunderstorm proof so you can leave it in all summer, extra bonus if burglar proof as well)Finally just saw a hole and either stick the pipe through or mount some adapter to hold the pipe in place.
>>102204050>One is only good for about 25m2.Far more usable information I expected, thanks anon!>This works pretty well up to at least 33CAs long as I can somehow manage to get my room around 20c next summer I'm cool, think the worst I had this year was 35c or something.
>>102201339Tape another hose to the intake area and point it outside. A 6" flexible duct hose costs like 10 bucks and it'll solve your problem.
just bought a 2nd hose and some connectors on amazonthanks guys
>>102204168Still wouldn't be perfect because then it sucks in outside air and blows it into the room.So you get a positive pressure inside and once the room is cold you'll lose some of that cold air again somewhere.Ideally you have a closed indoor loop and a separate outdoor intake/exhaust which is impossible if the unit wasn't designed for that.
>>102201339The portable Midea air conditioner is great. Portable air conditioners are great, especially if you buy the right brand.
The market is rigged as fuck in Germany. >Legally not allowed to install a fucking split yourself >Needs to be done by a dude passing a test>The splits using natural gas, therefore not needing a fucking certificate are hindered to enter the market I still bought a 400 EUR quick connector unit and installed it myself. Fuck this shit. Also old farts are like "AC? Nonono not worth it for the two days of hot weather every summer.
>>102203900They use like, weird little plastic things with zips that seal the opening. Before I got real AC I did it. It's not that great.
>>102204763>>Legally not allowed to install a fucking split yourselfIs that really a crime or is it like installing a light fixture where it's basically just you're responsible for any damages resulting from a fucked up installation but retards say it's illegal.
>>102201527based as fuck. I love dabbing on europoors with my a/c
>>102204763Just recently 2 people died in Poland when a compressor in the heat pump they worked on exploded.
>>102205153>in Polandat least no people were hurt
>>102201357Feels bad man. Though I've just gone to the beach during those days. Don't get them too often, thank god
>>102205206Just go to a mall and sit in those open space office shits. Maybe some qt will hit on you thinking you're a rich businessman.
>>102201339>>room is coldWin!
>>102203846the solution is to nuke chinkland
>>102201623That's the most common type of AC used around here.Americans call it a "heat pump" for whatever reason.
>>102202395And to make things worse, the poorest countries are also the hottest.
>>102205475i'm pretty sure regular a/c and heat pumps look the same, but they work diferently, you are probably confused by that
>>102205686every ac is a heat pump
>>102201339>be American>35 degrees outsidepic related
>>102201339>>this thing has basically created a vacuum in my living room because the room was sealed off and it was sucking all the hot air outThings that never happened.And that air hose should be bi-directional.
>>102205686>they work diferentlyHow so? Don't they all use the vapor-compression cycle?
>be south american>27°C max temp during summercomfy
>>102201339>be european>not too poor to get a minisplit>Enjoy 20C inside in silence
>>102205261I don't know if we have those. And don't care for being hit on. Beach is much nicer.
>be Mediterranean>35°C outside>go to the beach for swimming
>>102201339Made up story. No consumer grade device is strong enough to get your disgusting obese ass off the ground.
i just go commando when its this warm
>>102205648>Nothing in britbong land or the Swisscurious that... Swiss I'm not too shocked, UK is weird.>Luxembourg 47.2Holy fucking shit what
>>102201527I love central HVAC so much.
>>102201339>Be european>35°C outside>24°C inside because thick walls and closed curtains and windows the entire night>turn on a fan that's like 3x cheaper and easier to set up>perfectly comfortable
>>102206926>What do you mean you're not living inside of a well build house?
>>102201339>>air hose gets attached to a board so you can fix it between your window shutters so there's no gapHere is where all these pieces of shit fail. Even without leaks, the plastic hose becomes a huge radiator that heats the entire upper half of the room. So there is no net cold gain.Some dude in yt fixed this by buying some isolating roll and wrapping the entire hose with it.
>>102201428Low key /threadJust buy it in cold times. Got a fancy pants brushless motor, metal blades fan for 10€ some autumn because "it took too much space". I let it run a bit to push air southside in my apartment and that's already enough to keep indoors at 24-26, depending on humidity and all that other crap.
>>102201484What model? Just for future lookout.
>>102207356He is lying.
>>102205686Reverse Cycle Air Conditioning, Inverter Air Conditioning and Heat Pumps are all the same thing.They all work the same way: The coolant flow is reversed using a solenoid valve mechanism, so instead of absorbing heat from inside and pumping it out, they instead absorb heat from outside and pump it in. This works even if it's freezing outside, as even freezing conditions still technically have energy in the atmosphere.And just so we're clear: The reversing function is selectable. They also work as standard air conditioners when you need them to.
>>102201339>I'm a retard that didn't understand I was creating a negative pressure room by pumping the hot air out the window
>>102205686Heat pump is an AC with the fluod running backwards.>>102205686
>>102201466>fancy 80€ fanhttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7x0msk
Yet they keep telling we got the bad weather, not them.t. north
>>102203591It comes from people who modified cheap (back in the day) Japanese cars.
Why not use a fucking mini split like a normal human being?
>>102205751>snow isn't yellowFAKE
>>102201339didn't happen, also deserved and op is a faggot
>>102204892>ChemKlimaschutzV >Fines for self installation can be up to 50000€Probably less for a single unit still if your Stasi neighbor Horse wants to piss on your leg you have a problem.
>>102210319>50000€my fucking sides
>>102206520They're not in the EU dumb mutt
>>102201660>power is expensive Have you tried not prolonging a war with inevitable results? Or maybe not blowing up pipes that were distributing you cheap gas?Might help
>>102210871Or to use condoms.A lot of shit would be far more accessible if humanity was not overbreeding.
>>102201493two more weeks zisters
>>102201685i dont entirely understand that pic but because it eventually becomes as hot as it is outside? or do you get it from another climated room that always cools it down to 26?
This fixes your pressure problem.
>>102210871>not blowing up pipes that were distributing you cheap gasYou mean Ukraine?>>102210944The world isn't overpopulated you useful idiot.
ended up making a second hose out of a bunch of cut up plastic bottles and painter's tape
>>102212956Utterly disgusting. At least use a plastic container.
>>102212161Imagine being so mindbroken by pol
>>102201339>>102201357>>102201389>>102201390southern europe?
>>102202395This is reason number two im migrating from southern europe to the british isles
>>102213064they aren't as flexible you are taping the entire box anyway
>>102213040they are likely too small in diameter which could break your ac or maybe even start a house fire
>>102213117What's number one?
>>102214173Catholic culture.I prefer Protestant culture, this isn’t about religion at all. It’s about the structures of society and social expectations as well as attitudes towards work, home life and other things
>>102209744The more you know, thanks.
>>102203907>I just wish he would stop his stupid ass pauses after his jokes where he decided to make onions faces and look like a retard.He understands the average person is retarded and needs a few seconds for a joke to sink in, otherwise they won't get it and they'll complain in the comments.
>>102209162intenditore
>>102214386If something along those lines is really the reason then that is a problem purely on his end. It's still annoying and hell to see whenever he does it, not to mention honestly really cringeworthy.*wait for applause*
>>102214470I don't entirely disagree, the problem lies with his snarky, sarcastic, Reddit brand of humor in the first place. But, it is what it is. In one of his more recent videos he said something along the lines of "please tell me you all understood that joke", which signals to me he doesn't have much confidence in his audience to pick up on when he's being facetious.
>>102214808>the problem lies with his snarky, sarcastic, Reddit brand of humor in the first placePretty much. Thing is that I personally wouldn't care half as much for his shitty joke if it wasn't for the faces he makes while waiting for applause.>please tell me you all understood that jokeI watch his stuff as a "neat to know" kinda thing on the side, so I didn't even notice that. Man that is bad...
>>102201357same here but I just move to the garden and enjoy the breeze in the shadow of a tree. The stones in the balcony are 60C on the surface its quite pleasant to walk about.
>>102210358Yep. The land where we give criminal refugees 1k pocket money when we are deporting them to their home country
>be european>have a basement>basically live there in the summer23 degrees no need for AC
>>102201339>be European>heat my apartment with gas during winter>turn on one of these air conditioners >take a nap>die
>>102201646Window units are fucking garbage buddy
>>102215802Good to know. I wanted to get one since I had a compatible window, but couldn't find it anywhere.
>>102201339Yo mama creates a vacuum
>>102214149nope
>>102216273should be 150mm minimum for common monoblocks
>>102201631I used something like this to convert my single-hose unit into dual-hose.I glued it to the bottom intake vents, sealed it up with clear silicon, and attached another piece of identical hose.A huge difference it made.Instead of the only cool area being just in front of the unit, now the whole room gets cooler.No more negative pressure!
>>102215943if there's enough under pressure and your mom opens her mouth would the air begin to flow through her intestines?
>>102216273not an argument
>>102214149>>102217211a tube attached to a window and aimed at the bottom grille of the AC is not going to be an issue
>>102201631>muh double hoseSingle hose works fine. Anything competently made has an intake on the unit.>>102201870The ones that aren't trying to call a certain cooling unit type "bad" in order to promote a different variant that they prefer or own stock in.
>>102203846The solution is to not care and to stop falling for fear propaganda. Entire weeks in August of all months, as well as today, the temperature has been in the lower 20s in your weird euro units. 70s in real units. This is in summer in a place that's usually mid-80s and the 90s. Same summer where all of July was between 90 and 97 during the day and 70+ at night. Meanwhile everyone's being told that normal summer weather, 80F+, during normal summer months is something to panic about.
>>102217466>as well as today, the temperature has been in the lower 20s1. shut up mutt2. stop lying on fucking 4chins of all places in a thread about COOLING YOUR ROOM
I have a 20€ fan and it's goodIt does smell a bit weird if I let it run too long but well
>>102216586I’m whiter than you Barry. Besides I didn’t say anything about England. If you wanted less shitskins you should have stayed in the eu.
>>102217523>stop lying on 4chanTake your meds, europoid.
>>102201339When buying a portable ac unit. You should get one that sucks air from outside to cool the compressor and blow it back out. That way you don't use cool inside air and end up blowing good cool air out.
>>102205648How do I move to Norway as an American with no special skills?
>>102219953Who pissed in your cereal?
>>102201339>be (rich) south american>install 2 split ACs for $700 each>pay $400 electricity bill every month
>>102219953Rude!
>be european>32C outside>balls so wet nestle knocked the door
>>102215802They are objectively the best as discussed ITT.
Why can't you just get a real AC, I live in fucking Bulgaria and I have two of them, one for the living room and the other for my bedroom. If my poor ass can afford not just one but two of them, you can too.
>>102210319>ChemKlimaschutzV>Regulation on protecting the climate against changes caused by the emission of certain fluorinated greenhouse gasessay sike rn
>>102203832>a dual hose unit uses one hose to take air in and another to exhaust it. it takes air in from outside, cools it, sends that cold air inside, and then exhausts it outside the second hose hotter than it came in.You messed that up just a bit.
>>102222754Yea but you bulgarians are pretty much all criminal and make enough money. Meanwhile we hard working middle/northeuropeans who have to head to our office to sit down our arses for 10 hours straight if not even more for a minimum wage will never be able to afford ACMeanwhile bulgarians just sell their cousins pussy for easy money
>>102222754because it's not easy to get a permit when renting plus you have to pay a professional technician to install it
>>102203903That's because communism works. It's western Euros who lack AC because capitalism allowed Amerimutt vampires to strip their working classes of all wealth and dignity
>>102202369its always cooler inside my bungalow
>>102201339>be EuropeanStopped reading right there.
>>102201339European minds cant comprehend modern technology. >no AC>no automatic cars>no washer/dryerThis is the fate of poordom
>>102201568>Be me>15 outside>27 insidefuck
>>102201339>be European>40°C outside>24 inside
>>102203903>be yugoslav>renovate the everliving shit out of commieblock apartment you inherit from family who got it for fucking free>replace windows for ones that match absolutely nothing else>mount 5 AC units on the outside of the building>no one gives a singular shitLand of the free. G*rman shiteaters ecofascists and their jewish overlords can suck my uncircumcised cock and balls.
>>102225624I have multiple air conditioners and one of them is literally confined inside pic related. I know for a fact this technology has not reached the Americas yet, LMAO.Shit, I think the washing machine has completed. Thank you for the reminder, Amerimutt.
>>102201339ITT: Obese people complain about sweating like the fatasses they are while anyone who doesn't eat like a hippo every day is enjoying the good weather.There's only two or three months of warm sunny weather in Germany, and I enjoy them
>be European>wake up>30°C inside>22°C outside
>>102224695
>>102226275Will you paint your fucking wall already?
>>102226406>I know for a fact this technology has not reached the Americas yetIt has but nobody gives a shit because we know yuropeon appliances are cucked to hell and back.
>>102226473You're such a fucking moron who got BTFO the last time Just shut the fuck up.
>>102206323>be Greek>40c outside>take the day off being unemployed to drink wine and have sex with men
>>102226818But do you have 3kW washing machines?
>>102226780lol, most European countries don't need aircon because there are only 2-4 weeks a year that are hot enough to warrant it. Our houses are built to keep the heat in because we have winter and the countries that have longer warm periods like Spain, Italy, Portugal do have it if they need it and/or they have outdoor spaces in their homes. Now get back in your trailer fatty, there's a building in every town in Europe that's older than anything in the US lol.
>>102226961Whyin the hell would I need that? We have hot water taps for our washers.>>102226978All I see is a wall of COPE
>>102201339>this thing has basically created a vacuum in my living room because the room was sealed off and it was sucking all the hot air outNo, it's cooling the hot air and then sucking that out and blowing it outside. You should get a 2 hose unit next time.Any air conditioner has 2 coils in it. One gets cold, the other gets hot. The hot one needs to be cooled and the heat thrown outside. A 2 hose unit sucks outdoor air in, uses it to cool the hot coil, and then throws it back outside. Meanwhile room air is sucked into the unit, blown over the cold coil, and blown back into the room. A 1 hose unit though lacks the intake hose. It blows room air over the cold coil the same way to cool the room. But then it blows some of it over the hot coil and throws it outside.
>>102226794Not while I live here which I hope is a month or two extra.>>102226818>It hasThen use it. You're not poor are you?>we know yuropeon appliances are cucked to hell and backNigger you don't even have debris filter access on your washing machines.>>102226961Let's be honest we don't either anymore.>>102227018I thought you didn't care about energy consumption?
>>102201458This>>102201494>>102201870watchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCvugR8UNt8tldw Midea Duo 14k
>>102226406>I know for a fact this technology has not reached the Americas yetCorrect. Because we dry our clothes by using heat and then blowing the hot humid air outside. It's faster but less energy efficient. It's also a dead simple machine: heating coil or gas burner, motor, belt, drum.
>>102227468why do you people think negative pressure is somehow a negative?
>>102201339>29 insidelmao imagine turning on AC for 29 fucking degrees. at most a fucking humidifier
>>102227675when you have lower pressure inside it's easier for (hot) air from outside to get in
if you can't do basic things like control the temperature of your house then you live in a shack or are super poor, my house even has humidity control which is apparently space age magic to Europe and I live in SE Asia
>>102227806if you have a problem with AC being ineffective because of negative pressure it's a sign that you need new seals.
>>102226978>most European countries don't need aircon because there are only 2-4 weeks a year that are hot enough to warrant it.I feel pity for Europeans if they think that having to endure two weeks of discomfort is somehow ok, how do you sleep at night when it is hot out? I always keep my house cold at night to sleep. Even 1 week would be too much for me, I would rather stay in a hotel.
>>102227688Comfortable temperature is up to 24C, so if it's hotter than that the AC goes on and is set to 24C.
>>102227928my AC is set to 26. stop being a little bitch
>>102227928I only open the AC when it gets over 30 and I put it on 29 with the dehumidifier. Unless you are running inside your house it's perfectly fine and comfortable
wait... are retarded americans finally using Celcius like normal people?
>>102227954No thanks, I am fortunate enough to be able to afford keeping the room at a comfortable temperature.
>Buying an AC when you have a perfectly working fridge
>>102201339>be european>31c outside>22c inside>AC in every roomget fucked poorfags
>>102201339>29°C to 20°CI wish, the one I bought lowers the temperature by 5°C max and it's 12000 BTU
I have central AC, but also installed a second split AC unit just for my bedroom because I like to keep it colder than the rest of the house when I sleep, anyone else do this?
>>102227018>Whyin the hell would I need that? We have hot water taps for our washers.Unless it's close to the heater it will take a while before water comes out warm
>>102204763>>102210319This is absolute cuckoldry, my shithole of a country must have copied this from Germany too.
>>102205648New Whiteness map just dropped!
>>102219242Become an oil rig worker
>>102227590Heating coil, for hot air, to dry clothes.
I like how many serious replies there are to the part where OP said he got sucked into the room
I have a single hose unit in my bedroom. If I wanted to help it cool more of my tiny apartment should I put a fan in the door blowing in or out?
>>102201339That's why I only buy TVs with a MIL-STD-810 rating
>>102231367Will it even have enough power to cool more than one room?3500W wasn't enough for 12m2 at >32C outside
>>102231410????? What
I modded an additional inhaust tube to mine so it sucks in the air for cooling the compressor from outside instead of from inside. This way there is no vaccuum and the air it just cooled inside used for cooling the compressor.
There is literally no reason not to have an hvac system installed in your home. Even if you don't believe that humans caused it, the weather is getting more extreme every year. It adds value to your home. It allows you to circulate filtered air into your home during times of poor air quality. Just fucking do it and stop being retarded about it. No one is impressed that you suffer in the heat.
>>102227675>>102227904The problem with single hose units is they take the air from the room - air it JUST cooled down - and uses it to cool the condenser before dumping it outside. Then by continually pulling air out of the room it forces air to come in anywhere else it can, which means warmer outside air slipping in through the cracks, which is working against the goal of keeping the room cool. If the room is so well sealed that it can't let outside air in eventually the A/C fans won't be able to overcome the negative pressure and will be rendered ineffective. A dual hose A/C (if you must use a portable) is simply better since it both draws in and exhausts outside air, keeping the room air inside the room.
>>102215299I miss having a basement. For some reason they've fallen out of favor in 'murica.
>>102202395London was 40.5c last summer.
>be European>have lots of sweaty steam hot sex with lithe twinks and femboys due to our better diet increasing the chances to not encounter obese people>drink water afterwards for hydration
>>102230256Sometimes it feels like Stockholm syndrome. There is so much wrong and outright bad with this country, still I love it from the bottom of my heart.
>>102220956Install solar panels you huemonkey.>>102226473Learn what a siesta is, faggot.>>102227980Only doing it because you faggots don't know how2google and never fucking shut up about it.
>>102233873I guess that's good then, I absolutely despise mine
>>102231439https://youtu.be/PxAKU5SKW6I?si=Q_MKATOX2fyz2ZuT
>>102205648Latvia, Romania, Bulgaria are colder than European average. Are you American by any chance?
>>10220135729 is pure punishment
When are Europoors finally going to tech up to having screens on their windows?
It's actually unfathomable how poor and retarded Europeans are.
I set my AC to 25-26c.The main problem is the high humidity without AC.>>102234193the median wage in my country is 50% high than in the us. You probably still have single pane windows and a door that can be kicked in by a toddler.
>>102201580For summers, sure. Another reason is the day round sunlight. It's something I really miss living abroad.But the 3 other seasons -- fuck that
>>102201494just be normal and buy a mini-split
>>102201660>power isn't insanely cheap around the globe, especially not europe.it is if you have nuclear power
if you guys can't afford the electrical bills for AC, why not get solar installed? Solar panels are so cheap now that it's actually cheaper to use them for building material than wood, I built a gazebo in my backyard and saved money using solar panels as the roof, have heard of people using them as fence panels.
>>102234193At least our houses are made of brick and steal and don't just fly to Oz whenever a tornado hits
>>102201339>be European>35°C outside>29 inside
>>102234621yeah China is basically dumping solar panels on the market for free, solar panels are stupidly cheap now>>102234638wow that is some sad cope right there
>>102234572Nuclear is the most expensive, dingus
>>102227261>Then use it. You're not poor are you?Why would I pay more for the lesser option?>Nigger you don't even have debris filter access on your washing machines.Mine sure as fuck does, 17 year old LG front loader.>I thought you didn't care about energy consumption?I don't, it's just not necessary.>inb4 voltletDriers already have 240V outlets so power isn't an issue.>>102229045>Unless it's close to the heater it will take a while before water comes out warmThey usually are. One of the reasons they're often in the basement or garage. Mine is literally on the other side of the wall.
>>102201428you'll want to kill yourself in a real heatwaveyou'll be sitting in your parked car holding revs above idle just to sit in AC air
>actually you need two hoses so you can suck in air from outsideokay but what about the hot air in my room that is there before I even turn it on? where is that gonna go? is it just getting cooled by mixing with the cool air from the AC?oh that's probably how it works, I see
>>102234278>the median wage in my country is 50% high than in the us. And taxes are 50% higher.>You probably still have single pane windows and a door that can be kicked in by a toddler.Only houses with single-pane are old and it's sacreligious to upgrade to uglier double or triple-pane. Old houses also have doors made of old-growth timber and built by Whites so they're actually quite strong.>>102234638>At least our houses are made of brick and steaPlenty of those here but keep coping.>stealNigger detected.
>>102234708>Nuclear is the most expensive, dingusNuclear only has high capital costs, operation is almost free.
>>102234638Bro unless you build a bomb shelter nothing is going to survive a tornado.
>>102201687you can probably just setup an AC in a single room and use a fan to circulate air around the apartment.
>>102205705no, for it to be a heat pump there has to be an internal solenoid to change how the refrigerant flows to pull heat from the outside into the inside.
>>102201357here I got one
>>102227926>how do you sleep at night when it is hot outThis is actually the worst part. I'm in a pretty hot climate and there's been times when I've had to go days without electricity in the summer due to hurricanes and shit. I can handle it when I'm awake. Hydrate often, stay out of sunlight, etc., but having to sleep at night in that weather is just plain miserable. I genuinely wonder how people did it back in the day.
>>102201339>be European>35°C outside>not be amerifat>don't need AC
I must be the only Portuguese person who fucking hate summer
>>102201339>be European>40°C outside>commieblock housing with only one window>45°C inside>mfw I live in hell
>>102224707That's only because you have good insulation, and presumably the outside temperatures cool off to below 26° at night.If you ever get a full week of >26° outside temperatures (even at night), then your insulation will only hold out for so long before it will reach equilibrium with the outside temperature. And at that point, having good insulation is actually a detrimental, because much like a well insulated thermos your home will retain the heat for awhile, even after the outside eventually cools down.
>>102235647I'm in a hot commie block apartment too, except a family moved in the apartment right below mine (I'll let you guess where from) and they cook their EXTREMELY stinky food that you can smell from the street (they're at the 8th floor) and I have to keep my windows shut because even if I open it a little just to check for a second, the room and any cloth in it (clothes, curtains, etc) will stink of their shit until they're washed.I'm not exaggerating. Any time I open the window for a single second and they're cooking I have to go get changed.This wouldn't be that big of an issue if they didn't cook at completely unpredictable random hours of the day and night.Midday or midnight, 4pm or 4am, all equally probable, so I can't keep the windows open unless I'm in the room with half of my attention devoted to making sure I can run to the window and close it as fast as possible as soon as I start smelling something.This has resulted in mold forming in the living room, which was a massive headache to deal with, and it also means that I have to sleep with the windows closed, which means that for the entire summer I'm permanently sleep deprived and can't work or do anything that requires even a little bit of brain, which has resulted in significant setbacks in my life.Every summer I'm constantly evaluating if going to prison for homicide would be less suffering than enduring this.Also I'm poor so I can't move or get AC.
>>102217466As a Leaf who is forced to learn and understand both systems, I love Fahrenheit so much more for discussions like this because it perfectly ranges from0F - Miserably cold (about as cold as most people will ever experience)100F - Miserably hot (about as hot as most people will experience)As a scale, it is really nice for measuring and discussing ambient temperatures experienced by humans.
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>>102235868>then your insulation will only hold out for so long before it will reach equilibrium with the outside temperature. And at that point, having good insulation is actually a detrimental, because much like a well insulated thermos your home will retain the heat for awhileJust open some windows in that scenario if you want the heat to be released.
>>102231053Yes, anon. Hot air dries things faster than cold air.
>>102201631>polystyrene board>dual hose>duct tape in hole for frictionmy man
>>102213064Here's my setup, found just the right size plastic container, and made an adapter for a hose from foam board. Though this only works with units with flat intake at one side. It has held up perfectly for 5 years, the aluminum tape adhesive is super strong.
Even most third world shitholes (SEA/LATAM/MENA) have widespread air conditioningEuropeans are just retarded
>>102237401Those countries are also way hotter than even the hottest European country
>>102233914>Install solar panels you huemonkey.I actually looked into it. They want 10 grand to lower my power bill to $200. It just costs too much. They gotta make the panels cheaper here before I consider it.
>>102201339>be Eurofag>murdered by an air conditionermany. such. homosexual. cases
>>102226473t.turkroach
>>102237770Good for you communist faggot
>>102225641literally thisfucking ugly efficient commieblocks
Imagine being so much of a pussy that you need machines to cope with normal fucking weather.
>>102225624it's a climate thingAmericans live in warmer climate than most europeans
>>102238337That's underselling it. Weather in US is way more extreme than in most of Europe. The mountain states will go below freezing in the winter and then turn around and have 100F heat waves in summer. That's probably the most extreme example, but wild weather is common here. The only real exception is California.
>>10223832345˚ is not normal fucking weather where I live yet it happens. Go jump in a volcano califag.
>>102237770>They want 10 grand to lower my powerWhat a scam. >>102234685 and DIY.
>>102238616>waaaa I get to sweat a little bit save me AC daddy my ancestors couldn't possibly survive this living hell
I love the sound of jet engines next to my ears
>be me>20° outside>500° inside>i left the oven on
>>102201339>35C outsideit's never that hot in the parts of Europe that matter (north)
>>102201339These useless loud pieces of shit have been obsoleted by the portasplit thoughbeiteverStill sucks compared to a permanently installed split, but infinitely better than those.
>>102238337Dumb.
>>10220133935 d outsideSit outside and bask in the sunEnjoy life by not being a sissy0 d outsideSit outside and enjoy the chilly airEnjoy life by not being a sissyBuild some mental resilience, lose weight and build some brown fat. Also learn to breathe properly
>>102201339You're inside weirdo, just take your clothes off. Or alternatively work outside when it's 35°C outside and you'll get used to it.
>>102227926Keep the windows open in the morning and the evening and keep them closed during the day when it's hotter outside than in. It's pretty much that simple and it makes more sense than a) knocking down our houses (which are generally older than anything in the US) and rebuilding them or b) spending money on an aircon unit that uses loads of electricity and would only be used for two or three weeks per year.I will admit though that our infrastructure will likely have to evolve in the coming decades as climate change becomes more and more of an issue.
>>102238846looool that's what get's me about people that can't function without AC as well. What do you think people in the warmest countries in Europe do during the few weeks when it's too hot to work outside... They go home and have a nap or chill out and then work go back to work after around 16:00. Ask anyone who works outside in Italy, Spain, Portugal, South of France, Greece etc.
>>102238846>>102239817>i need to be uncomfortable and lazy when it's dangerously hot just to flex on /g/Sure sounds to me like you're the crybaby.>>102239785>Keep the windows open in the morning and the evening and keep them closed during the day when it's hotter outside than inOnly works when there's actual cooling at night. I've had to endure 35° nights.>spending money on an aircon unit that uses loads of electricity and would only be used for two or three weeks per year.It's called a heat pump you fucking moron. It does both.
>>102239330I wish we could get these in America. There was a company in Canuckistan that briefly sold them.>>102239357Retard.>>102239631Working in that high of a temperature is miserable. I've done it quite a bit this summer in trailers that were hotter than that. Doable, but absolutely miserable.
>>102239817Those countries have houses built for the heat, with thin double walls that keep the inside cool. Other countries have ovens instead of homes. It's time to emigrate.
Have you tried moving to an area that agrees with whatever your body likes? Obviously you don't belong in the place you try to inhabit.
>>102217466Lmao lying mutt, tldr and no rebuttal but enjoy your free (you)
>>102240542Mass migrations are just beginning, yes.
>>10224054290% of people dont move from 50 miles of their birth place
>>102240542I'm not a bird to fly north-south every single year.
>>102239330not sure if i would be allowed to install this myself regulatory someone could get hit by it under the window
>>102240945The two pieces are permanently connected by a rather strong connection with the coolant pipe, would take quite a bit of force to actually separate them considering doing so would make all the coolant leak out.I put mine in a balcony when I rented a place that did not allow installing a proper minisplit though.
>>102239744Cognitive abilities measurably decline starting from 25C, even if you don't feel any discomfort. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34324229/Not an issue for blue collar grunts I suppose
>>102241120Maybe if we made inner urban schools into refrigerators we'd have a generation of nogs that can act at a minimum level of civility.
>>102241120Read up on what includes cognitive abilities and think again.
>>102201493>be Europeanwhat's the alternative?
>>102203643>Brits are richlol
