>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped>12VHPWRDO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERSFully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt. https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL RefreshInstability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.>CPUSHTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3DMulticore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU>GRAPHICS CARDS1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti SuperAmateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090>RAMDDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32>COOLERSStandout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/>PSUSA new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliantAim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system loadhttps://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>SSDSWD SN850X 2TBAvoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDshttps://ssd.borecraft.com/>MOTHERBOARDSGood power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and aboveDon't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset>GAMING MONITORSDell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URXhttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4DPrevious: >>102442831
>>102452164>Amateur productionGo fuck yourself
Black Friday or wait for RDNA4?
>>102452233>Black Friday or wait for RDNA4?it's going to be both, RDNA4 is Q4. They haven't changed the plans since last investor call.
Best AMD CPU single core performance out of the X3D series?
>>1024523177800X3D I guess?
did i fuck up
what even is the point in building a pc now we know that jews can detonate every capacitor on your motherboard and gpu, set psu on fire and kill you in process?
>>102452010>>102452010>Get a 4060 bruh!No. After the separation between EVGA and nIggeria, fuck them. They had a good thing with EVGA. Fuck nVidia. I really wish I couldve scored a w6600 for $100. But hey, I'll take what I can get. Arc is going places, but sellers are beyond autistic with second hand prices
>>102452393EVGA doomed themselves over ego.
when do we get new gpus
thinking about getting a 7900xtx
>>102452393>muh brand drama
I'm huffing hopium that the battlemage arc cards are going to be good and reasonably priced.
Why won't these retards release a 280 or 420mm aio if they already make 140mm fans AND they make cases that allow 420mm rads?
>realising I should get 3600 ddr4 sticks instead of 3200>don't have the option to get Kingston Furys>Corsair Vengeance are available They seem nice. Are they as reliable as Furys?I trust Corsair generally.
Why avoid AMD cards?
>>102452555corsair vengeance heatsinks are really nicethe memory chips used are a lottery like most other brands so ymmv but most late ddr4 chips are good other than samsung c-die and d-die
>>102452345just buy a metal case that is capable of containing the explosion
>>102452582I get $2 everytime I manage to convince someone here to get a NVIDIA card
>>102452655Kek
do i really have to pay that many dollars for a fucking gpu?why is it like this.
>>102452679Crypto mining and now AI
>>102452345I already had my PC built in a blast-proof enclosure so I can set off the thermite at a moment's notice.Not my problem.
>>102452688i don't get why they preserve value so much now. you could have (in reality) bought a new GPU as soon as it released, and get back almost all the value of it selling used. which is nuts. there like no cheaper on ebay.
>Poland; 4000 PLN; only box, no monitor or mouse etcI am planning to build PC for son. He mostly gaming. Can anyone help me build it?Also, he said he wanted an nvidia card, but I don't know how AMD cards compare these days.
>yesterday my B650 Steel Legend arrived >excited to carry out unboxing >that silver white color >these heat sinks >everything is great as expected of ASRock >I open the CPU socket to check the pins >...>black curly hair tangled in the pins >"Made in Vietnam"They fucked my motherboard before me didn't they?
>>102452164Is there a real big difference between CL30 and CL36 at 6000? My combo is Rx7800xt and 7600x
>>102453042what shithole do you live in anonmy b650 SL from dospara was pristine on the first unbox
>>102453016If he wants Nvidia, you should probably get Nvidia. Otherwise he'll complain you screwed him over if anything goes wrong because you got him RadeonTeens will do that, I'm sure you know
>>102453016We don't have a price comparison site for Poland so this will be a general estimate. With 4000zl you're looking at a last-gen DDR4 build with a 4060Ti-class card. Nvidia's offerings under $600 are pretty poor right now but I agree with him that they're probably the better option unless he's decently tech-savvy.Here's an example build to give you a general outline. The actual components will vary based on local pricing and availability. Be sure to shop around for the commodity parts (case, SSD, RAM, & PSU).https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mKpsyg
>>102453016call him a faggot and beat him for wanting to suck Jensen's dick
>>102452345Jews didn't detonate any capacitors. As far as I know they put up to 3 grams of explosives at the factory and the end users don't open devices when buy them.This is why you should build your PC part by part yourself, observing every component.
>>102453054Not in general performance, no. The main difference is that 6000C30 kits are all Hynix while C36 kits are usually Samsung. Hynix ICs clock higher and are generally more stable at these speeds but that matters less when you're buying a bundle and don't intend to manually OC.
is ryzen 7 3700x worth upgrading for a ryzen 7 5700x3d?
>>102453247absolutely
>>102453247yes
>>102453016It's doable, I guess.Feel free to downgrade the case if your kid doesn't care about gamer LED bling (he probably does).Pickest the cheapest-on-xkom component that's still by a reputable brand in each category so don't get attached to specific brands or models.You can add more storage, RAM and a better CPU later if you need it.
>>102453155I wanna buy a pretty lil vengeance rgb so xmp on amd anyway. Its like a 5fps diff? Cl36 fineee then?
>>102453297cl36 uses pseudo stable samsung ddr5i highly recommend sticking to 6000cl30/32 kits just to avoid potential stability problems
>>102453257>>102453268i'm just confused. I'm comparing them, but the only big difference im seeing is l3 cache.
>>102453322memory performance is everything in gamingand ryzen 5000 has much higher clock-for-clock performance than ryzen 3000 (19% better)
Should I get a 4060 or a 7600
>>102453016dadanon you should build it with him after you buy the parts, it will be a really nice bonding experience.
>>102452164this shit look like goldenrod city
Intel promised me a 20Ghz CPU by 2013 in 2001.Where the fuck is it?
>>102452164how much am I looking to spend if I want to build something from scratch that reliably runs new games like wukong or space marine on at least high settings at 1440p 60fpsall build suggestions welcome
>>102453360>14900k>8x5.7ghz+16x4.4ghz>116ghzbe grateful theyre giving you a 116ghz processor, antisemite
>>102453121On one hand yea, but on the other if AMD would be better price/performance and has good driver support, I doubt he would complain that much for long.>>102453133Thanks for this I will look into it deeper. Looks promising.Is AMD under $600 better option? From what I seen in OP most of AMD cpu and gpu are in budget category.>>102453283Thanks for extra effort to use zł. Looks good. AS for leds I will probably use the ones we have so no worries but thanks. And, yea, I see it would might need an upgrade.>>102453349I def will. Cheers
>>102453443>has good driver supportThis is where AMD will screw you over eventuallyDoes your son play lots of esports/competitive shooters? Nvidia Reflex is big for those games and while AMD has Anti-Lag 2 (after the disastrous prior implementation that got you banned from games), it's only available in Counter-Strike 2 right now
>>102453443AMD CPUs are plain better for gaming in the upper price segment, but in the lower end Intel has more choices and is actually somewhat better value.If you budget was 500 PLN higher I'd recommend getting a low end AM5 AMD CPU so you can upgrade to an X3D later down then line.
>>102453401bout 1200-1500$
>>102453319Ye but if im just running XMP, will there be a big difference?
>>102453600performance wise not really.otoh stability is binary. either your stable or your not
>there are talks of nvidia announcing the blackwell release>there are talks of nvidia announcing the blackwell release>there are talks of nvidia announcing the blackwell release>there are talks of nvidia announcing the blackwell release>there are talks of nvidia announcing the blackwell releasealright it's been months now when is it releasing?
>>102453681next year for consumer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJZ6ndDACG8SNOY PSSR is so much better than AYYMDEAD FSR garbageHow will AYYMDEADPOORFAGS ever recover from this?
>>102453737>fsr4 coming soon8800xt looking better every day
>>102453681Before the end of the year for 5090 & 5080The rest after CES 2025
>>102453737FSR 4.0 = PSSR
>want to get RAM>can't find the ones I want on the compatibility site of the motherboard >partspicker shows they will be okWhat do I do? Can ddr4 RAM be incompatible with a ddr4 mobo?>ram: CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18>mobo: MSI B550 Plus
>>102453789it almost never matters, at least pre-DDR5there are like 3 ram manufacturers out there, you're basically choosing what brand sticker you want on them
>>102453489I remember about 10-15 years ago Radeon had decent drivers, but they either shipped very late, or not as often as they should. Not sure how it is now.AS for what hes playing. Rocket League, CS, minecraft, helldivers is what I know. Probably there are more especially games of the month like dark and darker>>102453507Good to know. 500 extra is no big deal if it gives real value. Especially when it comes to CPU choice, as a lot of parts you buy are dictated by what CPU you get. So this setup could be good, I could change the case and it could work.
>>102453789chances are it will be fine and your bios will have an XMP setting that will work for you >>102453815basically this, there's Micron (Crucial), Samsung and SK Hynix that make the ram chips.
>>102453826Yes. It has something called A-XMP.
>>102452451In compute, AI and HPC, yes, it's going to be damn great achieving 2x performance as seen in the demos already like Stable Diffusion. In gaming? Say your prayers. I expect the only thing that will be better is UE5 games out of the box because of support for Execute Indirect but otherwise, nothing indicates it is going to shake up the market that much more on a performance level. It maybe lessens your want for an AMD card and that will be it.
>>102453737But the PS5 pro uses AMD? What does the green goblin mean by this
Do I need a GPU or can't I use and integrated one from the mainboard? Need a new PC built - but at a budget level. I'm poor.
>>102454209>Do I need a GPU or can't I use and integrated one from the mainboard? Need a new PC built - but at a budget level. I'm poor.Unless you are gaming, integrated is fine.
>>102454292I do play games but it's mostly indie or older stuff. No AAA games.
>>102454329budget?
>>102454353For the full built ~max 300€ want to run Linux
>>102454329youll still require some type of dedicated card unless youre content with playing games at 720p30 with custom ini configs that make runescape classic (actual 2d, not this osrs pretender) look good
>>102454369What kind of motherboard would you suggest?
>>102454367>300€consider stealing one instead
>>102454367that'd be hard, which country?I assume that's just the PC and not the monitor etc.
>>102454451G*rmany got my monitor and HDD already
>>102452164give to me straight ladsis the 7900 XTX a better buy than the 4080 Super?
>>102454462only if you main linux
>>102454494i am planning on switching to linux once I build my new desktopthe 7900XTX has better performance than the 4080Super on linux?
>>102454462>is the 7900 XTX a better buy than the 4080 Super?No. They are neck-in-neck price and performance wise. But at that level you might as well get the card capable of good RT/PT performance even if you don't play games that use it right now just as a fringe benefit. The 7900 XTXX is too expensive, maybe when the RDNA4 (8800 XT) launces either in October or after CES in January it'll act as a boat anchor to drag down the high-end of RDNA3 to reasonable levels.
>>102454462>>102454504>>102454512>24GB Why is 7900 XTX considered bad?
>>102454520AMD
>>102453737>>102453751Why don't modern games have 8x SSAA
>>102454512>The 7900 XTXX is too expensiveeven if I can get it for 100€ less than the 4080 Super?>RDNA4 (8800 XT)this a thing?any specs?>launces either in October or after CES in Januaryhope it's this yearafter 1 year, I don't think I can waitfag past black friday...
4070 super with 7600x R5 good enough if I don't wanna upgrade pc for another 10 years?
>>102454558>even if I can get it for 100€ less than the 4080 Super?I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was that discounted over the 4080S in the EU. If so, yeah get the XTX then.>any specs?https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-8000-rdna4-graphics-card-with-56-cus-and-16gb-memory-appears-on-geekbench>Before diving into the specs, it’s important to note that we don’t know how advanced the development of the RDNA4 GPUs is. The GPU in question could be a qualification sample or still an engineering sample, meaning it might not feature the full specs or clock speeds expected from GPUs in later production stages.>The RX 8000 GPU in the Geekbench entry shows 28 Compute Units, which in this case refers to Work Group Processors (WGPs). This number should be doubled to determine the actual CU count, so this RDNA4 GPU likely has 56 CUs and 3,584 Stream Processors, assuming AMD hasn’t changed how cores are distributed. Additionally, the GPU has a clock speed of 2,101 MHz, which is relatively low compared to expectations. This highlights the importance of recognizing that this might not be the final version of the silicon, though. >Additionally, the Geekbench leak confirms that the GPU will feature 16GB of VRAM.They are aiming for $500 or less which would have second order effects on the more expensive higher-tier cards.>hope it's this year>after 1 year, I don't think I can waitfag past black friday... https://www.club386.com/amd-radeon-rx-8800-xt-launch-could-be-as-early-as-october/Same, no matter what I don't think it's worth waiting past October.
>>102454459https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JfB3KXbest I could do, you're probably better off looking for a GTX1060 6gb used and going with a better CPU
>>102454621>4070 super with 7600x R5 good enough if I don't wanna upgrade pc for another 10 years?If you don't want to upgrade for 10 years I'd suggest either getting the 7800X3D when it comes back down to Earth in pricing or a 14700K or it's Arrow Lake equivalent when it comes out in October. GPU is a crapshoot since we have no idea what the specs of next-gen of consoles will be when they come out in 2-3 years that will govern graphics for the remainder of the decade thereafter.
>>102454635wait Linux so same advice but a used RX580
>>102454635Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities. See details below.
release arrow lake already aaaaaahhhhhh
>>102454690yeah its just bios crap
>>102454701>>102454635I don't need a case. Planning on using my old Cooler Master one unless it's not comapitble.
>>102454711>>102454701and I got a relatively new cooler master power supply
>>102454694even if it releases today, you'd still have to wait until november or december to get the new 9000-10000mt/s cudimm ram sticks
>>102454633thanks>They are aiming for $500so in terms of performance it will like what? a heavily discounted 7900XT? perhaps closer to a 4070 ti super?
>>102454711>>102454733oh in that case, guess what.you can get on AM5.https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wrbgRK
>>102454738>so in terms of performance it will like what? a heavily discounted 7900XT? Essentially.
>>102454762What kind of electricity costs am I looking at with this CPU compared to the other one?
>>102454786they're both 65W, this is a lot faster
>>102454738>a heavily discounted 7900XT?and with stronger RT, leaked by sony
>>102454796What do you think about this one?https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_amd-5600x-prozessor-mit-boxed-k%C3%BChler-94002823.html
>>102454810no integrated graphics
>>102454813So AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor has an integrated GPU?
>>102454829yes, it has a 740M integrated graphics, roughly a GT1030the 5500GT igpu is slightly weaker
why is this thread always so active lmao like yall get a new PC every other 2 weeks? like nigga I have been using mine for +4 years and works just like the first day
>>102454920>>102452655
>>102454920there's millions of people using 4chanif we assume a quarter of them use pc & a quarter of those replace their pc every 5 years, that's 34 people a day. If you assume even a quarter of those come here that's like 8-9 a day. Every one of the people that comes here likely makes multiple posts & some people are just here to help others
Why should I not just get a steam deck that's $300 right now and permanently use it docked
>>102454621>10 years?Ti Super
>>102454976>Why should I not just get a steam deck that's $300 right now and permanently use it docked
>>1024546214090 + 7800x3d
>>102454976You could build a better pc for that price.
>>102454960>there's millions of people using 4chanWhat a nightmarish thought.
5700X3D or 5900X for an AM4 upgrade? Assume they're the same price.
>>102454960>there's millions of people using 4chanthere are like a few hundreds posters here in g at most
>>102455065for gaming? 5700X3D
If graphics have peaked then it’s safe to go for 8GB VRAM right?
>>102455065If gaming, the 5700X3D (cheapest ordered via AliExpress). If gaming isn't priority #1 then the 5900X.
>>102455078Graphics peaked like 20 years ago, 1GB VRAM is overkill.
>>102455078>If graphics have peaked then it’s safe to go for 8GB VRAM right?Graphics have peaked, game unoptimizations have not. Games that look like they were made 5-6 years ago, have higher VRAM requirements than ever because of poor coding and trash engines like UE5. If you are playing at 1080p you might getaway w/8GB in less demanding titles for the next 2-3 years until new consoles hit but if you play at any higher resolution or AAA titles 12GB is the minimum now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4En-2PzOUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd1pzPgLlIY
>>102455082>cheapest ordered via AliExpressWhy'd you do that
How can a slight upgrade boost a game's fps so significantly? I don't see many benchmarks for my Ryzen 7 3700X with Valorant, but I'm seeing over 500+ fps with this cpu
>>1024551425 years in hardware sphere isn't a slight upgrade
>>102455139The 5700X3D is a special case that AMD dumped a huge inventory of them in and around China for their consumption at substantial discounts so they are available for purchase as a result at abnormal discounts compared to more modern/in-production chips.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZKscf/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-3-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100001503wof^$200 ordered by regular e-tailershttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806921974699.html^$135 (48% off) with many other listings clustered around ~$150I have checked other CPUs and there isn't nearly the delta in pricing we are seeing with the 5700X3D (in some cases AliExpress lists the same chips for more than domestic). So it's specific to the 5700X3D and how AMD dumped these defective 5800X3Ds (which is what they are) over there.
>>102455142basically the X3D offers so much cache the processor doesn't have to go out to ram as much
>>102455184>AMD dumped a huge inventory of them in and around China for their consumption at substantial discounts so they are available for purchase as a result at abnormal discounts compared to more modern/in-production chips.Really? I thought the cheap cpus are a money laundering op
>>102455142im getting about 150+ with my ryzen 7 3700x. I don't think the slight single core increase on the 5700x3d would do that.
>>102455184In my country the difference is ~20 bucks and it takes over two weeks to ship.
>>102455142page?
>>102455197When you consider that even fully function Ryzen chips are already defective/bad bins of EPYC chips that AMD pawns off on suckers in the Enterprise/Data Center market the 5700X3D is a defect part of an entire defect binned lineup, essentially the piper cleaner of silicon inventory from AMD just to get rid of them at some manageable margin instead of outright destroying them. As long as they get something for these CPUs they don't care about how much or little they sale for and have said as much public ally in just the past week:https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/ceo-lisa-su-says-amd-is-a-data-center-first-company-dc-revenue-topped-dollar28-billion-last-quarter-over-4x-higher-than-its-gaming-business-sales
>>102455036>>102455068>As of 2022, 4chan receives more than 22 million unique monthly visitors, of which approximately half are from the United States.
>>102455218cpubenchmark
thoughts?https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GhbgRKr
>>102455198>>102455142>check benchmark vid>50-100% higher FPSliterally what the fuck?
>>102455280The page you requested could not be found.
>>102455142The 3D cache fixes (or at least it's a crutch for) Zen's main bottleneck, i.e. Infinity Fabric being a pile of shit. The reason why it applies to games especially, is because games are fairly simple, where you have a limited set of variables that have to be updated every single frame/tick. If that working set can fit into the cache, you get the bigspeed. If it doesn't and it spills over into RAM, you don't get the bigspeed. Most productivity workloads are more complex compared to games under the hood, and don't get the cache boost.
>>102455215>In my country the difference is ~20 bucks and it takes over two weeks to ship.Then it's a judgement call if two weeks is worth saving $20 or not (considering how many years after receiving it that you'll keep this CPU for).>>102455198The jump from Zen 2 to Zen 3 was abnormally good for AMD in terms of single core & IPC gains for games, and the inclusion of more cache is extremely well leveraged for games because the code data if it's very large can just sit in the CPU to execute commands and calculations without having to do a roundtrip to system RAM that really helps FPS minimums and frametimes compared to the non-X3D chips. So it's a compounding effect of both.
>>102455280If you meant https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GhbgRKwhy even bother making a post if you're just gonna throw together a dogshit list as a joke
>>102455280>>102455298oops, I retardedhttps://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GhbgRK
>>102455323sorry I am a console gamer I dont know much :)
>>102455341#1 Do not pay for Windows go visit >>102443314#2 What is your total budget?#3 Do you need WiFi?
>>102455280>>102455341You're basically massively overspending on all parts, and underspending on CPU and GPU and monitor. Especially the SSD, Cooler and mobo. GPU is overpriced top of the line model as well. You would be better off spending that extra monitor on a 4K monitor and a 4080 Super.
>>102455341>buying windows in the Year of the Hijr 1446
>>102455366Also#4 Is this a pure gaming machine (like a console but more expensive) or will it be doing other things like 3D Rendering, Video Editing, etc. also?
>>102455366It's okay friend, the PS5 pro is coming out soon and is way stronger than any PC anyone can build anyway :)Just get that and game away!
I love cooking mushrooms with fresh onions and garlic so much.
>>102453322They're different architectures. Don't compare specs, compare performance.
>>102455256So it is just indians arguing with burgers. Two groups known for rational thought.
>>102455417saar do not eat the deep fried icecream
>>1024553821 ok thank you2 around 2k usd3 no I will use LAN only4 yeah its mainly for gaming only>>102455392ok thank you I will consider this
>>102455484were you actually not trying to shitpost?The odds of it being a serious post seemed so small
>>102455417burgers should stfu and learn from the largest democratic country in the world desuu
>>102455484What is the price of your monitor you are getting since it doesn't show up in >>102455341 ?I have two options for you:1. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hjYGWt^AMD Zen 4 + DDR5 = 2833.27 AUD2. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9bnvHG^Intel Alder Lake + DDR4 = 2691.45 (pictured)All other parts above are the same. Since this is purely a gaming machine you want to spend the minimum amount possible on the CPU just making sure it won't bottleneck the GPU and throw half or more of your total budget to the GPU to be as beefy as possible. The AMD Ryzen 7600 is basically equivalent to the Intel i5 12600K but slightly faster by 3% or so at 1440p but requires more expensive DDR5 ram which is why a build using it costs ~140 AUD more. See here:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/19.htmlI'd pocket the savings if it were me, that's more a judgement call for you to make.You were overpaying for Mobo, Cooler, RAM, SSD, Case, and Power Supply that I brought down to sane levels and took some of the savings and upgraded you from the 4070 Ti Super to a 4080 Super instead.Also those are terribly overpriced headsets. Getting a quality pair of headphones and a microphone will be cheaper and have worlds better audio quality.
>>102455630isn't it much better to either go zen 4 or wait for the new intel gen? Seems so odd to build a 2000$ system with a 12000 series cpu and ddr4
Day 532 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>102455659>Seems so odd to build a 2000$ system with a 12000 series cpu and ddr4Only seems odd if you ignore $1600 is being eaten by the GPU as it should for a gaming first-and-only type build.>isn't it much better to either go zen 4 or wait for the new intel gen?Again I've laid out that Zen 4 is faster than the 12th Gen Intel slightly @ 1440p (the differences here mind are exaggerated by being benched with a 4090 that is far stronger and pushes the CPU more than a 4080S will). But it comes at a high platform cost I don't think is worth the entrance fee. As for Arrow Lake it will be slightly faster at best with much lower power consumption, but crucially will not launch at lower prices to be worth considering unless you are willing to increase your budget limit.
>>102455686I just want them out so I can complete my fucking build man. So tired of waitfagging and wish nvidia would do the needful already
>>102455713I'm so fucking glad I settled on the 13600k when it launched, works great with a 4090 at 4k and is so easy to cool
>>102455886The i5s of the 12/13/14th Gen era have been crucially underrated in my view not just as competent gaming chips that won't bottleneck GPUs several orders of magnitude more expensive than they are, but also as all-around productivity/general purpose processors to boot.
>>102455809I'd probably only buy from Nvidia if they have a "come to Jesus" moment and not overprice the 5090.
Has the dust started settling after Zen 5 launch yet?Is it doa?Was it all an intel psyop?I'm honestly confused with how inconsistent the reviews are.If you look at geekbench the 9700X would seem amazing.Is it just gaymers that got shafted?
>>102456063DOA because Zen 4 X3D chips are better
>Has the dust started settling after Zen 5 launch yet?Yes.>Is it doa?Yes.https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/amds-new-ryzen-9000-cpus-are-reportedly-suffering-the-worst-launch-since-bulldozer-thanks-to-disastrous-sales/>Was it all an intel psyop?Never ascribe to malice that which is more easily explained by incompetence. AMD doesn't semi-stand for Another Massive Disappointment for no reason.I'm honestly confused with how inconsistent the reviews are.>If you look at geekbench the 9700X would seem amazing. Is it just gaymers that got shafted?Pretty much, AMD did the absolute most they could with the architecture without it actually being able to improve in desktop workloads. This is because of the increasing divorce between Data Center and Client computing needs. AMD frankly doesn't care if Zen 5 never sales well as it's just wafer byproducts of EPYC production.https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/ceo-lisa-su-says-amd-is-a-data-center-first-company-dc-revenue-topped-dollar28-billion-last-quarter-over-4x-higher-than-its-gaming-business-sales
>>102456063windoze users got shaftedzen5 performs really well on linux even in games
Somehow my old SSD from 2014 "disconnected" from my PC overnight. I didn't touch it or move it in any way. CDInfo says it's 85% good. Reseated it and problem is gone.Is the connector cable dying?
>>102456214possibly, I've had SATA cables go bad
>grab ryzen laptop for not cheap>disable turbo boost>machine doesn't get as hot or loud, that's normal>machine feels snappierthat's not normalAny reason why this would be a thing?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sY2cdH$1800 dollar build, any thoughts on how to improve it?Am willing to go up to $2000, but no higherNormally would've gone with Intel CPU but because of the troubles they're having, I'm looking at AMD instead.Mainly going to be used for 1440p gaming and web browsing.Monitor I'm using is a Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ (Which I already have)
>Utilizing 0% of my credit cards>Credit score remains the same for months>Put $3,000 PC on credit instead of debit for the security>Score skyrockets the same weekOy vey...
>>102456559I'd suggest something more along this linehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/tJ2cdHYou can likely still save a lot on the motherboard if there's no specific reason you picked it.Maybe hold out for 7600x3d
>>102456311>use Medium settings >game is choppy and shitty>turn everything on High>game runs good nowWtf really.
>>102455256All me through different proxies btw
>>102456559you don't need a 500W vrm to run an 80W cpu
>>102456559>Normally would've gone with Intel CPU but because of the troubles they're having, I'm looking at AMD instead.Now that the Microcode patch BIOS updates are out as long as you immediately update your board when doing the build with a fresh CPU it's not a problem now if you want to consider that option.Don't pay for Windows, visit /fwt/ >>102443314For just a gaming system you are best off with a 5700X3D which is basically a 5800X3D on the gaming charts here minus 5% or so:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/19.htmlGet it on Aliexpress here for $135 is the value king ATM: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806921974699.htmlThen you can get 32GB of cheap DDR4 RAM to pair with it.Boosted your NVME storage from 1 to 2TB (there's no real world difference in speed between them).Same spec PSU from Thermaltake that comes with a 10-year warranty vs. 7 on the Corsair SKU while being slightly cheaper.Boosted you from a 4070S to a 7900 XTX that brings your min framerate @ 1440p from 89 to 120 FPS:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/36.htmlCould also swap in a 4080S if RT/PT performance matters to you.Edited list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7HMqR ($210 saved)
rate me rig. 1080p gaming mainlyhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/LN7qxH
>4080 next to a 7900xt
>>102455417the self-awareness
>>102456052with AMD dropping out of the high end race there's zero chance of Nvidia not going full Jew on their future pricing.
>>102456942480 Hz?
What's a build with a measly 4070 super that would require a fucking 850W PSUWould I need a threadripper or some shit?
>>102457727Even Threadripper caps at 350W TDP (and unlike consumer-grade CPUs it actually respects that limit) unless you overclock it. You can easily make do with 750W. That leaves either overclocking or adding a bunch of hard drives.
How much difference in speed can a shitty mobo and PSU make? I had some old shitty HP "gaming" PC as spare computer that was full of proprietary components, I took out the components that are still kinda good(8 gen CPU, RAM, HDD, GPU) and put it on a spare mobo(some old Asrock HD310 or something like that) along with a new PSU and now the system feels overall smoother, and performance in games seems to have increased a bit.
>>102451231>>102451369 (You)>TEAMGROUP 1TB M.2>AsRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4>Ryzen 5 5600X>Solid at this price point.>EVGA 650W Bronzeshould be fine, gold 80+ would be better obviously but this at the very least shouldn't explode.>Corsair 4000D>Why the fuck are you spending $90 on a case when you're doing a poverty build? Get a FD pop air for $50 and put those extra $40 into something else.>ASUS GTX 1060 3GB>Not great but I don't think you could get something better for $80. That said if you haven't already bought the card off him I would scrounge together a bit more money and spring for an RX 6650XT>Crucial 8x2 3200Hz>Get G.Skill Aegis 16 GB(2x8) 3200Hz/16 for $30 insteadThe poverty build yes; I got the case because last time I had a gaming pc with zero airflow I hated how much the PC made my room warm.Actually I want to update my specs, I got a Crucical 16x32 3200Hz for $50 it was on sale on Amazon Day like 2 months ago.I did indeed already buy the GPU off him, I see that card youre talking about goes for $200 used, Im assuming if I want to upgrade my GPU next (soon/one day?), I'll have to go for something $400 used for "future proofing" sake, what GPU would I be looking at? I'm talking January/February when I could buy a new card
>>102458108PSU doesn't impact performance, it either works or doesn't (or blows up, which is why you don't want a shitty PSU).The motherboard though can do all sorts of fucky things with power limits and disabling turbo and whatnot, so quite a lot.
>>102458138fuck i mean 16x2
>>102458138Basic bitch 4060
>>102457299I was going to see how my monitor handled it first and then upgrade if I need to. its only 165 hz
Zen5 the most disastrous launch in history selling even less than oxidised 14900Ks that intel is putting into beepers and walkie talkies
I am considering selling my PC.Not only do I not need it but it is a hazard to my mental health.How much will it go?Specs:>r5 2600>rx580>AB350 gaming>550W PSU Bronze>16g 2400 RAM>3 fan case
how dead is battlemage?
>>102458752bro just upgrade to 5800x3d and 4070ti super
>>102458752$150 to $200
>>102458752I think that's like an absolute bottom tier gaming pc, depends on local market, might get like 200-300 for itA pc with these specs got offers for 225/250€
>>102458843I say 200-250. That is half the price of all specs added.>>102458874I agree.
>>1024588922600 - 20polaris - 50board - 40psu - 20-30-50 depending on the modelram - 20case - 20storage - ???
>>102458752Check ebay sold listingshttps://www.ebay.com/sch/179/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=580+2600&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1>>102456976>gtx 970 next to an rx 5700>>102456942retard/10>>102455114You're not going to play next gen games with 8 GB cards because they're too weak. The VRAM is irelevant. VRAM != performance
>>102458892>That is half the price of all specs added.keep in mind, the price of those parts is irrelevant, both at the time of purchase or currently. What matters is what you can get nowadays & take like 50% of that.For 400 you get this, which is slight step above his build, so the other anon might have been right about 150-200https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jfhzz6
>>102458970>>102458892>>102458874>>102458752where the fuck is someoen buying a pc like this for $200-300?Fake as fuck.
>>102456976It’s kinda cool to buy 7900xtx below msrp after launch and see how it beats 4080 at rasterisation, then 4080S and possibly the next gen of amd gpus, heh
>>102459138A ton of pcs like that are going for 300-400 with nobody being interestedas such, if you actually want to sell it, you have to go under it. Anon said he wanted to sell his pc
>>102454621Look up a graphics card from 10 years ago and find out how well it plays games from today>>10245452024 GB VRAM doesn't matter, retard>>102454209Buy used, for example a Dell Optiplex 7050 Micro>>102453247If you're CPU limited, yes
Should I go for Newegg's GPU Trade-In Credit when buying a new GPU? I currently have an RTX 2060 and they're offering $104. Do you think I can get more if I sell it myself?
A guys failed nvme install that bricked his pcdont do this at home kids
>>102459853What the fuck is this
>>102459853ouch
>>102459922apparently sata power cable sorta fits nvme ssds
>>102459853The nvme is probably dead now, but i dubt the PSU died. Thats an old school xfx, they had fuses per rail. Had the current one im using die on me about 8 years ago trying to overclock my old phenom II hexacore. Changed the fuse on the cpu rail and its still running my media box.Worst case scenario change the psu.
>>102459853I have that psu too
the 7600x comes with nothing. the 7700x comes with an $80 game that i kinda want to get. if i add the price of 80 to the 7600x, the 7700 is 40 dollars more. which one do i get?
>>102460244why not up the budget and get 7600x3d
>>1024602447600 non X or 7700 non X
>>102460264why are you recommending x3d, he didn't say he has a 540Hz monitor and plays games for money
>>102460279either you go absolute budget 7600 or you should be getting x3d for gaming
>>1024602857700 is best value
5600gt+NH-P1, good combo or no?
>>102460340noyou know you can't hear a fan running at 800 rpm?
>>102460340embrace the chinkslop
>>102460340I just looked up the priceit's completely pointless. up the cpu to 8600G and you get actual driver support too lol
>>102459008stfu nvidiot
>>102460264nowhere is selling the 7600x3d>>102460265why non x?
tfw my computer has been stuttering on random games suddenly out of nowhere, especially while loadingwelp I guess its time to upgrade my shit2080 and an i7 10700k did me well enough for 4+ years
>>102460621better either buy 7800x3d or wait for 9800x3d then
Arrow Lake will be doa, it turns out TSMC N3 is just shitZen 5 X3D will be a nothingburger, sub-5% gainsIntel will scrap 18A by MarchChina will invade Taiwan in Maywaitfag suicide wave will hit the news by summer next yearbuy a 7800X3D now or stay slow forever
>>102460669nothing ever happens
>>102460621>why non x?exactly the same as x but cheaper and doesn't get as hot
>>102460642the 7800x3d is sold out everywhere. im going to buy the 7600x and wait for the next line
>>102460690the X versions have retarded watt use compared to non-x 7600/7700
is there any resource to see all current free game bundles on parts?
>>102460761that's a good question.
>>102459853im building my pc tomorrow. what the fuck happened and how do i avoid this
>>102460860read the manual that comes with the mobo and use its instructions on how to install an m.2 ssd
>>102453751Did you mean 8800 GTX?
It seems like there’s a shortage of 4090’s that the other SKU’s aren’t facing, do you think the discontinued rumor was real and 50 series announcement is eminent? https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/rtx4090/full_history/
can i use this psu with a 4080super?
>>102460960It's just Jensen playing games for his sick amusement.
>>102460690> the 7800x3d is sold out everywherein stock here for €419:https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-8x-4-20GHz-So-AM5-TRAY_1490024.html
>>102460641This is my first pass just clicking random shit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GhRm4MI will get a 4k monitor soon after
So many people are buying the 7800x3d after seeing how unimpressive zen 5 is, lmao
>>102461142im expecting all 9800x3d to sell out since the windows 11 nonsense is out of the way
>>102452345just keep your pc in a faraday cage so radio waves don't reach it
>>102461142Arrow Lake will save us
Why did my PC die early this year and pushed me to panic buy a fucking AM4 CPU
>>102461217remote killswitch and/or engineered failure modejust you wait until they invent bio-degradable PCBs, already a dozen startups working on it
How can I quickly verify stuff physically fits in the case? Or do I need to just spend the time comparing measurementshttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/dycpqR
>>102461037>deutchsland like come on
Best monitor for around $175 max? I bought a Dell QHD 100hz IPS monitor for 155 on Amazon US but it arrived with a cracked screen and multicolor vertical lines running through it so I had to return it. It has to be QHD, IPS (no VA crap). It's going to be used for an office so hz doesn't matter as muchdo these people just throw the fucking package on the concrete and rush to the next location or something
>>102461557The main measurements you need to check for ATX builds are the cooler height and video card length. PSU length may be a concern on >1kW units. SFX PSU aside, you've got a very conventional build there so neither one should be a problem.
as long as i get an am5 socket mobo, i can use any am5 cpu, right?
>>102461905as opposed to what
>>102461905if you're getting a ryzen 9000 you will have to update the bios but yeah
>>102461941this msi mobo i want to get says its only compatible with "ryzen 7000/8000">>102461966i guess its talking about bios. it has a flash bios feature. is it easy?
>>102461985theres only ryzen 7000 or 9000 am5 cpus out todayofc if theres 11000 in the future that particular mobo might require a bios update to work with that cpu
>>102452164Just gotta wait a few days for the ram and we are set.
>>102461985If you are putting a Ryzen 7000/8000 in it, you won't have to update the bios and it will work out of the box. If you are putting a Ryzen 9000 on it, then it won't turn on unless you update the BIOS, by putting a usb stick with the file on it and pressing the BIOS FLASH button on the MSI motherboard. Lower capacity drives (8,16,32gb) have higher success rate for some reason. Another way of doing it is temporarily putting a 7000/8000 and downloading an exe, doing it on windows
>>102461777>Best monitor for around $175 max? I bought a Dell QHD 100hz IPS monitor for 155 on Amazon US but it arrived with a cracked screen and multicolor vertical lines running through it so I had to return it. It has to be QHD, IPS (no VA crap). It's going to be used for an office so hz doesn't matter as muchYou can get the Dell G2724D right now while it's on sale for $170:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724dIt's never been lower than $180 since launch middle of 2023, and at this price nothing touches it or can touch it below $400-500:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9ByU6AOd8That all said, if this really is JUST for an office display you can get a 27" 4K @ 75Hz IPS for $170 which will be the best in terms of digital real estate and text/desktop sharpness:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GktLrH/sceptre-u279w-4000r-269-3840-x-2160-70-hz-monitor-u279w-4000r
>>102462178>>102462016im not reading amazon spec lists again, it neglected mentioning its fine with ryzen 9000
>>102462206any decent monitor thats 1440 and over 200hz?
>>102462228>any decent monitor thats 1440 and over 200hz?Outside of OLEDs, the most reasonable option is the LG UltraGear 27GR83Q-B @ $347:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr83q-b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-1zV7MYT4UThe 250Hz WOLED INNOCN 27A1S starts at $550 which puts a hard ceiling on high expensive and good any high-refresh LCDs can ever get since their slow response times will never let them fully resolve a 200Hz+ Refresh Cycle with 100% compliance anyway.
>>102462206thanks anon will try and get the dell G2724D when they refund me if the sale is not over by then
does removing the sidepanel hinder temperatures or improve them
>>102462340Forgot the PCPP link: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6WBzK8/lg-ultragear-27gr83q-b-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr83q-bThere are cheaper 200+ Hz 1440p LCDs but they tend to not be as well tuned and reviewed as LG's current budget model as far as I've seen.>>102462372>thanks anon will try and get the dell G2724D when they refund me if the sale is not over by thenNP. Might give Dell a physical phone call and explain your situation to them about receiving a borked display from another brand and got recommended this model instead and ask if you can go ahead and reserve an order for it or if the sale is ending really soon could they spot you some credit for it if your current monitor return runs late. Worst thing they can say "Nah, sorry bro."
1440 120hz ish with great colors/hdr or 4k monitor 60hz with great colors/hdrassuming you have the pc to utilize both to their potential, what would you prefer?
>>102462411Improve them but at that point you don't really have a case - might as well run a test bench.
I want to emulate a late '90s era PC(Pentium, Voodoo graphics, etc.) using 86box and/or DOSBox-X or DOSBox Staging, depending on the software.I also have to build my PC on a budget.What would be best for this?
>>102462439never ever buy 60hz anything
>>102462340>>102462431can you check these out?
>>102462462:O
>>102462482 theres 240hz 4k oleds these days
>>102462492are those not going to cost an insane amount or am I behind the times
>>102462503A good opportunity to improve your good go-, I mean credit score.
>>102462503well sure, they're like 1.2k €the cheapest 240hz 1440p oleds go for about 600-700€then the 480hz 1440p oleds are again 1.2k €
>>102462478Got product page links?>>102462439I think 60Hz is a deal breaker in 2024 unless it's going to be a cheap throwaway secondary display for office apps/discord chat/etc. Even an upgrade to 120Hz is night and day as far as motion performance and clarity of the the mouse cursor and dragging windows around in the OS. It also makes the entire system FEEL snappier and more responsive by cutting input lag in half. That's almost like moving from an HDD boot drive to an SSD.
>>102462580I just assumed anything more than 60hz on 4k is an insane price increase , while also getting great colorsI'm behind the times
this thread is shill central, don't be a consumer whore and don't listen to the shills hawking their garbage, you don't need more than 1920x1200@60Hz
>>102462580https://www.amazon.ca/KOORUI-Computer-Adaptive-DisplayPort-Adjustability/dp/B0CC8XKK3N/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3JHDML9G415XP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ar6mWcpRiVYAThNCAWkGNQ23Jm1pRkfnduzjv0BvZfiD1xV4d16qhJmmbKwbksqYCzI_2L6jI4olIyG9tS-eIymEMTv0Gj7ntoLPtAvfolcf27HzxrmvFToGbMDSpdzG8_8ztJJVLc70mYnrMRtR1ZKPVBoKvRlf2XAdy0e617uLhNNpUS0YHb0fEvCqkcRP62GcqEkqskEw_NPQ_j3pyX3Vc-V-TTllr-eo397tnoA1jA-1mRW-8iJxeh1tPX_hREpzk_7qUSuQA4k5g4DOdEYlKxnFVqJ-LOcKsMde8KE.nI0B0D10pHUnRT8LLrrPEqcHJ0xP7_YMBxP_jVH4AN8&dib_tag=se&keywords=1440p%2B240hz&qid=1726782388&sprefix=1440p%2B240hz%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-6&th=1https://www.amazon.ca/KOORUI-inch-Gaming-Monitor-DisplayPort/dp/B0C7QST7XL/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3JHDML9G415XP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ar6mWcpRiVYAThNCAWkGNQ23Jm1pRkfnduzjv0BvZfiD1xV4d16qhJmmbKwbksqYCzI_2L6jI4olIyG9tS-eIymEMTv0Gj7ntoLPtAvfolcf27HzxrmvFToGbMDSpdzG8_8ztJJVLc70mYnrMRtR1ZKPVBoKvRlf2XAdy0e617uLhNNpUS0YHb0fEvCqkcRP62GcqEkqskEw_NPQ_j3pyX3Vc-V-TTllr-eo397tnoA1jA-1mRW-8iJxeh1tPX_hREpzk_7qUSuQA4k5g4DOdEYlKxnFVqJ-LOcKsMde8KE.nI0B0D10pHUnRT8LLrrPEqcHJ0xP7_YMBxP_jVH4AN8&dib_tag=se&keywords=1440p%2B240hz&qid=1726782388&sprefix=1440p%2B240hz%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-7&th=1>>102462686you dont play fps games
>>102462686>1200damn bro I can't afford that extra height
>>102462599>I just assumed anything more than 60hz on 4k is an insane price increase , while also getting great colors>I'm behind the timesNo worries the cheapest 4K IPS right now is actually 70~75Hz for $170:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GktLrH/sceptre-u279w-4000r-269-3840-x-2160-70-hz-monitor-u279w-4000rAnd the cheapest 120Hz+ 4K IPS is ~$300:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N3tLrH/aoc-agon-pro-ag324ux-315-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-ag324uxSo there is still a premium but it's not what was in the dark old days, thankfully. High-refresh OLED PC monitors have really drove pricing of used-to-be "premium" specs down market recently.>>102462686>this thread is shill central, don't be a consumer whore and don't listen to the shills hawking their garbage, you don't need more than 1920x1200@60HzIf you are still using a 1080p display and don't have a lot of spending money it's fine, 1080p-class on a 24" panel size looks alright but I stand by >>102462580 in that once you grow accustomed to >120Hz usage going back to 60hz looks and feels bad.
why indeed, FPS games were impossible to make or enjoy before the advent of gaymer monitors and refresh rate inflationthank you LG and Samsung for birthing a whole new genre into existence
Is a used 6950 XT worth it for $500?
>>102462720Alright the first link for the GN05 is a VA panel. Good for contrast but I don't trust hardly any of those type displays except a select few Samsung panels (and I can't know if this Koorui rebadge is using one) to actually deliver good motion performance transitions coming in and out of dark colors to prevent Black Smearing/Reverse Ghosting which is the tech's Achilles Heel.The second Koorui 27E3QK which appears to use the well-reviewed AU Optronics IPS panel:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0QcQMDUtNM^Turn on CC Subs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEQ0tPgyh4Not a terrible amount of info/reviews on either display available but Koorui as a Chinese brand basically are known for delivering higher-spec monitors at rock-bottom prices in order to eat into marketshare of the Western consumer base.
how do i get a comfy pcmy pc is not making me feel comfy enoughin fact it's making me neurotic
>>102460980If it's not native 12VHPWR, you can use an adapterObviously you wouldn't buy a new PSU without 12VHPWR>>102462686>60HzSad>>102462910No you fucking retard
>>102459853>that nvme hookupwhat were you even thinking
>>102459853>empty slot right there on the board.....what happened here
>>102462910>Is a used 6950 XT worth it for $500?Absolutely not. It is only slightly behind a 3090 which puts it roughly on par with a 7900 GRE and 4070 Super which start around $530 BRAND NEW:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ln4Zxr/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx7900gre-cl-16gohttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/y6dG3C/msi-ventus-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-super-12g-ventus-2x-ochttps://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6950-xt.c3875So you are only getting a $30-50 discount for roughly the same performance on a years old card that puts out a lot of heat/power. Furthermore, the 800 XT (RDNA4) is rumored for October targeting a 500-600$ or less price point but with the performance of a 7900 XT.
>>102462992What's wrong?
i have questions but i will wait until next thread.also i got a 7700x bundle from microcenter for 400$ the other day. 32gb ram and mobo. they have to be losing money on these.
>>102452164How much performance am I missing out if I grab the cheapest motherboard on an AM5?
>>102462910it's almost the same as a 7900 gre
Here's your cpu intelsisters
>>102462742have a rec for a 120hz high quality 4k?
>>102463176None as long as the VRM is robust enough not to throttle the CPU you throw into it (which 95% of AM5 boards are). See here to verify if the cheapest board(s) you are looking at make the cut (timestamp @ 23:21):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUVW7wgR3s&t=1401sIt's really the individual board's feature set that differentiates AM5 more so than nominal CPU performance.
>>102462686as long as you don't play multiplayer fps you don't need more than 60fps. even then you can benefit from the reduction of input lag from just disabling V-sync and let the game run at max fps.the internal refresh rate is what brings input lag.not really the screen itself, not in a noticeable way anyway
>>102462686the human eye only sees at 30fps anyway
>>102463323Outside of 4K OLEDs that curbstomp any LCD under the sun the most well tuned 4K IPS is probably the LG UltraGear 27GR93U-B in terms of high PPI sharpness, general image quality, and motion tuning for response times & overshoot despite it's modest refresh rate:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4YZXsY/lg-ultragear-27gr93u-b-270-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-27gr93u-bhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr93u-bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVuH1f1c_GEIt's 500 fucking dollars right now though which is too damn close to the entry point of OLED in my point to actually be worth recommending in good conscience.A more reasonable option for it's performance is the Gigabyte M27U @ 4K160Hz for $400:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dTJp99/gigabyte-m27u-sa-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-m27u-sahttps://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIsvXa4zGgIt's got competitive performance with other 2160p 27" panels at a saner price.For what it's worth here they are measured H2H to see what the extra $100 buys you (hint it's not much):https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-m27u-vs-lg-27gr93u-b/39714/40716
>>102463514Is the 2025 OLED without burnins still on track for release?
Can anyone recommend a mini itx case that can fit a tower cooler, even something like an nh d9l
RTX 50XX series WHEN?My 3080 is getting tired.
>>102463514what aboud mid range oled
>>102463566>Is the 2025 OLED without burnins still on track for release?If you meant using Blue PHOLED to replace the weakness link in the OLED RGB Iron Triangle it's.........complicated. Currently released info is that yes it's more efficient at translating a given power into higher brightness but surprisingly at lifetime of only 55% the current Blue Fluorescent subpixel material:https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1723713570However, LG at least plans to engineer around the issue by essentially gluing blue fluorescent and phosphorescent layers together into a hybrid approach to increase both brightness and lifetime on their next-gen two-stack tandem OLED panels:https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1724330515They are also still on track as far as I know to intro a true RGB OLED at the end of 2025 so we'll see.God knows what Samsung will do for their next revision of QD-OLED (probably something similar as there are only so many ways to skin a cat when it comes to OLED chemistry).
>>102462450Would a Ryzen 5600G work?
>>102463690mid range oled is burned in used ex high end oled
>>102463690>what aboud mid range oledOLEDs don't have the wide range of performance using the same generation of panels that LCDs do.It basically boils down to what size/resolution you want and within that class whether you want a WOLED panel (matte finish, worse color performance and uniformity) or a QD-OLED (glossy not great for environments with uncontrolled ambient lighting but richer picture and better colors/uniformity):https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160,256001440&P=7,9&sort=price&page=1Right now the standouts to me are:INNOCN 27A1S - $550 1440p (WOLED) cheapest PC OLED monitor, periodMSI MPG 271QRX QD-OLED - $700 1440p (QD-OLED), cheapest glossy QD-OLEDMSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED - $950 4K (QD-OLED), cheapest 4K OLED monitorEverything else is niche like the Samsung Odyssey G60SD which is a QD-OLED with a matte coating or a filler SKU that is identical to the above models at higher prices.
next shill bread is in the oven, please wait for a fresh loaf
Is my gpu dead? rtx 3060 ti fans are spinning but the monitor isn't receiving any signals. Can't do any other troubleshooting because the cpu (ryzen 5 5600) doesn't have integrated graphics and the mobo (asrock b550m hdv) doesn't have post status lights.
>>102464341Have you tried inserting the hdmi to another slot?
>>102464341>cheaped out on the cpu>cheaped out on the moboyour faultget a new GPU and start trouble shooting. if you find that it's not the GPU then return the new one.
>>102464357There's only one hdmi port in the gpu
>>102464382DP then, retard.
>200mm fans>140mm fans>120mm fansWhich is best?
All parts arrive except CPU. Did I connect the headers wrong or does the power button on a case not work without a CPU? Jumping the motherboard connector turns it on.
>>102464478Bigger = better.The RPM of the 120mm to reach the same amount of volume of air being pushed by a 200mm is a lot.And high RPM = more noise and needs more power. Bigger fans require less power, has less noise for the same amount of cooling of a 120mm or 140mm. And if noise and you have more headroom in your PSU then you can make the 200m fan spin a lot faster for more cooling.
I'm a mild gamer and most play shit from 5-10 years ago. once in a while I'll play some new slop. I have a 5700x with a GTX 1070 (lol). I want to get either a 7900 GRE or a 4070ti super. the 4070 is $300 more. Is it worth it? My define r5 won't take a card longer than 310mm so a 7900xt is out.This would probably be the last card ill put in this build.
I got a 9950X today because I can't cope with my temporary crystal well laptop anymore after 2 years of not having a desktop and 10 years with a 3570K. Kinda regretting not waiting for the X3D because I remember seeing those pulling ahead by quite a bit when it comes to RPCS3 but at the same time it looks like the extra cache will be on just a single CCD once again and the whole core parking thing sounds like a pain in the ass and I want nothing to do with it. Am I coping?
>>102464528>I have a 5700x with a GTX 1070 (lol). I want to get either a 7900 GRE or a 4070ti super. the 4070 is $300 more. Is it worth it?No. Might wait to see if 8800 XT comes out though in October (essentially a 7900 XT for the price pf a 7900 GRE), but otherwise it's not worth it for old games.
>>102464528>>102464593If you need free FPS just slap lossless scaling software. Its available at steam.
>>102464656Are you retarded?
>>102464709works for me on yuzu and 60fps locked games
Post your favorite and GOAT cases
>>102464752Using Lian Li Dynamic Evo
>>102464646>>102464656I've always had nvidia cards and don't want to deal with AMD driver fuckery, but that may be overplayed anyway. I upgraded to a 4K monitor which is why I want to get a new gpu. The 1070 doesn't keep up anymore. Budget isn't an issue, I just would rather not spend that much on a card.
>>102464752unironically been wanting to grab one of these and build into it
>>102464810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ZW8j8q6HA
Make a new thread before the faggot that recommends a 4070 super for 1080p does
>>102464908Those cuts look absolutely awful, I might just get it done professionally. Youtubers should NEVER, EVER touch a dremel and I'm proven right every time they do.
KEK Fine wine
>>102464806>I upgraded to a 4K monitor which is why I want to get a new gpu. The 1070 doesn't keep up anymore. Budget isn't an issue, I just would rather not spend that much on a card.That changes my recommendation in >>102464646 then. Get the 4070 Ti Super.
cyka blyat hohol drones on your head
>Dell says monitors should be here by Saturday at checkout>Get email saying it's shipped and it will be here by tomorrow>Tracking Info says it won't be here until MondayWELL WHICH THE FUCK IS IT THEN DELL???
>>102465352They want to keep you in suspense, naughty boy.
>>102465376I'm tired of looking at a 720p resolution
how are you guys not scared shitless to buy intelaviv cpus?
did the intel 2.5gb nic problems get fixed ? Trying to decide whether to buy a x670e board or wait for 870e
>>102465429Simple I don' buy Intel CPUs
When are RX 8000 and 5000 coming out?
>>102465444x670e and x870e are identical but usb 4 support is standard on the latter instead of manufacturer-dependent
>>102465508I was looking at the asus x670 rog strix e vs the 870e version. The main difference is the nics. the x670e has that 2.5gb intel nic that had all those problems a year ago. I'm not sure if they fixed it.
What are the downsides of 7800X3D and 7950X3D
>>102465429why would I be ? worst case scenario I rma the cpu with intel. Intel rma is easier than amazon rma.
>>102465549>worst case scenario I rma the cpu with intel. >Intel rma is easier than amazon rma.hhahahahahahahhhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>102465556I accidentally killed a core on my 5820k overclocked before and I rma'd with intel. I had a new cpu in a couple days no questions asked.
>>102465543worse than their regular counterparts in non-gaming tasksnot by much but the difference is definitely therepotentially core parking/scheduler issues on the 7950x3d but those have probably been fixed by now
>>102465543>>102465583What are the best air coolers for 7800X3D?
>>102465578>2014 intel
>>102465549they can literally blow up your PC at any fucking time if you talk shit about them on the internet
When did AIO become standardized?
>>1024655437800x3d: weak multi thread performance for the price. Sketchy platform with compatibility problems with some memory kits or just bad boards. 7950x3d: using xbox game bar to manage what apps are considered games and designate what cores to use. same issue with flaky platform.
>>102465601AMD hasn't patched the sinkclose vulnerability for their ryzen 1 or bulldozer cpus.
>>102465591idk man any decent one will do, it's a 120w cpu
>>102465632ok and israel literally plants nitroglycerin in their electronics
>>102465591Absolute best? Probably the nh d15 G2 with the specialized am5 plateWhat you should get? Phantom spirit, it's 95% as good for 1/4 of the price
>>102465645xD
>>102465646>What you should get? Phantom spirit, it's 95% as good for 1/4 of the priceWhy is the Phantom Spirit unbeatable?
>>102465591the new noctua one.
Can 14th gen be cooled with air coolers?
>>102465791It can't even be cooled with water coolers
>>102465791Yes, but it's best to use one in conjunction with a contact frame to ensure even pressure across the die.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q^12th Gen demonstration but applies to 13/14th Gens as well since they all share the same LGA 1770 socket ILM.https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-LGA1700-BCF-V2-Corrective-LGA1700/dp/B0CS8WQYZW
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bitIf you weren't using these, you may as well be using integrated or lol amd
>>102465844*LGA 1700
NEW FUCKIN THREAD
>>102459853am i going insane or did this guy hook up the nvme directly to the psu
>>102466017Where there's a will, there's a way...
>>102466017it just works
how much wear does it add to an NVME SDD to run it in a raid 0 with 2 others? mostly so i can just go and not need to worry about setting up folders and such
what decent PC parts do you have sitting around doing nothing? I practically have a whole other gaming computer. Won't sell though I don't want any poor people having decent rigs>1070ti >2 8gb sticks of ddr4>500 gb sata ssd>2tb hdd>wraith prism cooler>450 watt bronze psu>750 watt gold psu
>>102465846>being a waitfag
New one?
nah this is gonna be the last one
Is this a good mouse? https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-anywhere-3s.910-006926.htmlI need something bluetooth with min 4 buttons that lasts fairly long and with no AA batteries
Last building thread forever?
>>102467162>>102467162
