How is a 5600gt + NH-C14S? is the combo good enough that I'll never hear the fan?

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Reposting as the other thread died:

I'm looking into RAM for my Ryzen 9900X and I've seen some people say:
"6000mhz is the sweet spot"
while others say:
"6400mhz is the sweet spot"

Is Ryzen 9000 guaranteed to be compatible with 6400? Or is it a coin toss?
Price difference between 6000CL30 and 6400CL32 is about €3 over here.

>>102474322
>>102474325
>>102474326

I mainly use it for video editing. I do play video games but mostly emulating old PS1/2 horror games and the only new releases I play are horror, I don't play competitive shooters than need 10,000k fps or anything like that.

>>102474405
Look if your software uses MOAR cores or prefers higher speed single cores.

>>102474405
>I mainly use it for video editing
If I were you, I would check benchmarks specific for your editing tool.
The X3D parts are usually slower than the non-X3D for pretty much all other tasks.

>>102474465
>higher speed single cores
The X3D has more cache, but slower (mhz) cores.
Performance will vary on a per-program basis. Better check specific benchmarks.

>>102474465
>>102474476
>>102474492
I use Premiere Pro and have always been told it's better to have more cores, 8 at the very least.

V-cache will save Zen 5.

>>102474531
I would get the 7950x if I were you anon. If gaymen isn't the main focus and editing is, then 100% get the 16-core chip. I edit for a living (premiere pro too) and had to get a PC fast with what I could afford at the time and went with the 7900. I'm happy to have 12 cores over 8, it helps cut render times, especially if you CPU encode, but it can also help with timeline scrubbing and general compute/multitasking. Hope this helps anon, get the 7950x and enjoy the peace of mind of using a top-tier chip.

>>102474531
Wait to see how the 24-core Arrow Lake parts stack up against AMD then.

when will 5060 release?

Is the Hynix p41 SSD fine or do I get the sn850x (about 40$ more expensive here)

>>102474615
Thanks, sound good.

I have 6 fans in my CPU case, including 2 fans for my CPU on my CPU cooler. Is this overkill?

>>102474851
computer case**

Is it worth waiting for prime day? Do PC parts usually go on sale?

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>>102474666
see pic

>>102474851
Fans depends on the case, how obstructed they are etc etc. As a general rule though under positive pressure scenarios with fans that can do some actual rpms (not 800rpm silent fans) 4-6 is the typical amount that makes sense. 2-3 front intakes and 1-2 exhaust (rear and top rear). Bonus option: side panel intake to blow right over the gpu.

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Built a PC for my youngest brother, he wanted lotsa RGB on a reasonable budget. He's 13, I hope he'll grow out of it.
Last PC I built is next to it, for my middle brother around 2019.

I was let out of (something like) prison for a week so I had to get stuff that was available at brick-and-mortar stores the same day, kind of fucked up my motherboard and power supply choice.
I hope I did okay taking into account I pretty much had 3-4 hours to get a quick rundown of all hardware innovations since late 2022.

I'm definitely gonna build my next PC when I get back to college next year in an O11 derivative.

>Ryzen 7 7700X
>32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 6000MHz CL30
>ASUS TUF B650 Plus WiFi
>Zotac GTX4070 Super Trinity 12GB
>WD SN850X 1TB
>Corsair RM750X
>Lian Li O11 Vision
>Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III 360
>6x Arctic P12 ARGB fans

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>>102474957
My set up looks like this. Red lines are the direction.

>4k
>120hz+
>kvm switch
any monitors like this that aren't oled slop?

>>102474898
Mostly old stuff
The general principle is that Black Friday and similar shopping holidays only exist to help retailers move old stock that people wouldn't buy normally
Occasionally you can find a good deal on something, but generally you need to have a few options for a specific part that you'll be willing to accept. SSDs will sometimes have decent prices

>>102474666
March or April 2025 is my guess

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>>102475105
F3 isn't moving air like that, - it is pushing it straight up. If possible i'd move it like pic related.

>>102475117
>kvm switch
too specific and only comes with """premium""" monitors, just buy a $30 chinky device on aliexpress and increase your options by two factors of magnitude

>>102475099
>360 aio
>7700x
The 240 or 280 versions are enough (hell the 280 model is the unsung hero of the entire liquid freezer lineup).

>>102475283
fair enough i guess it's not a hard requirement just a nice to have

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>>102474315
I can no longer support Intel.

FUCK YOU STUPID NIGGERS NONE OF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING OR CARE TO HELP YOU ONLY ANSWER THE MOST BASIC RETARDED QUESTIONS "DUHHHH IS THE 7800X3D GOOD FOR GAMING???" USELESS FUCKING GENERAL

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>>102475271
That's literally how it is angled in my NZXT case and it came like that. Pic related.
F4 and F5 are two fans on a cooler with two separate heat spreading towers.

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>>102475501
>F4 and F5 are two fans on a cooler with two separate heat spreading towers.
Like this
>>102475498
What was your question anon?

>>102475501
Even at that angle - which is uncommon btw - unless it shares lineage with a jet engine it isn't moving enough air to matter. Unless it is catching some other device (like an nvme) it is basically not doing anything without - again - being part jet. You could stick your hand over it and feel the airflow and see where it tapers off. I would wager by the time your hand is over the mobo you couldn't be able to tell that fan is doing anything next to F1+2 which are your main intakes.

>>102475520
>Like this
I figured and that is perfectly normal and expected.

>>102475565
>Even at that angle - which is uncommon btw - unless it shares lineage with a jet engine it isn't moving enough air to matter. Unless it is catching some other device (like an nvme) it is basically not doing anything without - again - being part jet. You could stick your hand over it and feel the airflow and see where it tapers off. I would wager by the time your hand is over the mobo you couldn't be able to tell that fan is doing anything next to F1+2 which are your main intakes.
It's hitting my motherboard, GPU, and CPU fans. I've never seen a fan like this before it came pre-installed in the case.

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Fine wine is almost ready

>>102475579
if it is pushing that much air then whatever - leave it in place as it is working.

Does a PSU randomly being unplugged/lose power damage it in anyway if it's done freauently? Let's say if it happens like twice a week that the power to the PSU gets cut, would it be a bad idea to continue using the PSU? It's not some AliExpress PSU either, it's an EVGA supernova g2

>>102475651
>gamegpu
Not valid unless nvidia is winning

>>102474315
All those recommended 4K monitors are too small. What's a good monitor that's over 40 inches?

>>102475384
I agree that 2 140mm fans rival the air movement capacity of 3 120mms and are definitely quieter, but you know, as many rgb fans as possible.
There are no value packs of Arctic P14s as well.
After an installation of a Scythe Fuma and Accelero Xtreme IV (5700XT) in the older build that took hours

>>102475498
based Intel user

>thermals running hot, cpu hit 100C
>figure i'd replace place
>try to remove fan
>cpu gets yoinked out with it
>try to separate them
>cpu falls
>bent pins
>internet says use mechanical pencil or credit card to fix
>too thick, just makes it worse
>some dude uses a razor blade
>hey, this is working!
>realize i've cut off a pin
>computer won't boot at all
now i've gotta use my shitty ass walmart laptop for 2 days until my new cpu (with an actual cooler) comes in

>>102475745
None as that is TV territory and despite what the shills tell you TV's don't have dominance over monitors for high end feature sets.

>>102475844
*replace paste

>>102475844
In what universe does fan removal involve ripping the cpu out of its socket? I cast doubt on this scenario. ALSO
>not running prime95 for a few mins to heat the paste up making it more malleable for cooler removal

>>102475661
Power cycling in general wears down components but PSUs are built to deal with it. Maybe it'll last 7 years instead of 10. If you're getting that frequent blackouts I'd be more worried about data loss or corruption. Buy a UPS.

>>102475863
I lurk this thread a lot and I'm pretty sure something like this happens here at least twice a month.

>>102475848
I want a 4k monitor with a similar low dpi to older monitors so I can play old and new games on it without having to either shove my face into them to see the details or set them to fullscreen. High DPI stuff never appealed to me.

>>102475887
For cooler removal sure but fans just clip on so no.

>>102475863
i was using the stock AMD fan/heatsink that came with the CPU

Man I love you anons. You're so helpful. No homo or anything like that.

>>102475896
>High DPI stuff never appealed to me.
I would bet you aren't even sitting at the correct distance to your TV, let alone a high resolution monitor. Consider the following information;

>https://stari.co/tv-monitor-viewing-distance-calculator
>https://www.ultraselective.com/blog/optimal-viewing-distance
>https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/knowledge-center/knowledge/whats-the-best-viewing-distance-for-a-1440p-gaming-monitor.html
>https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship
>https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/articles/00008601

>>102475973
I sit slightly less than 3 feet away from my 43" monitor which is what that graph recommends and I want a second one with a similar size but a higher refresh rate.

>>102475745
>>102475896
Just get LG C2/C3/C4 whichever is cheaper in your area
t. 42" C2 user

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I ordered this and my current main gaming monitor is 1440p 144hz.
What am I in for?

>>102476055
Thanks I'll consider that. I don't know what that other anon is thinking trying to convince me that I don't actually want what I want.

>month ago
>look for a new case
>check random video reviews on newer cases
>expect GN to have some recent ones, nothing because we gotta do investigative journalism
>end up getting a lancool 216
>now he's doing video reviews for newer cases every 15 minutes

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>>102476107
>displayHDR400
I hope you don't plan to use HDR on it.

>>102476107
>27 inch 1080p
you are in for counting pixels

>>102476226
Brother there's cases from 2010 that hold up today so don't sweat it.

>>102476107
when it arrives, tell us if you see the difference in motion

I have a 1060 and looking for an upgrade, it seems like 3060s are always on sale and have deals while 40 series cards are overpriced? Should I just get the 3060?

>>102476343
No
>>102476369
kek
>>102476405
sure

OLED 1440p 27'' under $600

recommend me a 750/850w psu

>>102476226
Similar, bought a Meshify 2 a month ago, the Antec Flux Pro came out a week later. Though it doesn't seem to be actually available right now.

>>102476418
AW2725DF maybe?
at least in France right now you can add up enough offers and discounts to get it down to 550€, I'm seriously considering getting one even though I know I'll burn the fuck out of it in no time.

>>102476418
>OLED 1440p 27'' under $600
https://www.amazon.com/KOORUI-AdaptiveSync-Compatible-DisplayPort-27E8QK/dp/B0CMGHJ55V
https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Connectivity-Speakers-Adjustable/dp/B0CMSVLJW2

>>102476437
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
>>102476414
if you're US, it seems like you can get a 6600xt for 30$ less which as far as I can tell gets better performance in games than the 3060

>>102476437
Anything super flower sells in that power range.

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how big difference is between L2 and L3 cache speed? like would 6mb L2 in one core be equal to shared 96mb of L3?

>>102474315
I have a 2k budget and want to totally replace the PC I have now (built in 2017). How far along can I future-proof? Another 7 years maybe?

>>102476764
>built in 2017
If it's AM4 get 5700X3D and wait for AM6 instead

>>102476791
won't that be q4 2026?

>>102476508
>>102476562
what about this one
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CB9MSJ5N?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Will a 4090 run the Pimax 12k?

Qualcomm has applied to register a deal to acquire Intel for $68 billion. According to the Wall Street Journal, the company does not plan to retain most of the company's brands, planning massive change in portfolio to server solutions.
> Ibn4 source
It's all over the news

>>102476848
Yes, that's the point. AM4 with X3D will still be good enough until then, unless you have very specific tasks that require newer CPUs.

Who decided that plastic pins with thin parts should carry the weight of an important pc part, fuck.

>>102476895
intcels, your response?

>>102476895
This poster sucks 50 cocks a day and is addicted to his father's cum
>Inb4 source
It's all over the news

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how big impact will supposed 2.5D chip interconnect on zen 6 have
i read somewhere that intel have something like that, did it make difference at all?

>>102476848
I mean if your current 2017 PC is on AM4 you don't need to replace it, just upgrade the CPU for now.
Literally any AM4 motherboard can handle latest AM4 X3D chips.

>>102476868
Seems okay/10
>https://hwbusters.com/psus/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850w-psu-review/
>Another thing that left an impression on me is the 12V-2×6 socket on the PSU’s modular panel, which, in fact, is a 12VHPWR one. Moreover, although the provided 12VHPWR cable has a 600W marking, it is set at 450W. I don’t mind that so much since a 600W setting for an 850W PSU would be an overkill, but users should have the correct information. All in all, MSI does a decent job in the PSU field thanks to its good cooperation with CWT, one of the best and largest PSU OEMs.

>>102476895
>chinks buying kike company
lol lmao

We would be living in Star Trek by now if they hadn't blocked Nvidia's ARM acquisition

>>102477099
No jensen, no.

>>102476895
The US gov won't allow intel to be sold as-is. They would let the design team rot but the foundry side of the business will not be allowed to be foreign hands.

So I got a PSU for free. Checked the cultist site and it's ranked E.
Silverstone SST-ST50F-ES
It'd be for a Ryzen 3600 + RX 580 8GB build. Still avoid using the PSU?

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>>102476914
Why so butthurt?

>>102476914
brandfaggots are the scourge of this board

>>102477143
so much about free trade

>>102477162
I would never use a dogshit PSU because it can brick your entire system

>>102477269
never existed

>>102477269
free trade was never a thing - it is a bullshit lie based on the caveat said trade remains domestic [to burgerland].

>>102476629
Best not to think of it like that. L2 cache will always be "faster" in the strictest sense but they do different things. The main thing to understand is that, with SRAM, access speed and size are opposed - the more you have the higher the latency so there's a balancing act. Tranching it out is an attempt to solve that problem with each level storing different things that benefit more or less from latency or bandwidth. That is to say, if they slapped 96MB of (2D) L2 cache on a CPU today it wouldn't necessarily make it faster because of the latency penalty - it wouldn't behave like L2 cache is "meant" to behave. Stacking it vertically (3D) solves that problem somewhat because more of the physical silicon is electrically accessible at one time.

>>102477162
If there is nothing else you can use it, F tier are the ones you should rule out completely

>>102476942
what about this
https://www.newegg.ca/be-quiet-pure-power-850w-850-w/p/1HU-004H-000S2

>>102477315
3D stacking is ultimately still a dirty hack to the problem that sram scaling dropped off a cliff 30 years ago compared to the rest of the logic within a cpu core. The real solution is just better memory but if it were that easy it would exist now so in a roundabout way AMD's v cache is a bodge solution to a problem that exists but ideally shouldn't. If AND - or anyone else in the high performance space - solves the issue of the cores baking the stacked cache to death we might see better scaling once again. I'd wager IBM has done a lot of research into this but obviously never made a product out of it (IBM's R&D is still ludicrous and in some areas has well over a decade lead on other manufacturers).

>>102477398
Seems to be also a viable choice.
>https://hwbusters.com/psus/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850w-psu-review/

>>102477287
>>102477386
ngl I was hoping for "they're retards that psu is fine"
I'll probably just get another one and sell this one

>>102474315
What's the best GPU (either used or new) to get for $400aud?

What are the risks of going used (my current GPU is 10 years old and works)

Parts are
i7 8700
H31m mobo
16gb
550w PSU

Would you need to upgrade the PSU with newer GPUs?

>>102477039
Chinks? Qualcomm is an American company

>>102477401
From the end-user's perspective it costs 1-5% nT compute, from power throttling, to triple the L3 cache without crippling the latency. For some applications that's a fantastic trade. I would be happy to see "traditional" SRAM come back in but at this point we may well conclude the speed/size tradeoff is a physical law. Clearly it has been more profitable to work around the problem than attack it head on.

>>102477475
It's fine until it isn't, the further down the tierlist you go, the higher the risk
Of course, the risk is minimal (except for F tier)
The odds something bad will happen within a year or even a few is very small, but would you take let's say a 5% chance your pc will be fried in the next 3 years?

>>102474315
Is there any good wired mice for under $20 anymore? I don't think I've touched a good mouse in 10 years.

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>>102474315
>Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX

what happend to the ASRock PG27QFT2A? it was there a week ago. is there something wrong with it?

How can I tell if a motherboard will have coil whine? Also, is coil whine on motherboards really only noticeable when the PC gets stressed?

>>102477857
>How can I tell if a motherboard will have coil whine?
You will hear it.
>Also, is coil whine on motherboards really only noticeable when the PC gets stressed?
That is the most common scenario but is not a hard requirement.

>>102477857
You can't.
No, coil whine happens whenever electricity is passed through it. Doesn't matter if it's under load or not. It can happen whenever. Some can have coil whine at low loads so even at idle you would hear it. Some can have coil whine at high loads so only when it's being stressed you can hear it. Some can have both and you hear it all the time.

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my two monitors are currently set up like this and I want a 3rd monitor on the right for work
don't want another big monitor, about 16inch is enough
however I discovered there seems to be almost no market for this
the only shit I can find are those "portable monitors" from China
all the normal smaller monitors are either 4:3 or way too old
I guess normal 16inch HD isn't a thing?

>>102477975
>I guess normal 16inch HD isn't a thing?
Not within the last 15-20 years no.

>>102478030
damn, maybe I can find a portable one with vesa

>>102477827
The OP is already making weird edits. Nothing wrong with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L97Ak-VfqGY
The only problem is its $190 right now and the Dell G2724D is better and $170 right now and has been consistently cheaper as of late.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/vyqrxr,N2cgXL,LfzXsY/
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/ffb4be0
The more appropriate model for comparison now is the ASRock PG27QFT1B which is the same as PG27QFT2A with a different stand and price-matches the cheaper Dell. The problem again though is the Dell is still slightly better in various areas.

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isn't it time to ban japan from porting PC games

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>>102478100

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>>102478121

>>102477975
>>102478030
>the only shit I can find are those "portable monitors" from China
Do not fear the Chinese display (where do you think all of the other monitors are made, England?)
https://www.amazon.com/Wstirhy-1920x1200-Portable-Monitor-Care/dp/B0CJBHJSMV
https://www.ebay.com/itm/315568769250
https://www.amazon.com/MAGICRAVEN-Portable-Monitor-3840x2400-Laptop/dp/B0BZ4FPN3K

>>102477811
I guess not?

>>102478071
thank you sir. the dell is only 165hz vs the ASRock's 180hz - how much do you think that matters? is the ASRock worth the extra 20$ for the +15hz?

>>102478131
how does it even run on console?

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Is this motherboard worth the upgrading from an Intel to AMD build? Going from ASUS-Prime Z370-A and i9-9900k to potentially this and a 7900x, does that sound like a good upgrade?

I've got all the sata cable requirements met thankfully, is it recommended on the OP for any specific reason?

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>>102478303
>thank you sir. the dell is only 165hz vs the ASRock's 180hz - how much do you think that matters? is the ASRock worth the extra 20$ for the +15hz?
A 20Hz advantage isn't enough to feel in reduced input lag and the Dell compensates with far better tuning and then some:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9ByU6AOd8
7ms vs. 9ms average response time, 11ms vs. 13ms total input lag, and lower cumulative deviation (less motion blur and pixel overshoot combined).

>>102478417
why do you want to go to the 7900X over the 7800X3D?

>>102478428
DUDE! i'm gettin a dell

I guess I've been shadow banned or something, I have noticed recently I do not get any replies on /g/ for the last couple months. Never was this way. If this is the case, go fuck yourselves jannies. I got my replacement btw, so go ahead and send me on a 3 day vacation again.

>>102478100
>the 4070 ti super is now a 1080p card
time to update the OP

>>102478476
?

>>102478458
Is the difference really that big? I was only holding back because it seemed like a VERY minimal boost in performance, for what was essentially $100+ more than the other one.

>>102478100
>isn't it time to ban japan from porting PC games
I understand what you meant, but it's a garbage conslow game designed from the ground up for conslows. Sold almost no copies on PC. Ugly game, last gen graphics as well. UE5 games look massively better, even if they look kind of samey because devs constantly reuse the stock UI elements

>>102477827
No, it just didn't make the shortlist

>>102477515
>risks of going used
Loud, and if it dies, no warranty
I'd probably just punt with an RX 6600 if you're buying new, maybe look for a cheap 2060 Super if you're buying used. 400 AUD is an awkward price point.

>>102478388
720p or less upscaled to 4K using FSR1
One of the worst looking games in terms of image quality on conslow

>>102478498
7800x3d is like 20% better in games & "should be" same price or cheaper than the 7900x
7800x3d is just ludicrously popular atm & thus sold out everywhere. Half a year ago 7800x3d was selling for ~350

>>102478498
7800X3D is currently overpriced

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>>102475745
>>102476110
what are your plans for this fuckhuge monitor, 42 inches is a very awkward and unideal size and your condescending response to genuine advice makes you look like you don't actually know what you're buying. at monitor length it's too big for 4K and would need to be 8K, at TV length it's too small and might as well be 1080p.

>>102478417
one of the ugliest mobos ive ever seen

>>102478570
>7800X3D is currently overpriced
that shit was like 310$ on amazon 2 weeks ago and now its 500$+ wtf happened?

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>>102478748
zen5

>>102478748
sold out, imagine if AMD released the 9800X3D for $449, that would have sold out

>>102478614
Just because it's awkward and unideal for you doesn't mean it is for me. Having a big screen lets me have multiple windows up at once and it improves my workflow, and as I said earlier I want to play old games windowed so a low DPI is beneficial for me. My old monitor was a 25" 1440p with 117.5 PPI and I couldn't see 600p games on it very well without shoving my face into the screen, so when I got my current 43" 4k screen at 102.5 PPI it was a blessing for me because I could play older games at a comfortable distance from the screen without having to go to fullscreen or use scaling.

Also why are you reposting that graph when already I said here >>102476052 that I sit at that ideal distance from my current 4k 43" monitor? You don't seem to care about what I want and you're just concerned with forcing your ideal of what the best monitor for you is onto me.

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what CPU do you guys think would pair well with an AMD RX6800? Right now I have a Ryxen 7 3800x and I think there might be a bottleneck.

>>102478960
you seem incredibly fucking defensive anon, are you like this all the time? that shit would get tiring very fast if I had to talk to you every day. just set the game to 2x scaling.

>>102475745
>>102476055
I've also have a 42" C2, been using it for a few years now. Part of a triple 'monitor' setup. That one I use for watching videos & gaming.
A lot of the modes/refresh rates are weird stuff for video, but it does 4K & 2K @ 120, which is good enough for me. Next to the two ips monitors, the colors & contrast put them to shame.

I've had this since 2022, no burn in issues. Probably the thing that would have been most likely to do it is the onscreen compass in Elden ring? But I do have most of the builtin anti-burn in features turned on.
The only thing I consider a drawback is hdmi only, no dp. And to adjust settings you have to use a remote (no gang of buttons on the bezel). But LG remotes that I've seen are like a Wii controller. So it's very natural to move the pointer through the osd.

>>102476385
>cases from 2010 that hold up today
Sometimes I'll see a pic w/ a case that has features I want. When I look it up, it's been discontinued for a decade :(

>>102478960
pg42uq but it really isnt worth the money when compared to the c2 unless you really want one of its pc-specific features
if youre gunshy on going with oled, there is the pg38uq (assumins its available in your region)
the benq ex381u is releasing later this year which uses the same panel
unfortunately its slim pickings for people who want a >32" 4k monitor

>>102479127
>3800x
The only viable upgrades are 5700x3d or 5800x3d.

>>102474315
got my parts
installed psu
screwed in the mb
went to install my processor
lined it up with the arrow
levered it halfway down
minor crunch, more resistance than I recall (its been 8-10 yrs)
lever back up
take out chip
oh, theres a bent pin in there.
put chip back on, jiggle it around
lever it down again and no problem

im not sure if I fucked myself or not
do I rma the board or just keep going and hope it boots and isnt too bent?

>>102479300
but why?

>>102479127
>upper midrange CPU and GPU released 1 year apart
>bottleneck

>>102479430
fastest chips you can slap into AM4 without an entire platform upgrade which may or may not give tangible performance increases depending on use case.

>>102475925
That still makes no sense unless you somehow broke the CPU lock on your motherboard

>>102479583
makes sense, also not that bad of a price. You think it could still be relevant for a 1440p build for the next 3 years?

>>102475915
Some people call the CPU heatsink the 'fan'

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>>102479466
this build already feels old and outdated compared to what other anons have at the moment.

>>102479692
>this build already feels old and outdated compared to what other anons have at the moment.
no one in this general buys anything

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Convince me to OOOOOPGRADE my GPU

>>102478428
>shit response time
>not even fast enough for 165hz
holy fuck I got memed HARD on this one.
I was wondering whether I should go OLED but this might tip me over right now

>>102479638
Yes as - ON AVERAGE - 1440p tends to lean on gpu more than cpu so as long as the cpu can keep up you are sorted. As ever do your own research on what games you play and how much cpu matters.

What's a good gaming PC I can get for ~$1000 USD bros?
I want to play Sparking Zero this October as close to 60FPS as I can get

>>102479834
It's very good FOR AN LCD and deserves recommendation FOR THE PRICE especially as it's currently on sale.
But no one ever said anything about it compared to OLED. If you've got OLED money ($550+), you buy an OLED period, end of story.

>>102479382
almost certainly fucked it up
i recently built a b650 rig and had a bent pin and it resulted in not being able to boot to bios
maybe youll be lucky but i wouldnt risk it

>>102479810
just lower your graphics settings

>>102479810
6700XT? You don't need to

>>102478428
>rip off aperture grilles pioneering cumulative average deviation measurement method for quantifying display 'lag'
>swap the order of the words around
yeah i know he has publicly acknowledged that he bit his superior measuring method, but its still funny

>>102480012
at that price point id just get a ps5 pro

>>102480166
lol

>>102480012
I've never heard of a DBZ game needing more than a potato to run on

>>102480172
youre not gonna build an equivalent pc at that price with how fucked up the market is unless you take a chance with used parts

>>102480180
Let's see... for $700, you get a PS5 what STILL has to upscale to get near 4K. No exclusive titles, but hey! GT7 will have ray tracing! I mean it's only reflections on other cars, but...
Oh yeah, it's $800 if you want the optional disk drive and...lol... a stand.

>>102480160
>yeah i know he has publicly acknowledged that he bit his superior measuring method, but its still funny
I am perfectly fine with it as Tim seems to be the only guy (outside of RTINGs and those Chinese reviewers on Youtube that need Close Captioned auto-translated subs turned on) currently invested in serious regular PC monitor evaluation. So the sharing of better methodology and putting aside ego is important if raising the bar on image quality is the end goal for everyone. There is also TFTCentral & PCMonitors.info but they aren't doing as much frequently.

One thing I wish is for Tim or RTINGs would JUST ONCE do is perform an evolution for a late CRT using the same criteria and methodology we've come to expect from modern LCD/OLED testing as a point of reference. The closest we've ever gotten was when Digital Foundry & LTT took a look at the FW900 but apart from marveling at it's lack of fixed resolution and perfect motion no real hard numbers were measured.

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>>102479810
>fsr
Keep your current setup until next gen midrange RTX 50 comes out, if you don't have the budget for a 5080

>>102480012
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YCWFvj
Wait for the benchmarks

>>102480116
fuuuuuck

>>102480256
iirc, aperture grille reviewed his dell crt a while back with some measurements and comparisons to lcd panels

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How risky is it to get a 14500 now, with the fixes an everything?
Assuming mostly medium/light usage with no overclocking.

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>>102473401
>https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-agesa-update/result-3.svgz
They undid some optimizations which caused the high measured latency
It affects quite a lot of programs, some worse and some better

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I got my monitor a week ago, and just today realized I can only get 165hz with the DisplayPort (instead of 144hz with HDMI), but the slot seems to be damaged or faulty, since the cable that came with it won't go all the way through, despite not being blocked in any way. If I hold it in place it works, but the moment I let go it goes to "No signal".

Anyway, I want to try buying a new cable before sending it back for a replacement/fix. Is any random cable from Amazon fine or should I buy something specific?

How much lower should you run your frames compared your monitor output?

>>102481118
I assume you're trying to minimize latency
If the game supports Nvidia Reflex, just turn that on. Reflex will cap the framerate for you to minimize the latency.
Otherwise, it becomes a sliding scale. The higher your monitor's maximum refresh rate, the more below that maximum you should set your frame rate to.
The classic recommendation was 3 FPS below your monitor's refresh rate and if I remember right, this was when 120Hz - 165Hz was the common max refresh rate. I'd personally start creeping up to 6 FPS under if the monitor's refresh rate is 240Hz or faster

>>102481335
>3 FPS below your monitor's refresh rate
that was only for g-sync hardware module monitors which applies to only a handful of monitors on the market
it was 10-15 FPS below the refresh rate for freesync/vesa vrr monitors back then but not sure what it should be today

if qualcomm buys intel it's unironically over

>>102481428
wont happen when nvidia was stopped from buying arm
their probably doing it to negotiate better contracts over cross patent agreements in networking ip owned by intel

am I dumb for waiting on 9800X3D CPU?

it will be about the same as 7800X3D but they have been jacking up 7800X3D prices

do any of these CPU's have issues running old games?

>>102481484
wait for intel 15th gen

>>102481529
yea man wait around anohter 365 days for a CPU that will self destruct

>>102481540
they are coming out in less than 3 weeks

>>102481546
yea and they will still self destruct

>>102481567
they already fixed that

>>102481570
right

they fixed a hardware oxidation issue

>>102481583
can you just say you are an amd fanboy so we don't have to do this on a friday night

>>102481570
CPUs are still dying and intel have already run out of replacement CPUs

>>102481591
im not a AMD fanboy.

I just want something that will not break after a year

Should I get a 9700x or a 7800x3d? They're about the same price.

>>102481606
7800x3d

>>102481606
7800X3D for gaming.

>>102481604
well the reason the cpus were dying is because of a bug with cpus requesting too much voltage which intel has now fixed. the affected cpus are physically damaged but that is obvious. newer cpus or cpus with updated microcode won't have the same problem

>>102481636
cope

>>102479776
You consoomers are going to be really fucking mad when the RTX 8090 changes the game and you settled for one of the buy in betas.

>>102477515
I'd wait for RDNA4

>>102481636
Its not a bug. All their boosting algorithms were functioning correctly. The problem is that they went overly aggressive in programming high voltages for their low-binned cpus on a dated voltage regulation design that was originally used for quad core cpus, so right now they have to hardcode safety limits to prevent the cpus from using those higher boost bins

>>102480344
Interesting, thanks

>>102477515
Not to waitfag, but the time for waiting is actually upon us.

>>102481676
shut up buildzoid

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anyone rma'd a motherboard with msi before ?

are they going to fix it or fuck me over ?

So just to be clear, a modern i3-12100f+cheap ass motherboard is better in every way possible compared to an i7-7700k+z270 motherboard?

I haven't looked into computer hardware since 2017, so I'm having trouble believing in this witchcraft.

>>102481730
ask again on october 16th
we are in the waitfag phase

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How autistic do people get about thermal paste? What causes this level of price variation?

>>102481794
I got a small 30ml tub of paste from AliExpress for $1.30 shipped years ago
It still has 15ml remaining and it performs really good

>>102481384
Hmmm you're right
I did some searching and it seems like Nvidia Reflex sets the fps cap ~6.8% below the max refresh rate of the monitor
240Hz refresh rate means a 224fps cap
360Hz refresh rate means a 336fps cap

>>102481794
you need specific paste for ln2 oc

>>102481794
>How autistic do people get about thermal paste?
They use the tube of paste included with the separate cooler they purchased. Or just stick with the pre-applied paste that comes with stock coolers or AIOs
>paste replacement
Yeah, the included tube of paste is more than enough for multiple applications

>Hitachi HDS723020BLA642
wtf is name, why is it so long

>>102474315
Shouldn't that pic be for the /sqtg/?

>>102481794
that reminds me, i'm building my first pc and i don't have any thermal paste. i have to buy some before i start assembling right? everything is still in its boxes

>>102477515
The 4060 is solid for 1080p, it has 3x more fps than a 970.
you need to look at your psu connectors, it needs to have a 8 pin connector to the GPU.
used is only good if you are buying something that is almost ewaste, like I bought a 1660 TI for $70, it was 50% better than my 970. Not that great, but my 970 didn't have gsync and it had a hardware issue, but if that 1660 TI was broken, I wouldn't care, $70 is nothing.
You could buy a 3080 for like $400, if you can accept the possibility that it's broken or loud, and it's not going to cause you long term mental harm knowing that it only has 50% better fps than a 4060 since the 3080 is like a 4070, and you absolutely need a better PSU for a 3080.
But sometimes on facebook marketplace you find crazy deals like you could find a 3090 for like $400, if they show that the card runs a stress test, I don't see why you would not buy it (but you could also be super scammed with no possible way of getting your money back unlike ebay, but you need to pay taxes + shipping on ebay...).

>>102474382
>Is Ryzen 9000 guaranteed to be compatible with 6400? Or is it a coin toss?
looking up compatibility on manufacturer website is a thing

>>102480926
>optimizations increase latency
this is what happens when you leet jeets into your company

>>102481720
depends how fucked up the board is and if it was user error

>>102482023
coolers will typically come with pre-applied paste or a small tube of paste you have to manually apply
maybe youre sol if you bought some aliexpress though

>>102481993
this general is worse

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I need a 12vhpwr adapter since my 4070s' cable would be need to be bent in order to close the case, but it says not to (at least at that length). Are adapters like pic related reliable? It has a good amazon score, but not sure if chinesium is to be trusted in this specific caste.
>https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0CHF1C638

>>102482324
read the op

>>102482331
Kek, didn't notice because the previous OP didn't have it, my bad. Thanks.

>>102480999
it doesn't have a latch? DP cables usually do, get one with a button on it.

>>102482276
my board has problems booting. It will only boot like 1 out of 10 attempts.
I'm afraid they are going to get it and say nothing is wrong then ship it back to me.

>>102482384
i specifically bought my case to cater to the ridiculously large amount of space recommended between the gpu power socket and side panel
what a crock of shit this new connector has been

>>102482397
It doesn't, no. And thanks, will do.

>>102482417
>It will only boot like 1 out of 10 attempts.
you sure it's the board? does it have leds? at which stage it fails to boot?

>>102482417
same thing happened to me and then i tried a new ram kit and the issue went away.
have you tried replacing parts with known working replacements or running memtest/prime95 etc to stress test your system?

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I spent more than I'm willing to admit to figure out why my computer kept shutting down at random intervals, all for it to be caused by me unknowingly moving the cables with my feet on my power strip...

>>102482425
Conversely, I specifically asked Montech if it the case I was going to buy was wide enough to hose a 4070S, and they said yes, clearly not knowing the cable springs out. I wish someone reputable made a 90° adapter, because my only alternative is bend the cable.

>>102482518
or get a PCI extension cable and put the card vertically

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Both picrel arrive tomorrow. I know the Dell is MSI Aero. Is there really any difference between the two?
Also scored a Strix 1080 a8g for just under $100 today, with box.

>>102482494
Careful Anon, you might damage the breakers in your house by doing that.

>>102482569
This is why you'll stay poor

>>102482569
>>102482578
I have to second that, anon

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>>102474315
>DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Isn't that only for 4090 because of the wattage? Or is it for any card? Because even for 4090 he says the failure rate is 0.05-0.1% which is minuscule.

>>102482449
i've tried different cpus. even at the jedec 4800mhz stock setting it doesn't always boot.
stability once i get into windows is fine with no crashing except for the windwos file explorer resetting at times.

my plan is to get a x870e board then ship this one to msi for rma and hopefully sell it to someone if the rma version works.

>>102482441
it just shows 00 on the code read out with the red and yellow led lights on.
takes like 5 attempts to train with the 15 mem training code.

i want to keep using windows 10 pro for my new pc, is it too late for me? i heard that microsoft ended their free upgrade last year for it

>>102482694
>>102482703
sounds like its a memory issue
running it at jedec wont mean much if the stick are fucked

>>102482712
>>>/g/fwt/

>>102482694
4 dimms?

>>102481720
>>102482694
ok but what cpu and memory are you using??

$2000 AUD budget, looking for a full gentoo system I'll be doing a lot of compiling for work with the occasional games that aren't that graphically intensive and 3d rendering for my side gig, any recommendations for minimum CPU, GPU and RAM?

>>102482569
Had a Zotac Card that was extremely close to the design of this when I had my 1080Ti. It eventually died after 7 years. Just ran too hot, had the name plate drop in the bottom of the case a few days after putting it in from the glue drying up.

>>102482833
9900x, 64gb of 6000cl30 ram, b650 motherboard and rtx4060ti 16gb

Is it stupid to upgrade an existing AM4 (pcie 3.0) platform in 2024? I wouldn't mind building a new PC but I also know that it would be beyond overkill for my needs.

>>102482958
that depends on your plans and what you currently have and what you need

>>102482958
if it's gaymen going from ryzen 1k/2k to 5700x3D will be big, 3/5950x will be pretty nice for productivity though maybe your mobo cant handle all those cores
if you are on ryzen 3000 nah

>>102482995
>>102482996
r5 2600 to 5600
16 ram to 32 ram
new main SSD
I have doubts about bying a recent GPU for PCIE3. I have 1660ti right now.

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>>102482958
5700x3d is dirt cheap all over aliexpress
pcie 3.0 is enough for all but the most powerful gpus
don't forget to update your bios and enable rebar

>>102483023
Any 16x gpu will be fine

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I have a Zotac Trinity 3090 that I bought used around a year ago, everything is great about it except the temperatures. Even when power limiting to 300w (from 340w stock), it quickly hits ~88*C and starts throttling. My case has decent airflow and my CPU is a 7800x3d, which generates hardly any heat. Would it be worth re-pasting the 3090? I've never re-pasted a GPU before.

>>102483165
Repaste with ptm7950 and you should never have to repaste it ever

>>102482578
>>102482586
Stay seething consooooomer. Meanwhile my money is tied up in L series lenses kek.

>>102483031
Can AliExpress cpus really be trusted though?

>>102483334
not like chinese can manufacture fakes or even spoof ids (yet)
worst that can happen is getting some different model, but it's the same on amazon (worse actually due to cheap fast shipping and abundance of scammer customers sending back their old cpus as returns, and then such returns get shipped to new customers, never heard of that on ali)

>>102483165
>3090 that I bought used around a year ago
>it quickly hits ~88*C and starts throttling.
>Would it be worth re-pasting?
Kek, only 4yrs old and dying. That's what you get for buying a card someone mined with retard. Meanwhile my 1060, and soon to be 1080, run absolutely fine.
Such is the life of the nIgeria consoooomer

>>102483398
>1060
I haven't used a card that weak in about 10 years, I bought the 3090 for playing with AI and your card would be barely above running on a CPU.

>>102483269
Nigga instead of buying multiple outdated cards, you could've just gotten some basic 4060

i thought my new pc would finally make me happy bros... what a waste of money

>>102483334
generally yes

>>102483427
lmao retard fell for buying a new pc
have fun playing
>generic AAA current year slop
with your new hardware bro! also don't forget to show me your cinebench score!

>>102483456
all ive played is lord of the rings online and testing my new rig in a massively juiced t17 in poe
the last aaa slop i played was dishonored whenever that released. what a waste of money that game was.

>>102483484
I mean it's no thief but I will never say Dishonoured was garbage.

>>102483497
it wasnt complete horseshit but in no way does it deserve even a modicum of the praise it was getting.
all it did was inspire me to reinstall thief 1 and 2 so i guess it wasnt a completely wasteful venture

>>102483424
>Muh coomer AI
>>102483426
>Muh inflated GPU price because I need everything over 1080p at 1.25ft of viewing distance.

You fucks amuze me. I remember buying a Voodoo 5500. Do you even AGP son?

>>102483511
i miss the simple days when my mx440 was more than enough

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>>102483398

>>102483514
Ikr? I still have my first "gaming rig" I built from scratch. An AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+ black edition and twin gtx 260 core 216 in SLi. Zoomies will never understand

>>102483165
>3090
>non-Ti
it was industrial waste from day one, ngmi

>>102483563
>rhyming grapes with grapes

2080TI for $250 or 3080ti for $400?

>>102484157
3080Ti, but also
>buying a card with less than 16GB of VRAM in current year

>>102484235
tf you gon use all that VRAM for sweaty?

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>>102484278
Machine learning, of course

vram is a meme just compress those textures lol

>>102484326
POST YOUR LATEST ML PROJECT RIGHT FUCKIN NOW

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should I clean my desktop bros, I still have alot of old programs I dont use....

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5090 28gb is gonna get mogged by the AI Max+ 395 96gb igpu soon

What are your worst PC building purchases and why did you regret them

>>102484379
I've been working on a framework that lets you easily train a binary classifier for a specific thing and then a browser extension which uses that model to completely filter out images containing that thing. Accuracy is ok (considering you have to choose your own images) but performance still isn't where I want it. I don't have a formal background in ML but I usually ask a couple of competent buddies to help me with it on weekends.
>post it
No, if and when it's ready I'll charge for it. It's been my dream to never have to see tranime on this website ever again and I'm not gonna just give it away for free.

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>>102484524
buying the cheapest nvme was a yuge mistake for me. shit broke in less than a year

>>102484524
buying an e-core processor
1ccx ryzen is just way better

>>102483563
fox

>>102484465
>craptop only socket

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>>102484631
mobile apus always make it to desktop in one form or another

>>102484524
Probably most of them in the last decade
>super high end motherboard
Got mediocre bin CPUs 3 times, couldn't overclock that much
>watercooler
Failed while I wasn't there, killed an entire system
>meme high end RAM
Barely a 2% increase in real world performance at 3 times the price
>Nvidia GPUs
Only recently they somewhat fixed Linux drivers, still have issues

>>102478100
>>102478121
>>102478131
>Ultra
There's your problem

>>102484691
strix halo will only be in mini pcs

>>102484691
the memory bus is too wide to squeeze through AM5

>>102484741
If the best GPU on the market can't do 4k@60 the game is trash, the devs should be whipped and the management shot.

>>102484774
It doesnt have to be on a desktop socket
Chinese companies have been putting laptop cpus onto (soldered bga) atx boards forever and recently, into NUCs

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Ram question
I have 2x8 , 16gb ram 3600mhz , I plan on upgrading to 32gb. Would I be able to pair the two 8gbs with the two 16gb, totaling 48gb ram (they all have the same speed and cl)

>>102484810
check your motherboard but probably yes

>>102484786
They should just make better GPUs then.

>>102484810
You can. Just make sure to install it in 8-16-8-16 order

>>102484825
Its a b550 so 4 channels, but how do i arrange it?
8,16,8,16 or 8,8,16,16

>Radeon HD 6000 series

AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6970 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6990 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon HD 7000 series

AMD Radeon HD 7850 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7970 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7990 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

>Radeon 200 series

AMD Radeon R9 280 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 280X - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 285 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 290X - 4 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

>Radeon 300 series

AMD Radeon R9 370 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 380 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390X - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

>Radeon 400 series

AMD Radeon RX 460 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 470 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 480 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon 500 series

AMD Radeon RX 560 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 570 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 580 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 590 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon RX 5000 series

AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit

>Radeon RX 6000 series

Radeon RX 6750 XT - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
Radeon RX 6800 XT - 16 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
Radeon RX 6900 XT - 16 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
Radeon RX 6950 XT - 16 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit

>Radeon RX 7000 series

Radeon RX 7800 XT - 16 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
Radeon RX 7900 GRE - 16 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
Radeon RX 7900 XT - 20 GB, GDDR6, 320 bit
Radeon RX 7900 XTX - 24 GB, GDDR6, 384 bit

AMD... forgotten

>>102484848
Oh thank you anon, time to set it up bye bye

>>102484465
>memory bandwidth of ram
meme for ai

>>102484858
slots aren't the same as channels.
8-16-8-16 should ensure you get dual channel.

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>>102484810
yes

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Rebuilt my pc in a mesh fractal north XL after having it in a corsair carbide 275q for years and I can confirm silent cases are a meme.

Went from 33C idle to 24C with 23.5C ambient (I didn't think something like this was even possible? Maybe my arduino temps for ambient are fucked). AVG temp under load of prime95 small FFTs went from ~85 with peaks in the mid 90s to avg 75 with peaks in the low 80s. It's plain amazing...

Using lga1700 contact frame with kryosheet and first gen NH-D15 on a 12700k with an undervolt of 0.095 for the approximately 0 people curious.

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do u guys like my computer

>>102485148
>>102485151
What are the GOAT air coolers

>>102485160
phantom spirit

>>102484589
wtf I bought that one...

>>102485160
the thermalright assassin series are the value GOAT, noctua is quality and noise GOAT

>>102485148
>build pc in silent case that plugs up holes to stop sound leaking
>gee i wonder why the thermals arent as good as this case with more holes in it than a sieve

>>102485176
phantom spirit mogs peerless assassin

noctua is a meme, noise and endurance are not offset by price differential

>>102485189
>>102485167
What is the best Thermalright?

>>102485151
yes

>>102485176
>>102485189
>Phantom Spirit
>Peerless Assassin
>Royal Knight

What's the difference

>>102485151
LEDs bad, turn them off.
>>102485160
If you don't care about noise, AK720. If you don't care about money, NH-D15 G2. If you somewhat care about both of those things it depends on CPU TDP but you get one of the Assassins.

>>102485239
>Phantom Spirit
>Peerless Assassin
Basically the same. The PS120 has an extra heatpipe and marginally outperforms the PA. Worth an extra $5 or so.
>Royal Knight
Looks like a PA120 with thinner fan and offset for RAM clearance. Likely underperforms relative to the other two but valuable if you have tall RAM. Compare with Fuma 2/3.

>>102485185
yes but the mesh case ends up more silent due to lower rpm for the same temps, that's why it's a meme

>>102485209
phantom spirit

>>102485248
i cant turn the gpu rgb off without running the armory crate malware service kek dont buy asus holy shit

>Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III 360
>7800X3D

What can we expect from the temps

>>102485435
What are the pros and cons of ASUS, MSI, GIGABYTE, ASRock

>>102485435
just use openrgb

>>102485458
still bloat

>>102485443
they all suck its over

7800X3D is now more expensive than ever what gives

>>102485492
Nobody wants to wait for 9800X3D

>>102485492
no one wants intel or zen5

>>102485497
when is it even coming out? wtf is amd waiting for?

>>102485504
>no one wants intel or zen5

Explain

>>102485548
>wtf is amd waiting for?

They want to see what Intel will do first

>>102485566
zen5 is trash and everyone is spooked my intel degraded and rusting cpus

>>102485436
They're going to be "high" relative to what you might expect from the power consumption because the cache insulates the cores and the boost algo pumps frequency based on available cooling.
What you actually want to look for on Ryzen is that you saturate the relevant power limit (PPT/TDC/EDC) before hitting the temp limit. If you're hitting 100% PPT at 70C then your cooler is doing a fine job (and you can turn the fans down for lower noise). OTOH if you're scraping against TjMax while the CPU is limiting itself to 60W then you have a problem - either inadequate cooling or, more likely in this case, bad fitment.

>>102484881
Honestly, even though I don't use GFE to install drivers; I just won't get an AMD GPU because of Adrenaline

>>102485585
>zen5 is trash

What's wrong with it

>>102485583
totally crush them with tsmc's 3nm monolithic 24core?
it's really dumb to wait after arrow lake because at that point it's only going to be DOA.

>>102485492
It became apparent that 9800x3d can't be that much faster than the previous gen when 9700 was revealed.

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>>102485585
is it really?

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>>102474315
I still use gtx 1070 bought second hand in 2018 for 120 euro

This gpu is still the goat

I was considering upgrading but new CPUs seem kind of dogshit
5900x is not the best thing but I want an actual leap, I guess I'll wait until it dies