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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F, 7600X
Gaming: 7800X3D
Workstation: 7900X, 9950X
AVOID: Intel 13/14 series

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT
4K: RTX 4090, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
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>>102493657
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>>102502931
>AVOID: Intel 13/14 series
>DDR5: 6400CL32 (Intel)
You're not running 6400cl32 on anything 12th gen OP
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>>102502887
I recently went from a 7600k to a 7600X and I feel like I time traveled to the 22nd century, I can't comprehend something faster than a 7800X3D right now.
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>>102502876
Zen 4c Epycs already have 16 core chiplets.
And no, cucksumers will not get them.
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>>102502978
i went from a q6600+8800gt to a 7800x3d+4080s so its like im in another dimension at this point
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I have a question for anons who use AIO's, what is the oldest working one you've seen/still using? Anecdotal experience is fine

I just replaced mine after 8 years, I thought it was still good because I didn't have any weird pump noises/software was still reading out a RPM/no complete shut downs but I was getting terrible temps at load/idle and even downclocking which got worse after installing a new GPU.
I'm guessing it got gunked up inside and during that shifting the gunk must have moved to the radiator blocking some channels because one of the tubes started getting real hot during peak loads and only 1/4th of the radiator was getting warm while the CPU/Pump block was hot to the touch.

My prior experiences with AIO failures (not mine but through work) have usually been more catastrophic, leaking or straight up pump failure where you notice because your PC shuts down, mine was working just with really bad temps.
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>>102502887
why do you need an upgrade from 7800x3d?
>>102502950
Some people might not have avoided them
or choose not to anyway
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>>102503016
>y do you need an upgrade from 7800x3d?
if its a good enough jump in performance, why not?
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I went from a Pentium II+Voodoo 2 to a 7800X3D + 4090. its okay.
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Anons help again, Ive been tinkering with fan layout of the ap201 since last time.

>Last configuration was a stable 60-65c during normal gameplay

Now Im trying a rear+ bottom intake
Question is how would I place the fans on the cooler
Push , pull or both?
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>>102503094
Is your psu airflow not separate?
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>>102503094
have you considered this layout?
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>>102503120
The psu fans is facing outwards so it can take in air
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>>102503091
You should play Madden 25, just so you can be the one person impressed by its innovations.
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>>102503134
My psu takes in air from bottom & pushes it out the back without mixing with the rest of the airflow in the case & I thought that was the norm
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How far are we from the RTX 50XX series announcement?
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>>102502931
850w lol

i run 7800X3D and 4080 on 750w no prob
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>>102503226
ces 2025
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>>102503004
went from shintel 3770+gt620 to 7800x3d+rx6800xt, the pc can finally play games but other than that I don't see that much of a difference
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>>102503353
how come? Nvidia usually does sep/oct/nov releases. Releasing a GPU in January is kinda stupid of them, they're missing out on a lot of Q4 sales.
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>>102503401
theres tsmc node availability that dictates some things
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>>102503410
wdym? tmsc is booked for years in advance
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>>102503475
yeah so people guesstimated 50xx to launch in 2025 years in advance
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why do you need a high end gpu when all the games suck ass? 3060 can run everything that matters. are you really so far gone you actually consoom all the latest slop that's coming out?

you're too young to have played even half of the good older games that will max out even with a gtx 970
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>>102503264
I run my 7800x3d + 3090 on a 650w
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How did Intel flop so bad these last two gens? They have problems I'd never even consider a CPU would have, warping, crashing, fucking oxidization, what the hell happened?
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>>102503516
I don't play any game from this decade but still buy high end GPUs, it's comfy
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>>102503653
Their best engineers left for apple 10 years ago
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>>102503653
A firm run by accountants not engineers. It's cheaper to make a 2-point ILM so the big IHS warps. It's cheaper to overclock the last gen so the silicon degrades. I'll give them the BoD on the oxidation issue though; bad batches happen.
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>>102503516
I bought a 24GB card for "AI research".
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>>102503226
Stocks looking extremely thin for 4090’s and there’s rumor that production is shutting down. I think they announce this week, since it’s been this week historically
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>>102502931
i7 8700
16gb ram
Gtx970

Think my PC will be able to play the upcoming metal gear solid 3 remake lol
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>>102503676
consoomer cope
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>>102503760
>cunny research
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what should my 7800x3d temps look like with a noctua nh-d15

its not that bad but looking online everyone gives different answers on whats normal and its pissing me off. i know its always gonna be different but id like to hear opinions from "slightly" less retarded people. thanks
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Is Silverstone da750 gold any good?
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>>102504048
under 85
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>>102504048
Anything below tjmax (which is 89c) is fine.
>https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d.html
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>>102503760
Hi res deep nudes of your coworkers, neighbors? It can be one of the first apps for a Google glass kinda device.
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>>102502931
I want to upgrade to 64gb of ram for MSFS2024.
I currently have 32GB of DDR5 6000MHz CL30
What's better, buy another 2 sticks like the ones I already have or sell them and buy 2x 32GB sticks?
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>>102504048
I heard the new processor go upto 95 and then set clock and power consumption automatically based on the cooling setup available.
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>>102504156
depends on how much the second option will cost you and how unlucky you are
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>>102504048
my peerless assassin 120 in a fractal north goes to 81-82C° at max load during summer. (I used too little thermal paste)
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>>102503760
I also bought a 24GB card and was pleasantly surprised with how nice Flux is
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>>102504174
the second option would be 245€ While the first option is 137€. I often heard that 4 sticks of ram are not ideal tho.
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>>102504171
95c is regular zen4, the x3d parts have a lower max temp.
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>>102504052
check hardwarebusters psu tier list
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>>102504234
Danke, the spec said 89c.
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>>102504143
>>102504146
>>102504171
>>102504179
thanks. my cpu reaches around 82-86c during max load because i only have one fan on rn, i couldnt figure out how to get it on when i built it but i figured it out now. will put it on when i get some isopropyl alcohol.
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>>102504239
nta, This is the first time Ive heard of hardwarebuster. Is it good or more reliable than thecultist tier list?
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>>102504209
but how much would you get if you sold the pair?
If you can get like 100-105 it's a decent option, if you get like 90 it's eh, you're likely better off dealing with returns and whatever if the ram doesn't work full speed
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>>102504320
it's in the OP, I checked it out a while back & it seems like they solely suggest like 3-5 PSUs per power range so I think it's significantly less useful than the cultist list, but hey it's up to date
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>>102504156
>sell them and buy 2x 32GB sticks?
Do this
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Ryzen 8600G or 8500G?
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>>102502931
>Corsair PSU
OHNONONONONO
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>companies are putting two 12VHPWR in their new PSUs

there can only be one reason for this
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>>102502931
How is the AI so relative to the real thing, I thought it catches only data up to 2021
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>>102504471
If you're not using a GPU, 8600G's performance seems way better
if you are using a GPU, 8500G seems enough for the moment, but the 8600G will serve you for a longer time
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>>102504505
yeah.
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>>102504505
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>>102504537
1200w, but realistically each connector shouldn't have more than 300-350w going through it. 600w was insane.
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>>102504548
>600w was insane
only to run through one connector
two should solve the problem and make 600W perfectly fine
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>>102504557
Yes sorry my post was worded shittily that is what I meant. This is 100% a correction of trying to shunt way too much amperage through a smaller gauge of wire.
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>>102504505
5090 will drain a lot watts
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7700 XT or 7800 XT? I have a 970.
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>>102504591
and it still cannot max out games at 4k with respectable frames
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>>102504156
More sticks = more strain on the CPU's memory controller. Your kit is rated for 2x16 @6000, not 4x16 @6000. So if you go with 4x16, you may need to manually adjust timings to have it run at 6000.
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>>102504674
1080p or 1440p?
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>>102504994
1080p
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>>102502931
New slop just dropped
any gpu slower than the 4070 is only good for 720p
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>>102505076
then unless you're pushing crazy framerates, 7700xt should be enough for most games. It's also better value per dollar
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>>102505140
>xtx that close to 4090
I suspect any of the decent OC models you get you 4090 performance.
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>>102504948
thanks, I didn't know that
>>102504396
Dunno, usually I just put stuff on ebay at 50-70% of what I bought them for and let people bid. I'm tempted to just invest the money and build a separate PC for the living room tv
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>>102505208
>and build a separate PC for the living room tv
there's likely better options like just running a cable or using that steam streaming shit than building an entirely new pc of similar quality
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>>102501425
how is this bait?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QjP28
aside from the gpu i wanted, what's wrong with the parts?
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Day 535 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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Why doesn't anyone make passively cooled GPUs anymore? The latest I could find was a passive gt 1030, but that came out forever ago
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>>102505594
The low power market got obliterated by the advancements in igpus.
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>>102505353
change motherboard to a sensible x670e and choose 6000 cl30 ram kit
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>>102505353
Shit choice for cpu
that cooler probably won't cool the cpu
black mobo with white build???
who the fuck uses 48gb of ram and why is it so fucking expensive? You can get 64gb 6000mhz for 100 bucks less. Mobo doesn't support ram speeds of 8200 anyway
overpriced ssd for most people
case looks like shit
PSU is okay but has better options that are cheaper or same price


Every single part is bait
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dm8wTY

Mostly gaming, would like to play space marine maxed out. The processor is simply on sale and can hopefully have room to upgrade cpu in the future if I want. Is it worth it to jump up to the 7900 XT or even go nvidia 4080 or something and go 1440p for the monitor? Is it worth it for games? Budget isn't really an issue, but I also don't need to build a super computer. Also its canada so likely using newegg if you guys have any tips for actually ordering.
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>>102505800
>asus
really? you're not baiting?
>>102505862
>that cooler probably won't cool the cpu
ok fair, so an aio cooler it is
>black mobo with white build???
most of the time you won't even see the mobo , but i guess that is fair too
>who the fuck uses 48gb of ram and why is it so fucking expensive?
>expensive
it's not a budget build, and 200$ isn't expensive desu
>overpriced ssd for most people
i think your issue is mainly with the budget?
>case looks like shit
:p
>PSU is okay but has better options that are cheaper or same price
what are the better options?
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>>102506197
kill yourself fucking dyslexic retard
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does it make any sense to buy an xtx right now? to pair with a 12700k

i feel like rdna4 isn't going to improve on it and who cares about RT honestly

only thing holding me back is 750W PSU but maybe it'll be ok
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>>102506099
you should get 4070 super or wait for 5080 in q1
and yeah x3d is much better but if your cpu is cheap its prob not a huge deal
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>>102506218
what's wrong with you?
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>>102506197
NTA but my build is white/silver and the IO shields on black mobos are often a metallic finish that doesn't look out of place in a white case
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Any indications yet if Arrow Lake will run DDR5 at higher speeds than the currently recommended 6400MT/s?
Tempted to pick up a 7200MT/s kit before the "new build rush" if I see a good price
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>>102506099
Don't buy windows, unless it's for work, see >>102443314

Just in case you live close to the border, how long would a trip be to a micro center?
You can make big savings getting a bundle there even after paying the tax upon reentering the country, plus it lets you grab the 7600x3d.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4dQCfy
Here's what I'd put together based on ca prices. I don't know shit about monitors or coolers though so I stayed with what you picked.
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>>102506197
>what are the better options?
be quiet! Dark Power 13 850W for one

>i think your issue is mainly with the budget?
No, it's that you're spending it poorly
You can get more ram, better cooler, better motherboard, better psu, more case fans and a better case without losing any noticeable performance. Alternatively, you could put that money towards buying a better GPU or towards upgrades sooner in the future than you were planning.
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>>102506275
Rumors are saying 9200-10000mt/s is the limit for those CPUs
The sweetspot may well be 8000-8800mt/s
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speaking of pre-buying components, any word on socket 1851 compatibility with 1700 cooler mounting kits?
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>>102506357
noctuachads are already in the clear, everyone else lives in the shadow of uncertainty
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>>102506272
>>102506321
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rcnsyg
so i replaced the mobo, and the cooling with an aio and optted for the cheaper 32gb ram
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I looked at glossy oled laptops yesterday and today and yeah matte ips slop looks washed in comparision yeah
every retail sales cuck also uses an iphone and barely anyone uses android

pic rel8 I also still need to buy a new good router/ap
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Is there any ARGB controller hub that has these 2 things?
>can be remotely controlled (preferably with bluetooth)
>not generic chinesium
All the usual brands with ARGB controllers like corsair, Razer, nzxt, etc all use USB to communicate.

I want RGB on my NAS that has 9x 120mm fans and I do have a bitspower ARGB controller that works but I can't remotely control it.
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i've only built a pc when intel wins the cpu war like 6th gen and 12th. i think i'm going to build a pc in 15th gen so...
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Convince me not to get the NH D15 G2
I will be using it for an 8600g expecting nothing but absolute silence
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Currently using a ryzen 7 3800x and gtx 1080
can I get away with just upgrading my gpu, or will the cpu become a massive bottleneck and I'll be better off just starting fresh?
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>>102506357
>>102506396
doesn't every semi respectable brand send out brackets for new sockets for free?

>>102506426
>7900xtx
In your budget there's literally no reason to go AMD. They make budget cards. Go 4080 super at the very least. Gives both better rasterization performance but the main advantage is the FAR superior DLSS & RT functionality. Even if you're not up for it at the moment, you might be in the future

Also look at the warnings at the bottom.
You're missing a usb header (if you even care), your mobo might not support your CPU out of the box and your PSU might not have the cable for your case fan's control hub thingy (not sure if they work without that)
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>>102506529
The Noctua NH-P1 is better suited to your needs, my friend
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>>102506529
if your goal is to run silent then you are also gonna let your components run as hot as possible to save on noise
and you are not gaining anything from that compared to other coolers really
autismal things like noise profile comes into play
idk
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>>102506529
patrician choice
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>>102505140
>1080p
>medium
>100fps on a 4090

good luck PS5 PRO
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>>102505140
oh no I can't play soulless square slop what will I do
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>>102506281
I am not close to the border unfortunately. I also forgot the throw in the question of if coolers are worth it or can I just stick with fans for the most part these days?
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>>102505140
>it's a "benchmark" where only current gen cards are compared
I hate PC hardware """""journalism""""" so much it's unreal
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>>102506601
you need a cooler 100%. Some CPUs come with a stock cooler, the 7700x & 7900X don't as far as I know. Their performance is also EH
If you meant if you need an AIO, you likely don't, just grab a decent air cooler for like 30$ if you don't mind some noise
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>>102506219
anyone got a second opinion on pulling the trigger on this
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>>102506553
I did consider that at first, but Noctua lists it as incompatible with the 8600g at base clock. Fans at low rpm, especially Noctua, are inaudible anyway
>>102506553
Not necessary, the d15 g2 is more than enough for the 8600g, I wouldn't need to throttle the CPU or let it run at 95c just to have it be quiet, maybe that would be the case if I used the stock wraith cooler
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>>102506690
Second response meant for >>102506558
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hello computer people help me pick psu for
https://www.asus.com/us/commercial-servers-workstations/kgped16/
needs dual eps
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>>102506539
5800x3d and a 4070 would get you by for probably another 3-4 years without having to start from scratch
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I'm looking to upgrade from a 8700k. I have a 3070, so will only be upgrading the motherboard and RAM thus my budget isn't really an issue. I've only used AMD in specialty builds (entertainment station, shit like that), but are they what's best for gaming right now? 7900X3d or what?

I don't pay close attention to this anymore. I play some new releases and a ton of CPU demanding games.
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>>102506857
7800x3d will very likely do everything you want
if you live close to a microcenter, even their 7600x3d will likely do everything you want
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>>102506672
itty bitty titties and a bob
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is the 24 to 6/8 pins adapter safe?
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>>102506857
Not really a great time to upgrade CPU. Even at stock the 8700K isn't horrible, in between an R5 3600 and R5 5600. Right now the 7800X3D is massively overpriced relative to its historical pricing. Yes, you could buy one, and it would be a substantial upgrade over your current CPU, and it would make your system faster in CPU demanding games, but it's not going to help you play most modern releases. The GPU's performance is the limiting factor in modern games, even with the older CPU.

>>102506426
>>102506219
99% chance the 7900 XTX is a retarded purchase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s

>>102506898
>>102506281
>7600x3d
I haven't seen any real reviews of this chip. The Microcenter bundle is tempting, CPU, 32 GB DDR5, and a decent motherboard for $450
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>>102506099
CPU is retarded for gaming. You don't buy a two CCD chip for gaming. Your choices are 7600 or 7800X3D, the later being currently overpriced. If you're buying a new monitor, not worth buying 1080p. 1440p at minimum. They're cheap and fairly easy to drive. The Q27G3XMN is basically the default choice for a 1440p monitor.

>>102505140
Seems that the game puts a variable load on GPU. Regardless, all games are designed with reconstruction in mind, so if the 4070 can run 1080p at 60 FPS, it can be used for 1440p DLSS Quality and 4K DLSS Performance without problems. 1440p DLSS Quality is good performance target for 1440p, and 4K DLSS Performance would be considered a budget target for 4K.

>>102504674
Neither

>>102504156
Unnecessary
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>>102502931
Are there any 1080p monitors that aren't LCD? Are there few TVs that go over 60hz that are worth using as monitors?
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>>102507399
the resident tranny is back. Still hiding from recruitment kidnappers in your Omsk basement?
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>>102506426
Definitely ditch the 7900XTX for a 4080 super. You're over spending on the AIO and fans, I know you don't care about your budget but that is nearly $150 you can put somewhere else by swapping to arctic. They even have a White option, sis.
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>>102507456
What makes a weakling like you seethe so much over DLSS?

My current theory is that you thought you gamed the system and saved yourself $20 by buying a Radeon graphics card, only to discover that you cheated yourself
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>>102507545
Reminder DLSS FG is completely broken in this game

the most broken implementation and it's the best quality
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>>102507443
Not worth buying a 1080p monitor today.

>>102507613
Honestly crazy that the devs released the game with DLSS FG simply not working. Pure incompetence, but incompetence is all that can be expected from these blue haired shitheads with no penalties for their failures
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DLSS is much better than all other AA techniques, better than native textures and miles better than every other upscaling technique. You would be crazy not to be buying Nvidia RTX card. It's the only thing that makes games usable at all.
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even with bad DLSS titles you can just use FSR frame gen with Nvidia GPUs, there's literally no downsides to it (outside of the retarded price)
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>>102502931
>GPU
>Workstation: AVOID AMD cards
could i get a tl;dr for why? was looking at amd because i'm looking to put together a linux gaming setup and i hear amd has much better driver support.
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>>102503516
>why do you need a high end gpu when all the games suck ass?
my TV needs hdmi 2.1
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>>102507335
>I haven't seen any real reviews of this chip.
well it's worse than 7800x3d which is expected & apparently above 9700x and 14900k, so basically it should have everything you need
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>>102507399
>Unnecessary
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>>102507912
You'd have to be retarded to believe those spec sheets
You won't need 64 GB RAM
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>>102507943
>You'd have to be retarded to believe those spec sheets
Are you retarded? Have you even played the MSFS2020?
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>>102507943
At everything maxed out in VR I'm already at 30-31GB ram utilization. It's not that weird that it's gonna need 64GB now
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>>102507969
I have not
But I can tell you that the new one won't need 64 GB RAM
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKr9sh

ok after doing my research, this is my starting point in terms of price and not entirely just scratch the budget but a good, budget starting poitn for 1440p gaming or maybe 4k in some cases, am I fucking up somewhere?
the hardest part is understanding motherboards so far all I see is wifi/no wifi

Also to avoid any further upgrades sooner, hence why I didnt went cheaper with the 5500x
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>>102507984
>utilization
Just because something sprawls out across your RAM doesn't mean all that RAM is actually needed. Applies to both vRAM and sysRAM
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>>102508017
>to avoid any further upgrades sooner
I'd go with chinese 5700x3d
>budget starting poitn for 1440p
is at half your price with 6800 or 7700
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do you guys actually buy chinkslop from aliexpress or is it a meme?
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>>102508152
oh
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>>102508090
aliexpress is essentially just as safe amazon for purchases, and you rarely get scammed by chinks anymore unless you buy products with 0 reviews.

chinese brands will entirely dominate the market in most domains within a few years from now, the value proposition (and actual quality products) compared to western brands has become too crazy to ignore.
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I keep feeling like the sensible thing to do is buy Nvidia, but their near monopoly sits wrong with me and it stirs my contrarian side to go AMD...
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>>102507879
thanks, that sucks. seems like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario if i want to stick to linux.
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What's the difference between the Gigabyte aorus b650 v1 & v2?
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Why is it so hard to find motherboard information
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>>102508056
>call of duty
please stop comparing apple to oranges
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>>102508224
amazon is all chinese crap now anyway their only advantage is shipping time which they want to overcharge prime members for so they can make more lord of the rings episodes
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>>102508585
What's so hard about going to the manufacturer's motherboard specs page?
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>>102508593
Please stop believing RAM utilization
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I built my machine in 2020 and have never cleaned it. Should I even bother if I don't have any issues with temps?
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>>102508598
I hate them. All this should be centralized on one motherboard information site for all brands for immediate comparisons. And nobody benchmarks them.
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>>102508585
For the most detailed information go to each SKU's spec page on the vendor website like so:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10-11/sp#sp
For reviews I refer to HUB's mega-roundups for VRM testing (he also goes over feature sets for each board), example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUVW7wgR3s&t=75s

When you are shopping for boards, PCP lets you find current market pricing for the boards filtered by Socket/Chipset of your CPU choice and certain broad features like # of SATA ports:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/

However, if you want detailed cross-shopping feature set comparison info I like using Newegg's Motherboard Power Search tool:
https://www.newegg.com/d/Product/PowerSearch?SubCategory=280&N=100007627&IsNodeId=1
^That lets you filter out boards by # of rear I/O USB ports (whether they are USB 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, etc.), # of PCIe slots of what Gen speed and lanes, etc.

Once you get an idea of what features you really want/need it makes zero'ing in on the best priced board with PCP easier. And if you still have questions see the individual SKU's product page as mentioned above for things like what LAN chip or Audio Codec is being used if you are interested in getting that deep in the woods.
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how does the airflow work in these type of fish tank cases? normally you'd put front and back on your mesh case with one on the top near the back one for extra exhaust
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>>102508224
aliexpress might be even safer if you stick to big sellers with good score, because "fulfillment by amazon" allows repackage refund scams that get sold back to other customers regardless of seller.
ali has no shared physical presence, every seller needs to have his own storage and logistics.
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>>102508614
>Please stop pointing out to me that my shitty 4070 that I got by tonguing jensen's anus 24/7 for months has the same amount of RAM as 6 year old cards
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>>102508763
it doesn't
the computer is not for looking at
repent zoomer
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Nvidia is going to finally upgrade the vram for the 50 series, right?
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Take the mITX pill
You get better memory stability and speeds over shitty 4 DIMM boards
>but 2 DIMM ATX boards
Wasted space and decades late
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>>102508850
oh no I have a normal case which I have no intention of changing for now, I'm just wondering how it works is all
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>>102508854
no localgen for the goyim
you WILL subscribe to the cloud service
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>>102508763
I assume its static pressure based, pulls in all the air from the side and bottom and the rear and top push it out?
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>>102508768
This reminds me when Chia was the new fad and people were hammering their SSDs, then returning it to Amazon on the last possible day. Unaware customers would receive these halfway burned out drives. Wonder how many never noticed because not everyone runs Crystaldiskinfo first thing upon installing a new SSD (you should)
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>>102508877
I don't live in singapore so I don't have to cuck out for SFFPC
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>>102508877
>Unironically paying more for less
>but muh DIMMs
Stop buying shitty boards
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how bad is the QD-OLED purple tint? trying to figure out whether I buy the AW2725DF or XG27AQDMG (both same price).
I prefer Dell in general cause of the warranty but I have a window right behind me and my room is moderately lit
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>>102508879
I think they do some retardation like intake on top AND bottom, to vent it out through the side fans.
Maybe you could go for a vertical GPU and go bottom intake and top exhaust.
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>>102505140
>Squeenix shit out yet another poorly optimized PC port
Say it aint so
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>>102508987
>but I have a window right behind me and my room is moderately lit
Does the window have curtains or a shade (or can you throw a sheet over it)? If it does, shouldn't be a problem and the QD-OLED will have better colors, sharpness, and responsiveness from the 360 vs 240 Hz bump in refresh rate.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/dell-alienware-aw2725df-vs-asus-rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg/46678/61784
If not, then yeah the WOLED would be better.
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>>102502931
How can I disable rarely used HDD's in my PC?

There are still 2 HDD's in my PC I use for archive purposes. Data is accessed maybe once a week, the rest of the time it generates noise and heat.
How can I disable or hot swap the drive when not in use? Optimal would be a software solution.
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Building this in a FormD (reference style not sandwich) for 1080p gaming, any suggestions or critiques? Budget's around $1.5k so I've still got some wiggle room.
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>>102509122
sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sdX
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>>102509122
You can put the drives to sleep after N minutes through power management - default is 20 mins in balanced within windows.
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two more weeks until arrow lake saves intel
trust the plan
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>>102509122
>open device manager
>right click on unused hdd - disable
???
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>>102508838
>muh vram
Seething Radeontards will never learn

>>102508854
I think full GB202 is supposed to have 32 GB, so that might translate down the stack
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>>102509122
unused HDD should park the head and go to sleep mode on its own
if it's spinning, that means glowies are browsing your hentai collection
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>>102509216
arrow lake and battlemage will bankrupt AMD
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>>102509257
The only one seething here is you, shillbot.
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>>102509108
I can control the lighting pretty easily, I just don't really like playing in pitch dark. I mostly wonder how it actually looks in non-exaggerated scenario
I'll probably go for QD-OLED anyways since it's better for everything else, I already own a C2 so I'll game on that if it's bad during the day
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>>102509368
QD-OLED monitors are dimmer than your C2. I went from a 42inch C2 on my desk to a PG32UCDM. HDR performance is noticeably worse.
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>>102505183
Fine wine is getting ready
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I bought a 12700kf on Amazon sold and shipped by them at 194 on September 12. They canceled my order out of nowhere and I had to order it again, said it arrives on October 2. Now I entered the product page and again, sold and shipped by them it now says it arrives at September 27. What gives? Is there a shortage or something
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>>102509475
Meanwhile
Must be nice to know your graphics card can play PS4 games
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>>102509234
have to restart the PC
>>102509159
I use windows btw
>>102509164
as it is usual with windows it spins up the drives after some time for no apparent reason
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>>102509499
Suddenly gamegpu isn't reliable huh. Odd that.
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>>102509433
>99% of them are purely aesthetical
>the aesthetics are turbo-virgin tier
>they add cost for no reason
>they add heat for no reason
>they require bloatware to run and the bloatware is not even standardized across manufacturers

Do you need more?
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>>102509485
never reorder
you go and talk to their customer service immediately bitching and demanding compensation
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How do I do cable management...
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>>102509455
yeah that's about what I expected, but it should still be better than the WOLED monitors
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>>102509566
Basically don't - just pull the cables through the closest grommet on the front and leave the rear of the case a spaghetti western.
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Radeon cards are nicer looking than nvidia ones
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>>102509518
It's Radeon biased, apparently
Just remember that
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>>102509576
WOLED is only brighter when displaying pure white, QD-OLED displays every other component color with more brightness and with higher purity:
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs
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>>102509503
>have to restart the PC
You don't
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Which is the better upgrade for a 6700xt, 7900 gre or 4070 super? The 7900 is cheaper with better models
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>>102509657
If you had a 3060 Ti or a 3070 you wouldn't have had to upgrade yet
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>>102509657
If you don't care about Ray-Tracing or decent image quality go for the 7900GRE and save a few bucks lmfao.
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>>102509499
>14900k
Ngmi
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>>102509676
If you actually owned a 3070 you wouldn't say that
t. 3070 owner
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>>102509676
3060Ti is a shit card that is beaten by cheaper AMD cards. Basically a 1080Ti with tensor-cores, and less VRAM, useless in 2024.
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>>102509657
For raw rasterised performance 7900gre is the best choice here
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>>102509679
How will the image equality be better? I don't care about gay tracing
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>>102502931
>buy IPS monitor
>back bleed
like clockwork. I'm honestly kinda lazy and don't want to return it yet, is it true that it lessons after a while?
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>>102509724
FSR vs DLSS. At this price point you are forced into using some form of upscaling for any modern game. FSR is garbage.
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>>102509725
ips monitors have poor contrast
why buy them if you care about image quality?
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>>102509741
Is it possible to use DLSS on any game?
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>>102509749
I like IPS because there's zero reflection on them
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What gpu should I get if I only occastionally play AAA slop and mostly emulate/play old stuff at 1440p?
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>>102509753
More games have DLSS than FSR.
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>>102509770
you mean glossy vs matte coating or what
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>>102509776
>emulate
high end mid+
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>>102506540
>doesn't every semi respectable brand send out brackets for new sockets for free?
yes, noctuafags are morons.
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I just spent about $115 buying 5 Noctua fans
Am I retarded?
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>>102509749
honestly I'm a newfag and just wanted a good 144hz 1440p monitor below 200 bucks, I read a bit before about bleed issues but yeah it happened to me as well. LG UltraGear 27GN800P-B in my case. Colors are fine with Nvidia settings but black is kinda iffy
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>>102509802
probably.
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>>102509802
~silence is golden~
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>>102509803
its a bit of you want ips if you're going for a cheap one, since cheap VA tend to suck for black smear
Then recent-ish miniled VA is better choice for a middleground before you get to Oled prices
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>>102509499
god i need to replace my 5700 but i've been fence sitting so long i'm not sure if it's worth getting current gen
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>>102509824
I see, shilling out 100 bucks more wouldn't be that much of an issue so should I try the Dell G2724D instead as suggested in the OP? It's about 260 bucks here in Euroland
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>>102509802
you could have spent 35 on the arctic instead
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>>102509867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE0tQ6fYkOw

check that things pricing for your area
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>>102509719
>For raw rasterised performance
Too bad that's dead.
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>>102509703
>Basically a 1080Ti
You're retarded
Don't you see the 2080 Ti below the 3060 Ti here >>102509676

>3060Ti is a shit card that is beaten by cheaper AMD cards
Also wrong and retarded

>less VRAM
Who cares?

>with tensor-cores
Ah yes, the reason it shits on Radeon cards

>>102509696
3070 owners aren't forced to upgrade yet, but the card is nearing the end of its usable life if you care about higher performance or the best image quality

>>102509719
Cyberpunk 2077 is a raster outlier for Radeon. Additionally, DLSS is better than native in Cyberpunk 2077, and it's a game with meaningful RT. Obviously you'd have to be retarded to buy anything but a Geforce card if you want to play it
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>>102509897
I've been dropping settings uncomfortably low for at least a year now. 3060ti and 3070 were planned obsolescence cards.
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>>102509891
playing older dx9 and early dx11 games in 4k with high fps is a thing zoomie
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>>102509897
Because it's not listed, are you autistic by chance? You spend most of your day defending Nvidia, has to be some aspie obsession.
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>>102509996
>most of your day

I always see him defending novideo when I open /g/. He is either a paid shill or literally a schizo.
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>>102510033
it's not like /g/ doesn't have many schizos
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>>102509996
he gets paid
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>>102509996
>Because it's not listed
The 1080 Ti? So you're really retarded enough to believe that a 1080 Ti is above a 2080 Ti. You have a similar IQ to >>102509919, who thinks that "his" (if he ever even owned one) three year old graphics card should be able to use max settings forever, and then claims it's a planned obsolescence card even though it's far better than anything the competition offered
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What would increase the room temperature more, an underperforming cooler that keeps the CPU/GPU at like 90 degrees, or a cooler that works really well and keeps them at 50-60?
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>>102510218
its the same amount of heat going into the room
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>>102510218
Heat != temperature, retard. Your cooler removes heat from the CPU and your case then vents that heat into your room. Your room temperature will be similar either way. What matters is the heat the CPU puts out, so you need to control the CPU you get or use some type of restricted TDP mode (which often won't reduce performance substantially)
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>>102510191
You'll never actually be intelligent, only imitation. Keep rotting in these threads every moment of everyday you ghoul.
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>>102510308
Don't call me a retard for asking a simple question, fuck you
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>>102510327
I'm smarter than you
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>>102509631
device manager does always bring up a window where it want's to restart my PC
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>7800x3d
>idle temp 38 degrees C
>play Helldivers 2
>back down at idle, idle temp is now permanently 41
>play it another day
>back down at idle, idle temp is now 43
>whut

Okay, looks like it is going back down towards 40 ish at least, and isn't permanent, but so slowly. Why does it go down from 55-60 degrees so quickly after turning off a game, and then take ages to lose those extra 2-3 degrees? Should I throw my computer in the bin and start again?
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>>102509802
duno, probably. i spent 400$ on a used 3080ti - how'd I do?
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>>102510576
Stop worrying about it.
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What's the best SSD upgrade for this fucker?

I'm broke as shit but I need more than a measly half TB so I can play my 500+ GB gooner skyrm modlists

990 pro 4TB is $300
Crucial P3 4TB is $230
they are both heavily discounted

I have 15 dollars in my bank account and no job btw
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>>102510576
this >>102510614
I'd say those are completely normal numbers. Now if you were idling at like, 55 or higher then yeah
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>>102510662
But is there anyway slightly stressing the CPU would change it so that its idle temperatures start rising. I haven't had it that long. 43 is 5 degrees more than 38 when I had it first running a month ago. It doesn't look dusty or anything in there either.
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>>102510576
>>7800x3d
is this really THE best for gayming?
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>>102510720
Technically the 7950x3d is the best but that comes with caveats.
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>>102510749
higher power consumption?
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>>102503032
because at this moment anything more is a retarded overkill, its upgrading for the sake of upgrading, borderline waste of money
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>>102510799
Potentially but the main challenge is keeping games to the relevant ccd.
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YOU ALL should look at trusted benchmarks for real info, not one person's potentially biased perspective. For example, some people will tell you that Raytracing matters, some won't. Some will say AMD drivers are bad, some won't. Some say nvidia is better because they have DLSS3 and frame gen without realizing that AMD has the same features. If you want real performance results check Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus benchmarks to get factual results.
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>>102510849
>without realizing that AMD has the same features
You gave yourself way, Radeontard-kun
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>>102510660
you won't notice any difference. just buy crucial because it costs less, and crucial is a solid name brand.
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>>102510893
It is advisable to consult reliable benchmarks for accurate information rather than relying on an individual's potentially biased viewpoint. For instance, opinions vary on the significance of ray tracing; some individuals emphasize its importance while others do not. Similarly, there are differing views on the quality of AMD drivers. Additionally, some may argue that NVIDIA is superior due to its DLSS3 and frame generation capabilities, overlooking the fact that AMD offers comparable features. For genuine performance evaluations, it is recommended to refer to benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus to obtain objective results.
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>>102509138
bumo
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>>102502931
Looking for a somewhat higher end mobo of which to carry my 5800X3D for the next above-half-decade, however motherboards in the range of the X570 Taichi Razer Edition (just, yknow, the minor improvements over the Taichi as there is no window) have all but disappeared from the Norwegian market and around, so I'm considering buying used from China if a better opportunity does not present itself.
Been using versus.com to more quickly compare various potential alternatives to keep a lookout for, so far found:
>X570 Taichi Razer Edition (The one I wanted initially)
>(asus) ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
>ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
>MSI MEG X570 Godlike
Here's a not 100% accurate recreation of my build as-is (but the main parts are present):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cM32gB
Any extra information that AI would not find would be appreciated. I highly prefer that it be ATX because I like expansion slots, and I want the extra WiFi+Bluetooth backdoor to be included this time.
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>>102510928
>benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed
Can do
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What PSUs come with a really quiet fan? I don't know much about PSUs, but I remember seasonic having a reputation of putting really whiny and annoying fans in their power supplies
I know fanless PSUs are supposedly a thing, but I couldn't find any on Amazon or Newegg for whatever reason
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>>102510959
t is wise to refer to trustworthy benchmarks for precise information instead of depending on a potentially biased personal opinion. For example, perspectives on the importance of ray tracing differ; some people highlight its value, while others dismiss it. Likewise, opinions on the quality of AMD drivers are not uniform. Furthermore, some may claim that NVIDIA is better because of its DLSS3 and frame generation features, ignoring that AMD provides similar functionalities.
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>>102510959
>upscaling
where's the REAL benchmarks
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>>102510948
I forgot to re-add after I boiled it down that I actually do have a "living" order on Proshop for the X570 Taichi Razer, but it's been delayed like twice because that's just what those danes do, so it's a real gacha pull if they actually manage to get a fresh one for me, which is why I have my eye out for other options.
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whats the best option for 1440p on AMD's side? cause I feel like 7900XTX is a bit overkill
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>>102511101
7900GRE/7900XT
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>>102509122
That should be a setting in uefi under power management or peripherals.
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>>102511110
probably get the GRE then cause the 7900XT sapphire I wanted is still crazy expensive, even used
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>>102510959
2560 * 0.66 = 1.689
Is it 2008?
You have to reduce the resolution to an insane degree and still use ultra high settings to show that one game where the 7900gre is slower?
Now show native 1440p and mid/high settings as most people would realistically play the game.
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>updated my 14700k to 0x129 microcode
>undervolted it
>getting the same, if not slightly better, score in cinebench r23
nice
thanks anon for the tip about clock stretching.
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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG341CQP-QD-OLED-Monitor-Response/dp/B0CTRXPJMC
thoughts?
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>>102511148
7800XT is also an option but I would go with the GRE.
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redpill me on HDR monitors
Are they just a marketing scam or actually a worthwhile technology?
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>>102509433
I don't hate it... I have black PC on all red and a white PC that's all blue. No flashing, just solid colors.
I strongly dislike the flashing rainbow unicorn puke.
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>>102511244
whats the better option for the GRE red devil or Sapphire?
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>>102511264
HDR is more than just having parts of the screen getting eye-scorching bright, it is be able to correctly display MOAR COLOUR as well. This is also why the lower tiers of DisplayHDR (which applies to everything not an oled) are a waste of time as the panels are just not good enough. Oleds tend to be branded as a DisplayHDR True Black [number] and that is a very different beast.

Good HDR is incredible to look at. Not so good HDR is just "huh, cool whatever".
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>>102511344
red devil and nitro are equal
same with hellhound and pulse
if you live in EU Sapphire has better warranty
but if you live in US Powercolor has better support
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Recently upgraded my amd ryzen 7 3700x to a 5700x3d using a x470 arous ultra gaming motherboard and updated the bios from f50 to f60 since that was the minimum I believe I needed to make it compatible. So far it seems functioning, was jsut wonderinn if I need/should either update my bios to a specfic version and/or change any bios settings to get the most out of my computer without over taxing it. I have a rtx 3090 GPU and 2 G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16GB DDR4-3600 ram sticks if that info helps.
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>>102511264
Anything thats less than 800 nits is fake HDR.
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>>102511162
>most people
You mean retards without DLSS?
Everyone else uses DLSS

>You have to reduce the resolution to an insane degree
Even with reduced input resolution, DLSS usually looks better than or equivalent to 'native.'

>only game
4070 Super is still faster
https://www.techspot.com/photos/article/2883-black-myth-wukong-benchmark/#HQ-Na-1440p-png
I find it funny that retards actually think the 7900 GRE is faster than the 4070 Super, even ignoring DLSS and RT

>>102511264
Actual HDR (e.g., OLED or LCDs with high zone count miniLED backlights) is worth it. Otherwise it's just a marketing buzzword
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>>102511440
It's a good idea to check out trustworthy benchmarks for solid info instead of just going with someone's possibly biased opinion. Take ray tracing, for example; some people think it's a big deal, while others aren't so convinced. The same goes for AMD drivers—opinions are all over the place. Plus, some folks might say NVIDIA is better because of its DLSS3 and frame generation, but they often forget that AMD has similar features too. And let's not ignore the CPU driver overhead with NVIDIA drivers, which AMD doesn't have to deal with on Windows or Linux.
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>>102511427
update the bios to the latest, enable xmp
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>>102511454
>which AMD doesn't have to deal with
Sorry, you were saying?
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>>102511416
thanks for the help, and yeah I live in the US so I'll go for the better support
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>>102511470
It is recommended to refer to credible benchmarks for precise information instead of depending on an individual's potentially biased perspective. For example, there are varying opinions regarding the importance of ray tracing; some individuals highlight its significance, while others downplay it. Similarly, perspectives on the quality of AMD drivers differ. Furthermore, some may claim that NVIDIA is superior due to its DLSS3 and frame generation features, neglecting to acknowledge that AMD provides similar functionalities. It is also important to consider that NVIDIA drivers may incur CPU overhead, a factor that AMD GPU drivers do not impose on either Windows or Linux. Always seek insights from individuals who can present objective facts rather than those who exhibit clear bias towards a specific brand. Avoid being swayed by those who attempt to present subjective opinions as objective truths.
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>>102511511
>a factor that AMD GPU drivers do not impose on either Windows or Linux
Oh shit you were saying?
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>>102511524
It's a good idea to check out reliable benchmarks for accurate info instead of relying on someone's possibly biased view. Take ray tracing, for instance; some folks think it's super important, while others aren't so convinced. The same goes for opinions on AMD drivers—there's a lot of variation. Plus, some people argue that NVIDIA is better because of its DLSS3 and frame generation, but they often overlook that AMD has similar features too. Don't forget that NVIDIA drivers can add CPU overhead, which AMD drivers don’t do on either Windows or Linux. Always look for insights from people who can share unbiased facts instead of those who clearly favor one brand over another. Steer clear of anyone trying to pass off their personal opinions as objective facts like this anon is doing.
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>>102511534
>which AMD drivers don’t do on either Windows or Linux
Your LLM is struggling to cope. Really shows just how ingrained the misinformation is. Retards on the internet en masse actually think that Nvidia has some kind of driver overhead problem
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>>102511587
It's smart to look at trustworthy benchmarks for solid information from various sources rather than relying on just one, like Hardware Unboxed or GameGPU as some examples you posted. Take ray tracing, for example; some people think it's a game-changer, while others are not so sure. The same goes for thoughts on AMD drivers—opinions really vary. Plus, some argue that NVIDIA has the edge with its DLSS3 and frame generation, but they often forget that AMD has similar capabilities too. Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA drivers can create CPU overhead, which AMD drivers don’t do on either Windows or Linux. Always seek out insights from those who can provide unbiased information instead of those who clearly lean towards one brand.
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>>102511511
>>102511534
>>102511629
There are easier ways to come out of the closet.
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>>102511629
>which AMD drivers don’t do on either Windows or Linux
Ask your LLM if it's ok
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>>102511440
Sample size N=1

90IQ moment
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>>102511651
t's essential to explore trustworthy benchmarks to gather accurate information from various sources rather than relying solely on one, like GameGPU. Take ray tracing as an example; opinions vary widely—some consider it crucial, while others are skeptical. The same applies to views on AMD drivers, which can differ significantly. Additionally, while many argue that NVIDIA holds the edge due to its DLSS3 and frame generation capabilities, they often neglect to acknowledge that AMD offers comparable features. It's also important to remember that NVIDIA drivers can introduce CPU overhead, leading to issues in scenarios like alt-tabbing, multitasking, or experiencing lag on certain websites that depend on CPU rather than GPU. Always seek insights from individuals who provide unbiased information rather than those who clearly have a preference for one brand. Avoid anyone who tries to present their personal opinions as objective truths.

>>102511646
You are gay.
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>>102508763
The side intake is probably just there for positive air pressure, and most of the heavy lifting is done by the bottom intake and hot air just naturally rising out of the top exhaust. Which I guess is fine. It's just that I'm very aware of what the inside of my computer looks like, and I don't need to display it.
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>>102511677
>one person uses dlss
AMDenial moment
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>>102511679
>t's essential to explore trustworthy benchmarks to gather accurate information from various sources rather than relying solely on one, like GameGPU. Take ray tracing as an example; opinions vary widely—some consider it crucial, while others are skeptical. The same applies to views on AMD drivers, which can differ significantly. Additionally, while many argue that NVIDIA holds the edge due to its DLSS3 and frame generation capabilities, they often neglect to acknowledge that AMD offers comparable features. It's also important to remember that NVIDIA drivers can introduce CPU overhead, leading to issues in scenarios like alt-tabbing, multitasking, or experiencing lag on certain websites that depend on CPU rather than GPU. Always seek insights from individuals who provide unbiased information rather than those who clearly have a preference for one brand. Avoid anyone who tries to present their personal opinions as objective truths.

AI
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>>102508763
some fans have inverted blades
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>>102511679
HNNNG I NEED SAUCE
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>>102511789
You're also AI, /pol/bot.
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>>102511810
Queen Ripple from Kirby 64, ripple_star_queen on dan/gelbooru
Source-searching for image posted has proven unsuccessful
using this opportunity to bump my own query >>102510948
Extra information: I've used CoPilot that was built into Edge (as I use lobotomized win10) to make a list list of different european retailers around in a frantic search for an x570 taichi
no x570 taichi found, but I will take a look around again once I solidify alternative boards
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>>102511693
Thing is even if that statistic is true, there is no context for it beyond "dlss: on". If it is a game that runs so badly on absolutely everything the only way get playable framerates is with dlss (or fsr or xess) then while yes, 98% of players are turning it on but it is bodge fix to a bigger issue. If we use a little bit of brainpower and reference the steam hardware survey (which given this is with a gaming context is a reasonable basis) that could mean people are playing said game at below - potentially massively so - 1080p.

Then again, /g/ in general seems to be celebrating regressions in visual clarity so ho hum we'll be playing games at resolutions a 8800GT would've obliterated.
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>>102511964
>regressions
DLSS is better than native on average >>102511440
It's always better to take whatever resolution you can run and turn it into a higher resolution with DLSS >>102507655

You are aware that even DLSS Ultra Performance outputs the NATIVE resolution, yes? It's only the input resolution that's lower. Output will always be native. The higher the input, the better the output, but less than native input is better than """native"" if that """native""" isn't DLAA
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Is it possible not to feed enough energy into the psu?
I'm using an extension cord and my pc will reboot under heavy load, tried connecting directly into the wall outlet and it seems do have stopped (I only tested for a few minutes so not completely sure yet)
And now I can feel how hard the psu is working from the vibrations on my table
It's a brand new MSI psu so I don't think it is the problem itself
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>>102511937
all of those boards are overkill for a 5800x3d so get whatever is the cheapest since i assume the only reason to get is for pcie.
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bro i sent my prebuilt pc back for warranty
and they proposed to change this motherboard
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-DS3H-AX-rev-1x#kf
to this
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/others/b760m-ayw-wifi/
for free

am i getting scammed for anything???

all i can see is that i no longer get wifi 6e and a usb c port
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>>102512098
and also 4 RAM slots turned into 2
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>>102512086
I *want* it to be overkill. This stuff is gonna stay with me for the oncoming 6-7 years, if not continuing to use AM4 for even longer.
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>>102512188
the board could die for any reason so it makes no sense to go overkill if you dont need the pcie lanes.
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>>102511964
>could mean people are playing said game at below - potentially massively so - 1080p
Also I wanted to address this point: modern games look massively better than anything we've had previously, even in the crossgen PS5/XSX period. Trading a little bit of clarity for the substantially increased visuals is a reasonable trade off. On top of that, you can't expect a graphics card to last forever, and eventually you've got to upgrade to play the latest games at the settings and image quality you desire, if you so desire.
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>>102512081
bros pls respond
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>>102512155
I'd consider that an upgrade since 2 slots can run faster memory speeds than 4
People pay $700 for that privilege on z790 boards
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>>102512081
As a general rule, I would never use an extension cable for anything that potentially pulls 400+W. There's a reason it's considered dangerous to run space heaters with an extension cable and that reason applies to high power PCs too.
You don't know the quality of the cable nor the wire gauge. Could be power cutting out like you're experiencing, could be a sparks & fire starter.
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it's a downgrade because you only get one less fan connector (from 3 chassis fans to 2).
but if you need wifi, I don't see where your original mobo has a antenna, so it's possible you get a free antenna with the other mobo.
doesn't really matter however, if you are getting 32gb you probably aren't going to get more ram, or if you buy one 16gb stick, that's fine since ddr5 is dual channel per stick. I think the VRM without the heatsink at the top of the CPU is probably separate from the main power (like ram + pch, *shrugs* maybe not I don't know about VRMs much), and if you are using a 12400f, the VRM beefyness should not matter.
Honestly only the fan connector and maybe the ram if you don't have 32gb or have one 16gb stick would make me refuse the change.
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>>102512098
meant for:
>>102512521



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