>>102512461
useless ahh OP

Reminder that benchmarks at 1080p are more relevant than ever if you intend to use upscaling

>>102512477
Unironically kill yourself for using that disgusting zoomerspeak, cunt.

What micro ATX AM5 boards DONT suck? It's such a pain in the ass shopping for a motherboard for such a new platform

>>102512502
skibidi rizzlet your OP has zero aura

>>102512494
upscaling is for poorfags unable to run their programs at full resolution

>>102512517
FSR maybe
DLSS has been better than native image quality for 2 years now

4070ti super price drop anytime soon?

or will I have to pay the $850 shekels

>>102512543
Ask yourself, is there any good reason why it would drop in price at all?

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Is massgrave.dev safe for activating windows or do I need to buy a cheap second hand license?

>>102512557
I already showed you that site there is no reason to buy windows nobody buys windows

>>102512557
It's a conspiracy theory to steal your data. Which is why literally every anon on /g/ laughs at you if you buy a Windows license and directs you to /fwt/ + massgrave.dev

>>102512557
HWID activation.
It's fine.
Head over to >>fwt

>>102512543
why would the prices drop especially if they aren't used

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>>102512557
Yes

>>102512543
No

>>102512477
Maybe

>>102512494
Objectively True

>>102512555

None. They can get away with it.

I'm looking at AMD instead (7900gre) and the nvidia tax would be $300 more. But it seems it isn't much of a choice.

>>102512538
>upscaled has better than native image quality
lol

>>102512543
>nothing is dropping in price
>nothing is being announced or leaked
>nothing is being released
>nothing is improving
we're living in total technology stagnation

I'm so conflicted. I need a new PC since my system is completely dead for months and I finally have a decent budget to purchase new parts. But new components are just around the corner. Should I just be patient?

>>102512508
>Asrock
Pro RS is good, HDV is alright
PG Lightning is acceptable-ish if there's nothing better available
>Asus
TUF Plus is good
>Gigabyte
DS3H is okay-ish on the entry level, the Aorus boards are good
>Msi
Gaming Plus and Pro-A are pretty decent, Mortar is good

mainly speaking from a VRM standpoint, obviously the more entry level-targeted boards have rather spartan I/O and features depending on what your needs are

>>102512601
>playing at native
playing yourself
DLDSR+DLSS quality is The Way It's Meant To Be Played.
>TAA
Couldn't be me
DLAA is the bare minimum

>>102512622
was me when i wanted to buy a pc
just buy now
the next best thing is always right around the corner. waiting is a trap.

>>102512543
you can get a 7900xtx for that like i did

>>102512622
Just wait a month for arrowlake
It's a huge upgrade from Intel's current gen so well worth waiting for imo

>>102512645
I would normally agree, but this is around the time we should be expecting a 5090/5080 announcement as shown by the past two reveal and release dates. Intel cpus are coming out next month as well. The time for buying was when the 4080 super was released, the time for waiting is now.

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>>102512494
True, as you can use 1080p as a proxy for 1440p DLSS Quality or 4K DLSS Performance. 1440p can be used as a proxy for 4K DLSS Quality

>>102512543
No but if you can increase your budget, you might be able to get 4090 perf for a couple of hundred more as the 5080 in a couple of months

>>102512659
Not worth, 4070 Ti Super is better

>The C drive is just the primary hard drive. If you are building a new modern PC it would most likely be the SSD you put in your motherboard's M2 slot.
This is correct right? Initially I planned on using my 2 tb drive from my old pc to transfer to my new pc that I’m building and making it my main drive/c drive. But I heard that it’s better to have windows installed on a drive that’s mostly empty and has no important files, so I’m thinking of buying a new hard drive to be my c drive that I will install windows on.
What’s a good size for this? Would 256 gb be enough? I’ll just have all my games and files be located on my 2 tb drive.

>>102512707
>>It's a huge upgrade from Intel's current gen
where is the evidence

>>102512715
And we learned from the 40s series that the 4090 and 4080 is shit in terms of price:performance. It's going to be the same for the 50 series cards. 5090 and 5080 is going to be shit in perms of price:perf, the 5070 and 5060 might be okay. then you wait another year for the 5070 ti super for the best bang for the buck card. which is like 2 years of waiting
Just buy shit now

>>102512741
If you're a casual PC user then it doesn't matter if you have everything in one drive.
I'm not a casual PC user so I have everything separate.

>>102512724
>outlaws
isn't that due to it being your usual unoptimized ubislop crap?

>>102512771
I'm not shopping for a 4070 super or 4070 ti super.

>>102512724
>Not worth, 4070 Ti Super is better
>ti super
lol
o
l

>>102512810
If you're dead set on waiting, then why ask? Go wait for the 5090 then.
And when they announce a better card in 6 months you're going to want ti wait. And keep waiting since they're just going to keep doing this shit.

bro i sent my prebuilt pc back for warranty
and they proposed to change this motherboard
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-DS3H-AX-rev-1x#kf
to this
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/others/b760m-ayw-wifi/
for free

am i getting scammed for anything???

all i can see is that i no longer get wifi 6e and a usb c port

>>102512521
the pc did came with an antenna for wifi 6e
the current spec is i512400f, (8+8)G DDR5 foryourinformation

>>102512457
why is the difference?
they're both ddr5 tho

>>102512788
Don’t really know what counts as a non-casual pc user. But after doing more research it seems like the consensus is that it’s safer and more convenient for potential future situations if windows is installed on an empty new drive, so guess I’ll buy one

>>102512827
>6 months
You mean two years? I'm not the guy asking if I should wait, but why are you acting like nvidia releases are every few months? 4000 series launched in 2022, sis.

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>>102512461
This is a recap of >>102510948
Want a high-end-ish mobo for my 5800X3D, and if danish store can't gacha pull the X570 Taichi Razer I ordered, I'll have to search for other mobos of equal qualities, currently have these on lookout:
(asus) ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
MSI MEG X570 Godlike
Other than finding on the nearby used markets or getting a lucky find for an equal on some other European store that delivers to Norway, been thinking of buying used off China
Current build reproduction: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cM32gB
Been told that what I'm looking for is overkill, but... Nice things are nice, and I intend to run AM4 for a good decade more.
It's 04:30 AM, so I'll check back in the morning. Been using versus.com to compare, but if there's a better mobo comparison site out there, I'd like to know about it.

Which of AMD and Nvidia are better for DX9 stuff and older?

do you guys have any recommendations for monitoring software?
Been a while since I checked in, just been using HWiNFO but I wouldn't mind something prettier to throw on my 2nd display.

>>102512902
Dark Hero has boot issues requiring a full power cycle to clear like the rev1.0 x570 aorus master so I'd suggest you avoid that board
Honestly your best move would be to scalp the 5800x3d while its still in high demand and get a cheaper b650 board and a zen4 x3d cpu since those have 20% better performance

would I have driver issues with AyyyMD if playing janky old shit from the early 2000s?

>>102512461
>Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)

>Phantom Spirit
>Peerless Assassin
>Royal Knight

What's the difference

>>102512958
if you mean DX9/DX8, its all broken on newer architectures. Doesn't matter if its AMD or even Nvidia. Your fix is DXVK as it now supports those APIs.

>>102512963
Phantom Spirit is the upgraded version of the peerless assassin. OP hasnt updated it because he's primarily here to shill nvidia, dlss and fg
Not sure what Royal Knight is

>>102512963
Phantom Spirit > Peerless Assassin
Haven't seen a review for Royal Knight yet but it looks like it's made specifically for tall RAM since it's swept back and the front fan is thinner
I'd guess it's worse at cooling than the other two

>>102512950
>I intend to run AM4 for a good decade more.
I'm not moving to zen4. If anything, I intend to hoard AM4 equipment as time goes on. Pluton rubs me the wrong way and I am NOT taking ANY logic presented to me as a way to dispel the gut feeling.

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>>102512988
>>102512993
Royal Knight

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Did I install my RAM right? I'm so confused on the A1
B1

>>102513029
Read your manual. It will tell you which slots are recommended for single, dual, and quad sticks

Why does my gpu don't report the fans rpm? I know it spins because I can hear it when it gets hot

>>102513014
Royal series should be an all-around improvement. Can't wait for the Royal Preytor Ultra as according the Law of Thermalright, the dumber the cooler name the better it becomes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjTGaamdnIA

Burger friends, what retailer is best to buy SSDs from? I just want to get one asap and don’t really want to wait for shipping online.

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Blown up cap on my rx580
I have my tower on the desk with an opened case, so I literally saw the spark coming out of it.
Do you think I can use the GPU for longer?
I could desolder the cap, but I don't know how or what the replacement cap is

>>102513029
Read the manual. But generally you want A2 and B2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxGqGCtPxn4&t=415s

>>102513037
the curse of buying a cheapo gpu

>>102513029
offset your rams one slot to the right

>>102513029
It says the second and fourth slot should be used first right there

>>102513063
Amazon Prime will deliver it in 1-2 days.
Otherwise you gotta wait like the rest of UPS/Fedex/USPS.

>>102513074
Oh it's normal then? I shouldn't worry about it?

>>102513107
as long as gpu isnt hitting tjmax temp on hotspot its fine.

>>102513105
I meant real life retail stores, like Best Buy, staples, Office Depot, etc.
unless SSDs are much cheaper online, but if the price difference isn’t much then I’d prefer to buy one in real life.

>>102513122
Microcenter, Walmart, I think even Gamestop sells SSDs now for consoles.

>>102513122
Sure, just tell me your full address, phone number and name. That way I know where you live so I can easily search up stores near you and compare it to online stores.
Or you could just do it yourself, retard.

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>>102512521
And btw the fan slot is still 3 i think

>>102512461
where the fuck is the 5080? I need to upgrade this 3080 10gb [spoiler]finally running into vram problems at 4k[/spoiler]

>>102512645
>the next best thing is always right around the corner
no its not. the next best thing is roughly every 2 years and buying right at the end of a generation is retarded.

>>102512943
answering myself: Found this.
https://github.com/LibreHardwareMonitor/LibreHardwareMonitor

My mini pc with 7735 680m (512 vram allocated) for some reason performs better than my 7940 780m (8gb allocated) when it comes to games when i was testing them? i know it's not meant for gaming but also the performance and speed seem to be better with the former as well. It seems more snappier and smoother.

>>102512943
hwinfo64 is still the best and nasa approved

>>102512741
There's no point buying lower than 1TB SSDs anymore as Windows will spend its whole life rewriting that shit over and over again for no reason. Just buy a 1TB for Windows garbage and keep all your storage on another one 2TB or 4TB

>>102512921
NVIDIA, AMD straight up doesn't work with a lot of dx9 stuff

>>102512724
what are these epic funny webms meant to prove?

>>102513245
>he posted the lie again

>>102513377
it's not a lie I'm speaking from experience

>>102513384
no you aren't.

>>102513226
Does your mini PC use LPDDR5 at a higher speed than your 7940 which might be using SODIMM DDR5 at slower speeds?
It's why I never understood people crying about soldered LPDDR5 when you give up speed and performance if you wanted swappable SODIMM

>>102512502
You can say nigger here. This is a safe place.

>>102513065
capacitors are jewish scams

>>102513065
im sure there are schematics for you to look at to find out what the replacement cap is

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>>102513065
>The Radeon RX 580 is a performance-segment graphics card by AMD, launched on April 18th, 2017.

I got two additional sticks of 8gb not realizing my AssRock mobo only supports two at 3200mhz, not four sticks. so now I'm running all four at 3000. can I do anything now or get rid of all four and buy 2x 16gb?

>>102513403
he's literally right. learn what microarchitectures are. anything older than dx11 is pretty much not supported anymore. dx9 and dx8 is 32 bit era shit, we're in 64 bit. get with the times.

>>102513467
but dx8 and dx9 games are better

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>>102513476
thats fine but you're still better off with vulkan

What do you guys do with your old PC? I just upgraded and my old computer is
>3060ti
>R7 3700x
>64GB DDR4
I think I might want to keep the 3060ti "in case" and sell all the parts including the AIO, fans and MB individually. Except the m.2s I'm paranoid about data recovery. They're Samsung 970's and my new one is a 990Pro but I can still use one of them
BTW does it make sense to load Windows onto the 1TB 970 and just use the 4TB 990 Pro for storage? Or should the OS be on the newer m.2

>>102513531
Either sell it now or put it to use in some home server.

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>>102512794
>isn't that due
>that
What is the 'that' of which you write?

>>102512988
Rude
I'm primarily here as the Sheriff of /pcbg/ and the Prophet of /pcbg/, an all around anti-shill

>>102513364
Radeon != Geforce as much as the Radeonfriends would love to have you believe

>>102513514
>dx11
With Geforce you don't need DXVK, as its driver is already multithreaded. In fact DXVK can lower framerates, as you're running through a translation layer.

>>102513579
>all around anti-shill
HAHAHAHA

>>102513434
>>102513439
Yeah my plan is to desolder it and see if it works
I'll look around for the schematic

>>102513409
Of course nigger, I just reserve it for those who truly deserve to be niggerfied.

My 5600x shit itself, been meaning to buy a new pc for work, should I wait for the 5000 gpus to come out?

>>102513752
>should I wait
If you can and you have the budget, yes. The 5080 will probably be out in late January

>>102513771
I want 5090 >:)

>>102513804
Also likely January

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>>102513812
What about instead of coming out in January it comes out in Manuary and it's covered in my thermal paste?

>>102513804
I don't know why, but I have a strong feeling it's going to get scalped to death. Even at a $2000 price point...

>>102513531
attached it to tv

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the motherboard tray is finally removable

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>>102513579
It's a good idea to stick to reliable benchmarks for accurate info rather than relying on possibly biased personal views. Take ray tracing, for instance; some folks rave about its significance, while others downplay it. The same goes for opinions on AMD drivers, which can vary widely. Plus, some people might argue that NVIDIA is superior because of its DLSS3 and frame generation, overlooking the fact that AMD has similar features too. Just ignore those who are overly pro-NVIDIA and resort to personal attacks instead.

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>>102513865
I already run an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV for cozy couch gaming.

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>>102512461
yall fuck with intel gpus?

fucking i'm buying the 7900xtx

>>102514035
Post receipt so I can laugh

>>102514000
they basically only work for dx12/vulkan. everything else is like hitting a wall.

I'm buying the 8800xt
Nvidia GPUs just lack something fundamental... soul? Not sure but it's tasteless garbage

>>102514043
bitch :(

Can you pair an i3 with fast ddr5 ram? Their website says it supports up to 4800mhz

Probably going to build a new pc in the near future. How is this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LTwG

Plan on playing 1440p games and doing some video rendering. I have storage, monitors, and kb+m already so they’re not in the list.

>>102514127
What MB? https://pcpartpicker.com/ and plug those three in to see compatibility

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>>102514130

>>102514151
What the fuck?
>link is missing a P
Oh kek
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LTwGP

4TB T700 bueno? Si?

>>102514265
si, fly.

>>102514139
H610 ddr5, will it run at max speed?

>>102514000
theyre so hit and miss, i ran a 16gb A770 for a while, and it would work great for some stuff, and complete ass for other games, and it wasnt even directX related
GTA V, 4k max settings, easy 60-70fps, no problems
with one exception, if MSAA was on it shit the bed, cut framerate in half if not more, and a lot of games shared this issue
CS2 it ran stable but it was just on par with like an rtx 3050, it just wasnt performing as well as it could
and then oddball stuff, sometimes it would hold its own against a 3070? insurgency sandstorm and modded skyrim SE of all things, it would perform way over its intended market tier
if it did that in all games, perform like a 3070 that is, it would be a god tier card, but it would do that right alongside performing like a 3050 in other titles

also the LE cooler is hot as fuck, its the only gpu ive owned since fermi 2.0 that would hit over 95c with fans pointed at it
obviously thats more the fault of the cooler design but its also a power hungry card and had a low power floor, it would idle at 60w and 60c

>>102514315
Plug the models into the website, "max speed" depends on a bunch of things.

>>102514151
>>102514165
interesting to look at a build from 10+ years ago, im guessing at newest this was an upgrade for a gtx 770 in 2013
though its not out of the question for it to be all new, it would be kinda like buying 12th gen intel now

>>102514336
>modded skyrim
have you tried using the sculpt in racemenu? it's a feature that only nvidia cards run well

Is it worth getting a 4080 over a 4070ti super?

>>102514000
i would like one to put in a server for encoding/transcoding/ai but its not worth the money

>>102514389
you can just change around the links and find neat old lists like that
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/1YTmC
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QTxI
Some haswell builds, seeing an OG hyper 212 evo in there knowing those fucks at cooler master still sell that thing today for twice its original price is funny
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/5SBfY
this guy didnt get the idea of the 3258 being an overclockable pentium, they wouldve needed a z board or swapped to the g3260
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9NAlw
>4670S on a drp3
>bequiet case
someone was upset with a loud PC and wanted the quietest and coolest PC they could manage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WokD
>single 8gb stick of ram

>>102514429
If you plan to keep the card for 3-4+ years then yes, if you will sell in 2 years and upgrade again later, no.

I'm still using a gtx 1080 and im proud of it

it kinda sucks that the 800$ 4070ti super is somehow a good option in todays market
its the gap between the mid tier and high end in naming placement, but provides the best "value" in terms of its feature set and performance anyway because the lower tier cards are expensive and underwhelming and the higher end cards are extremely expensive and not that much better

like, damn
i remember buying my GTX 590 back in the day for $750 and thinking i was balling out with the top of the top end instead of getting a 560ti like everyone else for 240 buckaroos
i remember the discussions
>if youre still running a 4:3 monitor ie 1280x1024 or something, you probably only need the 1gb one which is cheaper
>yeah, unless youre playing new vegas or GTA IV or something in 1080 the 2gb one isnt worth it

>>102514604
Barely better than the $600 4070 Super
But that's as low as you want to go unless you're punting with a 4060

What the fuck is going on with CPU prices recently?

>>102514622
nothing, the 7800X3D sold out because everyone who was waiting for Zen5 went and got that instead.

>>102514622
What happened to CPU prices?

>>102514565
That was the last card I had before now owning a 3060. I couldn't quite get a 1080 ti, but the 1080 was still a beast. I don't have it anymore because I moved and couldn't bring it with me, gave my old PC to my dad, but that thing was great to have.

I went from a Quadro DX 4000 to a GTX 760 (massive upgrade) to a GTX 1080 to an RTX 3060. My next GPU will be an RTX 5080.

>>102514631
That must be it, then. I just noticed that the 7800x3d skyrocketed but I haven't been keeping up with the news.

>>102514165
Bump

Think we’ll get another generation out of AM5 or will 9th gen probably be it?
I have a 9600x and long term a few years down the line I figure I would be able to get a used 9900x/9950x if I ever need more cores, but the single thread performance is barely any different.
Maybe if there’s a 10600x it would be worthwhile

>>102514678
AMD said 2027.
Zen5X3D, Zen6 and Zen6X3D will be on AM5.

>>102513467
>>102513476
>>102513514
>>102512921
What makes DX11 and DX12 so great compared to DX9?

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waitfagbros,
what are you currently sitting on?

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>>102514000
Unless intel buries it, I am expecting at least a competitor to AMD in two generations.

>>102514692
DX11 and 12 are much better with multithreading, which wasnt as big of a deal like 5-10 years ago but is much more important now as modern games are better at using multiple cores, paired with DX11/12 the resource usage of the games is much more efficient
dx9 is technology from 2002 at its core, it was designed with low vram and single core processors in mind

>>102514743
sitting on AM4
waiting for AM6

>>102514743
im waiting for a zen5 am1 soc option so i can finally upgrade from my athlon 5350 like amd said i would be able to
its going to happen soon
right amd?

>>102514743
>10700k
>2070 super
>16gb ram
I can't take it anymore. 1080p is killing me, but even something like used 3080 ti is ~$500 minimum. Must be nice being a richfag.

>>102514743
>R5 5600
>RTX 3070
Waitfagging for Core Ultra 7 265K & RTX 5080

>>102514631
>zen 5 turns out to be shit
>"why the fuck did we wait?"

>>102512659
AMD is a lost cause. We need China to come to the rescue.

>>102514743
>sitting on
1440p 144 Hz IPS
>waiting on
A Pulsar equivalent to come to 4K 240 Hz OLED

>>102514882
>China
don't they just copy whatever U.S. chipmakers do but make it cheaper and shittier? I've never seen an authentic innovative design come out of that country that wasn't the result of massive corporate espionage.

Bros, I recently upgraded to a R5 5600 and an RX 7600.

Temps are an issue. I have 2 intakes, and 2 exhausts, and the CPU is running on a Wraith Spire (came with my original R5 1500x)

CPU temps while gaming are like 85-87 C, which isn't high as such, but the whole case seems to heat up, which leads me to think it's an airflow problem than a cooling one.

Should I just put in better/more fans or go and buy a CPU cooler? I'm a poor fag so the former is more enticing to me.

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>>102512461
>https://x.com/Olrak29_/status/1838085240402915360
>LGA185"1" gen
Oh nonono!

>>102514968
>but make it cheaper
that's all we need
i don't care about anything else yes sure they're apes but they can be our apes

>>102515032
the AMD/intel stock coolers are notoriously bad. You can get a better cpu cooler + fans for about the same price as just adding more fans which won't really do much in terms of temps anyway, considering you already have 4 fans installed. I'm a sff-fag with only 2 exhaust fans and my cpu never goes above 65°C.
But it could also be that your case has inherently shitty airflow, can you post an image of it?

>>102515032
what case? which fans?

>>102515080
wraith spire isn't bad, its the bigger version of the wraith stealth which is bad

>>102515032
undervolt it and order a new hsf

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sRw53JxpEcg

how much would a diamond cooler cost?

>>102515032
>running on a Wraith Spire
Stock cooler sucks.

>>102515073
It's going to be cheaper because they'll be cutting corners and changing up clever design to make it cheaper to manufacture, which would in turn mean a loss of integrity to whatever you're buying. Do you really want to spend like $100 less on a shittier chip that's going to not function properly and break down after like 6 months?
And who are you going to hold accountable for when it does? Xiao ding dong, factory worker №5? or Ming xing liao, executive of chang hung ling holding company?

>>102515080
>>102515080
>Wraith Spire (came with my original R5 1500x)
First gen spires had copper vapour chamber core, one of the best stock coolers ever
Second gen had solid copper slug and worse fan
Current spires are all-aluminum trash

any half-decent coolers that won't occlude the RAM slots on an ATX AM5 mobo?

>>102515113
no name sellers will sell you shit for quick pennies but chinks care about face and reputation so brand products won't be shit on purpose. chink brands make actually great stuff.

>>102515133
i have a phantom spirit on my x670e-f and have no problems with g.skill flare ram clearance but the fan is just resting on top one or two cm above where it should be

>>102514882
I know one of the former NVIDIA employee chink developed one of their chink GPU, but apparently it's as buggy as early Intel Arc.
They NGMI.

>>102515142
>chink brands make actually great stuff.
are there even any chink brands that are significantly cheaper than western counterparts that aren't dogshit? Not being sarcastic, I genuinely don't know any. Even the gpu aftermarket manufacturers, which all essentially just put a cooler on a chip, are all way shittier for a price that isn't remotely competitive.

>>102512643
I'm not really familiar with this, but I'd like to try it. I've just watched some videos and I get what it is, but what I'm confused about is the performance side of things. I have a 3080 and 1440p monitor, so I'm supposed to use DLDSR to increase the resolution to like 5k, then DLSS on quality is supposed to work to keep my fps somewhere reasonable?
Is the end result a better looking image AND better performance than running native, or better looking same performance?

What's the best brand for external hard drives? I need it external for reasons. Planning to get something between 8-14TB

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>good scores, game sucks

>>102515167
a couple gpu makers are chinese (like sapphire), the cheapest ones, they just put a cooler on a nvidia or amd chip but there's also car makers now owned by american oligarchs embarrassingly though but also drone makers making cheap high quality shit

What self-destruct device do you nvidia will implement in the 5090?
Another melty connector?
Death clock VRM?
Exploding VRAM?

>>102515218
>unconfirmed source

>>102512643
>DLDSR+DLSS quality
Doesn't that cancel each other out, or am I being retarded? How do you render an image at higher-than-your-monitors-resolution, but at the same time render it at a lower resolution to upscale it?

>>102515218
Wow that anime girl is cute, I choose to trust this statement.

>>102515222
that's different though, they're essentially contractors for american companies that make their shit for them based on precise instructions. I was talking about a standalone chinese company making a product that they either made themselves, or stole the design of, and greatly improved on it at a much cheaper price.

>>102515237
I think just electric cars as of now probably, the west has already banned them though with tariffs and sanctions because they'e too good and too cheap. again their best car companies are owned by american oligarchs so they're really american companies and are supposed to build factories in the US and build there only then they're allowed to sell in the west.

>>102515231
More letters is more better. Try to keep up.

>>102515227
>>102515234

Will you trust it once pajeettech or videocardzzzz makes a post about that same exact leak?
Anyway, already leaked benchmarks show it being plenty good with those. Pair that with it having less cache than 5800x3d(now two and a half years old). Good at bench bad at game is what you should expect.

>>102515237
I would argue something that fits that bill would be portable media players, and audio equipment. That’s a whole other general on here, but chi-fi genuinely is at times better than or at least equal to the high end traditionally American or European brands.
Companies like Hifiman and Fiio hold up against the likes of Audeze and Astell & Kern very well. And at times offer better products for less money in terms of capability and quality.

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>>102515180
Not him. 5120x2880 would be plain DSR, doesn't need DLDSR. DLDSR is for non integer ratio downscaling. 1920p and 2160p are examples of DLDSR resolutions if you're starting from 1440p. DLDSR incurs a couple of FPS cost, whereas I don't think DSR does, or at least it's less.

>then DLSS on quality
There's no way you're running 2880p with DLSS Quality in anything remotely demanding. That's substantially more pixels than 4K, which is 2160p. You'd probably start with DLSS Performance if you're targeting 2880p, which will have an input of quarter resolution, so 1440p input. Of course the input reconstructed to a higher resolution will always be better than the input resolution itself.

When I've used DLDSR, it's mostly been either 1920p or 2160p. Games don't have seem to have problems at those resolutions, e.g., with the UI. Often I'll use 4K as the target res. The image quality of 4K DLSS Performance > 1440p DLSS Quality at similar performance most of the time. With a 3080 if you're playing slightly older games, you can hit 4K DLAA, Quality, or Balanced pretty often if you're looking under 100 FPS. For newer games, even Performance will be unlikely unless you're also optimizing settings

>>102515266
Chinese car companies are basically state owned with massive subsidies. They can sell the cars under cost if they want to, just to put American car companies like Tesla out of business. There's no way a Tesla or any other car company from a capitalist nation could compete

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>>102515167
Topping recently obliterated the entire mid-low tier audio interface market on their first attempt.

>>102515088
>>102515080

It's a Corsair 110R
Corsair page:
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011183-ww/110r-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-case-cc-9011183-ww

Fans are Intake: 2x Arctic P12
Exhaust: 1x Arctic P12, 1x whatever shitty fan the case came with.

I don't really mind the CPU touching 90, so not really inclined to change the cooler, but I don't want the case to feel like a space heater.

>>102515282
Again this gets into iemg territory, but something like moondrop starfields a couple years ago weren’t some flashy fashion item picked up by techtubers. They were discovered by audio hobbyists, and pushed into the mainstream in the audio community because as a product they were genuinely that good.
They came out as cheap, really good sounding iems that competed against iems that cost hundreds of dollars more at the time.

It’s like if one day one of the Chinese GPU manufacturers dropped a card that performed like a 4070, but cost $250.
What that would do is inspire the previously dominant companies to drop prices or increase features, and open the floodgates for other Chinese gpu manufacturers to cut out their slice of a now disjointed market.
That’s what cheap chi-fi did over the last few years. Now there’s a bunch of them, a lot of which are mainstream for all markets, and started getting companies like Sony, Bose, AKG, sennheiser, beyerdyanmic, etc to start looking at how they can innovate with their products to compete in that market. Prices went down, new items came out that were more appealing and competed with the chi-fi. It’s why sennheiser did all those massdrop collaborations, cheaper products tailored towards the same market that the chi-fi brands went after.

That’s what china did well in tech recently. I don’t write them off entirely for being able to do the same for other markets. It’s more a matter of has a product been discovered, mass produced and marketed, more than has it been made yet.

Is the integrated USB controller on AM5 located on the motherboard or inside the CPU? I have determined that I have a faulty USB controller, but I'm not sure if I need to replace the motherboard or CPU

>>102515282
fuck I forgot about all the audio stuff. I unironically have a Chink headphone amp sitting on my desk right now and it's actually one of the most high quality things I own. Good point anon.
Makes you think though, lossless audio setups require quite a bit of engineering work to make it good and affordable, why don't they do more like this?
>>102515266
> the west has already banned them though with tariffs and sanctions because they'e too good and too cheap
Guess I was wrong. I looked it up, and apparently most of their market works like that. Surveillance, ID software etc. that would be frowned upon in the west is apparently thriving over there.

>>102515337
Yeah that thing is an oven, switch to three intake and one exhaust

>>102515332
see >>102515356
I literally have a L50 sitting in front of me, lol.

>>102515337
air is going to have a hard time moving through those tiny gills on the side. Even a cheapo boomerbox with ventilated front covers/aluminium mesh will have significantly better air flow. But if the case itself is made of aluminium then it's par for the course if it heats up, because that's how it dissipates heat.

>>102515353
They’re on both, the cpu and the motherboard will have separate usb controllers. The motherboard one will work through the chipset.
Not 100% sure how you’d test which is which? You might be able to figure it out by disabling chipset features entirely, no pcie slots after 1, no sata, no audio, and in turn no USB, leaving the only functional ports as the ones connected to the cpu.
And if none of your usb ports work then, it’s the cpu ones that are done for.

Though a cheaper solution if you need usb ports back and something’s wrong with your current ones is just to get a pcie usb card with its own usb controller.

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>>102514068
AMD feels like home. Nvidia reminds me of the 9-5 rat race.

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>>102515394
Sounds like a nightmare to diagnose.

Basically, I noticed my front USB ports randomly went out today, and shortly after I started getting repeated BSODs with stop code 0x0000009f. I had someone look at the dumps and they said picrel.

I've unplugged my front panel IO for now. Not sure if that will fix anything, but I don't really know where to go from here.

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>>102514165
>>102514130

>>102515425
If it was distinctly just the front panel I would be looking at the connectors physically first, especially if it’s the type C
USB 3.0 headers are relatively fragile with a fucking annoying stiff cable plugging into them, one damaged pin would cause issues. And the type C header is a similar story, one cracked solder joint on its seating and it could have similar issues.

>>102515425
Is there a baby cockroach shorting out your front usb ports or what

>>102515461
I keep my shit pretty clean. I did plug a device in yesterday that wasn't working properly though, so maybe that fucked something up?

>>102515459
I unplugged both the USB-C and 3.0 front panel connectors. It was the 3.0 ones that were dropping out for sure, but I haven't tested the C one

>>102515394
If I disabled the controller on the motherboard and bought a PCI-E card with a dedicated controller, would I be able to use the USB ports on the back of my motherboard?

>had to use my crappy laptop for a couple of days while waiting for replacement CPU
>tfw finally back to 1440p @ 32 inches
dayum

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>>102515507
No, they’re not smart or anything. If you disabled the chipset usb controller, any ports it controls will stop working entirely. And adding a usb controller won’t change that, a usb controller card only runs the ports it has onboard.
There are ones that have front panel usb 3.0 and type C though, if you just want your front panel to work normally.
This is cheaper than replacing a motherboard

>>102515530
Okay that makes sense. Is it pretty straightforward to disable the onboard USB controller? Not sure if that's a BIOS thing or if I'd need to go into device manager to do that

>>102515543
Should be a bios setting to enable or disable certain chipset features and USB, that will depend on the motherboard though.
My old evga z590 dark had options to do all that stuff in the name of power saving because of the type of board it is, but not every board will have that ability.

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>>102515277
>>Will you trust it once pajeettech or videocardzzzz makes a post about that same exact leak?
No because those sites regurgitate anything they find, true or false.
Lion Cove has an additional level of cache that may or may not help with gaming (but probably not). Regardless, I won't believe a thing until I see actual benchmarks; pre-release or launch reviews.
Random comments from random forum posters are worthless.

>>102515569
Gotcha, thanks for your help :)

>>102515080
>tfw using a gen 1 Wraith cooler circa 2012 that came with an FX 8150 to cool my R7 5700x3d
those first ones are actually pretty damn competent, I never hear it spin up.

>>102515492
It's possible your front ports got damaged
Try contacting your case manufacturer for a new one if it's still covered by warranty

>>102515617
>my R7 5700x3d
The 5700X3D draws like nothing, mine does cinebench at ~80W after a -30 curve.

>>102515579
Arrowlake will also get disaggregated into chiplets which will unavoidably increase memory latency

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>Arrow Lake Refresh is pre-cancelled
>next gen only in 2026/7
looks like intel will leapfrog 18A too

>>102515639
true, but the only other compatible cooler I have is a wraith stealth, which is total shit so I consider it a win.

>>102515702
Aren't all the compute cores on the same chiplet? It's the iGPU and one other part that I forgot that's on other chiplets.

>>102515720
Compute is on its own island separate from I/O which is what talks to pcie and ram

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>>102515720
>>102515724
Yeah, I found this
Hoping we get official reviews a week before launch assuming it's announced Oct 10 and the retail launch is the 24th.

selling my 6800xt to a friend for cheap because his GPU died, what card should I get as a replacement?
display is 1440p 144hz

>>102515285
Very good, thank you.

>>102515741
4070 Ti S

>>102515702
chiplets have nothing to do with memory latency
AMD has high memory latency because their interconnect sucks (this applies on their monolithic laptop chips/APUs too)

>>102515741
If you want similar-ish performance: 4070(S) or 7800XT
If you want a small upgrade: 7900GRE or 4070TiS
If you want a noticeable upgrade: 4080(S) or 7900XTX

>>102512643
>The Way It's Meant To Be Played
i knew you were trollan

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/confirmed-ray-tracing-and-dlss-games
i see that more games are having DLSS option now, but not that many. Is it difficult to implement DLSS in their games or something? i thought it would be very popular even for indie/AA games considering most RTX 40 owners (of all range) would use DLSS for their games

>>102515815
>>102515765
aight thanks
guess I'll go with the 4070s then, the 6800xt was already overkill for me and the only game I want to play is stalker 2 which I'm sure it'll be a shitty jankfest where some sort of upscaling will be mandatory

>>102512643
sgssaa is the one true aa

>>102516147
by that logic, fsr is even harder to implement since its in even less games

SATA or NVMe for the OS and programs?

>>102516521
if the sata one has dram you won't notice a difference aside from benchmarks

>>102512461
when the 50000 nvidia released ?

>>102516521
Considering how cheap NVME drives are these days, you might as well go for it.

>>102514743
GTX 1070, i7-7700k, 1080p@144hz

if this setup can't run it then 99% chance it's shit

>>102516827
>>102516526
What gen4 SSDs are GOAT?

I'm waiting for the new gpus to drop but other then that I've got planned

>7800x3d
>b650 motherboard
>32 GB ddr5 6000 cl30

I just wanna play 1440p native. Hope amd delivers, otherwise I'm gonna get a 5080 I guess. Thoughts on these parts?

>>102516917
That is the gaming meta platform

>>102516934
Okay thanks

>>102512461
>GAMING MONITORS
is it just marketing like it is with the chairs? Wouldn't a normal one with your choosen resolution and fast response time be enough?

>>102514743
Sitting on a shitty laptop and waiting for the new generation of GPUs which will hopefully cause some price drop for the current stuff.

>>102517109
60hz = 60fps

I haven't build a private PC in years (have been using company machines that I always have issues with), I know how everyting works (or at least used to work) and have building experience, but I'm painfully out of touch with what's happening right now.
I'm not a gamer, but I need a powerful machine for video editing, rendering, and 3D stuff. First things first, would you guys recommend AMD or Intel? I have no clue what the consensus is now, if there is any.

>>102517273
>I'm not a gamer, but I need a powerful machine for video editing, rendering, and 3D stuff.
Buy a workstation.

>>102517109
Anything with a good refresh/response is going to be marketed as "gaming". There's nothing stopping you from using such a monitor for office/web and these days most of them have pretty decent colours for creative work.

>>102516908
check tpu review database and filter by editors choice
everyone here will just shill whatever drive they bought

>>102516908
Top tier: For production or "no budget" rigs
SN850(X), 990Pro, P5+, NM790, most other 128L+ TLC E18 drives
These models can saturate the PCIe4x4 bus under sequential load. They won't load your games any faster but can be invaluable for write-intensive workloads. The main difference between them will be in how long they can sustain that 7GB/s+ write speed. If that's something that matters for your use-case then check detailed reviews and testing. Consider PCIe 5 as well.
Mid tier: For mid-high range gaming or low-IO workstation tasks
SN770, SN580, MP44, FX900, MP600, 3D TLC drives with weaker controllers eg. E16, E21T
These typically have sequential R/W speeds in the 5GB/s region. Some feature onboard DRAM with older/cheaper controllers while some use HMB. Currently WD's HMB implementation seems to be the best with the SN770 being almost as fast as the top tier in sustained sequential. Some will be 1st gen PCIe 4 drives being sold at a discount (eg. MP600, Aorus Gen4, Rocket 4).

>>102513406
Both are using SODIMM

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>>102512461
Who's ready for Aorus AI Snatch?

>>102513065
As long as the cap you replace it with is of equal (physical) size or more you can replace it. The real issue is how much damage the burn did to the layer, otherwise you'll be scraping off a lot that layer and potentially ripping off the other components.

>>102517452
Not that anon, but any 4tb SSDs worth it? I want one as a steam dump

>>102517452
Is it worth buying the heatsink versions?

Are Sata SSDs worth using anymore?

>>102514692
you can do lots of advanced graphical features that older versions cant do. a game like bg3 wouldnt be possible without dx11 or vulkan.

>>102517668
No. Get a 12TB HDD and use that as storage. Copy the files to a faster and smaller (cheaper too) SSD if you want to play those games.
It's what I used to do before I made my server NAS.

>>102514756
>>102514692
How many cores do modern games use?

>>102517668
Sure. They're all using (roughly) the same components as their smaller versions. Once again for a game drive you don't need the TotL 7GB/s models because games just can't take advantage of them. Hell, 99.9% of games load the same on SATA as NVMe. Furthermore, as a secondary drive you don't need to worry about NAND endurance so QLC models are viable if you're strapped for cash.

>>102517688
>Is it worth buying the heatsink versions?
If your motherboard doesn't have a heatsink for the slot you're going to use, sure. Just don't pay over the odds for it - there's generic sinks, that work just as well, for $10 on Amazon.

>Are Sata SSDs worth using any more?
If you're out of NVMe slots I guess? There's no price difference these days so you might as well get NVMe just in case DirectStorage etc. ever take off.

>>102517741
Varies on the game. Not all DX11 or DX12 games share the same DX feature level or use the same compression techniques. Prime example is how Cyberpunk 2077 is DX12_2 (DX12 Ultimate) & uses Oodle so it can do pathtracing and utilize all your CPU cores for decompresion while something like Gears 5 is DX12_1 (regular DX12) and is missing raytracing, mesh shaders, variable rate shading, etc.

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What's the best graphics card I can get that is under 130mm wide? Deshrouded measurements would be ideal.

I know it's kind of a stupid constraint but I want to mess with ducts.

>>102517780
Why are there so many modern games using DX9 or DX11 and not DX12_2?

>>102517863
Modern games are definitely not DX9 anymore.
Also because more programmers know how to work with DX11 than DX12 or Vulkan. Older API has more documentation & experience than newer APIs. Same reason why everything on Linux is more OpenGL than Vulkan.

>>102517878
>Vulkan

QRD on this? Is it better than DX12?

>>102517889
Same low level principles as DX12 but different execution and its open source. It's up to the developer to make it better or worse.

>>102517780
How does Sony deliver consistently good PC ports?

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Day 536 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102517925
They outsource to Nixxes, Jetpack, etc.

yo i hate being that guy but I wanted to ask because I'm not getting any traction anywhere else.

So I have a recent pre-built I acquired with an MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI motherboard in it. I updated drivers as per instructions I received b/c of the whole Intel 13/14 Gen Processor debacle. Part of these steps said to make sure XMP was enabled in Bios.

I got the correct bios installed and everything (newest, non-beta version for my MB) I set the XMP to be enabled to Profile 1 (from [DISABLED]), and I saw that there were a couple of "Clock" and "Offset" options that were being enabled as I was exiting out of the BIOS. Ofc, I clicked "Yes" to exit, b/c I saw that XMP was now set to Profile 1.

That being said, now when I'm running my PC, even if I'm not gaming, even if I set G-Helper to run in Silent mode, it sounds like the PC is low-key going to take off. It's quieter than my gaming laptops (2021 Zephyrus G14 and 2023 Zephyrus M16), and the highest temp I see is I think CPU at 76°C when doing intense gaming but still... should I be concerned? (HWinfo)

Is there a way to tune down the fans using G Helper to get something a little quieter while still getting decent gaming experience? Or do I need to screw around in BIOS more. When I try to do fans + Power option, it says like "Custom power curves not allowed on this model"

For reference, the Advanced Power options/Boost is set to "Efficient Aggressive" in G-Helper, which was something I'm used to setting it to because of the finnicky behavior of the Zephyrus Laptop line, and I uninstalled the power advantage app.

Looking for advice, and would like the option to cycle down the excess power when I'm not gaming or playing something simpler like Brawlhalla. Thanks in advance.

>>102518073
just go to bios and set max fan speed 10% less

>>102518073
the fuck is g-helper?
you shitty prebuilt probably has bloat installed on it, which is why it runs a bit hotter than most.
download FanControl and set your own fan curve.

>>102517863
Because there's a whole slew of low end cards still widely in use that aren't compatible with 12.2
When developing around technicals, a major priority is trying to maintain as much compatibility as possible, so people can actually play your game.

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Can someone explain why certain Ryzen CPUs are great for gaming, but not good for productivity? Like if I got a 7800x3d, why would it only be good for gaming, but not also be great for productivity, or vice versa?

Granted I'm not playing multiple instances of Crisis while editing videos and rendering in Blender, but why can't it be best of both worlds? Do the multi cores really matter that much, or is there something I'm missing?

>>102518272
Learn what architectures are.
7800X3D is single ccx, moar cores are multi ccx. there's a latency penalty talking between ccx.

>>102518149
>>102518189
G-Helper is essentially a lite-version of Armoury crate, a power management program that ships w/ a lot of computers/NVidia cards computers.

Anyway, I'll try one or two of these options.

Thanks a lot guys. Seriously.

>>102518272
processing or rendering raw, non-optimized assets containing millions of polygons in an editor requires much more power than optimized art assets in a game.

That being said, the recent raw power of most PCs means that game devs are getting lazier and lazier with fucking optimization, hence why every game is 150GB these days.

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>>102517533

>>102518272
>why are cpus that are focused entirely on gaming only good for gaming
because that's what they're designed for?

>>102513245
kys nvidia shill

>>102517925
The founder of Nixxes is a ex demo scene lad. They know how to squeeze a full game into kilobytes and they ported Legacy of Kain to Dreamcast by himself.

>>102512461
So what precautions should i take for PC building?
I know that you need either an anti static strap or a piece of metal.
Does standing on a carpet increases chances of static?

>>102518688
I dont think theres any recorded evidence of static electricity killing components

you might want to have a pc building video ready to go but the mobo manual should be enough to do it

>>102518688
be prepared for it to be a process. no amount of preparation will prepare you for the speedbumps, so the quicker you get going, the quicker you'll run into the issues and can start troubleshooting them, the quicker you'll get off the ground and have a running computer.

Good luck, and remember, every obstacle is something to be overcome through perseverance. :))

>>102518688
I built my PC in December. My room is carpeted and I was wearing wool socks and a wool sweater. If you're that worried about static electricity then just plug in your PSU, do not turn it on, and periodically touch. Make sure you skin makes contact with the metal. That way you won't build up any static electricity.
Also ALWAYS test your components before putting it in the case.
Lay your motherboard on the box it came with, put in your CPU, put in your CPU cooler, put in a single stick of RAM, and a GPU if your CPU doesn't have an iGPU. Plug everything in then jump the pins to turn it on. If it boots and posts then at least you know your components aren't dead on arrival. Then start building in your case. If it somehow doesn't turn on then you must've plugged in something wrong since you tested it before.
A lot of first time builders don't do this shit and they don't know how to troubleshoot the problem. It could be a defective part or a simple cable not being fixed.

>>102518688
None

Is ayymd going to release cheap gpus any time soon? I don't want to buy second hand mined to death 5 year old 580 and 7600 is kinda trash

>>102518830
define cheap.

>>102514743
sitting on my gtx 1080 and I'll buy whatever is the best I can get for $600 by christmas sales

>>102518905
Like 580 replacement, so around $200 cheap

>>102518739
Honestly all of this.
Pre-watch some YT Step-by-step guides (@ 1.5X if needed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1fxZ-VWs2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkr07CutHrU

Then bring them up on your phone again propped up beside your work area to follow along as you put things together.

>>102519015
dont tag me tag the original guy you silly retard <3 :) >>1025186887

>>102519232
>>102518688
fuck now I fucked up. now I"M THE RETARD

>>102519014
$200 is mobile tier unless you're shopping extreme used and even then a 6700xt used is like $250.

How dangerous actually is it to open up a PSU and change the fan if you've never done it before? I heard that you can just discharge the capacitors by turning on your PC with the power cord unplugged and then it'll be safe

>>102519283
yea do that and you'll be fine.

>>102519283
usually the fan inside a psu uses a non standard header. so unless you got a fan that uses that exact header or know how to splice cables its not worth it.

i opened my psu to lube the fan bearings but i didnt change the fan itself.

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I'm gonna play at "NATIVE RESOLUTION"

wtf TAA looks like shit
wtf MSAA looks like shit
wtf FXAA looks like shit
wtf SMAA looks like shit
wtf FSR Native AA looks like shit

I'm gonna play using DLSS Quality
Ah, perfect image quality and pristine details.

Still playing at "Native" AKA using shitty ancient AA options?

Currently, on bizarro /g/

>>102519575
>msaa looking shit
what the fuck are you on anon

>>102519575
Thanks, but I'm still going to play at native resolution with AA off. Accuracy is more important than anything else.

>>102519656
Zoomers who haven't used real MSAA in their lives unironically think MSAA is shit
It's essentially lost technology now

>>102519575
i didnt know jensen was a mason

makes sense i suppose

CPU coolers are so boring, a cooler that came out a decade ago and was top-tier then is still top-tier now, I wanna see tri-tower coolers, and hybrid coolers that have a tower and radiator

>>102519844
CPU cooling is already a solved problem because they have IHS. GPU cooling is now all the rage.

>>102519575
Stop shitposting & kill yourself, unpaid shill

>>102519283
If your fan is already failing your psu is fairly old, consider buying another, take it as a preventive alarm
Or if is not that old... Stop smoking

>>102513740
Did you get the surgery, does the smell of feces when you dialate?

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I'm moving and I'm plugging in 1Gbit fiber, what single device router/ap should I buy? I need good wifi from a single AP

>>102517785
Instead of the ducts, you should get a 7900GRE and cut the top part off. The actual chip in right in the middle, so you'll be fine. Just get a dremel and cut the top part of your 7900GRE.

>>102520163
Buy a used dell optiplex and chuck quad port nic. Install OPNSense. Now, that'll be the best router in your town. Better if you can get one of those N100 PCs.

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>>102519623
Not bizzare enough. Where are my RISC bros at?

What's acceptable temperature to run a cpu at?

is it at or lower than TjMAX?

I heard cpus are made to be able to run hot. Wouldn't this make most cooling solutions useless unless you're trying to OC? I mean if you can run it at 100% under TjMAX and that's all it takes.

Can I use two different brands of ram even if they are the same speed?

>>102520249
>is it at or lower than TjMAX?
TJmax is what the cpu will be allowed to get to and be considered within specification from the manufacturer (assuming the base clocks are held at that limit - if it runs slower now something is wrong). Anything below that is just a bonus to the end user for opportunistic boosting.

>>102520319
You can, but shouldn't as there will be subtiming differences, possibly voltage differences and a host of other tertiary settings that go into ram so you will have to do stability testing.

>>102519844
Anon, tell me this, Deepcool AK620 or Cooler Master Hyper 620. Cooler Master is on offer and a lot cheaper and its not as popular. Which one should I get if I'm buying 5950x?

>>102520216
and where is the 4x4 wifi transmitters?
I want a functioning retail plug and play product not autism shit

>>102520251
CPUS think in 1s and 0s. It's either at its temp limit or not. In other words it will continue to opportunistically boost when able unless limited artificially by the user.

>>102520551
Oh, okay. Get UniFi. pretty much the best consumer AP in the market right now.

>>102520251
since every new cpu is killing itself from overvolting from mobos and boost algos the ideal state is running sub 1.3v vcore and a sub 80c temperature
but you used to be able to run cpus at 100c for years, but I guess those days are all over with more sensitive chips, or maybe its the volts frying everything
if you are paranoid you gotta take the jewfus/framechaserspill and manual volt everything 1.35v max

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>>102520551
>retail plug and play product
You might as well let the feds monitoring you in your house. Buy some lube and bend over for the friendly neighborhood fed.

>>102519844
I'm still on a random 120mm tower cooler from aliexpress that can keep 120W at 75c

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Brehs, help me out with a cooler.
Cooler master Hyper 620s = 34bux
Deepcool ak620 = 65bux
Peerless Ass = 130 bux.

Which one? Not choosing the peerless ass. 620s doesn't have a lot of reviews. Pls halp.

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>>102520710
To cool what? a 14900k? FX 8350? 8600g?

>>102520179
grinding down a pcb is doable but I'd rather not modify it like that and be unable to return it

>>102520774
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>>102520569
they don't have many single routers to offer, out of stock everywhere, not that powerful single hardware
what is the point?
ac wifi not even ax or wifi 7
why if you are not running mesh or multiple single ap's? what is the appeal ?

>>102520749
Ryzen 9 5950x. I'm mostly set on this. If not, its going to be 7900x. But DDR5 ECC so friggin expensive.

>>102520591
>You might as well let the feds monitoring you in your house.
I already own a smartphone xir

>>102520710
phantom spirit

>>102520551
Microtik might be a non retarded option.

>>102520790
>I already own a smartphone xir
We all do, but nothing matters anymore, because all hardware is compromised.

>>102520790
Thermalright is not an option in my country. It costs more than Nawk tuah.

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>>102520799
what makes this better than any other ayysoos?

>>102520818
if the glownigs get me I am not suicidal and would never commit soduku

>>102520834
130bux for a cooler that costs 40 euroshekels seems retard indeed
all generic dual towers are 99% the same shit
at that point might aswell get a 240mm aio almost if its cheaper

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>>102517925
It doesn't
In fact quite the opposite
A good half of their ports are trash, like TLoU and HZD at launch

>>102517863
DX11 still gets quite a few games. Pretty much anything on UE4 can be made to run in DX11 with launch arguments IIRC

>>102517109
Monitors for gaming is too long

>>102516521
Not worth buying SATA these days. If you have an old drive, you can of course keep using it

>>102520906
>240mm aio
No water near my pc. Danke.

>>102520906
As for asses, you might be able to install openwrt or ddwrt. See if your model supports it and just get that model. Even if not now, in the future, it can be a weekend project to save you from the fedz.

>>102520163
I recently got Asus AX6000 for my parents, decent performance and with merlin firmware it's got all the most important features in retard-proof web/app.

>>102520710
>Deepcool ak620 = 65bux
>Peerless Ass = 130 bux.
>Which one? Not choosing the peerless ass. 620s doesn't have a lot of reviews. Pls halp.

so why ask, faggot
clearly you want the hyper 620s

>>102521055
Yes, but if ak620 is much better, I don't want 4chins to laugh at choosing the RGayB option. Also, not too constrained on budget. Which one performs better though?

>>102521036
If nobody delivers a good answer I might just CONSOOM another asus router, I am not happy with the range with the 5Ghz though, maybe one can get a better one with better range there
6Ghz and wifi7 might be even more horrible for wall penetration though I hear

>>102521052
looks like a budget version of the ax88u but kinda not

>>102521107
Bruh, instead of a new router, you need a switch and a bunch of access points in every room.

>>102521107
It's a rgbt cringe version of the new ax88u pro, exactly the same chips but somehow cheaper because of all the leds. Original ax88u is very different device with first gen ax chips.
But just because ax88u pro is supposed to be "lts" with iirc 7 years of updates means merlin will most likely keep porting its firmware to ax6000 even if asus ends its support earlier.
Sure I'm not expecting another ac68u with its 11 years of support, but still hoping it will be enough for at least 5 more years.

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>>102521228
>>102521107
Oh and there is a limited EVA-01 edition of ax6000 that is sometimes even cheaper than regular rog-colored version, but 3+1 ending was so disgusting I would not use anything Evangelion even for free.

Also
>dual input
>quad antenna
>not EVA-13
fucking retards

>>102521189
I know that is better but I am moving and I don't need/want/can't wire dedicated ap's in every room and I just want a single router/ap

>>102521228
it seems to have half the ram of the 88u
it's like a 100 euros cheaper than the 88u / pro too
4x4 on 2.4 and 5 is good, apparently better for range
I see complaints about both these tho, like almost all routers
idk what to believe anymore
been using a ax86u for a while

>>102520590
>since every new cpu is killing itself from overvolting from mobos and boost algos
every new intel cpu
>if you are paranoid you gotta take the jewfus/framechaserspill and manual volt everything 1.35v max
you should do that on intel, yes

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>>102517785
>under 130mm wide
isn't that all of them? the widest card I think is 80mm or something.

is undervolting a pC really that hard? i'm sorta technical but i would just rather be doing something else than watching fucking youtube videos on how to do it.

is it that hard to figure out ?

>>102522333
>I'm too lazy to use google, please spoon feed me
sorta technical my ass. It takes 10 minutes, start to finish, from looking up how to do it to having your components undervolted.

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>>102522786
yea im lazy and doing other shit, I'll admit it

Thanks for confirming it's not that easy I just gotta put some effort in. That definitely answers the question.

have a good one, mate!

>>102522786
>>102522867
not that hard***