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What's the best graphics card I can get that is under 130mm wide?

And why are they all AMD. Are Nvideos too fat? Is this subconscious messaging?

>>102520866
Have you looked at the workstation ones NJewdias?

>>102520774
I'm a shithead, I forgot the link to the previous thread: >>102512461

>>102520774
Any recommendations for displayport cables since I found out my monitor didn't come with one?

>>102520882
not exactly within budget

>>102520948
Older used gpus? Just get a new case? Or are you putting it in a rack mount?

Not exactly what you are looking for, but get a riser cable and let it hang out on the case or double side tape it to the case?

>>102520931
A displayport 2.0 cable can do 3840x2160 at 240Hz.

Displayport 2.1 is also available. Either should be fine.

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any reason to consider the 8600g over the 7600 if I plan on using integrated graphics but don't care about gaming?

>>102521046
Probably not
Intel's iGPs are better because of Quicksync etc
But if you're just browsing the internet and watching youtube there's not much difference
Not really worth building your own web browsing PC

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>>102521008
I have a riser cable and it's going to bump into my nh-d15. I don't want it to hang outside the case either, since I plan to deshroud whatever card I get and duct it to 2 x NF-A14 that will be mounted on the side of the case.

Please understand, it's a grand experiment.
Picrel is a 122mm card; I 3d printed some spacers for the riser cable assembly and have about 9mm of clearance now

>>102521046
no, 7600 iGP is perfectly adequate for basic usage

>>102521046
I mean, will you need the extra cpu performance of the 7600? if not, the 8600G will be a cheaper better pc

Are Lian Li PSUs good?

Bros after a long period of NEET activity i'm slowly saving buckerinos but i'm anxious to build a new pc to game with old friends, help with cpu options pls only light gayming
>yolo get a r5 5600 now
>wait blck friday scamaz to try and grab a cheap 5700x3d
>third option?? not going for am5 but will consider other options

What is a good amount to pay for a 4070ti if I'm adding a 3060 to the deal too? $200 + 3060?

>>102520931
Any certified 1.4a cable.

>>102521143
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007108289451.html

>>102521070
Please do post your build once done. Yours might be one of the most interdasting PCs around here.

>>102521099
I'm using a Lian Li SFX 80+ Gold and had no issue with it

>>102521143
prices aren't dropping just pay now

>>102521151
>4070 super is slightly worse than a 4070 ti
>4070 super sells new for $600
>3060 sells new for $300
If they're both used, at least $250. But you can check sold listings on ebay to get used prices for both

I missed a CPU delivery and they sent it back to the other side of the country I'm so fucking pissed

If I get a fancy nvidia video card for Aislop use but keep using the APU for video output, how much idle power consumption can I expect when not using the GPU?
My case doesn't have enough airflow for running a space heater all the time

>>102521143
you can get a 5700x3d for cheap on aliexpress like 150 just buy a double tower assassin or phantom spirit and you're good


oh yeah this >>102521161

>le chink shit!!
don't worry it works

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>>102521215
Nvidia cards idle at low power

>>102521215
every nvidia card idles at like <10 watts it's Radeon that thinks 50W idle is acceptable

>>102521143
wait for the end of month meme sales with coupons that aliexpress always does and nab a 5700x3d for ~$120

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>>102521247
Multimonitor on Radeon is brutal

>>102521246
>>102521247
Cool, thanks

>>102521246
>>102521277
Does using the card for web browsing count as idle? Also where does 7900GRE rank in this? Is it house fire tier? I do need multi monitor on Loonix.

How noisy are AIOs if you ignore the fans? Trying to decide between the liquid freezer iii and NH d15, the freezer is cheaper and cools better, but if it's noisier I'd rather just get the D15

>>102521163
Just trying to build something with awesome thermals and super low maintenance.

I live practically at the end of the world and everything I need has to be ordered and ferried over, but I will post results.

>>102521322
They're basically inaudible these days. The fans are the noisy part (which is the same for for coolers)

>>102521300
My 4070 is using 18W while watching youtube
Check techpowerup for 7900 GRE numbers

>>102521322
>>102521346
pump noise is the real killer

This is my second time building a PC. I paid for a retail Windows license. Once I remove the license from my current PC and put it into a new one, will anything happen to the old PC besides not being able to do desktop customization and such?

>I paid for a retail Windows license

>>102521439
>>>/g/fwt

is there any reason at all to buy a regular 5700x instead of a 5700x3d aside from 65w lower power compsumption

>>102521365
NTA but why is it that high? Does Radeon Chill enabled not remedy it? I wonder how they tested

>>102521365
>>102521482
Brehs, I retarded. I can find TDP but there is nothing about IDLE power consumption.

>>102521474
despite the 105w tdp the 5700x3d barely uses above 80w at full load on cinebench, it's capped at 4ghz

>>102521496
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-7900-gre-hellhound/39.html

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>>102520774
>GTX 1060
>i5-6500
please tell me AMD will release their GPUs this year
I can't wait™ any longer

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Brehs, help me out with a cooler.
Cooler master Hyper 620s = 34bux
Deepcool ak620 = 65bux
Peerless Ass = 130 bux.

Which one for 5950x? Not choosing the peerless ass. 620s doesn't have a lot of reviews. Pls halp.

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>>102521550
Problem is these are also out of date. There's been 7+ months worth of driver & OS updates since and they all tweaked DWM power consumption and monitor edids for the cards.

>>102521482
>>102521550
also to answer my own question they test it with a 4k+2k monitor plugged in, set to 60hz playing 4k30 videos in vlc.

any good pre-build linux PCs?
Just for browsing and watching videos.

Gaming isn't really a thing for Linux right?

>>102521564
MLID says they will launch in october or november, literally everyone else says they will launch in Q1 2025

>>102521584
peerless assassin is 130 bucks? zimbabwe bucks? look elsewhere, clearly whatever store you're using is pozzed

>>102521601
it is nowadays
just for browsing and watching videos? an optiplex with an ssd or something like that

>>102521550
Danke anon. I can live with that.

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>>102521602
wouldn't be surprised if they cut a deal not to launch for a while after the paystation pro

sony wouldn't want affordable gaming pcs running better raytracing tech eating into their shitbox sales, after all

>>102521619
explosion

>>102521601
Lord Gaben hath blessed thee with gaming on linux.

>>102521601
amd minipcs
could power those little shits from a power bank

>>102521609
USD, converted. Is 620s hot garbage? AK620 is raten highly by GN and others. So is it AK620?

>>102521032
>>102521157
It's that simple?

>>102521584
It's just a cooler stop being autistic

Waitfagging is always stupid as fuck because components will be cheaper at the end of their generation anyway, and usually enough so that it's a much better deal than the new components at MSRP, and people act like a component loses performance when its successor comes out

>>102521671
Which one though?

>>102521660
Displayport cables are backwards compatible. So if your port is a 1.4a on your monitor, plugging a 2.0 will do the job. The other way around not so much, you'd most likely have a lower screen refresh rate.

>>102521620
>optiplex
looks good
thanks

>>102521644
lol ok looks interesting

>>102521630
it would really suck for AMD if they missed peak retail season, so I actually think a november launch makes more sense

>>102521697
I shelled out for a shiny new monitor. A newer cable is the way to go for me. I wasn't sure if there was any special brand that had better or worse quality.

>>102521660
The displayport website lists certified cables on it so if you are really paranoid you can get one they say works.
>https://www.displayport.org/product-category/cables-adaptors/

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Am I going crazy or is this a really good deal?

I have already bothered you guys a couple of times these past few days but now I'm close to having the money to actually buy so I'm checking out stuff to make a final decision

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>>102521776
Or is this one better?

is it really worth waitfagging for new GPUs? the node improvement from TSMC N5 > N4 is minimal, this is going to be the most underwhelming GPU launch since turing for both nvidia and AMD

>>102521776
>>102521799
I got mine (XFX 6650) at Amazon US for 220. It's a pretty good card for the price. Haven't really had any issues with it. However in your case the 4060 is only 20 euros more so I would go for it, it has better performance anyway

que ladrones son en espana haha

So I'm starting a new build and I'm having trouble deciding on a GPU. I got a 7800X3D for a relatively good deal and I'm hooking up to a LG C1. I usually don't play the latest games (I buy stuff on sale years after) but I really appreciate the clarity of 4K 120 on the games my 2070S can handle. I was was initially looking at the 4070S but with the deal I got on the CPU and some other things I could definitely stretch up. I'm just not sure if the if the higher cards (4070Ti, 4080, 7800XT / XTX) are worth the price difference.

>>102521800
yes it's worth it

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>>102521496
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pulse/41.html

>>102521482
>NTA but why is it that high?
Radeon has problems with power consumption at low utilization

>I wonder how they tested
Physically, TPU lays out its methodology if you click the Details box
>We conduct a physical measurement using professional lab equipment, the values are not software sensor readings, which are much less accurate.

>>102521675
>usually enough so that it's a much better deal than the new components at MSRP
Not with graphics cards. Other components like SSDs and often CPUs, yes

>>102521776
https://www.alternate.de/XFX/Radeon-RX-6650-XT-Speedster-SWFT-210-Core-Gaming-Grafikkarte/html/product/1906367
25€ cheaper for identical card
>>102521799
4060 is dogshit, don't get it

Could also just grab this puppy https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/gigabyte+radeon+rx+7600+8gb+gaming+oc+grafikkarte+804979

Do I regret buying a 5900X instead of a 5800X3D?

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>>102521847
Germbro, I doubt your website brings stuff to the canary islands.

>>102521482
It's outdated
>>102521594

>>102521831
>I'm just not sure if the if the higher cards (4070Ti, 4080, 7800XT / XTX) are worth the price difference.
They aren't. If your main concern is price to performance then the 4070 Ti Super is the best one right now.

Oh lawd won't you buy me an rtx gpu
my friends all by radeon I must make amends
It'll be a dlss powered lifetime
with no help from my friends
oh lord won't you buy an rtx graphics carddddd

>>102521865
If you do anything else that isn't gaymen then no

>>102521866
>Germbro, I doubt your website brings stuff to the canary islands.
NTA and a burger, but why wouldn't it? moortugal is part of the EU and so the canary islands would naturally be a part of it no?

>Play CS2 with nvidia GPU
>Get a message "hey, we noticed you don't have vsync enabled while gsync is enabled and also reflex, you should really enable it"
>Ok fine
>Enable it
>It feels almost too fucking normal or not that amazing latency wise
>Disable vsync
>Noticeably more responsive
Is this a meme? Everyone's like "if you use gsync you must use vsync!" but...

>>102521831
4070Ti and GRE are worth about the same as the 4070Super. GRE gets a bonus for 16GB but loses on upscaling tech. Pick your poison.
The Ti Super is worth an increase if you're going to play games that need >12GB VRAM. Mostly AAAslop and unoptimized console ports right now but that's the way the wind's blowing.
The 4080(S) is worth it if you want to fuck with RT. Though at 4k you'll need some heavy DLSS to get playable FPS.
The top tier AMD cards are only worth if you don't care for either RT or upscaling (and the price is right).

>>102521866
how about this site spaniardbro
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B09ZLRDMXX
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B09ZFBPMR3

>>102521885
I do a little bit of everything
There's a slightly CPU demanding game that has some weird behavior with framerates, but I don't know if it's my CPU fucking it all up. GPU usage is at 100% on that game.

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I paid 630€ for this (not out of pocket but still)
On a scale of 1/10, how cucked did I get?

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>>102521961
Damn, those graphics

>>102521942
it's $80 cheaper in America

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how about you upscale my cock and framegen my balls

>>102522005
That's just how it is for us eurolosers

>>102521845
>Not with graphics cards.
Not with Nvidia graphics cards*

>>102521902
>moortugal is part of the EU and so the canary islands would naturally be a part of it no?
For starters the islands are a part of spain, not portugal, you fucking burger
Secondly, even spanish websites some times can't be assed to ship stuff down here
>>102521914
Both listed as not available in my region
Pccomponentes is the only website I found reliable in that every single item will be shipped here

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>>102521914
>>102522022
Actually I take that back, one of those will be brought here if I pay 400 bucks for it
I guess I deserve it for living in Africa

>>102522022
>Pccomponentes
I remember those fuckers doing a switcheroo with the rx 6700 when it came out

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>>102520774
When is this tiny shit coming out?

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>>102521883
>my friends all by radeon
What kind of retarded ass friends do you keep

>>102521905
GRE isn't worth near the 4070 Super

>>102521903
I don't use V-sync unless a game is broken without it (a lot of games use V-sync as a basis for their physics, etc)

>>102521865
Yes

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>dad wants to switch from ps4 to pc to play squad and arma
>every prebuilt PC is $800+ with gay RGB fans, windows 11 and an RTX 40-something that's overkill for those games
>i don't know how to build PCs, but changed my graphics card so think i can learn
>looked at pcpartpicker but have no idea which of the 100000 cases, PSUs, motherboards and coolers are good or bad
>i'm paranoid because i bought an expensive PC from newegg last year that was DOA
all we need is like 8gb ram, a hard drive, and a gtx 960-1060 (according to squad steam page) and it should only cost like $500 max but i can't find anything like that. what do i do?

>>102522054
>oing a switcheroo with the rx 6700
Huh, haven't heard of that, what was that about?

>>102521708
AMD is good at sucking

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>>102521831
4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are both worthwhile cards. The others probably aren't worth it. The 5080 will be releasing too soon to buy a 4080 now in my opinion. Radeon is a non-starter for a 4K display (really any display right now)

>>102521800
Personally I think there's some room for prices to go down. Current prices are still inflated from the crypto/covid days

>>102521776
>>102521799
At a similar price the 4060 is massively better

>>102521961
Is this AI generated?
Or you're just posting From my RTX 4070 Ti SuperTM

>>102522067
They got a different cheaper cooler version of the sapphire model they advertised for the 6700. They basically put the info in there for the Sapphire Pulse model, but people got a non-pulse one. There was a 50€ price difference between both versions and then they sent an apology through email with a 5€ coupon code while explaining that "there weren't many differences anyways between both models". A bit of a shitshow.
I returned mine, of course.

>>102522089
Is the 4070 super good enough with its 12GB of VRAM?

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lörs onions on mobos with backside connectors?
gaymer bling gimmick or genuine improvement?

What's the easiest way I could record a judder/performance issue? I have an nvidia GPU. Should I be using shadowplay? Whatever captures RTSS overlay as well if possible?

>>102522022
>spain, not portugal
same shit, all you guys speak mexican anyway

>>102522131
no but bot isn't going to say that

>>102522147
it's a meme.

>>102522131
yes

>>102522147
Gimmick. No improvement and not well implemented at all. When plugging in cables from the front you have the case to support it, pushing from the back adds stress to the screws instead.
Not to mention it will be more harder to test since you can't lie it flat on a box. The GPU one with the extra tab for dedicated power is the only improvement. Reduces risks of fire and adds more support to heavier GPUs.

>>102522147
Problem is the angles are not always convenient, and you'll probably have to switch your case as well.
Take the RMX shift PSUs. Good concept, actually compatible with quite a few cases out there, but even when there's enough clearance you might find some angles really awkward for those cables it includes. so you might end up with a mess still, just emptying the PSU shroud which in some cases is useful (for instance with my Lancool 216, no HDD cages, no cables in the way, there's enough empty space that it's beneficial to install one fan on the bottom) but in others it's absolutely pointless.

>>102522111
>AI can match peak Ghibli
You wish. I'm just associating great art with a card I like.

>>102522165
Actually they despise each other.
Colombian pussy though,

>>102522200
> dedicated power is the only improvement
Woops mobo only came with a 12pin connector? Sucks to be you buddy, that 16pin gpu you want needs a new mobo to work. No matter though goyim, you can EASILY afford to upgrade right? hehehehe

>>102521143
is there even a point on buying a dual ccd x3d?
i doubt it i mean its not even a big improvement over the 5700x so why bother? either get the 5700x or the 5800x3d

>>102522247
All BTF and Project Zero motherboards all come with 16pin connectors. So it's compatible with all GPUs so far. It's when they add more pins when you need to upgrade the mobo.

>>102522048
>I guess I deserve it for living in Africa
you are eternally fucked
I left that poojeet tier hellhole 10 years ago and I couldnt be happier
seriously, get the hell out of there or you will fucking suffer

>>102522266
5700x3d is single ccd

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I've seen a lot of guides for ULTIMATE LOW LATENCY GAYMING that suggest disabling MPO. Doesn't that fuck up latency with fullscreen windowed mode games or am I getting my shit mixed up?

>rebuild my little server after a move
>won't recognize one of the hard disks anymore
>check the hard drive with an usb adapter - works fine
>replace sata connectors - no change
>use different power connector - no change
>go insane
>remove the three other drives
>go through every single sata port on the motherboard and sata power connector- no change
>play around with BIOS settings for an half an hour - no change
>update BIOS - no change
>find a molex -> sata power adapter in the box
>use that instead of directly connecting it to the PSU (which worked without any problems for all three other very similar drives) - suddenly works
fucking piece of shit

>>102522396
driver t-t-telemetry!?

So when is IBM going to get back into the x86 market to save us from AMD domination?

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>>102522470
they'll be back just in time for the pc building craze with top tier gpus for $300 in 2027

gas prices will also have halved by then

>>102522465
Oh, you didn't know?

>>102522489
I didn't. Is it an njudea thing or is amd also pozzed?

>>102522502
AMD asks you first and you can turn it off.

>>102522502
Both have their share of shit but AMD doesn't enable this by default
If you install geforce experience you're fucked, so many people don't. Problem is the upcoming nvidia app that's meant to replace the old panel, already on beta.

>>102522509
>>102522519
every day I stray closer to buying radeon out of spite

>7800x3d
>$400 on amazon
worth it or nah?

>>102522296
Need to finish college before that

>>102522519
>to get full usage of your nvidia gpu you need geforce experience
>have no choice but to give your data to jensen

>>102522535
As someone who's been using AMD GPUs for a long time and switched to nvidia out of pure convenience
AMD driver troubles are a thing the first year a GPU gets released. After it's fine. It sucks balls on laptops though. Also you do not need MSI afterburner to do a simple undervolt or RTSS to have an overlay that tells you how your GPU is doing. However you have a GPU that sucks at stable diffusion, raytracing and frame generation I guess.
And on AMD it's a mixed thing because you have a "just works" experience but very few options.

>>102522552
MSRP is 450 but it was selling for 350 half a year ago.
I'd grab it, I don't see better options popping up soon (unless you can get 7600X3D due to living near microcenter) so prices will likely stay high

Amazon still says 426 for me

>>102522574
>to get full usage of your nvidia gpu you need geforce experience
explain

>>102522583
450 after taxes :(

>>102522588
A bunch of tweaking options are exposed through the software.

>>102522619
Damn. I never even really tried it. I just went ahead and used NVCleanstall because I thought that's what everyone did.

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I seriously don't get why the NH D15 G2 exists. It's like a degree cooler than the original D15, and it's not even quieter. It just feels like it exists because the D15 was getting old, but age isn't something that matters for CPU coolers
What the fuck are you paying the extra $40 for with the G2? This product is something that should've been a replacement to the original D15 while costing the same, not some "higher tier" that performs basically the same. With shit like the peerless assassin costing $35, the D15 is already hard to justify, $150 for a dual tower cooler is beyond retarded

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Could the Dyson memefan design work as a CPU cooler?

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>>102522131
If you're targeting 4K, the extra VRAM might be a nice to have in some situations. It's only an extra $200 for stronger card, which is a fairly small amount of insurance against the total cost of the build and a nice TV. Having said that the 4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are both more like 4K DLSS Performance cards at this point (the Ti Super maybe 4K Balanced), so I don't think VRAM is a real issue. Pic related is using Quality DLSS

>>102522157
If you have the Geforce Overlay enabled, Alt+F9
Alt+Z will let you change parameters

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>>102522624
That is the forgotten part of the debate between the products. Adrenalin these days is extremely feature rich (catalyst control panel of old was cancer though) and supports features that require 3rd party software to be used on the nvidia side, such as overclocking (well, undervolting mostly these days) and ability to cap your framerate as >>102522576 mentions.

Pic is one example - performance metrics straight from adrenalin.

>>102522709
You are paying for the variants that work with warped intel cpus.

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>>102521246
>A770 idle 42w
Did they fix this on all models yet? Last I checked Asrock Phantom Gaming had a fix and I think the Intel LE had a fix too though more limited - could be mistaken. Something tied to refresh rate and resolution.

>>102522065
pay someone to help you or teach yourself. I recommend looking up "PSU/mobo/cooler/any part you want" tier lists if you're clueless or just look up some benchmarks on youtube. installing an OS that isn't win11 should be easy enough but again, learning curve for these little things adds up.
and your PSU should cover total power draw of your system

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>>102522771
Nvidia has always had frame rate limiting both per program and global

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>>102522771
Additionally there's performance tuning options, more limited than in Adrenaline, but considering a power limit is nearly as effective as an undervolt and doesn't have stability problems, it's good enough for most people. The hardcore are going to have MSI Afterburner + RTSS anyway

Guys apparently you can play Halo Infinite with high FPS and no drops with 8 gigs of vram but in reality, textures are blurry or not loading in properly in-game. Do you just have to turn down textures in settings?

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Brehs, Silverstone da750 or da850 for 5950x and 7900gre? Da850 looks popular and nobody knows da750 exists. So which one?

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>>102522771
Additionally, there are a lot of things that Radeon doesn't have, like RTX HDR and the ability to control MIP map bias through Profile Inspector

And of course you have associated features like Broadcast, which has an amazing noise cancelling feature. Radeon has a "competing" feature but like FSR, it's complete garbage. Nearly useless if you actually need to eliminate noise

>>102522771
but does AMD's software let you force MSAA globally, even in deferred rendered games? nshitia's doesn't, and even for some older forward rendered games I have to try every possible compatibility flag in nvidia inspector to find one that works

>>102522890
>automatic tuning
why do NVIDIA, AMD and mobo manufacturers still think this is a good idea
>>102522985
forcing MSAA globally is an impossible task
be thankful that NVIDIA even gives you a few compatibility bits to try out

>>102522709
On the technical side the acoustics are nicer and the fans will last 10x as long but IMO it's mostly that getting *the best* is worth a big premium to some people.

>>102522918
Either is fine, go with the cheaper option (assuming it's the 750w that's still plenty of power).

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>>102522985
it has the option to enable it for any game, whether it works is a different question - i've honestly not messed around enough to know.

>>102523049
Danke.

Been using an RX580 for the past 6-7 years and it's time to retire the old girl. What's a good 1080p card for a new build? Around $300 but cheaper's always better especially for the same performance.
It's hard getting a good answer because you'll have autists screeching "JUST GO 1440p" or "this card ONLY does 240 fps LITERALLY unplayable"

>>102523095
I have been using a 590 and I am switching to one of these >>102521799 >>102521776

>>102523095
$300 should be enough for a 4060/7600XT (maybe a 6700(XT) if you can find last gen in stock). Any one would be plenty for 1080p high refresh if you're smart with settings - high for gaming, ultra for screenshots.

Can someone explain to me this behavior? It only happens with one game. I use a 4070 super.
>Start the game
>Weird inconsistent framerates going up and down when moving the camera slowly, almost stuttery but not fully
>Switch to exclusive fullscreen (or windowed fullscreen if already exclusive)
>Runs smooth

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IS ANY OF THE RADEON 8000S GOING TO RIVAL THE XTX

I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER

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>>102522810
Not sure. I'd expect any fix to be driver level

>>102522894
>textures are blurry or not loading in properly in-game. Do you just have to turn down textures in settings?
Disable the HD Texture pack DLC in Steam. Likely this will help with blurry textures. Some crossgen period games had problems with textures, where larger size textures that look no better than the optimized textures will cause the graphics card to run out of VRAM and load low quality textures and models. You can get much better quality by using texture setting, often identical to the Ultra setting but without performance problems. Halo Infinite was garbage from a technical standpoint in general, especially on PC. Had a lot of problems, not only with textures and models.
https://youtu.be/KAPJPsOwncI?si=GdYITxVCLY3tmH37&t=100

>>102523193
at least specify the game dimwit

>>102523216
lost judgment

>>102523221
>japanese devs
lost cause

>>102523095
I was using a 580 and upgraded to a 6600XT as well like a year or two ago.
At this moment, I think your two best options are a 6650XT (specifically this one)
https://www.newegg.com/xfx-rx-665x8dfdy/p/N82E16814150870
or the 7600XT (Probably this one, but you COULD get one 10$ cheaper, think it's worth the 10$ to get this model for better cooling though)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRZFB47P

>>102523193
if you enable any overlays when in exclusive fullscreen does the erratic behaviour return?

when will the 5060 release

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>>102523095
If you already have a half decent monitor (high refresh, adaptive sync, and IPS), it's fine to stay 1080p. Otherwise a monitor upgrade should be a priority. 1440p monitors are cheap, and they're not more difficult to run because of DLSS. 1440p Quality DLSS looks better than 1080p DLAA, and it's not more difficult to run. 1440p Performance also looks better than 1080p Quality, and again 1440p isn't more difficult to run.

Regardless, the RTX 4060 or 3060 12 GB are the standard options for new cards, but if you want to go budget, a used 2060 Super is a good option. Technically the best value, but you'd expect that from a used card.

>>102523240
>7600XT
XT is a huge waste of money
You'd have to be retarded to think a graphics card that weak needs 16 GB of VRAM

>>102523315
My god you're a genius. It's the stupid fucking steam overlay. When switching between fullscreen modes it somehow gets disabled, so the game runs smooth. The moment I shift+tab and go back to the game, it takes a shit again. What the hell.

>>102523411
Fuck, nevermind. Started the game with it disabled and the problem still happens. Something fucked is going on there.

>>102523411
>>102523466
The game is likely coded like shit but what happens when overlays are enabled is windows essentially runs the game as a fake exclusive fullscreen that functions like borderless windowed mode if fullscreen optimisations are enabled.
If you feel like some further reading;
>https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/demystifying-full-screen-optimizations/

>>102523221
Try this
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Yakuza:_Like_a_Dragon#Resolve_low_FPS.2C_lag_and_crash

>>102523324
after the flop that was 4060 I'm not holding out hope

>>102523664
>flop
>most popular 40 series desktop GPU on steam

>>102523399
what is your opinion on the 4060ti 16gb?

>>102523524
Nah, that doesn't change much unfortunately
>>102523481
It behaves even weirder than I thought. If I disable the steam overlay, the fullscreen switching workaround doesn't actually work. I get it now even less. Fullscreen optimizations enabled or disabled don't change this at all.
The worst thing about this is that before, I thought that the issue would be that the game wasn't able to reach a certain framerate so it was having trouble catching up. But it can actually get there. It actually loses performance until this switching is done. It doesn't run dead smooth afterwards, but almost. It's just confusing as all fuck, I wonder why it would actually need the steam overlay.

>>102523692
just eat shit, after all, 10 million flies can't be wrong!

>>102523692
that's because it's the budget people have
both 3060 & 3060ti are more popular, with the 3060 being FAR more popular

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>>102523752
I don't like it. At current pricing it's not horrible, but generally I think you either punt with a 4060 or splurge on the 4070 Super. A middle ground might be a used 3080 (undervolted). I'd love to recommend the RX 7700 XT, but considering the general uselessness of current FSR, it's not a good option in my opinion unless you're playing the long game with a bet on FSR4, which is anything but a sure bet

The 16 GB 4060 Ti is a good option if you want to run Stable Diffusion, Blender, or whatever on a budget

Should I be worried that its taking amazon 12 days to deliver my MB even though everything else arrived in 2 days or less.

>>102523921
is it from amazonwarehouse, shipped by amazon or neither?

>>102523921
thoroughly inspect it for mossad bombs

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>>102523949
Looks like direct from manufacturer but when I check the listing it now says "no featured offers available" which usually means its out of stock.
>>102523965
More concerned I might get the wrong product or a used/refurbished item.

>>102523752
For the price, good for everything other than gaming, and if you plan to feel it for many years it will outlast say a 4070 or even 4080 as texture settings has a huge impact on graphics quality, and Nvidia will use vram to force card upgrades.
4070 ti S 16Gb is overall better though, but a used 3090 is good if you can find one, and then there's 4090 of course... Not a lot of options other than those cards.

>>102524010
>2024
>Still buying from Newegg

Does the Realtek 2.5GBE LAN controller go above 1000MBS? I'm paying for 1.5G internet and only getting 900 down on that.

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>>102524160
You retarded or just pretending.

>>102524209
Check your Ethernet cables, and make sure they're at least CAT 6...

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>>102524242
Yes...

>>102523204
someone please give me a glimmer of hope

>>102524291
the 8800XT is meant to be 7900XT tier for $499 best case scenario

>>102524209
There's a couple of ways to test your network but it's a pain in the butt.
I'm not going to go into too much detail but there could be a number of reasons why you could be bottlenecked.
1. Your ethernet cable.
2. Your switch (if you use one)
3. Your modem (highly unlikely if your ISP provided you one)
4. Your router (highly unlikely if your ISP provided you one)
5. The server you're trying to download from.
6. Your storage device.
It's probably reason 5 though. Just because you have 2.5GbE doesn't mean all servers can provide 2.5GbE download speeds.
If you want I can go into detail for you to troubleshoot your problem but it's really such a pain that I don't want to do it.

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How long until am6 platform?

>>102524342
2027

>>102524322
Quite possible the 8800 XT could exceed the 7900 XTX in RT, meaning the 8800 XT will be better as time goes on

>>102524342
When AMD adopts DDR6 which is usually at least a year after intel does.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/326869/seasonic-launches-the-new-prime-px-2200-power-supply

>>102520774
>ultra budget
>RTX 2060
>When the 5700XT is dirt cheap, has 2gb more vram, and outperforms it easily
Anon....

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>>102524591
>driver problems out the ass (or hardware QC problems, no one really knows)
>not dx12 ultimate ready, so no rt or mesh shaders at all
>no dp4a instructions so can't even use xess, to say nothing of dlss
New games still have software fallbacks for RT but having hardware acceleration makes them much faster

>>102524624
because ultra budget tards are going to give a rats ass about ray tracing on a first gen RT card? lolol
there are two 5700 XTs in my house and they're both stable, make of that what you will.

>>102524209
your router or cable can only do 1 Gbit/s
you're only getting 900 because there's some TCP overhead (max theoretical throughput is around 940 Mbit/s for a 1 Gbit/s connection)

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>>102524659
>ray tracing on a first gen RT card?
In newer games like Avatar or Outlaws that have mandatory RT, the hardware acceleration is make or break. Same for new games that use mesh shaders, like Alan Wake 2. Also DLSS is a huge benefit that easily puts the base 2060 ahead of the 5700 XT in every new game

Also it's likely that the RTX card will have driver support for longer. The 5700 XT is only one gen from being axed

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Organic RAM when?

>>102524624
>or hardware QC problems, no one really knows
RDNA1 and RDNA2 are both GFX10 and use the same driver codebase
since i don't see people complaining about random black screens with RDNA2 i would say AMD shipped broken silicon and refused to admit it because they didn't want to do a recall

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265k it is

What's the best GPU right now that doesn't require a power connector?

>>102521883
Nice, I have that song stuck in my head again.
>Oh lawd, won’t you buy me, an OLED TV
>OP, that fag, is trying to (you) me
>I wait for delivery each day until three
>So oh lawd, won’t you buy me, an OLED TV
>>102521885
Way to get the reference you fucking queer

>>102525076
nothing good

>>102525076
just use integrated graphics at that point nigga

>>102525076
RTX 3060 6GB and/or RX 6400xt 4gb
honestly they both suck so I do not recommend.

>>102525070
As someone who's fucked around with my 5700XT a lot, I don't really agree with the broken silicon premise.
Based off what I've seen AIB cards were clocked too high with heatsinks that allowed hot spot temps to get WAY too high, and RDNA1 gen had a lot of people using them with older PSUs that couldn't handle transient power spikes like new ones can.
And honestly the 1st year drivers sucked massive dick because I've only ever had black screen crashes from overclocking and nothing else and I got one only a few weeks ago.
My little bro has had one for two years and apart from high hot spot temps thanks to a shitty msi AIB cooler it's been very stable for him.

>>102525110
>muh le reference
homosexual redditor spotted

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>>102525178
>As someone who's fucked around with my 5700XT a lot
a sample size of 1 or 2 doesn't matter
you have to look for statistically significant trends
it would be great if game developers released a chart like this for GPU crashes

>>102525139
>AMD can't move enough Navi33
>Navi 33LE uses just 75W
>could easily replace the RX6600 with a $180 7500XT without external power

>>102525178
>>102525216
to be clear, when i'm talking about "broken silicon", i don't mean that the architecture had bugs (all architectures do to some extent, and those can be worked around in the drivers)
i mean that AMD shipped silicon that failed validation because they were desperate to move units (or they weren't stringent enough with testing)

This decent for the price?

>>102525281
yes saar

>>102525216
>chart for gpu crashes
yeah that would be super useful, most I was able to get info-wise before I pulled the trigger on my 5700XT was what YouTube dudes had to say about them after revisiting them.
>>102525251
>broken silicon
that's why I mentioned many being clocked too high, my own sapphire pulse seems to not want to clock higher than 2060mhz from stock 2030 but my brother's MSI Mech OC (POS cooler, needs PTM-7950 to make it functional) comes out of the box set to 2080mhz, which is pretty fucking high for stock voltages.
I still think PSU transient power spike failures play a part however.

>>102525281
>>102525295
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/66cqKX

>>102525281
>>102525308
1. Is this basically just for gaming or will you be doing a lot of 3D modeling, video editing, etc. too?
2. What games do you want to play and at what resolution?
3. You live in USA?
4. If yes to #3, are you close to a MicroCenter?
5. Will this system NEED WiFi or just run on a wired LAN?

>>102525376
>1. Is this basically just for gaming or will you be doing a lot of 3D modeling, video editing, etc. too?
Mostly for media, Linux Mint
>2. What games do you want to play and at what resolution?
Maybe Halo 2 20th Anniversary at 1080p or 2k, Psychonauts 1 & 2
>3. You live in USA?
Yes
>4. If yes to #3, are you close to a MicroCenter?
Yes and No
>5. Will this system NEED WiFi or just run on a wired LAN?
Yes

>>102525139
>RX 6400xt 4gb
this was when I finally realised AMD really don't give a fuck about radeon

>>102525075
what is that in real money

>>102525457
nah, the 6500XT was developed to sell something in the $200 bracket during the mining boom... if anything its shittyness was the pin that deflated the value of GPUs.

using a peerless assassin 120 and it WHINES.
its such a sharp high pitched sound that it gives me headaches, I removed one of the fans just to reduce it a little but it still bothers me when it ramps up. running one fan in the middle has no noticeable temp difference.
ive got WoW open and its at ~1300 rpm and my cpu is at 70c, can I just throttle this fucking thing down to half power and tank some higher temps or is there any better solution to this? id rather not spend even more money on an AIO (which I probably should have gotten instead)

>>102520774
>MSI MPG 321URX
Is it endgame?

>>102525487
>6500 xt
>responsible for anything

>>102525514
No, doesn't have BFI available when using VRR
Also I don't think it has DolbyVison

>>102525536
do you not remember the used maxwell cards selling for more than new in 2021?

>>102525553
I don't remember the 6500 XT selling at all

>>102525471
the entire world runs on usd dumb third worlder

>>102525572
OK but OP posted leafbux

>>102525587
it's actually usd

>>102525513
You buy noctua or arctic next time and not buy chinese cooling crap that is going into 1000 PCs in a 24/7 ecafe

>>102525513
>he fell for the poorfag recommendations
tale as old as time

>>102525604
But my unnamed chinese cooling crap works fine
brandfaggotry is for cuckolds

>>102525513
you can replace the fans and still come out ahead by almost double if they bother you

>>102525558
people were buying 1030s as a viable card...

>>102525453
Then you are overpaying for a top of the line NVMe, CPU and GPU. You could go way cheaper to save money. But if you're dead set on those components then they're more than good.

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>>102525453
Alright, from what you've said you really don't need to spend a lot for your purposes.
The old i7-12700 still trades with the 7700(X) in apps but has cratered in price in recent months to the point where it's now slightly cheaper and you can use cheap DDR4 RAM with it too which cuts down on the platform cost.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/27.html

And for for older titles like those you mentioned playing at only 1080p, a GPU in the mid-$300 range already nets you ~95 FPS MINIMUM:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/36.html

My edited list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDqpZJ ($344 Saved)

You of course can go for a faster GPU and/or CPU for more money but you won't really feel a night and day difference. To demonstrate a point, for an extra $160 you could even swap in a 7900 GRE 16GB that'd demolish the 7800 XT in your original build in >>102525308 and still come out spending less money:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ln4Zxr/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx7900gre-cl-16go


Something that concerns me is your monitor situation. Are you still running a 1080p@60Hz 24" display? Because there are many great high-refresh 27" 1440p options now for VERY cheap that would fit into your budget as an upgrade that WOULD be a night and change difference in your system usage. Heck there are nice 27" 4K displays that would be very good for media consumption too.

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What's the state of Intel GPUs? Last I checked they only worked on every other game. I have not seen any build use an Intel GPU lately

>>102525711
intels largely been sharting the bed at everything
still their upscaler is better than fsr

>>102525740
well yeah, their software division is about the size of RTG. Intel is big.

>>102525711
Intel is trying to shakedown the US Gov for money, fired thousands of people, sold their stake in ARM, made 3% profit last year and Battlemage is vaporware.

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why shouldnt i?

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oh yeah there's more to add to the Intel pile

>>102525861
>employees protest israel genociding people
>adl sues their employer
lmao

>>102525803
I'm worried, the 285K doesn't outperform the 9950X, Arrow Lake refresh is cancelled which means 2026 is the next desktop release and it might be the only release on the socket.
this is giving me FM2 and AM3 vibes but AMD got a lifeline from the Playstation 4... Intel has nothing.

>>102525880
Intel don't give a single shit about Arrow Lake

>>102525923
Pat is convinced god will save Intel

>>102525861
>kike infighting
the absolute state of intelaviv

Should I wait for X870 or just get X670¿

What were the dark ages of PC gaming like?

>>102526123
>¿
sopa de macaco

>>102526123
X870 just adds usb4

>>102526131
Terrible. Few people could take advantage of ray tracing in Cyberpunk 2077.

>>102526131
Was reminded of it a few days ago when I saw someone in a video from pandemic talk about how he paid $700 for a 3060 and it was a "good deal"

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Been testing out one of the 1080's I scored last week. Ran Heaven and Time Spy back-to-back, no issues. Thoughts on performance for a blower? Still need to test the OEM Dell 1080....and maybe a strix-gtx1080-a8g-gaming sometime in the next week or two.
1080 Def blows away my old 1060.
1/2

which modular psu got colored cables by pin like old days?

For some reason my CPU light has come on recently. It comes on and stays on when I wake the computer up from sleep, but will go away when I restart. The computer itself has no issues with booting and I've been able to use my PC normally, no crashes, CPU temps normal, fan working... What could be reason it's on? A bug? My CPU is an i7-12700

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>>102526297
2/2
Really curious how the Dell 1080 will stack up. Pretty sure it's the same as the MSI 1080 Aero. Almost positive the PNY is an OEM card as well. Either way, for $70 it's been running solid.

>>102526320
>CPU light
wat

Is there any issue that could come from mixing brands of ram?
I have:
>2x 16gb 3200mhz 16-18-18-36 1.35v corsair
>2x 16gb 3600mhz 16-18-18-38 1.35v ballistix
Just picked up a pc and am parting it out, but thought it might be nice to have 64gb just because.

>>102526278
I was just talking about it myself in this thread, it was dire and nobody seems to remember.
>>102525487
>>102525553
>>102525639

>>102526363
yes
those corsair sticks are probably hynix CJR/DJR
ballistix is always micron
go on ebay and buy more ballistix sticks instead

>>102526344
Some motherboards have debug lights. It cycles from CPU, RAM, GPU. Depending on what light is on it can tell you what's wrong with the PC.

>>102526412
>ynix CJR/DJR
>ballistix is always micron
I have no idea what this means
So sell the corsair and buy more ballistix, gotcha

>>102526131
In a word, BAD. Watch this video posted during around the peak (or should I say valley) of that era on March 6, 2021:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdopsKCvYM
GPUs, no matter the class or cost, literally would not stay in stock for more than minutes thanks to Scalper Bots. It was to the point that Newegg basically had to do raffles for the OPPORTUNITY to order a card. Buying ENTIRE PREBUILTS was a cheaper way to get a good GPU than just buying a discrete card on it's own (because OEMs already had contract shipments for X of them that they prepurchased). Nvidia was caught direct selling entire pallets of cards to Chinese Mining farms that otherwise would have entered the retail market.

>>102523137 >>102523160 >>102523240 >>102523399
Mucho gusto anons I appreciate it

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>>102526435
yeah if you have no idea what that means you're going to have trouble with mixed kits
ballistix was the exception to the rule
but it was too based for this world, so you can't buy them new anymore

>God of War Ragnarok has no RT
based

>>102526446
Shit I forgot about the raffles. Yeah they were dark days. Didn't best buy introduce something saying you had to pay them $200 just to get the chance at buying a gpu?

Shit nvidia went and released those LHR cards too, didn't do shit the mining farms broke that shit immediately.

gonna build a new pc and going to cheap out on the cpu for now. Will the jump from a 4790k to a ryzen 8600g be noticeable?

every /pcbg/ thread talked about ethereum

I haven't visited this general in months, this has to be one of the worst hardware cycles in a while.
Intel's too busy unfucking 13/14th gen products and Arrow Lake isn't going to move the needle.
The less said about the Ryzen 9000, the better. There's no point buying into RDNA3 cards unless you need an affordable card right away and the regional pricing's making RTX cards prohibitively expensive.
The RTX 4000 cards in general are overpriced, NVIDIA's testing how much they can get away with the least hardware specs.

Things probably won't get better because 3nm chips are at least another year or two away and the premium will only go up.

>>102526705
it's a whole lotta waiting for a whole lotta nothing

>>102526693
>Will the jump from a 4790k to a ryzen 8600g be noticeable
massive difference
do you need the igpu? otherwise i would go for a 7600 (or 7500F, if you can find it)

>>102526705
>>102526717
>Wait for new product to release (it's only 2-5% better) so you can buy old product for cheap

>>102526693
yes, its down on cache compared to the 7600 but it will still be a night and day difference in performance between the 4790K and the 8600G

>>102526740
yeah except
>old product skyrockets in price and sells out
seems to be the case now

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>>102526678
>Didn't best buy introduce something saying you had to pay them $200 just to get the chance at buying a gpu?
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-buys-latest-batch-of-gpus-were-behind-a-dollar200-paywall-and-youre-right-to-be-mad/
Good GOD I blacked that out entirely. Paywalls just to be able to shop for a GPU. The thing is we're still dealing with the fallout ~4 years later in terms of overpriced and underspecced cards. Newbies buying now and possibly browsing this very thread don't know how bad it truly was or how good it used to be.

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>a last gen looking ps4 game has no rt
Expected

>>102526705
After Arrow Lake releases and isn't any better than Zen5 we're waiting for RDNA4 to disappoint us.

>>102526740
>so you can buy old product for cheap
that's never the case
gpus either go up or stay stagnant

How hot is the 7600? I see people saying that the 7000 series runs really hot, will I be fine with a single tower cooler?

How stupid is it to upgrade to a 4070S if I'm still on a i9-9900k? My current card is 2070S and its really starting to show its age with newer games. It will still be an upgrade overall of course but I know people seem to really push the idea that you shouldn't be falling too far behind in cpu gens when you're looking at new graphics cards.

I'm looking at this card specifically because its $600 and every card down in the 30 series is either more expensive for less performance comparatively or is cheaper by a good amount but barely even an upgrade over my current card.

>>102526796
technically the shitty wraith spire it comes with it is more than sufficient, anything better than that is good.

>>102526805
you're at the edge of a bottleneck but it should be fine.

>>102526805
people on way worse cpus have upgraded to more powerful cards

>>102526779
Old as in 2 generations old.
3080 was ~$650 MSRP. Used on ebay and they're like, ~$400.
That's like 40% off if you can take the risk of buying old and used.

>>102526739
>>102526745
Okay, don't really need the igpu was just going for something newish. Looks like I could get the 7500f on ebay for a similar price.

>>102526796
it's hot but it will be hot even with a better cooler
>>102526805
the 9900K really needs good cooling and fast RAM to do well
if you have those, it's competitive with a 5800X, and pairing a 5800X with a 4070S is very sensible
>>102526838
good, 7500F will be faster because it has more cache
don't get tricked by model numbers

>>102526705
Bartlett Lake will probably be breddy gud if paper specs come to fruition
>Up to 12 P-Cores
>Cheap plentiful B660 boards
>Cheap DDR4 RAM

>>102526768
>https://hardwaretimes.com/amd-radeon-rx-8800-xt-nvidia-rtx-4080-half-price/
>Rumors say 8800 XT = 4080 in raster for $500-600
>Well probably end up barely faster than the 7900 GRE
>For around the same price they currently sell for
Another Massive Disappointment™

How do you know what's good and what makes one thing better than another? Lots of research and watching videos of benchmarks and gameplay and shit?

>>102526862
if everything goes well it will be 7900XT tier for $500, but yes worst case scenario it will be 7800XT tier for $600 but that is doomfag territory.

>>102526326
>Pretty sure it's the same as the MSI 1080 Aero
that seems highly likely, design is identical, and I believe Msi has been making Dell's cards for a long ass while
like more recently those dual fan 3080/3090 cards that ended up actually being better than some much chunkier triple fan cards, or the decent 4080/4090 designs used in alienwares

>>102526862
Bartlett lake isn't getting a consumer release, probably available on aliexpress

>>102526805
Ehhh... I have a 3080 ti on a 5ghz 8700K and it runs decent enough. Ideally, you SHOULD upgrade to a less archaic CPU, but you'll be fine.

>>102526855
>it's hot but it will be hot even with a better cooler
Is this because of how PBO works, or because it's just a hot chip?

>>102526983
both
precision boost and precision boost overdrive (PBO) are different things btw, but yes, precision boost will boost as much as possible until it reaches the temperature limit, so the chip will always run hot
if you get a better cooler it runs faster, it doesn't get cooler

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>>102526131
Goldfish remember the beginning of the RTX 30 era, but the actual dark ages started soon after the GTX 10 series released and the BTC boom. RTX 30 was finally supposed to be a return to the norm (MSRP LOL), but of course that got fucked up by ETH and COVID
https://www.pcgamer.com/is-the-great-graphics-card-shortage-finally-ending/
>April 25, 2018

>>102526805
You can upgrade the graphics card first and decide whether to upgrade the CPU later. It'll be fine in most cases, for example if you're playing modern Unreal games. You might be limited in the odd CPU demanding game, like the recent Space Marine 2, or in Cyberpunk 2077 without RT

>>102526877
A lot of it comes from personal experience. Hard to avoid the Radeon shilling if you watch the tardtubers like AMDumboxed. Most of them are way behind the times when it comes to modern rendering techniques. Places like AMDumboxed just began testing with upscaling on (after DLSS2 has been out for nearly five years) and putting FSR right next to DLSS as if they are the same thing

AMDumboxed making a methodology change like that (e.g., it never tested with RT until Radeon had RT capability and then only tested lite RT games), likely means that AMD is about start catching up in the upsampling department and AMDumboxed knows it's safe to start acknowledging ML based upsampling for what it is (of course now that its pet brand is about to have it)

>>102526877
pretty much that's why everyone starts with "well what games do you want to play"
and then there are the odd cases like tarkov that doesn't max neither the cpu nor the gpu so it's still a shitshow

>>102526903
>if everything goes well it will be 7900XT tier for $500, but yes worst case scenario it will be 7800XT tier for $600 but that is doomfag territory.
Hope springs eternal I suppose. The 7900 XTs are ~$700 right now, so ~15-29% reduction in price for the same performance is not an unreasonable ask for a new generation of silicon after 2 years (or at least it used to not be). Maybe they are counting Nvidia to only care about AI/Data Center sales so they think they can price non-Halo cards aggressively for the remainder of time until the 5000 Mid-range arrives middle of next year without initiating a retaliatory price war from Jensen.

The thing is the 7900 XT launched for $1000 and no way was THAT sticking, so if they think they can pull a Zen 5 and launch the 8800 XT for a 30% cut over the previous MSRP of what it's replacing (which conveniently is what the 7900 XTs sell for at street value now) sales will be similarly abysmal.

>>102520774
>budget: R5 5600
Recommending am4 to poorfags is devilish, when they want to upgrade they're gonna have to bin their motherbosrd and ram for new ones just to upgrade their CPU, even if ddr5 prices are going to go down, its better to just buy am5 now so you won't have to worry about changing your motherboard or ram for a long ass time, unless your ram fails it'll probably last you the rest of this decade

>>102527049
An R5 5600 will let a poorfag skip AM5 entirely

>>102527049
>Recommending am4 to poorfags is devilish
dogshit a320 mobo from the trash bin + 5700x3d from aliexpress is poorfag kino

>>102526917
>Bartlett lake isn't getting a consumer release, probably available on aliexpress
If I can recommend budget building posters here a $135 5700X3D, then I have no problem doing the same for Intel.

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I haven't done this in like 5 years, is this fine? Too much? I'm gonna switch to 7950 but wanted to get this running tonight

>>102527089
That's fine.

>>102527089
>I'm gonna switch to 7950
who cares, draw a swastika or a penis if you want
it's for a while and you won't remove the 7950 ever again after applying it anyway

>>102527105
>>102527105
>>102527105

>>102527030
>tarkov
it chews ram like nothing however

>>102527038
yeah there's always the chance for AMD to pull an AMD but the 7900XTX was priced well at launch, so was the 7800XT.
the fact the new RTG chief is looking to gain market share with good value cards is the only thing making me think they'll deliver a good generation with RDNA4 despite not having a halo product.

>>102526855
>the 9900K really needs good cooling and fast RAM to do well
Define fast RAM, I've got 64 gigs (I fell for the meme but it was pretty cheap) of 3600 DDR4. Cooling is a non issue I've yet to seen the thing go above 70.

is there any way to get a FREE win10 pro key without contracting malware?

>>102527134
yeah thats fine

>>102527141
fwt

>>102527134
yeah i mean that's fine
but if you want to match a 5800X you need to overclock both the CPU and the RAM
9900K has a lot of potential is all i'm saying, but honestly stock 9900K+4070S is still a good combo, don't worry about it until you start to notice issues in the games you play

>>102527146
>>102527152
Thanks, helpful general

>>102527146
>fwt
let's assume udict returned 0 results for "fwt" and it's been a few years since I posted a battlestation. the fuck you on about?

>>102527281
>>102506403

Retards don't know how to link
>>>/g/fwt

>>102527089
First off, that's fine. Personally, I spread the paste for full coverage over the CPU. There's no question whether it spread properly. And, it's zero effort to do. But again, that's fine.

>>102526705
if you're a poorfag the used market for GPUs is fantastic and AM4 has amazing value thanks to the 5700X3d at least.

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>>102526911
They are definitely identical. Bought both from e-waste recyclers. Both pretty much spotless and new looking. Betting the Dell will beat the PNY. We'll see.

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>>102527291
>>102527298
thank you anons.

>>102525513
Works on my machine.

What are your PC building horror stories?

>>102527983
Overpaying for parts due to market conditions, I built my latest PC towards the end of the pandemic lockdowns.