>>102527013
>the actual dark ages started soon after the GTX 10 series released
I am very glad that I bought a 1080 instead of waiting for vega, however, soon I will be going home to AMD if the 8800xt is $500 or less

>>102527105
what the fuck has he done to that playstation

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Ok anons, just how much autism point is this?

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>>102527334
Dude what the fuck is that?

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>>102527186
I wouldn't be so sure. The card's not out yet, and the viability of RX 8000 depends in part on the quality of FSR4 and additionally on RT performance and of course pricing. If the 8800 XT can perform like the 7900 XTX in RT (in other words, like an RTX 4070), which can then be complimented by high quality ML upsampling in the form of FSR4, it'll at least have a couple of months of viability before Nvidia releases the RTX 5070

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>>102527402
>complimented
complemented*

>>102527105
Op's pic made me physically ill.

>>102527105
>WD SN850X 2TB
>7,300 MB/s
zoomer here, does this actually mean anything?

Reposting from last thread

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LTwGP
Plan on playing 1440p games and doing some video rendering. I have storage, monitors, and kb+m already so they’re not in the list.

>>102527451
not at all outside of benchmarks and specific workloads that you'd already know so you wouldn't be asking

>>102527451
Actually at current USA pricing the SN770 and the 990 Pro are better options. The transfer speed you listed is around the max theoretical transfer. Under real world workloads, transfer speeds might be lower, but theoretically at least it can max out a PCIe Gen4 m.2 slot

How risky is buying a brand new GPU without warranty? Or to put it another way, what's the GPU failure rate within the first two years? No esoteric gut feelings and empirical bullshit, please.

>>102527480
Everything I buy has zero warranty.

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>>102527334
Take it off and turn it the right way around or so help me....

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>>102527334
>low level retardation
I present to you an example of high level retardation

>>102527480
My psychologist says its about 1.3%

>>102527334
imagine fucking up this badly

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>>102527454
You'd have to be pretty retarded to buy a 7900 XTX unless you have some extremely specific reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s

>>102527480
Either you don't know what empirical means or you just fudged your sentence
The figures I've seen are around 2%, but I've taken advantage of warranty several times (not just on graphics cards). The card would have to be really cheap not to have that peace of mind. Additionally, Nvidia cards usually have three years warranty. Radeon cards have two

>>102526297
>>102526326
>>102526911
>>102527397
Did I do good for $65 /g/?

>>102527480
I've never bought a warranty for anything in my entire life. Odds are, you're fine not doing it. That being said I do think I'm going to get a warranty whenever I buy a new gpu.

>>102527513
This image hurts it physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Thanks.

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>>102527538
Not bad, poorfag. You are the essence of old /g/

>>102527541
You get a manufacture's warranty with most things you buy unless you're buying used. You don't have to pay extra

>>102527373
Old flat head V-12

>>102527513
I have a chest infection and I hurt myself laughing, thanks.

>>102527569
Well okay I've never taken advantage of a warranty, then.

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>>102527538
$65 for 1080 performance is great, good job anon. you get a sticker.

>>102527536
How are the drivers for nvidia on linux?

>>102527402
>>102527422
Well the rumors aren't looking good for the 5070 because it's going to be on the same node and there's no GB204 die. With the alleged specs of the GB203 and GB205, the 5070 is either going to be a cut down GB203, much stronger than the 4070 but at a higher price, or GB205 and perhaps only barely stronger. Whoever brings 4070ti super/7900xt performance to $500 first gets my money.

>>102527186
>8800xt
They need to release the damn thing ASAP for starters. If it ends up only 7900XT level in raster and 4070 Ti in RT it's going to be btfo by the 5070 about 6 months after release, assuming that AMD take their sweet time and wait until Janaury. At that point their strategy to take market share would fail because it's too little uplift for such a short window of time before becoming obsolete again.

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>>102527647
I'm a Windoze user so I can't tell you from personal experience, but from what I've seen they're fine. As in the >>>/g/fglt but of course try to see what Nvidia users say as opposed to the what the AMD users say

>>102527695
I don't think there's any solid rumors about the 5070 yet. RX 8800 XT will almost certainly be first, but again, without good upsampling, it's useless. A 4070 is already as good as a 7900 XTX when upsampling is taken into consideration, and a 4060 Ti is as good as a 7900 XTX if both RT and DLSS are taken into consideration at the same time

>>102527707
>its going to be btfo by the 5070 about 6 months after release
assuming the 8800XT will be $499 and the 5070 doesn't increase in price over the 4070/4070 super it wont be in the same price class, at best it will match the dollar/frame of the 8800XT. this is why its important for AMD to price the 8800XT at $499.

>>102527647
Much better than they used to be, but nvidia still has no multi-monitor VRR support (for wayland, I don't think it's even possible for X11). I don't even think the Nvidia linux driver does frame doubling with VRR on, because momentary stutters that drop below 48fps cause my monitor to go black for a few seconds - in windows it would just double frames to keep the rate above the monitor's minimum. So VRR is not a usable experience for me. This is with a pascal card, I have no idea if things are better or worse for newer hardware.

>>102527797
AMD will fuck it up and price it at $600 even though the 7900xt is already $680 and will probably be $600 by christmas

>>102527707
This. What everyone that says
>You just want AMD to be better competition so you can buy Nvidia for cheaper >:(
fails to understand is that AMD has never successfully had a SIGNIFICANTLY better performing and priced option that wasn't just a $50-100 discount with some associated hardware or software shortcoming for a sustained length of time, certainly not over several generations to make an impact on the market. They've always ended up a a little lacking in features, a little too slow, a little too late, a little too expensive, etc.

>>102527797
That's what we're hoping for, a good $200 price cut in real at-launch terms over street-7900 XT performance is what gets you glowing launch reviews, hype, and sales velocity.

>>102527838
Is VRR a setting you have to set yourself or is it enabled by default? I've never heard of it?

>>102527865
>That's what we're hoping for, a good $200 price cut in real at-launch terms over street-7900 XT performance is what gets you glowing launch reviews, hype, and sales velocity.
Forgot to add AMD needs to stop fearing whether the next gen will cannibalize current SKUs and attempt to always equalize them on price/performance, it's what just killed Zen 5 on launch even if the IPC gains on desktop were a rounding error they could have not made it $100-200 more at every price level over Zen 4. New gens SHOULD obsolete old gens on both perf and price which is why the older gen is old.

>>102527838
>This is with a pascal card, I have no idea if things are better or worse for newer hardware.
It might be better on the new cards that support GSP. I can confirm VRR is flawless with AMD on Wayland, honestly I've had more issues with VRR on Windows (for example sometimes it remains enabled on the desktop after exiting a game).
>>102527901
VRR is FreeSync/G-sync

>>102527931
yep if Zen5 had a $100 cut over Zen4 MSRP the reviews would have been more positive and, Zen4 would have naturally fallen in price to clear out stock.

>>102527901
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/418E-7A04-B0DA-9032#gorfree

>>102527901
its freesync/gsync, I'm a KDE user so in a wayland session the option is in the KDE display settings, in X11 you can turn it on in nvidia-settings, or if that doesn't work you might have to configure it in your xorg.conf

>>102527962
>>102527987
>>102528001
I've literally never used g/free sync lol, I have stickers on my monitors that say G sync on them but never enabled it

>>102528043
You should do that yesterday. It makes a huge difference for demanding games. Also for emulators.

>>102527422
>TAA everything is smeared
>DLSS character is smeared
>FSR water looks like Japanese genitals
You just can't win, can you?

>>102528079
>the year is two thousand and twenty four of our lord
>the best we've got is still FXAA
Jesus Christ

>>102528101
I miss SSAA

FSR 4.0 will save us, right guys?

>>102528146
:^)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftr2t7
Recently upgraded a bunch of parts following another anon's suggestions. How's the following to replace the mobo? I need something with wifi.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

>>102528160
>I need something with wifi.
keep in mind that pcie wlan cards exist

>>102527105
This should be considered a crime, what the fuck in hacker hell is that person doing to that PS3?

>>102528160
its a good solid AM4 board but if you were going to change the motherboard it probably would have been smarter to go AM5, too late now I guess.

>>102528160
That other motherboard already has integrated WiFi though?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBWfrH/msi-b450i-gaming-plus-ac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b450i-gaming-plus-ac

>>102528146
It will if it requires at least RDNA3 hardware for AI-based upscaling.
Ditching RDNA2 or older cards won't be that controversial considering the age of the cards.

>>102528146
Radeon needs to save itself before it has any hopes of saving others

>>102528146
Save you from what? Good image quality?

why does the OP change to cater to poorfags? There is no way that 1440p looks good on a 4070 super, let a lone a rx 7700xt for anything that isn't an old shitter game.

>>102528327
what exactly does not run at 1440p on a 4070s

>>102527600
Thanks buddy! 1080 absolutely smokes my old card. Just need to see if the MSI / Dell OEM is better.
Chkd

>>102528187
I'm assuming those are better than the ones that come built-in?

>>102528224
It's a holdover from my previous build and the RAM slots are close enough to the CPU that it causes issues with the cooler fans. I was hoping a slightly larger board wouldn't have that issue, though I guess another solution would be to just get lower profile RAM.

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well this is a thing
https://gpupurse.com/products/h100-purse
h100's only 60k with a trannybag!

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>>102528440
>It's a holdover from my previous build and the RAM slots are close enough to the CPU that it causes issues with the cooler fans. I was hoping a slightly larger board wouldn't have that issue, though I guess another solution would be to just get lower profile RAM.
If that's all it is, just slightly mount the fan closest to the RAM shifted "up" a little like in picrel to give yourself extra clearance, even using zipties through the fan mount holes if needed to hold it in place. Won't have any real negative effects as total closed airflow isn't affected and is certainly cheaper than buying a whole new board or RAM kit.

>>102528549
That mismatched fan triggers my autism

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giga based contrarian case has arrived with a crusty dead cockroach inside the box as a bonus
let's see if I manage to fit in my rig in there that thing is TINY

>>102528549
Why do people buy tall RAM if they're using air coolers?? There's several options for low profile RAM at the same speeds and timings

>>102527513
does anyone remember that guy from a million years ago who couldnt figure out pcie vs pci vs agp and just took a fucking saw to his card and then legitimately asked if he fucked up

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>>102528101
webm related is 4K FXAA

>>102528146
FSR4 really is make or break for this generation of Radeon
I'll be sorely disappointed if it's not close to DLSS and XeSS

PC gaming will always be more boring because it's inherently less social than console gaming

Rate my future pc build

>MSI GeForce RTX™ 4060 VENTUS 2X OC 8GB GDDR6 128-bit Graphics Card
>AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600G Processor with Radeon™ Graphics (Up to 4.4GHz)
>GIGABYTE B450M DS3H WIFI D4 mATX Motherboard
>KINGSTON 1TB NV2 PCIE NVME M.2 (SNV2S/1000G) Solid State Drive
>KINGSTON 8GB DDR4 3200MHZ FURY BEAST RAM (8x2 for futureproofing)
>SILVERSTONE SST-ST70F-ES230 700W 80+ True Rated Power Supply
>ANTEC AX20 Elite Black RGB Mid-Tower Gaming Case

Is this even enough? Do I need an expensive cooler for this?

>>102528840
>AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600G Processor with Radeon™ Graphics (Up to 4.4GHz)
5600X
>KINGSTON 8GB DDR4 3200MHZ FURY BEAST RAM (8x2 for futureproofing)
8x1 is bad
8x2 is OK but not future-proof
you need at least 16x2 for future-proofing

>>102528840
rgb is for homosexuals
the stock cooler is more than enough for a 5600g
get a 5700x3d instead
>8x2 for futureproofing
16 is budget tier atm

>>102528840
>KINGSTON 1TB NV2
It's a piece of shit unironically

When a motherboard has RGB lights, is that something you can disable in the BIOS or do you need to install their software for it?

>>102528872
you can disable it in the BIOS ofc
never install RGB bloatware

>>102528872
bios will entirely disable it and to customize rgb you need their pozzed cancerware
however if it's not too modern then maybe open source applications like openrgb can work in their place

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>>102528234
Much like XeSS XMX vs dp4a kernels, I think FSR4 can have a mode that runs only on the RX 7000 series' WMMA cores, and a more general, slightly lower quality mode that runs on RX 6000, RTX cards, and Arc cards.

>>102528712
Unfortunately I do

>>102528840
I would go 5600 non-G, or if you want integrated, an i5 12400. The 5600G performs more like an R5 3600, and it's only PCIe 3.0, while you really need PCIe 4.0 for a 4060 because it's only got x8 PCIe lanes and it's designed for 4.0. Additionally you should be getting a B550, as B450 is also 3.0 only in a lot of cases.

>Do I need an expensive cooler for this?
No, you can use the stock cooler that comes with the 5600

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Retard here, is what I'm thinking of doing here actually feasible?
>current RAM is 3200 16-18-18-36
>want to add another two sticks
>current RAM no longer available
>buy RAM that's a different brand, different die, worse timings (3200 16-20-20-38)
>simply set all four sticks to 3200 16-20-20-38
>if there's no such profile, do it manually
>profit
Thanks

>>102529002
maybe
but you will need to stress test it manually to make sure that configuration is actually stable
i would recommend putting one kit in slots A1/A2 and the other in slots B1/B2 so the memory controller can train them separately
i'm pretty sure i replied to you last week so i would love to know how this saga ends

>>102529002
>is what I'm thinking of doing here actually feasible
yes, manually setting frequencies and timings is what you do when overclocking only that in this case you're making them worse
now regarding stability then you'd have to test since you're mixing different sticks/dies

probably a stupid question, but can ram with intel xmp be used with an amd motherboard?

>>102529065
yes

>>102529079
thanks

>>102528355
over half of recently released modern titles if you don't actively make the graphics worse just so you decrease gpu load. And that's not even taking high refresh rate monitors into account.

>>102529046
>>102529054
>i would recommend putting one kit in slots A1/A2 and the other in slots B1/B2
Sounds reasonable
>i'm pretty sure i replied to you last week
I haven't been in /g/ for years
>stress test
Will do

Thanks for the replies, if worse comes to worst I'll just run them at the default JEDEC speed

>>102529065
yes, but it will display a frowny face next to your RAM bios settings.

Just bought a seasonic focus PX-750
Did I do good?

>>102529535
its fine

>>102527422
all 3 look like shit. run it native or bust

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>>102529873
Retard

>>102529882
upcale is shit

>>102529882
>he doesn't know the difference between TAA and TAAU
Pajeets don't even play the games they are shilling about lmao.

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Will start testing the the OEM Dell tomorrow. Goodnight frens...

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>>102530265

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>>102529896
Moron. DLSS is better than TAA, which is better than native

>>102530086
>gibbering
There's no TAAU in that webm
And even if the TAA was TAAU, that would only mean the TAAU is better than native

got wifi 6E mesh routers from my isp,
with only 1gbps ports

what's the point of having faster wifi speed than the lan port???

1660 Ti user here
am I obsolete?

>>102530433
no, its fine for 1080p raster

>>102530295
>There's no TAAU in that webm
You compared TTA(Stray) to TAAU in GOW. Do you have early onset dementia on top of your retardation?

>>102530368
NAS

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What wireless gaming mouse would you recommend?

I'm thinking of buying an Asus ap201, but how do I clean the dust from the mesh in a few months? I never bought a pc like that. It seems only the intake at the bottom has a filter.

>>102527105

Trying to get an old 13 year old PC going.

I can get into the bios, shows that my 2 drives are connected. But nothing is loading. Just stuck on a blank black screen with a blinking underscore

Any ideas? The ssd with windows definitely works as I have plugged it into my main pc

Is a 4070 overkill? I just want to play Triple A games at a high framerate, medium-high graphics is fine and no need for the fancy stuff like ray tracing/AI smoothing or whatever. Recommend me some good (cheaper) alternatives, thanks!

>>102530632
I recommend not being a zoomer and get a wired mouse

>>102530724
Sorry, I meant a 4070 Super*

>>102530724
What resolution?

>>102530756
1920×1080 hopefully? But I'm used to smaller monitors anyway since I used to play on a laptop.

>>102530811
Yeah a 4070/S is pretty overkill for that. It would be about right if you did want to run ultra settings or RT (or a higher resolution).
The problem is that Nvidia's offerings below the 4070-class are pretty underwhelming. That's not to say they don't perform, indeed a 4060Ti would be perfect for your uses, just that you'll feel a bit gypped spending $400 on what is fundamentally a laptop card.
If you're okay with AMD then the 7700XT offers more raster perf and VRAM for about the same money. At the cost of efficiency and losing DLSS/DLAA/etc. That's a subjective judgement so I'll leave it to you.
Now with that said I will remind you that there's nothing wrong with overkill if you have the budget. It'll last longer before you need to upgrade and maybe you'll find a game that really benefits from RT and such. IMO it's better to set a budget first and build the best machine that fits it.

>>102529102
>over half of recently released modern titles
such as

>>102527105
>2160p
>RTX 4070 Ti Super
delusional

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Are curved monitors a meme?
I look at my local marketplaces online and people sell tons of curved monitors.
Do they want to upgrade or are they shit?

>>102530888
Alright, I'll check out the AMD offerings as well. Honestly the main reason I bumped up to a 4070 is because I keep hearing that the 4060 is underwhelming. Thanks! Was hoping to keep the GPU budget at 600-ish dollars max.

>>102530953
curved VA's are the bestest monitors you can get but that one being 31,5" is too huge for 1440p.

24" for 1080p
27" for 1440p
32" for 4k

>>102530969
Yeah don't get me wrong - it's fine, it works, it's just not much better than the last gen '60 card (and in some ways worse). AMD, of course, have their own issues that you'll need to be aware of.
What's the budget for the whole PC btw? If you're prepared to drop $600 on the card alone then it should be at least in the $1200-1500 range. At that point you might be better off cutting the PC in favour of a 1440p monitor.

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Boy I hope your future proof psu didn't come with only a single 16-pin connector. It would be a reaaaaaaaaal shame otherwise.

>>102531023
Yeah pretty much was prepared to drop 1200-1500 bucks on it, what are some issues with AMD? Not sure if I'd like a 1440p monitor since I live in an apartment, but maybe I can bump some extra cash for it. Will a 4060Ti handle that with no issues?

>>102530995
I have a 27 , 1080 now and it feels small for me. Not sure how to go about it.
I assume you mean a 27 curved is bigger than a 27 flat?

>>102531031
a 2060 is already overkill for my needs of showing a display, quake and eroge
why the fuck would i need a 5090

>>102530295
fyi the FSR text scrolling has been fixed in later versions
>how do you know that shill?!?!?
because Cyberpunk 2077 had the same problem for the longest time and fixed it a few updates ago.
using memefield for comparisons is pretty gay

>>102531039
>what are some issues with AMD?
The big one is the drivers; they tend to be pretty buggy at launch and game-specific updates aren't always stable either. It's generally fine if you know how to DDU and revert but I understand if you don't want to deal with that. You've got to pick your poison.
Aside from that they are less efficient this gen and obviously lack Nvidia's proprietary features. Of course you have said you don't want DLSS/RT, so that value-add matters less, and I agree that they're not really valuable at 1080p. At 1440p though DLSS gets much better. Maybe enough to tip the scales.

>Not sure if I'd like a 1440p monitor since I live in an apartment
24" vs. 27" isn't massive but fair enough if you've doped it out already. If you're dead-set on 1080p then I'd keep the budget to the lower end of the scale.

Here's some example builds at each extreme of your budget:
$1500 1440p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hj9r28

$1200 1080p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3MY9h3

I've left a little room for minor upgrades. Maybe you want a 2TB SSD, a nicer case, or a better monitor.

>Will a 4060Ti handle that with no issues?
You absolutely can push it to 1440p but you'll need to be diligent with settings.

>>102531131
Thanks anon! Might bump it to 1440p and get a 4060Ti. I like fiddling with settings anyway, makes the game feel my own if that makes sense.

>>102531151
Sure. A good monitor will last through multiple PC upgrades. In that case I would suggest getting something better than the basic NanoIPS I listed. Try for something with at least 1200:1 contrast like the Dell in the OP. In fact it's cheaper than the LG right now so no reason not to.

>>102527105
Getting driver timeouts when waking from sleep at 144hz. Not always, at points I've gone a full week where it woke up fine. But then after rebooting after updates it will timeout every time after waking.

If I set it to 120hz or lower it's fine. Anyone seen something like this?

>>102531327
I know on AMD GDDR memory GPUs (HBM does not have this issue) AMD clocks the memory high when the refresh rate is set above 120hz, something about it rounding evenly into memory timing refreshes or whatever.
Anyway on my 5700x3d/5700XT system, nothing of the sort, wake/sleep has been good sorry.

Why is so hard to choose a motherboard for AM5? Which one would you choose? I want to run it 24/7 for the next 10 years. Asrock rack motherboard would be ideal as it has no rgbt shit and servers run 24/7. Is Pro RS adequate? B650 PG lightning any good?

Asrock B650M-HDV
Asrock B650 PG Lightning
Asrock B650 Pro RS
Asrock B650E Steel Legend

I was set on Steel legend, but since buildzoid likes Pro RS and I get to save a lot more monies, I'm thinking Pro RS. Other than that HDV and PG Lightning cost the same, HDV, sligtly more expensive.

>>102531382
Hmm, it's kinda strange. I can see all sorts of issues when I search for the problem.

I don't really intend to use that high refresh on the desktop anyway but it's the only thing on this new system that actually causes an issue.

the 7800X3D has dropped back under MSRP, AMD must have sent a bunch by air freight.

>>102531606
get the Pro RS, its the same board as the HDV/M.2 but meant to the pretty version I guess because of Hardware Unboxed the HDV/M.2 is more expensive than it.

>>102531606
What use case?

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I recently upgraded to dual monitors and now my CPU is getting temps up in the upper 80s, mid 90s if I play a game and have something on the other screen. Also my CPU tower fan spins loudly infrequently. Should I be worried? CPU is a 5800X.

>>102530632
np01s

>>102531606
>10 years always on
get a rackmount you fucken mong

>>102531657
Programming, animu, general productivity tasks. I'd like an extrernal NAS, but until I spend monies, I'd like this to be my nas as well. Maybe use this as a server as well sometime in future? Also, I'll buy ECC ram when its affordable, would have gone ddr4, but ddr5 is not that much more expensive, except for ram.

>>102531747
Bruh, my stinkpad X1c runs 24/7, but a desktop won't run 24/7?

>>102531668
5800X is a hot boi, put some fresh MX6 in there and stop worrying.

>>102531751
If it's going to be a storage server, I'd get a X670E board, B-series is starved for SATA slots and PCIe lanes.

>>102531789
Hbas are dime a dozen. But if I want ecc, x670e Pro RS seems like a better idea than b650s.

>>102531789
WTF? This can't be real, all asrock 650s, even HDV has ecc? You got to be joking. I'm sticking with B650 Pro RS thanks.

>>102531853
Big difference between "will boot with ECC memory installed" and "actually uses the error correcting bit". Almost all AM5 boards do the former with only a handful in the latter camp. Check out L1techs for more info on which consumer boards properly run ECC (and weep at the expense).

>>102531972
>Check out L1techs for more info on which consumer boards properly run ECC (and weep at the expense).
Uhh, break the news anon, I remember him saying x670E steel legend works. Do no others support ecc. I just want it to work on loonix.

What do you need for the KB5041587 update? I downloaded it directly because it wasn't showing up but couldn't install it. Do I have to enable beta updates or something?

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is this retro

>>102531997
Yeah that's the kind of board that'll work. Nothing under $200 AFAIK but it's not something I track.

My case and CPU fans seems to be running like jet engines all the time even when the PC is idle. Temps are all fine under load, PC is very cool. How do I sort this out? I have an MSI board.

>>102527480
I bought a 3090 for 800 bucks off eBay about a year ago or whenever EVGA was just announcing they were shuttering their GPU division and it's still running well. Shouldn't need an upgrade for a long time.

What are the worst PC ports you've ever played?

>>102532296
soul reaver

>>102528605
I miss simple cases like this and I miss my 5.25 bay and media card readers on the front panel.
I impulse bought a Torrent a while back and thats what I'm using now but I can't help but feel like I'm missing my front drives. I don't know why I did, my R6 was completely fine. I guess I liked the front grille design.

Guise I need a new desktop monitor but
>gotta be 1080p, fuck higher resolutions
>gotta be more than 250 nits. 250 nits is nowhere near bright enough on a sunny day
>gotta have a crosshair I can turn on like in my current ΛOC monitor so I can keep on cheating in no crosshair gaymes
help

>>102532296
saints row 2

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>>102531647
>the 7800X3D has dropped back under MSRP, AMD must have sent a bunch by air freight.
Where? It's still more expensive than ever in europe and america. but people should not waste money on AMD slop. Intel Arrow Lake is coming next month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VC1V1IXNw

>>102532443
Shalom.

>>102531606
>Why is so hard to choose a motherboard for AM5
It is not. You just buy one that's cheapest out of these 4. Keep in mind hdv only has 2 m.2 slots

>>102532443
the 285K is not faster than the 9950X in multithreaded applications nor is it close to the 7800X3D in gaming.

>>102532477
I just made it up and ignored the video.

>>102532477
>>102532501
>>102532443
Why is the 7800X3D unbeatable?

>>102532505
Cache is king.

>>102532505
I haven't seen mine go past 35% usage and 52 c average temps. Max temps have hit 88, but it's only for a few seconds. Godly cpu for gaymin.

>>102529002
buy ram in 4 pack unless you don't care about overclocking then just get something that does same timings/voltage.

Does anyone know where this image came from? I need to know.

>>102532505
it doesn't waste energy with a 2nd chiplet that's almost never used, has good enough performance for everything, has the best performance/watt in gayming and the best gayyming performance overall

>>102532505
AMD made their architecture so all their bottlenecks are on memory, then gave the CCD enough cache that it barely has to go out to memory.

>>102530632
>wireless
>gaming

>>102530723
step 1 is reinstall windows on ssd in old pc

>>102530953
>curved
>VA
>1440p
>AOC

>>102531668
>buying an amd X cpu without knowing what the X means
cpu is designed to run at/near max temp for the full warranty 24/7.
amd X cpus have a boost feature where they run higher freq if temps are low enough.
it's working as intended.

>>102530723
Choose said ssd as a primary boot device in bios

>>102530723
your bios is probably configured as IDE, whereas new SATA uses AHCI

>>102532443
isnt lga1851 effectively a one-gen socket with MTL-S and ARL-Refresh cancelled?

>>102532619
yes because intel innovates like it hasn't in a decade. the next generation will be just as big of a jump.

>>102532619
yeah, $300 motherboard, $300 cpu and $300 ram to not be as fast as the 7800X3D in gaming or $300 motherboard, $500 cpu and $300 ram to almost keep up with the 9950X in multi thread on a single gen platform unless Intel announces something else but Razor lake was recently leaked and its on the next socket... so its not looking good.

>>102532572
You get what you can afford.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY FANS WON'T BE QUIET

>>102532840
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&F=606806000,1651000000&D=144000,540000&sort=price&page=1
none of the cheap ones are even curved and plenty of IPS

>>102532926
reinstall windows to get rid of the cryptominers

>>102532998
This is a brand new oc

>>102533090
go to bios to change cpu fan curver and use msi afterburner to change gpus?
Is the thermal paste well done?
Are you using stock cpu cooler or a noctua?

>>102532998
pc

>>102533107
CPU is not overheating, it's cool as a cucumber and I have a thermalright frost commander + 4 case fans.
I am scared of fucking around in the BIOS.

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INTEL BATTLEMAGE IS HERE

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>102533124
there's nothing scary in the bios in current year, if you put in bad settings it will just prompt you to reset to default bios after failed boot.
go change your fan curve

>>102533124
okay, I guess the gpu is completely silent if youre not doing anything and the sound comes from the case fans?
use some software to handle the case fans if thats case

Does Windows sort your drives by order in which you initialized them instead of the slots they're in on the motherboard? I installed identically sized M.2 drives in the order I wanted them to appear on Windows, but just realized that my D drive is actually the 3rd M.2 drive which I wanted to be the E drive.
I've been using a PCIe 3.0 drive this entire time. ):< Apparently 4.0 speeds aren't as useful for me as I thought.

>>102527333
>>102527430
>>102528206
youngfags don't know their PS3 exploit lore

>>102533138
>CUDA unavailable
Yeah, Intel sure did win...

>>102533138
its just the igpu for Arrow Lake.

>>102532510
>>102532525
>>102532539
What about 7950X3D?

>>102533209
What about it?

>>102533153
It's not the GPU as that's from my old computer and it has never been loud. It's the case and CPU fans for sure.

>>102533204
No faggot, Arrow Lake only has the iGPU from Meteor Lake, it's 1 generation older than Lunar Lake Xe2 Battlemage GPU

Don't post if you don't know shit

>>102533209
It's not as good for gaymin
No doubt better for productivity

>>102533244
nah. you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Is vaping in the same room as my pc going to fuck it

>>102533267
Hasn't fucked mine.

>>102533267
it wont fuck it, just make it gross

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>>102532525
Seems like that's the range it's supposed to be at. This is what I got with an NH-D15 after running FurMark CPU Burner. What a beautiful CPU.

>>102533312
its just downclocked due to l3 cache insulating it so theres less overall heat

>>102527105
>EE+GS
What is the point of doing something like this for PlayStation 2 slim?

why are SEA ESLs building 4070 ti computers to play gacha

>>102533325
That's actually a launch model PS3 with the built-in PS2
As for why, that chip is responsible for the job of actually booting up the console when you press the power button. The chip is mounted so it can be probed during boot time for potential exploits and anything else of interest.

>>102533312
many people allow the cpu to become dusty or dirty before putting on the cooler or apply paste in a way that leaves air bubbles or only partly covers etc so you shouldn't place much value in the temps people report

Saw a deal for the 7800xt. My monitor only 1080p thought I was just gonna get like a 6800. Worth it or not?

>>102533535
good time to get a 1440p oled monitor

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Why does the consumer market HATE ECC Registration?

>>102533544
Any really cheap options?

>>102533617
seems to be around 700-800€ for the older 240hz versions

>>102533590
lmao just corrupt ur data cuz u not important lel. LMAO JUST CRASH DAWG

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>>102533330

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>>102533330
Because a certain company makes gacha games that are really demanding

>>102533648
I don't think I need 240hz. I'm good with anything above 60hz is fine.

>>102533726
thats standard for pc monitors
theres already 480hz oleds coming out

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Roast me.

>>102533758
>Seasonic Prime Fanless
Absolute meme

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>>102533758
>all that CPU just for an RX 6600

>>102533535
Depends on your refresh rate. I prefer maxed out refresh rate at all times to more pixels.

>>102533758
>9700X
why, just to be a contrarian?

>>102533802
I need to compile code and shit

>>102532469
Thats enough though anon. The rest is going in HDDs.

>>102533816
Low TDP Zen 5

>>102533832
just get a x3d cpu

>>102533832
7800x3d is low TDP.

>>102533758
Why are you spending $300 for a PSU when you can get a perfect good one for 1/3 the price? I'd assume you're turbo autistic about noise, but that's obviously not the case if you're getting a single tower cooler. Spending more on your PSU than GPU is crazy

>>102533849
And the 6600 will go a lot further with an x3d cpu

>>102533814
It's just a standard 1080p 60hz monitor.

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AM5, just give me ECC you fucking Jews!!!!
R8 my pick anons.

I should just go for a AM4, where ECC works? Will the Jews decide to do an Agesa update and give the plebs the fabled ddr5 ecc?

Same build, just swap to b550 steel legend and 5950x. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Gives me the ECC!!!!!!!

>>102533841
>>102533849
but zen 5 is bigger than zen 4

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>>102533841
x3d is kinda shit for workstations though. Fewer corse. I need the corse to consoom.

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>>102533889
Zen 5 is so disappointing that x3d's are being sold out because nobody wants to wait for the 9800x3d (it's going to have the same amount of cache anyway)
That said, downgrade the PSU (even a platinum will cost you like $120), and get a 7800x3d, you'll have more money to spare after the fact too

>>102533919
yeah, i'm building a workstation not a gaming PC.

>>102533868
Then either go higher res or higher frame rate or both.

>>102533937
I'm rich so I can afford this silent PSU without batting an eye

>>102533950
Then get a better GPU

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>>102533888
Trips and no one cares. Where are my ECC autists at?

>>102533979
I don't play video games so why bother

>>102533950
If you're rich and care so much about noise then why the hell are you getting some cheapo single tower cooler for your 9700x? That cooler is going to be louder than any PSU fan, get an NH D15 G2, get Noctua fans too because I can assure you they'll be infinitely more quiet than whatever cheap case fans your case comes with, if any

>>102534014
idk I like Arctic. I have their CO fans in my current PC and they're really good and quiet.

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How do I disable the Feds from getting into my PC? Are there boards that disable AMD PSP? This is the only place with more than 2 braincels and people who care about PSP and shiet. I'll even get a more expensive board. Help a retard out.

>>102534029
>How do I disable the Feds from getting into my PC?
Use a cpu without PSP or IME and run openBSD. Of course also never expose the system to the internet.

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>>102534026
Fans trying to cool a CPU with an underpowered heatsink are completely different from fans acting as case fans
If I didn't know any better I'd think you're just trolling, you're willing to spend $300 for a fanless PSU, but not $150 for the quietest cooler on the market? Even when you're rich and don't care about paying the premium? That cooler is going to sound like a jet engine when under load no matter the fans

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>>102533798
>>102533802
>>102533816
>>102533841
>>102533849
>>102533851
>>102533863
>>102533937
>>102534014
OK, thanks guys made some changes. Some more CPU cores, same 65W TDP, Zen 4, and a cheaper platinum PSU.

>>102534071
Good news, this CPU comes with a stock cooler

>>102534053
>Of course also never expose the system to the internet
That is not happening. I'm not running a nuclear reactor. The only one that I know with fed tracking that can be disabled it Stinkpad x230. Any modern chip alternatives? Fuck BSD, I want loonix and I have to use it for work too.

>>102534086
9700X doesn't come with a cooler? just get a peerless assassin

>>102534079
>>102534086
Ok, you are baiting, nevermind

>>102534071
Noctua is a meme

if space marine 2 pvp doesn't take off ridiculously then i dont really need a new pc

I'll just watch gta6

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>>102534112
I'm not? I don't game so I don't need the biggest CPU cooler. AMD stock cooler looks pretty capable. I can always buy one after the fact if it isn't.

>>102534117
Noctua is a meme because they're expensive, in any fan or cooler comparison they always come out on top as the quietest, the average person doesn't need a Noctua cooler, only people who really care about noise do, they're perfect for some richfag that doesn't care about spending $300 for a PSU

>>102533888
ECC without Registration might as well not exist. Go Epyc anon.

>>102534102
I picked 7900.
I like to maximize for TDP/core count because I run my PC all day for work and use a lot of processes, not a lot of GPU power but I do need the CPU performance.

>>102534182
and lower TDP I guess means less electric usage, lower bills. over 5-6 years of use that adds up.

>>102534176
Why? From what I understand, RDIMMs are when you need lots of memory. Why do I need RDIMM if I can't use more than 32 gigs?

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is rdna4 really coming out in october?
would tech youtubers deceive me for views? surely not

>>102534254
rdna4 on pc isn't until after ps5 pro so q1-q2 2025.
if linux drivers arent finished then hardware isnt finished

>>102534254
They'll probably announce them in October for a December launch

>>102534304
>>102534307
pray for my cheap plastic shit 2060
I'm gonna make it

>>102533945
Alright thanks.

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Took my old PC parts (i5-9400F, 1060) and bought a chink mATX case and thew together a neat little backup PC

The case is alright but the handle is pretty much useless (too thin and cuts into my hand)

Also wish there's a version without the glass

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>>102532368
just get something like pic and sell torrent on faceberg marketplace
that particular silverstone case I bought kind of sucks though, build quality isn't very good and putting my rig in there was extremely painful but it's a budget case after all and [spoiler]I got it for looks only[/spoiler]

>>102534389
could've bought jonsbo u4 mesh instead

I’m leaning towards an Intel CPU but I’m concerned about the degradation 13/14th gen chips are facing. Would you recommend going for a 12900 or should I wait for the Arrow Lake release?

>>102534389
I just wanted something very small and I thought the handle would be good for moving it around. It's also like 40 bucks so

>>102534467
Meant for
>>102534409

>>102534450
lean towards amd am5 platform and a 9800x3d which launches soon

>>102527579
>I have a chest infection
You have ayyshit inside of you bro get help immediately

>>102533138
>no CUDA
DOA

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What's the point of an am5 contact frame? Afaik the contact frame for Intel is to prevent warping, but am5 doesn't have this problem

>>102534652
>What's the point of an am5 contact frame?
To look nice and stop thermal cum splooging over the side when squished by the cooler.

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Day 537 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102534652
Am5 cppu has those holes on sides what if an ant crawls in there. Have you thought of that?

>>102533888
Some please review my picks please.

>>102534144
that's a pretty cooler

7800XT or 7900GRE? I could also wait a couple of months but I don't expect prices to drop that soon. 1080p@240Hz, no interest in gaytracing, never using meme upscaling, never buying njewdia.

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>live with tards
>split one internet connection between 3 to 4-6 people
>doesn't wanna take 1Gbit over 100Mbit for 18 euros more (split over a consistent 3 people, 18/3=6 euro more a month for 10x the internet speed)
>never the less my rent increased 100 eur and I gained nothing only worse living standards
thank GOD I'm moving from this dogshit shit

>>102535039
Even at 1gb it would still throttle, but your niggas are on their phones watching youtube, so it can't be that bad

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>>102535039
>mfw I pay 14 eurobucks a month for 10Gbit

>>102535069
>Even at 1gb it would still throttle
you would have 10x the overhead and could split connections easily without the whole shit clogging the moment any retard downloads a piece of shit
I hate (subhuman)people so much it's unreal
>but your niggas are on their phones watching youtube
nope, also reminds me I need to swap my phone contract to unlimited I blew through all my data in a second the moment I started not neeting, unlimited plans here suck huge fucking cocks too retarded country, man

How the fuck is coil whine still an issue
All of this money spent on quiet cooling just for all of that to be wasted because of coil whine

>>102535034
Just wait. ™ ® ©

>>102535105
I'm gonna pay 46 convered eurogoycoins for 1Gbit
cheapest I could find, I thought it was gonna be 60 eur but I was mistaken
no goy housing here has infrastructure to support over 1Gbit, maybe the new housing, I have not checked unironically

What hardware do you have to support that connection? does it even work on consoomer hardware to throughput 10Gigs?
seems to bottleneck 5-7 somewhere

>>102535034
I'm planning to get 7900gre, I was at the same place.

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My feed is suddenly filled with this case. Why are ytber shilling this? It's nothing new.

>>102535111
What do you use your phone bandwidth on? I just top up for 5 euros and barely use the 5 gigs I get, may 2/5 max

>>102535187
The compatibility is really good for the size, you can fit an nh d15 g2 in it

>>102535113
coil whine is a feature not a bug. on a gpu its like a framepacing meter you can hear.

>>102535145
My hardware only does 2.5Gbit, but that also happens to be the minimum guaranteed speed in my contract so it's worth it anyway, considering the price. I do have the option of renting proper equipment from my ISP but I'd have no use for it, I only have a PC and two servers.
>housing infrastructure
Lmao, my building is close to 500 years old, I just leave cables on the floor.

>>102527105
pcbg frens, i want to build myself a compact mAtx PC for around 700-800e because my xeon/gtx 1060 shitbox just died. so far i came up with this

Ryzen 7 5700X3d (130-150€)
Thermalright Phantom Spirit (40€)
Artic PWM P12 5x Pack (25€)
Used mATX Motherboard (40-50€)
2x16Go 3000/3200Mhz (55€)
WD Black SN770 2To (105€)
Used 3070 Ti (300€)
Cooler Master MWE Bronze 750W V2 (55€) or Cooler Master GX II ATX 3.1 750W (105€)
Still debating which case i should get but i want compact mAtx

i have some questions :
- which compact matx case should i get
- is the 5700x3d the right choice? im debating getting a 7600 but im just going to be gaming
- can i cheap out on the PSU and get the 50e one?
- are there any other things i can save money on?

>>102535225
>You can fit a cooler 2x the size and 3x the price of a Thermalright to get 0.5C better temps (if at all).
I'm convinced that "people" who build small and silent PCs are just iFags in denial.

>>102535207
don't know, just used apps and surfing and I blew through all my saved bandwidth too, I try to keep it conservative and not use video streaming and retard shit like that
and my current carrier does not even limit speed when its out its just completely off, which fucks me up
considering the PHOON is a fucking necessary commodity to have on you with internet access for various crap (In my SoCiETY) it's currently full retard not not have an unlimited contract here, like how is this even usable or common? Not to mention it's expensive as fuck still
FUCK mobile carriers (in my country)
capped mobile bandwidths is such a fucking retarded thing it's unbelievable

>>102535254
I mean even with 10Gig consoomer routers it does not cap out
seems like a waste but anyway
>my building is close to 500 years old
I mean the wiring and other hardware in the commie block buildings don't support 1Gigs+
the fiber is there just bottlenecked
but that is good compared to the dogshit solutions some private housing companies in this town have and have had for years, they don't even have fiber, that they had 20 years ago across the street
actually retarded unironically

>>102535285
>Cooler Master MWE Bronze 750W V2 (55€) or Cooler Master GX II ATX 3.1 750W (105€)
Get a better psu??
>>102535285
>Still debating which case i should get but i want compact mAtx
I'm getting a qube 500.

>>102535294
I hope you are just acting retarded. Cooler 2x the size is also going to run at lower fan rpm. Low stress on fans, low noise. I'd fit the biggest cooler that'll fit.

Anons , what liquid do you use for cleaning out thermal paste?

>>102535187
it's cheap and looks nice
too bad lian li are retarded and mesh version comes with poor quality bottom dust filter while the one with cringe glass has a proper nylon filter

>>102535398
wet napkin

>>102535398
Isopropyl alcohol. Use the 99% stuff for electronics.

Are there still fans that come with a single light color or all of it is now rgb? Looking for a white matte hue with good cooling quality

>>102535350
any reasons why i should get the 100e one?

>>102535398
also pure acetone or washing gasoline
or just wipe it off with lint free paper if nothing
it's not rocket science and wont fuck up your shit

>>102535453
CM one was tier c, not the worst thing ever, but see if something better fits you: https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

keep getting really good deals for 3060s. I'm being told not to buy them because the jump from 3060 to a 5050/5060 will be like 60%.

should I wait ?

>>102535453
I'm getting one in tier c as well lol. I didn't realize. I'm probably getting silverstone da750/da850 or sx700.

>>102535525
First rule of GPUs, "waiting" for anything but top end **90-series cards is for retards

>>102535525
>buing two generations behind

>>102535581
They are the only cards they have in stock at my best buy.

>>102535599
Ever heard of online shopping?

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-6980p-performance

Holy

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Any recs for non rgbt fans?

>>102535610
Too many fake cards scams, amazon is corrupt as fuck.

>>102535617
>500w
I can't wait for ARM to replace all this garbage.

>>102535617
>struggles to beat a epyc chip with less cores
truly amazing

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https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-6980p-performance

INTEL WON RETURN OF KING

AYYMDEAD EPOO GARBAGE GOT UTTERLY DESTROYED IN PERFORMANCE BENCHMARKS

>>102535624
retard

>>102535622
Found arctic p12 and p14. They are the cheapest. F12 and F14 cost as much as noctua. Are P12 and P14 any good?

>>102535772
They're fine. Perform well, especially for the money, but have a resonance at ~1000RPM. It's probably fine in a case but you'll need to spend more if you're a noise freak.

>>102535624
Just buy directly from Amazon and record yourself unboxing it retard

>>102535965
Not a noise freak, I wanted to buy a server and put it in the room, but couldn't find good deals. If I get ECC on AM5, I'm going to be really happy.

>>102535993
If it's going to be in the same room as you 24/7 then I would suggest some more premium fans. Noctua, BeQuiet, NoiseBlocker, Scythe, etc. - the usual suspects. Big QoL upgrade for like $50. Of course a big reason for building a server is so that you /don't/ have it in your room so maybe consider that instead.

>>102535772
>F12 and F14 cost as much as noctua
you're probably looking at value pack of 5 bro
they cost like 1/4 of a noctua fan

>>102536104
>>102536104
>>102536104
>>102536104

What's the best processor under/around $1000? Building a video editing workstation, work will pay up to $4000 of the cost.

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>>102530572
>taau in gow
That's not TAAU. Those are all full resolution 1440p
How are Radeontards so consistentlyand demonstrably wrong?

>>102536165
the water in all four panels looks smeary and shit, I've seen better water in games from the mid-2000s

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>>102536190
It's probably better when not encoded for youtube (I don't know, I don't care to play nuGoW or Horizon)
But the main problem is the screen space reflections, which are complete garbage. Using full RT would solve the problem

>>102532296
Recently, the Dead Space remake. Constant fucking stuttering. TLoU was pretty bad as well, horrible CPU usage that lead to massive stuttering and inconsistent framerates
https://imgsli.com/MTg2ODY3

>>102536165
god damn that water looks like ass in every version

>>102528887
>it's only got x8 PCIe lanes
disregard this guy

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>>102537076
As games get more and more VRAM demanding, more games will have trouble. It's worth it to spend a few extra bucks on a PCIe 4.0 system if you're getting any x8 lane graphics card that's designed for PCIe 4.0

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>>102537076