>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped>12VHPWRDO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERSFully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt. https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL RefreshInstability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.>CPUSHTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3DMulticore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU>GRAPHICS CARDS1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 4060; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti SuperAmateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090>RAMDDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32>COOLERSStandout: Phantom Spirit (or variant)https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/>PSUSA new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliantAim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system loadhttps://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>SSDSWD SN850X 2TBAvoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDshttps://ssd.borecraft.com/>MOTHERBOARDSGood power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and aboveDon't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset>GAMING MONITORSDell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URXhttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4DPrevious: >>102527105
Good day, I just wanted to say that I hate Intelaviv.
Intel's new chips are completely backdoored and designed to be turned into weapons that give you havanah syndrome if you post any anti israel stuff using their AI detection
Just missed that there was a new thread What's the best processor under/around $1000? Building a video editing workstation, work will pay up to $4000 of the cost.
>>102536141I believe it.
>>102536156I think there might be some threadrippers around that price
>>102536141Tell me which processor doesn't?Intel MEAMD PSPARM TrustZone.Hardware is compromised. Using Loonix or BSD is just huffing copium. Using Loonix is the least we can do anyway.
>>102536184Yeah that's what I'm thinking, or a i9
When new Nvidia cards? I’m not paying 1.5k for a 2 year old card.
AMD fans are malding the king is coming back
>>102536104>tfw over 50 entries of filtering fakeframe schizo botsend fucking help
>>102536256January
>>102536202maybe the MIPS chip in my router
>>102536156$4k is around the lower limit for a Threadripper/Xeon workstation. If your company permits you to DIY it then I'd suggest looking there. Whereas if they require you to buy a prebuilt $4k likely won't cut it. From a quick search $5000 seems to be the floor price for OEM HEDT machines.
>>102536304You wish, I hope risc v makes it.
>>1025362562 more weeks
Actually mental how Nvidia is going to release a card called the 5050
I want to upgrade my GPU and sleep on it for the next 5 years, playing things at least on medium settings on 1080p or 1440p. Is anything below a 4070 courting disaster? Though I guess it's futurology.>>102536141>"Reply to this meme to die instantly" will happen in your lifetimeBoth grim and based.
>>102536468they should've released a budget version gtx 900 series and called it GTX 911 and released it on september 11th.
>>1025365054070 SuperThe PS5 will still be a development target for most games at that time, so a 4070 Super will still be usable with reduced settings and low input resolution DLSS
Still cant decide if I should get a 27'' 1440p monitor or 24'' 1080p 144hz. (Both are upgrades bc ive been using a 1080p 60hz for ages).I only want to spend like 150 max. Anyone got a recommendation for a good one that youve been using for a couple of years that works without problems and is in this price range?
>>102536668Always go 1440p if you're buying a new monitor. 1080p DLAA and 1440p DLSS Quality cost the same in terms of performance, and 1440p DLSS Quality looks better. Probably not worth buying used, as you can get a really good 1440p like the Dell G2724D new with warranty for $180.I would strongly consider the Q27G3XMN for another $100, as it'll give you entry HDR.
Any reputable company that make a sturdy dual monitor arm? Im thinking humanscale which costs a pretty penny.
>>102536718Thanks. I forgot to mention I will have to buy it on amazon bc I will be using some old gift cards and thats why my budget is also 150. The first dell one you mentioned starts at over 250 there. Ive been looking and it seems like you cant find any good 27'' 1440p ones in this price range so I probably will have to just get a decent 1080p one with a high refresh rate :/
>>102536850Even if you have to get a 1080p monitor, you can still get better image quality using DLDSR, in conjunction with DLSS if need be. You can set 1440p or 4K as the render target and DLDSR and DSR will downsample to your 1080p monitor.
>>102536935I'll be honest idk anything about DLDSR/DLSS. I wrote that down for now and will probably watch a youtube tutorial later on lol
>1080 for $65>overclocks decentlyHowd I do bros?
>>102536104realistically speaking, what can amd do for zen6? i can only assume they'll launch the same 6 core but on slightly better node.
>go from 3800x and gtx 1080 to 5700x3d and 4070 super>can play on high settings now>games barely look any differenthm.
>>102537072
>>102537072My EVGA 1080 ftw2 11gbps Vram factory OC score exactly 8000 in time spy graphics score and it's been on for 24/7 for 7 years now and never repasted
>>102537118>only 200fpslmao try a real benchmark
>>102537181why did old games looks so much better than modern games, bros?
I need a cooler that uses a Push Pin system, currently in production/available for purchase from retailers and works better than the stock LGA1200 cooler
>>102537200Art direction.There are game devs that achkually put view and coherence on the projects they work and its noticeable. Tell me... what was the last game that was visally unique over all the trash that gets pumped every year?
>>102537278...Concord
>>102537255Intel makes an "upgraded stock" coooler in the BXTS15A. Currently $60 on Amazon US, which is way too much, but might go cheaper on Ebay.
>>102537200Magic apparently.
>>102537417i don't feel so good
>>102537447>1440pfound the problem
>>102537472my mistake, i was drunk when i took that screenshotbros, why do games from 2000 and 4 look better than this?
>>102537412Shit sucks. 8 years ago I could have had tower coolers with push pins for $20.
Can I use 2 monitors with iGPU of 7900x?
Why would Nvidia make an RTX 2060 variant with 12gb of VRAM but not do the same for the 3070 or 3060ti?
>>102536615Won't the VRAM screw me over eventually? I'm starting to get why people bitch at Nvidia's VRAM per price level, even if game devs are to blame too.
>>102537621From a performance standpoint, yes. The IGP has enough grunt to drive 8k60. The actual bottleneck will be artificial - the mobo ports and software locks.
>>102537783The dude you're replying to is a marketer. He will claim X GB is enough for the GPU core regardless of the card.
>>102537783When you say eventually how eventual do you mean? It's probably fine for 3-4, even 5 years, if you're lucky maybe more. The thing is Nvidia, by market dominance, have de facto control over games VRAM usage. Their cards have enough VRAM because nobody makes games that only sell to a narrow range of people. That era of PC gaming is long past, it's unlikely there's going to be a new Crysis analog.
>>102537758It would have been 16 GB for GA104>>102537783Generally speaking the card will be far too weak for its intended resolution before the VRAM becomes a real problem>>102537829>regardless of the cardRadeon can't do anything besides add nearly useless VRAM to its cards
>>102537783See what I mean.
5800x3d is sold out and scalped everywhere rnhow bad is the 5700x3d? is there a huge difference?5800x3d $4505700x3d $179
Threadly reminder that all poorfags should be considering the rx 5700 xt over the rtx 2060, costs less and has 2gb more vram.>inb4 no ray tracingthe 2060 is too weak to handle that on top of the anemic 6gb vram buffer.
They don't call AMDelusionals delusional because they're in touch with reality
technical masters only in this thread from now on
>>102536156>>102536316You can get a 12 core Xeon W3 2423 for $540 and the Asrock w790 rs 2.0 for $500 when it's properly in stock and not scalped.RAM would be up to you, you can get 32GB ECC Registered DDR5 DIMMs for under $130 each if you look around.
>>102536104medium 1440k gaming possible on RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC?
>High-end, 27" 1440p OLED monitor with minimal GAYMER aesthetics released (Sony INZONE M10S)>It's fucking $1,100 (480Hz, switchable 1080p mode)Not paying that much for a 1440p monitor due to media scaling issues.I don't play shooters that much to justify a 480Hz panel.
>>102538041maybe
How can i upgrade this? i'd like to mainly replace the graphics card, this build sucks for gaming bad, but i dont want to throw out stuff, i'd like to replace the least amount of component i can while still making it very good for gaming, is that possible?I do not keep up with the pc building stuff so any advice appreciated
>>102538041watch gaymers nexus video
Someone please give me a quick reminder of which SSDs from other brands are equivalent to the WD black SN850X
>>102538041It's a 5% worse version of the same chip, there's no reason to consider the 5800X3D unless the price is really close.
>>102538206The CPU will hold back any decent video card you upgrade.Buy a 5600 or 5700X3D, they should be compatible with your B450 motherboard with a BIOS update.Then you can get a more recent budget/mid-range video card.
>>102538041Not really. The 58 clocks a lot higher so will fare better in cache-light games like esports but they might as well be identical for general gaming.
Some dude I know wants to build a computer that "plays everything on 4k"I don't give/know a shit about videogames, what components would suffice for that? I'm assuming 7800x3d + 4080S/4090?
>>102538206How much money have you got available to spend? I'm assuming you're going for a limited budget, so I'd get either an A750 or an RX 6600 for the GPU, and replace the CPU with a 5700X3D. Is your RAM a single 8gb stick? Get another identical one or buy 2x8 3200 CL16.
>>102538295Yes, possibly cheaping out on the CPU if necessary as 4k will almost always weigh more on the GPU.
>>102538122That's a lot of money for 12 cores. Even with ECC support.
I'm mildly retardedhow would I go about upgrading my nvme to a larger one? how do I transfer windows to it?
>>102538352You can clone a drive into another one but it's usually less of a hassle to just install windows from scratch and copy the files over.
>>102538248>>102538290thanks anons
>>102538307>as 4k will almost always weigh more on the GPUHe currently has a 10700, will that be enough performance for 4k gaming hence avoiding the change in platform or it's "too old" by now?
Are my temps a tad high?PC has been on all day and I've gaymed for the past 2 hours with vsync off
>>102538497looks normal for a low end 6700 XT
>>102538497>unspecified game>unspecified ambient temp
>>102538497>82c max temp, 98c max hotspot>2550MHz max clock, 186w max usageThey do seem high for a 6700 XT.Mine OCed at 2870MHz with the power limit at +15% maxes at ~65c temp and 85c hotspot but like the other anon said ambient temp is also a factor.
>>102538497Hotspot a bit high but it's fine. If you don't care about resell value open it up and slap PTM-7950 on it
>>102538365what's a good free cloning utility?
>>102538613clonezilla
>>102538597it's completely normal for a low end 6700 XT, he didn't specify the exact model but you can see it has a lower power limitthe AMD reference model behaves the same
>>102538649Oh right, 186Wwelp
Found an ad for a 2700X for 20 bucks but seller says it's been overclocked heavily and now it's degraded. How bad could it be? I just want to put it in my homeserver so I don't care if it can't boost or something.
>>102538787>but seller says it's been overclocked heavily and now it's degraded14nm was a tough node so you can guarantee he did something REALLY stupidi would still take it for 20 buckstry static 3.7-3.8 GHz at 1.35 V
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kfdqKXfirst PC for my younger brother so he can play some GTA V and Fortnite and shit. Does it work?
>>102538957I'd grab this insteadhttps://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/rh7scf/Is there a reason you chose that mobo, seems very expensiveDo you need it to be atx and have wifi?
>>102539072>>102538957or honestly, even just a 6600. Gets 70-80fps in fortnite absolute max settings 1080p & does perfectly fine in GTAV very high settings too.If he's not playing anything more demanding you don't need more
>>102538273okay>>1025382981k $
>>102538957I am doing the exact same thing for mine soon but I went with a normal Ryzen 5 5600, a B550 PRO VDH WIFI (cheaper and still good vrm) and a 6650XT instead
sn580 bench
>>102539424this was my old sn550 bench >>83427753 I bought it because it was a recommended ssd in the OP back then too
>>102538497Why didn't you include the whole Hwinfo sensor list? Right below it says thermal limit. Anything below 100% is working as intended.
>>102539424i hate this memecrystaldiskmark doesn't give any useful data regarding ssds
>>102539169I would get a 5700X3D, a nice new monitor and wait for the 8800XT
>>102539072>>102539113thank you, I'll look into the RX 7600 and choose either this one or the mentioned 3060. The former seems to be a tiny bit better but I've only ever used Nvidia cards which makes me kinda apprehensive. It's true that the board is a bit much for the build and while I need the wifi there's probably a cheaper option like >>102539383 mentioned. Also >>102539383 that's pretty cool, good luck on your build! Seems to be pretty good as well.
Can 7900x handle vms and will 48gigs be enough or do I need 64 gigs?
>>102537147Nice! I got a Dell OEM 1080 I need to test later when I get home. >>102537181Kek will do
>>102538957>>102539113would this also work with an 8GB 4060? I've heard it's not usually worth price-performance wise but it's about the same price over here as the other two
>>102538042I concur with you anon. But the poorest of poorfags (like myself) might have to settle for a 1080.
Now that we know that MH Wilds will run at 60fps on 1080p, medium preset and DLSS on, is it safe to assume that pic related will run it at least at high without problems and maybe without DLSS?
>>102540298In the USA, the Gigabyte Eagle with the Quiet BIOS switch flipped is the best MSRP 4070 Super
Is there any performance hit from installing my GPU in any pcie slot besides the top one? I want to install mine onto the bottom slot of my mATX board because it'd be right up against the mesh that way, but not if it'll perform worse
How much RGB fans can you daisy chain before it becomes a fire hazard?Thermalright isn't exactly forthcoming with how much amps the ARGB pulls on their tl-s12-s fans
>>102540445most of the times only the top one will be full pcie4x16 with the ones below even going low as pcie2x4 even if physically they look like x16 connectors
>>102540444I've just checked and it's actually cheaper here too. I'll change it right away. Thanks, anon
Does pny have the best Nvidia coolers now? Last I checked it was asus strix and EVGA, but EVGA fucked off and I refuse to buy an Asus product
>>102540444Btw, with flipped you mean off, right?
>>102540681I mean onYou want the Quiet BIOS to be enabled
>>102536141if your machine is online, its automatically compromised
>>102540445read your mobo manual, most times the top slot has the most bandwidth
>>102540444Not him but why would you want to enable a BIOS tuned to decrease fan RPM which means increasing temperature and decreasing boosting capability?
>>102540733Performance is exactly the sameTemps are extremely closeThe card is just quieter
>>102540468mail them
>>102540468RGB is for fags. You're not a fag, are you anon?
most mid-high tier cards currently at full MSRP as opposed to ~50 bucks off a few weeks ago.>"free" game includedwhen will it end
What's the use case for those 1000+ watt PSUs? Doesn't even something like a 4090 only need an 850 watt?
>pc developers release a game
>>102541344hahaof course noti dont have rgb on my pc and if my parts have them i turn them off
>>1025413674090+high end cpu+a bunch of drives=~850wyou need more
>>102540298That should get you over the bar. But it is still concerning right now that even a 6700XT can't get 1080p 60fps without Frame Generation being enabled, that's a red flag right there.
>buy 360hz QD-OLED>everyone suddenly releases 480hz glossy WOLEDs that are better in every wayoh well at least I "only" paid 500€ for it
Why shouldn't I buy an NH P1 to cool my Ryzen 7600? Noctua lists that it can be used for it, just low turbo headroom
>>102541524My rule is when I buy something I don't look at anything to compare it to.As they say, ignorance is bliss.
>>102540142Depends on what you're trying to do. Some years back, I used to run a W10 gaming VM on a 4c/4t Pentium laptop with 8GB RAM.
>>102541367Efficiency curve, gradual PSU degradation over the years, silent operation.
>>102541367intlel and nvidia (((high end))) also known as housefires over here
without bringing up burn in sell me on NOT buying an OLED monitor
anons, the system requirments for MH wilds is out. I have a 3050 8gb, how good am I at mid settings? or is it time to upgrade to a 4060?
>>102541367They used to be for multiple GPU setupsThey're now mainly used for threadrippers, core i9s and workstations
>>102542132why did you buy the 3050 over the RX6600, anyway its basically close to the 5600XT
Brehs, how important is ATX 3.0 for PSUs?
>>102542132>I have a 3050 8gblol
>>102542166It was a hand down from a relative, so its still useable for MH wilds. thanks
How many watts does a 10+ HDD eat? Does the consumption increase with capacity?
>>102542198just look at the power draw in the label you faglord
>>102542198200W, no.
>>102542198~10-15w while idle~20-25w when spinningNo.t. someone who has a lot of them in a NAS.
Real talk: how many of you here have owned an amd gpu and how long ago was it?
>>1025424096700 XT1 second ago
>>102542409Running one right now, and upgrading in November to 7900XTX as I will leave the 1080p land for greener and higher resolutions.
>>1025424097850hd. replaced it in 2018
>RTX 4090 getting slowly discontinued and stock is drying upRTX 5090 FUCKING WHENI NEED TO PLAY MINECRAFT WITH SHADERS AND PROMPT WAIFUS BEFORE I GET OLD
>>102542409I've owned two Radeon cards, they're both relics. One of them is my favorite GPU.I do think RDNA4 and especially 5 will have some competitive offerings.If AMD doesn't release a good $400~600 video card within the next two years, you'll know they stopped caring.The AMD GPUs designed alongside major console APUs tend to be the better ones.
>>102542501This fr fr
>>102542409R9 280XRX 470Both were garbageSwitched to Nvidia never looked back
>>1025424096700xtright nowjust werks
>>102542558>doesn't know what a cpu bottleneck is
Not sure if I should ask her but I need a cheap laptop for work, any recommendation?Need at least 15" screen and i5 cpu
>>102542592>doesn't know what driver overhead is
>>102542598go to /tpg/. You best would be P50 or some P series laptop.
>>102542600moron
>>102542558I'd probably blame the 4460 CPU for that performance.4GB RX580 was also a budget card that was mostly available thru OEM PCs.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cuk-continuum-gaming-pc-ryzen-radeon-rx-580/8.html
>>102542619Dipshit
>>102542629I blame Radeon
>>102542630that is what you are yes.
>>102542647Aw, your poorfag ass is still buying RadeonYesterday, garbage DX11 driver Today, garbage FSRSucks to be you
>>102542660>different CPUS offer different performance, fuck u AMD!
>>102542639R9 290X is a generation behind GeForce Maxwell cards, one game performance average means nothing btw.I pulled the Sekiro bench because the earlier image did.Maxwell & Pascal were exceptionally great generations of GPUs, it hasn't been repeated since.
I don't blame the sub $400, or even $500, RDNA2 card owners.There were availability and pricing issues with equivalent RTX cards.If you got a 6600/XT or 6700/XT below MSRP, you did well.RTX 3070 owners are going to replace their cards at about the same time as these guys.
>>102542409several starting in 2013:2013 HD 68502014 HD 78502015 HD 7950 x2 crossfirelate 2016 R9 Fury2022 Vega 562024 RX 5700 XTThe only ones that gave me trouble was the HD 7850 (was a defective Gigashyte model) and crossfire.The fury was ridicously stable by comparison, it carried me through a lot of gaming.
>>102542673Too stupid even to understand information when it's right in front of your faceTypical Radeon buyer>>102542692That's entirely down to Radeon's driverNot the unlimited performance of the graphics cardsOf course there were other lackings, e.g., Radeon didn't have a Fast Sync knockoff while 60 Hz monitors were commonplace
>>102538957>AM4why
>>102542785>The only ones that gave me trouble was the HD 7850 (was a defective Gigashyte model)I have really good memories of my Sapphire HD 7850, replaced it with an EVGA GTX 980 later on.I didn't play a lot of visually demanding games though, it was single-player games like Skyrim and Arkham City.
>>102542835I remember it running Metro 2033 quite well before it started crashing on me randomly, I RMAed it and gigabyte sent it back claiming it was "fixed" when they'd done nothing to it.Thankfully I snapped up dual HD 7950s for $120 each during a mining crash so it was a short wait.
>>102542474I wouldn't buy a top-class GPU this late in the product cycle, especially with the RT/AI hardware improvement expected in RDNA4 chips.I'm guessing Radeon will release at least one new card marketed for 4K gaming.7900XTX price in the US is still over $900, these won't come down much @ Black Friday.
>>102541426AMD's SVP Jack Huynh practically admitted PC game developers prioritize GeForce optimization because that's where the market is.I respect all the Linux users here, but there are not enough Linux gamers to change this reality.The PC ports where Radeon cards perform better are the crappy ones (mostly JP).
>>102541426>RTX 2060 SuperHuh, I didn't know that card existed at all, practically equivalent to a 5700XT perf wise with 8gb VRAM and all.Nvidia should have just released that as the base 2060.
>>102543009It's been explained to me several times before but I still can't really believe it, why aren't games biased to AMD's hardware considering their architecture is the foundation of all non-Nintendo consoles of which every major PC title is a dumbed-down port thereof. How can Nvidia have an advantage at all when the larger gaming ecosystem is stacked against them?
>>102543155>Nvidia should have just released that as the base 2060.That's too consumer-friendly.If there's no serious competition, NVIDIA tests how much they can get away with the initial launches of each product tier.The halo tier is a bit of an exception, but the -90 series cards are a relatively new branding and they'll probably raise the price for the RTX 5090.The RTX 20-series Super cards were segmented to overtake RDNA1 cards.>AMD is finally giving the mid-segment some competition with its 7 nm PCIe Gen 4 Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" series with the company claiming competitive performance leads over the high-volume GeForce RTX 2060 and RTX 2070. >NVIDIA decided to upscale the two SKUs at their price points with new models.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super/We got 40-series Super cards thanks to the $499 7800XT.
>>102542835nta but that's the exact card i had
Is the Arctic p12 audible at all at low rpm? Trying to decide between getting p12s and just setting the rpm to low or shelling out the money for Noctua, it's especially hard considering a 5 pack of p12s cost the same as 1 Noctua fan
Every single day, I am grateful that I am running Nvidia and not an AMD
>>102536104>1080p: RTX 3060 12 GBWhy would you recommend a card that struggles to reach 1080p 60fps on the latest games?
>>102543222I think the Radeon SVP is talking about having difficulty getting Radeon features like the latest FSR or AntiLag implemented into PC ports.Because the Radeon performance bias is visible on most ported games.Devs have limited time & resources, and most of them will prioritize making their cross-platform titles run on the Series S or PS5 @ 30/60 FPS.The quality of the PC ports also depends on the resources and engineering culture of the game-developing company.There are studios like id Software that take pride in programming their games to run well on every system, including the Switch.Customer pushback can get crap ports like Starfield to receive Intel & NVIDIA hardware performance patches too.Elden Ring is an anomaly in the pic, my guess is there's some legacy PS3 rendering code in FromSoftware's engine causing performance bottlenecks.
>>102543345I just bought a 5 pack anon. I poor fag so I boughted arctic.
>>102543345Your current case came with 0 preinstalled fans?There are variations in the range of P12 humming due to manufacturing tolerances.P12's been through multiple revisions, the most annoying sounds should've been dampened by now.I'd probably settle with a 5-pack P12, the revised P12 Max with fluid dynamic bearing, or the Scythe Wonder Tornado 3-pack.The only Noctua case fan I'd buy is the most expensive one (NF-A12x25), the other ones have been superseded by competing fans like Silent Wing 4 (120 & 140mm).
>>102543345Also, it comes without rgbt, so that's a plus.
>>102543223>njudea being greedyfucking figures, I'll be keeping the 2060 super on my radar for any friends that want nvidia features, it's a nice niche assuming the used prices aren't retarded.Really hoping Intel's next gen comes out swinging for everyone's sake.
>>102540204Well tested the Dell 1080. I'll be keeping the PNY blower. It OC's better and runs cooler, despite pulling 15-20 watts more. However, my dumb drunken ass also snagged a Strix 1080, picrel. Should arrive tomorrow. Curious how it will compare.
Retardeon is dogshit
>>102543618ya'll niggas should stop seething about rgbt you can just turn that shit off once and never see it again you know and if you feel like turning it on you click a few buttons and enjoy the lightsposted from my rgbtless windowless pc btw
>>102543222Even if games were biased toward Radeon, DLSS would make up any difference and more>>102543223>We got 40-series Super cards thanks to the $499 7800XT.Eh, Nvidia competes with itself. It uses Super refreshes to stimulate sales. Maybe the 7800 XT helped>>102543512>the most commonly used engine>represented in almost nogaemsUnreal would like a word. To me, Unreal games are the truest representation of the performance potential of the cards.>the Radeon SVP is talking about having difficulty getting Radeon features like the latest FSR or AntiLag implementedThis is very unfortunate. Especially if RTG can get get decent ML upsampling going with FSR4, users need to push hard for FSR4 and AntiLag2 integration with all games. If ultrawide users can be supported, Radeon users can be supported.
the pajeet never sleeps lmao
>>102543488frfr the only 1080p GPU that exists is the 4090 no cap
>>102543917>capIt's kapp
>>102543911Retardeon is for pajeets
>>102543956>bloody benchod bloodyok mr jeet
>>102544032you said it not me
>>1025440691 paisa has been deposited to your accout
>>102544079I don't even know what that is mahrahnjanit
>>102544085sure you do sanjeet poojeetchopra
>>102544093>DO NOT REDEEM THE NVIDIA SAARwhatever you say arshdeep
>>102544109i see your supervisor got back to you. it will soon be your cowdung lunch break you did well saar
>>102542915You know what? I completely agree with you. My set goal is the 7900XTX if the prices are good, otherwise I might just settle with a 7800XT. The reasoning to of going with a 7900XTX if I can get a good deal is that I'm likely not getting a new GPU any time soon - and I'd like a solution that will last a little longer..But if the prices by the end of the year still garbage as they are I'm likely settling with the 7800XT or other better option for price/performance.
>>102543488>latest gameswhat fucking latest gaymes there are that are worth playing bro please tell me I'd love to hear
Any RAM brands to avoid or are they mostly the same?
>>102544205If you're just running a standard XMP then no. If you want to manually OC then you should avoid models with poor heatspreader mounting eg. G-Skill Flare X.
>G2724Dthis is pretty much the cheapest decent display you can get, right?i ran over the budget on the desktop and i'm looking to save a few bucks on things
>>102544159Black Myth Wukong for one.
>1080p (FHD)>Frame rate: 60 fps (with Frame Generation enabled)
What’s the used market like in Taiwan? Planning to head to Guanghua Digital Plaza and Syntrend in Taipei on a weekend to grab some components and hoping to build a decent gaming PC for less than 15,000 NTD/500 USD. Anyone else know where I can look for used components in Taiwan?
>>102544295>only gayme he managed to name is a mid souls clonenot a good look for nerds who are gaslighting people into buying expensive tech for no reason
>>102544367I really doubt there's enough people on pcbg to answer that question
>decide to hold off on new build with 7800x3d last black friday> tell myself zen 5 and rtx 50 series is just around the bend>zen 5
>>102543582fucking lmao
>man my desktop is really loud but it has a turbo-shitty cooler>buy a new cooler that shouldn't struggle keeping cpu cool while being quiet>desktop still loudmaybe I'm going deaf but I genuinely can't tell which fans are making that noise under load
>>102543763What if I buy B650M HDV which cannot control rgbt shit? I don't want it to flash rainbow shit.
>>102544602Noctua fans time?
>>102544602psu most likely
>>102544602Also are the fan bearings going bad?
>>102544639>assrockbuy something else I guess
>>102544602gpu fans
>gayming with uncapped frames in SOME or even just in one menu or hangar view>hear some weird resonance-like noise>turn on vsync>it goes away
>>102544810it's called coil whineuse mangohud to cap your frames, vsync is gay
i'm considering buying WD SN850X 1tb SSD for operating system into my laptop (acer a515 51g). that's without heatsink ofc.is there a chance of it ever getting dangerously hot with normal usage? is it a thing to be worried about?
7800X3D or wait for 9800X3D?
>>102544874if it gets too hot it will just get slower. it's not dangerous>>1025448757700 non X
another day, another 7800X3D price hike
>>102544894meanwhile zen5 has a discount already
Is CPU VRM whine normal on very high end motherboards? The sound is really annoying for a minute or two after boot then it goes away (something warming up I guess).
12-core CCDs when?
>>102544963When quad channel memory becomes mainstream.
>>102544989We already have quad channel ddr5
>Samsung TV LS43CG700NLXZX 43" Odyssey Neo G7 G70NC this good? it's on sale,but it has some mixed reviews
>>102544963Zen 6
>>102544677Buildzoid bought it and he likes it. Its not a bad board. I wish it came with 4 slots.
>>102544677assrock is the safe choice for b650/x670
>don't play games>don't render>don't coompile>crippling urge to upgradeHow do I treat this?
>>102545145post current specs
>>1025451602700X, 1070Ti, 16Gb memory. Only use the browser and some ancient VBA programs.
>>102545170what about the case, storage, psu, cooler?
>>102545178All of those are recent. Lancool 216, 860 EVO (long story but my M.2 slots are fried so I just use SATA), Montech Century, Peerless Assassin 120SE. Want my serial numbers too, mister glowing man?
5700x3d: enough for 1440p? I’m fine with 60 fps as long as it doesn’t have frequent low 1%’s
>>102544367Would I be better off asking on /trv/?
>>102545145Get a real hobby seriously
>>102545202>long story but my M.2 slots are friedyou just gave the perfect excuse to upgrade the platform.
>>102545271not just the platform but also the main storage, also gives you an excuse to put all that crap into the old case with the old psu any any old crappy gpu you might have floating around to get rid of the lot in one fell swoop.
>>102545271Why, though? I didn't notice anything when I fried the NVMe and "downgraded" to SATA. I'm not paying for performance I don't need, that's the whole point.
>>102545216the higher resolution you go, the easier it is on cpu. If it can do 1080p it can do 1440p.Resolution is GPU bound, it's why they have to push resolution to effectively test GPUs since otherwise they'd be CPU bottlenecked at 1080ptldr yesq
>>102545145DONT ASK QUESTIONSJUST CONSUME PRODUCT
>>102545294NTA, just woke up, but I definitely notice the difference between my NV2 NVMe ssd & my 860 evo SATA ssd.Obviously while gaming & such, you don't notice much, but for transfers?
>>102536104I have a dumb question, pls no bully.If I were to use a locknut to secure a standoff to the motherboard tray and the nut rests against the side panel, that shouldn't create any issues, right?
>>102545406What do you even transfer? My drives are 95% empty.
>>102545436I'm not sure exactly what you're describing but if you're worried about something electrically, no, the ground is all the same
>>102545451I store a lot of movies, games, pictures, shows, etc.My drives are almost always 90% stuffed
>>102544677>he doesn't know
>>102545457>I'm not sure exactly what you're describingEssentially I need to install a motherboard standoff in a place where there is no corresponding threaded hole in the motherboard tray. Drilling/tapping a new threaded hole isn't a viable option due to the location. So most likely i'm going to just drill a hole and use a locknut to secure the standoff.
>>102544875i thought 7800X 3D were out of stock
Planning a <2000$ build, wanna go for a gpu 4070ti super/cpu amd7600 combo, does it sound good/unbalanced/overkill ?gaming pc (1440p +), sticking no nvidia for gpu, no preference for cpu
is it worth it to upgrade from a rtx 4070 to a 4070 Ti super?
>>102545658no
>>102545665so wait for 5 series?
>>102545676Wait 6. The upcoming cards are almost guaranteed to be a meme
$2000 gputo play one fake AI frame, barely 60fps at 4klul
>>102545658>>102545676both are scam cardson linux nvidia is trash too and windows is 20-25% slower
>>102541426silk engine is modified phyreengine aka the engine sony used for demon souls. ps3 ran on nvidia while 360/wii ran radeon so no shit its optimized for nvidia.
>>102543834Unreal Engine is Nvidia engine
>>102543009>>102543222On Linux AMD is like 20-25% faster than Nvidia running Windows and Nvidia running Linux is a bigger joke in 2024.
Why did anyone buy a 4070 here?
>>102545937barely 60fps on 66% upscalingPerformance wise Unreal Engine are dogshit, why people shill this engine so much ?
Brehs, any non rgbt looking RAM? Crucial basic is available with 6000 MT/s. But Buildzoid hates crucial for ddr5, so what RAM am I looking at? Cheaper the better too. I want 24GBx2 ram kit.
What should I buy if I want to play stuff near maxed at 60 fps at 1440 for a while? Wait for 5080?
>>1025461224070TiS. 50 series is a skip
>>102546132>50 series is a skipWhy?
>>102545964Nobody cares how games run, only that they look good.
>>102546152Nvidia has no reason to upgrade midrange and 5090 will cost 2k.
>>102546298Okay but 40 series is still bad value? 4070 Ti Super is really not worth 850-900 euroSo should I wait for 60 series then?
>>102546330>4070 Ti Super is really not worth 850-900 euroIt's the 16GB breakpoint so you can wait for a 7070 Super
normal fans are 2 pinspwm are 3 pinsrgbt are 4 pinsright?
>>102546356no
Qube 500 is so pretty. It arrived today.
>>102546391what then
>>102546397RGB has its own connector. Standard fans are 3 pin, pwm are 4pin. 2pin fans are either propriety bullshit or 20+ years old.
>>102546356non-pwm fans are typically 3 pins, one for the tachometer signal
>>102543222Because AMD's dev support has long been subpar on PC. Nvidia has invested a lot in helping developers implement Nvidia-specific optimizations and features in their games for mostly free while AMD left them in the dark, treating the consumer GPU market as a side gig. AMD's trying to be better but there's a loooong way to go so they have to take compromises like making their features also work on non-AMD hardware.
>>102546087Learn how to use PCpartpicker and it will pick the cheapest for you.
>>102546456>AMD does the same shit as Nvidia and helps Bethesda with implementing FSR on Starfield.>its a scandalAMD cannot win.
>>102546520Should've picked a better game.
>>102546431>>102546431ありがとうございました
>>102546520AMD creates open standards that anyone can use, be it Nvidia, Intel, Qualcomm, Xianling Longfuk
>>102546520AMD bad and don't you EVER fucking forget it!
>>102546520when a modder is able to implement dlss in the game before the multi billion dollar game developer, you can blame either incompetency or malice
>>102546625yes Bethesda are incompetent
Glad Vulkan doing well, fuck pajeetsoft
Is there any better feeling than freshly installed Windows (once all the drivers are installed)?
>>102546711>windowsenjoy bloat, i guess
>>102546711Id presume sodomy is more plesurable than using windows.
>>102546625Name 1 thing in a Bethesda game which a modder hasn't done better.
>>102546711After you remove all the bloat, reg tweak. it feel better
>>102546816>sodomy is more plesurableyeah we're aware all troonix users are faggots
>>102536104I'm planning to build a new PC. Should I go with Windows 11 or should I stick to Windows 10?
>>102547203Windows 11 doesn't have any advantages over windows 10
>4k+ super computer>thinking it cant handle 1% of total usage as bloatmental illness
>>102546794>>102546816>troonix lusers in the PC gaming build threadget out there are no 15 year old stinkpads or Dell Optiplexes here.
>>102547442I'm the stinkpad user. Stinkpad to 7900x. I'm going to run vms with 28 gigs of RAM. Shits going to be so cash.
>>102545216More than enough for almost all games. There will be outliers, usually some sort of grand strategy games where they are heavily CPU bound.
>want to get a decent monitor and a SATA SSD>too poor to get something actually decentWhat do I do? I want 32 inches too..
>>102547569Get 27". 32" is too big.
>>102547442I use Win10 IoT LTSC for gaymin.I use Linux for daily shit.
>>102547593That's what they all say, but I can tell you. You can feel the difference between 27" and 32".
>>102547667You can feel the difference. You will get neck pain with 32".
How well will this run Monster Hunter Wilds?
>>102546711post 5min run of latencymon
>>102547593Maybe you are right. I come from an Asus VC23 or something. Maybe 27 is enough for desk use. Even for immersive games.
>>102547707Pretty good. I use something similar and I can run it fine in 1440p mid-high settings. Around 120FPS.
>>102547707Twin tower air cooler? Deepcool AK620/AG620? In CM range, you have Hyper 620S.
Thoughts on this for video editing?
Day 538 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>102547833>faecal design reddit north pederast white editionew
>>102547715>i measured latency with my PC idleretard
>>102547833Baller ass pc. Nice.
>>102547833overkill but more is better
>>102547715post your average latencies and show config, this doesn't really tell anythingbest I could personally get is like 0.8 something dpc latency average on a 5800x3d but my windows install is cursed (install is from 2017 and I swapped cpu twice already)
>>102547855his pc already stutter while idle, cant be me
>>102547833>>102547859>>102547861Not enough VRAM for video editing.Unless you meant shitty tiktoks and YouTube video essays. Which don't count.
>>102547872>his pc already stuttergood morning saar
>>102547873What GPU would you recommend?
>>102536104I've been out of the PC building market for about 15 years now, but I'm finally being forced to upgrade.Where do I even start when it comes to comparing value and stability for parts? I'm looking to buy on a budget (ideally 1k or less for the whole shebang) but I want to avoid attractively-priced shitcan parts that will be worthless in a year. The market has changed so much since I last had to care about any of this that it's completely bewildering.
>>102547910a non consoomer GPU.Get yourself a Quadro 6000 or something.
>>102547707If you're in the US, spend just a bit more (+$10~20) for a better card model that will run cooler & quieter.ASUS Dual is the better dual-fan card, but I'd spend the extra $20 for the Gaming X Slim.>>102547738He's talking about the new MH game that will release in '25, the one with an obscene system recommendation (4060 for 1080p medium 60 fps with frame gen. on)
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW THREAD
>>102547953>He's talking about the new MH game that will release in '25Oh, oops. I read that as MH Worlds.
>>102547960make one
>>102548019im too shy
reminder that I am still baking
Brehs, review my pick. I'm thinking about getting a Asrock Pro RS instead of HDV. For RAM, GSkill flare x5, instead of whatever this is. But Adata is CL30 and Gskill is CL40. IDK which ones to choose. Other than memory, ssd and motherboard, I've boughted everthing.
>>102547864same cpu 5800x3d
New:>>102548081>>102548081>>102548081>>102548081>>102548081
>>102548082I said I was baking you brown scumbag
>>102547953Thanks anon!
>>102547935>Where do I even start when it comes to comparing valuePCPartPicker>I'm looking to buy on a budget (ideally 1k or less for the whole shebang)Then you're probably looking at an AM4 build, something like below.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ftKCdYou can buy a better CPU for under $200 on Alibaba (5700X3D, about $180).There are savings you can make on the board & SSD.The 4060 is a placeholder, but there isn't that great of a card option for the $300~400 price range.I'd also consider getting a budget CPU cooler if you're sensitive to noise.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/khJp99/thermalright-assassin-spirit-120-evo-dark-704-cfm-cpu-cooler-as120-evo-dark-d6-deThis one if you're getting 5700X3D.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3
>>102547679Bro fuck outta here with the 32 display, its a TV size, 27 is the limit. Even my 23.5 1080p is huege, I sometimes think of getting second monitor for goon shit but thats like more than half your desk is just monitors
>>102547935Here's a $1030 build (pre-taxes) with a good RTX 4070 model, the card's discounted for a limited time.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPdr28https://us-store.msi.com/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GPU/RTX-4070/GeForce-RTX-4070-GAMING-SLIM-12GYou have to use a cheaper board with no WiFi and a 1TB storage drive, but the sacrifice is probably worth it if you're planning to play newer games.PSU is a bit overkill, but the cheaper ones I'd consider are still over $70.
Tell me about iiyama. Is it time to accept it to the kino group (Asus, Dell, Samsung, MSI)?Do they have the experience now of making good screens?
>>102547707Get a 80+ Gold PSU.
>>102548339I'm running 2 27" monitors and its the perfect size. IDK if I can go back to 24".
>>102548455Its all made in the same factory though.
>>10254847524" 16:10 is the master race, same height as 27" 16:9
>come from an ASUS VC239H 23" 59hz office tier monitor>want to get into 2K, fast, over 100hz master race>this catches my attention Should I do it? Will the difference be mind-blowing?
>>102547935>>102547935>Where do I even start when it comes to comparing value [...] for parts?https://bestvaluegpu.com/#comparison-tableThis was linked by someone a while back & it seems pretty reliable from what I've seen.Obviously this is just for a first impression, still check around afterwards for prices on specific models & such
>>102545145get a better hobby, like cameras or drones
>>102548065your screenshot doesn't mean much without telling us the trace duration
>>102545757you say this as if you actually know what you're on about
>>102545658>>102545676this upgrade wouldn't make sense even if new cards weren't just around the cornerconsidering that they are, it makes even less sense
>>102546711I guarantee the guys in that photo feel better at the end of the day than you ever have after spending a day on the computer
>>102548475I have a 40in 1080p TV collecting dust I'm tempted to mount on the wall over my desk just because.>>102548515Based. My main is a 24in 16x9, secondary monitor is a 22in 16x10.
>>102549799Try it out before mounting, 1080p on 40" will look like crap for text. The pixels will be the size of small lego blocks.